I love everything about Wild, except that it did not work for me… i really wanted to love it and I stuck it out for 2 months (in order for my body to get used to it) but I had to go back to my old deodorant as I just kept smelling so bad. But then again, I use those extra strong multiple day protection ones and even those fail on certain days…. So for everyone who is a bit of a smelly belly in the pit- departement: i don’t recommend wild.😅😂 for everyone else: go give it a try 😝
I feel like this is the perfect place to remind people of Dolly Parton and her husband. There's maybe four public photos of them together?? None are within the last 20 years. From what we (as the public) do know about him, he's always been so supportive of her music career and has had no desire to share any of her spotlight. I do support the idea that famous-"civilian" relationships work best in the long run.
Dolly and her husband are rumored to be in a lavender marriage based on safety from homophobia... so I wouldn't tout it as the example of Celebrity Love That Lasts
@@uschilouin regular life relationships partners fulfil many roles - emotional, sexual, financial, social, spliting chores, raising children etc. Celebs have got everything covered, so they only need the entertainment side of a relationship. It can get old pretty quick, so they switch partners
@PettyBlue1 Very true. It's a blessing, really but idk why they have to enter a legally binding contract. That's the only part I don't understand. Just date.
i love when i forget that celebrities are married, like i learned one day that ryan gosling and eva mendes were married with children and i forget that fact constantly. same for kristen dunst and jesse plemons, I'm like a child with no object permanence, if it's not in front of me, I'll totally forget
Honestly, I think that those celebrity couples that exist under the radar are the one's with the best track record. It's the relationships that burn hot and bright in the intense glare of media scrutiny, the Bennifer's of the world, that are the ones that implode the fastest. On the other side of the celebrity couple coin, I remember that I was absolutely shocked when I learned that Jamie Lee Curtis and Christopher Guest have been together since before I was born. They seem like such cool people and I'm fascinated at the idea of what their life together is like.
A friend dated a very famous, very famously hot, hockey player for a few months, and she got annoyed by how many women would proposition him right in front of her while they were out trying to enjoy a date.
Any famous person can get any person they want. And they know it. Not to mention busy and conflicting schedules. I'm sure its rare for a celebrity to be down to earth and not full of themselves as well. Not to mention the bad drug problem in the Hollywood world. So its really not a shock that any couple breaks up.
the marriage foundation saying people who say they're unhappy in they're marriage say they're happier ten years after their first child. as if i want to have a kid with someone i dont like and hope i might be happier in a decade instead of just getting a divorce lmao
I really hope that it was people being unhappy after the birth of the kid, because having to deal with a newborn is enough to make anyone unhappy even in an otherwise good situation.
I think it’s that idea that society didn’t allow us to openly complain about marriage and family that could get us in trouble and lose resources if u depend on either. So they say this bc having children gives purpose and people tend to sympathize with u if u do and it’s easier to give purpose-it’s not about happiness bc in the end many people believe it’s part of their destiny or purpose bc it’s been super ingrained in our culture for centuries. Now we are now seeing its pitfalls more openly thus this saying no longer holds
Understandable. I am already happier in my marriage after 4 years. It get's easier. You don't have to compete for time to sleep anymore, that does a lot for marriage satisfaction.
Yeah, make a whole ass human for whom you are responsible and whose life you could utterly wreck if you're not careful. That will make things MUCH easier on your strained relationship! Good lord.
@@TaraMooknee there's a Disney Channel show dad that one of my friends went to school with and she said he's always been a toxic diva, but got worse after getting on Disney. I always wonder if the celebs who are constantly getting divorced are the fully realized potential of actors like him.
I'm not entirely surprised by the glut of divorces in the 30s and 40s tbh. Men were pretty misogynistic back then and I'm sure being famous actresses probably gave them a lot more freedom then the average women would have had. So the average woman would have no choice but to stay in a shitty relationship, but a woman with money and _some_ degree of independent social power? It was probably easier for her to just drop the hot sack of crap...while at the same time being pressured by societal norms _to be married_ meaning instead of just staying single, a quick remarriage followed by another divorce. idk, interesting.
Also there was no hormonal birth control yet, and it was a huge scandal to have a child out of wedlock (see, for instance, Loretta Young contriving to “adopt” her own child fathered by Clark Gable). If a famous actress wanted to go to bed with a man, it was the safer route to marry him first (setting aside that people were generally more conservative and religious and may have just felt guilty for sleeping together whilst unmarried). But sexual attraction alone is of course not a recipe for a lasting relationship, hence why so many Golden Age Hollywood stars have 3-5 marriages under their belt. Nowadays people will just date instead of serially marrying.
Comments such as this, that are pure speculation and without any supporting evidence have become the norm. Idiots like Jordan Peterson, Konstantin, and Douglas Murray spread misinformation and deliberate lies,without ant supporting evidence, that are accepted at face value because no one bothers to fact check. We now have populations of misinformed idiots in the west that follow suit. You have 281 upvotes from idiots who have done no research and haven't got a clue as to the cause. As I do research before I open my big mouth and have studied psychology, including this topic, the cause is a histrionic personality disorder, and 70% of those with it are women and incapable of being faithful. It has nothing to do with misogyny, it is personality disorder that is prominent amongst females, that is due to the nature of the disorder itself. Histrionic personality disorder is a Cluster B personality disorder characterized by excessive attention-seeking, emotionality, inappropriate seductiveness and an obsession with one’s appearance. Have you ever met someone who seemed to be highly emotional, theatrical, dramatic, obsessed with their appearance and overly seductive in their interactions with others? Someone who couldn’t stand not being the center of attention? Someone who would consistently go to extreme lengths just to draw attention back to themselves whenever anyone threatened to take the spotlight from them? You may have come across someone with the traits of Histrionic Personality Disorder. The Traits of Histrionic Personality Disorder According to the DSM, people with Histrionic Personality Disorder are incredibly self-centered, are constantly seeking reassurance and approval and engage in inappropriate seductive behavior across a wide variety of contexts (including social, academic, occupational and professional). More women than men are usually diagnosed with this disorder. Whether this is because more women than men actually do meet the criteria for the disorder or because female sexual displays tend to be more stigmatized remains up for debate. Histrionic individuals engage in very dramatic behavior with exaggerated displays of emotion and an impressionistic style of speaking that come off as disingenuous to discerning onlookers. Their emotions are so rapidly shifting and shallow that it can be difficult to determine exactly how authentic their emotions are or to what extent they are using their emotions to manipulate others. Interpersonally, they tend to be highly suggestible people whose opinions can change on a whim. They tend to perceive relationships to be more intimate than they actually are. Histrionic Personality Disorder is also one of the few disorders which is directly tied to a person’s appearance. A person with histrionic traits will dress provocatively and demonstrate a hyperfocus on how they look. This can range from spending hours on their makeup to spending excessive amounts of time on sculpting the “perfect” body. The Histrionic Personality in Relationships: Seduction, Drama and Provocation The histrionic female’s insatiable need for attention, combined with their tendency to overstep the boundaries of others and flirt with anyone and everyone in the near vicinity, can cause issues in their relationships and friendships. These individuals are likely to emotionally and physically cheat on their partners and also seduce those who are already in committed relationships. They are also likely to use their sexuality inappropriately to get ahead at school or at work. According to Christine Hammond, LMHC (2015), while female narcissists dress seductively to achieve a certain agenda or goal (such as impressing someone), a histrionic female will don revealing clothing across any and all situations. Her provocative clothing, combined with overly seductive behavior, manufactures scenarios where she is indeed put into the spotlight - often to the detriment of her loved ones. For histrionic females, this can cause issues specifically in her friendships with other women, because many histrionic females tend to flirt with and attempt to seduce the significant others of their friends. As Dr. Bressert (2017) writes: “Individuals with this disorder often have impaired relationships with same-sex friends because their sexually provocative interpersonal style may seem a threat to their friends’ relationships. These individuals may also alienate friends with demands for constant attention. They often become depressed and upset when they are not the center of attention.” The traits of Histrionic Personality Disorder can overlap with traits of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Borderline Personality Disorder, Antisocial Personality Disorder as well as Bipolar Disorder (Burgess, 1992; Hamburger et. al, 1996; Ghouse et. al, 2013). The overlap with these disorders is not surprising. A histrionic personality’s insatiable attention-seeking can mirror the entitlement of the narcissist to be at front and center. Their bubbly, vivacious and energetic theatricality can easily be mistaken for mania. Their blatant self-absorption and need for constant stimulation can be similar to the lack of empathy and need for novelty present in an antisocial personality, while their high degree of emotionality can also resemble borderline traits.
@@wawis231 I always figured that some celebs PR teams control what they do in public, so you have a group of people instruct how you have your relationships in public,paired with them essentially trying to be together while countless people have parasocial relationships with them. And in the age of the internet, it’s hard to ignore the ones who take it too far. And make it known.
@@wawis231 It definitely does! Relationships (especially marriages) feel like significantly less major commitments when the non-romantic aspects of your life will be perfectly unchanged without them because you can buy a new house or pay for a divorce or easily send your kids back and forth because the time and cost aren't a problem, etc. Plus the fact that celebrities are generally much more attractive than the average person and their famous name makes up for it even if they aren't, finding new partners is never ever going to be a problem the way it is for ugly (or even average) people. I don't think it's necessarily about celebrities seeking new relationships more often, but rather about them feeling less and less willing to stay in one that makes them even the slightest bit unhappy or inconvenienced, because they don't have to.
What i find weird is when people say celebrity relationships dont last and then quote relationships that lasted a decade and more. Thats quite a long time and not that different from the normal population
That's true! They are observed, as if under a microscope when they are celebrities, but they are just people. They have certain privileges that affect their choices. Still, there are non-famous people who have the same pattern in their relationships. No one really teaches us how to date and maintain a healthy relationship, it's different with every couple on what makes it work out. Breaking up could just be a natural conclusion to most relationships as people learn and grow.
It might also come from people whose immediate social context has much longer lived relationships. For example, I don't feel like I've been married that long, but I've learned from people's reactions over the years when I tell them I've been married for 8, 11, now 14 years, that everyone has a different idea of what a "long" relationship is. But my parents will be married 50 years this year, my husband's parents will celebrate 44 years, our best friend's parents have been together about that long, etc. Even in our generation, our friends who aren't married have been in long-term relationships that are well into their second decade. So I could see someone coming from that context and being a bit more naive and feeling like dating, marrying, divorcing, and moving on all within a decade is going pretty quickly.
I love it when i’m thinking of a topic for weeks and a youtuber is on the same wavelength as me and decides to post a 30 minute long video about that topic
Being with someone famous instead of being the one who is famous sounds way better because you can just sit back and be proud of them and everyone else is like yeah this person is great and you’re like yeah that’s why I married them
But then they would be super busy, if neither of you are protected in terms of privacy then you'd be in gossip news, also power dynamics wise they'd have more money and have plenty of options for a partner. It's possible though, just have a strong trust with each other, communicate clearly and compromise on how to be a part of each other's lives in a way that benefits you both. It's just cyberbullying and other people that is the uncontrolled variable.
As long as their ego doesn't grow enough to treat you like less than. I think there were such cases and in case of women being the successful partner many men feel insecure.
@@cookiesyruplover and non-celebrities are not busy? I'd even argue the average person is busier then the average celebrity, becase celebrities usually don't have a full time schedule. Their work hours depend on what offer they have. Meanwhile, a 9-5 job is something you do continiously. For example, I just did an internship in a law firm and I'm 100% sure that those lawyers are busier then the vast majority of celebrities
@@cobrakaier238 why would one feel insecure? I literally don't see any reason to feel inferior to a celebrity, especially when you have your own career. Being well known is not the only factor of success. Take George and Amal Clooney as an example. Amal Clooney is not a celebrity, but a human rights lawyer and she has rightfully no reason to feel inferior to her husband, even though he is one of the most well known and highest paid actors.
About Keanu Reeves, I don't know what kind of comments did you see, bit there was a lot of "you can do better" and dumping on his partner all of awful stuff. After that there was a wave of "let them be, they're good together so you should not care".
Re: why Matt Damon and Guy From Wedding Crashers might say "civilian" to describe their partners. The only reason I can think of is that legally, there is a difference between civilians and public figures when it comes to defamation lawsuits. Public figures suing someone for defamation have different criteria for winning their case than civilians who are suing someone for defamation. At least in the United States. In the U.S., in order to win a defamation case, public figures have to prove that 1) the statement made about them is not true, and 2) that the person who made the statement did so with malicious intent. Civilians don't have to prove either of those things in order to win a defamation case (though it certainly helps). This has been a fun fact from a longtime viewer who paid attention in their Media Law class. Lol. Much love from the states!! (Fundie Fridays shouted you out in their newest video btw, we need another collab)
Ty for explaining this! Cuz I def took it the wrong way lol (I thought they felt the need to distinguish between famous + non-famous people colloquially, which felt gross)
@@fadedandfrustrated "Civilians" has been used in that way for a very long time, it's not like Damon or Vaughn just came up with it, and i think it can be a bit disparaging, like "muggles". I imagine that those 2 using it are sort of reclaiming it - they're glad that their private lives don't revolve around publicity & conflicting work commitments, and that Damon is just a middle aged dad. The point above about malice defamation is just one example of how big celeb lives differ from the norm, more commonly its that non-celebs can't (or won't) keep up with the pressures of the industry.
I think 3 things are mainly the cause 1) celebrity egos 2) the time they spend apart 3) the choice of possible partners that they have. It is much higher cause of the fact they are famous and usually good looking.
I like what you said regarding het appearing couples using "partner" more recently. I remember a coworker of my mother's (when I was a teen) was surprised that she knew he was gay and asked how she figured out - my mom replied, "A few months back I asked what you were doing for the holidays and you mentioned spending time with your *partner."* He was *mortified* for the 'slip.'
Ive Had people trying to clock me because i use the Word "Partner". Now im bi but Dating a straight man. However, "Boyfriend" sounds juvenile, husband isnt true, and as far as im concerned, gender doesnt matter and it's noones business If im straight or Not. And it is funny when people think youre lesbian and then realize they they Made a snap judgement based on one word
@annabeinglazy5580 Absolutely same. I'm also a bi girl engaged to a cis guy and we'd been together for seven years before we got engaged. I didn't mind calling him my boyfriend, but as the years went by, I started using partner more and more for all the reasons you mentioned. Funnily enough, after we got engaged, we filed for a domestic partnership in our jurisdiction so we could share some employment benefits while we work out getting married lol. So I guess we are actually legally partners now lol.
I think whether the “being in the same field as your partner” thing is a negative for the relationship, really depends on the kind of field. My partner and I both are hydraulic engineers, and we spend so much of our time talking about neat hydraulics problems… and we’ve never had any competition issues of the sort. We are always just super supportive of each other and happy to learn from one another. Even when applying for jobs out of grad school, we both happened to apply for the same one. When only one of us was called back for interviews, we just celebrated the fact. So it can work, but it definitely requires the right dynamic.
Engineers are generally in high demand, while entertainment is super oversaturated. You/your partner were fine with not getting the job because there will be another one, but if you fall out of the circle of A-listers you're pretty fucked, because all the good job opportunities go to that small circle.
I totally agree -my partner of 9 years and I are both musicians, I think in our experience it has less to do with work and more with personalities -both of us also only exclusively dated musicians before one another and those didn't work out long term 🤷 Sure there can be competition (lol the classical music circle is tiny) but I think relationships are about people as a whole -how they can emotionally deal with stressors together or alone
@@icedcat4021That’s exactly why I said it really depends on the job situation. For the record, wasn’t trying to make it seem like my partner and I are better people or whatever. We are just lucky that our situation works out well for us.
Really curious about this. You don't have to answer if you want to keep your privacy but I've watched a lot of videos lately about female/male dynamics so I'm interested. In that scenario you shared where the other person got the job (or just callback?) was it the male? I can't tell your genders from what you posted. Also, with both of you in high paying demanding jobs do you split housework evenly? and have you talked about kids? A lot of times it's assumed the mother will slow track her career to be primary caregiver. Even in couples where both are feminists there is a lot of societal programming that leads to internalized patriarchal hierarchies and expectations.@@8114梦见
I remember letting bad relationships I was in go on for far too long because you always hear “relationships/marriages are work” “anything worth having doesn’t come easy” “relationships are about not giving up and continuing to try” etc. so I would deal with so Much stuff thinking “I gotta keep trying, it’s supposed to be hard work”
I try genuinely to counter this whenever I see this because I am married and just have never felt like it was work. Like have we had conflict? Sure, because we're two creatures that live together and deal with each other, I also have conflict friends, my cats, roommates, my family, etc. The conflict we have isn't any different. Outside life factors might be stressful, but I feel like we help each other through them. And I feel like it's a huge disservice to the idea of being married. I respect all relationship types, I just find it weird that people that want to push marriage so hard as the only option seem to think marriage means misery. I guess it's just what they've been told and misery loves company, but ugh I hate it so much. Also, I feel like I have nice relationship because of the past breakups. I learned what I liked, what I disliked, what I wanted. I met a person who has a personality that meshes with mine. I learned how to communicate with a person, how not to act or be. Like the past relationships were great for exploring a lot of these things and growing up honestly. Relationships should very much be about finding a person (or people) that make you happy and support you. And that feeling doesn't have to fade. If it does, then maybe, people have grown in different directions.
I think the saying is also bad because work has very negative associations to some. Marriges aren't supposed to be negative. They're supposed to be good. A sort of better than the sum of its parts type deal.
Dolly Parton is a VERY famous example of a huge celebrity being successfully married to a “normie”/civilian. It could be bc they had been together from before her fame (I think). I’m not sure many gave her grief… as far as I know a lot of the public admired her private lowkey marriage situation. I always thought it was kinda unique and cool but I learned there’s even more actors out their with their civilian wives 😋 love your channel Tara!!
I believe they married after she had already been established as a singer/songwriter, because "I Will Always Love You" was written for an ex who was moving on, and I think she'd already put out a few albums before then
I think she wrote I will always love you for her co Host on a country music show on TV which made her famous when she was leaving that show. And I believe she married her husband when she was a local country star at best
I believe a lot of celebrity relationships/marriages don’t last is just because simply how busy these jobs are, often they are away from each other. Also often celebrity life moves quick, so people rush into relationships and don’t take time. Also especially with social media now, makes relationships for celebrities even harder.
I mean their jobs probably make things harder, but things like infidelity and abuse which are sadly common in a lot of these celebrity relationships are usually the case. I’m sure the environment they grew up and surround themselves in contributes to their characters, but a lot of them are just messed up people that need to seek help and/or to stay away from relationships
If these people weren't put on such high pedestals by society half the problems that people complain about would be solved. These "celebrities" are humans, they're not any worse or any better than anyone else, they just perform at a higher level when it comes to specific things, whether that be singing, acting, wrestling...whatever. If Societal norms changed, we could just give them their accolades, (when it comes to their work) and not worry about everything else that is no one else's business. If you're a "celebrity" and you want to volunteer information... by all means, but I don't think society is entitled to anything just because somebody acted in a movie you liked, or was in a band that you listened to everyday, they still deserve privacy. They don't deserve being chased down the street by mobs of people wanting an autograph... it's literally not that serious. There have been artists, performers, and actors in my life that I absolutely love the work they've done, they've done things that I thought at the time changed my life.... but I swear to God, if I saw them on the street I would not run up to them like a lunatic and lose my mind, because ultimately this person is not changing my life. I'm the one in charge of that. Also, I feel like giving someone so much power is ridiculous and it's dangerous🤷♀️😅
@simplyspice7916 Celebrities have been around for a very very long time. I don't think they are going anywhere soon. Considering people give their lives and freedom over to an invisible man in the sky, I don't think getting super involved in Celebrity lives is that far fetched tbh. They do however deserve privacy and human decency just like anyone else and not treated like a zoo attraction just out getting coffee or something lol.
I am honestly surprised to see how many people say that the life of a celebrity is busy. No, it's not. Actors spend most of their times waiting for offers, they aren't out in the world filming 365 days of a year. MUsicians spend most of their life in the studio writing music, touring is only a very small part of it. Teachers, lawyers, buiseness people for example are all busier then the average celebrity. Even lawyers from big law firms where they work 80-100 hours a week are often married or in a relationship
@@liste302 As someone who has experience around celebrities (I have friends who are celebrity assistants) and who works in the entertainment field you couldn't be further from the truth. The average celebrity my no means spends "most of their time waiting for roles" but that is certainly not the case for celebrity actors. Most actors are not actually famous, however, the ones that are famous have a lot more to do in the realm of responsibility than most expect. Offers aren't something an accomplished celebrity would need to wait for they are of course, "offers," so most of the time celebrities don't need to wait to hear if they have a role, it is already offered-its in the name. That being said, you are right that most celebrities don't spend 365 days filming projects, however most of their time is filming and outside of that they have to do: promo shoots, photograph shoots, editorial shoots, press tours, red carpet appearances that all end up adding up to their time. Furthermore, even aside from the actual "shooting" of a movie a celebrity typically has to dedicate time pre-production to various things related to their project. These things can be diet and exercise changes/regimens, skill development (to film I Tonya Margot Robbie spent 10 months learning to ice skate with moderate proficiency) and often they have to work with dialect and acting coach if the project requires a specific skill set (like a different accent). That's not even mentioning the factors that often actors will go "undercover" to various places in order to understand and portray the circumstances of their various characters ( Jeremy allen white went to a gourmet kitchen for the bear, leonardo dicaprio went undercover to facilities with people dealing with mental disorders for whats eating girlbert grape). For musicians they often have to to much the same things actors due, photograph shoots, filming (music videos), promo shoots, sometimes they even do promotion. And more than that they spend a lot of their time in rehearsals for music videos, concerts, tours etc. I dont mean to come off as too pretentious and I also don't mean to make it seem as though celebrities have the hardest job in the world, but while all the other jobs mentioned (doctors, lawyers, teachers) certainly have busy schedules, acting as though celebrities have laid back schedules and aren't busy in their own right is just blatantly untrue.
I think there's something to be said about being rich and not having to conform to certain expectations. I know quite a few people who have stayed in relationships because leaving would make their lives harder financially, because of judgement from family members, or because divorce is just expensive. Having money and a successful career sometimes just means freedom. You don't have those constraints anymore and you can make that decision without having to consider being able to afford living in separate houses or if your Aunt Janet is gonna think you're ruining your kids' lives.
It might be interesting to compare celebrity marriages to marriages of other people who travel a lot for work with weird schedules. Even without the other pressures of being a public figure it’s really hard to be in a relationship with people who can’t be around, especially if you have shared responsibilities for example kids.
Great point. I am thinking of pilots. military folks, firefighters for example. I have heard that they are more prone to cheat and have a divorce according to divorce lawyers from the USA.
@@justinenglish_5750Firefighters and paramedics I worked with there was a running theme of divorce on how stressful emergency services was, especially if both were working in the field
When you said Britney Spears and Jason Alexander, for a moment I was like "How did I not know that George Costanza dated Britney Spears??" But then I looked at the picture and realized it's a different guy 😂
I was looking for someone else to say this exact same thing! Hahah I was so confused for a couple of minutes and had to play it back and look at the picture.
I think what you meant to say is Freddie Prince Jr. married Buffy the Vampire Slayer... who also happened to inspire some bad ass Daphne moments... SMG did not star in her own show for 8+ years to be remembered only as Daphne to Fred. (❤ Daphne, but a true footnote in her career)
My favorite actor Peter Capaldi has been happily married to his wife since about 1991. He is such a wife guy he refuses to take his wedding ring off for any role he plays.They stared in a rom com Soft Top Hard Shoulder shortly after they got married and she produces his new show Criminal Record.
Your cats have a similar sibling energy to my cats. Reggie is always instigating play/fighting, and Veeta thinks he's a smelly boy. Veeta is also chatty and likes to burrow under blankets.
there is absolutely no WAY that the “‘well you can’t grow concrete.’ ‘yea you can’ *prolonged silence* ‘well thank you cameron. cheerio!’” clip happened organically. that’s like. an eric andre joke. i’m losing my mind rn
I've been using the term partner for quite a while. My significant other and I have been together for 5 years, both of us are in our mid-30s and his a wonderful co-parent to my 8-year-old son. In no way does all the things he does for me and my family warrant the term "boyfriend". He's more than that He lives with me He pays half the bills, He's more than that and split parenting duties. I have an antique business so I deal with a lot of boomers and the other day I mentioned that my partner and I where looking forward to the weekend, well the Boomer customer I was dealing with had a meltdown 😂! they said don't tell me you're one of those straight couples that use the term partner or do you really mean girlfriend..... It was the funniest thing ever you best believe when he asked for a discount on something I said no 😂
If you're the same age as the item, it stays the same price. However we do have a special for insulting the owner of the store; 15% UP! Double for offensive phrasing and/or invasive questions! We appreciate your patronage. 🙂
I’m bi and genderfluid and I use partner for 1. The exact reason (minus children being involved) that you stated. And 2. Partner just feels more respectful for us in the relationship of my identity and my sexuality. :)
To be fair, I have dated people for a month of two and wouldn't count it them as my exes, but if you are Taylor, you are spotted in public with a guy and people are printing shirts with the name list. It's complicated to judge celebrities relationships when their experience dating is completely different to ours.
I don't think it's necessarily about celebrities seeking new relationships more often, but rather about them feeling less and less willing to stay in one that makes them even the slightest bit unhappy or inconvenienced, because they don't have to.
In case anyone is unfamiliar with the 'growing concrete' clip, that's a right-wing media presenter Mike Graham who is so used to contradicting his guests he claimed you can 'grow concrete' and then doubled down on it when called out. For some reason, he's still considered a credible journalist, because right-wingers now absolutely love someone who just outright denies reality.
I'd say the stats are true but not causational. It would be interesting to compare them to other groups with similar disposable income levels or the same ability to profit from a marriage (after all, the sample from the first study was those celebs whose wedding photos were likely sold to the 'glossy mags').
I got divorced in Illinois a few years ago, and even though they have no fault divorce there, my ex and I had to stand in front of a judge and say that our marriage was “completely and irreparably broken”. It felt so humiliating and cruel.
I'm glad you touched on the broader questions about celebrity culture at the end. Quite honestly, I'm still working to decouple "thing I like" from "person who made thing"
My parents absolutely wouldve gotten divorced if they could've afforded two separate households, but that was an impossibility. So I always think about that when it comes to people with kids getting divorced. Its so much harder to maintain two homes with space for the kids when you're not well off.
I think another thing is they can afford to get married much more quickly in the relationship than the average person. So they might find out they aren't really compatible enough for marriage sooner than ordinary couple who have to wait so many years before they can even afford a wedding.
It goes to show that being rich means that you don’t have to conform to societal norms or expectations. Celebrities don’t have to deal with BS in relationships. They can afford to hop around because they’re high status and there isn’t a shortage of eligible matches. Money gives them a certain level of access that average people don’t have 😮
The part about female celebrities being with non-famous people reminded me a bit about queens (like literal queens, not the figurative kind). Prince-consorts often struggle with the fact that their wife has a higher position than them. After all, the wife of a king is a queen, but the husband of a queen-regnant is not a king. Both Prince Albert and Prince Philip struggled with this. That being said, spouses of monarchs often struggle as they have to live for the country. Historically, Prince-consorts have struggled more than Princess-consorts due to the masculine and conservative nature of aristocrats (a man being subservient to a woman was looked down upon). Tabloids (and the application of celebrity culture on royal families) have made the lives of queen-consorts harder.
I think it also has to do with celebrities often growing up in environments where people aren't really friends with them or actually like them but just stay with them for clout or other needs like money. This then in turn makes them less able to form propper relationships with people because they always have that doubt that the relationship isn't based on love but on other factors. If you then marry or date another celebrity, more than often they also struggle with the lack of knowledge on propper relationships (friendly or love wise). This can lead to a lack of understanding on how to manage their relationship and doing hasty decisions. I mean, celebrities also get into marriages a lot sooner than most people do (even just months after starting to date). Or make bad decisions or just not knowing how to maintain a relationship.
There is a fun little documentary about "civilians" ( I hate this term. I get Hollywood is a nightmare but it just feels like treating celebs like they saw action in 'Nam) dating celebrities. Its called "Guest of Cindy Sherman" and its directed by a guy who dated the iconic art photographer Cindy Sherman, and he not only shares his experience with dating a famous person but it also collects the stories of other notable "plus ones" of celebs, like Elton John's husband David Furnish. Some of the stories are kind of humiliating.I mean if two celebrities can't persevere the pitfalls of Hollywood AND a relationship, why should a normie be any better ? Some of the stories shared in the doc are squirm-inducing. There's a part where the director talks about trying to save their 5yr relationship by asking Sherman to see his therapist for couples counseling and afterward his therapist chooses Sherman as a client and jettisons him! So yeah, I don't totally buy Damon's rationale, but good on him and his solid marriage.
Normie is more cringe lol people use "civilians" to refer to people "outside of X group" and have been doing it for a while, it's not exclusive to celebrities or the military.
Their definition of "celebrity" is super problematic and can skew the data. If you're looking for people who have been in "glossy magazines" you forget that one of the biggest topics covered in those "glossy magazines" is celeb divorce. So basically you're pulling from a pool that covers divorce in a WAY over-represented way. Now if they pulled from people who've been in the top 10 cast for the last 10 years of blockbuster movies, you may get a more accurate number. Not saying divorce isn't higher, they just may be choosing from a data pool that skews their results.
I know it's outside the scope of the video, but the reason Marlon Brando refused his Oscar was metal as hell. He was protesting the treatment of First Nations people in the US, especially in the film industry. Actor and activist Sacheen Littlefeather rejected it on his behalf.
@@averysspookshowspectacular6205 yeah, and the SA he committed on Maria Schneider with the direction of Roman Polanski. And generally his method acting causing a ton of problems for people because he'd act like an AH. It's cool what he wanted to do at the Oscars, but I have never been able to respect anything about him with the other things.
22:10 I am an artist and have never dated another artist basically for this reason. I've tried a few times and we clash because we both end up being stubborn, overthinking, wishy washy and over-individualistic. My most balanced relationships have actually been with techies, people in the computer field. My current partner of 3 years has a bachelor's in computer science
This comment stood out to me because I'm also an artist and ngl, I get mood swings a lot and am very individualistic. My partner is super patient and is also in the computer field. Some traits just make it easier to get along, I guess?
I had a black cat that was that size. I had to buy dog beds because no style of cat bed was big enough. (FYI totally healthy it was genetics and also the result of being a tomcat that went through not only puberty but full adolescence before being fixed.) He lived over 17 years.
Some black cats are just large. Our spooky boy is 17lb and not even a little over weight. He's just massive. He's almost as big as our medium sized dog.
@@RachaelTheRed Yeah, that's about the size Ani (Anubis) was he did tip at the 20lb marker at his absolute largest point. Once again, he was healthy - just HUGE. (I'd never heard anyone mention a correlation to black cats before. I always assumed I noticed ones of similar size because of the resemblance, not that there was a legitimate pattern. That's interesting.)
My partner and I are both bi, both identify mostly with the term queer (genders hard) and we have exclusively used partner! Even early days, my straight brother percieved it as us being too serious too fast but for us it was just the best term to use while still validating each other queerness! 7years later and we're now engaged 😊 we made that decision as two marriage skeptical people. We made the decision sooo carefully. Our love was set, marriage doesn't change that. Marriage only brings legal rights and protections for us in our future plans! You don't need marriage to commit to someone ❤
I think it also comes down to lack of loyalty overall. Lets be real, when you are on the poorer end, do you throw out something when it has a defect, but still works? Same with relationships. When you have so many options thrown at you 24/7, you don't hold onto things. So the second fun ends, you're on to the next, because you can. And long term relationships can't be fun all the time, you do struggle. And it's not even that they are toxic, it's life. But celebs can afford to lead it differently.
new late-night conversation topic unlocked: is it worth having a successful marriage to your celebrity crush if they publicly refer to you as a "civilian"
I think the speed with which celebs get married is an issue. They don't have to wait to save up for the big day. There is constant questioning about when/if they are going to get married, pushing for a speedy resolution. And also just a Hollywood culture of fast marriages. Of course there are exceptions but generally speaking, the faster people get married, the more likely a divorce.
I just found out yesterday that my cousin and her partner have been married to other people for 10 YEARS! None of them could afford the divorce, so they have just been legally married to people they don't even talk to anymore. My Mom was able to afford to get them the divorces everyone wanted. Crazy
Fun fact, no fault marriage was only legalised in 2022 in the UK 😅. And thanks for bringing awareness to ‘partner’ and civil partnership being gender neutral. Marriage and wedding ceremonies are extremely gendered and religious in Britain; so if you decide to go for it, enjoy feeling misgendered for 30-60 minutes straight on one of the most significant days of your lives. The term partner is pretty inclusive of all folks but also can be quite validating of non het individuals in a straight passing relationship.
@@cattideltarune Apologies, amended as recommended. My partner and I have been using it as an abbreviation as it’s more convenient and wasn’t aware of any shocking acronym related to it 😅
Easy. It's like clickbait. Just mention the name of the celebrity, and their fame does all the work. Doesn't matter if the gossip is trashy, boring or true. Since there are so many celebrities, they'll never run out of material.
I love that a video about celebrity breakups has a lovely spotty kitty with a broken heart on their side in the background. Or at least it looks like a broken heart from this angle.
Hubby left me and our 5 young children. Ugh.. he left us for a cult.. I was a stay at home mother without a job for the last year, and he had control over all of the money he made a good amount as an engineer. Now I am in a pretty precarious situation. 😢 I can say that he left twice and I allowed him to come back twice. New fear of being a single parent unlocked. I do believe that social media is a big reason why people are leaving their spouses, access to a lot of people around the world.
@@someusername4129 I am not saying that social media is the main cause but a root of the problem. Divorce rates have skyrocketed after the introduction of social apps statistics don’t lie. Easy access to people creates a supply and demand. Simply put it affects relationships more than is said.
Girl he owes you alimony and child support. Do not allow him to get away scot free. You gave him children with the understanding that you would do half the work (prob more) and he would do the rest. He broke that promise.
@@someusername4129people with narcissistic tendencies use social media as an outlet to supply the black hole of their ego, and the cycle is lovebomb, devalue, discard. Repeat over and over regardless of who it is.
Just my two cents but a lot of celebrity engagements seem rushed and I think it has to do with money. For the rich, a wedding is just a huge party. I would never pay (let alone plan) for a wedding (and/or would get a mortgage) with someone who I do not know REALLY well. It could be exciting to plan a wedding when you have money, or if you don’t enjoy the process, you get a wedding planner and get to experience the fun parts only. However, planning for a wedding that eats up all your savings, visit venues in the weekends tired as hell after a long week of working, deciding if your dream dress worth giving up the vacation you planned for that year - I can only feel safe making these decisions with a person I truly know and love. And for that you have to spend a lot of time together - get bored, travel when you are both tired, visit family and get frustrated, get sick, move between places, get to know all the seasons together, etc. These people it seems got married as soon as they got a bit bored and didn’t really know each other, but a wedding might have seemed to be the next fun thing to look for.
As someone who regularly falls into Wikipedia holes and has had to look up am I watching Isla or Lois Lane? Borat and Australian Amy Adams are surprisingly well matched in their interests. Like they both studied the art of French Clowning. Not together, independently. I don't know who they would have married if not each other.
Pearce Brosnan and his wife are long term ❤ and oddly, Bruce Willis and Demi Moore, even though divorced, are still very family together which is so sweet. Cate Blanchette and her hubby, gosh how many decades is that?
I never feel too bad for rich people BUT i will say, props to celebs in relationships with people who get romantic roles in movies/tv, I am not strong enough for that. But no shade because if i was an actor i would probably end up falling for a co star
Because actually staying in marriage with one person your entire life is for poor people. Rich people have enough financial and cultural and social freedom to divorce and easily remarry. Poor and middle class people are burdened by moralism and religious dogma which is there to regulate the behavior of the masses, it’s a social freedom if the rich to actually enjoy life
Yep, every developing country sees rising divorce rates, and it always gets blamed on 'western influences' rather than the fact that more women are independently wealthy enough to not have to put up with your BS any more. If you've got a shared mortgage, and splitting up means you're going to have to make difficult decisions about children (rather than being able to solve all of the practical problems with an expensive nanny), and the expensive lawyers could literally bankrupt you. then there's far more incentive to try and work through problems. And that's not a criticism. It should be fine to base your decision entirely on the emotions you feel for the other person, but the reality is that for a lot of people, there are more factors involved and even an imperfect marriage may be preferable to being alone.
Well, IS that life truly enjoyable? Actually reaching that point where your relationship is a safe haven and not just a rollercoaster of emotions is so beautiful, an irreplacable feeling. Just because a lot of heteronormative culture and ideas of romance are harmful, doesn't mean we are meant to have shallow, short term relationships to achieve happiness.
Having your relationship constantly being in the spotlight almost always guarantees failure. It would be nearly impossible to deal with the speculation, criticism, etc. Even if you're just a normal person posting about your relationship. People are going to have opinions and it's going to cause conflict.
That makes me think of that scene from "The Other Two" where they have to send his ex girlfriend to live in the woods because fans already set her house on fire.
Celebrities used to get married and divorced all the time because of morality clauses! They couldn't be caught doing anything "indecent" so they became serial monogamists lol
Thanks for this video. You seemed to really enjoy yourself and your humor really hit for me on this one. What is that furby monstrosity?!? It's amazing
The hot goss and tea I get about your pets getting along is all I need honestly. If tabloids wrote about celebrity pets instead of the people there would be a chance I'd open one of those sites
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I feel like this is the perfect place to remind people of Dolly Parton and her husband. There's maybe four public photos of them together?? None are within the last 20 years. From what we (as the public) do know about him, he's always been so supportive of her music career and has had no desire to share any of her spotlight. I do support the idea that famous-"civilian" relationships work best in the long run.
Dolly and her husband are rumored to be in a lavender marriage based on safety from homophobia... so I wouldn't tout it as the example of Celebrity Love That Lasts
@@veronicawilson7594Wow rumours, known to be super correct and not at all based on salacious, dramatized, incomplete lies.
@@veronicawilson7594rumored or did they say that themselves? 😅 Blindly trusting rumors about a strangers life is a stupid thing to do.
@@veronicawilson7594they would be long divorced then. Homosexuality has been legal in US for a good 40 years at the very least
@veronicawilson7594 they wouldn't be in that marriage post 2000s, that's just ridiculous, in america people are accepting enough to be gay atp.
When you're poor, it can feel like the two of you against the world. When you're rich, you can just be rich by yourself somewhere else.
I've heard so many couples say they stayed for so much longer bc they literally couldn't afford to move out. 😭
@@uschilouin regular life relationships partners fulfil many roles - emotional, sexual, financial, social, spliting chores, raising children etc. Celebs have got everything covered, so they only need the entertainment side of a relationship. It can get old pretty quick, so they switch partners
Or you could just find the right person
@PettyBlue1 Very true. It's a blessing, really but idk why they have to enter a legally binding contract. That's the only part I don't understand. Just date.
@@uschilou My bet it it's a mix of never getting to date normally + being able to afford marriage/divorce like it was nothing.
i love when i forget that celebrities are married, like i learned one day that ryan gosling and eva mendes were married with children and i forget that fact constantly. same for kristen dunst and jesse plemons, I'm like a child with no object permanence, if it's not in front of me, I'll totally forget
Yeah, me too😂.
Honestly, I think that those celebrity couples that exist under the radar are the one's with the best track record. It's the relationships that burn hot and bright in the intense glare of media scrutiny, the Bennifer's of the world, that are the ones that implode the fastest. On the other side of the celebrity couple coin, I remember that I was absolutely shocked when I learned that Jamie Lee Curtis and Christopher Guest have been together since before I was born. They seem like such cool people and I'm fascinated at the idea of what their life together is like.
Ashlee Simpson and Pete Wentz were married lmao
you know exactly the same, forget my own family's exact birth dates
Don't even know who Jesse Plemons is 😅
Am… Am I a celebrity?
Probably not
😂 I wish that was the reason for my crappy relationships
Now you are
51 likes, that's more than i've gotten in my entire life
Makes me want a divorce real bad
Almost as if divorce wasn’t more common “back then” not because marriage was “better” but because the average person didn’t have access to it
A friend dated a very famous, very famously hot, hockey player for a few months, and she got annoyed by how many women would proposition him right in front of her while they were out trying to enjoy a date.
Any famous person can get any person they want. And they know it. Not to mention busy and conflicting schedules. I'm sure its rare for a celebrity to be down to earth and not full of themselves as well. Not to mention the bad drug problem in the Hollywood world. So its really not a shock that any couple breaks up.
I know some women who didn't want to date jocks in high school for that reason. LOL.
the marriage foundation saying people who say they're unhappy in they're marriage say they're happier ten years after their first child. as if i want to have a kid with someone i dont like and hope i might be happier in a decade instead of just getting a divorce lmao
I really hope that it was people being unhappy after the birth of the kid, because having to deal with a newborn is enough to make anyone unhappy even in an otherwise good situation.
I think it’s that idea that society didn’t allow us to openly complain about marriage and family that could get us in trouble and lose resources if u depend on either. So they say this bc having children gives purpose and people tend to sympathize with u if u do and it’s easier to give purpose-it’s not about happiness bc in the end many people believe it’s part of their destiny or purpose bc it’s been super ingrained in our culture for centuries. Now we are now seeing its pitfalls more openly thus this saying no longer holds
Understandable. I am already happier in my marriage after 4 years. It get's easier. You don't have to compete for time to sleep anymore, that does a lot for marriage satisfaction.
Yeah, make a whole ass human for whom you are responsible and whose life you could utterly wreck if you're not careful. That will make things MUCH easier on your strained relationship!
Good lord.
Please learn, when to use "they're" and when to use "their".
I think some of it is the less talked about toxic side of theater kids too. A lot of a celebs were theater kids too and just genuinely never grow up.
I'm catching strays here but also: true 💀
@@TaraMooknee there's a Disney Channel show dad that one of my friends went to school with and she said he's always been a toxic diva, but got worse after getting on Disney. I always wonder if the celebs who are constantly getting divorced are the fully realized potential of actors like him.
What??
@andieallison6792 as an ex theater kid, some theater kids are the most cliques toxic assholes who just make drama because they can't stand stability
ariana and spongebob 😂
I'm not entirely surprised by the glut of divorces in the 30s and 40s tbh. Men were pretty misogynistic back then and I'm sure being famous actresses probably gave them a lot more freedom then the average women would have had. So the average woman would have no choice but to stay in a shitty relationship, but a woman with money and _some_ degree of independent social power? It was probably easier for her to just drop the hot sack of crap...while at the same time being pressured by societal norms _to be married_ meaning instead of just staying single, a quick remarriage followed by another divorce.
idk, interesting.
my thoughts as well
Also there was no hormonal birth control yet, and it was a huge scandal to have a child out of wedlock (see, for instance, Loretta Young contriving to “adopt” her own child fathered by Clark Gable). If a famous actress wanted to go to bed with a man, it was the safer route to marry him first (setting aside that people were generally more conservative and religious and may have just felt guilty for sleeping together whilst unmarried). But sexual attraction alone is of course not a recipe for a lasting relationship, hence why so many Golden Age Hollywood stars have 3-5 marriages under their belt. Nowadays people will just date instead of serially marrying.
Thats a very good point, im not really a connect the dots kind of person so it's helpful when other people do it or me lol
Men were really misogynistic back then? They've evolved and I missed it. Dang.
Comments such as this, that are pure speculation and without any supporting evidence have become the norm. Idiots like Jordan Peterson, Konstantin, and Douglas Murray spread misinformation and deliberate lies,without ant supporting evidence, that are accepted at face value because no one bothers to fact check. We now have populations of misinformed idiots in the west that follow suit. You have 281 upvotes from idiots who have done no research and haven't got a clue as to the cause.
As I do research before I open my big mouth and have studied psychology, including this topic, the cause is a histrionic personality disorder, and 70% of those with it are women and incapable of being faithful. It has nothing to do with misogyny, it is personality disorder that is prominent amongst females, that is due to the nature of the disorder itself.
Histrionic personality disorder is a Cluster B personality disorder characterized by excessive attention-seeking, emotionality, inappropriate seductiveness and an obsession with one’s appearance.
Have you ever met someone who seemed to be highly emotional, theatrical, dramatic, obsessed with their appearance and overly seductive in their interactions with others? Someone who couldn’t stand not being the center of attention? Someone who would consistently go to extreme lengths just to draw attention back to themselves whenever anyone threatened to take the spotlight from them? You may have come across someone with the traits of Histrionic Personality Disorder.
The Traits of Histrionic Personality Disorder
According to the DSM, people with Histrionic Personality Disorder are incredibly self-centered, are constantly seeking reassurance and approval and engage in inappropriate seductive behavior across a wide variety of contexts (including social, academic, occupational and professional). More women than men are usually diagnosed with this disorder. Whether this is because more women than men actually do meet the criteria for the disorder or because female sexual displays tend to be more stigmatized remains up for debate.
Histrionic individuals engage in very dramatic behavior with exaggerated displays of emotion and an impressionistic style of speaking that come off as disingenuous to discerning onlookers. Their emotions are so rapidly shifting and shallow that it can be difficult to determine exactly how authentic their emotions are or to what extent they are using their emotions to manipulate others. Interpersonally, they tend to be highly suggestible people whose opinions can change on a whim. They tend to perceive relationships to be more intimate than they actually are.
Histrionic Personality Disorder is also one of the few disorders which is directly tied to a person’s appearance. A person with histrionic traits will dress provocatively and demonstrate a hyperfocus on how they look. This can range from spending hours on their makeup to spending excessive amounts of time on sculpting the “perfect” body.
The Histrionic Personality in Relationships: Seduction, Drama and Provocation
The histrionic female’s insatiable need for attention, combined with their tendency to overstep the boundaries of others and flirt with anyone and everyone in the near vicinity, can cause issues in their relationships and friendships. These individuals are likely to emotionally and physically cheat on their partners and also seduce those who are already in committed relationships. They are also likely to use their sexuality inappropriately to get ahead at school or at work.
According to Christine Hammond, LMHC (2015), while female narcissists dress seductively to achieve a certain agenda or goal (such as impressing someone), a histrionic female will don revealing clothing across any and all situations. Her provocative clothing, combined with overly seductive behavior, manufactures scenarios where she is indeed put into the spotlight - often to the detriment of her loved ones.
For histrionic females, this can cause issues specifically in her friendships with other women, because many histrionic females tend to flirt with and attempt to seduce the significant others of their friends. As Dr. Bressert (2017) writes:
“Individuals with this disorder often have impaired relationships with same-sex friends because their sexually provocative interpersonal style may seem a threat to their friends’ relationships. These individuals may also alienate friends with demands for constant attention. They often become depressed and upset when they are not the center of attention.”
The traits of Histrionic Personality Disorder can overlap with traits of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Borderline Personality Disorder, Antisocial Personality Disorder as well as Bipolar Disorder (Burgess, 1992; Hamburger et. al, 1996; Ghouse et. al, 2013).
The overlap with these disorders is not surprising. A histrionic personality’s insatiable attention-seeking can mirror the entitlement of the narcissist to be at front and center. Their bubbly, vivacious and energetic theatricality can easily be mistaken for mania. Their blatant self-absorption and need for constant stimulation can be similar to the lack of empathy and need for novelty present in an antisocial personality, while their high degree of emotionality can also resemble borderline traits.
I was just thinking the other day how weird it was how fast celebrities get in to and then out of relationships/marriages.
@@wawis231 I always figured that some celebs PR teams control what they do in public, so you have a group of people instruct how you have your relationships in public,paired with them essentially trying to be together while countless people have parasocial relationships with them. And in the age of the internet, it’s hard to ignore the ones who take it too far. And make it known.
Legit same
@@wawis231 It definitely does! Relationships (especially marriages) feel like significantly less major commitments when the non-romantic aspects of your life will be perfectly unchanged without them because you can buy a new house or pay for a divorce or easily send your kids back and forth because the time and cost aren't a problem, etc. Plus the fact that celebrities are generally much more attractive than the average person and their famous name makes up for it even if they aren't, finding new partners is never ever going to be a problem the way it is for ugly (or even average) people. I don't think it's necessarily about celebrities seeking new relationships more often, but rather about them feeling less and less willing to stay in one that makes them even the slightest bit unhappy or inconvenienced, because they don't have to.
@@wawis231I always thought it was because they have money to both have weddings and divorces. And can outsource all the time needed to do all that
Definitely. They probably even have an extra house they can move into right away when they split. @@lakegroce685
What i find weird is when people say celebrity relationships dont last and then quote relationships that lasted a decade and more. Thats quite a long time and not that different from the normal population
That's true! They are observed, as if under a microscope when they are celebrities, but they are just people. They have certain privileges that affect their choices. Still, there are non-famous people who have the same pattern in their relationships.
No one really teaches us how to date and maintain a healthy relationship, it's different with every couple on what makes it work out. Breaking up could just be a natural conclusion to most relationships as people learn and grow.
It might also come from people whose immediate social context has much longer lived relationships.
For example, I don't feel like I've been married that long, but I've learned from people's reactions over the years when I tell them I've been married for 8, 11, now 14 years, that everyone has a different idea of what a "long" relationship is. But my parents will be married 50 years this year, my husband's parents will celebrate 44 years, our best friend's parents have been together about that long, etc. Even in our generation, our friends who aren't married have been in long-term relationships that are well into their second decade.
So I could see someone coming from that context and being a bit more naive and feeling like dating, marrying, divorcing, and moving on all within a decade is going pretty quickly.
I love it when i’m thinking of a topic for weeks and a youtuber is on the same wavelength as me and decides to post a 30 minute long video about that topic
😂😂😂
Being with someone famous instead of being the one who is famous sounds way better because you can just sit back and be proud of them and everyone else is like yeah this person is great and you’re like yeah that’s why I married them
But then they would be super busy, if neither of you are protected in terms of privacy then you'd be in gossip news, also power dynamics wise they'd have more money and have plenty of options for a partner.
It's possible though, just have a strong trust with each other, communicate clearly and compromise on how to be a part of each other's lives in a way that benefits you both. It's just cyberbullying and other people that is the uncontrolled variable.
As long as their ego doesn't grow enough to treat you like less than. I think there were such cases and in case of women being the successful partner many men feel insecure.
you're so right miku that'd be cool as hell (provided theyre chill about it etc)
@@cookiesyruplover and non-celebrities are not busy? I'd even argue the average person is busier then the average celebrity, becase celebrities usually don't have a full time schedule. Their work hours depend on what offer they have. Meanwhile, a 9-5 job is something you do continiously. For example, I just did an internship in a law firm and I'm 100% sure that those lawyers are busier then the vast majority of celebrities
@@cobrakaier238 why would one feel insecure? I literally don't see any reason to feel inferior to a celebrity, especially when you have your own career. Being well known is not the only factor of success. Take George and Amal Clooney as an example. Amal Clooney is not a celebrity, but a human rights lawyer and she has rightfully no reason to feel inferior to her husband, even though he is one of the most well known and highest paid actors.
About Keanu Reeves, I don't know what kind of comments did you see, bit there was a lot of "you can do better" and dumping on his partner all of awful stuff. After that there was a wave of "let them be, they're good together so you should not care".
They where also calling her to old for him which is even more crazy because she’s still 9 years younger then him
Agreed, I was surprised there was no mention on the "EWWW GROSS! SHE'S SO OLD AND GREY! LULZ! WHYYY KEANU? WHY?" contingent.
Which is silly because Keanu Reeves is also old. Like these people forget a lot of these celebrities are a lot older than they look
@@randomtinypotatocriedplus she doesn’t look that old, she just doesn’t dye her grays
same thing happened to hugh jackman's wife too. she got treated so poorly on red carpert
Re: why Matt Damon and Guy From Wedding Crashers might say "civilian" to describe their partners. The only reason I can think of is that legally, there is a difference between civilians and public figures when it comes to defamation lawsuits. Public figures suing someone for defamation have different criteria for winning their case than civilians who are suing someone for defamation. At least in the United States. In the U.S., in order to win a defamation case, public figures have to prove that 1) the statement made about them is not true, and 2) that the person who made the statement did so with malicious intent. Civilians don't have to prove either of those things in order to win a defamation case (though it certainly helps).
This has been a fun fact from a longtime viewer who paid attention in their Media Law class. Lol. Much love from the states!! (Fundie Fridays shouted you out in their newest video btw, we need another collab)
Ty for explaining this! Cuz I def took it the wrong way lol (I thought they felt the need to distinguish between famous + non-famous people colloquially, which felt gross)
@@fadedandfrustrated "Civilians" has been used in that way for a very long time, it's not like Damon or Vaughn just came up with it, and i think it can be a bit disparaging, like "muggles". I imagine that those 2 using it are sort of reclaiming it - they're glad that their private lives don't revolve around publicity & conflicting work commitments, and that Damon is just a middle aged dad. The point above about malice defamation is just one example of how big celeb lives differ from the norm, more commonly its that non-celebs can't (or won't) keep up with the pressures of the industry.
I think 3 things are mainly the cause
1) celebrity egos
2) the time they spend apart
3) the choice of possible partners that they have. It is much higher cause of the fact they are famous and usually good looking.
I like what you said regarding het appearing couples using "partner" more recently.
I remember a coworker of my mother's (when I was a teen) was surprised that she knew he was gay and asked how she figured out - my mom replied, "A few months back I asked what you were doing for the holidays and you mentioned spending time with your *partner."* He was *mortified* for the 'slip.'
I will say the UK is rife with straight people who use partner, when I lived in England I kept thinking everyone was gay
Ive Had people trying to clock me because i use the Word "Partner". Now im bi but Dating a straight man. However, "Boyfriend" sounds juvenile, husband isnt true, and as far as im concerned, gender doesnt matter and it's noones business If im straight or Not.
And it is funny when people think youre lesbian and then realize they they Made a snap judgement based on one word
I’ve heard a LOT of straight couples using the term partner, it’s cool!
@@LordOfElysium I'm not married and don't like marriage, so I say partner too. Feels too weird saying boyfriend like we're teenagers or something.
@annabeinglazy5580 Absolutely same. I'm also a bi girl engaged to a cis guy and we'd been together for seven years before we got engaged. I didn't mind calling him my boyfriend, but as the years went by, I started using partner more and more for all the reasons you mentioned. Funnily enough, after we got engaged, we filed for a domestic partnership in our jurisdiction so we could share some employment benefits while we work out getting married lol. So I guess we are actually legally partners now lol.
Greenscreen Tara is groundbreaking. When are we gonna get greenscreen cow?
@bubbles581that makes so much sense!
When are we going to get cow?
I think whether the “being in the same field as your partner” thing is a negative for the relationship, really depends on the kind of field. My partner and I both are hydraulic engineers, and we spend so much of our time talking about neat hydraulics problems… and we’ve never had any competition issues of the sort. We are always just super supportive of each other and happy to learn from one another. Even when applying for jobs out of grad school, we both happened to apply for the same one. When only one of us was called back for interviews, we just celebrated the fact. So it can work, but it definitely requires the right dynamic.
Engineers are generally in high demand, while entertainment is super oversaturated. You/your partner were fine with not getting the job because there will be another one, but if you fall out of the circle of A-listers you're pretty fucked, because all the good job opportunities go to that small circle.
I totally agree -my partner of 9 years and I are both musicians, I think in our experience it has less to do with work and more with personalities -both of us also only exclusively dated musicians before one another and those didn't work out long term 🤷 Sure there can be competition (lol the classical music circle is tiny) but I think relationships are about people as a whole -how they can emotionally deal with stressors together or alone
@@icedcat4021That’s exactly why I said it really depends on the job situation. For the record, wasn’t trying to make it seem like my partner and I are better people or whatever. We are just lucky that our situation works out well for us.
Really curious about this. You don't have to answer if you want to keep your privacy but I've watched a lot of videos lately about female/male dynamics so I'm interested. In that scenario you shared where the other person got the job (or just callback?) was it the male? I can't tell your genders from what you posted.
Also, with both of you in high paying demanding jobs do you split housework evenly? and have you talked about kids? A lot of times it's assumed the mother will slow track her career to be primary caregiver.
Even in couples where both are feminists there is a lot of societal programming that leads to internalized patriarchal hierarchies and expectations.@@8114梦见
I remember letting bad relationships I was in go on for far too long because you always hear “relationships/marriages are work” “anything worth having doesn’t come easy” “relationships are about not giving up and continuing to try” etc. so I would deal with so
Much stuff thinking “I gotta keep trying, it’s supposed to be hard work”
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I try genuinely to counter this whenever I see this because I am married and just have never felt like it was work. Like have we had conflict? Sure, because we're two creatures that live together and deal with each other, I also have conflict friends, my cats, roommates, my family, etc. The conflict we have isn't any different. Outside life factors might be stressful, but I feel like we help each other through them. And I feel like it's a huge disservice to the idea of being married. I respect all relationship types, I just find it weird that people that want to push marriage so hard as the only option seem to think marriage means misery. I guess it's just what they've been told and misery loves company, but ugh I hate it so much.
Also, I feel like I have nice relationship because of the past breakups. I learned what I liked, what I disliked, what I wanted. I met a person who has a personality that meshes with mine. I learned how to communicate with a person, how not to act or be. Like the past relationships were great for exploring a lot of these things and growing up honestly. Relationships should very much be about finding a person (or people) that make you happy and support you. And that feeling doesn't have to fade. If it does, then maybe, people have grown in different directions.
I think the saying is also bad because work has very negative associations to some. Marriges aren't supposed to be negative. They're supposed to be good. A sort of better than the sum of its parts type deal.
I will never get over Kelly Rowland trying to text Nelly on Excel in the Dilemma video (0:15)
yes!! it's product placement gone wrong
Yes, lol! 😂😂😂 I didn’t even notice until my partner told me this years later 😅
Dolly Parton is a VERY famous example of a huge celebrity being successfully married to a “normie”/civilian. It could be bc they had been together from before her fame (I think). I’m not sure many gave her grief… as far as I know a lot of the public admired her private lowkey marriage situation. I always thought it was kinda unique and cool but I learned there’s even more actors out their with their civilian wives 😋 love your channel Tara!!
I believe they married after she had already been established as a singer/songwriter, because "I Will Always Love You" was written for an ex who was moving on, and I think she'd already put out a few albums before then
I think she wrote I will always love you for her co Host on a country music show on TV which made her famous when she was leaving that show. And I believe she married her husband when she was a local country star at best
I believe a lot of celebrity relationships/marriages don’t last is just because simply how busy these jobs are, often they are away from each other. Also often celebrity life moves quick, so people rush into relationships and don’t take time. Also especially with social media now, makes relationships for celebrities even harder.
I mean their jobs probably make things harder, but things like infidelity and abuse which are sadly common in a lot of these celebrity relationships are usually the case. I’m sure the environment they grew up and surround themselves in contributes to their characters, but a lot of them are just messed up people that need to seek help and/or to stay away from relationships
If these people weren't put on such high pedestals by society half the problems that people complain about would be solved. These "celebrities" are humans, they're not any worse or any better than anyone else, they just perform at a higher level when it comes to specific things, whether that be singing, acting, wrestling...whatever. If Societal norms changed, we could just give them their accolades, (when it comes to their work) and not worry about everything else that
is no one else's business. If you're a "celebrity" and you want to volunteer information... by all means, but I don't think society is entitled to anything just because somebody acted in a movie you liked, or was in a band that you listened to everyday, they still deserve privacy. They don't deserve being chased down the street by mobs of people wanting an autograph... it's literally not that serious. There have been artists, performers, and actors in my life that I absolutely love the work they've done, they've done things that I thought at the time changed my life.... but I swear to God, if I saw them on the street I would not run up to them like a lunatic and lose my mind, because ultimately this person is not changing my life. I'm the one in charge of that. Also, I feel like giving someone so much power is ridiculous and it's dangerous🤷♀️😅
@simplyspice7916 Celebrities have been around for a very very long time. I don't think they are going anywhere soon. Considering people give their lives and freedom over to an invisible man in the sky, I don't think getting super involved in Celebrity lives is that far fetched tbh. They do however deserve privacy and human decency just like anyone else and not treated like a zoo attraction just out getting coffee or something lol.
I am honestly surprised to see how many people say that the life of a celebrity is busy. No, it's not. Actors spend most of their times waiting for offers, they aren't out in the world filming 365 days of a year. MUsicians spend most of their life in the studio writing music, touring is only a very small part of it.
Teachers, lawyers, buiseness people for example are all busier then the average celebrity. Even lawyers from big law firms where they work 80-100 hours a week are often married or in a relationship
@@liste302 As someone who has experience around celebrities (I have friends who are celebrity assistants) and who works in the entertainment field you couldn't be further from the truth. The average celebrity my no means spends "most of their time waiting for roles" but that is certainly not the case for celebrity actors. Most actors are not actually famous, however, the ones that are famous have a lot more to do in the realm of responsibility than most expect. Offers aren't something an accomplished celebrity would need to wait for they are of course, "offers," so most of the time celebrities don't need to wait to hear if they have a role, it is already offered-its in the name. That being said, you are right that most celebrities don't spend 365 days filming projects, however most of their time is filming and outside of that they have to do: promo shoots, photograph shoots, editorial shoots, press tours, red carpet appearances that all end up adding up to their time. Furthermore, even aside from the actual "shooting" of a movie a celebrity typically has to dedicate time pre-production to various things related to their project. These things can be diet and exercise changes/regimens, skill development (to film I Tonya Margot Robbie spent 10 months learning to ice skate with moderate proficiency) and often they have to work with dialect and acting coach if the project requires a specific skill set (like a different accent). That's not even mentioning the factors that often actors will go "undercover" to various places in order to understand and portray the circumstances of their various characters ( Jeremy allen white went to a gourmet kitchen for the bear, leonardo dicaprio went undercover to facilities with people dealing with mental disorders for whats eating girlbert grape). For musicians they often have to to much the same things actors due, photograph shoots, filming (music videos), promo shoots, sometimes they even do promotion. And more than that they spend a lot of their time in rehearsals for music videos, concerts, tours etc. I dont mean to come off as too pretentious and I also don't mean to make it seem as though celebrities have the hardest job in the world, but while all the other jobs mentioned (doctors, lawyers, teachers) certainly have busy schedules, acting as though celebrities have laid back schedules and aren't busy in their own right is just blatantly untrue.
Congrats on getting this out in february so that your Valentine's quip at the beginning isnt too wrong!
I love spreading misinformation
@@TaraMooknee Mwahaha 😈
I think there's something to be said about being rich and not having to conform to certain expectations. I know quite a few people who have stayed in relationships because leaving would make their lives harder financially, because of judgement from family members, or because divorce is just expensive. Having money and a successful career sometimes just means freedom. You don't have those constraints anymore and you can make that decision without having to consider being able to afford living in separate houses or if your Aunt Janet is gonna think you're ruining your kids' lives.
Absolutely agree 💯
It might be interesting to compare celebrity marriages to marriages of other people who travel a lot for work with weird schedules. Even without the other pressures of being a public figure it’s really hard to be in a relationship with people who can’t be around, especially if you have shared responsibilities for example kids.
Great point. I am thinking of pilots. military folks, firefighters for example. I have heard that they are more prone to cheat and have a divorce according to divorce lawyers from the USA.
@@justinenglish_5750Firefighters and paramedics I worked with there was a running theme of divorce on how stressful emergency services was, especially if both were working in the field
Have also heard doctors and lawyers have higher divorce rates, and their version of not around tends to still be local, just busy as all get out
When you said Britney Spears and Jason Alexander, for a moment I was like "How did I not know that George Costanza dated Britney Spears??" But then I looked at the picture and realized it's a different guy 😂
I was looking for someone else to say this exact same thing! Hahah I was so confused for a couple of minutes and had to play it back and look at the picture.
Didn't know the actor'sname but thanks for the image 😂😂😂
That same thing happened during the relationship.
Omg I totally thought she dated him, and he just aged badly 🫣
Don’t worry, everyone made that joke then too.
I think what you meant to say is Freddie Prince Jr. married Buffy the Vampire Slayer... who also happened to inspire some bad ass Daphne moments... SMG did not star in her own show for 8+ years to be remembered only as Daphne to Fred. (❤ Daphne, but a true footnote in her career)
My favorite actor Peter Capaldi has been happily married to his wife since about 1991. He is such a wife guy he refuses to take his wedding ring off for any role he plays.They stared in a rom com Soft Top Hard Shoulder shortly after they got married and she produces his new show Criminal Record.
Your cats have a similar sibling energy to my cats. Reggie is always instigating play/fighting, and Veeta thinks he's a smelly boy. Veeta is also chatty and likes to burrow under blankets.
My Mylo loves burrowing under blankets too, but he's the one constantly beating up Simba. But Simba is not afraid to use his claws.
there is absolutely no WAY that the “‘well you can’t grow concrete.’ ‘yea you can’ *prolonged silence* ‘well thank you cameron. cheerio!’” clip happened organically. that’s like. an eric andre joke. i’m losing my mind rn
I've been using the term partner for quite a while. My significant other and I have been together for 5 years, both of us are in our mid-30s and his a wonderful co-parent to my 8-year-old son. In no way does all the things he does for me and my family warrant the term "boyfriend". He's more than that He lives with me He pays half the bills, He's more than that and split parenting duties.
I have an antique business so I deal with a lot of boomers and the other day I mentioned that my partner and I where looking forward to the weekend, well the Boomer customer I was dealing with had a meltdown 😂! they said don't tell me you're one of those straight couples that use the term partner or do you really mean girlfriend.....
It was the funniest thing ever you best believe when he asked for a discount on something I said no 😂
If you're the same age as the item, it stays the same price.
However we do have a special for insulting the owner of the store; 15% UP! Double for offensive phrasing and/or invasive questions!
We appreciate your patronage. 🙂
I’m bi and genderfluid and I use partner for 1. The exact reason (minus children being involved) that you stated. And 2. Partner just feels more respectful for us in the relationship of my identity and my sexuality. :)
how someone can live that long without learning to mind your own business is beyond me
To be fair, I have dated people for a month of two and wouldn't count it them as my exes, but if you are Taylor, you are spotted in public with a guy and people are printing shirts with the name list. It's complicated to judge celebrities relationships when their experience dating is completely different to ours.
Careful with that long furby. They have shown me things I cant unsee.
As a fellow advocate of "spice" as a plural of "spouse" I salute you
I don't think it's necessarily about celebrities seeking new relationships more often, but rather about them feeling less and less willing to stay in one that makes them even the slightest bit unhappy or inconvenienced, because they don't have to.
Sarah Michelle Gellar and Freddie Prince Junior are adorable tbh 😅
“I’m not dying on their hill” now THAT’S a phrase I’m going to use at work
I just wanted you to know that when Percy meowed, my cat meowed back!
I did as well
In case anyone is unfamiliar with the 'growing concrete' clip, that's a right-wing media presenter Mike Graham who is so used to contradicting his guests he claimed you can 'grow concrete' and then doubled down on it when called out. For some reason, he's still considered a credible journalist, because right-wingers now absolutely love someone who just outright denies reality.
😂 I was looking for the explanation!
I'd say the stats are true but not causational. It would be interesting to compare them to other groups with similar disposable income levels or the same ability to profit from a marriage (after all, the sample from the first study was those celebs whose wedding photos were likely sold to the 'glossy mags').
This! Definitely what I am most curious about.
I got divorced in Illinois a few years ago, and even though they have no fault divorce there, my ex and I had to stand in front of a judge and say that our marriage was “completely and irreparably broken”. It felt so humiliating and cruel.
I'm so sorry to hear that. That's just ... gutting. Thank you for sharing that - some stranger cares ♥
I'm glad you touched on the broader questions about celebrity culture at the end. Quite honestly, I'm still working to decouple "thing I like" from "person who made thing"
My parents absolutely wouldve gotten divorced if they could've afforded two separate households, but that was an impossibility. So I always think about that when it comes to people with kids getting divorced. Its so much harder to maintain two homes with space for the kids when you're not well off.
OMG I HAVE A BLACK CAT NAMED PERCY, INSTANT BESTIES 🖤
The Spice Girls were a troop of young ladies giving wedding advice "if you wanna be my lover" and so on
Dolly Parton and her totally anonymous husband
I think another thing is they can afford to get married much more quickly in the relationship than the average person. So they might find out they aren't really compatible enough for marriage sooner than ordinary couple who have to wait so many years before they can even afford a wedding.
You are so right. These people spend more money on they birthdays or Christmas parties every year than I did on my wedding, after saving for years.
It goes to show that being rich means that you don’t have to conform to societal norms or expectations. Celebrities don’t have to deal with BS in relationships. They can afford to hop around because they’re high status and there isn’t a shortage of eligible matches. Money gives them a certain level of access that average people don’t have 😮
The part about female celebrities being with non-famous people reminded me a bit about queens (like literal queens, not the figurative kind).
Prince-consorts often struggle with the fact that their wife has a higher position than them. After all, the wife of a king is a queen, but the husband of a queen-regnant is not a king.
Both Prince Albert and Prince Philip struggled with this. That being said, spouses of monarchs often struggle as they have to live for the country.
Historically, Prince-consorts have struggled more than Princess-consorts due to the masculine and conservative nature of aristocrats (a man being subservient to a woman was looked down upon). Tabloids (and the application of celebrity culture on royal families) have made the lives of queen-consorts harder.
I think it also has to do with celebrities often growing up in environments where people aren't really friends with them or actually like them but just stay with them for clout or other needs like money. This then in turn makes them less able to form propper relationships with people because they always have that doubt that the relationship isn't based on love but on other factors.
If you then marry or date another celebrity, more than often they also struggle with the lack of knowledge on propper relationships (friendly or love wise). This can lead to a lack of understanding on how to manage their relationship and doing hasty decisions. I mean, celebrities also get into marriages a lot sooner than most people do (even just months after starting to date). Or make bad decisions or just not knowing how to maintain a relationship.
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There is a fun little documentary about "civilians" ( I hate this term. I get Hollywood is a nightmare but it just feels like treating celebs like they saw action in 'Nam) dating celebrities. Its called "Guest of Cindy Sherman" and its directed by a guy who dated the iconic art photographer Cindy Sherman, and he not only shares his experience with dating a famous person but it also collects the stories of other notable "plus ones" of celebs, like Elton John's husband David Furnish. Some of the stories are kind of humiliating.I mean if two celebrities can't persevere the pitfalls of Hollywood AND a relationship, why should a normie be any better ? Some of the stories shared in the doc are squirm-inducing. There's a part where the director talks about trying to save their 5yr relationship by asking Sherman to see his therapist for couples counseling and afterward his therapist chooses Sherman as a client and jettisons him!
So yeah, I don't totally buy Damon's rationale, but good on him and his solid marriage.
Normie is more cringe lol people use "civilians" to refer to people "outside of X group" and have been doing it for a while, it's not exclusive to celebrities or the military.
Their definition of "celebrity" is super problematic and can skew the data. If you're looking for people who have been in "glossy magazines" you forget that one of the biggest topics covered in those "glossy magazines" is celeb divorce. So basically you're pulling from a pool that covers divorce in a WAY over-represented way. Now if they pulled from people who've been in the top 10 cast for the last 10 years of blockbuster movies, you may get a more accurate number.
Not saying divorce isn't higher, they just may be choosing from a data pool that skews their results.
I know it's outside the scope of the video, but the reason Marlon Brando refused his Oscar was metal as hell.
He was protesting the treatment of First Nations people in the US, especially in the film industry.
Actor and activist Sacheen Littlefeather rejected it on his behalf.
And the situation just gets weird when you know her sisters say they're not actually native American.
@@averysspookshowspectacular6205 yeah, and the SA he committed on Maria Schneider with the direction of Roman Polanski. And generally his method acting causing a ton of problems for people because he'd act like an AH. It's cool what he wanted to do at the Oscars, but I have never been able to respect anything about him with the other things.
I don't know why I was so fixated on that cat sniffing that pillow.
22:10 I am an artist and have never dated another artist basically for this reason. I've tried a few times and we clash because we both end up being stubborn, overthinking, wishy washy and over-individualistic. My most balanced relationships have actually been with techies, people in the computer field. My current partner of 3 years has a bachelor's in computer science
This comment stood out to me because I'm also an artist and ngl, I get mood swings a lot and am very individualistic. My partner is super patient and is also in the computer field. Some traits just make it easier to get along, I guess?
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If your partners success makes you resent them, maybe reconsider if youre emotionally ready for a relationship
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With money all things are posisble I guess.
The scale of that black cat is really messing me up. Like is that just a massive cat or is it me?????
I had a black cat that was that size. I had to buy dog beds because no style of cat bed was big enough.
(FYI totally healthy it was genetics and also the result of being a tomcat that went through not only puberty but full adolescence before being fixed.) He lived over 17 years.
Mr. Ella is very small, Percy is slightly bigger than average so I think them being next to eachother looks off 😂
I have been losing it over this comment for several minutes. Thank you
Some black cats are just large. Our spooky boy is 17lb and not even a little over weight. He's just massive. He's almost as big as our medium sized dog.
@@RachaelTheRed Yeah, that's about the size Ani (Anubis) was he did tip at the 20lb marker at his absolute largest point. Once again, he was healthy - just HUGE.
(I'd never heard anyone mention a correlation to black cats before. I always assumed I noticed ones of similar size because of the resemblance, not that there was a legitimate pattern. That's interesting.)
My partner and I are both bi, both identify mostly with the term queer (genders hard) and we have exclusively used partner! Even early days, my straight brother percieved it as us being too serious too fast but for us it was just the best term to use while still validating each other queerness! 7years later and we're now engaged 😊 we made that decision as two marriage skeptical people. We made the decision sooo carefully. Our love was set, marriage doesn't change that. Marriage only brings legal rights and protections for us in our future plans!
You don't need marriage to commit to someone ❤
The effort she put into it lol. You go girl. Ps: I simply love it when foreigners use the Nazaré Tedesco meme (the blonde woman confused with math)😂
I think it also comes down to lack of loyalty overall. Lets be real, when you are on the poorer end, do you throw out something when it has a defect, but still works? Same with relationships. When you have so many options thrown at you 24/7, you don't hold onto things. So the second fun ends, you're on to the next, because you can. And long term relationships can't be fun all the time, you do struggle. And it's not even that they are toxic, it's life. But celebs can afford to lead it differently.
new late-night conversation topic unlocked: is it worth having a successful marriage to your celebrity crush if they publicly refer to you as a "civilian"
WELCOME BACK! Also, hello to Producer Cow who’s a 21st Century Rom-Com Protagonist working in Media. So inspiring ❤
I think the speed with which celebs get married is an issue. They don't have to wait to save up for the big day. There is constant questioning about when/if they are going to get married, pushing for a speedy resolution. And also just a Hollywood culture of fast marriages. Of course there are exceptions but generally speaking, the faster people get married, the more likely a divorce.
And the cow?
I just found out yesterday that my cousin and her partner have been married to other people for 10 YEARS! None of them could afford the divorce, so they have just been legally married to people they don't even talk to anymore. My Mom was able to afford to get them the divorces everyone wanted. Crazy
That's absurd
Fun fact, no fault marriage was only legalised in 2022 in the UK 😅. And thanks for bringing awareness to ‘partner’ and civil partnership being gender neutral. Marriage and wedding ceremonies are extremely gendered and religious in Britain; so if you decide to go for it, enjoy feeling misgendered for 30-60 minutes straight on one of the most significant days of your lives. The term partner is pretty inclusive of all folks but also can be quite validating of non het individuals in a straight passing relationship.
i recommend not abbreviating "civil partnership" that way. that's also an abbreviation for something... vile, to say the least. just a warning.
@@cattideltarune Not gonna lie, it threw me off, lol!
@@cattideltarune Apologies, amended as recommended. My partner and I have been using it as an abbreviation as it’s more convenient and wasn’t aware of any shocking acronym related to it 😅
The real question we should all ask...why is celebrity gossip even a thing? It's boring as fuck. Plus it's not trashy enough.
Easy. It's like clickbait. Just mention the name of the celebrity, and their fame does all the work. Doesn't matter if the gossip is trashy, boring or true. Since there are so many celebrities, they'll never run out of material.
I love that a video about celebrity breakups has a lovely spotty kitty with a broken heart on their side in the background. Or at least it looks like a broken heart from this angle.
Hubby left me and our 5 young children. Ugh.. he left us for a cult.. I was a stay at home mother without a job for the last year, and he had control over all of the money he made a good amount as an engineer. Now I am in a pretty precarious situation. 😢 I can say that he left twice and I allowed him to come back twice. New fear of being a single parent unlocked. I do believe that social media is a big reason why people are leaving their spouses, access to a lot of people around the world.
Why social media as the reason?
@@someusername4129 I am not saying that social media is the main cause but a root of the problem. Divorce rates have skyrocketed after the introduction of social apps statistics don’t lie. Easy access to people creates a supply and demand. Simply put it affects relationships more than is said.
Girl he owes you alimony and child support. Do not allow him to get away scot free. You gave him children with the understanding that you would do half the work (prob more) and he would do the rest. He broke that promise.
@@someusername4129because people with narcissistic traits use it to access narcissistic supply when they inevitably discard their current victim
@@someusername4129people with narcissistic tendencies use social media as an outlet to supply the black hole of their ego, and the cycle is lovebomb, devalue, discard. Repeat over and over regardless of who it is.
Unfortunately, Keanu Reeves was also made fun of because his partner didn't hide her gray hair. Yes, he is mocked for dating a woman his own age...
Just my two cents but a lot of celebrity engagements seem rushed and I think it has to do with money.
For the rich, a wedding is just a huge party. I would never pay (let alone plan) for a wedding (and/or would get a mortgage) with someone who I do not know REALLY well. It could be exciting to plan a wedding when you have money, or if you don’t enjoy the process, you get a wedding planner and get to experience the fun parts only. However, planning for a wedding that eats up all your savings, visit venues in the weekends tired as hell after a long week of working, deciding if your dream dress worth giving up the vacation you planned for that year - I can only feel safe making these decisions with a person I truly know and love.
And for that you have to spend a lot of time together - get bored, travel when you are both tired, visit family and get frustrated, get sick, move between places, get to know all the seasons together, etc. These people it seems got married as soon as they got a bit bored and didn’t really know each other, but a wedding might have seemed to be the next fun thing to look for.
Thanks for the unconditional love, care and support you shower on me. I truly appreciate, where are you from?😊
Hear me out: a playlist of shorts with all the pet shoutouts to watch on a rainy day
Thanks for the unconditional love, care and support you shower on me. I truly appreciate, where are you from?🎉
As someone who regularly falls into Wikipedia holes and has had to look up am I watching Isla or Lois Lane? Borat and Australian Amy Adams are surprisingly well matched in their interests. Like they both studied the art of French Clowning. Not together, independently. I don't know who they would have married if not each other.
Important question:
Is Percy gigantic or is Tara tiny?
They don't need a partner for financial security. Unlike a lot of other people.
Gotta love that tabloid article, though. Like, no duh, the leads of a rom-com were kissing on set
did “requiem by mozart” start playing loudly in anyone else’s head the moment the long furby appeared? bless long furby 👁️👄👁️
Pearce Brosnan and his wife are long term ❤ and oddly, Bruce Willis and Demi Moore, even though divorced, are still very family together which is so sweet. Cate Blanchette and her hubby, gosh how many decades is that?
Why are we understanding of tabloids ruining a celebs mental health but not ruining their relationships? One is in hand with the other.
I never feel too bad for rich people BUT i will say, props to celebs in relationships with people who get romantic roles in movies/tv, I am not strong enough for that. But no shade because if i was an actor i would probably end up falling for a co star
Thanks for the unconditional love, care and support you shower on me. I truly appreciate, where are you from?🎉
I appreciate the confirmation of the cats comings and goings.
Kudos to your cats for modeling their fur after The Cow's iconic look 🎉
Because actually staying in marriage with one person your entire life is for poor people. Rich people have enough financial and cultural and social freedom to divorce and easily remarry. Poor and middle class people are burdened by moralism and religious dogma which is there to regulate the behavior of the masses, it’s a social freedom if the rich to actually enjoy life
Also life is financially easier for couples! We have no social safety net, and having a partner that can help in a crisis alleviates a bit of that.
this is it
Yep, every developing country sees rising divorce rates, and it always gets blamed on 'western influences' rather than the fact that more women are independently wealthy enough to not have to put up with your BS any more. If you've got a shared mortgage, and splitting up means you're going to have to make difficult decisions about children (rather than being able to solve all of the practical problems with an expensive nanny), and the expensive lawyers could literally bankrupt you. then there's far more incentive to try and work through problems. And that's not a criticism. It should be fine to base your decision entirely on the emotions you feel for the other person, but the reality is that for a lot of people, there are more factors involved and even an imperfect marriage may be preferable to being alone.
Well, IS that life truly enjoyable? Actually reaching that point where your relationship is a safe haven and not just a rollercoaster of emotions is so beautiful, an irreplacable feeling. Just because a lot of heteronormative culture and ideas of romance are harmful, doesn't mean we are meant to have shallow, short term relationships to achieve happiness.
Also when a famous woman dates a non famous man that man's looks, job etc. are instantly dunked on.
Having your relationship constantly being in the spotlight almost always guarantees failure. It would be nearly impossible to deal with the speculation, criticism, etc. Even if you're just a normal person posting about your relationship. People are going to have opinions and it's going to cause conflict.
4:02 I remember an interview of Priyanka Chopra where she would sit down with Nick and discuss dates with their respective entourage present.
That makes me think of that scene from "The Other Two" where they have to send his ex girlfriend to live in the woods because fans already set her house on fire.
Finally someone can articulate "Schadenfreude" the right way...
I had a tuxedo named Sylvester who looked exactly like Percy. He was also very chatty.
Celebrities used to get married and divorced all the time because of morality clauses! They couldn't be caught doing anything "indecent" so they became serial monogamists lol
Praying that Percy's future partner can handle knowing they're with a massive youtube icon🙏
Thanks for this video. You seemed to really enjoy yourself and your humor really hit for me on this one. What is that furby monstrosity?!? It's amazing
It wasn't Britney's fault for the annulment. She wanted to stay married,but her family forced her to get the annulment
Almost at 500k woman. KEEP IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The hot goss and tea I get about your pets getting along is all I need honestly. If tabloids wrote about celebrity pets instead of the people there would be a chance I'd open one of those sites
Throwback in that intro 👏👏👏