Best Factory Survival Knife! This might be gone forever! Lionsteel T6 K490
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We got a first hands on on the Lionsteel T6 on the IWA. it uses K490! a Steel we have never tried.
First looks were promising! A sturdy high quality survival knife we thought... well! we finally got out hands on it to try it out for ourselves!
If you're thinking of grabbing on you might have to be fast.. as k490 is hard to get this might just be the only batch in this steel.
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Yet another great video one of my favorite EDC knives is a victorinox swiss flame I've had it for years and it's still going strong great around camp and can handle cold weather plus high altitude the perfect multi use backup knife
You guys should have tried the pommel area of the tang for striking fire steel, like the last lion steel you tested. It’s supposed to be a crisp spine there.
Really nice videos, guys. Thank you for review of knife i've been looking forward to buy. No hesitation for me now!
They are only found by me one at Dlt trading and eBay. One commenter had his T6 tested at 64HRc! I hope mine is too! It will come this week. I'm getting a bushcrafter sheath for it which is snug for Becker BK2, but it might work! JRE industries model U sheath.
I love LionSteel. I have an M4, 2x M5’s and a T5, and they’re all outstanding knives, really love them. And now the T6 is very much on my shortlist!! Cheers guys, another mental video, very much appreciated 👍🏻
You should try Saturn Knives made by Lionsteel, designed by Molletta!
IMO lionsteel along with TRC are the best production knives available at the moment. I've only ever had their fixed blades but every one has been outstanding and for those of us who suffer with knife OCD every one has come flawless... and I mean flawless... and this is coming from a guy who can spend an entire evening inspecting a knife (oh OK... several evenings) trust me they fully deserved their blade show awards.
@@mrdarren1045lion steel seems to do much better on their fixed blades and the heat treat on them than their folders tbh, they do good quality folders but soft heat treats
I love how the “Star-spangled Banner” started playing as soon as you started to shoot the knife with the gun! Heck yeah! Murica!
Oh shit so this is the special thing you got at the con. Holy crap thats super exciting. Looks like 490 will better rebound than the 390, easily smoothing any issues right back out
K490 is pretty much 3V with an extra 3% tungsten added, and that kinda tracks with what you guys found-- Very tough like 3V, improved edge retention , but not much harder to sharpen. The Vanadium is close, the Molybdenum is close, the Chromium is close, the carbon is higher to make more carbides with the extra Tungsten. I just wish this knife wasn't so crazy in price compared to the T-5 and M-7
Yes, it's nearly perfect, but neither is the price.
It is only 259 usd on blade hq. That is right in line with the M7 which is around 220-230
@@mikepalma8083 $440 Cad, for a T6, same outlet, $330 for an M7, 240 for a T5.
@@scotscheideman9800 wow that is a big difference apologize I saw it on blade hq for $259 other stores were like $ 280+
@@mikepalma8083T5 ->159€, M7 -> 209,95€, T6 ->320€ at "Knive and Tools", which is an really perfect Shop for Knive lovers and other stuff in Europe. The prices are often the best you can find, the service also. Love this Shop very much! 👍
Great Review! That being said, you Guy’s need to check out Reiff Knives F6 Leuku Survival Knife! Just bought one and this thing is a panty dropper! It is incredible, the quality, impeccable!
I love k390 I want to try the k490 so bad I need to win this one I’ve never won anything after watching you guys all these years
Oh so this is why there are so many vomments? Dbk are just paid actors.... I was thinking there is so much hype about the knife, but it is only another giveaway so everyone make comments
Diamond stones aren’t too expensive these days, so certainly K390, is easy to sharpen. I use a Worksharp Precision Adjust for my K390 Spydercos without any problems. You might need full sized plates for a knife this big though.
I really like the Spyderco Police.
This steel ok for little blade good cut , more resistence to deformation and abrasion but not good for the impact more chip of the Sleipner or Niolox....
Interesting! I'd like to learn for myself how much it bears out, but I believe you, it's just a matter of how much
Here from USA 🇺🇸
Great vid DBK boyss
bedankt guus!
Love the Nerd talk, though I am still learning about the whole metallurgy thing. It looks like an awesome knife and steel. The usual tradeoffs, in price of nearly $300, and a tad hard to sharpen. Thanks guys great review.
So far I have the M1, M4, M2M, B41 fixed blades and a few of their folders and I've come to the conclusion that Lionsteel just makes really good knives. I'm digging this blade as well and will definitely be picking one up... Great video as always keepem coming guys!!!
I have the B41 also and I love it. Especially the ergos. It just feels so natural. It melts into my hand in almost every grip. It's also the perfect size for all round camping and hiking tasks.
Dangg i love dbk you guys rock
That lionsteel seems pretty sick. I wonder what HRC they're running it at. I'm tempted to get my hands on one and test it. Great video guys!
They probably wont make a next batch of them. next will be in 3v as the k490 was hard to get.
It's definitely and interesting steel. But If you want to get the most out of it a custom knife maker like malanika should try and make a knife out of it.
I think for the price lionsteel did a really good job here though.
Probably 60hrc. They don't care about performance. They sell knives on bill of materials instead of heat treat and performance.
@@tacticalcenter8658 you're probably right, lower HT also means lower temps, so lower energy costs and longer element life and less abrasive costs grinding. Doubt it's hard enough to worth buying over a custom
@@stroppystuff641 they could do it right. They choose to make money off the name. Aka advertising and marketing. They should use the correct steel and heat treat... Instead they want to trick people to make money. They do it with m390 also. Its bad.
@@tacticalcenter8658 how do you come to the assumption, that lionsteel don't do their ht properly, and just want to make money? My Lionsteel is actually one of the best factory knifes out of the box in my collection, and performs, and from what I've heard about the M4 M390, they seem to do a good job on M390 as well. Apart from that, they have fair pricing on fixed blades.
With that worksharp you can easily put a sharp spine on the knife if scraping a ferro rod is important to you. It would only take 2 or 3 passes on the top roller.
very true
What about the flat on the end of the handle it's like the other lionsteel knife
I would love to see you guys test the winkler woodsman, see how the 80CrV2 steel holds up to the other 80CrV2 you already tested, the jimping strikes a fire steel quite nicely despite the knife being coated, and the shape/overall design is pretty unique. Winkler has a legendary reputation for making military oriented knives, I carry one all the time and am interested to see how their “woodsman” model does in in your hands at bushcraft/survival tasks.
@Megalomaan hahahaha you’re like the first person to ever point out my last name means shrimp, it also means leg in Italian apparently
Why dont you send them one to test...?
@@yankee23a because it’s my user knife, I wouldn’t be very happy out in the field without my knife on my belt.
@@andresgamba1478 Sure...I get that...but Im sure theres plenty of people with plenty requests.....where do the knives thay are tested come from ?
@@yankee23aHowever they can get them. They’re too hard on them usually to have them sent in as loaners so they usually buy them with profit streams from the channel or are given promotional review samples by manufacturers and/or retailers.
Really want to see a video on the T5.
As most of the trade is done online, I really miss opportunity to see, feel, hold and try my next collection item. I wouldn't have many inhibitions of buying a high price knife if I bonded with it in a store or on an exhibition. I'd love to have more info about places like fairs or large stores, that allow to see and hold the objects of our desire before buying them.
Pretty sure you use the portion at the end to spark a fire steel, not the blade. That’s what I use in my Lionsteels anyway.
I already bought this from The Knife Connection. LionSteel is an incredible knife brand.
You bloody bastards… I was tempted yesterday and couldn’t decide… now I have one coming
please do the BRADFORD GAURDIAN 4.5 in 3v
This episode in particular will always resonate with me. It is because on THIS day I received my DBK knife and it is freakin' BEAUTIFUL.
Thanks DBK!
glad to hear it John!
It is such a great knife. Comfortable to use, it looks beautiful, and mine was exceedingly sharp right out of the box. DBK + TRC = a damn good knife. I’m glad it has arrived safely for you 👍🏻
They are sharp. When putting the DBK knife back into the sheath I cut right through it. 😬
Cheers!
I should probably see the whole video before I comment, but to me K490 looks more like a less stain resistant M390. They have removed some chromium and added a little tungsten. The magic in K390 is the high vanadium content, and K490 is just not comparable in that regard.
It'll have less wear resistance but way more toughness than k390. K490 is more similar to M4, it has a bit more Cr for better corrosion resistance but less Tungsten (though tungsten is so heavy that it barely makes a difference plus it's not a good carbide former) and Moly. It'll be more corrosion resistant and have higher toughness but slightly lower wear resistance than M4. Sounds pretty good in my book. For a 6 inch "survival"/heavy duty knife k490 is a much better choice than k390. For a smaller fixed blade or folder k390 is probably better because it'll have better wear resistance. But if you bring it really thin (5-10 thou bte) k490 might be a better choice if you're not used to thin grinds since it can take more abuse.
I've been wanting to try k490 for years but so far this is the first knife in it and I'm not sure this is the form factor I want to try it in.
I had that same experience with wasps when I was a kid. Those mf's will follow you; their sting tags you with 'bad guy' pheromones. Knife looks pretty good. Thanks for the look!
I got stung five times by hornets after watching this video yesterday!!!! YIKES!
I thought MagnaCut was supposed to be the be all and end all of knife steels??????
@Joël I only have one knife in MagnaCut (BRK Bushcraft Scout) and I really haven't used it all that much. It seems like every other week someone is hyping a new steel. The only steel that has impressed me lately is the CruWear on the PM2 micarta that Spyderco released a little while back. For $180 that's a lot of bang for the buck.
The Work Sharp is perfect...if it works.
Unfortunately last Week the second one I got was dead to me. Both times the same fault. The transformer electronics in the connection cable went off in smoke. The first one was replaced by warranty and I was happy, but now i don't trust it anymore. I will buy something more professional.
Hi A.W. Sorry to hear about your experience. The only time we see motor malfunction is if the unit is plugged into the wrong power supply. For example a version intended for the US but used in Europe (even with a converter) will fail almost immediately. It's important to buy the sharpener in the place you plan to use it. That being said I am confident we will replace your machine again if it is experiencing any sort of malfunction. Every item we make has a 3 year warranty.
@@WorkSharpOutdoor Hi, that is really great.
But the motor and everything else is absolute intact. I live in Germany and bought it here. There is a converter in the connection cable. I think because of our power supply that has 230V/50Hz. Like nearly everywhere in Europe. And this converter went off in smoke. Do you think it's possible to only get a new connection cable with the converter in it? I don't like to send the whole machine for warranty, because only the converter in the connection cable is defect.
You're supposed to use the pommel to scrape the fire steel.
Tried that and it didnt work
The blade grinder accessory is impossibly affordable and gives mirror polished bevels with the included belts. Razor sharp? Ask my very coarse arm hair! Its a flat out winner
Hello everyone, just a question. If you have to choose between T6 with k490 steel or T6 with CPM 3V steel, which would you choose? Could you explain why? Many thanks in advance for your answers which will help me in my choice.
Personality id go with k490 since it's unique. K490 should have a bit better edge retention and 3V will have a bit higher toughness. But both are still solid in the other department. So pick from what's more important to you, a little more wear resistance but less toughness or the other way around.
Lionsteel is greeaaat for the money. I have the m4 in m390 and it has taken a beating and kept a very good edge. I sharpend it freehand somedays ago tok a good edge too.
definitely! the M4 was a long time my go to budget super steel knife to recommend
@DTL they just rub it on their calloused hard sandpaper like hands 😘
@@DutchBushcraftKnives how do the m4 still hold up in todays market in your eyes?
Will the sharpening choil work with a fire steel?
Love the review as always. I have that knife but in cpm3v. Love that steel and I am really familiar with the steel. As I am making the t6 as my main carry blade when I go into thevuwilderness. I just prefer a steel that I know and I can sharpen in field,so cpm3 was my choice. Keep up the great vids!
Wait you guys had a dulled knife to sharpen for that sponsorship 😂😂
Did they switch the steel from K490 to 3V, or do they still make the K490 version?
What about the T6 in CPM3V? Likely not the same toughness as the K490, but you guys love that steel
Thanks for the code Mikkie and bless your tiny weener! Got an early bday gift thanks to you!
The DBK boys really need to test some Spyderco Seki City K390 folders it they want to see some good factory K390.
True!
Please stop it... Spyderco cant do good quality steel like it was used to few years before. It is just worse.
You can tell it was MIkkie's turn to edit because he forgot to grade a clip at 2:40
hahahahahahahahhaa!
Sure hope more of the models are coming with k390 and k490. K390 is my favourite steel
If I’m not confused about the model of knife 🔪 I believe you can scrape fire 🔥 steel with the extended tang in the handle.
I'll stick with the Apocalypse
I definitely would love that Lionsteel after ya'll put it through the wringer.
Im liking and commenting as these videos are very good. Hope it helps the algorithm too. Even though ive no idea how that works
Haha. The condor needed to be sharpened. Every condor buyer knows. Probably not sharp.
I have a question about the worksharp. If you use a course grit is it able to grind away a lot of material? For instance are you able to regrind bevels to a certain degree? And can you use it more or less as a small belt grinder because I'm scared it would be a bit underpowered for these things.
My friend had Worksharp and it's not underpowered for reprofiling, just for initial bevels applied when making a knife.
Test a Dawson
Yet again gentleman another very interesting piece especially as it was a lionsteel number K390 has a special place in my brain cavity but as for K490 you can never beat a new twist and I would highly agree with what you said it seems as if they have spat this out as it’s a little bit easier on the sharpening side of things. You never know perhaps they’re getting sued by a ever increasing amount of bald knife collecting people after trying to get the edge back on a k390 hahaha easiest way to find start asking slap heads if they have been at a sharpening bench with k390 and suddenly a pile of human hair all over the place 😂 hope that you both are in good health and may it always stay that way. Ohh yeah I forgot to say you pair of lunatics hahaha i love’s the antics you never fail to make this old fart laugh till the next one lads 😘👍🏼
If stung by a wasp, put a bandage with some alcohol on it for 5-10 minutes, it wil be less swolen en no itch
thanks for the tip!
nice knife.....
i would love to see all types of steel tested against each other in the same knife template
This knife has grown on me.i resisted it at first because for a year I had TRC Apocalypse. I'm glad I did pull the trigger and quit thinking about it. It's very good! I'm happy you made a video and LionSteel made this T6! For me it takes the place of Becker BK2 which I never had. I like the one piece handle. I appreciate the whole design more now than ever.
If I go and it's possible I need to survive in the wilderness I want TRC Apocalypse and Bark River Bravo Tope Recon as well as Bark River ULB to see me through
This Steel looks way better for heat treatment than k390
K490 STEEL is Good Steel, but $300 ???
I think You Guys are crazy ( like a fox ) !!!!
Attack wasps at night. Leave NO survivers
Knife country USA has em…
The TRC is only better at being a true stainless steel.
Привет из Украины:) Супер ролики у Вас:)!!
Use pineapple or meat tenderizer to reduce itch and symptoms of stings. Actual fruit or the stuff
meat tenderizer on my legs mmmmm.... sounds weird hahaha. Pineapple juice sounds better... but i'll attract even more wasps lol
@@DutchBushcraftKnives You need to try it next time. For real, it's an enzyme that breaks down been sting juice which is a protein. I've used it a few times
K490 = CPM M4 done right.
Will you test the newer CPM 3V version also since that's the "Normal version" now? And the K490 was only available in 1000 or 2000 pieces (per color). The new T6 should be a bit tougher, compared to K490, CPM 4V & Vanadis 4 Extra (around 4% Vanadium). K390 is more comparable with CPM 10V & Vanadis 8 (with around 10% Vanadium).
What knife is that on the thumbnail?
How is it compared to the 3v?
Your statement at 5:26 is off. K490 is said to have ALMOST as much edge holding as K390, but it almost TWICE as much toughness. It's supposed to be 3V levels of tough with just under K390 edge holding. It's very close to CPM-10V. Almost a perfect survival knife.
When I saw the thumbnail I thought Becker and Ka-Bar had released a BK-2 with some flash new steel...
Hey guys.....Soooooo....Lilly was asking the other day....when are you guys sending JOE X one of your DBK knives for a quick test 😋?
Try the m7 from lionsteel
Thanks a lot guys. I was going to bed and then I saw your video pop up. I thought, "Oh, no... I absolutely have to watch my favorite knife guys. No. Wait. Go to bed. No wait, I have to check this out. You know you must." So I watched and laughed my ass off. Now I have less sleep and less ass, so there you go. Now it may be harder to be a smart ass when I wake up. Really cool vid, by the way. lol
Hey DBK boys, my name is Ben I’m from Australia and I’m really keen to buy one of your bushcraft knives! I know you only made 300 in your first batch but when are you doing another because I really want one!!! Any information would be appreciated.
A 1x30 belt sander from harbor freight is like $50 bucks, buy some premium 1x30 knife sanding belts an your sharpening better than anything anyone can invent, just make some angle blocks
I think I prefer the CPM 4v Spyderco Province for a factory knife that’s similar to this Lionsteel, but it was sadly discontinued recently. You might still be able to find them, but they’re not making anymore for now.
Hope they bring it back in MagnaCut or something. Aaaand I’m on other another Spyderco tangent…
Anyway, both the Lionsteel and Spyderco are somewhat special for being production fixed blade knives in super steels like K490 and 4V. Interesting to compare them to each other and more normal knives.
Its Made in Taiwan 🤭 Lionsteel made in Italy !
@@bossmodus5020 So?
@@bossmodus5020
Both places harboring excellent knife manufacturers that the people running Spyderco have built long lasting and fruitful business relationships with.
I have a lot of respect for that, personally.
Spyderco’s Taiwan knives can give any other factory a run for their money. The Province that I mentioned was an excellently made bowie knife pushing the boundaries of super steels in production fixed blades. The Spyderco Zoomer made in Taiwan is another example: A full convex 20cv production bushcraft knife? Nothing else competes with its quality in production knives.
I want to see what the DBK boys think of that Dutch designed knife (The Zoomer).
Hi, everybody! As an afterthought I ordered a JRE industries sheath for LionSteel T6 and it came a day later than T6. It was perfect for the knife! It is Bushcrafter sheath Model U
Guys try offgrid brand, I know it’s on a cheaper side of things and lower grade of steel and everything but personally I’d love to see Alpha dog, ridgeback and tracker-X perform
Thumbsup.
I bough two T6 knives 2 months ago without realizing it's soooo good
You did? What made you buy them? Are they a black & a satin? You are looking so smart getting them before the video! Getting two is actually admirable! Lifetime supply!
@@ssunfish simply because it looks good and the quantity is limited...hahaha
One with black coating one without.
But K490 does get slightly rusted when used to process food.
How good is the coating
I gutted, skinned out, deboned, and chopped up the ribs and back bone of a white tailed deer. It is still is sharp enough to to shave hair off my arm. I am totally amazed!
I'll agree that its carving isn't amazing, but for striking a ferro rod, the sharpening choil actually works excellently, so that's what you'd want to use, rather than the spine.
In the next video, i wanna see you guys fight with the knives too the death....please??
Love You guys & your videos, keep them coming !!!!
What do you guys do to make sure you don’t get Lyme disease from ticks out there in the woods?...it is such an epidemic in the United States that most people don’t really realize how many people get it and have it.
The Apocalypse it is bigger and heavier than T6. When the T7 or the new M7 will be available...Great videos.
I like how your experiments are strictly scientific and not aimed at visual effects or entertainment
I used lionsteels filter on their website...and it appears they make no knife from K490 anymore.
k390 still better steel acording to bohler web page
They are still expensive for my budget, hopefully as more get into the market, prices will drop.
what do i have to do to win one of those knives ? I really need one and I don't have much of a budget left because I also have to buy new hicking boots (I have arthritis so a lot of the budget goes to that)
I got given a T5 a few days ago... not heard a bad thing about it. Never heard of Lionsteel until I was given one. Need to have a look now and see if you guys have reviewed any of their other knives...
When you started playing the USA national anthem, I peed a little from laughing so hard. So thanks for the wet pants.
Where are the whetstones?
You lazy, ha-ha, ha-ha!
Edit: Guys, you have to make a video about KKnives Switzerland, Roman makes magic.
I have Vivalranger in Vanax superclean, in a month Turbo and Shard in S390 will arrive. Worth every single cent and then some.
Cheers!
exactly that.... we got so many knives now that we need to maintain hahaha. keeping the sharpening stones for my favourite knives nowadays
It is awesome that you used the Star Spangled Banner when shooting the blade. Just, epic!! #merica
Test ANV P300 from Czech Republic good knife
You spent a full minute sharpening that edge on that worksharp and it was ripping through that paper. That's not sharp.
Mickey gives fans discounted tickets to his concerts if they bring old fry pans. That's the word on the street.
Can you do a video on bark rivers A2? I just bought a gameskeeper and adventurer thistle in A2.