Why Great Ace Attorney Couldn't Be Localised Sooner

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 เม.ย. 2021
  • The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles are finally coming to the West, which means that fans of Phoenix Wright games have two entirely new games to look forward to. In The Great Ace Attorney, one of Phoenix Wright's ancestors, Ryunosuke Naruhodo, travels to Victorian London to team up with acclaimed super sleuth...Herlock Sholmes?
    Wait, no, that can't be right.
    While in the Japanese edition of Great Ace Attorney (Dai Gyakuten Saiban) features a team-up with Sherlock Holmes, the Western releases features a completely different character. A completely. Different. Legally. Distinct. Character.
    Why? Because Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Estate is nothing if not litigious, and they have a very liberal interpretation of what constitutes their copyrighted material.
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  • @nowayok_99
    @nowayok_99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +748

    This is so funny: you move 1 letter in the character's name and they can no longer catch you, even if that character is OBVIOUSLY the same one. It's like a swift kick in the knees and it's hilarious

    • @mykaruest3620
      @mykaruest3620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      I think the original story is that Herlock Sholmes was created by a Frenchman who tried to have a crossover with Sherlock Holmes was rejected went French courts and they accepted Sholmes out of British spite and every country outside of England accepted it.

    • @manuelalbertoromero9528
      @manuelalbertoromero9528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@mykaruest3620 Yeah. Arlene Lupin is the crossover character in question.

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You make it sound like a plot point in an Ace Attorney game.

    • @mykaruest3620
      @mykaruest3620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Yeah, the funniest part about it is that the only reason Sholmes was created was because Arsène Lupin's author Maurice Leblanc was a rejected collab fanboy. Mr. Leblanc read the French translations, fell in love with them, and asked Doyle personally for a collaboration and was promptly rejected. Since he took the letter to heart he decided to create a character called Herlock Sholmes/Herlock Sholmés in France and elsewhere outside of the UK that happened to be the world's greatest detective from London. In the UK however it didn't work and Doyle himself faught it to the point petty Mr. Leblanc decided that Holmlock Shears would work and that stayed until the UK copyright on Sherlock Holmes ran out and it reverted to Sherlock Holmes or the superior Herlock Sholmes determining which translation or version you prefer. Moral of the story is that if you have enough salt you have a way.

    • @Kamui3821
      @Kamui3821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They deserve it for copyrighting a personality trait. That's just money hungry and selfish.

  • @mckaygoodman6514
    @mckaygoodman6514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    Herlock Sholmes just feels like more of an ace attorney name. This is the same game series that gave us names like Larry Butz, Lotta Hart, and Ini Miney. Herlock Sholmes fits in perfectly

  • @steakdriven
    @steakdriven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1536

    You can't copyright a goddamn personality trait. I'd like to get my hands on the judge who accepted that argument in court

    • @hikarikouno
      @hikarikouno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +194

      Of course you can, you just need enough money to do it.

    • @beowolf9480
      @beowolf9480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      the character itself is in the public domain, but that's the first iteration of him, the later iteration made to have a personality, is not, you can use the name Sherlock Holmes, as long as it's clearly the first version, but the version with a personality, no

    • @steakdriven
      @steakdriven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@beowolf9480 but the game doesn't take place in those later years it takes place around the bakumatsu, you know a time during which Sherlock Holmes would be in his so-called original incarnation. The argument that him having a personality shift makes him a new character is absurd and any judge who takes that argument should be disbarred and thrown in prison

    • @MrJWTH
      @MrJWTH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I believe the case involving emotions was settled out of court and that there wasn’t a judge that ruled that emotions were copyrightable. I’m sure channels such as Leonard French and Legal Eagle would have had a video of such a judgement was made in a US court.

    • @cutest_pets
      @cutest_pets 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      What's next
      Shy is copyrighted?

  • @spiralhalo
    @spiralhalo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +784

    Now we wait for Great Ace Attorney to be in public domain and reuse its iteration of Herlock Sholmes in a Persona 5 Parody to complete the full circle

    • @billyharris2794
      @billyharris2794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Good news, Herlock Sholmes actually *is* a public domain character. He's Arsene Lupin's legally distinct rival in the 1900's Arsene Lupin series. The Doyle estate has been greedy with the Sherlock character for over a century now.

    • @ShadwSonic
      @ShadwSonic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Good luck with that, current copyright law says that _all_ games are still not public domain, unless specifically created to be so. Only way that would change would be to rewrite the law to be more reasonable.
      Which, to be honest, isn't a bad idea on its own.

    • @ShadwSonic
      @ShadwSonic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Cyber Console wolf As if the ESRB has much of a say in legality... and if you've been keeping up with politics from non-propaganda sources, you'd have very good reason to think that the Left are going to be forced out of all branches of government pretty soon. A _Trump_ government making changes to copyright would do the job right, wouldn't you say?

    • @goldlight1322
      @goldlight1322 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe if P6 decides to revisit the Phantom Thief idea (unlikely, I know), that can include Moriarty as the main character's Persona... Or, if that gets the Doyle estate upset, make it something like Muriorty.

  • @MrZer093
    @MrZer093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +953

    Surprised there wasn’t a throwaway comment about how Disney has been profiting off the public domain since forever thanks to all their fairy tale adaptations. Disney’s genuinely so full of it.

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ooh, nice comment!

    • @serpentmaster1323
      @serpentmaster1323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      At the same time keeping Mickey out of the public domain- he's twice overdue!

    • @Rognik
      @Rognik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      It's enough to acknowledge that Disney messed with copyright law, which then affects every other IP, which the Doyle estate uses to milk Holmes media. The time for both of them, though, is running out. Get ready to make your Mickey Mouse fanfiction into a legal work!

    • @Nosidda
      @Nosidda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@serpentmaster1323 I mean he is in the public domain now, but it's only the Steamboat Willy variation of him. But you still can't use the name Mickey Mouse, because it's now trademarked by Disney. So long as Disney's in business, that trademark will never go away.

    • @Ladywizard
      @Ladywizard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Nosidda Think about half the Sherlock Holmes books are public domain now... seems just 4 novels and 46 short stories are all the estate can still claim

  • @HeyIJust3334
    @HeyIJust3334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +715

    "Here's where Persona 5 comes into the mix, by the way."
    Me: _looks at Ace Attorney localization manual_ "Did I miss a page?"

  • @fluffyeevee383
    @fluffyeevee383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +244

    "Copyright law lasts a little longer in the US"
    Disney: "The copyright law will last ∞-1 days"

  • @gldni17
    @gldni17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +318

    I am not surprised that Herlock was the trick to avoid copywrite issues, although rather fascinating the whole deal with the "copyrighted works" is really just a trap at this point since technically, the whole point of public domain characters is that you can take them and CHANGE them, so emotional development shouldn't really be so easy as a trick to keep Sherlock out of public use.
    All well, I'm fine with Herlock Sholmes getting some extra recognition, especially with how sassy his very existence really is historically. X3c

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Even though Sherlock and Herlock are actually different characters, Herlock is one of the more popular Expies of Sherlock besides Solar Pons.

  • @pandajam7921
    @pandajam7921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +478

    I will gladly watch anything Ace Attorney

    • @vikinggamer7727
      @vikinggamer7727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah, but this is the GREAT ace attorney

    • @Joe.Jarvis
      @Joe.Jarvis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes please!

    • @malditesta
      @malditesta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Finally! Something new that's not just memes!! I mean...poor Sholmes just got localized and he got memed to oblivion but still.
      Not that I'm complaining about the memes, they're great. I'm just happy I can finally play this game!

  • @Mnemoniforma9.00
    @Mnemoniforma9.00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    Doyle Estate: "If the Burroughs Estate can hold Tarzan hostage from Kingdom Hearts, I can do the same to Capcom!"
    **Capcom uses Herlock Sholmes instead**
    ♫You'll never see it coming!♫

  • @TheTurdle
    @TheTurdle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Copyright law : You can't release the great ace attorney in the US because Sherlock Holmes is copyrighted
    Capcom : But his name is Herlock Sholmes
    Copyright law : *Understandable have a great day*

  • @ItsDevinJ
    @ItsDevinJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +415

    No, this isn't a Mario fangame. This is Superior Lario Siblings, about Lario and his brother Muigi who are out to save Person of Royalty Frogstool, otherwise known as Nectarine, from the clutches of the evil Fils-Aimé! You can't sue me now, Nintendo!

    • @MrZer093
      @MrZer093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      You joke, but other companies totally did that in the 80s and 90s with the most famous example being “The Great Gianna Sisters”

    • @M0D776
      @M0D776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@MrZer093 but didn't the Gianna Sisters evolve into something else recently?

    • @jasonblalock4429
      @jasonblalock4429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@M0D776 Yeah... Nintendo successfully shut down distribution of the original 80s Great Gianna Sisters, but somehow the IP got revived with a few surprisingly good platformers last decade.

    • @MrJWTH
      @MrJWTH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@M0D776 Ye,ps, their most recent game was not directly ripping of a previous Mario game and the name itself didn’t have any legal issues attached.

    • @PrixtoTNT
      @PrixtoTNT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrZer093 The simple tittle of that game always makes me laugh hard

  • @WarmLillie
    @WarmLillie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +370

    As a certain blue hedgehog once said no copyright in the universe is going to stop me...

    • @KA-qv7be
      @KA-qv7be 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah...I remember that meme!

  • @MisteRRYouTuby
    @MisteRRYouTuby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +424

    The moral of the story: SOMETIMES, good things DON’T come to those who wait...

    • @quinnholloway5400
      @quinnholloway5400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      At least we're getting both sequels on all platforms, the only thing that pisses me is just that the other 3DS games aren't ported yet

    • @penguinkirb3759
      @penguinkirb3759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@quinnholloway5400 except xbox

    • @quinnholloway5400
      @quinnholloway5400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@penguinkirb3759 fair point sadly...

    • @Nicco1221
      @Nicco1221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@penguinkirb3759 Maybe Xbox should've bought the 2019 Trilogy. only 5,000 units sold on Xbox Worldwide.

    • @MrJWTH
      @MrJWTH 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@quinnholloway5400 Tenichally it is one mobile.

  • @TayoEXE
    @TayoEXE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    0:18 It's "Ace Attorney Investigations 2" actually, but seriously, the fan localization is fantastic. In my top 3 Ace Attorney games of all time.

    • @adv78
      @adv78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      My favorite and it's not even close, AAI2 is justo so good and the fan localization is fantastic.

    • @unitlonda4925
      @unitlonda4925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I can't handle the thought of Sebastian having a different name if there ever was an official localization

    • @Nyahahameha
      @Nyahahameha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm enjoying Lucahjin's playthrough of it currently! :D It's a fantastic Ace Attorney so far, we're a way into Chapter 2.

    • @JorWat25
      @JorWat25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@adv78 Honestly, it's up there with Mother 3's translation. OK, maybe not that good, but it's still very well done. The team went far beyond what they needed to do, not only translating all the text, but also localising the names (still love Jay Elbird), editing graphics to make the text English, and even recording new 'Objection!' voice clips. There is literally no Japanese left in the game.

    • @battousaix4263
      @battousaix4263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, it's a very close second to T&T for me. Easily beats the other two games in Phoenix's trilogy. Kinda surprising honestly since I found the first one to only just be decent

  • @Haremweeb
    @Haremweeb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +372

    everyone knows it's because capcom couldn't come up with a good replacement name for sherlock until someone saw a herlock sholmes meme and thought that was the most genius thing ever

    • @sherlockholmes532
      @sherlockholmes532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      It's both a meme and also the name Sherlock receives in the Arsené Lupin books, due to the same problem, copyright.

    • @jasonblalock4429
      @jasonblalock4429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@sherlockholmes532 And due to the popularity of Lupin III in Japan, the Arsene Lupin stories are probably better known there than in most places in the West. (Aside from France, obviously.)

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Pardon!
      Cake Delivery for “arie ntoinette...”
      Gosh, there’s chocolate on the bill...
      Harie Mantoinette!
      XD

    • @zimonzieclown1633
      @zimonzieclown1633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sherlockholmes532Atlus used the name "Arsène" and the concept of the gentleman thief all the way back in 2017 when Persona 5 came out... so what took Capcom so long to switch from Sherlock Holmes to Herlock Sholmes?

    • @Tioko
      @Tioko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@zimonzieclown1633 Maybe Arsene fell into public domain before Herlock. It was an established book series already before the crossover.

  • @DJVLDN
    @DJVLDN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    What’s not mentioned in the video is that the US court ruling that declared Holmes to be in the public domain also called the Conan Doyle estate’s business model “extortion”. They enforced a copyright they didn’t have by intimidating creators with threats of lawsuits, and since no one wants to go to court the creators and producers would always pay what the estate wanted.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That sounds like a lawsuit that would NEED to happen though.

  • @tiffyw92
    @tiffyw92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    Can't wait to see how Susato fangirls over Le Blanc's famous work of Herlock Sholmes vs Arsene Lupin. Maybe she'll be a Lupin fan too, hahaha!

  • @KirbyLinkACW
    @KirbyLinkACW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I'm so glad someone explained the Arsene Lupin history! It was draining looking at everyone crack jokes about the localization team being lazy.

  • @chrisjackson6149
    @chrisjackson6149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    I'm glad it happened later than never. It was worth it having this Sherlock Holmes profile pic for years.
    EDIT: I'm going to localize my comment to Herlock Sholmes instead.

    • @hiraethion
      @hiraethion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For YEARS? Damn dude, that's dedication right there.

  • @PrismPoint
    @PrismPoint 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The funny thing about the Doyle estate copyrighting the look of Holmes wearing a dearstalker hat is that in the original stories, he never really wore one. An illustrator actually put one on him when he wouldn't be wearing one in the scene, and it just stuck.

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s a funny accident.

    • @harrya9458
      @harrya9458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Kinda similar to how Sherlock in the BBC series doesn’t wear one and it was just a single photo from a single time

  • @unrealkirbo
    @unrealkirbo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    "To the Conan Doyle Estate, the greedy imprisoners of the master of deduction and good rival of mine. You cease and desist all those who wants to travel to the great world of case solving magic in their own way, believing that you are carrying out the will of good old Arthur. Thus, i have decided to steal those distorted desires away, and if managed to beat dear Sherlock, then i assure you, i can't fail." [From: Arsene Lupin]

  • @kirbyinhalesjotaro4471
    @kirbyinhalesjotaro4471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    this is a conan-doyale estate moment

    • @falconeshield
      @falconeshield 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You thought JK Rowling was bad!

  • @donaldorios6268
    @donaldorios6268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Kinda ironic that a game franchise about attorneys at law ran into some legal trouble...

  • @ssjduelistDD
    @ssjduelistDD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Technically there are 3 or 4 stories of Holmes that are not public domain until 2023. So it's not completely copyright free.

    • @VideoGameStoryTime
      @VideoGameStoryTime  3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Plus, something we cut from this video for time, the Conan Doyle Estate also sues over any works that were started *before* the copyright expired, even if they weren't published until afterwards. Even after 2023, they're going to claim a three year grace period on those last few stories, so this isn't going to end for another half a decade or so. Even then, they own the Sherlock Holmes trademark, so they'll no doubt keep going.

    • @PrincessFelicie
      @PrincessFelicie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@VideoGameStoryTime ngl that kind of crap pulled by rich people with too much money really makes a gal want to be a copyright abolitionist

    • @VideoGameStoryTime
      @VideoGameStoryTime  3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@PrincessFelicie None of our videos are copyrighted. They're published under creative commons instead, so anyone can remix them however they see fit. I'm not wholly opposed to all forms of copyright, but the laws we have at the moment just don't hold water.

    • @user-fe8gx3ie5v
      @user-fe8gx3ie5v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@PrincessFelicie 1. You're not a girl. 2. The main flaw of copyright law is how long it takes for IP to become public domain.

    • @seqka711
      @seqka711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@user-fe8gx3ie5v Don't be a dick. It's not a fun look.

  • @Harukurochan
    @Harukurochan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Wow, the Conan Doyle estate is really using *actual personal tragedies* that Arthur Conan Doyle experienced to justify hoarding the Sherlock Holmes copyright for themselves. And I thought Disney was low.

  • @Foxhood
    @Foxhood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    So the Great Ace Attorney is using how a property that was using an blatant Copyright dodging name ended up in the Public domain freeing up both itself and the mock name. Said mock-name already being pretty much iron-clad from scrutiny due to its age. All to avoid having to deal with the Conan Doyle Estate. That is just deviously clever.

  • @Xevailo
    @Xevailo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Herlock Sholmes? I bet Hodd Toward and Reanu Keeves would be delighted to meet him!

  • @huntarbates2814
    @huntarbates2814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I actually read up about Lupin meeting Sherlock Holmes a few months ago and thought the whole exchange was hilarious from the legal end. So glad that the goofy story was used to free Ace Attorney from copyright jail.

  • @WarmLillie
    @WarmLillie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Justice has been made today but wait for the rest for a clean victory

  • @eggleysucks
    @eggleysucks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    as an ace attorney fan ngl i screamed when the trailer dropped

    • @pandajam7921
      @pandajam7921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I saw the gamexplain notification in class and I choked on my saliva and proceeded to rush to find a trailer

    • @Me-uq1eh
      @Me-uq1eh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

  • @mcel6053
    @mcel6053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I knew the Origin of Herlock Sholmes because Arsene Lupin is one of my favorite books. Great to see that Leblanc's exploit now works towards one of my favorite videogames as well XD

  • @minermole101
    @minermole101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Copyright sometimes can be Hell. I know it's a necessary thing, but it can also be a complicated mess.

  • @thamismash8959
    @thamismash8959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As always, great video, very informative. As a hardcore Ace Attorney fan, this was bugging me for a long time - now that's more than clear. Thank you ❤️

  • @vintprox
    @vintprox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    LeBlanc, Holmes
    Zinc Lablanc, Herlock Sholmes
    Capcom: *Hold my beer*

    • @E4439Qv5
      @E4439Qv5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Zinc Lablanc isn't a tribute to Maurice LeBlanc.
      He's just a funny foreign art dealer with a name inspired by zinc blanks, used to make cheap coins.

    • @vintprox
      @vintprox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@E4439Qv5 Interesting coincidence then :D Thanks for pointing out.

  • @mariokarter13
    @mariokarter13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Easiest way to avoid getting sued: Make your character incredibly similar, yet legally distinct.
    "RUN, IT'S GODZILLA!"
    "It only looks like Godzilla! But due to international copyright law, it is not."
    "STILL, LET'S RUN LIKE IT IS GODZILLA!!"

    • @Harrisow
      @Harrisow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      From Steven Universe Future's series finale.

    • @AsyrafFile
      @AsyrafFile 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Harrisow Actually it from Austin Powers Goldmember.

    • @geenkaas6380
      @geenkaas6380 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It is Moozila

  • @xcross4286
    @xcross4286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love how the video is actually styled like a ace attorney case

  • @alishaanimations3058
    @alishaanimations3058 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Oop yeyy we’re talking about Ace attorney which means it’s getting popular again

    • @klulikxd
      @klulikxd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That don't mean it

    • @supersonicsaga
      @supersonicsaga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Phoenix wright is that series that everybody knows about but never buys.

    • @TayoEXE
      @TayoEXE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@supersonicsaga Except they do? The series is fantastic. It's sold over 8 million copies.

    • @alishaanimations3058
      @alishaanimations3058 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TayoEXE 8million + 1 if it can be released in the UK😪

    • @bidilz
      @bidilz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alishaanimations3058 what about trilogy, i mean you british can play that atleast

  • @shinnemort4271
    @shinnemort4271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    it's worth noting that there are plenty of flat out usage of not only Sherlock Holmes as a Character but many plots and allusions to scenarios and stories from the Sherlock Holmes stories ie. the Red-Headed League, some of which may have still been under Copyright Law, which is why even if they used Herlock Sholmes in 2016, other names of peoples and events may have still gotten them sued, and may still.

    • @VideoGameStoryTime
      @VideoGameStoryTime  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      An excellent point, we didn't get into it in this video but those last few stories slowly slipping out of copyright may have impacted why the game can be released now, but couldn't be released earlier. That said we didn't want to speculate too much on this in the video, as we're in all honesty not experts on the Sherlock Holmes canon.

  • @phrophetsamgames
    @phrophetsamgames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved playing the first DGS game with the fan translation patch and now I'll get to play the official localisation with official english VA's. Gonna be awesome and legit excited.

  • @xana3961
    @xana3961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Arsene pulled the greatest heist of his career. He stole Sherlock Holmes from the copyright of the Doyle estate with the character Herlock Sholmes. What a god damn legend.

  • @KA-qv7be
    @KA-qv7be 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    _Moral Of The Story:_
    The detective doesn't listen when you say "No sh**, Sherlock", and that's why it took this long.

  • @BIastProcX
    @BIastProcX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Me still waiting for an Ace Attorney Investigations 2 localization

    • @doopman512
      @doopman512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you go on Ebay sometimes people sell unofficial AAI2 english translated physical cartridges! Thats how I got to play the game and it works 100%.
      The only thing you need is a DS specifically (not DSi or 3DS, those don't work). The translators did a great job and it really feels official/on-brand!

    • @GamerConnoisseurRei
      @GamerConnoisseurRei 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me who has played it on NDS emulator: It's freaking awesome my no.1 Ace Attorney games followed closely by DGS 1&2

    • @SolMasterzzz
      @SolMasterzzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just play the fan translation, it's absolutely stellar!

    • @geenkaas6380
      @geenkaas6380 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You only need to wait for a few months

  • @louisantonio2462
    @louisantonio2462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Objection! Another possible reason why it took Capcom up to 2021 to adapt The Great Ace Attorney by using Lupin's Herlock Sholmes may be how they wanted to see other adaptations that uses the intellectual properties of Lupin in recent years such as Netflix Lupin or the new Lupin the Third movies in order to truly confirm that the names can be used freely. Furthermore, I figured that they needed to twist a lot of the chapter names from the game's cases too in order to pass the copyright gate.

  • @psychicflora
    @psychicflora 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That also explains the localization problems of Detective Conan ( it also got troubles from the holders of Conan the barbarian rights)

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Which also makes zero sense because it's a NAME. Mr O'Brian would have something to say about that.

  • @FrostDeino
    @FrostDeino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ooh I really liked this video
    Persona 5 and Ace attorney info in one video? That's great

  • @Insert.Oregano
    @Insert.Oregano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "The franchise *Trials and Tribulations* can be over, and there can be *Justice for All* "
    Nice

  • @elbert0p1kachu
    @elbert0p1kachu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    >What I watched:
    >What I expected: Oh no no no no no no no no, How will we translate that PW's ancestor is from Meiji Japan and not Japanifornia
    >What I got: I'm not Sonic. I'm my original character, Blonic.

  • @Nyahahameha
    @Nyahahameha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "A bit of Persona 5 Phantom Thievery."
    I think you mean a bit of Great Thievery courtesy of the Yatagarasu.

  • @Chellythefox
    @Chellythefox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is totally my original character; Herlock Sholmes

    • @clarehidalgo
      @clarehidalgo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maurice Leblanc did that in 1908 actually

    • @Nosidda
      @Nosidda 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      People really need to get their facts straight

  • @SeriousMcnegative
    @SeriousMcnegative 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Phoenix Wright fans rejoice!"
    I'll do it... But not because you told me to...

  • @RHM087
    @RHM087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And here I was genuinely thinking the name Arsene was a play off "arson"; thanks for the history lesson

  • @alarmlessRifleman
    @alarmlessRifleman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, it was very informative. I never knew that the core of the issue lied in Sherlock.

  • @nothingtoreport1918
    @nothingtoreport1918 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got into the series: I’m glad it’s seeing a big resurgence!

  • @starstriker4960
    @starstriker4960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Me: Finally all the games are released
    Others: but what about investigat-
    Me: FINALLY ALL THE GAMES ARE RELEASED

  • @spouwnerring
    @spouwnerring 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    They really need to change international copyright law.

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I stand with ya.

    • @anthonygerardotorresgonzal6269
      @anthonygerardotorresgonzal6269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Guy: Run It's Godzilla
      Man: It Looks Like Godzilla but due to International Copyright Laws, It's Not
      Guy: Still Run, Like it is Godzilla
      Man: But it Isn't
      Both: Ahhhhhhhh!!!

  • @GameKeeper28
    @GameKeeper28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love Herlock Sholmes as much as I love Percule Hoirot.

  • @brandonpierce2539
    @brandonpierce2539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dang, so Disney's assholer-y over Mickey's copyright inadvertently extended the time it would take for Capcom to localize GAA?
    Their reach is truly shocking...

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Capcom’s pretty bad as a company, but its creative teams are pretty talented nonetheless.

  • @gvs485
    @gvs485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Next game: Phoenix against copyright laws xD
    Also great video as always! Love Video Game Story Time

  • @fabianwhs9891
    @fabianwhs9891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If you wouldn't have made this video and it wouldn't have gotten randomly recommended to me I probably wouldn't have learned about this, so thanks.🤣

  • @mccloaker
    @mccloaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I'd have been mad if they had called him Sherlock Holmes since he's so... Unfaithful to the literary character. But him being a wacky knock-off fits SO perfectly. He's like Holmes' Wario.

    • @Tioko
      @Tioko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree! I haven’t thought about this before, but you’re right, the knock-off-ness makes his character more bearable!
      Truth be told, this version of Sherlock/Herlock is still a genius, but instead of being a logical master of deduction, he’s intuitive - he just KNOWS that the clue is OVER HERE, but fails to identify it correctly until Ryuunosuke (or Iris, I suppose) corrects him.

    • @mccloaker
      @mccloaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Tioko Eeexactly! Good point! And on that point, Wilson is also an impovement. A lolicon Watson was like fingernails across the blackboard of my soul.

    • @Tioko
      @Tioko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mccloaker IIRC, she’s supposed to be Watson’s daughter 🤷🏻‍♀️ Who uses her father’s name to write about The Great Detective.

    • @sponge1234ify
      @sponge1234ify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mccloaker Yeah, the "real" John H. Watson(/Wilson) appeared on the first case as a _murder victim,_ and it's noted when we finally met Herlock that his adventures has already been written and published.
      So, weirdly enough, Iris Wilson is actually Lolicon _Conan Doyle._

  • @statesminds
    @statesminds 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Herlock Sholmes lmao im stoked for this. I hope more of the other ace attorney games come to switch. Gotta find the old ds and 3ds ones.

  • @ConManAU
    @ConManAU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:21 Lupin is the Beer Baron? (Nice subtle reference!)

  • @PianoHypnoshroom
    @PianoHypnoshroom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally, after years of waiting, I will be able to see my Sherlock Holm- I mean Herlock Sholmes.

  • @Nova-_-
    @Nova-_- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    can we get a massive 'screw you' to Disney? Not the first time they've screwed something for everyone...

    • @deathzonekiller2261
      @deathzonekiller2261 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah

    • @TheSaharay1
      @TheSaharay1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This wasn't due to Disney tho.

    • @thebravegallade731
      @thebravegallade731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@TheSaharay1 yes it is.
      the entire copywright shtick is becasue of disney

    • @MrJWTH
      @MrJWTH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TheSaharay1 Technically it is. Had they not successfully lobbied to get US copyright extended Sherlock Holmes would have been completely in public domain before the first Great Ace Attorney came out. In Japan.

  • @specialnewb9821
    @specialnewb9821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ah yes, the Conan Doyle estate. Free riding parasites on their ancestor's success. I've been familiar with this idiocy for a while.
    Been a Lupin III fan for a long time!

  • @solarprogeny6736
    @solarprogeny6736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you cannot convince me it took years for them to switch up a few letters in a character's name. interesting tho

  • @Zeverinsen
    @Zeverinsen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn, the Ace Attorney puns are plentiful.
    I'll never *not* be waiting for Investigations 2 though...

    • @SolMasterzzz
      @SolMasterzzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Play the fan translation. It is as good as the official releases.

  • @mrmoustache1479
    @mrmoustache1479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well that was a suprisingly intriguing story.

  • @steakdriven
    @steakdriven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Objection! Watson and Holmes we're true friends long before the Great War what are these people smoking?

  • @khalel610
    @khalel610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's always workaround or a loop hole in rules. You just have to recognize and find it.

  • @waldoc2829
    @waldoc2829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Half the video I was wondering what this vid had anything to do with Great Ace Attorney, since Sherlock Holmes is nowhere to be seen in the entire game.

  • @shadowshibe5962
    @shadowshibe5962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the conclusion of this video just makes sense

  • @runningoncylinders3829
    @runningoncylinders3829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'll accept it as his funny dub name.

  • @derrickhaggard
    @derrickhaggard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm preordering the physical copy for my Switch Lite.

  • @migueltovar8167
    @migueltovar8167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Judge's POV:
    "Therefore, in presence of the evidence provided and the contradictions in testimonies found by the defense, I declare the defendant, Herlock Sholmes,
    *Not Guilty*
    Court is adjourned!" *hammer slam*

  • @LadyPrincessDiana
    @LadyPrincessDiana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In 3 months, all those years spent waiting will be rewarded

  • @CrabHead501
    @CrabHead501 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    tbh, it was known from the capcom gigaleak that tgaa will be annouced somewhere in april or may.

  • @LebrancConvas
    @LebrancConvas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hoping you to do the story of ZUN and his Touhou Project in the next video. :)

  • @M0D776
    @M0D776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    While I like Ace Attorney, I never knew of this game, so when I saw the name Herlock Sholmes I laughed sooo hard, it felt unreal af, it was hilarious, but it's good to know the real reason on why.

  • @gferrol118
    @gferrol118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This gives me hope that we will get an official translation of aai2

  • @masteroflight7296
    @masteroflight7296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Franchises like Mickey Mouse won’t ever go public domain due to trademark.
    People confuse the term “Copyright” and “Trademark”. Trademark is for Brands and franchises, Trademarks have no expiration date as long as the trademark holders keep renewing the licence.
    As for “copyright” These are used for specific works like Cartoon episode, books, music, etc.
    So when the copyright for Mickey Mouse runs out only the shorts that are older then the expiry date will be public domain. as long as Disney owns the trademark then the Mickey brand won’t be public domain, this goes with everything out there.

  • @munchwad
    @munchwad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Code Realize also did the Herlock Sholmes thing but had a 2015 release 😕

  • @lordroy88
    @lordroy88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve never played Ace Attorney in my life but I still enjoyed this video.

  • @burningrabbit7278
    @burningrabbit7278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Doyle Estate: "This character is protected by US copyright law!"
    Capcom localization team: "Hold my pen."

  • @DeftFunk
    @DeftFunk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:01 Ah, so that's why the Lupin III anime had a crossover movie with the Detective Conan Anime.

  • @silverflight01
    @silverflight01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you Leblanc for coming up with the idea to change up the name to Herlock Sholmes when your wrote that Arsène Lupin book.

  • @enelpenel6915
    @enelpenel6915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It makes me wonder how Aksys got away with Herlock Sholmès in Code Realize then?

  • @Kinra_Jade
    @Kinra_Jade 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ...Damnit, Herlock ! Even IRL, you mess things up !!!

  • @berylliosis5250
    @berylliosis5250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's a pretty absurd abuse of copyright. Like... just... no.

  • @tedjomuljono3052
    @tedjomuljono3052 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still waiting for the mobile port for Daigyakuten series & PW vs Layton

  • @youngblood7308
    @youngblood7308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel bad for Scarlet Study but I will always appreciate their hard work

    • @SolMasterzzz
      @SolMasterzzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They allowed me to play the first of these games a lot earlier than I would otherwise have been able to, so yes, I appreciate their hard work too! It was a fan translation almost on the level of the AAI2 one!

  • @snifey7694
    @snifey7694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like to imagine that sherlock cousin is this mate right there

  • @KeybladeMasterAndy
    @KeybladeMasterAndy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hot damn. That estate must be full of jerks.

    • @Nosidda
      @Nosidda 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sherlock Holmes has been their cash cow for generations. Once Sherlock Holmes falls into public domain, they basically lose almost, if not all, of their income. Naturally they're going to be brutal about making sure that doesn't happen, they want that cash money.

  • @JohnRDVSMarston
    @JohnRDVSMarston 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The localized version will probably have some references to LeBlanc's works just out of a victory lap

  • @lefandomtrash7746
    @lefandomtrash7746 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard that the final Sherlock Holmes stories becomes public domain in America on January 1, 2023. I hope it’s true but it’s also confusing because if Capcom was waiting for 2023, then I wonder what made them stop waiting.

  • @turtlie7309
    @turtlie7309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact: if I’m not mistaken, capcom is also part of the reason that weird localized jojo stand names exist. When they released their part 5 game, there was apparently some problems with the Prince song references which may have contributed to the cancellation of the international release. But this is kind of speculation so maybe I shouldn’t call it a “fun fact” lol

  • @Surfermario
    @Surfermario 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder what the reason is for ace attorney investigation 2 not being localized yet?

  • @user-fg9oy3uo3h
    @user-fg9oy3uo3h 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Makes you wonder why they never go with Herlock Sholmes in the first place then.
    No matter. Got 2 games to look forward to during the pandemic.

  • @wencyvirpoin6643
    @wencyvirpoin6643 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, Video Game Story Time! There seems to be an error on subtitles around 2:29, it should be "Sherlock Holmes is in the Public Domain"