Porcelain Patio Tile Installation: A Step-by-Step Guide from Start to Finish
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ธ.ค. 2019
- Sure, here are some tips on laying a patio:
1. Plan and measure: Before you start laying your patio, make sure you have a clear plan and accurate measurements. This will help you determine the amount of materials you need and ensure that your patio is the right size and shape.
2. Choose the right materials: There are many different materials you can use for your patio, including concrete, pavers, and natural stone. Consider the look you want to achieve, as well as the durability and maintenance requirements of each material.
3. Prepare the area: Before you start laying your patio, you need to prepare the area. This involves removing any grass, weeds, or debris, and leveling the ground. You may also need to add a layer of gravel or sand to create a stable base.
4. Lay the patio: Once the area is prepared, you can start laying your patio. Start at one corner and work your way out, laying each piece of material in a straight line. Use a level to ensure that each piece is even and flat.
5. Cut and shape the materials: Depending on the shape of your patio, you may need to cut and shape some of the materials to fit. Use a saw or chisel to make precise cuts, and wear protective gear to avoid injury.
6. Fill the gaps: Once your patio is laid, you may need to fill in the gaps between the materials. This can be done with sand or gravel, which will help to stabilize the patio and prevent weeds from growing.
7. Add finishing touches: Finally, add any finishing touches to your patio, such as edging or decorative elements. This will help to give your patio a polished and professional look.
Remember, laying a patio can be a challenging and time-consuming project, so don't be afraid to ask for help or hire a professional if you need it. With the right materials and techniques, you can create a beautiful and functional outdoor space that you'll enjoy for years to come. - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
its easy to pick loads of holes in this, lifting techniques 15:47, handling cement with the bare hands 6:40, wearing shorts, and a pair of trainers, kneeling on wet mortar 8:20, that's quite a deep bed under the tiles, 240 cables trailing about the place 13:17, 13:08 no dust mask, but this is a nice job, it looks lovely and clean at the end.
That’s the best comment I’ve ever heard and very well taken you might have a point I confess hands up busted 😂
You’ve put a huge smile on my face so I thank you 👍🏴
David Shields perhaps read full comment and reply donut
David Shields busted 😂 it’s all good 👍
@@christopher6603 🤣🤣🤣 you took your time showing up to the haters party, lockdown must twistings your perpendiculars. Let me guess over priced and wrong colour socks for a tuesday?
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I’ve been building for over 30 years now and it’s so nice to see a professional job done. Credit to you mate and your team. Well done 🇬🇧
Thanks Jason kind words it’s good to have a good team everybody wants to learn and the customers always happy 👍🏴
Nice to watch a video of this that is done properly at all stages! Top job, looks fantastic 👍
Thank you strings glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏴
I think you'll have a lot of fun adding more additions around this beautiful base.
I’m looking forward to going back this summer to take some pics 👍😆
I really enjoyed watching this although it’s something I wouldn’t even attempt. Great explanation and results. Would use this company any day
Katywu Ste thank you katywu glad you enjoyed the video and hopefully it helped you learn the basics 👍🏴
PROPER BLOKE, NICE TO SEE YOU WORK HARD AND YOU CARE ABOUT WHAT YOUR DOING, WITH PASSION,IT LOOKS THE NUTS,CHEERS
Thanks deano glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏴
Great job .... also awesome you are replying to people as well ... sharing knowledge is very commendable... thanks
I’m here to help sharing knowledge is the key to success 👍🏴
This is why I think I will get a professional to do mine.I don't think I would ever get it looking as nice as this.Such a great job!
Thanks Robert glad you enjoyed it 👍🏴
Absolutely amazing job. If that was my patio I would be so reassured right now that my money was spent well. I've just moved into a new build and need to get some paving done in the garden. You just set my bar high. I'm going back and forth between slate (from Wales actually) or porcelain. I like how modern the porcelain tiles look but I also love the rustic natural look of real stone. Either way it's still a lot of money as I'm looking at 80m² in total.
Tough choice contemporary and rustic why not go for both just zone it off with something. Some stone do have some great marbleised patterns that porcelain will never have I do really like that.
My rate for porcelain is £170m2 if that helps stone a bit less
I am from Tunisia and this is exactly how we do our patios and exterior space , some peoples even use Terrazzo tiles . I have some cement tiles that I wanted to lay with Mortar the same way you did here , and everyone I asked here in Florida was like chocked lol 😂 they only lay sand here and lay pavers on top of it that’s it . No ones uses cement to lay pavers or tiles outside ... i finally tried to do the job and I am almost done , it was a first experience and not bad . But you did an amazing job in this video .
Glad to here your job went well using the same method 👍 so many Americans say it has to be on a concrete pad it drives me insane this is the method we use over here and it’s perfectly fine.
th-cam.com/video/tdKZ4eyo5nE/w-d-xo.html. Enjoy your weekend from Wales 👍🏴
Nice job, Caerphilly mountain snack bar is up there with the best, have one every week 👌
We snack in the same place then shame there latte machines a bit shit
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Nice job mate laid these about a month ago. Easy tile too work with and look really good
I much prefer to lay porcelain than sandstone these days 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping Only coz they're lighter.
That is a beautiful patio. Wow!
Thanks for watching I’m almost ready to post the latest patio midweek 👍🍻
Perfect job looks great 👍🏼
Thx josh glad you enjoyed it 👍🏴
Mint job. Very well done. Nice and tidy.
Michael Davis cheers mike glad you enjoyed it Tidy 👍🏴
Best jobs in world tiling and block paving. Great job.
Cheers Jay 👍🏴
Tell that to my knees, back and ankles 😂😂 great job done tho 👍🏻
Quality job mate. Keep up the awesome work 👍
Thx Gary glad you enjoyed it 👍🏴
Nice to watch people that know what their doing classy job.
Thanks ranter I love my job it’s very creative 👍🏴
Lovely job lads👍🏻
Thx Vincent 👍🏴
Lovely job! 👍
Thank you El guapo glad you enjoyed it 👍🏴
Good job from a fellow cardiffian 👍
Cheers rob loverly day out there today hey 👍🏴
Looks really good mate, another very good job, well done, thanks for posting from Garry in Barnsley
Thanks Gary glad you appreciate the other video to that was the first video I made when I actually spoke to the camera 👍🏴
Amazing job,well done
Thanks Mary glad you enjoyed the video plenty more like that on my channel 👍🏴
Love it thanks mate
Glad you enjoyed that Pete 👍🏴
Beautiful work!!!
Thanks Savannah I’m actually working on that job at the moment doing some work on a man cave 👍🏴
Really well done.
Cheers AR GLAD YOU ENJOYED IT 👍🏴
Amazing job
Cheers hefrys glad you enjoyed it 👍🏴
Very nice job, thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed the video Crusader 👍🏴 The man cave video I just uploaded recently is the same property
Scott thats really awesome job mate nice one
Nice looking patio that going back in a couple of days to take some new pics 👍🏴
@Tidybricks Landscaping, great workmanship! Your videos / tutorials are some of the best on You Tube. Good to see you're showing all steps and not hiding any trade secrets. How do you work out your tile pattern / layout beforehand considering it's a bit of a puzzle with the different size tiles? Do you have many cuts to make on the outer edge? Cheers.
I went with the pattern layout provided but you might not notice I kind of screwed the pattern a bit at one point. Still looks the biz mostly down to having a boarder around the edge as a picture frame as I call it. That did take all bank holiday Monday to do but really with that extra effort 👍🏴
Great job 👍
Thanks mate 👍🏴
Lovely job 👏👏
Cheers Andrew another patio video coming up in a week 👍🏴
Good job man 🇬🇧👏😷👍
Thanks scrote wart glad you enjoyed the watch 👍🏴
Excellent job
Thx Jeff 👍🏴
I have always been a fan of blinding down type 1 bases especially for gravel drive and recently for a patio. Thinking about your bedding mix would you consider using a Pan style mixer? Something like the Baron Mixers the screed guys use? Impressive video by the way.
Just googled those mixers they look the biz 👍 I could get a conveyor too same place shit I need a bigger van
I love type one you can almost sculpt with it
I remember one of my first patios where I used it but didn’t know you had to wet it !!! I was a very dusty garden in the end lucky for me it was all well contained within the garden walls
Just remembered it was paving phew 😅
Fantastic job.
Glad to see someone who actually knows what he's talking about. .
Please can you send link to tiles and grout .👍👍
Thanks for watching the video glad you enjoyed the tutorial part of it here is the link. 👍🏴. www.marshalls.co.uk/gardens-and-driveways
@@tidybrickslandscaping thanks ..... never show the wife.. you know what I've got to do now ..🥺🤣🤣
Top job lads
Thanks honey glad you enjoyed it 👍🏴
Nice job. My guys do like to use a slightly wetter mix, but there will be no problem with the primer use. Its amazing how many so called Landscapers who dont use the slurry on porcelain slabs telling customers it will be fine! 👍
Years ago I always used a bricklaying type mix for laying slabs then I watched a couple of Marshall’s online TH-cam videos on mix texture and it was a lot drier than I would normally use so I went with that never looked back. And yes it’s all about the primer the most important part of tile installation it sticks like glue once down you’ll never get it up unless you smash it up.
Thanks for the message Michael always good to hear from fellow landscapers 👍🏴
John Bowkett been a Brickie 33 years already wow I feel old !! today’s my 50th in lockdown ffs 👍🏴
John Bowkett good man setting the standards of what’s still expected good stuff 👍
Very professional job. Nice work! let me know if you ever passing Hereford ;-)
Thanks Raymond I’ve had offers all over the country in the past couple of months. Thank you for thinking of me 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping Really is great to see such pride and quality in a job. Good luck to you.
Awesome video and work! Keep it up! Could you please advise how to prepare the floor before laying the tiles. What materials to lay and in which order? Many thanks.
I believe I went into every detail in the video. 100mm hardcore 40mm cement
Looking good
Thanks joe too job that got plenty more of that type of thing in my channel 👍🏴
A brickie for 45 years . Done acres of paving too ... you're work is class , and proper . The way it should be . ☺
Thanks john yeh can’t afford to be shoody on here I’ll get ripped to bits 👍🏴
I wish we could see the cutting process, I would like to see how you cut the porcelain so perfect.
Thanks a lot
Here’s another one I did not so long ago hope this helps th-cam.com/video/gjwvPJu53Ks/w-d-xo.html
I love this video. It has inspired me to do some DIY but when needing something this good as in the vid, I'd ask you guys to do it and I'd happily pay top dollar for it.
Thanks you wellardme I’m glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏴
A semi dry lean mix is also a vital part of the drainage, it allows any water that passes through the grout joint to seep through to the sub base and then into the ground below instead of sitting between the slab and cement bed, which could freeze during the winter months and lift a slab.
This is very often over looked
Very informational Luke and well said you’re not a novice of this game then I take it 👍🏴
Tidybricks Landscaping we have laid a tile or two in our time.
Great work keep it up.
Check this baby out I did before that
th-cam.com/video/9V7422NAKqU/w-d-xo.html
@@tidybrickslandscaping I don't think that type of grout let's the water through?
Mark Neilson no it doesn’t it’s a solid mortar that resists algae too unlike the
Porous grouts that I find never really set that hard as you can push a screw driver it normally after a week or two.
Looks a like a great quality job. Sorry if you said but what colours where two tiles you laid?
Marshall’s grey and a barley boarder course. They compliment each other well I think 👍🏴
Excellent work looks really pleasing to the eye... How did you level the gravel before the wacker?
The digger did most of the levelling and good old shovel work to fine tune 👍🏴
Thanks for sharing, I learned a lot. Did you over cut one of the tiles around the larger drain cover? That would drive me crazy right in front of the door.
Thanks for watching Sebastian no that was just a pencil mark I wish I rubbed it off before I started filming 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping Phew! I thought it odd that you would have left it in
Sebastian Lakes perish the thought I’d have to give it up if that was allowed 👍🏴
Great job. What size spacers do you recommend using with outdoor porcelain tiles?
5mm every time just right 👍🏴
Tidy job on the installation!! Glad to have professionals like you still around :) Do you know if I can use a 10mm outdoor rated tile wet set into concrete? I talked to the manufacturer in their warehouse and they say that the tile and the pacer are the exact same thing except the paver is thicker...Is there something I should know before trying to install some 10mm outdoor floor rated tiles outside? Thanks in advance, keep up the great work!!!
Well if it’s a outdoor tile then I suppose it’s fine. You don’t always have to tile on concrete a flexible bed 100 type1 mot hardcore base like I do is totally fine 👍🏴
Really nice job but as previous comments cant get my head round such a dry mix but every ones preference is different
Semi dry or wet it all dries the same but it’s more difficult if you use a wetter mix they can move more and excess cement rises to the top through the joints and makes the face of the tile dirty. As long as you use a good primer it’ll set the same.
Actually just uploaded a new video today using the primer. 👍🏴
Beautiful job.i have a porcelain patio at home but struggle to keep it clean its quiet porous so gets a lot of rust spots from furniture. Would you recommend sealing patio. Tanx
Hi Alan yes that’s true you can get rust marks such a shame but easily solved. There’s a company called lithofin they sell a cleaner called rust ex try that it works for me 👍🏴 hope this helps
In Thailand I know a good tiler that also does this and is very good at it.. He does it all with lines and a transparent hose as level
That’s the old school way of getting levels and it works just as good as some gizmo that does the same. 👍🏴
Built the pyramids with water levels Def old school but hey it works
Hi mate you do a Sterling job just came across your channel the other day now subbed. Am a bricklayer haven’t done to much of the porcelain slabs done small job with them. Mostly Indian slate style slabs few others put them down pretty much same as your self. Must say your finished work is of a high standard very well explained videos. Keep up the good work. 👍🏻😎
The porcelain slabs are so much easier than Indian sandstone because they can vary in size and you end up with shit joints but the porcelain slabs are all calibrated every single one the same size which makes your life so much easier same spacers all day. 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping
Haven’t used spacers but will look into that on next job. 👍🏻🏴
Good job 👍
Thank you manpreet glad you enjoyed it 👍🏴
Were you getting high at the 1:11 mark?!🤣 All jokes aside, you showed me a much better way to do grout on my current patio project! Working smarter, not harder!
The answer is possibly lol and this was one of the first times I used this type grout and technique has changed slightly 👍🏴
Hi Tidybrick. Really enjoyed this and other videos you've made. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and skills. So... Please can you give an estimate number of years this patio will last before any shifting or movement takes place?
Thanks for watching as for the answer well if prepared properly then it should last a life time hard to stay stick around and I’ll post something if it moves but that might be 20/30 years plus possibly 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping lol i just might still be watching😁
When you put down mortar for the tiles how long do you wait after its spreader to start cleaning?
Fantastic job 👌
If you mean the Marshalls exterior jointing grout then watch my mate Dave he’ll explain in more detail th-cam.com/video/jX_hs_wjBiM/w-d-xo.html
Nice job. Can you lay porcelin tiles straight on top of damp sharp sand without wet mix?
You’ll need a hardcore base first then a cement bed my friend. Otherwise it’ll just move about with sand 👍🏴
That looks so amazing. I am actually trying to research a question someone asked me. Do you know what would be the best method for laying rock from a quarry on a concrete patio? I believe it is limestone and will be cut down into planks like tile.
Hi terry I believe I can help out on this question. My method would be to use a cement primer on the underside of the stone then just a regular cement mix on the concrete base to help bind together like glue. Hope this helps any further query’s just ask 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping Okay that makes sense. Would it be over kill to prime the concrete before putting the sand mix concrete down?
Terry Stevens brilliant idea that works perfectly triple suction it’s never go anywhere 👍🏴. Prime as you go then all fresh it’s max stick power
It would be overkill depending on the thickness cement you’ll be using. If it’s tight yeh maybe otherwise just the tile would be ok
Nice to see a job well done.. always hear conflicting advice with porcelain, so much so its actually put me off laying it as some say concrete base, others say type 1 is enough. Ill Look forward to my first one now
Hey john it’s all good you most likely will enjoy using when you get your first contract for it, I laid stone for years loved it but always hated stone sizes always varied in size so you ended up with tight joints wide joints drove me insane but here’s where the porcelain comes in every tile exactly the same as the last finally you can use spaces and that helps you out in the long run but y0u will need a new type saw and be advisable to get a table saw because now you’ll have to be millimetre perfect 👌
About your question on laying on type1 or concrete either way will work, I normally lay on type1 but will be moving on up and start laying on concrete with a polished surface then you could use a screeding trowel and put them down as you would tiling a indoor ceramic floor.
More prep work but a very speedy ending flat as a pancake
any questions mate feel free
Stay safe 👍🏴
Great job mate I'm a tiler from Scotland have u ever used the lashing system for the tiles gives great finish basically it's a lash with hole up the joint was a big wedge stay safe mate
Looks beautiful. Nice work. How much stone dust have you put down on top of the type 1 and did you compact it? Cheers
For that job I think I got a extra 2 ton just to fine tune levels and yes always compact just spray a bit of water over and it compacts really well 👍🏴
Another fantastic job love your videos mate when can you come to Birmingham to do mine ?
Try this link and you’ll get some of my mates local to you. Just say I sent you 👍🏴www.marshalls.co.uk/gardens-and-driveways/approved-garden-and-driveway-installers
I've had medium grey porcelain tiles laid and they get dirty really easily. They are matt finish (not glazed). Should I be sealing these?
You don’t need to seal porcelain tiles maybe just buy a good squeegee brush 👍🏴
Looks nice mate
Not to shabby 👍🏴 check out my last one
Sir i have old pavers in my pergola and i want to do tiling over it, can i do tiling straightaway over the pavers, thanks
I wouldn’t say it’s a good idea no mostly for the pact pavers are normally laid on sand and that wouldn’t give it any low level strength needs to be a hardcore base at least. check what’s under the pavers first then get back to me 👍🏴
Thank you for this video, I’ve had porcelain tiles laid wrongly, builders came back and removed them but never came back to lay them, I’m disabled and needed it all flush with my doors, slot drain is in front of doors, now I have a concrete patio with tile adhesive stuck to it and all my 600 x 600 porcelain tiles are a mess. The levels were all wrong and the tiles started moving because the adhesive was coming up the sides where the grout should be. My question is do we smash up the patio and start again or can the patio be saved and levelled, also the tiles have adhesive and grout stuck to them how do I get them clean? My patio is about the same size as this one, I can’t afford to get a professional in now but I’m hoping you will be able to give me some advice. Thank you
Sounds like 2 options rip it up all of it as the levels are wrong anyways so it’ll all have to go or possibly you kind of make do with what’s there and get it cement finished and live with it, whatever the route you’ll be taking it is very unfortunate situation you’re in.
Here is a way of finding top landscapers www.marshalls.co.uk/gardens-and-driveways/approved-garden-and-driveway-installers
Tidybricks Landscaping thank you for replying, I guess I’m stuck with a mess and a pile of tiles until I win the lottery.
Great video I’m going to be laying a patio for the first time soon can you tell how much sharpe sand and cement I will need the size of the patio is 5m x 3m many thanks
35mm cement bed you’ll need 1 tonne of sand and about 10 bags of cement that a 4/1 ratio hope that help 👍🏴
This is the calculator I use source4me.co.uk/calculate_sub_base.php?tab=0
Thanks for that
nice work, how did you get away with not doing an envelope cut on the L shape of the house is all the patio falling in 1 direction? whats the difference with your primer and an sbr primer that I use for tiling?
The patio actually goes in two directions away from the house as I had plenty of space to slope it.
I would use sbr on sandstone because it can soak into the stone being porous and a cement primer for tiles
Thanks for watching 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping I really enjoyed it I will look forward to your next video.
Can you show how you level out the lines and how you lay out the first and second tile either end of the patio.
Stay safe
What's your process for measuring out the fall. Do you measure out level using pegs then measure down or use a laser level?
Pegs don’t trust my laser lever anymore think it needs calibrating.. 👍🏴
Tidy job Boyo :) Can I ask your advice on jointing against the house , do you use the same gap as the other tiles or a bigger gap where the tiles meet the house ?
I’ll always use a bigger gap against the house normally 10mm just incase the brickwork is running out of square a bit
5mm spaces for the tiles 👍🏴
Usually I'll they use concrete mix to get a flooring, level it, then tile by thin set, grout to finish. In this here I see a semi dry/wet mix the some type of bond on the tile , then a liquid pour of something then powerwash... seems to work here but I'm guessing there is many ways to tile
There’s lots of ways do lay a patio it’s not rocket science really 👍🏴
Hi, great job as said by all. So many different ways to lay it but what is your stance on laying it on a QPC?
Morning British man not sure what QPC is 👍🏴
Tidybricks Landscaping I think he meant PQC it stands for Paving quality concrete, it’s a lean, dry concrete mix, whacked on top of the type 1 it forms part of a rigid paving system. Your fellow welshman Johnny boy from landscaping survival teaches about it.
Nice chaps
Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏴
Great job 👍🏻 I'm a tiler to trade and we are doing our own garden in the next few weeks. I'm considering using 20mm porcelain for patio but I am worried about the Scottish weather (rain) eventually finding a way through the groutung and when the frost comes the tiles might come loose (hollow) from base.
Is this something you have ever come across before .. TIA
Hi Christopher if it’s done right then it’ll be fine. As for the porcelain it’s as tough as they get so it’s a better choice over some sandstone products otherwise. Just make sure they don’t tot and dab the corners when laying. It’s got to be a full bed then it should be fine as nothing could get through the joints that way. A liquid grout is the new way to go it’ll fill any gaps that might be there.
Hope this helps 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping perfect thanks for the reply .
Howya Tidy... Great work. Quick question please. Could you cut 20mm R11 outdoor porcelain with a Rubi TZ ? Doing a small DIY project and need to split a few tiles in half. Very hard to hire wet plunge saws round here. Thanks
Just had a look at the ruby saw and no I don’t think it would cut 20 mm porcelain that would only do 10 I would say 👍🏴
Maybe track down a local installer to your area and ask them if they could cut it for you problem solved I will do that if you asked 👍🏴
I have been tiling for several years but due to start my first outdoor porcelain job around a summer house and hot tub instal. I am concerned about the drain away, once I have layed a tile, from the summer house as it is resting on an inch rubber matting, ontop of the concrete base, thus not leaving room for a fall. Can I cut a drain away into the tile
Hard decision to make Steven as the porcelain tile is about 22mm I’m depth so only leaving a couple of mm to play with. Possibly if you can raise the matting slightly to allow for you to give it a fall ? You could always make cuts on the tile but hard to say without seeing it. You could email me some pics at scottbaker@tidybricks.co.uk and I could try figure it out with you no problem I’m here to help anyone 👍🏴
lovely job but little things can spoil it like the over cuts on the tile around the main square drain. I find its those things that caught me out in the past.
Those little details make all the difference 👍🏴
Just pencil marks.
Hi yeah a brilliant job and I noticed the over cuts but I think they are possibly pencil lines the other thing I noticed is the joint line been close on the border but only a minor nit pick brill job overall
What were your depths 100 for compact stone and then how much for mortar, is their gravel in the mortar
100mm of type 1 mot crushed stone and the between 30/40 mm of cement for the tiles to lay on. 👍🏴
I don't get how the jointing compound in the joints doesn't get washed away when using the power washer. Surely the compound will be wetter in the joint than on the surface of a slab with the sun on it.. Your answer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Hi Lewis basically this material is just rapid setting grout it can be used on any material but if you do it wrong your up shit street ! Here’s my mate Dave Jessop he’ll explain it in detail.. good luck
th-cam.com/video/jX_hs_wjBiM/w-d-xo.html
thats a big job, looks really good :)
Cheers john glad you enjoyed It 👍🏴
Great video and great work. After watching this I have just laid flags in my garden for the first time, although mine are a riven sandstone and seem pretty porous, I don’t think the grout you used would be a good idea for mine, I’m looking at using larsen’s. What else could you recommend? And would you suggest using a sealant too? Many thanks :-)
thelegand1 thanks for watching as for the grout I don’t use any other type especially not the polymeric type that’s useless. There are other liquid type of grout and you can use on sandstone too I have many times already but you’ve got to be quicker on your toes.
As for a sealant I wouldn’t use it on a fresh patio for at least 6\12 months after laying to let any possible salt out otherwise you can trap the salt in the slab under the sealant and it will then bubble up and look really bad I’ve made that mistake once before never to be repeated.
Also here’s my Dave to explain th-cam.com/video/jX_hs_wjBiM/w-d-xo.html
Tidybricks Landscaping just been watching some of your other videos. Thanks for replying so fast :-) will follow that link now, cheers!
thelegand1 here to help 👍
Tidybricks Landscaping just clicked the link I’ve actually already seen that video when I after I looking into the grout you used. I can’t find any local retailers which even sell Marshall’s anyway but tbh I think I’d prefer a silver/grey or white grout to match my platinum coloured slabs better, as I’m aware marshalls is only available in charcoal and natural?
thelegand1 new colours coming soon apparently and as for the retailers not selling it 🤷♂️ I just ask and they send but I have been shown how to use it by them before they would let me use it so that might have something to do with it. Because if you fuck it up you’re screwed it’ll be ruined. So if you do use it make sure you got all the gear before you start mixing. I can be stressful especially in the summer
Great video. I’m soon to lay a porcelain patio at home. I’m a landscaper but haven’t laid porcelain before and I’m not experienced with drainage which is the part I struggle with most especially on a large patio. My patio is 6.5m deep so not sure what to do about drainage. 6.5m seems a bit long to just slope it away from the house on to the lawn as the drop will be quite a lot over hat distance. Any recommendations? Thanks very much!
Hi Rupert I’m here to help where I can as for the drainage for this new patio the rule of thumb is for every 1 meter away from the house the height should drop down be 10mm so over your distance 6.5m it’s only 65mm depth of a brick so not to noticeable.. and if it’s your first time laying porcelain when you make cuts you’ll need a porcelain blade and you must cut wet water to stop the tiles from chipping. I lay porcelain all the time now years ago I only laid stone which is fine but I always hated stone slabs being different sizes all the time. Porcelain tiles are all exactly the same size which helps so much allows you to use 5 mm spaces too.
Keep me up to date for anything else
Scott
Tidybricks Landscaping Hi Scott, thanks for your reply. Can I just buy a porcelain blade for my angle gender or do I need to purchase an actual wet saw cutter? If I so can you recommend one that’s suitable for a one off job? I don’t really want to pay huge money for something I may only use once. Thanks again. Ru
Rupert you can get a Rubi porcelain dry blade for your grinder 4 inch about £30 from tile shop Rubi tvr pro porcelain dry blade great blade I'm a tiler and use them day in day out mate stay safe from scotland
@@rupertwaspe344 Hire a wet cut bridge cutter with porcelain blade (if you dont have a suitable one), that way the cuts are dead strait ,and its a hell of a lot easier !
Really like those tile stealth cover to hide drains and what not underneath. I wish I could like find similar for my irrigation cover. Do you know what those are called? TIA
They were called recessed manhole covers 👍🏴
Excellent video. What joining gap/ space did you leave between tiles? Looks like 4mm or so? Really nice finish. Getting ready to lay mine!
5mm spaces tight is right I say 👍 so what type of patio are you gong for 👍🏴
Thanks for the quick reply. 5mm it is then. Looking for a very similar finish to this but with 900 x 450 slabs. Not quite decided on exactly what I'm going for yet. Love the edge tile on this patio. I was going for gravel but changed my mind now, will be doing something very similar. Thank you
nice high class work on show in this video chaps so you are saying to lay 50 mm of mot hard core times two = 100 mm compacted hardcore . what size mot should it be ? what thickness should the bed off sharp sand be ? just trying to get my measurements the correct depth from my string lines which i presume should be minimun off two bricks down from dpc then the hard core and sharpsand and tile thickness all measured together will give the approx correct depth from the string line for digging out the earth thankyou so much for making these videos best regards mark
All correct but the sharp sand is a cement mix between 30/40 mm don’t forget to allow 10mm fall away from the house every 1m you go out. It’s always around 150mm dig out 👍🏴
Scalping are 30mm to dust
Type 1 mot is the name
thankyou for your reply most helpfull indeed cheers from liverpool all the best to you all in south wales
Hi just just wondering... I want a raised patio to be the same level as the internal flooring but this means the patio will be at dpc level. Is it satisfactory for me to insert a gap with an eco drain or french drain between the house and the raised patio so they don’t actually touch?
Thanks!
no problem id use a slot aco drain against the house
Hi bud. Do you like using a a semi dry mix as you are laying on a large morter bed. I do the same and find it easier to control the bed structure when having to play with falls a lot. Great video.
As for the mixture I did for that patio go for a semi dry type mix and now started using patio clips to bond them together allowing me to use a normal mix and actually it’s working well. I’ve got another video of me using them every job now. 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping thanks for your reply 👍
Nice
Thanks bobby glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏴
Great video. We want to lay our own porcelian tiles. When we had builders round to do the front they laid hardcore and compacted it. Do we then just need to lay the sharp sand directly onto this or do we need to mix the sand with cement first? Sorry if it's a stupid question. Also what did you put on top of the hardcore? You suddenly have the top layer of the base down but don't say what it is. Thanks
Hi Charlotte yes correct on the hardcore base then it’s a cement mix between 30/40mm deep here’s my tips video 👍🏴
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@@tidybrickslandscaping Thanks :) Did you put a layer of stone dust before the cement mix and compact it down?
Yes I did just to fine tune the levels. When compacted it feels like concrete very compact. 👍
What did you use to cut the tiles. Can they be cut with a consaw and diamond blade just like sandstone or limestone slabs?
You’ll need porcelain blades and cut with water to prevent chipping . Try this guy on his name is Phil he supplies nearly all Marshall’s installers with blades. He’s on Twitter @pulvexdiamond
Lovely job. Found it stressful watching the slurring in 😂 all that hard work could be undone if you didn’t get that right 😬
Stressful times doing the liquid grouting these days still feels really wrong in doing that way. Must be fully prepared every time in case it goes off to quick 👍🏴
Do you have to use an adhesive for porcelain slabs ? I was told they do not stick well to mortar ?
That reason is because they have quite a smooth back to the tile so yes always good to use a primer.
I always use this one. www.marshalls.co.uk/gardens-and-driveways/product/paving-primer
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Fantastic video, mate! Hello from the other side of the world. Question - in several years of research for patio projects, this is the first time I've ever seen a method where you lay concrete out as you put out the tile. I think it's brilliant. What do you find the benefits of this method over just pouring a cement slab then putting down the file first? (It *seems* to me like this method would crack easily because it doesn't have expansion lines in the concrete base.)
Thanks for watching Christopher but I must quickly say no concrete was used on this job the base consists of hard-core 100 mm and then around 50 mm cement the tiles laid on there no need for expansion joints as the ground is flexible from the hard-core 👍🏴
Thanks for watching from the other side of the world
@@tidybrickslandscapinghe means the mix you used to lay the pavers, concrete is cement mixed with aggregate, granted the aggregate (stones) are bigger in ballast but ising sharp sand is still a concrete mix
@@danielsaccone7501 we do it differently to you guys across the pond don’t forget it only foot traffic concrete is overkill
The cement ratio is 4/1 sharp sand mix 👍🏴
Can I ask why you don't use those spacers with the wind down tops as in other videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge 🙏
They weren’t available then or I didn’t know about em dunno 🤷 👍🏴
Great video and very informative. What is the size of the spacer between each porcelain?
Hi and I used 5mm spaces and glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏴
My patio slopes away from house and I want to put aco drain at bottom of patio. There is no pitch on patio going across the way. So how do I pitch the aco drain across the patio as it wouldn't be flush at other end as it would be a few inches lower
Why do you want drainage at the bottom of the patio can’t you just let the water soak into the grass
I've laid a few patios in the past few years starting with cheap concrete slabs on a wet mix but easy to level but do move around alot then tried a drier mix with some heavy sawn yorkies a bit harder and slower to lay but I think personally better in the long run
Well said Martin totally agree it’s a better installation process and hope your still enjoying the day job 👍🏴
What do you d when it's raining with the grouting ? And can this be used on Indian sandstone? Cheers
That’s particular grout can’t be done in the rain as the grout will dilute to much. As for sandstone it works really well but you got to be on the ball with the pressure washer 👍🏴
Thanks
I use these at work. What cutter are you using to cut tiles/slabs
I use my rubi table saw and I’ve got a flex wet saw cs60 works a treat 👍🏴