I'm going to watch this for you AliG. I couldn't face the Gold & Guest podcast, but just for you I'll persevere. Yesterday was awful. It's amazing a group of young millionaires I have nothing in common with ruin my week.
Haha I just finished advising another fan to stop allowing other people to control his emotional state. It's part of being a fan, yes, but I think spurs are a strong drug and Ange is a ruthless dealer. Fans need to toughen up mentally
Hi Ally, you’re the only person I’ll listen to about yesterday. I’m looking forward to watching this. You’re the most balanced reporter, bar none. Praise or criticism, you apply both with dexterity. So, in advance, thank you for keeping an old man sane ☺️☺️
17:21 - That was what I was thinking along with a lot of others. Romero has had too many lapses probably down to fatigue. My own personal hottake is that Ange is learning on the fly and not bringing a wealth of experience to the situation. He should be rotating players more as all the players that played midweek looked gassed.
I thought he would have played Spence over Perro and Radu over Romero. I have also notice that when Romero gets fatigue he lapses. He isn't as sharp. After the IB Radu is able to play in the EL again. So Romero will be rested.
I was definitely critical of Ange's lack of change, but his post match comments really were poor. It's his job to get us 'undeserved results' and we don't have the luxury of throwing away points in the Prem to prove a point. The players absolutely need to shoulder some blame, but Ange really did make a mess of this.
Great episode Alasdair as ever. No one should be above criticism and Ange had a bad game yesterday. That being said, he is still the man I want leading our club. I have zero time for another rebuild. We are still very much a work in progress.
The whole of the game it was patently obvious Porto and Johnson had a problem defensively , we got away with it in the first half , but Ange failed to address this issue at H.T or in the second half . This game has two facets , offensive and defensive , you cannot just concentrate on the former .
Cluelees idiots mentioning ange stood there and did nothing. Just a question: Who is Ange meant to replace Romero, Vdv and Udogie with? Maybe Spence for Udogie. These are the players who cost us the game. We dont have replacements. The only mistake i thought ange made was not getting Udogie straight off after that disgraceful first goal effort and not getting Bentancur off earlier. Hecouldd have brought Moore on earlier as well but with the team playing so poorly I don't know if that would have made any difference.
Agree, other than Son that was our first 11 and the first half showed what they are capable of - it’s on the players about their attitude change in the second half.
Always talking sense Mr Gold. I've avoided all Spurs youtubers after the game because of the over negativity that will come. I was just a bad day in the office.
Love Ange, but if you play the high line and you have access to some quality subs, you need to replace players from the 60 minute mark. Gives the team fresh legs. Spence hasn’t been playing and would be chomping at the bit. Bringing Moore on for Werner. Bringing Biss or Sarr on or both. Gives the team impetus. Been saying this since he started and will continue until the end off his reign. Ange is still the man for the job in rebuilding the Spurs, it’s still a young team, they are learning and I’m sure Ange is as well, hopefully won’t see what happened with Porro and Johnson again, it is concerning that he doesn’t coach on the run like Pep does,I’ll be honest. The whole mix up between Porro and Johnson could have been avoided by Ange simply telling Johnson to stick to the left back. Sitting back with your arms folded just doesn’t work in the best league in the world. Have to be able to adapt formations and players on the run.
I mentioned as a comment to your Gold & Guest podcast , that from the NBC's live coverage I started to worry before the end of the first half. Saying that we needed a third goal either just before the end of that half or just at the beginning of the second like our second goal at Man U. Yes, as a Spurs support since 1959 my antenna is always set on 'spot the worrying signs' until we are 4 ahead with only 10 minutes to go. But my antenna did pick out our full backs, both players I admire, but especially Udogie worried me. He seemed slow and clumsy in the first half, one very poor pass and on pass that he failed to move for and let go out. He looked unfit whether physically or mentally I don't know, but he also seemed risk adverse in his movement. I said I hope Ange puts Spence on at half time to my wife who was, as always paying attention to the game by updating her Facebook contacts which unfortunately does not include anyone with influence over the manager. Does Ange have someone in the stand telling him about the lack of movement of individual players that is easier to assess from an elevation? I was watching from 5000 miles away but viewing from the stand my antenna did foretell a nightmare of a second half for Udogie!
Son even though he is perceived as a quiet leader. We’ve had many videos that showed the opposite. Even Brennan and Maddison have refuted it. Romero should’ve been commanding his backline and telling them what to do. Maddison as well should’ve held his side of the pitch accountable.
Thanks for this thorough analysis of a heartbreaking match. Agree with you wholeheartedly and think the lack of leadership really had an impact. I also appreciated your contextual points. Hoping for no injuries incurred in international break! Hope you have a fabulous holiday!
Thanks for having the strength to make a video after that mare of a performance, Alasdair. I agree with you that Ange needed to react sooner with his subs. I would have brought on Spence or Gray for Werner after the second Brighton goal and given them freedom to roam where needed either side of the pitch. In his post-match interview Ange claimed that substitutions and all those kind of things were totally irrelevant to him, and if you're not competitive you don't deserve to win. Which begs the question of whether any subs that he could have brought on might well have shown the competitive spirit that he wanted. It was almost as if he wanted to punish the team and let them fall to defeat. To do nothing until the last 10 minutes was difficult for us mere fans to comprehend.
Senior players did not do senior things and slowed and lost belief. Ange has 2 weeks to reflect. I believe we should have put on subs earlier and changed it up.
Mikey Moore I can understand, because he'd played the full game on Thursday, but there is no excuse for not bringing on Spence, Sarr and Bergvahl when it was clear we were losing control of the match.
I was so happy at halftime, I thought we played really well first half. Then after the break we just couldn't handle them. We needed a leader on the pitch, apart from the goalkeeper I didn't see anyone geeing any of the players up.
Ange was frozen. No changes till 70+ minutes, never subbed Udogie who was at the heart of our downfall, ZERO changes watching his team falling apart in a matter of 20 minutes. Ange will not last long with us and he knows it more than some of our fans
If I remember right for the third goal, I saw a replay in which Udogie successfully made the tackle but it bounced off Madders who was right next to him, and past them both for the Brighton player to scoop up and create that chance for Welbeck. Point is, that goal was partly unlucky, but that doesn't change how obviously Brighton were up for it in the second half and we weren't.
My two biggest issues so far this season: 1. Where is the absolute determination to defend? We don't stop crosses into the box, every player seems terrified of actually putting the ball out of play. I'm all for playing, but what on earth was Bentacaur doing for the 3rd goal? Just put it out for a corner. 2. The transfer window seems to be looking worse as each week passes. Werner clearly isnt the answer. I appreciate the "Johnson got stick, now it's Werner's turn" - big difference is that Johnson hasnt had 7 years of not being able to score a goal. It is clearly obvious that Ange doesnt trust the young players that he bought as well. To not make any changes when EVERYONE could see what was happening is dreadful from a top level coach. This was every bit as bad as the performances under Nuno/Conte
Udogie trying to regain match fitness due to missing a lot of football last season n pre season There’s no excuse for Romero who plays like he’s to good to be in this side
Oh Ali, i was on cloud 9 when we was 2-0 up, then brought right back down to earth at full time 😭😞. Listening to you will make it feel abit better. Cheers Ali
I think it is pure and simple that the team had become complacent given recent results. If we want to be really critical, we could say that again for all that possession in the first half we scored one good goal while Maddison's should have been saved. Even in the first half, there were at least two occassions when Brighton could have had a goal. I still think we are on the right track. Yes, Ange has never managed a side at this level but he does have a lot of experience as a manager and I think he will come good.
@Ali. False reward = winning but not sticking to the method. Ange is right and we can see by the usual performance/press that his methods work. Stray from his way and goals will be lost.
The glaring issue with Spurs, which often goes unspoken, is the lack of a strong, commanding captain. Historically, Spurs' most successful teams always had a tough, authoritative leader on the pitch. In recent years, we’ve been missing that. I genuinely believe that one of the reasons Spurs secured their last trophy was due to Jonathan Woodgate’s presence. We are lacking a dominant, vocal figure on the field to push the players, and this absence has been a problem for a considerable time in the club’s history. It’s something that urgently needs addressing. These kind of situations shine light on this.
Didn't expect to hear the sigh after the first half performance, but here we are. Watching this was a very cathartic experience for me Ali. Cheers to being able to break down a complex situation and truly bizarre match so well!
What got me was after the game both sets of players shake hands NP, but to then smile and chat as if the previous 45mins never happened shows how much it really hurt!!!!!
Hey, Mr Postecoglou, the players may not have deserved to win the game but the fans who turn up didn't deserve to lose because you Still haven't grasped the art of tactical substitutions, did they?
Cheers for the balanced perspective as always Ali, always feel better after your vid! For the Q&A - have you had a chance to read Vince Rugari's new Biography of Ange - AngeBall? Currently reading it and its very enjoyable read. You''re probably already familiar with a lot of the content but its well written, quite an easy/relaxed read and he gets a lot of different perspectives, so if you're ever curious and have the free time, would highly recommend!
Another good video mate I was there thanks for the therapy good points on Spence and and ange quotes what happened on Sunday needs to be like when you lock yourself out of the house you do it once but not again!
100% on the false reward thing. Total garbage, just a spoilt child being stubborn answer. Needs to be careful what he says about these things and winning in 2nd season. Giving ammo to the media needlessly
I don't want Ange at the club any more. The biggest problem is that he has his favourites and there is no consequence for poor performances. The signs were there for the whole of the 2nd half of last season. Why are we playing Werner when week after week when he plays awful, misses chances, passes to no one. The senior players are weak cowards. Romero was not tired, Romero switches off far to often. To such a point he has cost us so many points this season already. Would rahte rplay Drag than Romero. Then their is players like Djed and Reguilon, Philips not being included in squad lists... Or being loaned out. Playing Gray as a CB.... Why are we not giving Philips to bed time in with the team The clubs is a nonsensical mess and even games we have won, the problems have been glaring.
@@mikey16560 No idea. Even during preseason when we put the youngsters like Donley, Devine, Moore, Gray, we played so much better than seniors. Our seniors are just weak in the head and I don't understand we don;t make better use of them.
Thanks for your insight. Always valuable listening. I get the feeling that Ange is going to persist with his vision. Only the reality of the current situation is no where near it. Players just arent capable of maintaining the required style and philosophy over and over for 3 games a week. It took one half for a young opposition coach to outdo where the squad is at. What Ange needs is to be flexible until he has the squad depth to match his process. Maybe that will be when we have a stronger squad to interchange players that are letting down him, the side and the fans. So no one gets complacent. This isnt going to happen in one or two windows. Its going to be more of the same for the rest of this season.
Never was the sigh more warranted. Tottenham's ability to go from the sublime to the ridiculous is both worrying and annoying. The player's performance in the first half was sublime and in the second half ridiculous. Ange's tactics in the first half sublime, his inactivity with substitutions and directing from the touch line in the second ridiculous. Every team we will play in the league and in Europe will have periods of control over the game, if Ange can't find some pragmatic tweaks when opposition are in the assendancy similar capitulations will keep happening and although I think it's way premature the noise to have Ange removed will get louder and louder. Fair play to Brighton.
You came up with the answer at the start of the vid . The international break . The players came out for the second half think job done we can take it easy and save ourselves for the international matches they all care about . How many times have they failed to deliver a result before a break .
Took my 13 year old son to the Amex for his first premier league game. He has been desperate to see Spurs and this was our opportunity, with a Brighton supporting ST holder kindly giving up his tickets. At half time we sat quietly drinking a hot choc in the club lounge and I stupidly told him that even though he'd waited years, this was the game to watch- this was Ange-ball, this was the true Tottenham way....Needless to say, he was crestfallen at full time, but in a cruel way it was also a huge life lesson as a Spurs fan that I hope he carries with him- expect the unexpected with our beloved club, never take a 2 goal lead for granted and most importantly buckle up, as following spurs will be the emotional roller coaster ride of your life.....
We are a Solanke away from exactly the same side as last year - Ange needs a couple of premier league experienced heads in THE PRIME of their career to be able to call on. Not enough done in the summer and Ange doesn’t have that experience to call on
They thought they’d won it and already checked out for the International Break. It’s one of them. A big lesson that won’t be repeated. C’est la vie 🤷♂️
@@rickinrio I get it, the team leaders need to develop the bottle to stand up in these situations. I back some to do it and some who can’t or won’t to leave
I feel like Welbeck missing that sitter was a blessing in disguise for Brighton. Brighton momentum could have been blunted by halftime, and it would have given Spurs something to think about at halftime and make necessarily adjustments for the 2nd half. Instead, they just couldn't stop the momentum once Brighton started scoring early in the 2nd half.
Thanks for the T.H.erapy as always, we'll come again (hopefully not Bricktop-style!) My wife is Calgary-based so always a slog working UK hrs at 3am, but grateful for the friendly voice. Enjoy your travels, cheers!
Anybody who has a passing knowledge of football was shouting BRING SOMEBODY ON! Instead, Ange left them to crumble, no vocal support, no change of personal, no tactical changes, until the 80th minute! 30mins late! Gray, Bergval, Mikey Moore, Spence.. just bizarre management. Sorry I love the guy but he has a huge weakness in his ability to change plan. Very very disappointing, really on him today and the nonsense he came up with in the presser was laughable. Needs to learn the lessons or he won't last long.
Actually I disagree (on some points), sometimes you have to make people run through their personal hell. Also it is not dissimilar to every coach/manger on the planet except English ones apparently! I am not saying you are wrong in totality. I am alluding to the choice I think Ange made at the time, was it wrong? Possibly! Do the Spurs players need to take some concrete tablets and harden the f*ck up? Definitely! The mental weakness and lack of leadership is astonishing from a club that is meant to be one of the big 6. I have been worried about Romero over this season his mental break downs are becoming more frequent and more damaging. Is it mental health or the interplanetary nature of egos colliding? Time will tell.
Leadership comes from the top can you honestly say ange shows any leaderships qualities on the sidelines. As for on the pitch we needed to bring in a capt during the window all we brought were untested kids and solanke.
Don't shoot me.. But essentially its one bad half We are far from perfect but its also far from Nunoball. Still plenty of positives even on a nightmare day We got 2 weeks to sulk then we start to climb again.COYS
If that's the case, it could be a lesson well taught. We need to score 5 goals per game playing Ange's system in the prem. It's otherwise not a guaranteed win.
The positives are we haven't conceded from a set piece since Arsenal which also Man City conceded an identical goal. But I struggle when professional footballers can not manage a game. It's a given that teams will hit you hard in the second half. That's anyone's game plan. Maybe I've watched different games but we have been lucky. The warning signs are there. This is the team Ange had last season. That's 12months and a pre season so tell me why we are still making the same mistakes.
As much as I’d love to see us even marginally protect a 2-0 lead with a tactical adjustment to “grab the away points” I’m certainly not qualified to question the tactics. However it doesn’t take a professional eye to see that full throttle aggressive football requires fresh legs earlier in the second half than is our standard.. Might even save a few hamstrings? Fresh legs help in every sport at those dig deep moments, football is no exception. The competition level in the prem demands it. Ange is an incredible coach and I love what he’s about but god this was a self inflicted kick in the groin.
Brighton are a decent side and were obviously going to come at them in the second half. They had nothing to lose. All the team had to do was be compact and defend until Brighton ran out of steam and hit them on the break. Another goal and game over. It's what our neighbours would have done in the same position. It suits Arteta fine but not Postecoglu. He has to go for everything all of the time. Poor tactics and game management gave away three points. Hope we don't play like this in Europe - against the better teams we'll get beaten.
That answer re subs got me really mad too when I heard it,,he was basically saying, if you take him at his word, that they were so bad that they didn’t deserve anything from the game so I am not going to help them out by changing it with subs !! That’s our manager !!
Watching the match I felt in the first half it was too easy for Spurs. They were in behind at will. Just a few quick passes. I felt that if Brighton scored they would go on to win the match. When they got the first goal that was it. Ange not making subs until the 70th min will slated though think He was shellshock at what was happening. I was thinking that Destiny should have been taken off after the first Brighton goal. He made a mistake and never recovered. Spence coming on would have added freshness. Also though Radu should have started over Romero. What is being notice about Romero is when he starts to get tired he switches of. The 2nd Brighton goal came about due to him rushing out and missing the player and ball. 3rd Brighton goal Romero just watch Welbeck. Romero was the captain when he faded Spurs faded. Benta faded badly too. Brighton wanted it more and got the win. Spurs have been on the good side of a comeback win so being on the wrong end of one can be taken.
I’m going to be honest. I was thinking we’ve won the game after two goals. I was even predicting Moore and Lankshear will get their first senior goals. This was a good reminder how competitive this league is. Complacency is everywhere from the players to fans.
Good video again Alistair and just a couple of things you said about Captains I don't know why they needed a captain surely if your 2-0 up you would try and fight to keep that lead I wouldn't need to be told to do my best to hang on to it themselves, and as for Ange bringing on subs I don't think he could believe what he was seeing thinking they will turn it around in a minute like I was but the longer it went the worse it got then by the time he decided to change it, it was to late.
I think possibly Ange detected some hubris in the dressing room at half time? And then let the players see for themselves how that can bring about a downfall? It’s a tough lesson but one it appears was required. Ange is confident but he does not want overconfidence or arrogance. If it is a lesson, this is the right time of the season to deliver it.
Why does Dorrington not seem to get a chance under Ange? Also why don't any of the journalists ask Ange why Spence isn't getting more game time considering how well he has played when he has been given a chance?
@@Kate-lk6tw wow aren't you clever. I was referring to EL. As for said world champion, he has been at fault for numerous goals conceded this season so maybe his position should be under more scrutiny.
Would have been really interesting to have been a inivisible secret ear and eye in that Tottenham locker room at half time. What was the team and the gaffer talking about...and how? Did they already half celebreating a win? What was the "wise" words for second half? If there was anything like a feeling of "we have it already"...they have all learned a VERY HARD EARNED lesson now. I hope and wish that lesson learned will be ONLY a very positive thing moving forward this season...and onwards.
What if I told you since that initial 10 game "new manager" bounce, Ange has picked up less points in the league than ten hag at United? Both managers have spent around the same in transfers. We were all laughing last week, saying United are a shambles. The fans want ten hag gone. Yet he's picked up more points than "brilliant Ange"? I don't get the hype.
Yet Spurs finished above United last season and sit above them this time even though the results in some games haven't matched the performances. Strange stat that.
I have a theory that the defenders have become a little bit lazy in their defending as the forward players improve their pressing. It’s almost like they don’t feel like they have to defend or like they’ve forgotten how to because of the effectiveness of the forwards.
In his 26 years of coaching he knows the loss is going to speed up the development. He’s always talking about how he’s explained things over and over but until it happens some players don’t take it onboard. The late substitution is partly about wanting to truly see where they are at despite 5 wins and if there was a reaction plus not introduce a panicked reactionary mindset which creates doubts for future games. Hard loss but this is all about long term still, stay the course folks, Ange knows what’s he’s doing. The first half shows we have an identity it’s about maintaining it.
Yankiba Minteh: BHA doubled up on our left in the second half and Minteh, a pocket Adam Traore with end product was very good. Fast and very strong. Udogie needed more support but didnt cope well. But we didnt control the game becuase our pass and move stopped. And we got what we deserved. That will shift Ange's thinking on subs and place competition. 2 weeks to work through ahead of a tough run of games..COYS
Maybe the team were trying to manage the game in 2nd half but couldn’t handle Brighton’s press. Plus a bit of complacency may have played a part in their awful 2nd half display. Whatever the case, we are looking for excuses at this point. The team let the badge down: every single one of them.
Question Ali. When Vuskovic and Yan Min-Heok arrive at Spurs, who do you think may be most under threat for their place in the first team, that’s assuming that they at some point be ready for first team action.?
No need to complicate the explanations or demand removing the manager. It should be easy for the manager to understand: You cannot maintain the same stamina for such intensive play as occured in the first half. There should have been two or three changes if not at the start of the 2nd half, then absolutely after Brighton's first goal. Hoping that things will straighten out by themselves is naive.
Hi Ali , i sometimes wonder if we’re only fan base where it’s always extreme both ways. When we win we think we’re amazing then we lose and we’re the worst team ever with people saying Ange out. Neither are true as usual it’s somewhere in the midfield which makes sense 1.5 seasons in with young team. Probably more of an online thing. I think it’s maybe my perception and that other fans are the same but just always so extreme 🤦♂️. They say England job is hardest in the world but being Spurs manager has gotta be up there.
I was right at pitchsid efor the Bentancur non tackle. I feel he gambled it was enough for it to go out and i think he did not extend his left leg when he could have. Nay be tired maybe afraid of injury. The issue was we did not keep the ball and lost our speed of passing. Ange will learn from this. No one wants the 2 nil fcuked it up tag.
Bad leadership they were obviously basking in their glories at half time no fist thumping no come on we can do even better etc!!They went onto that pitch 2nd half with the match already won in their heads!I don't want to dwell on the past but oh for a Dave Mackay character I suspect that abject last 45 would never have happened under his leadership!!
Hi Al, i don't think that response was rubbish re: subs. The culture is broken at the club, mentality, fan culture, history everything. How do you grow a muscle? You need to tear it so it can repair and grow bigger and stronger. He is trying to change cutlure on and off the pitch. Starts with the players and their mentality. He doesn't want players to thrive on a false sense of security.
Keep kidding yourself . Ange doesn’t have the tools to manage at the top level , he’s tactically inept against most managers in the league and Ali was 💯 spot on re ange’s sub comments , it was an absolutely mental thing to come out with.
@@vandammejamI’m not kidding myself. I’ve seen him coach for 25 years. He’s never gunna change and that can be his Achilles heal, but to suggest he doesn’t have tactical nous or the ability to make changes is hilarious, given he’s already done so this season. But what’s evident the past 12 months in his tenure, a lot of people in England can’t read a game of football beyond surface level.
That second half is a result of a team thinking they had won the game by half time. Another example of a team empty of anyone with a killer instinct. They are unable to cope with any kind of pressure placed upon them. This is why we have the moniker of Spursy, and it won't go away until we get players with a killer instinct, and the mentality to make sure they do not lose a game that they are in total control of. Yet another false dawn at White Hart Lane.
Hey Ali, American spurs fan here. What's been your favorite American experience so far, and what are you looking forward to most on your trip through the USA?
I hope what Ange says and what he really thinks are different. He says some worryingly naive things for a man who's managed as long as he has. Such as "I don't know if I learned something new but I certainly experienced something new.". He didn't perhaps learn to make subs when the game is out of control? And worst of all this "Yeah I could have. But... all these things... are totally irrelevant to me." Sounds like he doesn't care. I know he does, but this sounds awful.
Ali - Ange kept them in as it was a mentality issue - no bandaids will deal with haemorrhaging. They needed to learn a lesson now - let’s see if Spurs make something with this 💩
Sometimes, I want to just give up on the comments that most of our fan base makes. Then i come across this comment. You are a true leader and intelligent obeserver, thank you for making my day. COYS!!
Don't understand why he waited so long to make his subs when he admitted himself that the most disappointing thing was the lack of compete and intensity. Feels like that's when you need subs to create new energy and wake up the team and he waited too long. Also why bring on Mikey when the pressure is the highest it gets, might as well start him, because that would put less pressure on him...
Alasdair you just summed it up at half time I was buzzing and happy , at halftime I think I was floating in the clouds and it felt nice and warm there, second half came it felt like someone slapped me hard in the face and at the end of the game rain was pouring on me where ever I went to in my house. They suck you and suck you back out.
At 55 minutes I said to my son subs subs subs. Ange is too slow to Sub. At 60 minutes sub and at 65 minutes sub sub sub bloody sub! Destiny had a terrible second half and I was crying for Djed Spence to have an opportunity and 7 minutes for Werner sub ridiculous! Ali thanks for your honest and balanced perspective
How can anyone dare blame it on tiredness those players have had no Europe until this year and it's the very start of it and already people are blaming tiredness what about clubs like arsenal liverpool city etc who play in Europe every single season and don't have huge squads
The playstyle is just so risky it's good to watch when it goes well because there is so many bodies offensively and so much risk you'll always creat chances and be in games ... the worry is your given teams lifelines with those risks and especially teams with the quality up front that teams like Brighton have it's criminal ... imagine liverpool city and teams with elite forwards and midfields you simply cannot have a midfield 3 of kulusevski maddison and bentancur protecting a ridiculous highline .... I also agree about van de ven take away his pace and he's an OK defender at best his pace and ability to track runners and get spurs to play higher is great but actual defending when someone stands him up or he has to jockey he is average his body position is always wrong and the reason you see so much impressive bursts and long sprints is he is caught out positionally so much similar to kyle walker there so fast they can make up for alot of mistakes
No way finally a team take their chances against spurs I mean it was always goin to happen eventually. As for Ange we need a goal and he brings on subs at 77mins and 1 of them is sarr over bergvall haha. Moore only good enough to get 6mins over ange’s star man Werner and where was spence as clearly udogies head was gone. I’m still Ange in for sure but his in game management is alarming at times. Positives may Johnson continue to prove me wrong and I’m really enjoying solankes hold up/link up play
(Chelsea fan) - Don't rate Ange. Had him figured out after we beat you at WHL last year. You say of course he wants to keep control of games? Yeah, actions speak louder than words, he really doesn't lol Don't get me wrong, his principles are extremely admirable. We had one like him w/Sarri & I defended him till the end & still defend his time at Chelsea to this day. A manager who's come through the long, hard way & thus doesn't care what people think, this brought him here so he'll live or die on that sword. But you'll never have true consistency in the PL with these managers, you just won't! League's got too many quality tacticians & too many young managers desperate to make a splash who'll pick apart that overly aggressive game plan that never changes.
@@AJBenny159 Maybe for Sunday yeah, but in general you won't go anywhere with this manager. Doesn't matter if he could hand pick his own personal squad from scratch, you'll always have games where the opposition dig in & do a job on you. He's too transparent.
Romero should have covered Porro on cross for Brighton's first goal but really not Romero 's fault , midfielder should have been there to cover Porro ( defensive midfielder) having seen B winger giving us huge problems all the time. Plan B should have been , keep it tight for 20 minutes , no stupid mistakes , then perhaps a third could have been scored. Instead , Plan A all out attack and we suffered. Third goal was the worst for passive defending. Shocking second half performance and ruins another Sunday. What can you say ?
I'm going to watch this for you AliG. I couldn't face the Gold & Guest podcast, but just for you I'll persevere. Yesterday was awful. It's amazing a group of young millionaires I have nothing in common with ruin my week.
Literally the only thing I can bring myself to watch
Haha I just finished advising another fan to stop allowing other people to control his emotional state. It's part of being a fan, yes, but I think spurs are a strong drug and Ange is a ruthless dealer. Fans need to toughen up mentally
There there. Have a nice cup of tea and a biscuit and sit down and watch Ted Lasso. You’ll feel better for it.
Hi Ally, you’re the only person I’ll listen to about yesterday. I’m looking forward to watching this. You’re the most balanced reporter, bar none. Praise or criticism, you apply both with dexterity. So, in advance, thank you for keeping an old man sane ☺️☺️
My pleasure.
@@AlasdairGoldjournalist 🩵🩵
17:21 - That was what I was thinking along with a lot of others. Romero has had too many lapses probably down to fatigue. My own personal hottake is that Ange is learning on the fly and not bringing a wealth of experience to the situation. He should be rotating players more as all the players that played midweek looked gassed.
I thought he would have played Spence over Perro and Radu over Romero. I have also notice that when Romero gets fatigue he lapses. He isn't as sharp. After the IB Radu is able to play in the EL again. So Romero will be rested.
I was definitely critical of Ange's lack of change, but his post match comments really were poor. It's his job to get us 'undeserved results' and we don't have the luxury of throwing away points in the Prem to prove a point. The players absolutely need to shoulder some blame, but Ange really did make a mess of this.
Those undeserved points will start to warrant more bad results than good in the long term, hope you realize this
Great episode Alasdair as ever. No one should be above criticism and Ange had a bad game yesterday. That being said, he is still the man I want leading our club. I have zero time for another rebuild. We are still very much a work in progress.
So, this criticism is of the rebuild? I used to think the English were good at logic.
Just before going to sleep, now I can have earphones hooked for the next hour, great work Ali.
The whole of the game it was patently obvious Porto and Johnson had a problem defensively , we got away with it in the first half , but Ange failed to address this issue at H.T or in the second half . This game has two facets , offensive and defensive , you cannot just concentrate on the former .
Wow, maybe you could write to him? So important that someone tell him this astonishing insight.
@@Kate-lk6twCalm down Karen, I mean Kate...
Cluelees idiots mentioning ange stood there and did nothing. Just a question: Who is Ange meant to replace Romero, Vdv and Udogie with? Maybe Spence for Udogie. These are the players who cost us the game. We dont have replacements. The only mistake i thought ange made was not getting Udogie straight off after that disgraceful first goal effort and not getting Bentancur off earlier. Hecouldd have brought Moore on earlier as well but with the team playing so poorly I don't know if that would have made any difference.
Agree, other than Son that was our first 11 and the first half showed what they are capable of - it’s on the players about their attitude change in the second half.
Always talking sense Mr Gold. I've avoided all Spurs youtubers after the game because of the over negativity that will come. I was just a bad day in the office.
Thanks man. I do precisely the same. I think most use negativity to ensure clickbait
Have a great holiday Alasdair. Thanks for bringing such a balanced channel to the crazy world of Spurs. 🙏
Love Ange, but if you play the high line and you have access to some quality subs, you need to replace players from the 60 minute mark. Gives the team fresh legs. Spence hasn’t been playing and would be chomping at the bit. Bringing Moore on for Werner. Bringing Biss or Sarr on or both. Gives the team impetus. Been saying this since he started and will continue until the end off his reign. Ange is still the man for the job in rebuilding the Spurs, it’s still a young team, they are learning and I’m sure Ange is as well, hopefully won’t see what happened with Porro and Johnson again, it is concerning that he doesn’t coach on the run like Pep does,I’ll be honest. The whole mix up between Porro and Johnson could have been avoided by Ange simply telling Johnson to stick to the left back. Sitting back with your arms folded just doesn’t work in the best league in the world. Have to be able to adapt formations and players on the run.
I mentioned as a comment to your Gold & Guest podcast , that from the NBC's live coverage I started to worry before the end of the first half. Saying that we needed a third goal either just before the end of that half or just at the beginning of the second like our second goal at Man U. Yes, as a Spurs support since 1959 my antenna is always set on 'spot the worrying signs' until we are 4 ahead with only 10 minutes to go. But my antenna did pick out our full backs, both players I admire, but especially Udogie worried me. He seemed slow and clumsy in the first half, one very poor pass and on pass that he failed to move for and let go out. He looked unfit whether physically or mentally I don't know, but he also seemed risk adverse in his movement. I said I hope Ange puts Spence on at half time to my wife who was, as always paying attention to the game by updating her Facebook contacts which unfortunately does not include anyone with influence over the manager. Does Ange have someone in the stand telling him about the lack of movement of individual players that is easier to assess from an elevation? I was watching from 5000 miles away but viewing from the stand my antenna did foretell a nightmare of a second half for Udogie!
Son even though he is perceived as a quiet leader. We’ve had many videos that showed the opposite. Even Brennan and Maddison have refuted it. Romero should’ve been commanding his backline and telling them what to do. Maddison as well should’ve held his side of the pitch accountable.
Excuse me, when exactly have they refuted it?
Couldn't bear to listen to any podcast since the game. But I can always relate your suffering tempered by well balanced analysis.
Thanks for this thorough analysis of a heartbreaking match. Agree with you wholeheartedly and think the lack of leadership really had an impact. I also appreciated your contextual points. Hoping for no injuries incurred in international break! Hope you have a fabulous holiday!
Thanks for having the strength to make a video after that mare of a performance, Alasdair. I agree with you that Ange needed to react sooner with his subs. I would have brought on Spence or Gray for Werner after the second Brighton goal and given them freedom to roam where needed either side of the pitch. In his post-match interview Ange claimed that substitutions and all those kind of things were totally irrelevant to him, and if you're not competitive you don't deserve to win. Which begs the question of whether any subs that he could have brought on might well have shown the competitive spirit that he wanted. It was almost as if he wanted to punish the team and let them fall to defeat. To do nothing until the last 10 minutes was difficult for us mere fans to comprehend.
Senior players did not do senior things and slowed and lost belief. Ange has 2 weeks to reflect. I believe we should have put on subs earlier and changed it up.
Mikey Moore I can understand, because he'd played the full game on Thursday, but there is no excuse for not bringing on Spence, Sarr and Bergvahl when it was clear we were losing control of the match.
I was so happy at halftime, I thought we played really well first half. Then after the break we just couldn't handle them. We needed a leader on the pitch, apart from the goalkeeper I didn't see anyone geeing any of the players up.
Ange was frozen. No changes till 70+ minutes, never subbed Udogie who was at the heart of our downfall, ZERO changes watching his team falling apart in a matter of 20 minutes. Ange will not last long with us and he knows it more than some of our fans
If I remember right for the third goal, I saw a replay in which Udogie successfully made the tackle but it bounced off Madders who was right next to him, and past them both for the Brighton player to scoop up and create that chance for Welbeck. Point is, that goal was partly unlucky, but that doesn't change how obviously Brighton were up for it in the second half and we weren't.
My two biggest issues so far this season:
1. Where is the absolute determination to defend? We don't stop crosses into the box, every player seems terrified of actually putting the ball out of play. I'm all for playing, but what on earth was Bentacaur doing for the 3rd goal? Just put it out for a corner.
2. The transfer window seems to be looking worse as each week passes. Werner clearly isnt the answer. I appreciate the "Johnson got stick, now it's Werner's turn" - big difference is that Johnson hasnt had 7 years of not being able to score a goal.
It is clearly obvious that Ange doesnt trust the young players that he bought as well.
To not make any changes when EVERYONE could see what was happening is dreadful from a top level coach. This was every bit as bad as the performances under Nuno/Conte
The performances of Udogie and Romero this season have been very concerning
Udogie trying to regain match fitness due to missing a lot of football last season n pre season
There’s no excuse for Romero who plays like he’s to good to be in this side
Oh Ali, i was on cloud 9 when we was 2-0 up, then brought right back down to earth at full time 😭😞. Listening to you will make it feel abit better. Cheers Ali
I think it is pure and simple that the team had become complacent given recent results. If we want to be really critical, we could say that again for all that possession in the first half we scored one good goal while Maddison's should have been saved. Even in the first half, there were at least two occassions when Brighton could have had a goal.
I still think we are on the right track. Yes, Ange has never managed a side at this level but he does have a lot of experience as a manager and I think he will come good.
@Ali. False reward = winning but not sticking to the method. Ange is right and we can see by the usual performance/press that his methods work. Stray from his way and goals will be lost.
The glaring issue with Spurs, which often goes unspoken, is the lack of a strong, commanding captain. Historically, Spurs' most successful teams always had a tough, authoritative leader on the pitch. In recent years, we’ve been missing that. I genuinely believe that one of the reasons Spurs secured their last trophy was due to Jonathan Woodgate’s presence. We are lacking a dominant, vocal figure on the field to push the players, and this absence has been a problem for a considerable time in the club’s history. It’s something that urgently needs addressing. These kind of situations shine light on this.
Didn't expect to hear the sigh after the first half performance, but here we are. Watching this was a very cathartic experience for me Ali. Cheers to being able to break down a complex situation and truly bizarre match so well!
What got me was after the game both sets of players shake hands NP, but to then smile and chat as if the previous 45mins never happened shows how much it really hurt!!!!!
Hey, Mr Postecoglou, the players may not have deserved to win the game but the fans who turn up didn't deserve to lose because you Still haven't grasped the art of tactical substitutions, did they?
You’re entitled to your opinion but I’m sure he’s grasped the art of tactical substitutions. You don’t reach that level without being tactical.
Thank you for being so cathartic 🙏!!
Cheers for the balanced perspective as always Ali, always feel better after your vid! For the Q&A - have you had a chance to read Vince Rugari's new Biography of Ange - AngeBall? Currently reading it and its very enjoyable read. You''re probably already familiar with a lot of the content but its well written, quite an easy/relaxed read and he gets a lot of different perspectives, so if you're ever curious and have the free time, would highly recommend!
Could have used some Pierre Emil professionalism and leadership in that second half.. that was really, something else..
He's the exact player who needed to come on to see it through
Why do you think Ange wanted to Werner, VDV, Oderbert, all sprinters
Fast is fine, but guile is needed too
Pity he never did that when he played for us.
Another good video mate I was there thanks for the therapy good points on Spence and and ange quotes what happened on Sunday needs to be like when you lock yourself out of the house you do it once but not again!
100% on the false reward thing. Total garbage, just a spoilt child being stubborn answer. Needs to be careful what he says about these things and winning in 2nd season. Giving ammo to the media needlessly
I don't want Ange at the club any more. The biggest problem is that he has his favourites and there is no consequence for poor performances. The signs were there for the whole of the 2nd half of last season.
Why are we playing Werner when week after week when he plays awful, misses chances, passes to no one. The senior players are weak cowards. Romero was not tired, Romero switches off far to often. To such a point he has cost us so many points this season already. Would rahte rplay Drag than Romero.
Then their is players like Djed and Reguilon, Philips not being included in squad lists... Or being loaned out. Playing Gray as a CB.... Why are we not giving Philips to bed time in with the team
The clubs is a nonsensical mess and even games we have won, the problems have been glaring.
I don't get it, maybe he just don't rate Spence or Phillips. Porro not a very good defender so why not Spence, Phillips why not !!
@@mikey16560 No idea. Even during preseason when we put the youngsters like Donley, Devine, Moore, Gray, we played so much better than seniors.
Our seniors are just weak in the head and I don't understand we don;t make better use of them.
Thanks for your insight. Always valuable listening. I get the feeling that Ange is going to persist with his vision. Only the reality of the current situation is no where near it. Players just arent capable of maintaining the required style and philosophy over and over for 3 games a week. It took one half for a young opposition coach to outdo where the squad is at. What Ange needs is to be flexible until he has the squad depth to match his process. Maybe that will be when we have a stronger squad to interchange players that are letting down him, the side and the fans. So no one gets complacent. This isnt going to happen in one or two windows. Its going to be more of the same for the rest of this season.
Never was the sigh more warranted. Tottenham's ability to go from the sublime to the ridiculous is both worrying and annoying. The player's performance in the first half was sublime and in the second half ridiculous. Ange's tactics in the first half sublime, his inactivity with substitutions and directing from the touch line in the second ridiculous. Every team we will play in the league and in Europe will have periods of control over the game, if Ange can't find some pragmatic tweaks when opposition are in the assendancy similar capitulations will keep happening and although I think it's way premature the noise to have Ange removed will get louder and louder. Fair play to Brighton.
You came up with the answer at the start of the vid . The international break .
The players came out for the second half think job done we can take it easy and save ourselves for the international matches they all care about . How many times have they failed to deliver a result before a break .
Took my 13 year old son to the Amex for his first premier league game. He has been desperate to see Spurs and this was our opportunity, with a Brighton supporting ST holder kindly giving up his tickets. At half time we sat quietly drinking a hot choc in the club lounge and I stupidly told him that even though he'd waited years, this was the game to watch- this was Ange-ball, this was the true Tottenham way....Needless to say, he was crestfallen at full time, but in a cruel way it was also a huge life lesson as a Spurs fan that I hope he carries with him- expect the unexpected with our beloved club, never take a 2 goal lead for granted and most importantly buckle up, as following spurs will be the emotional roller coaster ride of your life.....
In a funny way it really was the perfect game for him to understand what supporting spurs will truly do to you 😅
@@melmakianyes I couldn't agree more!!
We are a Solanke away from exactly the same side as last year - Ange needs a couple of premier league experienced heads in THE PRIME of their career to be able to call on. Not enough done in the summer and Ange doesn’t have that experience to call on
They thought they’d won it and already checked out for the International Break. It’s one of them.
A big lesson that won’t be repeated.
C’est la vie 🤷♂️
Bang on. The failure here is the players. They let the club and the manager down
@@twosheds2030 I was at the stadium in camouflage. Horrible sitting among the celebrations but you get that 🤷♂️
@@rickinrio I get it, the team leaders need to develop the bottle to stand up in these situations. I back some to do it and some who can’t or won’t to leave
I feel like Welbeck missing that sitter was a blessing in disguise for Brighton. Brighton momentum could have been blunted by halftime, and it would have given Spurs something to think about at halftime and make necessarily adjustments for the 2nd half. Instead, they just couldn't stop the momentum once Brighton started scoring early in the 2nd half.
Thanks for the T.H.erapy as always, we'll come again (hopefully not Bricktop-style!) My wife is Calgary-based so always a slog working UK hrs at 3am, but grateful for the friendly voice. Enjoy your travels, cheers!
Anybody who has a passing knowledge of football was shouting BRING SOMEBODY ON! Instead, Ange left them to crumble, no vocal support, no change of personal, no tactical changes, until the 80th minute! 30mins late! Gray, Bergval, Mikey Moore, Spence.. just bizarre management.
Sorry I love the guy but he has a huge weakness in his ability to change plan. Very very disappointing, really on him today and the nonsense he came up with in the presser was laughable. Needs to learn the lessons or he won't last long.
Actually I disagree (on some points), sometimes you have to make people run through their personal hell. Also it is not dissimilar to every coach/manger on the planet except English ones apparently! I am not saying you are wrong in totality. I am alluding to the choice I think Ange made at the time, was it wrong? Possibly! Do the Spurs players need to take some concrete tablets and harden the f*ck up? Definitely! The mental weakness and lack of leadership is astonishing from a club that is meant to be one of the big 6. I have been worried about Romero over this season his mental break downs are becoming more frequent and more damaging. Is it mental health or the interplanetary nature of egos colliding? Time will tell.
Leadership comes from the top can you honestly say ange shows any leaderships qualities on the sidelines. As for on the pitch we needed to bring in a capt during the window all we brought were untested kids and solanke.
Don't shoot me.. But essentially its one bad half
We are far from perfect but its also far from Nunoball. Still plenty of positives even on a nightmare day
We got 2 weeks to sulk then we start to climb again.COYS
I admire your positivity mate
get a grip.... we are 9th
Thanks Ali. Hearing you describe it is weirdly therapeutic. Agree with everything you said as well I think.
After listening to your analysis it sounds like Ange wanted to punish them, to teach them a lesson _ that no one is coming to save them.
If that's the case, it could be a lesson well taught.
We need to score 5 goals per game playing Ange's system in the prem. It's otherwise not a guaranteed win.
Stupid lesson. Top coaches are highly adaptable
Somehow we never play well just before a break. 😢
The positives are we haven't conceded from a set piece since Arsenal which also Man City conceded an identical goal.
But I struggle when professional footballers can not manage a game.
It's a given that teams will hit you hard in the second half. That's anyone's game plan. Maybe I've watched different games but we have been lucky.
The warning signs are there.
This is the team Ange had last season. That's 12months and a pre season so tell me why we are still making the same mistakes.
Yeah it's not the manager
It is
@@thedon2673 'nt
@@thedon2673. No it isn’t, but you probably thought we were winning the league last week 😹🤬
@@TRIBECHIEFTAIN nope! We were beating up the likes of Ferenvaros & Quarabag! lol! Did we win against a good team yet? 😂
@@thedon2673what happened with the last four gaffers?
Yeah the manner of the defeat was the issue. There was a lack of professionalism in that. They took it for granted.
As much as I’d love to see us even marginally protect a 2-0 lead with a tactical adjustment to “grab the away points” I’m certainly not qualified to question the tactics. However it doesn’t take a professional eye to see that full throttle aggressive football requires fresh legs earlier in the second half than is our standard.. Might even save a few hamstrings? Fresh legs help in every sport at those dig deep moments, football is no exception. The competition level in the prem demands it. Ange is an incredible coach and I love what he’s about but god this was a self inflicted kick in the groin.
Brighton are a decent side and were obviously going to come at them in the second half. They had nothing to lose. All the team had to do was be compact and defend until Brighton ran out of steam and hit them on the break. Another goal and game over. It's what our neighbours would have done in the same position. It suits Arteta fine but not Postecoglu. He has to go for everything all of the time. Poor tactics and game management gave away three points. Hope we don't play like this in Europe - against the better teams we'll get beaten.
That answer re subs got me really mad too when I heard it,,he was basically saying, if you take him at his word, that they were so bad that they didn’t deserve anything from the game so I am not going to help them out by changing it with subs !! That’s our manager !!
Yeap
Watching the match I felt in the first half it was too easy for Spurs. They were in behind at will. Just a few quick passes. I felt that if Brighton scored they would go on to win the match. When they got the first goal that was it. Ange not making subs until the 70th min will slated though think He was shellshock at what was happening. I was thinking that Destiny should have been taken off after the first Brighton goal. He made a mistake and never recovered. Spence coming on would have added freshness. Also though Radu should have started over Romero. What is being notice about Romero is when he starts to get tired he switches of. The 2nd Brighton goal came about due to him rushing out and missing the player and ball. 3rd Brighton goal Romero just watch Welbeck. Romero was the captain when he faded Spurs faded. Benta faded badly too. Brighton wanted it more and got the win. Spurs have been on the good side of a comeback win so being on the wrong end of one can be taken.
I’m going to be honest. I was thinking we’ve won the game after two goals. I was even predicting Moore and Lankshear will get their first senior goals. This was a good reminder how competitive this league is. Complacency is everywhere from the players to fans.
I think some of players were protecting themselves for the internationals. They played exactly the same way against Fullham last year.
Good video again Alistair and just a couple of things you said about Captains I don't know why they needed a captain surely if your 2-0 up you would try and fight to keep that lead I wouldn't need to be told to do my best to hang on to it themselves, and as for Ange bringing on subs I don't think he could believe what he was seeing thinking they will turn it around in a minute like I was but the longer it went the worse it got then by the time he decided to change it, it was to late.
Love you and your stuff ...never change!
I think possibly Ange detected some hubris in the dressing room at half time?
And then let the players see for themselves how that can bring about a downfall?
It’s a tough lesson but one it appears was required.
Ange is confident but he does not want overconfidence or arrogance.
If it is a lesson, this is the right time of the season to deliver it.
Agree strongly with this. Bemused by this Ange Out crowd. So Reactive.
I agree Ange taught them a lesson
@@quarryrydeIt’s what they always do. That’s why we’ve had so many managers.
Why does Dorrington not seem to get a chance under Ange? Also why don't any of the journalists ask Ange why Spence isn't getting more game time considering how well he has played when he has been given a chance?
Why would Dorrington get a chance when our main CBs are available?
Maybe because preferring a world champion is obvious.
@@highlandersteve9953 Turnover happens? Gray played there in the EL & that isn't even his position.
@@Kate-lk6tw wow aren't you clever. I was referring to EL. As for said world champion, he has been at fault for numerous goals conceded this season so maybe his position should be under more scrutiny.
Cos the journalists are seemingly too scared to risk annoying Ange
Don’t understand why Ange say this is first time he see this? We lost heavy in the end of last season away from home!
Would have been really interesting to have been a inivisible secret ear and eye in that Tottenham locker room at half time. What was the team and the gaffer talking about...and how? Did they already half celebreating a win? What was the "wise" words for second half?
If there was anything like a feeling of "we have it already"...they have all learned a VERY HARD EARNED lesson now.
I hope and wish that lesson learned will be ONLY a very positive thing moving forward this season...and onwards.
What if I told you since that initial 10 game "new manager" bounce, Ange has picked up less points in the league than ten hag at United? Both managers have spent around the same in transfers. We were all laughing last week, saying United are a shambles. The fans want ten hag gone. Yet he's picked up more points than "brilliant Ange"? I don't get the hype.
Yet Spurs finished above United last season and sit above them this time even though the results in some games haven't matched the performances. Strange stat that.
@AlasdairGoldjournalist that's almost a full season of matches. Ten Hag has won 2 cups in England. The odds of Ange besting that are very low.
Players looked knackered after first half. And Shaken from first goal. Manager should have done something after first goal. No excuses period.
I have a theory that the defenders have become a little bit lazy in their defending as the forward players improve their pressing.
It’s almost like they don’t feel like they have to defend or like they’ve forgotten how to because of the effectiveness of the forwards.
Should done it at 1-2 Alasdair. Was obvious what was happening. It amazes me a succession of Spurs managers don't see the signs.
Theres no point looking at social media bin fire.
Thats not the place to get perspective and insight on a defeat as anger competes with the unhinged.
I can’t believe that Ange is getting stick for this loss
This was the only Spurs social media I sought out after that result. I wouldn’t dare touch the rest.
Hi Alasdair thanks for the sad vlog take care stay safe
In his 26 years of coaching he knows the loss is going to speed up the development. He’s always talking about how he’s explained things over and over but until it happens some players don’t take it onboard. The late substitution is partly about wanting to truly see where they are at despite 5 wins and if there was a reaction plus not introduce a panicked reactionary mindset which creates doubts for future games. Hard loss but this is all about long term still, stay the course folks, Ange knows what’s he’s doing. The first half shows we have an identity it’s about maintaining it.
Yankiba Minteh: BHA doubled up on our left in the second half and Minteh, a pocket Adam Traore with end product was very good. Fast and very strong. Udogie needed more support but didnt cope well. But we didnt control the game becuase our pass and move stopped. And we got what we deserved. That will shift Ange's thinking on subs and place competition. 2 weeks to work through ahead of a tough run of games..COYS
Maybe the team were trying to manage the game in 2nd half but couldn’t handle Brighton’s press. Plus a bit of complacency may have played a part in their awful 2nd half display.
Whatever the case, we are looking for excuses at this point. The team let the badge down: every single one of them.
Question Ali. When Vuskovic and Yan Min-Heok arrive at Spurs, who do you think may be most under threat for their place in the first team, that’s assuming that they at some point be ready for first team action.?
No need to complicate the explanations or demand removing the manager. It should be easy for the manager to understand:
You cannot maintain the same stamina for such intensive play as occured in the first half. There should have been two or three changes if not at the start of the 2nd half, then absolutely after Brighton's first goal.
Hoping that things will straighten out by themselves is naive.
Yes you can that’s total bs it’s laughable 👉🏾🤡
Hi Ali , i sometimes wonder if we’re only fan base where it’s always extreme both ways. When we win we think we’re amazing then we lose and we’re the worst team ever with people saying Ange out. Neither are true as usual it’s somewhere in the midfield which makes sense 1.5 seasons in with young team. Probably more of an online thing. I think it’s maybe my perception and that other fans are the same but just always so extreme 🤦♂️.
They say England job is hardest in the world but being Spurs manager has gotta be up there.
I was right at pitchsid efor the Bentancur non tackle. I feel he gambled it was enough for it to go out and i think he did not extend his left leg when he could have. Nay be tired maybe afraid of injury. The issue was we did not keep the ball and lost our speed of passing. Ange will learn from this. No one wants the 2 nil fcuked it up tag.
Bad leadership they were obviously basking in their glories at half time no fist thumping no come on we can do even better etc!!They went onto that pitch 2nd half with the match already won in their heads!I don't want to dwell on the past but oh for a Dave Mackay character I suspect that abject last 45 would never have happened under his leadership!!
Hi Al, i don't think that response was rubbish re: subs. The culture is broken at the club, mentality, fan culture, history everything. How do you grow a muscle? You need to tear it so it can repair and grow bigger and stronger. He is trying to change cutlure on and off the pitch. Starts with the players and their mentality. He doesn't want players to thrive on a false sense of security.
Keep kidding yourself . Ange doesn’t have the tools to manage at the top level , he’s tactically inept against most managers in the league and Ali was 💯 spot on re ange’s sub comments , it was an absolutely mental thing to come out with.
@@vandammejamI’m not kidding myself. I’ve seen him coach for 25 years. He’s never gunna change and that can be his Achilles heal, but to suggest he doesn’t have tactical nous or the ability to make changes is hilarious, given he’s already done so this season. But what’s evident the past 12 months in his tenure, a lot of people in England can’t read a game of football beyond surface level.
“…weak in the duels” sounded like “…weak in the (family) jewels”. I applaud your uncanny ability to turn a phrase! 😊
That second half is a result of a team thinking they had won the game by half time. Another example of a team empty of anyone with a killer instinct. They are unable to cope with any kind of pressure placed upon them. This is why we have the moniker of Spursy, and it won't go away until we get players with a killer instinct, and the mentality to make sure they do not lose a game that they are in total control of. Yet another false dawn at White Hart Lane.
Hey Ali, American spurs fan here. What's been your favorite American experience so far, and what are you looking forward to most on your trip through the USA?
I hope what Ange says and what he really thinks are different. He says some worryingly naive things for a man who's managed as long as he has.
Such as "I don't know if I learned something new but I certainly experienced something new.". He didn't perhaps learn to make subs when the game is out of control?
And worst of all this "Yeah I could have. But... all these things... are totally irrelevant to me." Sounds like he doesn't care. I know he does, but this sounds awful.
Ali - Ange kept them in as it was a mentality issue - no bandaids will deal with haemorrhaging. They needed to learn a lesson now - let’s see if Spurs make something with this 💩
Sometimes, I want to just give up on the comments that most of our fan base makes. Then i come across this comment. You are a true leader and intelligent obeserver, thank you for making my day. COYS!!
Don't understand why he waited so long to make his subs when he admitted himself that the most disappointing thing was the lack of compete and intensity. Feels like that's when you need subs to create new energy and wake up the team and he waited too long. Also why bring on Mikey when the pressure is the highest it gets, might as well start him, because that would put less pressure on him...
The return of the Ali Gold sigh.
I heard it when the third goal went in.
Alasdair you just summed it up at half time I was buzzing and happy , at halftime I think I was floating in the clouds and it felt nice and warm there, second half came it felt like someone slapped me hard in the face and at the end of the game rain was pouring on me where ever I went to in my house. They suck you and suck you back out.
At 55 minutes I said to my son subs subs subs. Ange is too slow to Sub. At 60 minutes sub and at 65 minutes sub sub sub bloody sub! Destiny had a terrible second half and I was crying for Djed Spence to have an opportunity and 7 minutes for Werner sub ridiculous! Ali thanks for your honest and balanced perspective
How can anyone dare blame it on tiredness those players have had no Europe until this year and it's the very start of it and already people are blaming tiredness what about clubs like arsenal liverpool city etc who play in Europe every single season and don't have huge squads
Enjoy your holiday in America ! I grew up there so have been lucky to see a lot of the US! 🇺🇸 enjoy !
I was always told as a kid, for the midfield 4, you need one ball winner, two skilful players, and one moaner. Our midfield are too nice.
Come On Ali We Need This Cathartic Therapy😊
The playstyle is just so risky it's good to watch when it goes well because there is so many bodies offensively and so much risk you'll always creat chances and be in games ... the worry is your given teams lifelines with those risks and especially teams with the quality up front that teams like Brighton have it's criminal ... imagine liverpool city and teams with elite forwards and midfields you simply cannot have a midfield 3 of kulusevski maddison and bentancur protecting a ridiculous highline .... I also agree about van de ven take away his pace and he's an OK defender at best his pace and ability to track runners and get spurs to play higher is great but actual defending when someone stands him up or he has to jockey he is average his body position is always wrong and the reason you see so much impressive bursts and long sprints is he is caught out positionally so much similar to kyle walker there so fast they can make up for alot of mistakes
No way finally a team take their chances against spurs I mean it was always goin to happen eventually. As for Ange we need a goal and he brings on subs at 77mins and 1 of them is sarr over bergvall haha. Moore only good enough to get 6mins over ange’s star man Werner and where was spence as clearly udogies head was gone. I’m still Ange in for sure but his in game management is alarming at times. Positives may Johnson continue to prove me wrong and I’m really enjoying solankes hold up/link up play
I really hope you are monitising this channel mate with the big following you have, you deserve it 👍🏼
(Chelsea fan) - Don't rate Ange. Had him figured out after we beat you at WHL last year. You say of course he wants to keep control of games? Yeah, actions speak louder than words, he really doesn't lol
Don't get me wrong, his principles are extremely admirable. We had one like him w/Sarri & I defended him till the end & still defend his time at Chelsea to this day. A manager who's come through the long, hard way & thus doesn't care what people think, this brought him here so he'll live or die on that sword. But you'll never have true consistency in the PL with these managers, you just won't! League's got too many quality tacticians & too many young managers desperate to make a splash who'll pick apart that overly aggressive game plan that never changes.
The players are to blame, not the coach mate
Stick to supporting Chelsea
@@AJBenny159 Maybe for Sunday yeah, but in general you won't go anywhere with this manager. Doesn't matter if he could hand pick his own personal squad from scratch, you'll always have games where the opposition dig in & do a job on you. He's too transparent.
@@HHHBFResurrected sure lad
Romero should have covered Porro on cross for Brighton's first goal but really not Romero 's fault , midfielder should have been there to cover Porro ( defensive midfielder) having seen B winger giving us huge problems all the time. Plan B should have been , keep it tight for 20 minutes , no stupid mistakes , then perhaps a third could have been scored. Instead , Plan A all out attack and we suffered. Third goal was the worst for passive defending. Shocking second half performance and ruins another Sunday. What can you say ?