TFL Exclusive: The VW ID. Buzz Is the ULTIMATE American EV & I'm the FIRST to Drive It in the US!
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This is the definition of a "lifestyle vehicle". I like it. I'd actually buy one. I love the "play" and "pause" symbols on the throttle and brake pedals. Glass weighs more than sheet metal. Probably why there's no big sunroof. Weight reduces range and right now, range is THE selling point of any new EV.
Now this is where EVs today are going to shine... Mall cruisers and family haulers, school and sports runners, perfect for that segment
I worked for an arm of VW for 25 years. VW has almost always had a cup holder issue. Decades ago when I asked an engineer why the lack of cup holders their response was the job of the driver is to drive and not be distracted by things that do not aid in driving. It's a very VW thing. Good first driving impression video and keeping the impromptu older gentleman interview was great.
It's called stubborn and it's why they've never captured any significant market share here since the demise of the Beetle.
Lol, that sounds like such a German mindset.
This is marketing brilliance on the part of TFL! Two of the coolest and most talented guys in their 20's absolutely let loose on a first drive review of one of the coolest new vehicles that is right in their demographic! Kase and Alex did a great job and whosever idea it was to send them for this review was really great. All these reviews with Tommy, Brendan, Kase, Alex, young professionals who are utterly passionate about vehicles and their jobs, it really shows. This is the future of TFL!
They definitely spent a significant amount of the time cautiously minimizing the flaws though.
@@brittgayle467 You're always this much fun, aren't you? It's supposed to be a fun drive video; not a stem to stern analysis by IIHS.
@@Mr21scottLighten up Mr21scott. It’s just an observation of a fact. Those of us that are excited about this bus want to know the good and the unvarnished bad.
$70k for a 20 year old’s car? Hope you’ve got one hell of a job;)
@@MD-ev3hm - Where did you get $70k from?
Nice review, you just forgot to mention that you were driving the Euro spec ID Buzz. I believe the US spec car will have the same interior but be a little longer and have a third seat. The US spec will probably have more cup holders. European's don't value cup holders like we do.
I was thinking about that. The range and speed of the US model will be pretty dire if they don’t upgrade the battery and motor
You can also tell with the CCS 2 charge port.
Most practical and attractive form factor. Not too convinced yet on vw for electric hardware and software. U.S. model will be longer with less mileage.
European here, and I don't get the cup holder obsession. Its true.
What does this video tell us? Two young guys are excited about a mini van. This doesn’t happen too often. VW did it right. And I want to see more car videos with Kase and Alex together. Great entertaining review.
This is a really cool vehicle. I hope VW brings this 5 passenger version to North America. You see the nostalgia that people have for this vehicle. It caters to both old and young. This feels like a slam dunk for VW.
I heard it’s coming to us June 2024!
I believe this is the US version, it'll hit in 2025.
The ID Buzz is an amazingly practical car. I can see myself daily driving the short wheel base, I love the look of it... but as a father + more family I feel more inclined to the one with the long wheel base with capacity for 8 eight. Hope we get to have both variants in the states. Also it will be very beneficial for the consumer that VW is putting pressure on other OEMs in the mini vans segment. Great job guys! TFL channels are always the go-to source for good content.
I think we're only getting the long?
Been waiting for this thing to be available in the US for years - but the price is a big slap in the face. 🙈 ($72k entry level price - probably more for the longer US version)
I hope VW is ready for the demand of this Buzz. I can’t wait to drive one. My wife will not drive a minivan. But even she is interested in this. Great first Drive review guys!
This is how a car review should be done. Every vehicle has a personality and emphasizing that really makes a difference in the case of the VW Buzz. Fine review, and yes, i love this vehicle.
Great review Kase and Alex! It was enjoyable seeing your excitement and enjoyment with this new Buzz. This vehicle has a huge cool factor. It is filled with character, yet offers even more practicality than the endless sea of boring crossovers.
i cant wait to see these on the road here. a camper version is the dream.
The fun you both had really shows! :) What a nice vehicle. I just hope that the short wheelbase you guys tried would make it to North America, instead of the long wheelbase VW is promising us.
The boys are anxious to try the Buzz huh.. ? Someone did ship few there but European versions of ID-Buzz because on US market the official model will come latter this year, will be longer, with 7 seats, bigger battery pack and more powerful electric motors and will have the features they are looking for.. just have a little patience boys !
Don't hold your breath on the shorter wheelbase they tested here being brought to the USA. VW has proven over and over that they are clueless when it comes to marketing in the USA.
i would bet the USA version will have more cup holders and such, my understanding is we are getting only the 3 row version and as such, the interior will be slightly different/revised.
Could end up with one of these in our garage one day.
A solar roof could be pretty cool on this.
Yes, having solar panels leaking low level electromagnetic energy above your head/brain whenever you're behind the wheel is a brilliant idea 💡
As somebody who lives in a state with weather, I am wondering how it handles on wet/snowy roads, what kind of heating it has (heat pump, rear heated seats, heated steering wheel, etc.), and how much the efficiency goes down with temperature. What's the battery chemistry?
After almost 20 years of ownership, I can count on one hand (with digits left over) the number of times I've actually needed to roll down the rear windows in my Toyota Sienna, so that's no loss if I'm being honest. The rear cupholder will only hold tapered containers, so that absolutely needs to change for our market. The flat-folding rear seat mechanism is freaking brilliant. I don't know which regulations need to change, but WE NEED that tuck-away trailer hitch in the US! Great video.
Good job guys! I like the tag-team effort on this.
Nice job on the video guys! I think you hit the sweet spots of that ID Buzz. I think I'd wait for some future special editions with better performance, but it is very cool to see an official VW nod to the old Type 2 buses. Roman, please give us some more Alex/Case team videos! These guys are good!
The Original Type 11 Van had less than a 100hp. I remember riding with my grandmother in hers and it was a white-knuckle experience merging onto the freeway...
Excellent review guys!! You hit most of the finer points and struggles for the American market. Bang on about the cup holders. 4 cup holders within easy reach of the driver for todays coffee and yesterdays coffee. Todays water and yesterdays water. Add a functional 3rd row of seating that still folds flat with rear roll down windows, HVAC and USB’s. That could make it a real contender in the minivan segment as well. Lots of appeal here.
They should call this the VW Blueballs because they’ve been teasing this for over a decade.
When we start to see a US version of this van, I agree about the rear seat armrest and the lack of cup holders.
We use our van for long drives > 1.5hrs regularly, and those things are must haves. My entire family wants one of these though, the form factor is right on for our needs.
I should mention we currently drive an odyssey and this is a great EV replacement
Nice job and wow so envious that you got to drive such a cool vehicle. I hope we get some of different configurations other than the long wheelbase version. Only time will tell.
Love this. Great job guys. When the new Beetle came out in the late 90's we rented one in Vancouver and drove it up to Whistler. We talked to everyone on the way. It was a blast. I'd love to have one of these.
Great review, this is def on the top of my list for my first EV purchase. Really liking the design and the tech on the inside is pretty neat.
For the US spec, they'll have to improve the cup holder situation.
that was fun. we're considering selling the mach e to get one of these. Gonna need to be all wheel drive and handle well in the snow though.
I would definitely consider getting this here in "the states." Like the big storage area in the back and decent back seats for kids/family, hopefully VW will bring that cargo-version here (not just the three-seat-row version)...
It's hard to tell with VW, but it would make sense to offer both the two and three row versions. Personally I would want the two row like they sell in Europe.
A pop-top would be cool
And that centre console that you can remove - maybe an after market fridge would fit in there.
Land rover calls the little side top windows "Alpine windows"
If I were to get the ID Buzz, I'd love to turn it into the Mystery Machine!
Thanks guys. Very informative and fun video under the bright Cali sun very much matching the id buzz.
Y’all did a Great job on the review.I thing VW is going to have a homerun on its hands. I think ever vehicle should have four cup holders up front so when the kids in the back give you their cup back you will have a place to put them. Thanks Alex and Case and VW!
Great job guys hope to see more of Case and Alex together.
Great job on the video all! Thanks for making it.
I used to drive home from LAX on PCH for a change of pace from the 405/101. Looks like you picked up the bus in Oxnard :). You should have seen all of the diesel Audi's and VW's covered in dust in that parking lot after the emissions scandal.
Great video. Curious about the charging: did it have CCS2 or CCS1? Is there a CCS2 to CCS1 adaptor?
Such a cool minivan. A minivan with style and space. VW needs to bring all versions of it including the short one you drove and the commercial van and then build them in Chattanooga or Mexico. The long version they say they are bringing will price out way too high for a lot of buyers so the short one and panel van could increase the market for them.
The short version starts at $72k in Europe (base version, VW charges an arm and a leg for every little add-on).
Even for us in Europe (UK) the lack of cup holders in VW vans is often criticised. There is a booming business in add on holders.
It reminds me of an enlarged scion XB
No, it doesn't look like a Ford Flex (do you remember those?).
As a kid in the 70’s we camped in the pop top bus. I’d love to have a camper Buzz….every campground has a 30 and 50 amp outlet. 👍🏻
Alex, I too 🙋♂️ am a Volkswagen fan boy, nothing wrong with that. You two did an absolutely incredible job on this review, it's very retro looking but modernized, well done Volkswagen. Hopefully VW offers a 7 passenger configuration that would be cool.
I hear they are working on a Westy pop top camper version. A 21 window version would be cool too. Here's my thoughts:
1. I wish the C-pillar "vents" were functional. Route them into the cabin and close them off with manual or power shutters as needed. More ventilation is never a bad thing.
2. I could see the grill lighting on the concept becoming a dealer or aftermarket option.
3. Having a barn door option on at least the passenger side rear would be cool, but it probably wouldn't sit well with soccer moms. Falcon wing rear doors would be cool too.
3. Split hatch with a tailgate. Not only would it be a subtle nod to the original bus which had the engine cover open in an upside down tailgate motion, but how are you supposed to throw tailgate a party if you don't have a tailgate to sit on??
4. Jump seat option that can be easily swapped with the console. Of course, this depends on safety and space constraints.
5. Rear windows need to roll down. Also, 3rd row windows in other vans pop out for a vent function. I'd still prefer my #1, but if not, then these 3rd windows should serve that function. It just helps air move efficiently through the cabin.
6. Are the seats a nod to the famed "blue jeans" option??
7. An easter egg depiction of the original bus would've been cool to see.
Great 👍job guy's 👏👍. I think if they incorporated some of the Routan rear features: rear windows that rolldown, a multitude of proper size cup holders, bench or captain chairs, under seat cubbies and privacy shades. This would be a hit.
The charge ports in the doors initially sounded good, but what happens if you're in the back seat and plugged in, and the side door is opened? Charge cord dragged away, and cell phone pulled out of your hands and thrown outside onto the parking lot? Maybe charge ports in the center console or back of he front seats would be better...
This is so cool! This is an awesome road-trip vehicle - so comfortable and feature-rich
Good job guys! You work well together.
With all of those cubbies you could purchase some rubber cup holder inserts separately.
Yup. I really don’t need the insane 4 second 0-60 times. Get me where I need to go at reasonable speeds with reasonable comfort.
Totally can tell you guys enjoyed the sun in Cali! Wow, Alex got a haircut! Great vlog guys, cheers Kirk
Weird seeing different faces on this channel, but a great video still! You can tell it has a different flavor and is shot differently, and thats great! Mixes things up nicely. They both did a great job on this.
They've been with the crew for years.
@@DatDogDude literally have never seen them on camera before. Interesting!
@@JosephHerzog They mostly review motorbikes, but also have done a lot of TFLEV reviews
Good Job Alex& Case giving the TFL Team some young blood besides Tommy😊👍
Great video and love this van just hope the cheap sounding plastic doesnt get loud (also center console) on bumps through the years or maybe months.
Nice review! Really epic when the older man comes up and literally goes back-in-time to when he had one as a high schooler.
A lot of nice touches and a couple of drawbacks. The Germans have never embraced cup holders and continue their reluctance to do so in their vehicles. Big Gulps are an issue and makes us who we are(thirsty and large mid sections). Love the suggestion of a panoramic moonroof and the row of skylights. It was on the original prototypes. If it's a matter of cost I's say this isn't going to be a bargain when it does come to market so why not just have them at the beginning. Love that 2 tone paint scheme. Case & Alex take a bow for a well executed review. Sure puts the Tesla designers in a bind. "Is that the new one? Nah, it's obviously new alloys this year."
I never owned one of the old air-cooled VW micro-busses, but I would give this a serious look. A couple of things that would make this vehicle even more amazing than it already is:
1. If the rear seats can be easily unlatched and removed completely, the vehicle would be a great conversion van for a family with a disabled person who needs to haul a power wheelchair.
2. The removeable center console is a GREAT feature, I wish more cars had this.
What I see is having the rear seats on a sliding floor rail system. This way the rear seat could be slid all the way back and allow open space in the center. Plus I think/feel the rear seats should be removable and allow for similar to a cargo van. I grew up in 1970's where best friends mother had the vw van we would ride in, carry our bmx bikes around.
Nice job on the review guys. 100% respect to you guys and how polite you are to people that interrupt your filming. Kase, Alex and camera person nice to see polite young people. Take the platform and back row of seats out it would be a cargo delivery van. Are they only doing an electric version? At least with an electric vehicle they are not violating the Clean Air Act by installing illegal software into their diesel version to defeat test equipment on NOx. It really looked like you guys enjoyed it, nice to see the excitement but also the short falls you see. Now if they can put a nice rack up top, we all like that. Be safe.
Nice Review.
It's cool but, people are making excuses for it's major short comings. Which hopefully VW will address.
-No Sunroof
-No opening Rear Windows
-Range at full capacity is going to be bad
-The Cupholder Situation
-Trying to Clean that windshield from the inside..
-That Range with Towing is going to be terrible
As said hopefully VW will address these issues..
-And Autotrader Roy Reid a stated the light material stains very easily.
All in All it just a Mini Van.
Give me a Chrysler Pacifica...
And if it had Round headlights and roof mini windows...
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Great work guys, love to see your enthusiasm.
Very cool but the US version most likely won’t get the same options as Euro editions for example transit van or a camping edition which would be very appreciated. Good review guys 👏🏻👏🏻
A cargo one is simply VERBOTEN as they're made in Deutschland and would apply the 25% Chicken Tax there since 1964 precisely because of the original VW Transporter (even came as a regular and crew cab pickup). But a California camper is not out of possibilities. Even the passenger version (so far) couldn't qualify for any of the IRA Credits.
Looking at charging port one can see CCS2 meaning this is still not an American but European produced car. The Chattanooga version should be slightly longer (maybe even in 3 row sitting position) with CCS1 type of charging port. To charge that press vehicle you need a special adapter CCS 2 to CCS 1. However the old fashioned start-stop button has written on it start-stop engine instead of start-stop motor: I presume that is an awkward translation from German.
yep its the short wheelbase.
A similar style of hitch is allowed in the US. My Polestar 2 has something similar and it's very useful.
On this car Is the "A" pillar the one next to the door or the very first pillar ahead of the door which is part of the window frame??
For the younger generation, you should get a original Type 2 bus and a Vanagon to compare. This was a icon of vehicles back in the day. VW has done a great job of bringing back a historic type of vehicle.
Actually you'd wait until they get the US-spec LWB since that'd be sized a lot closer to the original Microbus (T-1) and Kombi (T-2).
I’d love to have one of these. It would have to be all wheel drive though
Love the enthusiasm and thoughts about the vehicle overall!
Glad to see someone getting back in the minivan game; now make a cargo version. I'm still pissed Chevy stopped making the Astro; these "city vans" just don't cut it.
How many surf boards did you fit in it? It looks like one of those Japanese cars we don't get in the states but scaled up. I live in an apartment and charging is a pain. This in a hybrid form I would have loved.
It's funny to say that the back windows don't roll down but only recently they just started doing that on the minivans for the longest time the back windows never rolled down. That was due to the sliding door.
I was 20 minutes in before I noticed the support for a local brewery. Liquid mechanics is an amazing brewery. 👍
The windows you were referring to are called safari windows I believe
Thank you VW and TFL.
This buzz looks amazingly cool. This is the first gen. Hope 2nd gen has the pano roof, longer range & auto rear window. I am 100% in, even with the heavy sticker price.
Any info on when they open up reservations for the US model?
there is one with a sun roof and its a big one and it can be frosted or clear mode.
according to teslabjorn tests, this ID Buzz spec can cover 620 miles in 10h30m, the model X raven did it in 10h20m
It's so cool that you ran into The Fonz!
There are cup holders ! Opens like a glove compartment!Dead middle of front fascia in front of where there would be a gear stick / stick shift in America!
Case and Alex are a great team and do a thorough review! Keep these guys on more reviews!
I would love one of these but living where I do not sure they ground clearance is enough and the range.
Good morning
So, how long before the steering wheel turns greyish?
Sorry, not a fan of white interior.
Nice job guys. Glad this vehicle speaks to your generation. Gotta agree with the old guys, Not a fan of the Haptic Touch controls. Keep up the good work.
I have got a ID Buzz Cargo since last year and I'm really satisfied. :)
I want to love it… feel like they missed the boat on not having a third row however.
Surely they will add a center arm rest and cup holders in the rear… hell my ‘22 GTI had a ton of em and a rear arm rest. Lol
price pending i would seriously consider buying this! especially after this in-depth review by chase and alex!
Am I out of my mind? Are cup holders really that big of a deal? Otherwise, thanks for the great look into the vehicle!
Cool review i,m 6'4 299lbs.would you consider this vehicle large person friendly?
Super cool. When and where do I sign up to buy one??
Thanks guys! Great video. The Buzz is the car I would trade my Tesla Model Y for when becomes available. Beautiful car.
Where and when are they gonna release details on the LWB model that was going to be ‘california-ized’ and the reason we can’t buy one in the US? They were supposed to release information last fall and have been dead quiet.
I know you said you were mostly joking about the cup holders, but no rear center arm rest is a very valid criticism.
Crazy got to sit in one at SXSW last year
I love it even though i am not a VW guy ... the option of charging at home with "homegrown" fuel is really enticing.... and did they give the first drive two you guys for the nostalgic 420 smell? Break in the VW Van!
Got a segment for everyone . Awesome
Pretty nice but I have to wonder what the price will be like. Range seems fine for a runabout and while it won't be the best for road tripping 170KW isn't bad. If you can charge in 30 minutes every 200 miles it's not too bad. I have always said 200 miles of real world range and less than 30 minutes to charge would be acceptable on the 1 or 2 road trips I do per year.
In Norway, saw it rested for 1000KM towing a pretty light trailer. Did OK, but like all BEV, keep at like 56 MPH and range goes up 75 MILES! 100 less Kilowatts/mile. 70 MPH really hurts ALL BEVs due to one-speed gearing. 74.4 MPH is bad in a BEV=120 Kph.
I hope they do the hub cap wheels like they did for the new beetle.
Supposed to be the longer wheelbase with 3 row seating and 100KW batteries.
Yes
Tré bon reportage merci excellent
Is that removable center console a portable cooler??