Just curious -- what else did he say? I wrote to him also (long long ago) but didn't hear back. I found his manuscript fascinating and felt a bit sorry for him, never being able to establish a relationship and also because of the bullying and psychological experimentation on him. Wonder if he might have developed more normally without those two experiences...and whether that put him over the edge?!
@@carolynrisen6212 I know he’s in prison and he was when you wrote him, but I still don’t think I’d be comfortable receiving mail back from someone who made history by mailing bombs to ppl 😂. Not that I’m worried it’ll be a bomb, but it’s just make me uncomfortable.
@@Win_R6 Yeah, I know, Secret Uzi...I've thought about that since then. But what could possibly go wrong when he's under lock and key? Such an intelligent person...a shame how he went completely awry!
Kaczynski said that the turning point for him was when he went on a hike to his favourite nature spot and found that developers had built a road through it.
HOLY $%#%. SWIM, was 14 years old and had a clubhouse in the woods, in a large tree 20 feet up. He saw that they were turning it into a construction area. He burned the tractor in the woods, at midnight while the workers were off. So, SWIM, has something in common with the UNA.
I can’t help but think that Ted is being mischaracterised when it’s said that he believed he was being controlled by technology. I think his point regarding that was addressing wider society and people as a whole. It’s a philosophical perspective which has a substantial degree of sense and merit to it. This very point has been argued by serious philosophers for quite some time now. Jacque ellul covers this in his work “the technological society”. Human beings become dependent on technology when the smooth running of society becomes entirely contingent on technology and the smooth administration of technique. The end point of all this is the quantitative state of technocracy
His manifesto is so accurate, it’s scary. There is nothing delusional about his description of modern man and his forced conditioning to a standard of life that all too often result in depression and frustration.
He raised some good points but my thinking goes like this. The environmental and humanitarian and problems caused by technology are much older than the industrial revolution and go all the way back to agriculture. That means we would need to be hunter gatherers, not Amish, in order to escape it, but who wants to be a hunter gatherer? Today's hunter gatherers have no art or science.
"If you think the government overregulates you now, just wait until the government starts regulating the genetic content of your children." - manifesto
I wonder why people skip his whole manifest, which, in essence, from my point of view, is pretty on point. Diagnosing him with modern terminology destroys his work. It played a huge part in his life and thus should be mentioned. He poured his ideas and visions into it and shouldn't be overlooked. He was a genius when it comes to analysing society.
Kaczynski is one of the few criminals that I really feel was pretty much made, not a product of his own bad choices. That poor bastard was almost deliberately turned into a pathological loner and loose cannon by self-proclaimed "experts" -- the people who totally isolated him from his mother as an infant and the rat bastards who designed that "study" and then put a CHILD through it. It was a cruel enough experience for a young adult. College student or not, he was a mere adolescent at the time. The people who did that to him should be in jail. Abusive parents, while inflicting damage, are typically mentally ill themselves. But for a bunch of highly-educated people to subject a child to what they did to Ted Kaczynski is flat out criminal. They have absolutely no excuse whatsoever.
You need to seek out a better class of channels, my favorites usually have lively and informative comment sections, but then again, I watch very few cat videos.
@@damonthomas8955 Please, share some of the channels that have substantive comment sections! Trolls are everywhere, but not going to let that stop me from seeking.
@@mariebernier3076 just off the top of my head, quantum of conscience, pockets of the future, last American vagabond, sage of quay, the history guy, lindy beige, black pilled, black pigeon speaks, vinny Eastwood. There are many others, but much of it depends on your areas of interest. Finding channels important to me has taken years, it's like wandering through a physical library in the old days, there are few shortcuts.
I've read his manifesto and he makes an excellent case for how modern technology is controlling all of us. The technology portion of his manifesto didn't seem crazy at all. Rather it explained the craziness of modern industrial civilization and where it is inevitably leading to.
You're right, we should just go back to the stone ages where people die at 40, and have no treatments for disorder or disease, women should also be considered a lower tier like they were in the olden days, and people should be allowed to kill whoever they want. Sounds like a great world, totally, the modern era is "crazy".
@@Kelis98 Capitalism is the right to have things. If you aren't a capitalist you are asking someone else to control your life, or worse think you know what is best for others. If you are against people being able to trade and go about commerce on their own terms then you are a just another authoritarian despot. Stupid commies.
Yup. It's something hard to read though, and accept as truth. I feel as if that's why people cower away and alienate anyone who might hold beliefs like this. If it weren't for the bombings, maybe people would look into it more. But, if he had never done the bombings, people would've probably never batted an eye at his manifesto.
“Industrial society and it’s future” Is a good precursor read to the works of Jacque Ellul who wrote “the technological society”. A book that is well worth reading
His high IQ could fluctuate from sky high 160 when his brain was in its prime, solving math problems every day, through lazy times in the forest, to depressive surroundings of jail. Going to Harvard at the age 16 certainly indicates an IQ of 160.
@@anthonyconde7604 he smarter than you and me had a terrible time with people would of been some one if they check his mental condition.fine line between genius and insane
I believe I read tht IQ doesn’t fluctuate much, especially another deviation. The aptitude to solve math problems was in him then and probably after his PhD.
I believe Ted was telling the truth when he said he would stop the bombing. He stated that if his essay was published, that the bombings would cease. I believe that the reason that particular bomb was made was just in case his demands were ignored.
no matter what state of mind he wasn't a liar .they believed it to ! there not gonna look like losers over human life ! just my opinion! i had to say opinion before someone else did , gotta change my last name , lol
@@primovid You could also believe that he'd continue the bombings. @KelleyKeres makes a good point it was known he was extremely distrusting, preparation for betrayal wouldn't be a far-fetched reason for the extra bomb.
@@reswobiandreaming3644 This is an important point we are losing more and more sight of in this "age of experts." Even if a person is quite bright and has done work both good and original, doesn't mean their every idea is completely true, much less so for the rest of that person's life. One can even be pretty smart and pretty stupid at the same time.
If Kaczynski had published his manifesto without committing acts of violence, virtually no one would have read it. Even after gaining infamy through his crimes, there's still a small minority of people who have read his manifesto. Of the people who've read it, I suspect none are in a position to act on it; Kaczynski was also diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, so there's no telling how genuine his opinions were, either. His writings could merely reflect his delusions caused by psychosis.
It’s a pretty tragic case, if you really think about it. It sounds like he actively sought help multiple times but incompetent professionals did nothing to attempt/weren’t able to really help him, and in turn his mental issues essentially ended up destroying him.
@@reelgangstazskip I disagree. Because most people think he was crazy and won't even read it. Had he not done the bombings, he could have actually used technology to convey his message.
Ted himself has said multiple times that the "experiments" had little effect, since it was mostly just a survey where they asked some uncomftable questions at most. The srudents at harvard where not experimented on or had to take any substance, all this allegation does is lazily try to distract from Teds message, which to this day no one can disprove. Its especialy funny when these retards then talk about "muh progress" he could have made (which is literaly the thing Ted tells us is wrong with the world).
The 167 score is definitely more accurate. I've known a bunch of people who prolly have scores in the 130 to low 140 range. Not one of them was granted a scholarship to Harvard at 15.
You overestimate the significance of the IQ test. Its premise is that pattern recognition links to intelligence and obviously the correlation is not 1 to 1, and the way they test pattern recognition is not 1 to 1 with actual pattern recognition. It has also been shown to fluctuate a lot and education is an importnant factor, so someone who does more math on a daily basis is obviously going to have a higher IQ. Getting into Harvard means studying and training your IQ test ability. I gotta say that I believe that Kazinsky's intelligence is extremely high though
@@crabb9966 Marilyn Von Savant has an estimated IQ between 186 and 228. She was interviewed on David Letterman as a result, and if you watch the interview, she explains why actual IQ scores are worthless.
@CRAbb even if you look at it without numbers. How many people have the ability to get a scholarship to Harvard at 15? Probably less than one-tenth of 1%. Get a math pHD? Less than 1%. Get a math professorship at a prestigious school before 25? Less than one-hundreth of 1%. The guy was profoundly gifted with an intellect that pretty much 100% men could only dream of. And he threw it all away.
@@Shadow77999 Wow thanks for that unequivocal answer. Here I was thinking 3 years of subjection to unethical enhanced interrogation techniques might have an effect on someone, apparently not.
@@Shadow77999 You made a simpleminded comment, it has been pointed out to you multiple times, yet you can't be bothered to come back and elaborate. This is the sort of comment (along with the bot made spams) that I call the cancer of TH-cam. Adds nothing to the discussion, yet takes up space and wastes everyone's time.
@@jeanettewaverly2590 & Andy Pete ... there's a lot about Ted's story that's tragic--for everyone even observing, like us! The Doc here was being as grounded in "facts" (documentation by entities considered in authority) as much as possible. Something happened to this little genius boy that NEVER should've happened!--that's what we could really use to learn about!
@@AtomicSonicHalos A few things happened to Ted Kaczynski, from feeling alone when he needed his mother - due to hospitalisation as an infant, apparently - to allegedly being subjected to verbal abuse from either one or both his parents (likely his father from what I have read to date), being too gifted to remain in the same class as his peers (age-wise) and so being put up about 3 grades which he hated, something he referred to as horrific and which made him subject to bullying by the older kids. Then he went to University at 16 and unfortunately he was subjected to a series of intense experiments designed to see how well he (and other students selected) could be broken down by someone they trusted who was in a position of authority, a test designed to aid the CIA but which damaged Ted permanently, leaving him understandably paranoid, cynical and angry at others plus feeling unheard and understood.
No, it's far better to put your trust in the "authorities" who send millions of tons, all over the world, at the expense of your taxes, freedoms, and life....Ted Kaczynski is a man order of magnitude more brilliant than those academicians, psychotic-therapists...and far far above the "intelligence" agents and government "officials". I far more support Kaczynski than those that are rioting, looting and murdering, the exact OPPOSITE of what Dr. King's words, and deeds....yet they so much deserve our sympathy and support.....way too many snowflakes around these days.
These videos are so amazing for helping with fiction writing. Videos like this and ones from other channels are so great for a realistic character development and have eally upgraded my writing, as well as the grades I get in the creative writing classes that Im taking. It's so awesome that we have access to so much stuff like this without having to also take a bunch og psychology classes, and channels like Charisma on Command we don't even really have classes for and it's hard to find guys like you that make things so easy to understand and relatable. Thanks so much and keep up the great work!
I have an unhealthy appreciation for his manifesto. Obviously it cannot be separated from who wrote it. But if it could be, I believe MANY would appreciate it.
Exactly. The main reason people have such a reaction to these ideas is because Ted wrote it. If this was from an anonymous author, more people would give it a chance and see that it makes a lot of sense. While I don't think industrialization and technology are the only cause of societal decline, but I definitely think it plays it's part in it.
@@Tehz1359 You might be right, but I don't think Ted would agree lol. Halfway through, he actually makes the comment that nobody would care about his writing if it were not delivered with violence. I'm not sure if that's a reference to him, but he clearly says that in his manifesto. That was actually one of the more concerning undertones of his writing: He saw violence as the most primitive (but most direct) way to exercise freedom. The upsetting part is that he was apparently 100% correct lol
Whatever, Marxist in the past killed milions of people, but Marxism is still lectured in academia nowadays and people appreciating it don't have such moral doubts.
Think about it. He was starting to be more open about what he thought and threatened to reveal all. Who would have suffered for that? Who used to be pretty radical politically but now was in a nice successful job and had recently married a woman he did not want to reveal his radical past to.
That is the power of things like hollywood fantasy when the reality is people or groups seldom stop what they are doing even after satisfying demands. That is why most countries don't nego with terrorists.
High iq doesn't mean that person is killer It simply means person is not stupid or dumb However in todays society to survive and socilize with humans is neccessary to be drunk as awake and sane a normal healthy person can not cope with insane world we are living in. This is not news yet some are in different area zones and some people are not alchoholic and alchohol drinkers, this must be due to something Think about it, how some homes are happier and luckier than others? I think people in general are not stupid. We most don't talk about it or spread horrific stories on purpose terrifying people we live with Some people are just jerks that's all, however terrifying society isn't it a crime? Children are taught of dangers in Schools, news advise us of things that happen on the outside world , to be vigilent and obsirvent. Killers are everywhere, just if somebody has a high iq doesn't mean that person is a killer however a human smart enough to avoid such other human species Survivor Survivor doesn't mean criminal, it certainly doesn't mean killer.
Could you do a video about Shallon Lesters channel? She basically is a life coach and gives psychological advice but seems to give harmful information to her viewers. She is very entertaining/alluring and has even admitted to being a diagnosed narcissist. Could you fact check the information on her channel? Thanks!
I predict Dr. Grande may cover this not to diagnose Lester but to discuss the issues related to TH-camrs who try to diagnose celebs and/or offer counseling advice to the general public without any training.
Fine, okay, but I'm commenting because of a completely different reason: I want to complain about the LENGTH of the Dr.'s videos. They are TOO LONG!! I've spoken to my relatives and friends about this, and although no one I know watches his channel, my son-in-law stated that he won't click on ANY video that's over five minutes long!! I can relate! The Dr. needs to cut the jabber drastically!!! Unless it's a subject I'm already interested in, I don't watch! Simple as that. These days, I suppose, people have time to listen to him ramblings - but when life returns to normal (whatever "normal" is,) they are not going to sit down and listen to him speak. They won't have time! I have been very annoyed by a conflict between thinking "Hey, that sounds interesting - then I check out the time - and I think, "But I don't have the spare time to listen! It's over a half-hour long!" Would it be possible for him to begin to keep his videos under, say, five minutes!? I guarantee he would snare a whole sh*t pot full of future subscribers! I can only hope he stumbles onto my comment and tries it out! I know he is a brilliant and ethical doctor, and I have no other complaints about him, but please, Dr. Grande, just try it and see what pops!!
Nancy Ayers do you have to “watch” the video? He’s literally sitting there talking, you can do what you need to do and simply listen to the video. It’s really not complicated.
@@nancyayers6355 I don't think he would sacrifice quality for more viewers. 5 minutes is not enough time to properly discuss the topics he covers. It's possible he would actually lose the viewers that watch because of the research and professional insight that require a longer format video.
It seems important to note to the general public seeking to understanding Ted Kaczynski- he was not against all technology (necessarily), but he understood the demonstrative impact “organizational dependent technology” had on individuals in an industrial society. “Small scale technology” isn’t inherently evil
This is what I really really miss about college. You speak like a well prepared, and interesting prof. Gonna watch your vids now daily. Learning is fun, not painful.
Perhaps you could make a video on the mental health and personality of Norwegian massmurderer Anders Behring Breivik? I think he actually copied a lot of the material in his own manifesto from Kaczynski. Also, his mental health were evaluated twice, by to different teams, and resulted in a public debate over the value and validity of psychological evaluation of criminals.
Martin Bryant, the Port Arthur killer in Tasmania, Australia, who at the time in 1996, set a world record for mass killings, since beaten several time, would be a good subject of study.
You know I've met a lot of people that have high levels of intelligence when it comes to academics, but literally no common sense. and yes there is a difference between academic intelligence and common Sense. It is the same concept as people having different areas of intelligence. Musical intelligence, athletic, etc. so yes there are some people that can read a book and remember it word for word, but have no idea which end to light a candle.
He didn't say academics as such - he said it of highly intelligent people. I would agree with his comment. I have met many people with a high intelligence and at best they are eccentric. I can see that at worst they could be criminally abnormal
Yes, if he had used his genius mind for the benefit of mankind instead of fear and violence, he may have come up with a cure for cancer or AIDS. Too bad.
I think there's a lot more the man could have contributed to educating the masses and maybe ultimately shaping society, but the fact I can listen to his manifesto on TH-cam and we are familiar with him is extraordinary and not even close to a waste.
Thank you for being one of the few to notice this--pretty significant mistake considering that this misunderstanding is the only grounds for their diagnosing him as delusional!
it's a brilliant piece. fascinating and hard to argue with many of the main points. he is definitely mentally ill though. that's the bit that he or his supporters won't or can't acknowledge
@@NC-ck5oj It's really hard to conceptualize oneself as a supporter of his. I think of him as someone who kind've expanded on jacques ellul's work made a great essay,then went out and sullied himself by killing. I sometimes wonder if he just would have waited a couple decades he would have far more impact as a TH-cam philosophy personality lol.
Oddly enough, everyone seems to be able to understand the fury and frustration he clearly felt. Unlike a war criminal, he is clearly “one of us,” and it’s regrettable that he was tortured by psychological experiments, upon which I lay all responsibility.
It is quite often the case that mental health professionals don't want to imply that psychological experiments can torture people. I am not saying this is necessarily the case, but I have noticed the frequent dimissiveness of the mental health profession to the existence of severe trauma from psychiatric confinement and seclusion. And they punish those that leave mental health services and they criticise those that make websites and campaigns against punitive psychiatry, except they don't look to more severe cases where people are chained etc, and extrapolate to what punitive psychiatry in a place like the US or UK might do. I went on a tangent there.
I don't know if you mentioned it, but when he was a baby he was at a hospital for quite some time due to an allergy and he was away from any human contact. His mother said that when he returned home, he was a different baby: wouldn't cry, seek her affection and seemed to be oblivious to her presence.
we've learned a lot about what children need to thrive since then. nowadays babies in the nicu are constantly stimulated and comforted both by medical staff and by their families. i know this because at my job i process high dollar medical bills. when we get medical records for nicu stays, we sometimes get the nurse's logs. so every time a nurse would visit a patient they note exactly what was done. which means several pages for each day of service containing notes that the patient's vitals were collected and the patient received "low light and quiet conditions, with blanket and pacifier provided. stimulation with song and rhythmic movement." they are held and sung to as part of their medical treatment. not only because it's necessary for their development as healthy humans, but also because of basic human empathy. (when it's a toddler or child, they also receive play therapy and the notes are extremely specific, down to which toys they select.) it's genuinely tragic that a several month old infant would suffer pain and fear from a sudden ailment and then be left alone in a bassinet for days. even if the baby doesn't grow up to become the unabomber, that's unacceptable.
Yet people, while knowing this has happened to a damaged individual and the ramifications, still judge and blame the damaged adult simply because they haven't been so affected themselves. It baffles me how they are ok with that.
That separation from his mom when he was only a few months old might have caused irreversible damage to his psyche. I've long suspected that many people who go astray in life, particularly those who apparently begin in decent shape as he appears to have done, suffer just such an unrecognized trauma. Some people are much more sensitive than others.
Agree. My son is so extremely sensitive, he actually caused his own personality disorder of schizoid because of how he viewed the painful insincere world. Thankfully with therapy, he was able to see the light again later. But it took an incredible amount of work and proper medication and for a therapist to bring to light the autistic genius that was always at his core.
David Kaczynski is a published poet. Some of his work deals with the internal struggle he had being related to someone who was so troubled. Pretty interesting
Completely agree. Ignoring his actions and looking at the Manifesto alone, he presents great arguments and analysis. I think its a work everyone should read
Ermine Starfish: Ted was spot on - technology is controlling us - e.g. people check their mobiles every few seconds and are totally addicted. Watch two people for example at a table in a cafe - each person will be intently looking at their cell phone instead of communicating. Technology is controlling us - AI will be the culmination of this project.
At 10:11“He scored a 136.” Was Ted’s score on an iq test in adult life. This show’s IQ can change! So if u have a low iq, it can change. So intelligence is not genetic, it fluctuates.
A couple of factual points: The FBI did claim it had TK on its list of persons of interest, though the name was far down the list. Also, it was TK's sister in law, not his brother David who recognized the peculiarities of TK's writing style. Concerning the accuracy of the second IQ test, which measured him at about 136 or two SDs above the mean, I would suggest that the original measurement at 160-170 was in fact the closest. It is likely that the decline is connected to his advancing mental disturbance and to stress. I examined one of his published mathematical papers and concluded that he is well into the genius range. There are many bright-normal individuals with IQs in the mid 130s. His colleagues acknowledged at the time that there were only a few people in the world who understood boundary conditions--a rather abstruse field then--as well as TK.
I saw a documentary about the Unabomber and you are right, it was his sister in law, not his brother who suggested that Ted had written that manifesto. Too bad this guy chose to act out with violence and terrorism. With his IQ, maybe he would have found a cure for cancer or AIDS.
I was scored IQ 170 as a teenager, however when I was in the midst of a psychiatric admission, I took several of those rubbish online tests, and I was not in the top
Ted isn't crazy. He's incredibly smart, and his manifesto is incredibly accurate. It is not possible to make a LASTING compromise between technology and freedom, because technology is by far the more powerful social force and continually encroaches on freedom through REPEATED compromises. Power depends ultimately on physical force. By teaching people that violence is wrong (except, of course, when the system itself uses violence via the police or the military), the system maintains its monopoly on physical force and thus keeps all power in its own hands.
A very interesting TODD Talk about TED. I saw the documentary about Ted, the Unabomber, on Netflix recently. Thanks for making this video. I really appreciate it and enjoyed it, Dr. Grande 😃🇳🇱
Thank you Dr for all of your hard work! I appreciate it so much! I was raised by my grandma who was a psychologist so I really appreciate your hard work as a Dr here ❤️
Ive rewatched this. When this was going on I was working in agriculture GMOs lab testing in California.. We were all worried when packages came in. Sad thing was many of our super genius researchers at DuPonr showed signs of mental illness and.or unexplained odd behavior. excellent info. Made sense. Clear explanation. Kudos
I will project my thoughts and stimuli...this guy summed up the world we live in now decades ago. Don't let the "science" speaking stop you from seeing the realistic ideas in his manifesto. He was mostly right while being exceptionally wrong in how he chose to deal with the problems. Go within people, and we will effect a change. Change begins internally, not as a reaction to external events or societies changing norms.
I really appreciate your closing statement about the dangerous combination of lack of empathy, high intelligence, delusional thinking, and paranoia. It feels as if the lack of empathy is what pushes people like this to do what they do. I wish they could see the benefit of caring for others. Without someone to point them in the right direction, though, what hope is there for them!
I think Ted's withdrawn nature more than lack of empathy lead to crime. Someone without empathy can realize the value of cooperation. He rejected society, and sought to change it via terror vs leadership.
No mention of a mentor. When Harvard, et all. allow a CHILD to attend you'd think it would be a good idea to have governance of some kind. Even if he was an "emancipated minor" like Howard Hughes, good advice and stewardship would protect both him and the Universities liability, especially today.
It’s very important to mention that even if he did indeed experience a psychotic disorder, violent acts are very uncommon in people with these diagnoses. In fact, violence is more likely to be committed against people with disorders like schizophrenia than by individuals with schizophrenia.
the MK Ultra experiments more likely than not did give him mental torment, leading to the violence. I believe that he's spot on in the manifesto, though what he did was unnecessary. For this reason, it seems completely unjust to have him incarcerated given that we don't incarcerate people with issues that are out of their control who commit acts of violence. It's futile.
Hmmn....you do keep banging that drum. I'm not so sure it really is important to keep mentioning it. I suspect that, even if true, your quoted statistic only applies because such people would already be in an asylum of some sort and they would be violently attacked by other inmates with similar conditions, not by non-psychotic types. Such people really are a danger to themselves and others and should be confined for the good of all. That's not to be judgemental, simply practical and realistic. Stigma is neither here nor there in the context of mass slaughter.
@@MrMatthewhg I have had organic psychosis due to congenital brain damage in my life, and currently medication keeps it at a low level. I agree with you actually - during exacerbations of my psychosis I have been a danger to myself as well as others (others when threatened by them/delusions, I would lash out) and I agree that I should have been sectioned under the mental health act. I should have been confined, however I should not have been abused in the confinement, but that's a more political management factor. It is rare of someone with psychosis / a history of it, to agree that confinement is needed ,but what are you going to do when I'm self harming repeatedly and lashing out at delusions about people? And "violence" , if you cover verbal assault and threatening behaviour, is much more common than if you just include things like grievous bodily harm and actual bodily harm (charges in the UK where I come from).
Correction of a little detail: David wasn't the one who recognized the writing on the manifesto, his wife was. She had never met Ted, she just thought it sounded like him from his letters and the stories his family told. That's how much of an obsessive maniac Kaczynski was.
Maybe you once like to do a video about the 'Hyper Brain/Hyper Body' theory from Karpinsky? This theory holds that, for all it's advantages, being highly intelligent is associated with psychological and physiological "overexcitabilities", or OEs, which seems to be an unusually intense reaction to an environmental threat or insult. This can be anything from a startling sound to confrontation with another person. Psychological OEs include a highthed tendency to rumminate and worry, whereas physiological OEs arise from the body's response to stress. According to the 'Hyper Brain/Hyper Body' theory, these two types of OEs are more common in highly intelligent people and interact with each other in a "vicious cycle" to cause both psychological and physiological dysfunction. Thank you Dr. Grande 😃🇳🇱
Do these psychological OE's include matters like hyperacusis and misophonia? I'm quite interested in nd intrigued by this topic if you'd care to mention anything further regarding it.
Never heard of this, but now I really want to. Can you link or list places where I can find out more about it, please? Edited to add, I found some info on Karpinsky and the theory.
@@pocoeagle2 Thank you. I have hyperacusis and some misophonia and wonder if it's related to this matter. I also am an INTJ (on the MBTI) and a 5 (5w4 to be specific ) on the Enneagram and apparently quite a few other INTJs and 5's, too, have hyperacusis to various degrees, as do 2 of my 4 brothers, so there's likely a genetic influence or susceptibility, and it definitely causes a lot of difficulties due to our extreme sensitivity to what's often called or dubbed 'environmental noises' which can truly cause frustration, irritation and extreme anger in some sufferers. There's no real listing of these the DSM but they're definitely issues, and I think I'll ask Dr. Grande to analyse and discuss these.
@@annewandering I’m not even saying that there isn’t some deep state shit going on. Im just saying the first person to be saying shit like that would be someone like John Mcaffee. A guy who hid in the sand for hours after the police showed up to his house when there was no warrant for arrest. This guy was addicted to and manufactured drugs.
It will never cease to amaze me how psychologists scramble to derive power by disecting people they've never met. Comfy in a warm room, classic example of psychoanalysis to secure their own ego
There may not be enough reliable information about it. Clandestine programs are . . . clandestine. But perhaps a video on the ethics of mental health professionals ever getting involved in these activities? There's plenty of solid information there!
This was so amazing cuz I just watched this on Netflix. Dr. Grande can you do an analysis of a career politician. We have all heard that they are narcissists or power hungry sociopaths. I always thought there was some truth to that. Or maybe the psychological profile of anyone seeking a position of power such as a CEO or a police officer.
Surprised you did not give the more emphasis "Ted Kaczynski, better known as the Unabomber, was once part of a Harvard experiment on psychological control subsidized by the CIA and known in turn as MK Ultra. Some say he has one of the most brilliant minds." His brother David, who turned him in has always maintained that these tests harmed a very sensitive Ted who might not have acted out if he had never been subjected to this.
This bothers me too, how professionals deny that psychological experiments of that severity can really harm a person, and childhood separation too. Its like how they rarely describe the effects of extreme childhood abuse or severely punitive practices in confinement on a criminal's behaviour.
@A C u do know when he was if fifth grade he had a IQ of 167 that is why Harvard thought he was gonna be the next great mind and this is where he created this idea that AI artificial intelligence would take over
He was so articulate and logical in its presentation of why technology was controlling all of us, that it is really hard for me to see there the signs of a delusion.
@@fifiadan It would make him morally wrong obviously. But this is irrelevant to my response. The person I was replying to said they didn't see his Kaczynski was delusional so I reminded him that he sent bombs to people. You're horribly confused.
@@fifiadan Yes, obviously it would mean he was morally wrong. Are you on a lead paint chip diet or something? I get the impression you just learned about the genetic fallacy, don't understand it, but are eager to refer to it. The genetic fallacy of course has nothing to do with genetics in the sense of DNA etc (this is important to point out when talking to a dunce like you because otherwise the next thing you'd be saying is "What does this have to do with genes?!" etc). The genetic fallacy occurs when one tries to say a claim is wrong because they're a bad person. The canonical example is that Hitler was a bad person, and vegetarian, therefore vegetarianism is bad; obviously this reasoning doesn't hold water. Obviously, if Isaac Newton was a serial killer it wouldn't mean his ideas about mathematics and physics were wrong; it would however mean he was morally wrong (i.e. a horrible person). Kaczynski is objectively a horrible person (morally wrong). This in and of itself doesn't mean his theories about the effect of technology in society are necessarily wrong; it doesn't mean they're correct either of course. However, this case is different from Hitler and vegetarianism because in the case of Kaczynski his ideas about technology and society directly inspired his homicidal behavior. Therefore while his evil deeds have no bearing on the validity or lack thereof of his rambling screed evaluated in isolation. However, since his homicidal deeds were directly inspired by his views on technology and society, the latter cannot be completely divorced from the latter. Obviously there's something fundamentally wrong with his world view if he thinks the supposed evils of technology justify killing strangers who have any connection to STEM fields. You need to understand an idea before you try to apply it. You're horribly confused.
@@b.g.5869let me help you out here; he got his warning published in the New York Times and Washington Post and here you are talking about him and his ideas 40 years later. You may not agree with his methods, I don’t, but it’s indisputable they worked and there’s nothing delusional about that.
I went to UC Berkeley. My freshman year, a student in one of my classes, who had clearly been struggling with reality for a while, killed himself by jumping off the building where TK supposedly had an office. The building had a lot of weird rumors about it. This kid thought that he would turn into a dragon before hitting the ground. He did not turn into a dragon. TK was part of his choice to use that building.
I was hoping you would include how he had a rash at 9 months and hospitalized. His mother said he changed then, he stopped smiling and didn't keep eye contact.
@@damonthomas8955 The issue is exactly that they don't say the same things about Robert Oppenheimer... That is- his cause was justified, while the UNAbomber's wasn't. If you ask me tho, neither are justified...
@suny123boy1 legality is just something written on a piece of paper, it's not an absolute, something can be legal in one place and illegal a mile away in another jurisdiction. Justification, likewise, exists purely in the mind of the beholder. Who is to say whether the use of force is more or less justified when used by an individual or an institution?
Ted wasnt "criminal", he was trying to warn us about dangers of tech. Now, people are fatter than ever, lonlier, less healthy, suicides are on the constant rise, antidepressants usage is on the rise, natality is becoming lower and lower, and my greatest fear, AI could end us all. I truly fears that we passed point of no return.
@@baizawai The lie of the social contracts get you ninehundred thousand million timesfold more likely to get ræped by the system than an entirely unique human. Have fun, i love getting cancer and mental diseases and being gaslighted too!
it's true, his message ressonates so well today, yet he was called scizhophrenic for thinking that way, even though we now know he was probably right all along
You know my dear Americans, living in the states for almost 30 years I understand now all those people like Koczinski, you are yourselves who are pushing people to the brink. Im the one who have been pushed to the edge myself. Blame yourself, not anyone else.
This one I found fascinating. I like to see what in his background may have caused him to be like this. I watched the Netflix Unabomber in his own words series it explained a lot. Now I understand more because of your video. It amazes me how you can really quickly describe what’s going on!
The social milieu in the late 60's and 70's, especially in academia, was really cold. Add to that the draft and the pressure on men in that social class to be superstars or nobody, led to some very strained circumstances in their lives, along with very little support for those who had engendered any kind of special recognition. The term "triple threat" comes to mind, which is a recipe for bullying and social ostracization. Given that, and the fact that he would most definitely be very left brain dominant, it was not a surprise to me that he eventually reacted violently and in an anti-social way toward a society that was basically dysfunctional when it came to handling "talent". Many others simply commit suicide.
From his own mouth he claimed that majority were mainly surveys so, at least in his case, it doesn’t sound super drastic, and still doesn’t explain or excuse becoming a terrorist
Ted Kaczynski was placed in a special dorm at Harvard for younger students. He was part of an intense psychological study. Such an experience, combined with a troubled childhood may have exacerbated his mental illness
The manifesto was published in The Washington Post. The last bomb was a threat in order to make it so they wouldn't publish it in Penthouse. From wikipedia: "There was controversy as to whether the essay should be published, but Attorney General Janet Reno and FBI Director Louis Freeh recommended its publication out of concern for public safety and in hope that a reader could identify the author. Bob Guccione of Penthouse volunteered to publish it, but Kaczynski replied that Penthouse was less "respectable" than the other publications. He said that he would "reserve the right to plant one (and only one) bomb intended to kill, after our manuscript has been published".[69] The Washington Post published the essay on September 19, 1995.[70][71]"
It's interesting when you watch these videos and can actually spot various characteristics in these people that mirrors your own. It's can help you understand what's happening with your own personality.
Honestly what is IQ? I have below average IQ, aphasia, autism, etc. My SAT score from the 90s was 1446/1600. Getting a high SAT score is really about learning things by rote. I am good at that. Memorizing all multiplication for numbers 0-100 was one thing I did to score so well. I read countless past tests to rote remember word associations. My HS score was 1.8 gpa. I do much better away from people.
All these years later, I continue to be fascinated by the Unabomber case-but not for the reasons you might expect. No doubt about it, Ted was seriously mentally disturbed. But the interesting thing is how many people find his ideas worth promoting. Nothing of what he says is actually original. The origins of his ideas go back through all of history, and are broadly believed, as is evident from many of the comments for this video.
It doesn't have to be original to be insightful. Please name an intellectual with "original ideas" that they conjured up without any overlap with other thinkers. We place too much emphasis on "originality". What he says in the manifesto is a no bullshit insight into what was to come - it's frighteningly accurate and it condemns us.
@@ontologicalpotato Someone else with nonsense to waste my time. Nowhere did I ever say you have to be original to be insightful. IJust saying that, if you want anyone to pay attention, to need to contribute something new, even if it's just sayign the same thing in a better way. Unabomber doesn't do that at all. I don't know of anyone who thinks he has any talent as a creative writer. He did have some proficiency in making small explosive devices. I'll give him that. OTOH he really blew it in keeping hidden. And contrary to what you say, over 90% of his claims ARE bullshit, as time will show.
@@ronaldgarrison5528- Lol what? Kaczynski got plenty of people to pay attention. More so than the likes of Jacques Ellul, Neil Postman or other thinkers of a similar ilk. Even if his ideas weren't original, he was able to thrust his ideas into the mainstream through his actions.
I heard he was once in a cell next to the 1995 Oklahoma City bomber, they must of had some interesting chats. Those talks would be material for a Dr. Grande analysis.
Exactly my thoughts, although there's much more irrationality and cult-thinking in Oklahoma City bombing case. If I remember correctly those two guys blew up the FBI shortly after the police killed a group of sect members, as a kind of retribution.
@@musFuzZ Read The Atlantic article. Murray worked for the OSS, which became the CIA. The research he later did with Kaczynski and the others at Harvard had a similar aim and design as MK ULTRA projects created to study brainwashing. Start there.
@@boatguy3800 It is not unfounded speculation, and records were classified, sealed, or destroyed. In 1977, the Harvard Crimson reported as follows: "The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) informed University officials this week that Harvard "was involved in one way or another" in two research projects conducted under the agency's MK-ULTRA human behavior control project, Daniel Steiner '54, general counsel to the University, said yesterday. Steiner said the University received substantial financial records from the CIA outlining Harvard's involvement in the controversial mind-control program. He refused to release any details about the documents yesterday, but said the two research projects in question did not include any drug experimentation. The CIA secretly operated the MK-ULTRA research project for 12 years beginning in the 1950s to study the effects of alcohol and various narcotics on witting and unwitting human subjects at a number of American universities and colleges. The New York Times reported last month that the CIA had sponsored a separate series of hallucinogenic drug experiments conducted during the 1950s at a Harvard-affiliated teaching hospital. The tests studied the effects of LSD on students from Harvard and other Boston area universities." It was easy to find, bro. I omit links, as YT usually shadows them (they make monitoring for TOS compliance too hard).
I wrote Ted Kaczynski a letter and he actually sent one back to me. He asked me to plant a tree for him in the forrest.
Just curious -- what else did he say? I wrote to him also (long long ago) but didn't hear back. I found his manuscript fascinating and felt a bit sorry for him, never being able to establish a relationship and also because of the bullying and psychological experimentation on him. Wonder if he might have developed more normally without those two experiences...and whether that put him over the edge?!
@@carolynrisen6212 I know he’s in prison and he was when you wrote him, but I still don’t think I’d be comfortable receiving mail back from someone who made history by mailing bombs to ppl 😂. Not that I’m worried it’ll be a bomb, but it’s just make me uncomfortable.
@@Win_R6 Yeah, I know, Secret Uzi...I've thought about that since then. But what could possibly go wrong when he's under lock and key? Such an intelligent person...a shame how he went completely awry!
@@percival5568 thats me!
my dad is good friends with him! he even published his book
Kaczynski said that the turning point for him was when he went on a hike to his favourite nature spot and found that developers had built a road through it.
HOLY $%#%.
SWIM, was 14 years old and had a clubhouse in the woods, in a large tree 20 feet up. He saw that they were turning it into a construction area. He burned the tractor in the woods, at midnight while the workers were off.
So, SWIM, has something in common with the UNA.
@@ChristoCurrents "Someone Who Is Me - SWIM"
@@perfidiousalbion9975 "Some White Igloo Man."
@@jenniferrock1585 it is the answer , they will never stop doing that
It was revenge , driven by being bitch slapped in college by his professors and classmates 🤔
I can’t help but think that Ted is being mischaracterised when it’s said that he believed he was being controlled by technology. I think his point regarding that was addressing wider society and people as a whole. It’s a philosophical perspective which has a substantial degree of sense and merit to it. This very point has been argued by serious philosophers for quite some time now. Jacque ellul covers this in his work “the technological society”. Human beings become dependent on technology when the smooth running of society becomes entirely contingent on technology and the smooth administration of technique. The end point of all this is the quantitative state of technocracy
You sound smart it hurt me
Set any bombs off over it?
Well said =)
We become cyborgs to appeal to AI empathy
The Netflix documentary about him is good at exploring his hate towards society
His manifesto is so accurate, it’s scary. There is nothing delusional about his description of modern man and his forced conditioning to a standard of life that all too often result in depression and frustration.
Kaczynski has written two books from prison, they're excellent: Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution
"You should read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution!
He raised some good points but my thinking goes like this. The environmental and humanitarian and problems caused by technology are much older than the industrial revolution and go all the way back to agriculture. That means we would need to be hunter gatherers, not Amish, in order to escape it, but who wants to be a hunter gatherer? Today's hunter gatherers have no art or science.
"If you think the government overregulates you now, just wait until the government starts regulating the genetic content of your children." - manifesto
@@thetruthstrangerthanfictio954 if you were a hunter gatherer you wouldn't mind being one
I wonder why people skip his whole manifest, which, in essence, from my point of view, is pretty on point. Diagnosing him with modern terminology destroys his work. It played a huge part in his life and thus should be mentioned. He poured his ideas and visions into it and shouldn't be overlooked. He was a genius when it comes to analysing society.
Because people don’t want to face the reality that 1. He wasn’t crazy. 2. He was right about what he wrote.
It is probably to complicated for most people. It is also wrong. (There is a genius born everyday and they all live on TH-cam.)
@@trevorrol7930 too complicated for you it seems
@@jasonrose1758 Yes, terrorism is too complicated for me. I don't have autism either. (There is a genius born everyday and they all live on TH-cam.)
@@trevorrol7930 But local handpicked and statewide terrorism is perfectly within you 1cell remit lol.
Kaczynski is one of the few criminals that I really feel was pretty much made, not a product of his own bad choices. That poor bastard was almost deliberately turned into a pathological loner and loose cannon by self-proclaimed "experts" -- the people who totally isolated him from his mother as an infant and the rat bastards who designed that "study" and then put a CHILD through it. It was a cruel enough experience for a young adult. College student or not, he was a mere adolescent at the time. The people who did that to him should be in jail.
Abusive parents, while inflicting damage, are typically mentally ill themselves. But for a bunch of highly-educated people to subject a child to what they did to Ted Kaczynski is flat out criminal. They have absolutely no excuse whatsoever.
And didn't they lie to him during that study about his mom and wanted to isolate him from his family? I felt bad for Ted and his brother.
Cemetery of Choice Iatrogenic Criminality?
@@dewilew2137 That's a good term for it.
I think you'll find most people have something either neurologicaly or chemically wrong or fked up in their childhood.
THIS. All of it.
This channel is one of the rare cases where the comment section actually generates interesting dialog instead of the usual cesspool.
Hoopyy I came busting in her to bring the rif raf but then I read ur comment and decided to try and pull it together
You need to seek out a better class of channels, my favorites usually have lively and informative comment sections, but then again, I watch very few cat videos.
@@damonthomas8955 Please, share some of the channels that have substantive comment sections! Trolls are everywhere, but not going to let that stop me from seeking.
@@mariebernier3076 just off the top of my head, quantum of conscience, pockets of the future, last American vagabond, sage of quay, the history guy, lindy beige, black pilled, black pigeon speaks, vinny Eastwood. There are many others, but much of it depends on your areas of interest. Finding channels important to me has taken years, it's like wandering through a physical library in the old days, there are few shortcuts.
@@mariebernier3076 Corbett report
I’ve been waiting for this Ted talk.
Ted talk I think you only get 15 minutes. I think there's too much for 15 minutes.
@@robertthomas5906 : you missed the wordplay...
Ted or TedX? More like TedXplosion!
Nice ....
Can someone shed light as to whether or not his brother or the $1mil? 😶
I've read his manifesto and he makes an excellent case for how modern technology is controlling all of us. The technology portion of his manifesto didn't seem crazy at all. Rather it explained the craziness of modern industrial civilization and where it is inevitably leading to.
You're right, we should just go back to the stone ages where people die at 40, and have no treatments for disorder or disease, women should also be considered a lower tier like they were in the olden days, and people should be allowed to kill whoever they want.
Sounds like a great world, totally, the modern era is "crazy".
Technology isn’t good or bad, it’s a tool
The problem is capitalism and how our society is organized
@@Kelis98 You obviously didn't read his book did you.
It’s sad this bit was misinterpreted as a delusion. It kinda hurt when Grande said technology controlling people would count as a delusion
@@Kelis98 Capitalism is the right to have things. If you aren't a capitalist you are asking someone else to control your life, or worse think you know what is best for others. If you are against people being able to trade and go about commerce on their own terms then you are a just another authoritarian despot. Stupid commies.
Saw a meme that had his face on it and the caption said, "Yeah I'm mail voting"
Lmao
"Ted Kaczynski at Home Depot. I wonder what he'll buy"
I shared it 😭
Yes yes!!😁🥳
Ppl in America who have been in Prison, lose their right to vote.
If you read his manifesto.. you'd know this guy was pretty on-point lol.
Yup. It's something hard to read though, and accept as truth. I feel as if that's why people cower away and alienate anyone who might hold beliefs like this. If it weren't for the bombings, maybe people would look into it more. But, if he had never done the bombings, people would've probably never batted an eye at his manifesto.
Yep. He forewarned about the evils of corporations, mass media, corrupt groups like antifa/blm, government overreach & environmental destruction.
@@targetedindividualsresearch true, wouldn't want to harm anyone, tho his manifesto wouldn't have gotten much attn otherwise
I thought so too. Except for the killing part .
@Archive of Sv3rige @FBI over here, we found one
“Industrial society and it’s future” Is a good precursor read to the works of Jacque Ellul who wrote “the technological society”. A book that is well worth reading
Ellul had a huge influence on Ted.
also Heidegger's The Question Concerning Technology
I'm familiar with his mathematical work. 160-170 is very plausible
This guy misses the mark sometimes
0.003% are IQ 160 or higher
His high IQ could fluctuate from sky high 160 when his brain was in its prime, solving math problems every day, through lazy times in the forest, to depressive surroundings of jail. Going to Harvard at the age 16 certainly indicates an IQ of 160.
@@anthonyconde7604 he smarter than you and me had a terrible time with people would of been some one if they check his mental condition.fine line between genius and insane
I believe I read tht IQ doesn’t fluctuate much, especially another deviation. The aptitude to solve math problems was in him then and probably after his PhD.
"Lazy times in the forest"
IQ scores have gone up during the last 100 years (Flynn effect). Getting a 160 in the 1940s is like a 115 today.
@@evanb4189 Maybe like 3 points per decade so it would mean 136.
I believe Ted was telling the truth when he said he would stop the bombing.
He stated that if his essay was published, that the bombings would cease. I believe that the reason that particular bomb was made was just in case his demands were ignored.
"If you can't trust Ted Kaczynski, who can you trust?"
no matter what state of mind he wasn't a liar .they believed it to ! there not gonna look like losers over human life ! just my opinion! i had to say opinion before someone else did , gotta change my last name , lol
No basis for that belief other than opinion. You could also believe in the tooth fairy.
@@primovid You could also believe that he'd continue the bombings. @KelleyKeres makes a good point it was known he was extremely distrusting, preparation for betrayal wouldn't be a far-fetched reason for the extra bomb.
"Some academics have high intelligence but no common sense."
We see that every single day in the news.
No and yes.
But are the ones on the news genuine academics. Just because a person has a degree doesn't mean they are an intellectual.
@@reswobiandreaming3644 This is an important point we are losing more and more sight of in this "age of experts." Even if a person is quite bright and has done work both good and original, doesn't mean their every idea is completely true, much less so for the rest of that person's life. One can even be pretty smart and pretty stupid at the same time.
Common sense is what animals have.
Ive noticed dumb people have no cents ($) .
Kaczynski was brilliant. It's too bad he didn't stick to just writing. He could have conveyed his message without violence.
If Kaczynski had published his manifesto without committing acts of violence, virtually no one would have read it. Even after gaining infamy through his crimes, there's still a small minority of people who have read his manifesto. Of the people who've read it, I suspect none are in a position to act on it; Kaczynski was also diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, so there's no telling how genuine his opinions were, either. His writings could merely reflect his delusions caused by psychosis.
It's too bad he was caught.
I wonder what he's been thinking in prison all these years watching technology's effect on society. Probably "I WAS RIGHT."
It’s a pretty tragic case, if you really think about it. It sounds like he actively sought help multiple times but incompetent professionals did nothing to attempt/weren’t able to really help him, and in turn his mental issues essentially ended up destroying him.
@@reelgangstazskip I disagree. Because most people think he was crazy and won't even read it. Had he not done the bombings, he could have actually used technology to convey his message.
Modern technology is controlling us!,,, Ted was right about EVERYTHING
Meet you at the hardware store...
Most people can agree with this statement, at least to an extent, yet would probably vilify Ted if this were to happen today.
Ted was dead wrong about the solution, killing and maiming a few random people is obviously not going to make the world a better place.
@@damonthomas8955 it wasn't meant as a solution, it was meant to bring attention to his ideology.
@@kvdrr Oh, thank goodness then...
They took a high level genius and melted his brain with MKultra experiments. What, exactly, did they expect to happen?
Imagine if MKUltra hadn't melted his brain we might've had a badass trans woman in the Mathematics department in Berkeley
@Seven Inches of Throbbing Pink Jesus The Unwashed, low iq masses and its consequences have been a disaster for the intellectually gifted.
Ted himself has said multiple times that the "experiments" had little effect, since it was mostly just a survey where they asked some uncomftable questions at most. The srudents at harvard where not experimented on or had to take any substance, all this allegation does is lazily try to distract from Teds message, which to this day no one can disprove. Its especialy funny when these retards then talk about "muh progress" he could have made (which is literaly the thing Ted tells us is wrong with the world).
Does anyone have any SOURCES to indicate or determine 1: he was a part of the actual MKultra program 2. If he was dosed with LSD?
@@nervesinapattern7261 wow must be tough
The 167 score is definitely more accurate. I've known a bunch of people who prolly have scores in the 130 to low 140 range. Not one of them was granted a scholarship to Harvard at 15.
You overestimate the significance of the IQ test. Its premise is that pattern recognition links to intelligence and obviously the correlation is not 1 to 1, and the way they test pattern recognition is not 1 to 1 with actual pattern recognition. It has also been shown to fluctuate a lot and education is an importnant factor, so someone who does more math on a daily basis is obviously going to have a higher IQ. Getting into Harvard means studying and training your IQ test ability. I gotta say that I believe that Kazinsky's intelligence is extremely high though
@@crabb9966 Marilyn Von Savant has an estimated IQ between 186 and 228.
She was interviewed on David Letterman as a result, and if you watch the interview, she explains why actual IQ scores are worthless.
@CRAbb even if you look at it without numbers. How many people have the ability to get a scholarship to Harvard at 15? Probably less than one-tenth of 1%. Get a math pHD? Less than 1%. Get a math professorship at a prestigious school before 25? Less than one-hundreth of 1%. The guy was profoundly gifted with an intellect that pretty much 100% men could only dream of. And he threw it all away.
I was hoping you would talk about the affect of Murray experiment on him. I believe it had huge impact on his behavior.
It did not at all
@@Shadow77999 Wow thanks for that unequivocal answer. Here I was thinking 3 years of subjection to unethical enhanced interrogation techniques might have an effect on someone, apparently not.
@@Shadow77999 lmao let me gaslight you for 3 years and see what it does to you.
@@Shadow77999 You made a simpleminded comment, it has been pointed out to you multiple times, yet you can't be bothered to come back and elaborate. This is the sort of comment (along with the bot made spams) that I call the cancer of TH-cam. Adds nothing to the discussion, yet takes up space and wastes everyone's time.
@@Shadow77999 tell us you have no compassion or understanding of the longer effects of torture without telling us you're heartless. Dayumn 😳
So his motives were "leave me the hell alone!" I can relate to that.
andy pete I can too, but I don’t go around blowing up people to emphasize my point.
@@jeanettewaverly2590 & Andy Pete ... there's a lot about Ted's story that's tragic--for everyone even observing, like us! The Doc here was being as grounded in "facts" (documentation by entities considered in authority) as much as possible. Something happened to this little genius boy that NEVER should've happened!--that's what we could really use to learn about!
Atomic Sonic Amen to that.
@@AtomicSonicHalos A few things happened to Ted Kaczynski, from feeling alone when he needed his mother - due to hospitalisation as an infant, apparently - to allegedly being subjected to verbal abuse from either one or both his parents (likely his father from what I have read to date), being too gifted to remain in the same class as his peers (age-wise) and so being put up about 3 grades which he hated, something he referred to as horrific and which made him subject to bullying by the older kids. Then he went to University at 16 and unfortunately he was subjected to a series of intense experiments designed to see how well he (and other students selected) could be broken down by someone they trusted who was in a position of authority, a test designed to aid the CIA but which damaged Ted permanently, leaving him understandably paranoid, cynical and angry at others plus feeling unheard and understood.
If only he left every one else the hell alone.
"If ya can't trust a guy who sends explosives all around the country, who can ya trust?" I'm dyin'!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No, it's far better to put your trust in the "authorities" who send millions of tons, all over the world, at the expense of your taxes, freedoms, and life....Ted Kaczynski is a man order of magnitude more brilliant than those academicians, psychotic-therapists...and far far above the "intelligence" agents and government "officials". I far more support Kaczynski than those that are rioting, looting and murdering, the exact OPPOSITE of what Dr. King's words, and deeds....yet they so much deserve our sympathy and support.....way too many snowflakes around these days.
We always give terrorists the benefit of the doubt, but Ted let all of us down.
No we should trust the Jeffery Epstein’s that run this world.
Kaczynski has written two books from prison, they're excellent: Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution
These videos are so amazing for helping with fiction writing. Videos like this and ones from other channels are so great for a realistic character development and have eally upgraded my writing, as well as the grades I get in the creative writing classes that Im taking. It's so awesome that we have access to so much stuff like this without having to also take a bunch og psychology classes, and channels like Charisma on Command we don't even really have classes for and it's hard to find guys like you that make things so easy to understand and relatable. Thanks so much and keep up the great work!
I have an unhealthy appreciation for his manifesto. Obviously it cannot be separated from who wrote it. But if it could be, I believe MANY would appreciate it.
You need act it not just appreciate it.
Exactly. The main reason people have such a reaction to these ideas is because Ted wrote it. If this was from an anonymous author, more people would give it a chance and see that it makes a lot of sense. While I don't think industrialization and technology are the only cause of societal decline, but I definitely think it plays it's part in it.
@@Tehz1359 You might be right, but I don't think Ted would agree lol. Halfway through, he actually makes the comment that nobody would care about his writing if it were not delivered with violence. I'm not sure if that's a reference to him, but he clearly says that in his manifesto.
That was actually one of the more concerning undertones of his writing: He saw violence as the most primitive (but most direct) way to exercise freedom.
The upsetting part is that he was apparently 100% correct lol
Whatever, Marxist in the past killed milions of people, but Marxism is still lectured in academia nowadays and people appreciating it don't have such moral doubts.
@@Tehz1359 you're wrong. Nothing he said is original. And what do you mean "give it a chance"?? As if we're all one brain doing the same things.
It was David’s wife that recognized that the writing seemed like Ted’s. David, naturally, struggled to believe that it was his brother at first.
Yuuup
That's how I remember it.
No it wasn't. She didn't even read it. She just hated Ted.
That is correct according to my research. It wasn't the writing itself, it was the content that convinced her.
Think about it. He was starting to be more open about what he thought and threatened to reveal all. Who would have suffered for that? Who used to be pretty radical politically but now was in a nice successful job and had recently married a woman he did not want to reveal his radical past to.
If you can’t trust Kaczynski, who can you trust?! Lol 🤣
That is the power of things like hollywood fantasy when the reality is people or groups seldom stop what they are doing even after satisfying demands. That is why most countries don't nego with terrorists.
High iq doesn't mean that person is killer
It simply means person is not stupid or dumb
However in todays society to survive and socilize with humans is neccessary to be drunk as awake and sane a normal healthy person can not cope with insane world we are living in.
This is not news yet some are in different area zones and some people are not alchoholic and alchohol drinkers, this must be due to something
Think about it, how some homes are happier and luckier than others? I think people in general are not stupid. We most don't talk about it or spread horrific stories on purpose terrifying people we live with
Some people are just jerks that's all, however terrifying society isn't it a crime?
Children are taught of dangers in Schools, news advise us of things that happen on the outside world , to be vigilent and obsirvent.
Killers are everywhere, just if somebody has a high iq doesn't mean that person is a killer however a human smart enough to avoid such other human species
Survivor
Survivor doesn't mean criminal, it certainly doesn't mean killer.
I trust jess
Donald Trump?
You wouldn't get it
Could you do a video about Shallon Lesters channel? She basically is a life coach and gives psychological advice but seems to give harmful information to her viewers. She is very entertaining/alluring and has even admitted to being a diagnosed narcissist. Could you fact check the information on her channel? Thanks!
I predict Dr. Grande may cover this not to diagnose Lester but to discuss the issues related to TH-camrs who try to diagnose celebs and/or offer counseling advice to the general public without any training.
Fine, okay, but I'm commenting because of a
completely different reason: I want to complain about the LENGTH of the Dr.'s videos. They are
TOO LONG!! I've spoken to my relatives and friends about this, and although no one I know
watches his channel, my son-in-law stated that
he won't click on ANY video that's over five minutes long!! I can relate! The Dr. needs to
cut the jabber drastically!!! Unless it's a subject I'm already interested in, I don't watch! Simple
as that. These days, I suppose, people have
time to listen to him ramblings - but when life
returns to normal (whatever "normal" is,) they
are not going to sit down and listen to him speak. They won't have time! I have been very
annoyed by a conflict between thinking "Hey,
that sounds interesting - then I check out the
time - and I think, "But I don't have the spare
time to listen! It's over a half-hour long!" Would
it be possible for him to begin to keep his videos under, say, five minutes!? I guarantee
he would snare a whole sh*t pot full of future
subscribers! I can only hope he stumbles onto my comment and tries it out! I know he is a brilliant and ethical doctor, and I have no other
complaints about him, but please, Dr. Grande,
just try it and see what pops!!
Nancy Ayers do you have to “watch” the video? He’s literally sitting there talking, you can do what you need to do and simply listen to the video. It’s really not complicated.
@@nancyayers6355 I don't think he would sacrifice quality for more viewers. 5 minutes is not enough time to properly discuss the topics he covers. It's possible he would actually lose the viewers that watch because of the research and professional insight that require a longer format video.
Time for Nancy to find a new channel.
I love the straightforward breakdown and analysis, and the lack of obnoxious background music thank you sir, great format you've got a new fan!
Kaczynski has written two books from prison, they're excellent: Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution
@@davidochieng9296 He has a fascinating mind. Shame put it to bad use in the end
It seems important to note to the general public seeking to understanding Ted Kaczynski- he was not against all technology (necessarily), but he understood the demonstrative impact “organizational dependent technology” had on individuals in an industrial society. “Small scale technology” isn’t inherently evil
This is what I really really miss about college. You speak like a well prepared, and interesting prof. Gonna watch your vids now daily. Learning is fun, not painful.
Perhaps you could make a video on the mental health and personality of Norwegian massmurderer Anders Behring Breivik? I think he actually copied a lot of the material in his own manifesto from Kaczynski. Also, his mental health were evaluated twice, by to different teams, and resulted in a public debate over the value and validity of psychological evaluation of criminals.
Please yes!
BLOCH FORLAG yes!
This would be incredible!
I'm interested in this too.
Martin Bryant, the Port Arthur killer in Tasmania, Australia, who at the time in 1996, set a world record for mass killings, since beaten several time, would be a good subject of study.
Dr. Grande I was laughing when you blantly said some academics had a lot of intelligence but no common sense in 7:37.
😂😂😂
Valerik 13 Yep, that’s academia in a nutshell.
it's referred to as the "Ivory Tower" for a reason. Many I've met don't think they HAVE to have common sense. That's for the peasants.
You know I've met a lot of people that have high levels of intelligence when it comes to academics, but literally no common sense. and yes there is a difference between academic intelligence and common Sense. It is the same concept as people having different areas of intelligence. Musical intelligence, athletic, etc. so yes there are some people that can read a book and remember it word for word, but have no idea which end to light a candle.
*blatantly*
He didn't say academics as such - he said it of highly intelligent people. I would agree with his comment. I have met many people with a high intelligence and at best they are eccentric. I can see that at worst they could be criminally abnormal
Ted is an actual genius, it’s so sad this amazing intellect has gone to waste.
Yes, if he had used his genius mind for the benefit of mankind instead of fear and violence, he may have come up with a cure for cancer or AIDS. Too bad.
I think there's a lot more the man could have contributed to educating the masses and maybe ultimately shaping society, but the fact I can listen to his manifesto on TH-cam and we are familiar with him is extraordinary and not even close to a waste.
The mk ultra brianwashing def traumatized him
It has not, millions of zoomers are now awake to the technocratic nightmare planned for humanity.
@A named Dwarf Between two ages; America's role in the technetronic era - Zbigniew Brzezinski
Kaczynski didn't think technology was controlling him but that it controls us all. That is a terrible error, Dr. Grande.
Thank you for being one of the few to notice this--pretty significant mistake considering that this misunderstanding is the only grounds for their diagnosing him as delusional!
This ted guy sounds kinda based
He is
Based on what?
Go read Industrial Society and it’s Future
Ted >
@@MrGuano11 Based refers to a slang term meaning to unapologetically be yourself despite criticism
He was a psycho killer, and a coward at that.
I recommend reading his essay.
I have. For the most part he is correct. Too much dependence on technology will have terrible consequences for us.
@@devinwatson4594 Free Ted!!
it's a brilliant piece. fascinating and hard to argue with many of the main points. he is definitely mentally ill though. that's the bit that he or his supporters won't or can't acknowledge
@@NC-ck5oj It's really hard to conceptualize oneself as a supporter of his. I think of him as someone who kind've expanded on jacques ellul's work made a great essay,then went out and sullied himself by killing. I sometimes wonder if he just would have waited a couple decades he would have far more impact as a TH-cam philosophy personality lol.
Oddly enough, everyone seems to be able to understand the fury and frustration he clearly felt. Unlike a war criminal, he is clearly “one of us,” and it’s regrettable that he was tortured by psychological experiments, upon which I lay all responsibility.
It is quite often the case that mental health professionals don't want to imply that psychological experiments can torture people. I am not saying this is necessarily the case, but I have noticed the frequent dimissiveness of the mental health profession to the existence of severe trauma from psychiatric confinement and seclusion. And they punish those that leave mental health services and they criticise those that make websites and campaigns against punitive psychiatry, except they don't look to more severe cases where people are chained etc, and extrapolate to what punitive psychiatry in a place like the US or UK might do. I went on a tangent there.
I don't know if you mentioned it, but when he was a baby he was at a hospital for quite some time due to an allergy and he was away from any human contact. His mother said that when he returned home, he was a different baby: wouldn't cry, seek her affection and seemed to be oblivious to her presence.
Poor kid
I think it is because he's mildly autistic. Everything, especially his IQ, first the bill.
we've learned a lot about what children need to thrive since then.
nowadays babies in the nicu are constantly stimulated and comforted both by medical staff and by their families. i know this because at my job i process high dollar medical bills. when we get medical records for nicu stays, we sometimes get the nurse's logs. so every time a nurse would visit a patient they note exactly what was done.
which means several pages for each day of service containing notes that the patient's vitals were collected and the patient received "low light and quiet conditions, with blanket and pacifier provided. stimulation with song and rhythmic movement." they are held and sung to as part of their medical treatment.
not only because it's necessary for their development as healthy humans, but also because of basic human empathy. (when it's a toddler or child, they also receive play therapy and the notes are extremely specific, down to which toys they select.)
it's genuinely tragic that a several month old infant would suffer pain and fear from a sudden ailment and then be left alone in a bassinet for days. even if the baby doesn't grow up to become the unabomber, that's unacceptable.
Yet people, while knowing this has happened to a damaged individual and the ramifications, still judge and blame the damaged adult simply because they haven't been so affected themselves. It baffles me how they are ok with that.
@@zubetpfrom personal experience, i can say it absolutely destroys a human psyche, i hope things are different now...
That separation from his mom when he was only a few months old might have caused irreversible damage to his psyche. I've long suspected that many people who go astray in life, particularly those who apparently begin in decent shape as he appears to have done, suffer just such an unrecognized trauma. Some people are much more sensitive than others.
Agree. My son is so extremely sensitive, he actually caused his own personality disorder of schizoid because of how he viewed the painful insincere world. Thankfully with therapy, he was able to see the light again later. But it took an incredible amount of work and proper medication and for a therapist to bring to light the autistic genius that was always at his core.
You forgot he was a victim of 3 years of mk ultra brainwashing
Not the govt torture program in Harvard that's very well known.. okay buddy
Kaczynski has written two books from prison, they're excellent: Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution
Gabor Mate would immediately agree.
David Kaczynski is a published poet. Some of his work deals with the internal struggle he had being related to someone who was so troubled. Pretty interesting
Good analysis
@Jesper Jansen David really got the short end of the stick in that family.
@@JohnSmith-ds7oi Did he?
He should feel bad for destroying a hero.
@@JeanDeaux666 Your profile picture matches your comment.
Read "Industrial society and its future". I've yet to see anyone answer his arguments.
Completely agree. Ignoring his actions and looking at the Manifesto alone, he presents great arguments and analysis. I think its a work everyone should read
The only thing he was wrong about was thinking there's anything we can do to stop it.
Ryan Dawson has a few streams where he talks about this. He does agree with much of his manifest, and he brings many good arguments into the debate.
Ermine Starfish: Ted was spot on - technology is controlling us - e.g. people check their mobiles every few seconds and are totally addicted. Watch two people for example at a table in a cafe - each person will be intently looking at their cell phone instead of communicating. Technology is controlling us - AI will be the culmination of this project.
Is that the name of his manifesto?
At 10:11“He scored a 136.” Was Ted’s score on an iq test in adult life. This show’s IQ can change! So if u have a low iq, it can change. So intelligence is not genetic, it fluctuates.
Reading the Unabombers Manifesto today....it seems Ted was correct in a great many things.
All his "good points" are just alienation, its low hanging fruit that anyone can point out, fascists doing all the time
And, it's poorly written especially from someone with a genius IQ. Would love to read it after a professional edit job.
Maximiliano Madrigal fascist are right
Imagine beeing filtered by Kaczynski lmao
A couple of factual points: The FBI did claim it had TK on its list of persons of interest, though the name was far down the list. Also, it was TK's sister in law, not his brother David who recognized the peculiarities of TK's writing style.
Concerning the accuracy of the second IQ test, which measured him at about 136 or two SDs above the mean, I would suggest that the original measurement at 160-170 was in fact the closest. It is likely that the decline is connected to his advancing mental disturbance and to stress. I examined one of his published mathematical papers and concluded that he is well into the genius range. There are many bright-normal individuals with IQs in the mid 130s. His colleagues acknowledged at the time that there were only a few people in the world who understood boundary conditions--a rather abstruse field then--as well as TK.
These mental health professionals just love to shit on anyone that they feel morally right in examining under the microscope.
I saw a documentary about the Unabomber and you are right, it was his sister in law, not his brother who suggested that Ted had written that manifesto. Too bad this guy chose to act out with violence and terrorism. With his IQ, maybe he would have found a cure for cancer or AIDS.
I was scored IQ 170 as a teenager, however when I was in the midst of a psychiatric admission, I took several of those rubbish online tests, and I was not in the top
Ted isn't crazy. He's incredibly smart, and his manifesto is incredibly accurate.
It is not possible to make a LASTING compromise between technology and freedom, because technology is by far the more powerful social force and continually encroaches on freedom through REPEATED compromises.
Power depends ultimately on physical force. By teaching people that violence is wrong (except, of course, when the system itself uses violence via the police or the military), the system maintains its monopoly on physical force and thus keeps all power in its own hands.
Kaczynski has written two books from prison, they're excellent: Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution .😊
A very interesting TODD Talk about TED. I saw the documentary about Ted, the Unabomber, on Netflix recently. Thanks for making this video. I really appreciate it and enjoyed it, Dr. Grande 😃🇳🇱
Thank you Dr for all of your hard work! I appreciate it so much! I was raised by my grandma who was a psychologist so I really appreciate your hard work as a Dr here ❤️
Ive rewatched this. When this was going on I was working in agriculture GMOs lab testing in California.. We were all worried when packages came in. Sad thing was many of our super genius researchers at DuPonr showed signs of mental illness and.or unexplained odd behavior. excellent info. Made sense. Clear explanation. Kudos
I will project my thoughts and stimuli...this guy summed up the world we live in now decades ago. Don't let the "science" speaking stop you from seeing the realistic ideas in his manifesto. He was mostly right while being exceptionally wrong in how he chose to deal with the problems. Go within people, and we will effect a change. Change begins internally, not as a reaction to external events or societies changing norms.
I really appreciate your closing statement about the dangerous combination of lack of empathy, high intelligence, delusional thinking, and paranoia. It feels as if the lack of empathy is what pushes people like this to do what they do. I wish they could see the benefit of caring for others. Without someone to point them in the right direction, though, what hope is there for them!
Mermaid Mansion it has very little to do with someone pointing them in the right direction. In most cases, their brains are wired differently.
I think Ted's withdrawn nature more than lack of empathy lead to crime. Someone without empathy can realize the value of cooperation. He rejected society, and sought to change it via terror vs leadership.
No mention of a mentor. When Harvard, et all. allow a CHILD to attend you'd think it would be a good idea to have governance of some kind. Even if he was an "emancipated minor" like Howard Hughes, good advice and stewardship would protect both him and the Universities liability, especially today.
Mermaid Mansion it doesn’t seem too delusional, considering nearly every societal critique he has leveled has a fair amount of validity to it
It's a good idea to try. But I don't think they will listen.
It’s very important to mention that even if he did indeed experience a psychotic disorder, violent acts are very uncommon in people with these diagnoses. In fact, violence is more likely to be committed against people with disorders like schizophrenia than by individuals with schizophrenia.
the MK Ultra experiments more likely than not did give him mental torment, leading to the violence. I believe that he's spot on in the manifesto, though what he did was unnecessary. For this reason, it seems completely unjust to have him incarcerated given that we don't incarcerate people with issues that are out of their control who commit acts of violence. It's futile.
Riley you're VERY wrong.
Hmmn....you do keep banging that drum. I'm not so sure it really is important to keep mentioning it.
I suspect that, even if true, your quoted statistic only applies because such people would already be in an asylum of some sort and they would be violently attacked by other inmates with similar conditions, not by non-psychotic types.
Such people really are a danger to themselves and others and should be confined for the good of all. That's not to be judgemental, simply practical and realistic. Stigma is neither here nor there in the context of mass slaughter.
I’ve seen this soundbite before. What are your sources?
@@MrMatthewhg I have had organic psychosis due to congenital brain damage in my life, and currently medication keeps it at a low level. I agree with you actually - during exacerbations of my psychosis I have been a danger to myself as well as others (others when threatened by them/delusions, I would lash out) and I agree that I should have been sectioned under the mental health act. I should have been confined, however I should not have been abused in the confinement, but that's a more political management factor. It is rare of someone with psychosis / a history of it, to agree that confinement is needed ,but what are you going to do when I'm self harming repeatedly and lashing out at delusions about people? And "violence" , if you cover verbal assault and threatening behaviour, is much more common than if you just include things like grievous bodily harm and actual bodily harm (charges in the UK where I come from).
I think Ted said the only reason he took the Asst Professorship at Berkeley was to fund his eventual move into the woods.
"You should read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution!
Correction of a little detail: David wasn't the one who recognized the writing on the manifesto, his wife was. She had never met Ted, she just thought it sounded like him from his letters and the stories his family told. That's how much of an obsessive maniac Kaczynski was.
Yes, I saw a documentary about the Unabomber and his sister in law told her husband, that sounds like something your brother would say
Growing up we had a cabin in Lincoln. Its nuts how we could have passed by him on hikes
We have been waiting for this.
The Netflix special credits the brother's wife for first suggesting the manifesto was written by Ted.
Maybe you once like to do a video about the 'Hyper Brain/Hyper Body' theory from Karpinsky? This theory holds that, for all it's advantages, being highly intelligent is associated with psychological and physiological "overexcitabilities", or OEs, which seems to be an unusually intense reaction to an environmental threat or insult. This can be anything from a startling sound to confrontation with another person.
Psychological OEs include a highthed tendency to rumminate and worry, whereas physiological OEs arise from the body's response to stress. According to the 'Hyper Brain/Hyper Body' theory, these two types of OEs are more common in highly intelligent people and interact with each other in a "vicious cycle" to cause both psychological and physiological dysfunction. Thank you Dr. Grande 😃🇳🇱
Wow, this sounds very interesting!
Do these psychological OE's include matters like hyperacusis and misophonia? I'm quite interested in nd intrigued by this topic if you'd care to mention anything further regarding it.
Never heard of this, but now I really want to. Can you link or list places where I can find out more about it, please?
Edited to add, I found some info on Karpinsky and the theory.
@@Adara007 I don't exactly know about your question, but if you search on Google " Karpinsky Hyper Brain", you can read more about it.
@@pocoeagle2 Thank you. I have hyperacusis and some misophonia and wonder if it's related to this matter. I also am an INTJ (on the MBTI) and a 5 (5w4 to be specific ) on the Enneagram and apparently quite a few other INTJs and 5's, too, have hyperacusis to various degrees, as do 2 of my 4 brothers, so there's likely a genetic influence or susceptibility, and it definitely causes a lot of difficulties due to our extreme sensitivity to what's often called or dubbed 'environmental noises' which can truly cause frustration, irritation and extreme anger in some sufferers. There's no real listing of these the DSM but they're definitely issues, and I think I'll ask Dr. Grande to analyse and discuss these.
Did Ted’s brother receive the 1 million dollar reward from the FBI, for turning him in?
I’m pretty sure he did and donated it to victims
@@rickavory Excellent way to throw suspicion off of him.
@@annewandering I’m not even saying that there isn’t some deep state shit going on. Im just saying the first person to be saying shit like that would be someone like John Mcaffee. A guy who hid in the sand for hours after the police showed up to his house when there was no warrant for arrest. This guy was addicted to and manufactured drugs.
@@annewandering Don't be Stupid. Oh, too late.
@@rickavory what are you talking about
It will never cease to amaze me how psychologists scramble to derive power by disecting people they've never met. Comfy in a warm room, classic example of psychoanalysis to secure their own ego
Dr Grande, could you please do an episode giving your take on the techniques used during the controversial MKULTRA , MKNAOMI, etc projects?
Damn this comment was ignored HARD. Seems like the doc isn't about to get THAT real.
That would be interesting 🤔🤔
That would be over the top interesting. Dr. Grande pleeeese do an episode.
@@consciousobserver629 Some are lazy about using search engines. I'm off to search MKNAOMI. I already am familiar with MKULTRA.
There may not be enough reliable information about it. Clandestine programs are . . . clandestine. But perhaps a video on the ethics of mental health professionals ever getting involved in these activities? There's plenty of solid information there!
This was so amazing cuz I just watched this on Netflix. Dr. Grande can you do an analysis of a career politician. We have all heard that they are narcissists or power hungry sociopaths. I always thought there was some truth to that. Or maybe the psychological profile of anyone seeking a position of power such as a CEO or a police officer.
Surprised you did not give the more emphasis "Ted Kaczynski, better known as the Unabomber, was once part of a Harvard experiment on psychological control subsidized by the CIA and known in turn as MK Ultra. Some say he has one of the most brilliant minds." His brother David, who turned him in has always maintained that these tests harmed a very sensitive Ted who might not have acted out if he had never been subjected to this.
This bothers me too, how professionals deny that psychological experiments of that severity can really harm a person, and childhood separation too. Its like how they rarely describe the effects of extreme childhood abuse or severely punitive practices in confinement on a criminal's behaviour.
@@AntimatterBeam8954you can't create a monster and then be surprised if it does monster stuff...
@@Relayzy1 yep definitely
I feel like you missed the whole thing about his LSD tests at Harvard
And how is that relevant to the question of his personality?
@@maxkho00 He was a victim of a research project --via deception --which some theorize caused him to devolve into the unabomber.
@@maxkho00 How could being a victim of MK Ultra possibly affect someone's personality, right?
@A C u do know when he was if fifth grade he had a IQ of 167 that is why Harvard thought he was gonna be the next great mind and this is where he created this idea that AI artificial intelligence would take over
So he didn't want AI to happen.
He was so articulate and logical in its presentation of why technology was controlling all of us, that it is really hard for me to see there the signs of a delusion.
Let me help you out here; he blew up complete strangers 😉.
@@b.g.5869 So what? If we find out Isaac Newton was a serial killer does he become wrong?
@@fifiadan It would make him morally wrong obviously. But this is irrelevant to my response. The person I was replying to said they didn't see his Kaczynski was delusional so I reminded him that he sent bombs to people.
You're horribly confused.
@@fifiadan Yes, obviously it would mean he was morally wrong.
Are you on a lead paint chip diet or something?
I get the impression you just learned about the genetic fallacy, don't understand it, but are eager to refer to it.
The genetic fallacy of course has nothing to do with genetics in the sense of DNA etc (this is important to point out when talking to a dunce like you because otherwise the next thing you'd be saying is "What does this have to do with genes?!" etc).
The genetic fallacy occurs when one tries to say a claim is wrong because they're a bad person. The canonical example is that Hitler was a bad person, and vegetarian, therefore vegetarianism is bad; obviously this reasoning doesn't hold water.
Obviously, if Isaac Newton was a serial killer it wouldn't mean his ideas about mathematics and physics were wrong; it would however mean he was morally wrong (i.e. a horrible person).
Kaczynski is objectively a horrible person (morally wrong). This in and of itself doesn't mean his theories about the effect of technology in society are necessarily wrong; it doesn't mean they're correct either of course.
However, this case is different from Hitler and vegetarianism because in the case of Kaczynski his ideas about technology and society directly inspired his homicidal behavior. Therefore while his evil deeds have no bearing on the validity or lack thereof of his rambling screed evaluated in isolation.
However, since his homicidal deeds were directly inspired by his views on technology and society, the latter cannot be completely divorced from the latter. Obviously there's something fundamentally wrong with his world view if he thinks the supposed evils of technology justify killing strangers who have any connection to STEM fields.
You need to understand an idea before you try to apply it.
You're horribly confused.
@@b.g.5869let me help you out here; he got his warning published in the New York Times and Washington Post and here you are talking about him and his ideas 40 years later. You may not agree with his methods, I don’t, but it’s indisputable they worked and there’s nothing delusional about that.
I went to UC Berkeley. My freshman year, a student in one of my classes, who had clearly been struggling with reality for a while, killed himself by jumping off the building where TK supposedly had an office. The building had a lot of weird rumors about it. This kid thought that he would turn into a dragon before hitting the ground. He did not turn into a dragon. TK was part of his choice to use that building.
Let's not forget the fact that he was an unwilling participant in the Harvard LSD study under Timothy Leary
Was he an "emancipated minor" and therefore could sign off on the paperwork??? Unwilling??? please explain?
Trey Woodward It wasn’t Timothy Leary, it was Henry Murray. Stop spreading misinformation.
LSD don't make you go crazy bro
@@waltersobchak7275 LSD is hallucinogen. A classic psychosis.
Walter Sobchak It can, easily. Which is why you should always have a babysitter standing by, in case you need to be talked down from a bad trip.
I was hoping you would include how he had a rash at 9 months and hospitalized. His mother said he changed then, he stopped smiling and didn't keep eye contact.
Exactly. This event was MAJOR for Ted. ...and anyone who has taken psych 101 will understand why.
Hope it was not a reaction to a vaccine ?
@@kathyshouffler2632 You just know it was. His was the first generation to start getting them at scale.
Never mess with a man that tells you "I just want to be left alone".
Another case I've followed for years. Thank you Dr. G. I found your comments to be very interresting.
This was fascinating and informative. Thank you, Doctor. 🤗
Thanks so much for doing such interesting topics Doc! Always enjoy and learn from your analysis. Be safe and happy :)
I love your content, and your pragmatic approach to cases... It doesn't hurt that my puppy loves to fall asleep to your videos 🤣
Thank you for responding. Your responses interesting often.
Your perspectives appreciated great work stay safe
I am fascinated by Ted. He makes a lot of valid and thoughtful points in his manifesto.
"You should read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution!
@@davidochieng9296 I will order those, I had no idea he had published anything. Thank you.
It’s a shame that such a bright man would disrespect his gifts by using them to blow people up.
They said the same thing about Robert Oppenheimer.
@@damonthomas8955 The issue is exactly that they don't say the same things about Robert Oppenheimer...
That is- his cause was justified, while the UNAbomber's wasn't. If you ask me tho, neither are justified...
@suny123boy1 legality is just something written on a piece of paper, it's not an absolute, something can be legal in one place and illegal a mile away in another jurisdiction. Justification, likewise, exists purely in the mind of the beholder. Who is to say whether the use of force is more or less justified when used by an individual or an institution?
Yay! you did it! Thanks, Dr. Grande!
Ted wasnt "criminal", he was trying to warn us about dangers of tech.
Now, people are fatter than ever, lonlier, less healthy, suicides are on the constant rise, antidepressants usage is on the rise, natality is becoming lower and lower, and my greatest fear, AI could end us all. I truly fears that we passed point of no return.
Killing people is criminal.
You should read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution!
@@baizawai The lie of the social contracts get you ninehundred thousand million timesfold more likely to get ræped by the system than an entirely unique human. Have fun, i love getting cancer and mental diseases and being gaslighted too!
@@baizawai no
it's true, his message ressonates so well today, yet he was called scizhophrenic for thinking that way, even though we now know he was probably right all along
You know my dear Americans, living in the states for almost 30 years I understand now all those people like Koczinski, you are yourselves who are pushing people to the brink. Im the one who have been pushed to the edge myself. Blame yourself, not anyone else.
This one I found fascinating. I like to see what in his background may have caused him to be like this. I watched the Netflix Unabomber in his own words series it explained a lot. Now I understand more because of your video. It amazes me how you can really quickly describe what’s going on!
The social milieu in the late 60's and 70's, especially in academia, was really cold. Add to that the draft and the pressure on men in that social class to be superstars or nobody, led to some very strained circumstances in their lives, along with very little support for those who had engendered any kind of special recognition. The term "triple threat" comes to mind, which is a recipe for bullying and social ostracization. Given that, and the fact that he would most definitely be very left brain dominant, it was not a surprise to me that he eventually reacted violently and in an anti-social way toward a society that was basically dysfunctional when it came to handling "talent". Many others simply commit suicide.
"You should read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution!
Dr Grande, great video as usual-- very insightful. Could you take a look at the mental health characteristics of the tv/ film character Mr. Bean?
I concur.
I've been waiting patiently for two years now.
You kinda glossed over the the part about the "psychological experiments" were a part of MK Ultra. To me thats a pretty big deal.
From his own mouth he claimed that majority were mainly surveys so, at least in his case, it doesn’t sound super drastic, and still doesn’t explain or excuse becoming a terrorist
Ted Kaczynski was placed in a special dorm at Harvard for younger students. He was part of an intense psychological study. Such an experience, combined with a troubled childhood may have exacerbated his mental illness
Completely, psychological torture / abuse can completely destroy people, like how some torture methods cause a full psychotic break.
Being from Chicago this case is super interesting, although you never cover boring cases!
"You should read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution!
He was ahead of his time. Today we're all tracked by technology.
5:20 His manuscript was published by Penthouse, which he felt was low brow, so he said hed mail out one last bomb.
The manifesto was published in The Washington Post. The last bomb was a threat in order to make it so they wouldn't publish it in Penthouse.
From wikipedia:
"There was controversy as to whether the essay should be published, but Attorney General Janet Reno and FBI Director Louis Freeh recommended its publication out of concern for public safety and in hope that a reader could identify the author. Bob Guccione of Penthouse volunteered to publish it, but Kaczynski replied that Penthouse was less "respectable" than the other publications. He said that he would "reserve the right to plant one (and only one) bomb intended to kill, after our manuscript has been published".[69] The Washington Post published the essay on September 19, 1995.[70][71]"
It's interesting when you watch these videos and can actually spot various characteristics in these people that mirrors your own. It's can help you understand what's happening with your own personality.
Have you read his manifesto? It is scary how accurate he is.
Honestly what is IQ? I have below average IQ, aphasia, autism, etc. My SAT score from the 90s was 1446/1600. Getting a high SAT score is really about learning things by rote. I am good at that. Memorizing all multiplication for numbers 0-100 was one thing I did to score so well. I read countless past tests to rote remember word associations. My HS score was 1.8 gpa. I do much better away from people.
Kaczynski has written two books from prison, they're excellent: Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution
Ted pretty much predicted "now" -
All these years later, I continue to be fascinated by the Unabomber case-but not for the reasons you might expect. No doubt about it, Ted was seriously mentally disturbed. But the interesting thing is how many people find his ideas worth promoting. Nothing of what he says is actually original. The origins of his ideas go back through all of history, and are broadly believed, as is evident from many of the comments for this video.
There really isn't anything new under the sun. This doesn't make the manifesto less accurate in different ways.
Are any ideas original? They aren't. The thing that is original is pulling various facts together.
It doesn't have to be original to be insightful. Please name an intellectual with "original ideas" that they conjured up without any overlap with other thinkers. We place too much emphasis on "originality". What he says in the manifesto is a no bullshit insight into what was to come - it's frighteningly accurate and it condemns us.
@@ontologicalpotato Someone else with nonsense to waste my time. Nowhere did I ever say you have to be original to be insightful. IJust saying that, if you want anyone to pay attention, to need to contribute something new, even if it's just sayign the same thing in a better way. Unabomber doesn't do that at all. I don't know of anyone who thinks he has any talent as a creative writer. He did have some proficiency in making small explosive devices. I'll give him that. OTOH he really blew it in keeping hidden.
And contrary to what you say, over 90% of his claims ARE bullshit, as time will show.
@@ronaldgarrison5528- Lol what? Kaczynski got plenty of people to pay attention. More so than the likes of Jacques Ellul, Neil Postman or other thinkers of a similar ilk. Even if his ideas weren't original, he was able to thrust his ideas into the mainstream through his actions.
imagine being snitched on by your own family. never rebuilding that trust
Kaczynski has written two books from prison, they're excellent: Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution .
Extremely complicated, but fascinating. The World is a better place with him locked up, to say the least. This video of yours is a true “Keeper” Dr.G.
5:10 "Who can you trust?" I laughed far harder than Dr. Grande probably intended
I heard he was once in a cell next to the 1995 Oklahoma City bomber, they must of had some interesting chats. Those talks would be material for a Dr. Grande analysis.
Exactly my thoughts, although there's much more irrationality and cult-thinking in Oklahoma City bombing case. If I remember correctly those two guys blew up the FBI shortly after the police killed a group of sect members, as a kind of retribution.
Ray Ross Timothy mcveigh?
Svetozar yes, in retaliation to what happened at Waco (David Koresh, cult leader)
7:21 Ted's MKULTRA participation (which you conveniently failed to name) consisted of much more than verbal abuse for 200 hours.
Karl Rabe lie
Instead of throwing words at eachother, can you provide links with somewhat reputable sources of your claims?
@@musFuzZ Read The Atlantic article. Murray worked for the OSS, which became the CIA. The research he later did with Kaczynski and the others at Harvard had a similar aim and design as MK ULTRA projects created to study brainwashing. Start there.
@@boatguy3800 It is not unfounded speculation, and records were classified, sealed, or destroyed. In 1977, the Harvard Crimson reported as follows:
"The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) informed University officials this week that Harvard "was involved in one way or another" in two research projects conducted under the agency's MK-ULTRA human behavior control project, Daniel Steiner '54, general counsel to the University, said yesterday.
Steiner said the University received substantial financial records from the CIA outlining Harvard's involvement in the controversial mind-control program. He refused to release any details about the documents yesterday, but said the two research projects in question did not include any drug experimentation.
The CIA secretly operated the MK-ULTRA research project for 12 years beginning in the 1950s to study the effects of alcohol and various narcotics on witting and unwitting human subjects at a number of American universities and colleges.
The New York Times reported last month that the CIA had sponsored a separate series of hallucinogenic drug experiments conducted during the 1950s at a Harvard-affiliated teaching hospital. The tests studied the effects of LSD on students from Harvard and other Boston area universities."
It was easy to find, bro. I omit links, as YT usually shadows them (they make monitoring for TOS compliance too hard).
Your sense of humour cheers me up in these difficult times, Dr. Grande - 'if you can't trust the Unabomber, who can you trust?'
The topic of projective drawing is really intriguing!!
this channel is absolutely fascinating.