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Atomos Shinobi 7 | Good for Outdoor Adventure Filming?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2024
- The Atomos Shinobi 7 is a pretty awesome piece of gear. Being a 2200nits monitor makes it really easy to see outside and the large 7" screen is a dream to film with. In this video, we talk about if this monitor is a good fit for outdoor adventure filmmaking.
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Great observations about both Shinobi models and the Ninja V. My 5" Shinobi is one of my favourite pieces of kit. I also have the 7" Ninja Inferno and Ninja V+, but the little Shinobi is so light and quiet, I reach for it first unless I need external recording.
Thanks for watching. Yeah that Shinobi 5 is such a solid unit. Can't deny that I love the size of the 7" screen though!
Thanks for this video and the extra help Scott. 🙌
Cheers Kevin, thanks for watching. Happy to help!
Thanks for the knowledge Scott!
Thanks for checking it out dude!
My Shinobi 7 came this afternoon, I can't wait to test it out around Scotland, also great video dude I appreciated the tip about dropping the fan on the low setting! (edit) just realised we have the same set up with the C70!
Nice, curious to hear what you think. The fan is really the only downside for me. The bigger screen is a great setup from the Shinobi 5, that's for sure. Thanks for watching!
Hi Chris, total amateur question here but what happens to the C70 tech screen autofocus when you have an external monitor like the Shinobi 7? Can you still us it? I have a run and gun setup and really need the touch focus
Thanks for watching. You can still use the camera screen as well as well its touch features when you have an HDMI monitor plugged in.
@@regnismada4936 For sure Scott beat me to it, it works well together and considering the size of the monitor the focus peaking is great in the field for run and gun situations so pairing those together makes it very convenient for nailing fast focus!
Useful video, I was looking to upgrade my Ninja V to this monitor. Cheers.
Glad it was helpful, thanks for giving it a watch.
I'm considering the Shinobi 7. Have the OSEE T7, but it can't handle the DR when shooting in CLOG2 and using a LUT to correct, the highlights wash out on the monitor way before the actual footage does. I don't think Atomos or SMALLHD has that issue.
I have the Osee T7 as well. Overall it is an ok monitor but I have had similar experiences with accurate representation of color and DR on it. I definitely trust Atomos products for better representation of color and you just can't beat a nice touchscreen IMO. Thanks for checking out the vid!
Thanks for the video! What monitor mount do you use?
Cheers, thanks for watching. It's a smallrig NATO evf mount
Great detailed review.
Cheers, thank you for watching!
I'm having a heck of a time nailing focus with my LUT7 on my GH5 and E2M4. I am considering the Shinobi 5" or Osee 7". Out of those 2 which has the best (most accurate and easy to see) focus peaking? And which of those 2 do you use now?
Hey Mike, I'm a big fan of the built in focus peaking on the GH5. Hard to say which is better between the Osee and the Shinobi but I like the ease of use of the Shinobi over the Osee monitor. Touchscreen wins every time for me. I use my Shinobi 5" 99% of the time and only bring out the Osee 7" when I need a secondary camera angle I want to monitor from a monitor. Thanks for watching.
Great video Scott 👍🏻 I have the FX6 and I need such an external monitor, but I am not sure to buy the 5 or 7? With the shinobi 7 I could use sdi with my FX6 😉 what do you think 🤔 audio is not a problem for me 🎥 best cinematic greetings from germany
Thanks for watching. Both are great monitors. If I didn't care about the audio I would probably go with the 7, unless I needed a really small setup to fit in my pack. With my backpack, I can fit the 5 or 7 attached to my camera so would definitely prefer more real estate. You'll also want to consider the extra battery usage of the 7 due to the fans and larger sized screen.
Hey man! I had a question for you, I saw your other video that you did about the Shinobi 5, and I was curious if you could explain more on how you were monitoring your footage with it? when shooting cLog2, Are you using the built in Rec.709 c70 LUT and sending that into the shinobi? Or are you sending straight LOG to the shinobi and then using a Rec.709 LUT onboard the shinobi itself? I feel like I am not using the shinobi correctly, and I cant seem to find much information in regards to monitoring the footage of the C70 -> Shinobi. I have been sending the pre-corrected footage directly into the shinobi, and I think I have the settings on the shinobi correct? But I am also noticing some color and gama shifts happening when i look at the footage on the shinobi vs the c70's screen.
Hey, thanks for watching. I am sending a signal directly from the C70 to the Shinobi with the view assist LUT from the camera. The annoying thing is this means that during playback the monitor is just showing a log image. I've loaded the Canon Clog2>Rec709 LUT onto the Shinobi but I find the color representation isn't as accurate as I'd like so have opted to not use it. I think it has something to do with the legalized color range and a mismatch between the C70 and the Shinobi. I know the Ninja V allows you to adjust this setting but I haven't been able to test it.
Thanks for the video! Regarding the fan noise: do you experience the same problem of fan noise with the Shinobi 5? I am also running sound on my rig in very quiet environments :)
Thanks for watching. The Shinobi 5 doesn't have a fan inside so problem solved!
@@ScottBell Perfect! Thanks!
Bro, what hdmi cable are you using? I ordered some 90 degree hdmi from alvins but when i plug into the camera the cable points down, instead of up
Can I throw LUTs over the HDMI out preview like you can in the Ninja V without them being backed in the footage?
Yes you can do this on the Shinobi itself.
Hi, i would like to ask a question.. at a time 1:44 you are talking about convertion (for example HDMI in and SDI out) on Shinobi 7.. do you think that this convertion might work on the Shinobi 5 (version with SDI), too? Thank you so much for answer.
Thanks for watching. At one point in time Atomos was selling an SDI Shinobi that I believe was capable of this but I have not tried it. I don't think they are producing it anymore though. You'd have to reach out to them. Good luck!
Thanks for the vid! Great info! Quick question for you. With the sound issue you mentioned, do you feel the fan sound would still be audible when shooting a sit down interview where you have a sound guy who is boom poling the interview? And you're not using a mic that's directly on the camera?
Cheers, thanks for watching. I think you'd probably be fine so long as you are at least 6 ft from the mic. It's mostly an issue with on-camera shotgun mics.
Hello. Good video. I am using shinobi 5. How u can displayed grid on the shinobi? Cause i cannot.
Thanks for watching. This is being sent across from my camera not on the Shinobi itself.
Great video thanks ! How do you get shutter, iris, ISO and record status on the shinobi 7 ? I have connect my a7s3 but i couldn't display any settings.
Thanks for watching, glad you liked the video. I'm not 100% how to do that on a Sony camera as I've never shot with one but I'm sure there is a menu setting to get your information sent over HDMI.
ive just bought shinobi 7,and i know the body is abs and the fan give some vibration to the plastic body. sometime on some movement and position, there is some ratling sound in the body , its minimal ratling but loud and sometime constan and its very annoying. does someone occur same problem?
Sounds like you have a damaged unit.
Yeah the fan noise its a mega turn off/purchase killer for me, i am shooting allot of hand held and run and gun and in the studio i have a graveyard silence, I am picking up my pc fan noise from 3m away with my senheiser 416, imagine having the atomos right next to it. I have the Atomos 5" and i dont have this issue, so sad that they didnt think about this case on Atomos 7. Thanks for pointing this issue out, i think i will go with the Lut 7 Pro from freeworld, i dont know any other worthy 7" monitor after Atomos and the cheap Freeworld.
Yeah it's a bit annoying if you are in a really quiet environment. Looking back, I'd still like to have this monitor around for wireless feed and pulling focus, but the Shinobi 5 is still my go to on camera monitor.
@@ScottBell i just wasted another 2 hours on researching and i found the SmallHD 702 touch, the image that monitor pulls out is amazing, still it seems that it have just 1500nits brightness, do you know if its enough for daylight shooting ? or if this monitor have an internal fan ?
@@SanKraNsWorkshop I haven't used the 702 Touch but I have used the SmallHD Cine7 and it was SO NICE. It's 1800 nits. I'd really like it to become my next monitor, just a hefty pricetag. They are very similar, Cine7 is just a hair brighter, lemo for power, and has control for Red and other higher end cameras.
No fan on the Cine7, not sure about the Touch702.
I have the monitor can’t figure out how to shoot in portrait mode for videos
I'm not sure what your question is.
Great video, I'm looking to pick up an external monitor soon. I am debating between the Ninja V and the Shinobi 5. Which would you recommend for me?
Hey dude, Thanks for watching. I'd got with the Shinobi 5, unless you really need a Prores workflow the Ninja V is more gear than you need for monitoring. I also love that the Shinobi doesn't have a fan so still works great with on camera microphones.
@@ScottBell thanks, great advice!
@@RyandeMilliano You can try mine out sometime if you'd like.
Great informative video, I too often record ambient sounds so this confirms what I have read here and there, thank you. AT 5:01 of your video, what is that battery pack in the back (Canon battery), I do not see it in your list. Cheers from Montreal, Canada!
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@@ScottBell Got that, yes, but what is that plastic casing? It’s not a V-tap is it?
@@sorinski I'm not sure what you are referring to. Feel free to drop me a line on IG with a picture and I'm happy to help. @scottbellvisuals
@@ScottBell Will do shortly, cheers!!!
Is there a reason the x4 punch in is greyed out? I cant see any option to select it i also have a novice question the monitor looks very different from the LCD im also using the c70 but it looks much more washed out with noticeably less contrast and when the exposure looks fine on the LCD it seems much too bright on the monitor is that normal or is there a way to make it look identical to the LCD?
4x zoom only works when the camera is outputting a 1080p signal. With 4k output you get access to 1:1 and 2x zoom. I haven't noticed my Shinobi looking particularly washed out. I do find that when I use the Canon provided conversion LUT to go from Clog2 to Rec709 it slightly more contrasty than when I use the built in View Assist LUT that can be sent over the HDMI cable. I'm not sure if you are referring to a unit you own or how it looks in this video. If it's this video that is probably just do to the brightness of the monitoring causing it to be slightly overexposed in my footage. Hope that helps!
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Can I use shinobi 7 4k for game capture device , shinobi 7 is using ssd card or sd card ?
Thanks for watching. No you cannot. It isn't a recorder, only a viewing monitor.
Can you use it in vertical for portrait mode
I didn't test this and no longer have the monitor but I would assume this is possible.
Does it come with the hdmi cords?
I don't believe it does.
Does Atomos Shinobi have talli light?
Thanks for watching. I do no believe there is a tally light.
HEY COULD YOU TELL US WHAT MOUNT DID YOU USE??? I OWN SHINOBI 7 AND AM HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH MOUNTS.?
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@@ScottBell that's exactly what I was looking for thank you my guy!
There is a SDI version of the SHINOBI V too
While you can still purchase this, I believe it has been discontinued and you have to use the AtomX SDI module to get SDI with the monitor down the line.
@@ScottBell actually this product is not discontinued and still available on 3G-SDI version. I just bought this monitor on its SDI version a weeK ago on B&H. The AtomX external module isn’t really need it for this monitor at all if you’re looking to buy a monitor that comes with both options(SDI-HDMI) This is not the case of the NINJA-5 that only comes with HDMI port and this is one of the a few differences in between the two brothers.
I understand it's still available but have been told it won't be produced in the future. Not trying to argue about it....
@@ScottBell neither do I want to argue, I just making a comment on this amazing video. I really like what you do. I am also subscribing 👊🏽😉
Cheers mate!
I cannot for the life of me find an hdmi male right angle to hdmi male left angle for the c70
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How's the battery life?
Thanks for watching. I didn't do a proper test of battery while I had the unit but without a doubt, a larger screen and fan is going to consume batteries pretty quickly if you are comparing it to a Shinobi 5. On the Shinobi 5 I can get through a day with 2-4 NPF 750 batteries pretty easily.
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Thanks for watching
What mount are you using
For what part of the setup?
@@ScottBell I have the gimbal wanted to use it vertical
@@ScottBell even for photography it is no way to use it vertical
@@viewfindermedia3188 Ah, sorry, can't really help you with that. I don't shoot vertical for video. I just crop in on 4k footage if I need vertical video.
@@ScottBell that’s what I’ve been usually doing. For pictures it would be nice vertical