The Truth about Klipsch’s “NEW” Sound. RP-600M Update.

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  • @ErinsAudioCorner
    @ErinsAudioCorner  2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

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    • @nagumaninagu9368
      @nagumaninagu9368 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sir please

    • @thiagodelgado3128
      @thiagodelgado3128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You Can Someday Review the klipsch thx? I would like to see If And How compares

    • @stephenyoud6125
      @stephenyoud6125 ปีที่แล้ว

      Erin, it would be great to see a Klippel analysis of one of Danny's upgrade / fixes on these models. from his CLIO measures his upgrade improves it a lot, but the Klippel clearly measures more. Amir's analysis showed the upgrade to be far superior. Would be great to get your assessment of Danny's system too if you can get down there and see/hear it

  • @L3x4Pr0ne
    @L3x4Pr0ne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just commenting for the YT algorithm. These reviews are way more valuable than anything else I’ve found.

  • @johnmd1970
    @johnmd1970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I modified my original RP-600Ms by changing the tweeter cap from 3.9uF to 10uF which eliminates the dip at about 1.5KHz. I also changed the resistor from 9.1 ohms to 13 ohms which lowers the treble by about 2.5 db. These changes are easy and inexpensive, depending on the type of cap you use.
    I recently purchase the RP-600Mii and I like the sound of my modified original RP-600Ms better. Punchier bass and more balanced.

    • @nextari
      @nextari 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That sounds amazing. Where did you learn that and parts? I see GR Research has a kit that's $300, kinda steep.

    • @MrWilander88
      @MrWilander88 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you please share details of the Mod if you don't mind.

    • @Richard-i3f4w
      @Richard-i3f4w 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MrWilander88 No (only because I haven't found it), but it is out there. Cost is about $60 per speaker.

    • @indigobaloon8091
      @indigobaloon8091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So you lowered the crossover frequency. Don't play too loud then, if you want them to keep.

  • @keepingupwiththejones2933
    @keepingupwiththejones2933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Just here to support my man Erin. Your reviews are more trusted than almost anyone in the industry.

  • @jsg1469
    @jsg1469 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ive owned the 600m for 2 years. They are very placement sensitive. I finally bi wired them for a fuller mid range and a slight toe in with the speaker grills left on. They sound tremendous. Using a 10" klipsch sub.

    • @Jeremy_810
      @Jeremy_810 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really like mine toed in and tilted up. Sound great standing or sitting without feeling the need to move them around constantly based on what I'm doing. The bass response I got after tilting them up surprised me. It doesn't disappear when I stand up anymore

  • @hideopalescent
    @hideopalescent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love that you included off-axis cea2034 data! Please do this in the future for any speaker where the designer recommends no or less toe-in. Your efforts are much appreciated.

  • @robg8963
    @robg8963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well done. Looks like a worthy contender in its price range especially for home theater.

  • @avh700
    @avh700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To me, Klipsch is a speaker that does well for transparent screens in theater projection, so it makes sense that the cover on the M II complements it. I will use M IIs as the mains and Ms as the surrounds.

  • @nonametofame
    @nonametofame 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    People go ape$hit over power amps that don't meet specs, but no one bats an eye when Klipsch claims 5-6+ db sensitivity in their specs over actual measured performance. I find that interesting.

    • @conduit242
      @conduit242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      9! One of the least efficient speakers you can buy…

    • @user-xg6zz8qs3q
      @user-xg6zz8qs3q 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyone uses a class A/B or D amp with lots of power.

    • @Dannyboy623
      @Dannyboy623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      85,86, maybe 87 db at best. Wow that’s a big difference than advertised. I’m a Klipsch fan but that’s really disappointing how misleading they are.

    • @JamesWilliams-gf8gm
      @JamesWilliams-gf8gm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I won a pair of Klipsch RP8000F and revel 228be. Based on my McIntosh 462 meters the revels use less power for the same volume. The revels are rated at 90db.

    • @sebastianejlertsen3118
      @sebastianejlertsen3118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Klipsch have Said themselves they use in room measurments.

  • @falvegas511
    @falvegas511 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks!

  • @ibleebinU
    @ibleebinU 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    By far, the most informative and objective reviews. You make the others look like ameteurs.

  • @johnrus7661
    @johnrus7661 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good review, I've demoed it in a fairly large room and very impressed for the money and how well it could preasurize the room. Had no glarring issues and was played out of a $2200 NAD streamer, DAC and integrated amp combo unit.
    It was a excellent listning experience.
    I think i could use a sub for the maximum bass extension. But thats to be expected with a bookshelf.
    I'm probably gonna pick one up.

  • @Jon-nz3dm
    @Jon-nz3dm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for getting this out so quickly! I've been curious about these since the usual subjective only reviews came out.

  • @jked7463
    @jked7463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The main improvement of the larger horn provides better control down lower than the smaller horn. The smaller horn to flat baffle to box edge is a more gradual change to the side box walls than the vii which jumps right from horn to box side walls.

  • @paulgyro
    @paulgyro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice! Jumping ahead of the pack with your objective review.

  • @damianzaninovich4900
    @damianzaninovich4900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nice job. Real sensitivity data not just taking the manufacturer’s spec and parroting it. Also honesty about bass from a bookshelf speaker. People that say they have much bass below about 60 or 80hz are delusional. Thanks again.

    • @damianzaninovich4900
      @damianzaninovich4900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they look great, the new horn and rear terminals. I like the Klipsch sound. I had the 160m’s which are a little bigger. I liked them but I like my Canton 7’s better(not really a fair comparison). I’d be more interested in the 6000m towers in piano black if they decide to eventually produce those. I love the Klipsch sound to be clear and could live with them if I didn’t already have the Cantons.

  • @pkdude5334
    @pkdude5334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had the rp600 for a few weeks. They were fatiguing. Very harsh. Sent them back and went with Elac dbr62's and never looked back.

  • @sears62
    @sears62 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use these as computer speakers believe it or not, desk is pulled away from the wall a bit, and paired with a mid tier NAD class D amp. Sounds good at lower volume at night and they can really fill a room when away from the desk. I listen to all genres of music and play some FPS games and it works out great. No regrets.

  • @xavdeman
    @xavdeman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:45 that void in the V1 frequency response looks terrible.

  • @falvegas511
    @falvegas511 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These genuine Technical Measurements of True Speaker Performance are what we appreciate; it indicates "Responsibility" and not just Blah, Blah, Blah this is what we think crap.

    • @klepp19
      @klepp19 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I agree you need data to back up your listening evaluation!

  • @seanb3303
    @seanb3303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice review I prefer the JBL 530 to the original 600M. I hope people use your affiliate link you earned it. I will use it for my next sock purchase.

  • @juanmillaruelo7647
    @juanmillaruelo7647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A balanced Klipsch. And wider treble dispersion. This is a better speaker.

  • @swllz
    @swllz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As always, prefer your reviews over others due to the substances (measurements) you provide. Klipsch stated that they made voice coil for woofer 60% bigger. It also looks from your side by side picture the new woofer cone is slightly bigger.
    Both Robinson and Guttenberg both praised v2. Dynamics is the major attribute that both of them praised for both v1 and v2, is that a characteristics that Klipsch has over other speakers? Robinson also provided a FR curve for his v2 assessment without any explanation.
    Guttenberg is a good salesman, his praise for v1 helped Klipsch sold more v1. Klipsch may send him v2 for review.

    • @RennieAsh
      @RennieAsh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the woofer appears larger because the chamfer which starts at the top of the cabinet now extends all the way to the bottom on V2, where on V1 it fades out to a sharp edge.
      They do this because the new waveguide is larger, and having the old V1 design would look messy

    • @swllz
      @swllz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      According to Erin's measurements of THD, v2 is 8 db cleaner that v1 at 500 to 600hz region when playing at 86 and 96 db loudness, that's an improvement of woofer, even if not every one can hear it.

    • @veeclash4157
      @veeclash4157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@swllz There's a noticeable dip in V1, that's no secret. It's nice that V2 fixes this, the real question is does that fix in the dip worth upgrading to brand new speakers.

  • @midevil1980
    @midevil1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would love to see a review and measurements on the RP-504C II, especially since I still can't find anything on the first version either... I have a 5.2.2 RP-8000F, RP-504C, RP502S, Prime Elevation, 2x SB-3000's, setup run by a Marantz AVR currently. I think I'd be most interested in the difference for the new center channel first, in hopes that it would make voices and everything else sound even more natural, and hopefully even improve the dispersion and response a bit... I would even be willing to possibly front the cost to buy and ship it from Audio Advice or somewhere similar just to have it measured and reviewed for the internet to see. 🍻

  • @seanb3303
    @seanb3303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well according to my Uncle Danny ripping out the crossover and replacing those cheezy parts will increase clarity.

  • @falvegas511
    @falvegas511 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Outstanding presentation on the 600 M 11's. You confirmed "Technically" what we thought Klipsch was trying to achieve with the Upgrade....It's Smart to broaden thee "Mains".

  • @IliyaOsnovikov
    @IliyaOsnovikov 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Erin, I wouldn't say that distortion is pretty much the same. The newer model has significantly lower distortion thru the most of a woofer range. For example, at 600 Hz the first speaker has THD about -35 dB, but the second has about 10 dB lower distortion at that frequency.

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They’re not exactly miles apart here, though. And overall, they’re similar enough for it not to be a deciding factor.

    • @swllz
      @swllz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Klipsch stated that the woofer voice coil is 60% larger, it looks to me for Erin's picture, the woofer area is a bit larger, that may explain to lower distortion from woofer

  • @FSXgta
    @FSXgta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I don't understand why Klipsch still can't list the real sensitivity numbers...

    • @BastianUllr
      @BastianUllr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Because they will lose sales? It’s on papers, it’s sales leverage. It’s like high pixel count on small sensors. It sells, doesn’t it? Yeah, we are dumb and that makes us “happy”

    • @JAYWHITEHITHARD
      @JAYWHITEHITHARD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BastianUllr I know about sensitivity, but i still like klipsch sound🙈

  • @Deke1
    @Deke1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the Rp-600M speakers are great for rock music paired with a NAD and dedicated sub is hard to beat

  • @ekimandersom4478
    @ekimandersom4478 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The perfect moment to get a great deal on the old version.
    I doubt the difference in sound is huge.

  • @brianchristopher4666
    @brianchristopher4666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think these speakers, and likely especially the larger dual woofer center channel versions of these, would do quite well behind a large acoustically transparent projection screen, maintaining dynamics and efficiency, overall enough detail for movies, etc

  • @joesabato9736
    @joesabato9736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good review, the better linearity was noted in other reviews, so you are on the same page in that regard. Previous reviews I saw on the 500 with measurements said it did not have the dip that the 600 and others in the series 1 had; it was the most linear out of the box, FYI. The RP600 and the predecessor RP160 were wildly popular, not sure the 5" version was anywhere close.

    • @caioferrari
      @caioferrari 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where did you see measurements on 500’s?

  • @falvegas511
    @falvegas511 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    -BEST Technical Presentation as Yet on the Klipsch 600M II. You confirmed Technically what we "thought" was going on with the 600M's. The response is essentially more "FLAT", No Dip where the Tweeter Takes Over --- essentially it's a True Main Speaker and the Broader 'Horn" makes the Higher Freq's less Directional in a Room. We happen to like that --- Klipsch HORNS are Great Tweeters, bit on Bright Side, However, WHEN WE SEE A C-8 NOTE (4800 HZ) ON A PIANO...WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR, THUNK! i HAVE 19 YEAR OLD KLIPSCH MAINS WITH HORN TWEETERS, AND WOULDN'T GO ANY OTHER WAY. AND I love that they're "Broadened The Room Acoustics" with RP-600M'S, made the Highs less directional. Thinking of an Upgrade...It's time.

  • @denniszhu7957
    @denniszhu7957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Erin, did you mention if the speaker grills were on or off in the second measurement with EQ applied? Again thank you for your work!

  • @junsantos9629
    @junsantos9629 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review, Erin! Thanks!

  • @Simon_Hawkshaw
    @Simon_Hawkshaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank for your informative and helpful review.

  • @craigenputtock
    @craigenputtock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can you show us the crossover new vs old?

  • @martinarrieta4536
    @martinarrieta4536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think it’s rough to upgrade to the V2 so soon after release as you’re paying full MSRP and Klipsch are imo good bang for your Buck speakers due to their constant sales like the RP600M V1 being obtainable at $350/pair. But $750/pair for the V2? That’d make me consider going for something else.

    • @xavdeman
      @xavdeman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      These speakers are for the hard of hearing like Mcintosh.

    • @hoobsgroove
      @hoobsgroove 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      scam alert!!!

  • @GadgetryTech
    @GadgetryTech 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job as always Erin.

  • @steverosales2616
    @steverosales2616 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good Advise on listening with the covers, smooths out response 👍

  • @JoshuaPeters3036
    @JoshuaPeters3036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used to have the version one and four music it sounded really good. The only reason I switch from those speakers is because a high percentage of my listening in the room they were in his home theater and an extreme dynamic situation they got harsh. In all Barron and it was the 8000 series powers that really got harsh considering they were the LCRs. These were my sides around so it wasn’t as noticeable.With how good the version one was for music I would like to hear the version twos.

  • @garyausten5939
    @garyausten5939 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any idea what the best placement of these speakers are? Tweeters straight ahead or pointed towards the listener? I replaced a pair of Polk satellites with these (huge difference...about 8x the cabinet volume!)

  • @Adrian-jh5cr
    @Adrian-jh5cr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've had the older rp160m they were the model before it was renamed the 600 for scream years now. I now own the 600ii and if you have the 160s no brainer easy upgrade! I was not able to compare them with the 600s. I've only had these a bit and I do like the sound they are bright but I'm sure with some time they will settle down. My 160s were the same way and now the sound good but nothing like these new ones. If you are on the fence I highly recommend them. Got them on sale for 419.

  • @kovacsgergely83
    @kovacsgergely83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi Erin, great review with great data as always. I'd also be interested in the review of the RP-500M II and also the RP-500C II & RP-504C II centers. ;)

  • @pkhammu2005
    @pkhammu2005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work u doing Erin, initially i thought u were arrogant,but once i started following u and seen ur ok old videos,now i see u as a no nonsense sensible youtuber 👍

  • @biggchinoxxl
    @biggchinoxxl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    500m I was 250 on sale (maybe close out on adorama) , and a review of the 500m II would be greatly appreciated to understand if it better to get the old one at the sale price or get the new one at MSRP/ Or wait for the new to go on sale.

  • @RanTausi
    @RanTausi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Appreciate your video , thanks a lot. ❤
    I would like to see deep unboxing of the mk2 version , I am interesting to see if they upgrade and used better parts in the crossover and the internal bracing, as the original RP600M used the same cheap crossover as the RP160 , and the internal box did not have any bracing. Thanks

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ll see what I can do. But my time is very limited so don’t count on it. Plus, I need to try to sell these off to recoup my costs.

  • @rojithstanly9125
    @rojithstanly9125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi there, sorry new to audio in general but how do you manually add equalisation adjustments?

  • @rli3651
    @rli3651 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding! Thank you

  • @jeffreybritton3338
    @jeffreybritton3338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would like to see a review of the Klipsch 500Mii.
    Also Wharfedale 12.2

  • @Torulv
    @Torulv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it normal to enjoy v-shaped frequency response? ASR claims that people enjoy a flat response the most. Now I have tried flat speakers, but if I EQ down 500hz to about 1500-2000 down a bit and boost the highs and lows a bit i I get a sense of clarity and higher realism.
    I never set out to boost the frequencies like that, it just ended up doing that by trial and error knowing little about speakers. When I hear speakers like RP-600M, i tend to enjoy them immediatley, I looked up the frequency response after having listened and low and behold it didjnt have a flat EQ, it has lower values where I usually lower the frequencies on flat speakers and boosted highs... Not sure what to think... Although bright and they will hurt my ears, I can EQ the highs off when I need that...

  • @jasong546
    @jasong546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All I know is I am listening to the newest Chris Stapleton vinyl album on the m’s and it’s glorious. I don’t know why I would possibly need to upgrade because they sound fantastic.

  • @Mat-hr1dg
    @Mat-hr1dg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I found it strange and interesting that in all marketing material, the new models were shown towed out, back straight to the wall. They never marketed any prior speaker that way.
    Seeing your data I'm intrigued and wonder if that might have been intentional.

  • @pedecia
    @pedecia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having to find always equalizers to increase highs in all existent speakers I hope those will work out of the box and without the need of an equalizer..... I love V shape sound.... I have a 300W per channel power amp and double subwoofers so don't care about sensitivity.... I will make them sing like Pavarotti on a C flat note....

  • @avnut5517
    @avnut5517 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the detailed review. Thank you!

  • @TeressaWI8777
    @TeressaWI8777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video again! After watching many of your videos, I still don’t know what type of processor that you have? Please share

  • @davidcarr2216
    @davidcarr2216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Erin, you're the best speaker reviewer in the game and then some.

  • @DBravo29er
    @DBravo29er 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great review! Again, your listening impressions of the first version mirror my own... lending great confidence that your impressions of V2 also will. And, GSD's are the best! I love mine too! 😍👍☺️

  • @dagreatstoney.5869
    @dagreatstoney.5869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Eric.
    Very good review.
    Thank u.

  • @Utahraptor110
    @Utahraptor110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome review! How would these series compare to the Kef Q and R series?

  • @PartySpock
    @PartySpock ปีที่แล้ว

    The Klipsch RP 600 M with the Reisong A10 is TOP. 👍👍Thank you

  • @BryanRuby
    @BryanRuby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great review Erin. I for one am pretty happy with the original RP-600M and likely to keep them around for a long time (using them mainly for music listening). For their price, I think I'd rather not spend the money for a next generation upgrade but perhaps something put that money elsewhere. Sort of thinking along the lines of the KLH Model 5 or another floorstanding speaker over the bookshelf speakers. Either way, I'm liking the fact that your review as well as others are delivering a message that while the RP-600M II are an improvement over the original version, the original RP-600M still has a lot going for it.

    • @bobby1970
      @bobby1970 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @JtagPabb1e What MLP?

    • @j.craigh.3480
      @j.craigh.3480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      MLP - main listening position

  • @josenevarez5870
    @josenevarez5870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Emotiva B1+ or Klipsch RP-600M II?

  • @VinylsFinal
    @VinylsFinal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, I bought RP-600M about 5 years ago. Last week I was blasting some house music really loud through a cambridge audio streamer. My listening room is small square, as in 12ft x 12ft. I sit 7.5ft away from the speakers in a couch. The speakers are on a tv stand 2.5ft apart from eachother and 4.5" away from the wall.
    The Left cabinet woofer is dead. Tweeter is working. I removed the woofer to see the cone is almost separated and when I push it in and out I hear grinding/scratchy sound. I also noted after taking off the grill, there are dimples on the gold coloured centre area of the woofer. I am very sad to see this happen and seek your advice.
    My hifi setup is fairly a complex one. I have 3 dbx sound processors going into a Hitachi preamp which goes to a NAD 2200 Envelope Power Amp. With the help of a switch, I also can toggle between the NAD amp and a Marantz 250M power amp. What I think I've done is while engaging and disengaging different bass boost settings in the 3 dbx sound processors, I've put too much load onbthe speakers. I am not a techy guy, just assuming.
    Would you recommend I buy RP-600M II and just be careful before boasting frequencies while volume is loud or search for a new replacement woofer.
    Appreciate if you could kindly give me some direction. Loved watching your video. Thanks.

  • @pgasper1
    @pgasper1 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great detailed video!

  • @fubartotale3389
    @fubartotale3389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder if you could test some of the popular kit speakers, like the Parts Express Tri Trix, for example.

  • @Feliciano12v
    @Feliciano12v 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great review. Enjoyed the comparison with measurements. Question, how does the 600M V2 model compare to something like Elac uni or Keff with concentric driver regarding soundstage?

    • @BastianUllr
      @BastianUllr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’m big fan of dual concentric and I’ve had Kef, Tannoy, Fyne, and Technics. I still have concentrics and regular. Why? Because I can haha, but concentrics have a really nice imaging accuracy. Even at low volumes. They shine if you have to sit close to them. If you sit far, they are much more alike other speakers as long as it’s well designed for dispersion between tweeter and woofer. It’s not a must, but it’s nice. I still have a dual concentric.
      Concentrics have a nice dispersion pattern, but directivity changes with design and that alters the Interaction with the room, which alters the psychoacoustic perception, which alters the imaging perception. It depends of what room you have and what would work best in your room.

  • @marktekk4982
    @marktekk4982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Erin ever thought of doing something like top 10 in ear room response speakers on your site ? So we could easily sort the cream from the crop. Or maybe something like a graph comparison tool, where we could compare different speaker measurements directly on the site ? If you keep going at this rate, there is soon gonna come a time, when there will simply be too many speakers to go through on the site, to find that good one with great all around measurments. Or maybe some sort of scoring system, i don't know. An active and passive category for loudspeakers and subwoofer would really come in handy too. I'm just thinking out loud here and forgive me for going offtopic. I did enjoy the review like always :)

  • @JadeB628
    @JadeB628 ปีที่แล้ว

    OK. I appricaite your assement of the RP=M II. got just have one question. at the time you made the video. those were priced around $749. now they're $649. they were on sale but I missed it.
    do think $649 is fair? or wait for a sale? Thanks

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, that seems fair.

    • @JadeB628
      @JadeB628 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ErinsAudioCorner Thanks a bunch

  • @FHGwood
    @FHGwood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Curious to know your thoughts of the V2 v/s SVS Ultra Bookshelves

  • @tansanite09
    @tansanite09 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do the 600m i/ii compare to the rb-81ii ? Sadly klipsch stopped the 8“ … for surround the rb81 are better because of closed back ? Thanks

  • @truthhunter4270
    @truthhunter4270 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the best surround back speakers to get? I have a klipsch setup in a 18’X25’ room.

  • @veeclash4157
    @veeclash4157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you recommend a good equalizer that can apply the eq curve that you generated? What gear did you use?

  • @mistyluv261
    @mistyluv261 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    advice please: i plan to upgrade a 10 year old plasma to a 4k tv. i have an old yamaha rxv675 reciever. do you think dolby atmos speakers are necessary or will these 600m 2s w a center speaker and sub do the job. i live in a small one bedroom apartment so i can't really max out on volume. i also wonder if it is necessary to get two satellite speakers. thank you!

  • @henryquezada8482
    @henryquezada8482 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, RP-600Mii or RP-8000f
    which on is better

  • @jeffharvey6693
    @jeffharvey6693 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your review. When you say "I recommend turning the speaker about 20° out (facing out into the room)" do you mean turning them out toward the nearest sidewalls or in toward the listening position?

  • @ta563
    @ta563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always feel bad for the companies that are honest in their specs because I'm sure they lose a lot of sales to companies that make up specs.
    With these actually being at 85-86dB how many real 89dB speakers aren't even considered when people are looking for efficient speakers?

  • @rob9019
    @rob9019 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great video. I had version 1 however sold them and now planning to buy Arendal 1723 S bookshelf. How would you describe the sound difference between the two since both speakers are more for home theatre and then music? THanks again.

  • @conduit242
    @conduit242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    WOW am I seeing that right? Actual measured sensitivity is 83db at 1khz??? That’s 11db below the advertised specs! Criminal!

  • @kevinwest1607
    @kevinwest1607 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review Erin.

  • @dougnichols3358
    @dougnichols3358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Graphic equalizer?

  • @MrWilander88
    @MrWilander88 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the differience in the sensitivity a trade off?

  • @scottlowell493
    @scottlowell493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had the rp600m1's, I got them after the hype online. Turns out, the drop off in the midrange was obvious as it lacked detail and presence of certain instruments in that 2k range. I surmised the hype was due to the reviewer being a casual listener that didn't listen to a variety of music. I sold mine.

    • @leofurda
      @leofurda 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And what did you buy instead?

    • @scottlowell493
      @scottlowell493 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leofurda better speakers from a different brand.

    • @leofurda
      @leofurda 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scottlowell493 I had over the last years more phases of trying and comparing speakers. I brought home different brands and compared between them, so I was curious which one you picked eventually.

    • @scottlowell493
      @scottlowell493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leofurda The reason I avoid these answers is that outside of measurements, there is the subjectivity. FWIW: the 600MII are a big improvement over my old 600M.

    • @leofurda
      @leofurda 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scottlowell493 no, I'm not here to discuss your taste and sound preferences. I'm a musician myself and like to enjoy a good sound. I don't afford the expensive flagships, but I preferred the Klipsch RP-160M overall over more expensive brands in that category. At least for classical music, the high tones are almost unbeatable and overall very honest to the reality. Elac are also fantastic speakers.

  • @gaborszabo2880
    @gaborszabo2880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THX for the review!!! Please I would like a review of the RP-500M II!!!

  • @bacnguyen8352
    @bacnguyen8352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a 404c vs 404c ii comparison would be awesome because they are the most different in size and ported vs sealed

    • @hoth2112
      @hoth2112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope the newer versions are a 2.5-way, cuz the original 504C was a mess in the horizontal off-axis

  • @bo7amod82
    @bo7amod82 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks For the review witch on world you recommend to use for hight channel’s??

  • @dperr338
    @dperr338 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So would the sensitivity ratings from Klipsch be more accurate when crossing these over at 80 hz with a subwoofer? If more bass is being ran through a smaller driver would that change if your not even running those lows to the speaker.

  • @michaeltoste8871
    @michaeltoste8871 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you think the rp600m would pair with an old marantz 2218?

  • @MRPC5
    @MRPC5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, by towing out do you mean 0 degrees points at my face or 0 degrees is perpendicular to the front wall?

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      0 degrees is on-axis; the speaker facing directly at you. The speaker facing out into the room (not cross-firing across the side of the room) is what I mean when I say "toe-out". :)

  • @dafish-ye3ig
    @dafish-ye3ig ปีที่แล้ว

    Would the 600m pair well with a Harmon Karden 330c?

  • @bryansu
    @bryansu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video.

  • @paulcottingham241
    @paulcottingham241 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be interesting to see a review on the older 8 inch Klipsch bookshelves like the RB-81 to see how the low end and sensitivity are affected with an 8 inch woofer.

  • @keegans2338
    @keegans2338 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you like these compared to Polk ES15?

  • @BrendonHeld
    @BrendonHeld 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thanks for all your hard work on this Erin, this was really interesting and very helpful. I would actually be interested in a RP-500M v1 vs. v2 comparison if you can swing it, and I would also be interested in how they compare to the 600M's, as I am considering these for my surround and rear surrounds speakers. The 600M's are a bit big to mount on my walls, but also don't want to lose any performance going for the 500M's... So I hope Audio Advice is able to hook you up... ;-)

    • @dawolyan13
      @dawolyan13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think the 500 is the better speaker all around over the orig. 600.🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @caioferrari
      @caioferrari 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too

    • @1L3g3nd
      @1L3g3nd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I don’t think you’re see the full potential of a speaker when it’s used as a surround speaker. In that use case, you’ll just be wasting money on the 600. Get the 500 or even a 400. Fronts/mains is a different story

    • @BrendonHeld
      @BrendonHeld 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I think you guys are right... and of course the more practical solution would be the RP-500SA's, as they would mount better on the wall and take a lot less space, but there again... I'm worried I might be missing something with the smaller form factor... how do you guys feel about the RP-500SA's instead of the 500 or 400M's? For what it's worth, I have the RP-8000's and RP-504C for the front stage...

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      500’s are on their way. Courtesy of Audio Advice!

  • @KillerSneak
    @KillerSneak 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m saving up for a new system. Would these speakers be good functioning as atmos speakers? I’m going for a system with 2x 8000F II / 1x 504C II center / 4x 502S II for sides and back surrounds.. in ceiling isn’t an option for my house so I’ll be hanging these from the ceiling (with braces) thanks in advance.

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I encourage you to purchase your speakers from a retailer that will allow you to return them if you don't like them.

    • @KillerSneak
      @KillerSneak 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ErinsAudioCorner that won’t be a problem in my country (The Netherlands) return policies are well enforced and are a consumer “right” here 👍

  • @rikardekvall3433
    @rikardekvall3433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review, as always. How long burn in with the MK2, before the test? Could you let the speakers play for 3-400 hours and then measure again? Interesting to see what changes.

    • @Azzy_Mazzy
      @Azzy_Mazzy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually its recommended to let the speakers play for three years before truly giving them a review

    • @rikardekvall3433
      @rikardekvall3433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Azzy_Mazzy Then we get a loooooong review.😉

    • @FSXgta
      @FSXgta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      To be honest, the only thing burning in is woofers and the difference is small. Maybe it goes 1-2hz lower but that's hard to notice

    • @rikardekvall3433
      @rikardekvall3433 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FSXgta Might be so little, but don’t forget the crossover parts. If they use quality parts.

  • @jefferycostner2636
    @jefferycostner2636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    RP 500ii would be a great review for me. Thanks

  • @TylerStout
    @TylerStout 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice review. I did watch Andrews review and from what I remember he made it sound like the treble was more subdued than it appears in the data, think he's more referring to that 7khz region. He liked the speaker a lot more than the v1. His reviews have the chapter markers so you could just watch the part relating the sound which appears to be only about 5 minutes.
    Enjoyed a lot of the different data that you provided for this. Is it possible you could include multiple estimated in room responses for more speakers in the future as 0, 15, 30 I think would be very interesting to see.
    Also I'd rather see their center channels measured over the smaller bookshelf. So my vote would be rp600c v2 and rp500c v2 over rp500m v1 and rp500m be. Waveguide/horn mtm centers are kinda of the gray area from your center channel video (which was excellent) so more data and that I think would be helpful for the community moreso than seeing the 5" bookshelf.

    • @geo1033
      @geo1033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This.. id rather see center channels being reviewed than rp500m

    • @ErinsAudioCorner
      @ErinsAudioCorner  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’ll see about testing their center channels.

    • @TylerStout
      @TylerStout 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ErinsAudioCorner awesome, appreciate the work you do for us!

  • @andrewforsythe7240
    @andrewforsythe7240 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good review. Thank you.

  • @jaguar2164
    @jaguar2164 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    which do you think is better, these or the Dali Oberon3?