Great review and really inspiring track! Edit: After watching the whole video: AMAZING review, you even played that lovely piece (which I can't remember the name of) live!
Joshua Bell Violin is the only virtual violin that could pull off The Gravel Road from The Village pretty well. It's not a 100% but it does so much better than any other library I have played. This track reminds me a bit of it, but like a happier version. Hands down the best Violin sample library I have ever played.
I score all my compositions and program key switches to turn on and turn off playing techniques (referred to in JB as articulations). How you use key switches to turn on and off Consord? I can turn on and off SulPont and SulTasto with key switches. And I can turn on Consord with a key switch. But I can't find a way to turn Consord back off with a key switch. I have to manually go to the Articulations screen and click on Sordino to turn it off.
Thanks for posting this Ben. I've just started using this library and, although on it's own it sounds okay, I know that I can get it to sound better but have not been successful doing that yet. I think your demonstration (additional CC editing, edited presets, etc.) will help to get it to sound the way I want it to. Great job! Thank you.
Hi Ben. What a wonderful piece of music and a great demonstration of the library. Listening to your composition was a factor in convincing me to buy the Joshua Bell library. Can I ask you a question regarding cc11 expression please? You mentioned it controls the attack of the note. Is note attack assigned to cc11 expression by default or did you assign it manually? I see there are four different attack types listed in the user guide but no mention of them in the 'control' page. Thanks very much! Rolz.
I think I would want to either write a score obviously for live players; or create a performance-based midi mock up, but not both; alternatively create a performance patch and practice playing a violin on a keyboard with controller; or even use a phrase-based sample library; this demo raises more questions about hat to purchase than it does answers' which actually a good thing. What is needed is an AI Assistant to create the midi mock up!!
You really make it sound realistic! Did you go into the samples and replace each with very particular ones in the sequencer or did you control everything while you played it on the keyboard? I would guess you played it and then meticulously replaced samples with specifics. Is that correct? Sounds really good. Like a live or studio performance or at least real close.
Wow! What a great review and great playing! Really made it more difficult to decide between this and the all new Stradivari bei NI. Do you have this as well? And for me more important: Since you've been pointing out that you love to control vibrato and expression simultaneously, do you own a Roli by now? I wonder if this works well with my Seaboard Rise 49. Do you have a clue or maybe even a comparison to the ne Stradivari bei NI? Thanks in advance! Cheers, Thomas
Thanks for your kind words! Unfortunately I do not have wither the new NI violin or the Seaboard Roli (which sounds like tons of fun) so unfortunately I cannot speak to either question. :/
Sorry to comment on an almost 5 year old video, but are you able to share at all how you configured the Control profile for this? I'm just curious to see how you setup the controls. Also this was such a beautiful piece!
Your demo is amazingly moving, been playing that itself in loop countless times already.. v3 Great work, Mr Botkin !! Thanks a lot for exploring it and showcasing the Violin, think I'll be buying this violin inspired by your demo. Could you please share the other libraries you used for the demo, specially which string library you used ?? thanks.. :)
Thanks, Rohit! The short strings are from Musical Sampling's Adventure Strings, and the sustained and legato strings are from Soaring Strings. The Choir is 8dio's Insolidus Choir and the piano is one by IK multimedia. I think that is it.
My Compliments for this tutorial and your demo. Very very good! I will get this Library for shure. Pardon me for this one question. How can you stand this 120Hz background tone in your studio. It would drive me completely crazy during the day.
I am a complete novice with this type of midi audio editing, but quite experienced with notation programs like Sibelius and Finale. That said, does this work in MacOS? Does this work with as the playback with a notation program like Sibelius where the notes, slurs, articulations, dynamics, etc., are initially notated in the Sibelius program and then fine-tuned using this program?
Hi Joel! Thanks for your kind words! Cubase (the DAW I am running) is cross platform compatible--PC or mac. You can import musicXML files from Sibelius or FInale into Cubase but I do not know how much of Sibelius' performance and dynamics data transfers over to Cubase. I have not tried this. But regardless, you would need to do quite a bit of editing in Cubase after the transferring your notation data over because you can create and control a lot more nuance in the performance via MIDI and Controller Codes than via notation. When I have mocked up pieces for clients in the past based off of notation files, I have done a great deal of changing note start and end points, velocity, and controller code data. Not to mention reverb, panning, and EQ.
Yes... and no. No matter how sophisticated the virtual instruments get, musicianship will always be in demand. At this point, there are so many violinists in the world who can create a better performance in real time with their own, physical violins than I can create with this tool and many painstaking hours of nuanced editing. Real-life ensembles may dip in usage but I believe that (at a minimum) soloists (especially those who are set up to record remotely from home) will be in great demand for a long time.
Everything feels amateur compared to SWAM but you need a lot of work to draw the dynamics, bow presure, bow placement etc. If SWAM had Noteperformer integrated it would be unbeatable even by real violin players.
You must be a violinist feeling threatened. It sounds very very good although.... nothing never ever beats the real thing. But you must be a very, very good violist to top this 'unreal' technical VST Violin
Great review and really inspiring track!
Edit: After watching the whole video: AMAZING review, you even played that lovely piece (which I can't remember the name of) live!
Joshua Bell Violin is the only virtual violin that could pull off The Gravel Road from The Village pretty well. It's not a 100% but it does so much better than any other library I have played. This track reminds me a bit of it, but like a happier version. Hands down the best Violin sample library I have ever played.
A Tip to add to the guide for midis that sound like real : Only play things that can be played on the real instrument ! The Vst is very good!
This demo track is just soo fucking good!
That was a beautiful piece of music you wrote! Thanks for taking the time to share and showcase what this V.I. is capable of!
Thank you for your kind words! Hopefully I'm planning to create screencasts like this more frequently.
Very impressive demonstration. This is my favorite Solo Violin. Keep up the amazing work!
A very good sound. The part with just piano and violin is excellent.
just beautiful
Great musicianship, composing and programming Mr. Botkin!!
Very well written, programmed and edited Sir!
Thanks, Chris!
great demo track! Thank you
My goosebumps refuse to leave me
That is a beautiful piece!
Thanks, Mark!
I score all my compositions and program key switches to turn on and turn off playing techniques (referred to in JB as articulations). How you use key switches to turn on and off Consord? I can turn on and off SulPont and SulTasto with key switches. And I can turn on Consord with a key switch. But I can't find a way to turn Consord back off with a key switch. I have to manually go to the Articulations screen and click on Sordino to turn it off.
As soon as I heard the demo I fell in love with the song! If you can make this a regular thing, I would 1000% watch
Thanks, Expensive Koala! Nice handle, BTW.
Espectacular obra...Elegante, sutil, expresiva. Bravísimo
OMG this is amazing!
wowwwww the demo!!!
Fantastic video and playing. Thank you!
Thanks for posting this Ben. I've just started using this library and, although on it's own it sounds okay, I know that I can get it to sound better but have not been successful doing that yet. I think your demonstration (additional CC editing, edited presets, etc.) will help to get it to sound the way I want it to. Great job! Thank you.
That's nuts.. incredible
Wow! Beautiful piece.
Hi Ben. What a wonderful piece of music and a great demonstration of the library. Listening to your composition was a factor in convincing me to buy the Joshua Bell library. Can I ask you a question regarding cc11 expression please? You mentioned it controls the attack of the note. Is note attack assigned to cc11 expression by default or did you assign it manually? I see there are four different attack types listed in the user guide but no mention of them in the 'control' page.
Thanks very much! Rolz.
Was wondering the very same thing
That demo was fucking fantastic.
I think I would want to either write a score obviously for live players;
or create a performance-based midi mock up, but not both;
alternatively create a performance patch and practice playing a violin on a keyboard with controller; or
even use a phrase-based sample library;
this demo raises more questions about hat to purchase than it does answers' which actually a good thing.
What is needed is an AI Assistant to create the midi mock up!!
Thanks for the video. Love to see one where you demonstrate how to squeeze an extra 10% out of the violin.
The sound of this library is completely amazing! I think that it is the best violin V.I. I ever hard.
Really nice track, thank you for sharing this.
You really make it sound realistic! Did you go into the samples and replace each with very particular ones in the sequencer or did you control everything while you played it on the keyboard? I would guess you played it and then meticulously replaced samples with specifics. Is that correct? Sounds really good. Like a live or studio performance or at least real close.
incredible!
Unbelievable!
Wow. your piece sounds awesome!
You can’t perform trills in real-time?only through keyswitches?
wow wtf was that , just fantastic
Love that this is in Cubase. Which MIDI keyboard are you using and which piano library is that?
Cubase is the bees knees. I'm using an older Yamaha stage keyboard (p120) and the piano sound is from IK Multimedia... Sample Tank 2, I believe.
Wow! What a great review and great playing! Really made it more difficult to decide between this and the all new Stradivari bei NI. Do you have this as well? And for me more important: Since you've been pointing out that you love to control vibrato and expression simultaneously, do you own a Roli by now? I wonder if this works well with my Seaboard Rise 49. Do you have a clue or maybe even a comparison to the ne Stradivari bei NI? Thanks in advance! Cheers, Thomas
Thanks for your kind words! Unfortunately I do not have wither the new NI violin or the Seaboard Roli (which sounds like tons of fun) so unfortunately I cannot speak to either question. :/
Sorry to comment on an almost 5 year old video, but are you able to share at all how you configured the Control profile for this? I'm just curious to see how you setup the controls. Also this was such a beautiful piece!
Your demo is amazingly moving, been playing that itself in loop countless times already.. v3 Great work, Mr Botkin !!
Thanks a lot for exploring it and showcasing the Violin, think I'll be buying this violin inspired by your demo.
Could you please share the other libraries you used for the demo, specially which string library you used ?? thanks.. :)
Thanks, Rohit! The short strings are from Musical Sampling's Adventure Strings, and the sustained and legato strings are from Soaring Strings. The Choir is 8dio's Insolidus Choir and the piano is one by IK multimedia. I think that is it.
Ok, thanks :)
My Compliments for this tutorial and your demo. Very very good! I will get this Library for shure. Pardon me for this one question.
How can you stand this 120Hz background tone in your studio. It would drive me completely crazy during the day.
hi man, what your audio interface use ? the sound so nice good
cubase ^^
bravo...!legendary violist! - he is a violinist...
Oops! Thanks for pointing out the misspelling... Fixed now. Though I'm sure he'd be an excellent Violist as well. :)
I agree
I am a complete novice with this type of midi audio editing, but quite experienced with notation programs like Sibelius and Finale. That said, does this work in MacOS? Does this work with as the playback with a notation program like Sibelius where the notes, slurs, articulations, dynamics, etc., are initially notated in the Sibelius program and then fine-tuned using this program?
Hi Joel! Thanks for your kind words! Cubase (the DAW I am running) is cross platform compatible--PC or mac. You can import musicXML files from Sibelius or FInale into Cubase but I do not know how much of Sibelius' performance and dynamics data transfers over to Cubase. I have not tried this. But regardless, you would need to do quite a bit of editing in Cubase after the transferring your notation data over because you can create and control a lot more nuance in the performance via MIDI and Controller Codes than via notation. When I have mocked up pieces for clients in the past based off of notation files, I have done a great deal of changing note start and end points, velocity, and controller code data. Not to mention reverb, panning, and EQ.
How did you rig the game controller?? Sounded so fluid and intuitive (though I’m sure there was a learning curve)
@benjaminbotkin Beautiful! And the piano in the last piece, which plugin is that? Nice tone also :)
Thanks, Tom! I think that is an IK multimedia Sample Tank piano.
Very nice what speakers do you use?
At the moment: M-Audio BX8a
@@BenjaminBotkin hmm i though that you have better but i guess talent matters more..
sounds good but way too much reverb. I would scale back quite a bit.
yep - that violin convinces...
Can you play Arabic music with this ?
There is a way to control the tuning of each note, so I would say "yes", this can be done.
was all the background strings made only from this library?
No. The background strings are Musical Sampling's Adventure Strings and Soaring Strings.
It appears that in the not too distant future, the need for live musicians will diminish greatly. :(
Yes... and no. No matter how sophisticated the virtual instruments get, musicianship will always be in demand. At this point, there are so many violinists in the world who can create a better performance in real time with their own, physical violins than I can create with this tool and many painstaking hours of nuanced editing. Real-life ensembles may dip in usage but I believe that (at a minimum) soloists (especially those who are set up to record remotely from home) will be in great demand for a long time.
The performances sound awfully bumpy and jumpy to me. They sound great but not seamless. At least in faster passages
Everything feels amateur compared to SWAM but you need a lot of work to draw the dynamics, bow presure, bow placement etc. If SWAM had Noteperformer integrated it would be unbeatable even by real violin players.
It souds unstable and unreal. Each change of the bow is disturbed with an extra noise like a tremolo put through flanger.
It sounded fantastic. Get out of here.
You must be a violinist feeling threatened. It sounds very very good although.... nothing never ever beats the real thing. But you must be a very, very good violist to top this 'unreal' technical VST Violin
I have to agree with you to a certain extent. I thought it would sound a little more realistic to be honest.
You must be sitting on your ears.
Yes I am.