Please Join Me As I Take a Ride in a Driverless Taxi - Here's The Good, Bad, & Ugly!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ม.ค. 2023
- What's It Like To Take a Driverless Waymo Taxi. It's pretty interesting as Andre found out.
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It doesn’t drive “like a person” completely. It follows traffic laws and the real corker……it uses the turn signals. 😂
Not like a Jaguar driver anyway 😂
That is why they won't be able to use BMWs since the turn signals aren't operative.
Lol
It doesn't tail gate everyone.
😂😂😂
No need to tip? I'm IN!
I'm amazed how well it preformed. Love to see more videos like this!
I am posting a lot of videos of my rides. They are amateur in comparison, but they do show some great scenery and driving in San Francisco.
@@mayasf how? Do you not talk, do you ramble? Pretty easy stuff to get into.
Dude is literally just talking about the car driving skill and safety also any associated apps. Pretty easy and there is next to no special editing here
@@absolutelyfookinnobody2843 I do talk and I have a lot of Waymo rider experience, so maybe I am underestimating myself- thanks. And, on my last video I actually edited in some photos to the clips. :)
How much it cost?
This is a video that captures the entire process from the airport to a nearby restaurant and back to the airport. In addition, it contains important points such as Uber and Lyft and price comparison. Very good video.
Thank you!
I liked the comparison as it shows the service is quite competitive. I usually end up with chatty drivers. Seeing both this and Kyle's experience, I would prefer an autonomous machine driving me somewhere and just relax and listen to my lo fi chillout spotify list.
Andre constantly adjusting the seatbelt= high anxiety levels
I was worried about the seatbelt hitting my microphone.
@@TFLEVWonder if waymo will come to Tucson. When it first started they were testing their semi trucks here
Wow, ok, it seems to be a positive experience for the average person using these types of transportation services.
The vehicle looks like it is providing comfortable & and safe transport. The vehicle looks like it's driving very well for AI / computer operation, no wandering, no unessessary lane changing, very confident & smooth. Very cool 😎
So where does it go after
@@ittanbantan residental areas and parks most why people have been protesting them
Early in the ride. The I-pace was waiting to turn right.
I was impressed that it started to move forward beginning its turn as the cross traffic passed by.
I noticed that also. The ability of this vehicle to move based upon a PREDICTION of the future added to Andre's perception of "humanlike" driving by the vehicle. 202301271328
@@SLArmstrong The vehicles are tracking and timing other things in the road. I have taken hundreds of rides in SF and watched the Waymo Driver respond to humans stepping in the road and stepping back onto the sidewalk, not to mention how well it reads other vehicles!
That’s where it’s turning right to go North on 40th Street from Madison Street.
I work in that section of Phoenix and see them around a lot, never seen them do anything weird.
This is the best introduction and explanation of Waymo One that I've seen yet. Thank you! Very well done.
Thank you for watching.
One thing I noticed, it is much more sure of itself than Tesla FSD. Maybe there's some Indian guy somewhere at a desk with a screen and Sega like steering wheel named autonomous Bob.
One thing I noticed, you have no idea what you are talking about. Tesla FSD Beta could drive this same route just as confidently, and probably faster because the Tesla can make unprotected lefts while Waymo can only turn right unless it has traffic lights.
Tesla FSD Beta still makes some errors, but the testers are intentionally throwing the hardest challenges they have at it, and Waymo is intentionally being limited to the easiest to drive in areas of the cities they are in.
@@tribalypredisposed Tesla FSD City Streets is not designed to be autonomous. It is designed, both in beta form and for its final release, to operate with a human driver monitoring and ready to take over. I know there's a lot of confusion over this, and I know that Elon has led customers to believe that their vehicles are headed for Level 4 operation in the future. But Tesla has told regulators a different story, and we have several major clues that tell us the version shared with regulators is the true story. First, by definition, Level 4 is geofenced. When Elon originally promised Tesla buyers that their cars would drive themselves anywhere, he claimed that the cars would be Level 5, meaning they could drive anywhere a human could under the same conditions. Years later, he backed off that promise, instead saying the cars would reach Level 4. But what he didn't really highlight was what Level 4 meant. Level 4 essentially means two things: 1. The company will decide when and where vehicles can safely operate. 2. The company will have humans nearby to step in and handle situations the vehicles can not. Sometimes they can help remotely. Other times they will need to be there physically. Many testers who show FSD Beta in their videos talk about things like the streets of New York being "the ultimate test" of FSD. They're wrong. The real challenges for self-driving cars come in the form of special events, such as when your car gets hit by another driver, or an accident happens ahead of you on a highway, forcing you to stop and drive through the median to turn around. These are situations that occur rarely but which robotaxis must have some plan to deal with. The takeaway here is that until software is literally as smart as a human, we're going to encounter situations that humans will be needed. And that means that Level 4 services will appear regionally in geofenced settings where humans can plan their operation and be ready to assist.
Another major clue Tesla has given, aside from telling customers that FSD is Level 2, is the introduction of Hardware 4.0. Tesla is installing new cameras with higher resolutions and new positions, adding high definition radar, and increasing CPU power to allow for computer redundancy to its new vehicles. And they're telling their current customers that this hardware will not be available in their older vehicles. In short, what Tesla is saying is that it believes this better hardware is actually required for autonomous driving. Companies don't add hardware costs for themselves for no good reason. And this action should be a good clue to the hundreds of thousands of people who have paid for FSD that their cars will never fulfill the robotaxi dream that Elon hyped up. If and when Tesla truly starts building robotaxis, it will be with different hardware, and it will be offered one region at a time, just as we see other robotaxi companies already doing.
Level 3 and Level 4 are distinguished from Level 2 in that they are the first levels that offer true autonomy. With Level 3, the promise is that the vehicle can drive itself completely in some situations, with no driver monitoring, provided the driver is in the car and can respond when alerted by the vehicle. While FSD will alert drivers to a few situations it can't handle, it is by no means designed to do this for all situations it can't handle. And the fact that we have not seen Tesla expanding the situations it alerts drivers to is further evidence that Tesla is not pursuing anything beyond Level 2 with FSD City Streets.
You can find Tesla's statement to California regulators, assuring them that FSD City Streets, in its final release form, will remain Level 2.
@@communityband1 there is no "FSD City Streets," there is FSD. Level 5 autonomous is the goal. Yes, I believe HW4 and the new camera and radar suite will be required to reach level 5, and I said that back in 2018 when they were working on HW3 release and said HW4 would follow. There will never be any kind of geo-fencing for Tesla cars, but they are not going to be taking you off roading or on some highly irregular or barely detectable roads like exist in Mexico or the rest of the Third world. Tesla level 5 FSD will however be fully capable on actual roads of allowing the humans to sleep or watch a movie while it takes them where they want to go. I believe we are just a couple years away from that.
@@tribalypredisposed No, you're mistaken. FSD is the umbrella term for the full set of features which includes advanced features like AutoPilot, Smart Summon, City Streets and so on. And no, Level 5 is _not_ Tesla's goal. Elon has changed his wording to focus on Level 4. To solve Level 5, you realistically are going to have to solve artificial general intelligence. And I see no good reason to believe that a company working on autonomous vehicles will be the first to get there. If you get a car that's smart enough to handle any vehicle situation in the world a human can, it's also going to be able to handle pretty much anything else humans do as well. If you want to know who has the best chance of solving Level 5 autonomy, take your eyes off the self-driving car industry and start looking at AI research companies.
We don't know yet whether Level 5 will ever happen. But if it does, think decades, not 2 years. And you should very much expect that if Tesla pursues robotaxis, as they've been talking about, geofencing will be a part of that deal. It won't be with customer vehicles.
For the adventurous rider, they should get a Chinese girl to play Autonomous Bob.
And you didnt had to talk or tip the driver. Love it. 😆😉☺️
This is very exiting and futuristic. Great video!!
I don’t think the word “exiting” means what you think it means.
@@danieldaniels7571 Yes sorry about the missing C.
This taxi doesn't' come to work hungover, upset from an argument, stressed over bills, isn't texting while driving, follows all the rules of the road, isn't on drugs, and is overly cautious! Hmmmm. I think I would rather share the road with this.
It’s also very well insured
That was freaken' amazing. Every bus, currently operating from the Phoenix airport, like to park-n-rides, nearby hotels or to other public transportation hubs, should be outfitted with Waymo tech. What this portends for the trucking industry is scary.
Waymo is far cheaper that the other services. If you choose Uber or Lyft then add 4-5 dollars for tip. That gives Waymo a 20% price advantage!
Plus there's no driver to tip
Thanks Andre and TFL for this interesting video. Great job of showing how these waymo cars drive, and what it is like to ride in one.
For those wondering on price right now. The trip he took was 3.9 miles and it cost him $17.09.
That comes out to $4.38 a mile.
I think this is really interesting technology, but for right now, it is in a more gimmicky state. It’s fun for the occasional ride, but until prices go down I don’t think it can be used everywhere.
What do you mean it isn't going to be free, it's like Uber or Lyft?
@@harriskaYou are correct. It would not make sense for technology like this to be free. It would also not make sense for Uber/ride sharing to be free. My point is, for now, driverless cars are more expensive, and as such more gimmicky, than a regular Uber and other ride sharing services. Though I really am excited to see this technology get to the point of it being cheaper than owning a car.
Well, that is sort of competitive with Taxicabs. So I think that the car is not too crazy if that's what it is trying to do. Otherwise, I am unsure what it is supposed to do.
Uber/Lyft prices are minus a tip for the driver, correct?
I trust driverless cars and driver-assist more than the impatient, hostile tailgating humans on i75 through florida.
I like the fact that you brought up a strong disadvantage to those cars being very inclimate weather. Especially here in northern Canada where the weather can change every 2 - 5 minutes on a bad day. I can see them adopting some other type of military tech or just refining it better for foggy days or very rainy days like the pacific northwest has. I live in British Columbia Canada way up north and was hoping to see your lightning coverage from Mile 0 of the Alaska Highway.
LIDAR doesn't work well in rain and snow, so Waymo is coming your way never.
@@tribalypredisposed from what i understand: Waymo uses a custom-built lidar system that was developed in-house. It is a spinning lidar with a 360-degree field of view and a range of up to 300 meters. The lidar system is designed to be robust and operate in a variety of conditions, including rain, fog, and snow.
@@manp1039 Then let's see them offer winter service in Chicago or Minneapolis. You don't notice how dry and warm all of Waymo's, and Cruise's, demo cities are?
There is a YT video of a Waymo driving in the rain in SF. It was doing fine until it tried to drive over a large tree branch in the road, became immobilized, and human help had to be summoned.
But all of this is minutiae. Their LIDAR and all the rest cost a lot of money, and costs a lot of electricity to power, and both of those add up to a FSD solution that simply cannot compete economically with Tesla, and cannot scale to compete with Tesla either. Would you summon a robo taxi that costs three times as much from a company with a fleet three orders of magnitude smaller? No. It doesn't matter if Waymo makes it work everywhere, it doesn't matter if they are first to level 5, what matters is Tesla can make millions of robo taxis a year and provide them way below the cost of a Waymo.
When comparing pricing: don't forget you're supposed to pay the driver a salary in form of tips.
Anyone else shouting "look at the app" as he was trying to open the door? :D
oops.
You can see it drives so much smoother then older models, Like stopping at a stop sign and already started to accelerate while the passing car from the left isn't fully passed. That tiny thing makes it feel so much smoother and human like.
Andrey never bring in a full autonomous vehicle in public makes it sound like he has a guilty pleasure of using them in private
That was totally cool. I’m going to use it definitely. Very innovating and futuristic.
Finally I’m not the only one
I think you contradicted yourself, you said it drives like a person but you said it turned on the blinkers, lol...
funny...
Great job, Andre the car was very confident in his driving ability
EXCUSE ME!!! DID YOU JUST ASSUME THAT CAR'S GENDER? 🤣🤣🤣
@@Skooozle we ain’t doing that here go make a sandwhich
@@BeefGummybears my bad.
I just wonder if that trash bag had been a big pot hole or a dog let alone a kid, and car continues straight like nothing there.
@@Skooozleyep
I have had a few bad taxi/uber drivers but I couldn't sit in the back in a self driving car. You are brave
Why not?
@@danieldaniels7571 I think, he thinks he could take over in an emergency situation,
@@straighttalk2069 I think they have people in their office who do that.
@@danieldaniels7571 I mean grab the steering wheel or brakes in the vehicle, if all else fails.
It would do pretty good in Las Vegas.
They should only allow autonomous vehicles and emergency/delivery vehicles on the strip in my opinion.
I just bought a Chevy Bolt to drive for Uber. I'm thinking I should drive Uber as much as I can while I still can. Robotaxis are coming, and I'll be out of a job. Hope I pay off the loan first!
I wish you had shown more of the car navigating the roads and traffic
So do I. It would be good to see how it handles busier streets with higher speeds.
@@georgepelton5645 I have a a lot of video clips of my Waymo rides in San Francisco, including up to 45mph
Thank you for sharing this experience.
Great video! Thx for sharing!
uber and lyft would be more expensive as you SHOULD always tip a driver for those services because they rely on tips. same as with food delivery services.
So this is cheaper because you don't tip a computer :D
Great video mate
I live inside the Phoenix/Tempe zone where Waymo 1 operates. Those Jaguar I-Pace rigs are everywhere and almost all of them have a driver, I think to keep making better and better mapping of the area so that that ride can be as smooth as it was in this video. It still seems like a lot of overhead but of course as more vehicles have those sensors actual rides can do the mapping at the same time. Tesla uses the data from their drivers to accomplish this for their system. Waymo doesn't have that luxury so they send their drivers out to do the mapping, and I'm sure 1 Waymo trip collects much better data than 1 Tesla given all the extra mapping sensors on that vehicle
Interesting how the driverless cars operate. As time goes on, they will only get better, readily available in larger areas, and other drivers on the road will get used to them. Looks like a nice safe ride for you.
Thanks for the video.
Great video i would do it with no worries waymo has been doing this a long time.
Nice! I'll happily take a Waymo over any other taxy/rideshare service, thank you!
Great video Andre!
Great video, interested in seeing more videos like this, wonder what will happen on a really busy street and crowded 4 way stop etc.
I have a lot of videos of my Waymo One rides in San Francisco posted. I am just posting for fun, but you can see some nice turns and behavior at lights, stopped vehicles, etc
"...wonder what will happen on a really busy street...", well that's why this waymo ride chose the side streets & avoided the highway cuz the engineers know that the system has high probability of failure if it chose the highway, as decisions need to made quickly & any driving errors can lead to serious accidents at highway speeds, versus mild to almost no risk of accidents on side streets with less traffic. That literally proves how incompetent this technology currently is, that it can't even confidently drive on a highway on a clear sunny day, imagine tryna use a self-driving car on a busy street in LA during rush hour. Good luck. LOL
@@abhishekgarg5286 Interesting. I was wondering why it was taking side streets.
The fact that it's completely dirverless this is amazing.
Interestingly this week was the first time I encountered a Waymo without an engineer up front to monitor it in downtown Phoenix. I live in Tempe though and have seen a lot of Waymos with engineers recently, so I wonder if they are currently mapping Tempe and Scottsdale next.
They’ve been operating driverless in South Tempe for a while, offering service South of Alameda Drive for nearly a year.
I think it's safer than someone texting or being on their phone in general
Same 😅🎉
Looks like it's doing a great job. I wonder how much mapping time was required to get it to that point.
Loved the video
Good video - Very informative
The best food in Phoenix is at Speedy Street Tacos, and is walking distance from that Sky Train station. I live two miles North of that station. It’s almost always empty because most people drive to Sky Harbor.
Woah… You passed it at 8:06. It was on the right when you turned left onto Washington Street!
Observations: Definitely saw instances where it drove 'like a human'
Would like to see what it does if it approaches a 2x4 in the road.
Did Not say 'Thank You' when you reached your destination **FAIL** Even the Total Recall movie got that part right: "Thank You for using Johnny-Cab" 😄
What happens if a person forgets to close the door?
*in the future u think your driveless car is about to drop you off at the liquor store,but instead the government has over ridden the program and you end up at the curb of the local AA meeting* 😅🤣😂
Dad tries to "leave for cigarettes" and gets sent to the child support office.
Government like you drinking
Delamain's humble beginnings
Good, bad and ugly? I only saw ‘remarkable’ with real dummy at the beginning. It’s YOUR car. It doesn’t want total strangers getting into so of course you have to use the app😳
thank for the video, you are awesome
I think autonomous driving will be wonderful for the elderly or others who don’t have mobility. Fun video.
How are they getting in and out? At least a cabbie can help that elderly person.
Taxi!!
Or for people that don't like to drive like me
You were bit uncomfortable at the beginning, but as the ride continued you became confident in the driving skills of the car😂
Waymo One in Phoenix just expanded in early May to 180 sq miles so it does now cover parts of Scottsdale, Tempe and Chandler.
They should come here to tucson
Thank you very much for demonstrating about the self-driving car, wow it looks like that might be the future for all of us, that would be convenient if all cars will be self-driven. No more drunk drivers. I would buy one to self drive me to all the bars in Los Angeles, and not get a DUI. LoL
My neighborhood bar is close to where he took this ride, and they have had Waymo One drink coasters for a while. But everyone there would rather ride with Ruth.
Kyle from Out of Spec reviwed one last week to go to Target. He had a similar positive experience, though there were a couple of phantom braking experiences in higher speed boulevards. He was in a Caravan both times, which had available childseats.
What is really surprising is that you got to your destination alive...
Random thoughts.
Seeing how nonchalantly the tech was with the dark colored trash bag....what if a manhole cover was missing?
Does it ask for a tip?
Would it drive through Camden...in the middle of the night?
Is there a get me outta here mode?
If I use it for a bank heist and getaway car, who gets busted as my accomplice?
You’re a brave man Andre!
Why
One more site attraction for the next time I'm in Phoenix!
It's not gingerly. It is not aggressive. It is just right. Watch out UBER, Lyft and Checker Cab companies. 😅
Earlier in my hundreds of rides, the Waymo Driver was more cautious. It IS growing more assertive and I love it. For example at a stop, it will wait, but if someone doesn't go when it is their turn, it will proceed to keep traffic moving. It is a great balance. I am sure I caught some of this in my footage. [edited for mistake/clarity]
I’m taking my first Waymo ride this weekend here in San Francisco
I’m super excited
This is so amazing to be witnessing the future now, thanks for taking us along 👏👏👏👍😊
It’s fascinating to see this technology advance.
Amazing. The future is now, apparently. Kind of which it had a Johnny Cab driver, though. That would be totally insane.
I think it would be better if they had put a dog-doll in the front seat driving, just to amuse onlookers.
wonderful video
Interesting future. Looking forward to your upcoming Chevy Colorado videos
It's definitely not like a human driver from Indiana. It actually came to a stop for stop signs and red lights.
I like it. I’d use one of these if available, at least in good weather. The car drives itself in a refined manner - smooth and confident. It’s actually the best I’ve seen one of these things perform. Better than Tesla’s FSD by a good margin from what can be gleaned from this short ride, but that is an apples-oranges comparison.
Funny as hell when the car drove right by Andre, and when he caught up with it, it wouldn’t let him in!
I’m surprised that Waymo is using such small cars for taxis. Andre looked cramped, even though he said the space was sufficient. (Andre looks much more at-home in a full-sized pickup.) The Pacifica would have been a better choice.
Great video. I’d like to see TFL do a self-driving series to compare the different platforms , and perhaps repeat series every year or so to monitor progress.
One thing I like over Uber - I wouldn’t feel the need to tip !
There should be a “New York city” mode- “ok bub, we’re here, get out, ya jerk!”
:😄
In very low traffic areas and great weather, it looks good. The drive from JFK to central park in snow might be less comfortable.
Great video - first time I have seen the viewpoint of a passenger in a Waymo vehicle.
Watching this video for the second time, i enjoy watching it👍
Phoenix!!! Hello neighbor! Welcome to the Valley of the Sun!
Howdy, fellow Phoenician!
4:52 I think I’d leave my seatbelt off in case I need to jump out.
really cool, I hope Hong Kong can have this as well
It's really cool. It might be a while before we get this service over here in the UK but it's surely just a matter of time. We've just got driverless buses and trains here at the moment.
One thing I would like is to be allowed in the 'drivers' seat of a driverless car, because, call it psychological if you like but I would feel like if something did go wrong ( extremely unlikely I know) I could quickly take over but in the backseat, it would be more difficult to get there in time, especially when buckled up and I presume that there is some sort of manuel override, even if it was maybe just a question of turning the wheel to get the vehicle out of some potential danger it might have gotten itself into. Just a thought. Thanks.
I like how Roman sent Andre to do this without him. Andre's face at 6:06 says it all. Wonder what will happen when an unruly kid, or adult jumps up front and tries to drive it. Awesome content!
Probably shuts down if you touch any controls
They'll probably be removing steering wheel and pedals soon.
You’re giving me bad ideas
Cool video! Have you tried or are going to try the GM Cruise vehicle?
It will be cool when the autonomous taxis doesn’t have front seats and steering wheels
Hahahaha...I just got a look at that car at the end...No wonder people were looking at you... Looks like Robocops new cruiser...
Those cars have been all over Phoenix for a while. Most people ignore them now.
You are so brave, thank you for showing us the video 😂
Hey Fellas - I work at Cruise. I'd love to see you take our car :) DM me anytime
Hoping we see the Origin soon
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This is awesome! In France we're like 20 years behind but I can't wait to see 100% of automatic vehicles on the road. Can you imagine, virtually no accident or traffic jam anymore ❤
Shit no! I hope not! I like driving.
@@dedeferreira98You like driving ? 😂😂😂
@@sweetman5249 why wouldnt i? Driving isnt a chore, i dont live in a city like New York. Why is it funny? Many people like driving and Cars i general
Good job! I noticed you were fiddling with your seat belt pretty often === a little nervousness I presume.
TFL and Andre hit it out of the park! Best review of an autonomous vehicle I've ever seen! Great job!
Thank you!
Super cool , i think they must put in the future something like a talking ia like a "Taxi chat-gpt " , as an interface just for talking (and maybe give some orders like "stop , its here" ,but vey limited , the control must be over this cause llm make erros yet)
Anyway , its very impresive 😊
Nice one
Wow! what an experience. I was nervous riding. I like to see what is happening around me, more than sitting in a back seat. Something I will try in the future.
You can sit in the passenger seat in the front
Sorry Andre
I can't really see the acceleration when the camera is mostly pointing not on the road!
But you could hear the electric motor whine and infer acceleration from that as well as seeing the dash speedo readout periodically.
Its brilliant
Wow amazing
The future is here for sure😊
Lol imagine if it could sense how much alcohol is in your system and takes you to the nearest police station 🤣
It’s not illegal to be a drunk passenger
Outstanding technology 😮
I would want to know why the vehicle chose to drive over the 3- dimensional trash bag that was in the road rather than avoid it. What would the vehicle do if that object was capable of damaging the vehicle, or worse still a pet or person lying motionless in the street (which does happen)?
Maybe it can identify the different objects like drivers do
Q: I would want to know why the vehicle chose to drive over the 3- dimensional trash bag that was in the road rather than avoid it(?) A: because it didn't see it in the first place. ref: Occam's Razor - "All things being equal the simplest answer tends to be the correct one".
I would like to see a review on the Jeep Wrangler 4xe and the Jeep Cherokee 4xe
TFL reviewed them. Very good PHEVs, but 17 kWh battery is small and L2 7kW charging rate is slow.
The things that man has accomplished here is truly amazing for the world to see. They have been able to create just about anything here. They have been to space, deep depths of the ocean and now a robot self driving car exist.
Next will be a selfless driving airplanes and ships in the new world to come later.