TMS for the third time, before and after. Still love it.
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TMS time again! This video isn't as dramatic as my first video (link below). I was starting to get depressed again, so I decided to nip it in the bud. Today, I feel great!
Link to my book, Idiots and Robots. The book is not about TMS. It's fiction about zombies, robots, cults, and dumb people.
www.amazon.com/dp/1736442619/...
Trigger warning: the story "a satisfied customer" depicts a dude having a serious mental breakdown. You can skip this story and the book will still make sense.
My first and most dramatic TMS before and after video: • TMS Before and After
Sorry my video quality isn't amazing. I want to support others who are going through depression, but don't have time to figure out how to make it *fancy*.
Your vulnerability, advocacy for mental health, and just overall being totally authentic is so very inspiring and empowering. I hope you are well and still in remission.
Thank you! I’m doing very well on depression, but developed sleep apnea. Will probably make a before and after for that. I’m exhausted but hoping cpap treatment will help. Hope you are well!
@@HookerTheWriter Hi Kristin. Hope you're doing better now. Can I ask if the sleep apnea was triggered by the TMS treatment?
@@colinfidgeon242 no, the apnea came on much later
im soo happy for you!!.. Instead fighting war with other people.. we as mankind need to focus fighting depression!
I’m so glad you’re feeling better, great videos. Thank you for sharing.
So glad it worked for you,. I can see a tremendous difference between before your first treatment and now!!
Nice video. I'm so glad this is helpful for you. I have a consultation scheduled and am hoping for some good results. It feels like I've tried everything over the years
Thanks so much for chronicling your experiences with this. With the stigma against old school ECT it is a bit worrisome thinking about a doctor shooting things into your brain. But seeing how you opened up over the 3 videos, even from one video to another it was a notable change. The end of this video is like a totally different person than the person in the first week of the first video!
If you haven't. You should try rewatching those videos and this one to see the contrast and how far you've come! It's given me a lot of hope and it made me so happy seeing someone change as much as you did for the better!
I' I'm so happy to hear that. Congratulations, and stay well
I am so doing this, thank you so very much for sharing, I’ve had depression most of my life but is getting really bad now
That's where I was in 2018. Hang in there! I hope TMS works out for you.
Thank you for sharing your journey. I hope you’re well!
the difference between ur face of the first ever video and this are 180 thats wild, thanks for sharing! congrats too, ur first video reminded me of myself now
I hope you're on your way to recovery.
Thanks for this videos! I'm a psychologist at Mexico working with a psychiatrist learning how to use TMS, you made me feel very excited.
Your community will be lucky to have TMS available! Cool!
Thank you for sharing I am going through your exact symptoms that you started with. I was taking 10mg celexa and the hospital said I had breakthrough anxiety and depression. Went through 2 months severe anxiety and panic attacks. Panic attacks have stopped but still depressed and severe anxiety. It helps knowing I am not alone.
Sending you warmth! There are so many treatments to try. It's discouraging when one doesn't work, but I hope you keep trying things. I know it can feel like you're never going to feel good again, but it's not true.
All the best !! So happy for you ... Take care :)
Thank you for your honest review - good luck!!
Happy to see you ♥️
I'm so glad this is working for you!
Thanks for updates 🤗
Thank you for sharing your experience. Today was my first treatment. I too am receiving the depression and anxiety protocol. I'm remaining positive. I was only mapped with the finger responses, but it's a great question for me to ask tomorrow. Happy to hear you're feeling better. Absolutely an inspiration!
A quick follow up from me - after 49 treatments. The biggest lesson I’ve learned is that while I strongly feel TMS therapy is effective, it’s not going to fix your life. Specifically, waking up in the morning is absolutely less of a chore, or what felt like a punishment, before treatment. Personal hygiene was difficult for me as well, because each shower felt like an impossible and energy draining task. And now it’s not. It’s critical not to diminish the importance of just these activities. The desire to wake up, make your bed, brush your teeth and take a shower. And for someone who works from home, as I do, it’s easier to spiral into an abyss.
But the treatment changed that. First and foremost, I did have to wake up and shower and leave the house to get to my appointments! But over the period of 3 month, the kindness of the office staff, and specifically my treater (the person in the room who ensures the machine says calibrated and tolerated by the patient) brought me back into the world. While my treater wasn’t a therapist, they were friendly, willing to share recipes, and some days, they simply listened.
But as I mentioned earlier, treatments don’t fix everything. During the depths and grasps of depression on your life, often messes have been left in its wake. Relationships broken, finances in disarray. The “fog” lifts, and your eyes are wide open to how much of “everything” needs to be fixed. That’s where I’m at right now. Overwhelmed.
Would I recommend TMS? Absolutely. If your insurance will approve it and you can commit the time, it’s an avenue anyone with long term depression should pursue. Advocate for yourself and don’t leave any stone unturned!
You look amazing and sound amazing!
Thank you for sharing!
thank you for sharing this, it really helps a lot.
Depression is a chronic illness that never really truly goes away.... You just treat it for the rest of your life. The tricky part of depression is that it can also be a symptom of another disease or caused by a lack of nutrients like vitamin D, or a hormonal imbalance. Thank you for your feedback, I'm probably going to be giving the treatment a try since I've t/f so many other therapies for this.
This isn’t always the case. For some they have temporary depressive episodes that only last for several months.
@@martinlutherkingjr.5582 Bullshit. Jung fell into a deep depression and did his best book during and after that time. Don't talk shit you know nothing about.
Thx for your TMS "diary", I´m ahead of 20 sessions, it´s the first time in my life. I´m suffering from depression since my childhood, and my way of treating it (unconsciously) with canabis in my youth, I started working, fighting, etc. at the age of 21. I´m 48 years old now, did four therapies, tried a bunch of antidepressants (venlafaxin, amitritylin, etc.), augmentation with lithium. This spring I did a series of 11 ECT-Sessions, very exhausting and the seeting wasn´t as protective as I may have needed.
I also extended my sports acitivity, and, like you say in your other video: running is great! My body is really gettin happy before I run. 🙂
I am hopeful, that the rTMS-treatment will support me in my motivation to get a better, more productive and happier life.
Hope that you are doing well!!! And thanky you again for sharing your thoughts and experiences through the rTMS-treatment and about your way to manage depression and anxiety...
I’m doing fairly well, thank you. I’m moderately depressed and about to undergo treatment with spravato and will report back in December. Good luck!
@@HookerTheWriter I didn´t start the last series, but I´m ahead of a study at an university hospital. They use theta bursts and i also upgraded my "running" and sports game by far.
And if it doesn´t work the same doctor is offering the ketamine therapy (which helped you, as I just saw GREAT!) and also VNS /Vagus Nerve Stimulation). But I am so happy, that my experience with intense sports acitvities (I also do a daily workout for about 20 min and join a karate dojo 2-3 times a week) gave me back a feeling to control my strenght and mental fitness-level. In my opinion it is so important, especially for people who are thinking (in a good way) so much, the body is definitely needed as a supplementary oppoonent... All the best, thx again for letting the world know about your "journey".
So happy for you
I think it's so great you finished your book! Huge milestone for your journey.
Thanks for this video.
I should add that TMS CHANGED MY LIFE. After the 1st cycle. I have had three. That is after trying everything else. Of course.
Many Thanks!
I've been struggling so hard if this is my savior Holy heck man
I hope you can try it! It definitely saved me, but remember that if it somehow doesn't work out for you, there's more things to try. Don't give up!
Thanks for sharing
Hi Kristin, thanks for sharing your TMS experience. I’m currently trying to figure out which might be better to try (TMS, ECT, Ketamine) & was wondering if you had tried either of the other two therapies? Anti-depressants, mood stabilizers & 15 years of talk therapy haven’t worked. I’ve been so depressed & physically tired that I’ve become a shut in at age 35. I haven’t been able to work for 5 1/2 years now. There are days when the only reason I keep going & don’t fully give up on living is for my husband & my mom. I couldn’t bare to hurt them that much. If TMS or one of the other therapies could actually help me enjoy living again I’d be beyond grateful. Thanks again for sharing.
I have not tried ECT or Ketamine. ECT would be my last resort because it has some undesirable side effects. Ketamine sounds amazing to me, but back when I was first getting TMS, Spravato didn't exist yet, I don't think. The only option for ketamine was infusions that cost a thousand bucks! So anyway, TMS is my first choice because there are no side effects. I hope you're able to pursue one of these soon. Hang in there! I know it's hard.
That's good information about the head measuring. I've been measure by thumb and toes and it's really subjective.
I've been doing freezing cold showers twice a day. Up to 5 minutes each. About 2 weeks in now. Supposed to be a mild ECT like therapy. The mornings are interesting. I wake up with no pain and the summer heat is way more bearable. Anxiety I'd say is way down but I'm still having obsessive thoughts connected with depression so anxiety may not be entirely under control.
I'm in the same boat as you - desperate to be excited about things again. I noticed your "excitement" here and I feel that. Just so lost.
Figured I'd leave this comment in case you need something new to try. I don't know. Hope you can get this under control.
Thank you! That interesting. Since I made this video, I was feeling pretty good but still some lingering obsessive thoughts and I quit drinking alcohol and that made a HUGE difference for me. Cold showers sound harsh 🥶☺️
@R D Insurance pays for it. I paid about $10 per session. I'm absolutely privileged in that I had the time and money to pursue this treatment.
How are cold showers anything resembling ECT? Are there any clinical trials to support this finding?
I have noticed that when you feel really better in all of your videos you tend NOT to hesitate between what you think and what you say. You say it quicker, more confidently and right away. It seems when you are depressed and you say something, you then sort of question yourself in your head as soon as you say it. Almost like you second guessing yourself the moment you say it.
My mind gets very foggy when I'm depressed, so that makes total sense.
@@HookerTheWriter you sure it’s not a self confidence issue? I am thinking improve your self confidence, don’t hesitate to say whatever is on your mind and maybe that will also help keep you sharp and alert
Awesome, continuous feedback
I’ve started for a couple wks now, for me it works, I plan on doing several treatments aswell
@R D contacting the right people and meeting the requirements that are asked of insurance to provide care
Speaking with a Dr. where I went we agreed that insurance care coverage operates on a unique wavelength
Insurance and medical coverage are two different Currencies
Thank you so much for sharing. I just had my consultation today. Can you detail what the results are like once completing treatment? What type of improvement can be expected? Thank you
For me in particular, I had greater clarity and focus, fewer intrusive thoughts, better mood, better motivation, and more energy.
@@HookerTheWriter thank you for your response. I’m looking forward to seeing if TMS can help me beat depression and anxiety
I got remapped and I am feeling sooo much better after an extension from the six weeks. Thank you for sharing! TmS is worth doing again for these results. I think the game changer is getting mapped correctly and not allowing them to tell you it will help afterwards. If you aren't feeling better after 3 to 4 weeks advocated for a remapping. I will do it again
Hi Kristin. I just watched this video after watching the first two. My 26 yr old son will start TMS soon for anxiety and OCD over ruminating thoughts, he also has autism (high functioning). It was interesting to see that you also had treatment for anxiety, not just depression and that it worked! Insurance will not cover it for OCD, and the charge for 36 treatments is over 12K! They said about $250 to $350 per treatment without insurance. He may get a discount for being a cash patient. I wonder what the place you go to charges per treatment. We are in Southern California where everything costs more. BUT I'm wondering if it's worth the cost if it wears off and one needs to keep doing it.
I don't know how I got so lucky, but insurance was covering my depression protocol and my Dr. offered to throw the anxiety protocol in for free! I'm up in Portland. If it were going to cost 12k, I never would have been able to do it. My best advice is this: HE HAS DEPRESSION and when he takes the PHQ-9 he's going to be very liberal with how high he rates his depression. Insurance puts a lot of stock in the patient's PHQ-9 being high at the beginning of treatment and low at the end. I'm not saying you should commit insurance fraud, but maybe he's more depressed than he originally thought?
Let us know how it’s working please. Are you a believer ?
My sons same but will go in for anxiety and depression and hopefully that also works on obtrusive thoughts ?
@@seerguru6896 If your insurance covers it then do it. The treatment for OCD is different from the treatment for depression. Talk to the place that will do it and ask which treatment would be best. My son has had 21 treatments so far for OCD only. It seems to be working somewhat. He's been better over the weekends, not having meltdowns like he would before. Weekends are always his worst time for behavior, (he has a job Mon - Fri) Honestly I feel like this is a VERY EXPENSIVE experiment. It might help for a while but the effects wear off as Kristen said and then you need to do it again. If the insurance covers it that's another thing but if you have to pay out of pocket like we do I don't feel like it's worth it. My son will have a new insurance company in the new year and I will try what Kristen suggested about him being depressed, as he kind of is anyway. And have him go thru the depression protocol just to see how that works for him. If that fails, our next "experiment" will be to do ECT, which is what my son REALLY wants. He OCD's about that being the solution to his problems. But he can't change the fact that he has mild autism. He works with a therapist for the OCD but he does not do the work required, he just wants to be angry over things he ruminates on. I wanted to try the TMS in the meantime just to appease him. I don't want him to do ECT, which works great for depression. he does not have debilitating depression. I'm afraid of the long term brain effects, but we may have to try that. He may need to go back to medication, right now he's on Lamictal a mood stabilizer which really isn't doing much. He has been off Prozac for 3 years. We were hoping to avoid another SSRI.
TMS is the only thing that has really worked for my depression. I'm doing my 2nd round of TMS after feeling good for about 6 months. I wish there was a TMS helmet or something that you could do your treatments at home.
I KNOW, I wish, but I don't think it'd be possible to get the positioning correct. I did TMS three times and I just updated with a video about Spravato. I was telling the practitioner that I wish I could do spravato at home and she said that (here in Oregon at least) you can get esketamine from a naturopath to use at home. Going into the office for it isn't bad, though. Anyway, so glad TMS worked!
I've seriously considered getting this treatment. I've seen a few people say it doesn't work for them,but for the majority it seems to really work. I'd rather do this than ECT,which seems to have a lot more negative reviews. I hope you're still doing well?
I'm doing very well! This past winter I did Spravato instead of TMS and it also worked well for me. I would probably choose spravato over TMS if I relapse again simply because it requires less demand on my time, but spravato can be riskier for younger people. I'm 40.
@@HookerTheWriter That great to hear! I'm glad you're doing well! I was looking at a few treatments,but I never knew about spravato, Another option to check out. Thank you!
If only it wasn't $7k. (Without insurance) Thanks for sharing. It's good to know this can work.
Insurance can cover it- but I know some people don't have insurance or the co-pays can add up. I wish everyone could get it!
I've had chronic depression for most of my life. My baseline is a general melancholy that never goes away and I range from that to severe, debilitating depression/suicidal ideation depending on life events and sometimes no reason at all.
But anyway, over the past 2 years I've tried 4 anti-depressants to no avail. I just found out that TMS may be covered by insurance so I'm majorly looking into it. I would give anything just to feel "ok" most of the time and be able to pursue life goals or even accomplish basic daily tasks to maintain a decent life for myself.
I’m so sorry you’ve been suffering! I hope you have an opportunity to try TMS. You could also look into Spravato.
i heard about it and got excited that maybe this is something that can help me since i have major depression although i've never taken medication for it i assume i would be resistant to the medication. i also have a personal bias from seeing so many people take medication for it and not get better and get worse from side effects that make their life more difficult. also tms just seems scary. at first it sounded really good and painless but after a little bit of research i'm finding people who's depression and anxiety got worse after trying tms. i'm trying to get therapy but the process of insurance approval is long and idk if it will cover the costs completely. if it doesn't then i won't be able to afford it. i don't think therapy will work for me either though so i don't want to fall for magical thinking and go oh ketamine or this can save me which is what i was thinking before but ketamine therapy doesn't work for everyone either so maybe its just an endurance game and i just have to keep enduring until some newer technologies come out or the current ones get better. there is a pill for my disease that's at 51% or 52% so i'm hoping that later down the line it will be around 80% and i would happily take that medication to keep my disease in remission. hard to find true relief, but maybe i just have to hold out and wait for these kinds of things to become more trustworthy and or reliable
Heard there may have to be maintenance. One last said she did maintenance monthly
Did you ever try doing ice baths? The Wim Hoff method?
No, never tried. I went to a spa once that included a freezing cold plunge and I couldn’t bear to go in!
I need to try TMS. The mind is stronger than we can ever imagine. We have all this power that we rarely ever tap into. I want to tap into it. Thanks for inspiring me to do so.
I'm so glad you found TMS! Best of luck!
@@HookerTheWriter Will you be making any new videos on the subject of depression? Also, what is your opinion of the mind/body connection when it comes to depression?
@@davidr.4916 I don't have any ideas for videos on depression right now, but I am writing a book- sort of a memoir about my depression. I don't have any strong opinions about the mind/body connection. It exists. The way our brains work and the way our thoughts flow in concert with our bodies blows my mind. I can't comprehend it!
@@HookerTheWriter When you finish your memoir, send me a link so I can purchase the book.
@@davidr.4916 I'll definitely make a new video to talk about the book, but if I remember I'll post a link here too.
What version of TMS did you do for the anxiety treatment? (rTMS dTMS, iTBS, etc?) and where did they place it on your head? I am curious to know which version only requires 8 minutes for the anxiety protocol. The place I am currently at we are doing the 3 minute TBS depression one, but not getting a response from. The anxiety protocol is 27 minutes here.
I did rtms, depression on the left side, anxiety on the right side. I’ve never done theta burst. I’m sorry you’re not getting a response. Maybe they could re-measure your head to make sure they’re hitting the right spot?
Hello! Could you explain what you mean by "getting mapped"? I'm also going through iTBS and I wanted to make the most of it!
Getting mapped is when they make measurements on your head, estimate a precise place on your head, then they send a "pulse" with the TMS machine to that spot. If they have found the right spot, your thumb twitches because that location on your brain is connected to your thumb. From there, they adjust the placement for TMS treatment. It's like, after they find the thumb twitch spot, they move a certain number of centimeters from there to find the depression spot. I'm not sure if I explained that well, but I did my best!
@@HookerTheWriter Thanks you so much!!! I don't remember them doing it in my case. So far for me it has helped immensely on the cognitive side, but not so much on the "motivational and emotional" one let's say :\ despite this starting TMS has been one of the best decisions I've taken in life so far!
Thanks for the information. How are you doing now?
I'm quite well! Normal, I'd say. Happy.
@@HookerTheWriter Congratulations! It'd be nice another video !
Hi Kristen, I started to get the non insurance covered OCD treatment where they purposely provoke an obsessive compulsive "attack" as
TMS is used. Then covid happened. I'm trying
to explore that again. Do you have experience with OCD
protocol. Your video is inspiring.
I’ve never heard of this treatment. I’ve had issues with OCD in the form of repetitive unwanted thoughts. I used to get EMDR and during those sessions I would think of my unwanted thoughts and the EMDR would move those thoughts from my short term memory to my long term memory (or something like that). It worked well at the time. I hope you’re able to get back to TMS soon! It also helped me with OCD
I so much want to go for this treatment but here in South Africa is very expensive
I'm sorry :( Do you have access to Ketamine therapy?
How did you select your TMS provider? What were the criteria? And if you are willing to share who did you use?
I selected my TMS provider because the Psychiatrist I was already seeing offered it, so I just stuck with her. I'd rather not say where. In my city, there's probably about three options (last I checked). I'm not sure what my criteria would be if I was searching for a new place. I'm lucky though. Most places don't even have options.
I've just started a theta burst protocol. Have you tried that?
No, i don't really know anything about it. Is it working for you?
@@HookerTheWriter on day 3. I'm going self pay because insurance doesn't cover it yet. I definitely feel a shift already. I've been battling depression and anxiety for 20yrs and have had little to no effect from drugs and therapy. But after 3days of TMS there is a lessening of the dark cloud. We'll see if it continues....
@@bsnowden Excited for you!
Is this a therapy that's recommended to continue receiving over the years? Or does it just depend on the person?
Yes, as far as I know, you can go back for more treatment over and over if it works for you. My problem in the past has been that antidepressants "poop out" on me and it's harder and harder to find an antidepressant that works. TMS, tho, keeps working great. At least so far.
I have lots of Nausea and lightheaded quite a bit,I can move my head because of tension
I've never heard of this. I hope it's still worthwhile to you!
🙏🏻
My TMS doctor says I’m being treated for depression and anxiety but they only do the left part of my Head. I feel like I am missing out on some other protocols that I really need. I also want whatever protocol there is for addiction and I don’t know if I’m getting that and I’m not really getting any straight answers from my doctors or the technician
Perhaps in your doctor's mind they're thinking if your depression is lessened it will also help with the anxiety, but you're right- the anxiety protocol is on the right side of the head. I'm sorry it's been a struggle! I've never heard of TMS being used for addiction, so I'm not sure if there's really a protocol for that.
TMS I've looked into this but I can't afford it and don't have insurance. Where do you have it done?
If you look up one of the machines (like neurostar or brainsway) the site likely has a tool to find treatment facilities. That's how I found the clinic I went to. Without insurance, though, it's probably unaffordable. Perhaps you could look into esketamine nasal spray? I'm not sure how much that costs without insurance either, but it requires fewer sessions.
@HookerTheWriter Ok thank you. My doctor isn't a fan of esketamine so I've not tried that. But I'm glad you're getting better.
Hello, im about to undergo treatment for the first time. Should I expect that the results would mostly be temporary?
For me, it was temporary but lasted longer every time. I felt great after the first time, but my first relapse came in less than a year and I got another round of treatments. My second relapse came after more than a year and I got treatment again. My most recent relapse was more like two years. For some people, it's permanent, though.
@@HookerTheWriter Thanks so much!
I've just been switched to a new protocol that targets anxiety on the right side and i noticed an immediate calming effect too. Indeed it is really nice. However my treatment for that side only lasts for 40 seconds; i wonder if i would see better results if it lasted for 8 minutes like yours..
Hows it going?
@@HookerTheWriter TMS didn't help me at all :( I am now trying Ketamine infusions. I had my first one 2 days ago and i have seen some positive changes already!
@@theliamexperiments306 Sorry about the TMS, but so happy for you about the ketamine! I hope ketamine becomes more widely available and affordable. It sounds really hopeful.
could this work for myofascial pain? i have chronic pain on tje left side of the neck and head with a muscle contracture of the scapulae
I've never heard about TMS being used for pain, but I suppose it's possible. I just don't know, sorry.
4:19 How did you get 46 sessions the first time? Did insurance cover that? I’m reading online if you don’t have a 50% reduction in PHQ-9 by session 30 then insurance won’t cover anymore TMS ever again!
Yes, insurance covered it. I'm not precisely sure what my exact phq9 numbers were at session 30, but it was probably about half. My doctor didn't mention anything about a necessary reduction rate. This was in 2018, though. Maybe things have changed and maybe some insurance companies are tougher than others. My insurance company is not-for-profit, so maybe they're more generous.
I am 51 years male .my paralysis is 4 years old .i am bed no cure many medicine i use this rtms cure my paralysis please told me
Have you heard about SAINT treatment ?
I haven't until you mentioned it just now. Fascinating!
what state are you in I'm waiting for a call back I'm in Iowa
Oregon
Hello Kristin, may i ask what was reason for your depression. Please disregard this question if it is too personal.
Honestly, there was no reason in particular. I have stresses like anyone else, but there was no situation in my life dire enough to warrant the way I felt. I think it's just a bodily malfunction.
From most people I've talked to who have undergone TMS, it did not work for them at all. I also doubt it would work for me and I can't even try it in the first place. No availability and I can't afford it.
Been depressed for 13 years, (major depression for 4 years) been in therapy 4 years, didn't do anything. Tried several meds, didn't do anything. Actually getting worse every day. Really feel like there is no hope. Even if I try TMS, it's most likely not going to work and then I'm really out of options.
I'm so sorry this is happening to you. It sounds like you're working really hard. I know, when you're depressed and people start giving you advice it always feels like they don't really understand; so I don't want to do that. I just want to say that I hope you won't give up. Pursuing treatment takes a lot of energy and you should be proud of yourself for doing it.
@@HookerTheWriter Yeah advice doesn't accomplish anyhing. I've already tried every stupid "fix" people suggest but these morons don't have any idea what actual severe depression is and all they do is suggest is useless basic stuff like it's the new gospel despite everyone and their mother having already tried those mundane methods.
"Find something you enjoy"... literally unfeasible when you have anhedonia. Like it's getting ridiculous. Worst of all I live in Finland, which is praised world wide for its healthcare and it's complete sh*t to be honest, the therapists and doctors have no idea what the hell they're doing, cancelling sessions, being late to every session, repeating the same nonsense talking about their own life, making stupid suggestions like "let's just go grab coffee", worst of all never giving me enough appointments and then having the audacity to tell me how they're here to help me, but no, those devilspawn therapists are there to only help their own wallets.
First they pressure me to use medication when I already said a magic pill won't work and explained how I'm very anti-medication, then I use the meds and vola no effect and it takes them half a f***ing year to renew my recipe or up my dosage and then they refuse to give me nrw meds altogether when I request it.
What a society we truly live in.
Hey,
Look into seeing an FMD Dr they can find the root cause for you depression. With root testing.
@@iAlwaysSpeakTheTruth I already know what the root cause is myself and it cannot be treated.
@@dazeen9591 what is the root cause?
Hi. i’m wondering how you are doing with your depression and anxiety. Thank you.
Very good! It's been a couple of years since I had TMS and I'm just cruising. Still on anti-depressants, but that's ok. If I need them, I need them. I feel good!
I hope it works. I’m on week 6 out of 8. Still don’t know if it’s doing anything.
I hope for you too! It's definitely gradual.
How much does the treatment cost ?
With insurance, my co-pay was $10 per session, so in the end I spent a few hundred dollars. Without insurance, I'm not sure.
After how many sessions u got result
I did 8 weeks of sessions and I think about 7 weeks was probably a turning point. It was very gradual and not a straight line- I still wavered up and down as I got better. But 7 or 8 weeks is when I really noticed.
I'm currently doing the 36 week treatment process right now for the first time using Brainsway machine.
@Moataz Ahmed I'm not sure because I'm in a bad living situation right now. Sometimes still have depression and anxiety.
How are things going now?
@@HookerTheWriter Hi. Was looking for a way to private msg you? Going thru some personal things. I'm not as depressed but I am anxious. How about yourself?
@@jay86270 You can DM me on instagram @hookerthewriter
I was injured by TMS. Permanent ear ringing. 4 years now.
I believe you, I don't trust it. Oscillating electromagnetic waves create electricity at the locations that the waves lapse. It's the same thing as ECT, meaning the providers are disingenuous at best, and brain damaging people at worst.
does it work for ocd? I have ocd
I think it works a bit- not as reliably as for depression and anxiety, then again, depression and anxiety can worsen OCD, so if you lessen anxiety, the OCD can also get better. I think that's how it was for me. I was having obsessive thoughts that got better with TMS. It's worth doing a consultation to learn more, I bet.
@@HookerTheWriter you are very pretty
Can we get an update video from you please Kristin :)
Sure. I'll have to think of something worth saying, tho!
@@HookerTheWriter Awesome. Just how you're doing these days I guess. Are the effects lasting, are you on any medication still etc. I am not seeing great results from TMS in terms of mood improvement and am thinking about starting medication.
Also Kristin, have you ever been diagnosed with OCD? I see a lot of myself in you and your initial symptoms. The daydreaming, the intrusive thoughts, the inability to read/learn etc. I have no cleanliness rituals etc but I think i have a weird form of OCD called Pure O.
@@theliamexperiments306 My doctor said I had OCD symptoms. I don't know if that's an official diagnosis or not, but it kind of seems like it. Before TMS, My brain felt like it was packed with cotton balls. Like, extremely active inside, but my perception of the world around me was hazy. I think lexapro also helped with these symptoms too. You know what really helped, was olanzapine, but it made me ravenously hungry all the time.
@@HookerTheWriter That's really interesting. Are you still on any of these meds? I think an SSRI would help me but I don't want the side effects. It's hard to know what to do. That being said I think I am starting to see delayed benefits from the TMS.
You’re gorgeous. I hope you don’t hate hearing that. Have you heard of a treatment called Stellate ganglion block? I’m trying to save up for it right now, I think this is for me.
I've never heard of that. I'll look it up for sure!
How are you now?
Generally great. Right this minute I’m struggling with withdrawal symptoms as I quit lexapro, but I’ll push through.
Do it works for ocd and agoraphobia?
From what I understand, it works for anxiety which, if treated, could ease ocd and agoraphobia. That was my experience. I was having OCD symptoms and because TMS treated my depression and anxiety, the OCD went away as well.
@@HookerTheWriter were u on some medication before tms ?or u tapered it off after tms ?
I was on medication and remained on it. Once I started feeling better, I didn’t want to rock the boat! TMS can be done on its own or as a compliment to pharmaceuticals.
@HookerTheWriter can u share your email I need some info
Only about ⅓ of patients respond when the 5cm rule is used. These days, patients should not be going to a doctor who is still locating the DLPFC by simply measuring 5cm from the motor cortex, the beam f3 protocol for measurement is far more accurate. It's borderline malpractice to rely on the 5cm rule.
I thought its permenant not temporary i think many tms would give sizure? Also session so expensive I heard of risk guidelines ?
TMS doesn't cause seizures. Session are expensive, but in the united states, it might be covered by health insurance. My health insurance covered it.
@@HookerTheWriter really doesnt cause? because i have a history when i was child but get cured by medication from epilpsy i made a mri and my brain is excellent can i start it???
@@taejuk6155 Oh I see. You should call a TMS provider and ask about that. I'm not sure if epilepsy affects it.
@@HookerTheWriter i hope so
How much does this cost?
In the US, insurance can cover it if they know you've already tried meds. For me, I did a co-pay of $10 per session. I don't really know the cost without insurance.
@@HookerTheWriter Thank's for sharing your experiences Kristian. Your a brave person and I wish you the best. I'm looking into TMS cause none of the meds I tried worked. Hopefully my insurance will comply.
Starting my third time this Friday. The first time lasted 2 yrs and the second time lasted almost 3 years.
Thats so encouraging to hear! Thank you for sharing.
@R D in New Jersey. It’s true for me. Everyone has their own results 🤷🏻♀️
@R D no on all those and my insurance paid for the TMS treatments.
Hi Kristin. I have started rtms. 8 sessions down. My depression is worsening . Any thoughts?
When I did my first series of TMS, my depression got suddenly worse in the middle of it too. I think that's not uncommon. Keep at it! Hopefully you'll feel better soon.
U look good
just learn how to pray correctly and pray the depression away guys.
prayer actually works!
I already tried prayer. I even went to see special people who miraculously healed a brain tumor. I prayed with every ounce of faith I had. But what if God blessed the hands of the people who created this therapy? Maybe this therapy IS the answer to my prayers. I have no idea what the answer is, but maybe.
that is true also. God may have blessed the hands of these therapists.
I was just saying because I prayed my schzophrenia away and I don’t have it anymore.
but I prayed for 8 hours everyday for a week.
I’m gonna start taking 4,000 milligrams of vitamin d in addition to praying.
I guess what works for one person may not work for the next.
anyway, God bless you sweetheart and I love you.
people love you.
@@jeneshamill.zoeyrayshow2458 I'm happy for you
Local place wants 30 times on 45 days
How are you feeling now?
I felt great until the end of 2023, then I relapsed and instead of more TMS, I got Spravato because it's less time consuming. The Spravato worked! I feel great. :)
@@HookerTheWriter I'm happy you found relief!
Who covers this in the land of the bills?
Thine insurance shall covereth if thoust already partook of medicinals and said medicinals failed to set fire to thine soul. Plus I had to pay a ten dollar co-pay. It's the responsibility of the psychiatrist to make a case to your insurance company, so the first step is getting a consultation with a TMS place.
I will start with my treatment soon, hopefully it would work for me, but I would definitely love to date Kristin... ♥😜
Did it help you navneet
You almost look like a different person.
If your depression continues to be persistent perhaps consider Deep Brain Stimulation under the new protocol by UC San Fran. It’s invasive but the stimulation is constant.
If I had to, I totally would. Good to know the option is there!
Why dont you take ACT therapy.
I don’t know what that is, but I’ll look it up!
Well it is CBT based therapy, more on thoughts and values. I have been exam preparing for the last months and I went through every bad feeling that was repressed for the whole year. Then I found a book called "Get out of your mind and into your life" which is written by steven hays. I really benefited from the book, but its wordiness made it a bit hard to read, now i am reading another book by the same author called "A Liberated Mind: How to Pivot Toward What Matter", the book is way better. To be honest ACT changed my life, even tho it is a slow progress for me. That's why i hope you try it, i think you can do it along with TMS.
Check out a company called BrainsWay. Far superior tech in the Neuroscience realm and 60% more effective than the single or 8 coil units.
Hang in there though! I'm with you on this 100%
I can i ask i am depress 2018, but 2021 its came back and it so drowing :(((
I struggle with recurrent depression too. This might sound like a bummer but I’ve stopped hoping for it to be gone forever, that way I’m always prepared for it to come back. Hang in there and keep seeking treatment.
All you need to do is change your diet. Nearly everyone who gets depressed is also low on essential vitamins and minerals, especially magnesium.
Being vegan is also a very quick way to get depressed and stay depressed. Plants need the right nutrients, and so do humans.
Plenty of meat, fish, fruit and vegs + 300 mg magnesium glycinate/day will do the trick. Good luck !
Not hardly. Most doctors check that before starting treatment.
If it were that simple though….
@@MetalCoreMagget There's many elements you can't just check via a blood test in a reliable way. Magnesium is notoriously difficult to check because you can only find what is being transported at the very moment the test is done, but that tells you nothing about the amount that is stored, and it tells you nothing about the distribution of magnesium throughout your body. It also doesn't tell you anything about the quality of your nerves, neurons etc. which are essential for stress resistance, signalling paths inside your brain and for your overall health & wellbeing. Depression is one of many symptoms that result from nerve damage. Depression is essentially a neurological disease and therefore very treatable. With the right nutrients damaged nerves can usually heal themselves to a very large extent unless they have been cut.
If you don't have a psychosis, personality disorder or similar, if you have always lead a normal life and then suddenly hit the wall, that means your depression is perfectly treatable in a matter of 4-5 months. And yes, it's as simple as that.
√you are so pretti!
I am 51 years male .my paralysis is 4 years old .i am bed no cure many medicine i use this rtms cure my paralysis please told me
I hope you’re feeling better! 😊