Casey Anthony Murder Case | Mental State & Personality | Guilty or Not?
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- This video answers the question: Can I talk about the Casey Anthony murder? Casey Anthony was charged with killing her two-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony. This crime allegedly took place in 2008. I'll be taking a look at a lot of different factors in this case including potential mental health and personality factors, but just to be clear I'm not diagnosing Casey Anthony or anyone else involved in this case.
In 2008, Casey Anthony was 18 years old and Caylee Anthony her daughter was 2 years old. They lived with Casey's parents, Cindy and George Anthony. From an outside observer’s point of view, this case started on July 15, 2008, when Cindy Anthony called the police and reported that her granddaughter was missing for 31 days.
The next day charges of making a false statement to law enforcement were filed against Casey as she lied during the investigation.
in October of 2015, she would be charged with first-degree murder, aggravated child abuse, and aggravated manslaughter of a child. In December, in a wooded area near their house, Caylee's body was discovered. The trial which started in 2011. There were really two theories of the crime that kind of emerged. On the state side their theory was that Casey bought chloroform used it on Caylee and then suffocated her and on the defense side they said that it was an accidental drowning. The prosecution rested on June 15, 2011 and 15 days later the defense rested. The jury found that Casey Anthony was not guilty of any of the homicide or homicide related charges, but rather providing false information to a law enforcement officer. So she was convicted of four counts of lying to law enforcement and sentenced to one year per count, but when taking into account how long she'd already been in jail and the good behavior time she'd earned, she was released shortly after the verdict.
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When you don’t report your child missing, you’re either guilty of involvement, mentally ill or both.
Seriously
She should AT LEAST be charged of neglect
Yes ma'am that's right!
There is another TH-camr, the coffee girl, who discusses this really well. There really couldn't have been anyone else who had the opportunity to do such a thing.
@@personne-fp6cr she was charged with lying to police. But she'd already spent so much time in prison, they had to let her go.
She searched ' suffocation ' and ' fool proof suffocation ' on the day before police suspect she murdered her daughter. I don't think I've ever seen such an obvious case go wrong. Unbelievable.
They did not have this information at the time when the trial was happening! They've searched her internet explorer browser history and did not find any of this stuff. Later on it turned out she was using firefox browser from another account and searched for these words but it was too little too late! Now its not possible to bring this case back to court anymore.
Thank the media.
@Michael Evans It is also quite mishandled in the U.S. If a person's diary was legally obtained during a search, and relevant to the charges, it is fair game to use against a criminal defendant. However, typically only the relevant entries will be admissible as evidence. In the U.S. each state has its own rules of evidence and federal courts have the federal rules of evidence. And of course, first, you have to prove who wrote the diary, that’s a separate issue. This comment section is not enough to go through all of the key parts. The answer to whether a personal diary can be used in court as proof, which technically is called evidence, is it depends. In this case, the jury did not find direct connections between the diary's content and the charges.
It is florida, almost anything can and does happen there.
what are you??? a naeee sayer? she didnt search for these words at all, have you not listened to the case carefully here, thats the problem with this world its got to many people like you in it.
She is so obviously guilty that I can't believe the verdict.
Exactly
100% Same.
@JL Jones Spot on. I couldn't believe verdict. For me, I found her 100% culpable and guilty of first degree murder; if not that, then manslaughter.
The State failed to prove its case.
@@jamallabarge2665 The state proved it's case. The jury was inept...like most people here in Florida.
This video is wrong about her background history: She flunked outta school, didn’t tell her parents until graduation time, they covered for Casey and gave her a graduation party with family and lied. She covered up her pregnancy until 2 weeks before giving birth.
The is wrong on some of the case facts too. It was proven to be Caylee’s hair in the trunk and it was just speculated by defense that the searches were a software error and they searched when Cindy was clocked in at work, so it was for sure Casey. Also searched fool proof suffocation right around the time Caylee died but it wasn’t found until later.
Definitely a strange family. I think all that shows that George and Cindy never held Casey accountable for ANYTHING and wanted always to believe the best in their daughter. But look where it got them. A spoiled brat whose only concern is for herself . They raised a pure narcissist in every definition of the word.
Yes, sadly they did. She is a pure narcissist and probably a murderer as well. And not just any murderer. A child murderer. Her own child. But we will never know the truth of what happened to poor Caylee.
Yes, I remember this. She had a whole history of lies, and of her family leaning toward helping covering up her lies when they found out. They were overprotective even in that.
I find it hard to believe she isn't a pathological liar, even.
Damn, wouldn't it be difficult to hide a pregnancy that long? I believe parents have issues as well. They seem to cover for her no matter what the situation
Her defense attorney says "She was a loving mother." My reaction, how can you be a loving mother and not have a care in the world about your missing child?
she also was found naked in her attorneys office. He defended a murder, he didn't care because he was having sex with her. Disgusting.
Well, "was" was a good description and might have applied to the very few minutes of that sweet child's life when people came to see her when she was an infant.
The wrong child was missing. Who says we have to love our children equally or even at all? Those are just social norms, completely worthless in my eyes.
@@ilewtf2234 If you bring a life into this world, it is your responsibility to take care of them or to make sure they are with people who can take care of them. If you truly believe what you just wrote, please abstain from having children.
They are the most vulnerable members of our species. And countless studies show that children who are emotionally abused/neglected grow up with that trauma. Giving more love to only some of your children makes the others resent you. It creates jealousy between siblings. No child should grow up knowing that they are unloved/not loved as much as their siblings.
@@stefannydvorak7919 I already have two daughters and a couple of kids whose gender i dont know since i was out of the country a couple of months before their births. And i truly believe that i dont have to behave accordingly to any social norms that were formed centuries before my birth, and since i was born against my will nor did i sign anything about following laws and customs like a slave, i wont do so. Instead i do as i please.
I still believe she killed her child. I do not believe that she was sexually abused I believe she felt that her child was in the way.
Show your work.
A lot of people feel that their child is “in the way,“ they wind up being neglectful parents and not giving a shit which she seem to not be. There’s an entire community of people (the majority of Black people) that engage in that type of “parenting,“ Nobody says anything about it it’s just a given. She had choices, easy choices she could’ve just let the grandparents raise her and do whatever the hell she wants, she seems like that type, I’m the same way. She could have given the kid up for adoption, these were choices that would’ve left her less exposure. She’s definitely not stupid, she has a fairly high IQ, it’s pretty obvious, I think she would’ve known that her odds of getting away with something like that would be very small. She valued her freedom and probably would’ve done something more selfish like just do whatever the hell she wanted and let the grandparents watch the kid. Come to think of it I was kind of raised like that at a point and I didn’t even think about it. My mom was divorced and she was out dating or doing whatever the hell she was doing, We lived across the street from my grandparents for a while and I remember being there more than I remember being at the apartment across the street. Very hazy. I think I was only three though... i’m gonna say that her father was a real creep in all of this, he’s an ex cop and knows about these sort of things and seemed like he definitely was a bit of a Socio path. I don’t use that word lightly. It’s possible that he knew that he would be accused of sexual molestation and excepted it for the, “greater good,” of the situation in terms of finding her innocent. I feel like everyone in the house knows that something happened and maybe there’s an agreement of willful blindness and at least two people (Casey and her father) know precisely what happened because they were involved. Probably an accident but there are much more efficient ways to get rid of a body then 19 feet off the road right near your house. To me that seems more like 22-year-old girl thanking then retired cop thinking. Hmmmm Of course the reason she got off is exactly what we’re all talking about, nobody knows. We all have extremely reasonable doubt. You can’t (shouldn’t) convict somebody if nobody knows what the hell is going on and People have “more questions than answers,” as the defense pointed out to the jury, this was I believe very key in the closing arguments. He did a fantastic job “Instructing,” them on a moral, intellectual and legal reason to find her innocent. I also find her attractive, that’s besides the point but I figure I should say that, why not. She’s a crazy, smart, probably psychopathic, slutty sexy little thing. Who wouldn’t want to have sex with that, well maybe a lot of people, but I sure would.
she is a narcissist psycho, sure she plays her victim card every day..
She told Tony she had been abused by her father though.
@Debbie Smith Yep you are definitely cut from the same cloth as Casey Anthony.
24 minutes of professionally and politely saying "she did that shit"
I watched that trial and the state had a representative from Cindy Anthony’s employer come in and prove that Cindy was at her desk at work when those searches were done on the home computer. She was entering items on her work computer under her name at that time. I don’t think he knows anything. Sounds like he’s watched highlights.
Lp
Lol yep I still can't believe she got off
@@Aj-me8mo was that the reason, are you serious?? For killing a baby girl, you gotta be messed up in the head to let go someone like that for that stupid a reason.
@@Aj-me8mo plus even if someone thinks she's attractive..she is so damn stupid says the dumbest things ever and let's not even get into the lying, oh man 😆
In regards to her parents not reporting Caylee missing even though they lived with them. Casey and Cindy had a big blowout right before Caylee was last seen and Cindy was saying she was going to fight for custody of Caylee. Casey went to stay at her boyfriend's and kept coming up with excuses for her parents. Caylee was with the nanny, they went on a trip, etc. Though her parents didn't really believe it, they just thought Casey was trying to punish them for the fight by keeping Caylee away. So, they had finally nailed down Casey's location and Cindy forced Casey to admit she didn't have Caylee and Cindy finally called 911. Side note: Casey never reported her daughter missing, her mother did, and Casey didn't even want to talk to the 911 dispatcher.
Luck was on that bitches side.. God won’t be.
Caylee was getting all the attention Casey was used to getting, Casey didn't like not being the baby anymore.
Casey's parents created a monster. For crying out loud they threw her a graduation party to cover her dropping out.
Exactly. They carry a lot of the blame for how their daughter turned out.
Couldn't agree more
yep rewarding bad behaviour
it shows you a lot how they think - also they didn't want the ONE guy who was willing to adopt the baby, even though he knew she wasn't his own, out of her daughters life AND they covered up the pregancy, telling people Casey had just put on weight and water bc of the heat ... -.- tells you a LOT about the family.
Which is why i personally lean towards the coverup story
I can’t believe that she got away with killing her baby. It’s so tragic and sad.
Spot on. I couldn't believe verdict. For me, I found her 100% culpable and guilty of first degree murder; if not that, then manslaughter, such as she overdid that cloroform by accident.
Its INFURIATING! How do you find 12 people THAT completely blind?
in america over 50 million women murdered their babies before they were born by committing abortions and they don't get away with it - God will avenge those murders
she will not get away with it either
@@kablammy7 I am curious. So, what do you think God is gonna do about those abortions?
@@poelemic3642
You should read this quickly before it is automatically deleted by the satanic anti-truth anti-Christ - anti-God thought police computer algorithm
Free speech no longer exists in the USA - this is a first step towards communism . Now they have progressed to destroying the family because they hate God whom ordained Fathers, Mothers, and Male and Female Children .
Now to answer your question :
I know He will act consistent with His Word . He never changes .
proverbs 14
34
Righteousness exalts a nation,
but sin is a reproach to any people.
35
A servant who deals wisely has the king's favor,
but his wrath falls on one who acts shamefully.
Look around - the USA is going down the toilet - pagan chinese government ships in drugs and communist ideology with magnanimous influence in the highest levels of the USA governemnt - financial support is available for all manner of perversions combined with laws and higher educational institutions attacking traditional family values and construct .
There is only hell to pay for the USA and their satanic attraction and activities of evil .
He will have mercy on whomever He chooses and he will show His wrath against all others .
Displaying His attributes brings glory to Himself and His children perceive and experience His loving kindness; while the world ignorantly and defiantly pursue their own evil desires until the wrath of God is revealed upon them .
romans 9
10 And not only so, but also when Rebekah had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac, 11 though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad-in order that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls- 12 she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” 13 As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”
14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion,[b] but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.
19 You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory- 24 even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles? 25 As indeed he says in Hosea,
“Those who were not my people I will call ‘my people,’
and her who was not beloved I will call ‘beloved.’”
26
“And in the very place where it was said to them, ‘You are not my people,’
there they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’”
The lawyer is disgusting, but the father lets himself be accused of sexual abuse, the mom says she googled chloroform. Her parent are 50% responsible for her death, even though she (obviously) killed her. The gave her a graduation party even though she dropped out.. They never, ever punished her for bad behaviour, even after she killed her kid
You may wonder who taught her to lie.
Perhaps they didn’t want to see their daughter killed after losing Caley
This is a huge problem when parents stand by there kids bullshit, let them get away with anything. Children need to learn from the beginning that everything we do has consequences, she insults everybody's intelligence,
sickening.
Consider that growing up molested by her dad would make her mentally unable to parent and even murder a child. This is why I do believe she was abused by her Dad. Similarly, I have read that roughly 80% of men on death row were raped by a male relative or acquaintance before age 12. Childhood sexual abuse causes severe lifetime damage for children.
Emma Chase yes Emma that is absolutely true.
Her behavior while her daughter was missing is all the proof you need. I don't have children, but if my niece or nephew was missing our entire family would be extremely distraught and doing everything possible to find them; not going to parties and not reporting them missing. That poor child didn't get justice.
No, it's not "all the proof you need" and if you thought about that, I really hope you would know better than to say that. I would not want to live in a country in which that was "all the proof you need" and I doubt you would, either.
I'll be more distraught than Casey was(she wasn't that's the point) if my cat goes missing.
@@jn8ive60 what a nonsense.
@@AndreiSZS The correct way of typing that is "What nonsense". It is never correct to write, type, or say the article "a" before the word "nonsense". In addition, in English, the first words of sentences and stand alone phrases are capitalized. You are evidently not versed in proper English. I must conclude that this is indicative of your intelligence level. Therefore, I feel justified in dismissing your opinion on the Casey Anthony case as equally ignorant and uninformed.
@@jn8ive60 Nice investigation. But looking at my name you could easily guess, English is not my first language. But instead you came up with a sudo intellectual nonsense again. Nice display of high level of cognitive abilities.
I NEVER in my life heard of a baby missing and a parent not calling the police within minutes. This is the most bizarre case I have ever heard. All the evidence POINTS straight to that mother!!!
How many babies do you know personally that were missing?
Yeah Casey was so guilty they literally had to make a new law after her making it illegal to not report your child as missing. It carries prison time now. It never needed to be a law because literally no one had ever done that in that state before! Disgusting. I hope she has a miserable life.
@@WhitneyDahlin I hope your life will be filled with love!
Totally agree!
Don’t forget that Casey’s parents would protect her from almost anything. She is a pathological liar.
She did it.
True, but I think she needed protection FROM her parents who seem disturbingly dysfunctional.
Malignant narcissism. Most disgusting verdict ever! When the Mom trashed the prosecution’s “chloroform” search evidence, she undermined the case. There is no proof Casey was SA’d by her Dad.
Actually her father was not trying to cover for her and he got thrown under the bus because of it they accused him of being the murderer
@@jeffw8218 she's saying Casey tried to say her dad raped and molested her (which he didn't) just as attempt to win the case. She threw her own father under the bus just to save her own ass.
Everyone knows she did it. It means nothing obviously.
If Casey wanted to party, all she had to do was give her daughter over to her parents. They loved their grand-daughter more than Casey did.
This might be the craziest part. Crazy to me she thought she had to do this
Not that simple. Cindy wanted Casey to be a good mother. She wasn't about to let Casey off the hook that easy.
She resented the bond her Mom had with her child. She wasn't going to give Cindy the satisfaction of having her, therefore admitting she wanted a single life .
While working with Child Protective Services, I had seen many parents drug (whether alcohol, pills, etc) their children so they could go out to party. Casey may have done this on purpose or by accident, either way, she got off way too easy. I was shocked at the verdict and the thought of her getting away with murder still makes me sick to my stomach. I’m sure she’s doing fine now, she has no conscience and is a habitual liar. And the way her attorneys behaved after the not guilty verdict, jubilantly celebrating (the old guy gave the finger to reporters) only shows you this is a game to them. The whole thing was disgusting!!!
Her mother refused to keep Caley anymore and then her mother slapped her. I think that caused Casey to kill her daughter.
The prosecution produced overwhelming evidence in support of murder--a dead baby with it's mouth covered with duct tape in a few trash bags thrown into nearby woods and a mother who didn't report her missing and consistently lied to her friends, parents, and police. The defense produced a cooky theory about an accidental drowning and a loving mother throwing her child's body into the woods to allow it to decompose and let the animals eat it while she entered a Hot Body Contest at a bar to console herself in her grief.
This jury would have bought oceanfront property in Arizona from the defense attorney because they had to sit in that courtroom for months and he made it interesting. They didn't adjudicate on evidence. The facts just weren't as interesting as a far out narrative. I wouldn't be surprised if all the jurors in the case haven't joined a cult at this point.
They must have been moronic
I was just going back looking at some old cases. That's so true! As excellent as Dr. Todd is, he left out some important things in his post-trial fact finding summary. The biggie being that um.. a DEAD BODY was confirmed to have been in the back of her car! All the specialists who testified to the smell, George!, then the cadaver dogs who are extremely accurate, and finally the defense specialist who later confirmed he wasn't allowed to speak on anything but the science of the trash. Had he been allowed to expand, 100% he would have confirmed he believed it was a dead body. I mean... case closed Casey.
Just watched Casey’s lawyer in court and I’m honestly not surprised she was acquitted. He put on a pretty strong argument :/
THANK YOU!!! IDK how this guy is actually saying that the prosecutors didn't have enough evidence. This is the first video I watched of him and I just can't watch anymore of his videos. He is so far removed for reality. Education doesn't always equate to intelligence.
The city/town they pulled people from for the jury (I think Clearwater FL?) is the Scientology capital of the world
The duct tape. The body dump. The tattoo. The diary entry. All of it suggests a mother pleased with her decision to rid herself of a commitment that she didn't want.
I think that her Parents were supporting her. At the very least they were babysitting Kaley. I think that they were expecting Casey to do more for Kaley. They were still married, as was and is the norm for many people. Casey never married her baby Daddy. To them this was probably a source of irritation.
I also think that Mr and Mrs Anthony intimated that they could take her kid. Maybe that they would take her kid, so that the little girl would be raised "responsibly". Casey was too busy partying and having a good ole time to be a real Mom as her parents saw it.
They probably made her parenting painful. They chipped in with supporting the baby. Maybe they could do a better job than she? Casey probably loved her daughter but also reckoned that if she couldn't have her than nobody could have her.
"If I can't have her, nobody is going to have her!" is a common motive. It's idiotic thinking. I would rather see someone in good hands than be dead. I've let girlfriends go for that reason. He was better for her than me. I did not like it but it was for the best. Wasn't like I was going to murder anyone but it made letting them go a lot easier.
People make Casey out as some Party girl who did her kid in like that loser who drowned her kids in her car.
I see Casey as trapped in a single Mom life. It's not easy. I see her parents playing games with her. I think that Casey had some times when she was out on the town or did not take "proper" care of Kaley. I think that her parents pushed her to do something different - give them custody.
Casey handled those games very very badly. I think Casey killed little Kaley. "If I cannot have her than nobody can have her".
@@jamallabarge2665 I think even a bad mother would suicide first than kill her own child.
@@arianaraquel1958 Depends upon the kids. If they are special needs kids than I wonder. I've had friends who were quite worried that their special needs kids would outlive them.
Tattoo?
No mom acts like she did when their daughter has gone missing/found dead. She is very similar to Chris Watts in response.
At least Chris Watts tried to fake concern. Casey? Not even that.
@@iulia.bianca.b Right? Zero concern at all . We know why. She already knew that child was dead that's why. She makes me sick. Sometimes I hate the double jeopardy law.
@Midnight Smith She acted far from normal. Partying while her child was
'missing ' , not reporting her missing for the 30 days, lying to police, lying to her parents, brother and friends. That's the actions of a person that isn't concerned because she knew her baby was dead.
She's a disgusting human.
@Rumple Stillborn Oh he sure did. That was obvious in his television interview. He's another disgusting person
I too was thinking the same thought. Watts' apparent lack of concern on arriving home was incredibly suspicious. The police officer and the neighbours were obviously subconsciously clocking 'there's something pretty odd here'. I know I was.
Casey Anthony's age at the time of Caylee's death was 22. Casey was born in 1986.
Also, evidently Casey did not live with Cindy and George at that time, but rather spent a great deal of time at their house, which may explain why Cindy waited so long to notify the police.
Thank you to those who pointed out the errors!
Dr.Grande
Read the comments right below this one. That woman has it correctly her parents never new when she was going to be at their house to sleep she was always staying at friends and boyfriends houses she basically used her parents house as a mailing address
Dr. Grande I took the MMPI and the results came back as entirely "inconclusive." The psychiatrist was flabbergasted and in 30+ years of practice he had never seen that happen with the MMPI. The test was re-run and again found to be inconclusive. He spoke with the office in CA that processes the tests and he received some info as to why the results could be inconclusive. Basically I scored extremely high in honesty and consistency in my responses but yet there were no other patterns to be found anywhere. So apparently they seek specific patterns and I was all over the place in my answers but still considered extremely honest and consistent. The psychiatrist accused me of randomly filling out the test and not taking it seriously and that wasn't the case at all. I took it very seriously and answered each question very honestly. So have you ever heard of this happening with the MMPI and what does this mean about my psychology?
Jess C. You obviously can be truly and honest within your own spectrum
which will probably differ from the others.
You believe deeply in your own lies and self-suggestion to the point of making them real to others.
Surely the doctors was right and you didn’t answer the questions of compliance with the required standards but according to your own standards.
You probably have no control over your own lies and inability to live in consistency with reality.
You can look in the mirror and not have the slightest idea of what you are seeing.
@@aplemat How did you come to know so much about this test and its' results to spell out all of that? Elsewhere you said it was easy for a smart person to learn how to "pass" it, or something like that.
Dr. Todd Grande do you have any thoughts on Jodi Arias’ personality diagnosis? Sociopath? I don’t believe she was abused by Travis Alexander, rather she maligned his character after she killed him bc she was incensed that he ended their “relationship” and called her out on her serious personality flaws.
The circumstantial evidence was overwhelming in this case. Others have been convicted for less. Very sad
If she was a man or a minority- I feel pretty confident she wouldn’t be free today.
Well, she's a white woman in the south.
@@kateashby3066 I have to agree with that, especially if she was a black female from the ghetto, she would never have been found not guilty if she behaved like Casey Anthony did and lied like Casey Anthony did!
@@tinaconde1491 Orlando FL isn't the south.
You are absolutely right! People are in prison for a lot less evidence. God will be her judge one day
2008: Her Two year old daughter goes “missing”, Casey calls the Police 31 days later
2021: A glass of water thrown at Her, Casey calls the Police immediately
13 years later we learn what constitutes an emergency worth immediate Police attention for Casey.
Casey wasn’t even the one that called the police for her missing daughter, her mom called 911...so that’s even worse.
Technically she didn't even report her daughter missing, her mother did.
Exactly, how are the so called "friends" also, dogs filthy dogs....
Casey didn't call the cops, CINDY, her mom did, and it took her 31 days, bc she was not living with her at the time and Casey told everyone and her mother that she was with Zany the nanny.
What's even worse is that if it wasn't for the grandma I can bet that she wouldn't have called 911. She was hoping Casey would never be found so all of the evidence could decompose.
The fact that she didn’t report her missing after 31 days is all the evidence you need
RIGHT?!!!
JK ... So, spot on. I got worried with my dog missing for one hour. Let alone your own young daughter. Bitch did it and got away with it.
@@poelemic3642 We don't even know how Caylee died, all we do know is that the 3 people who she was living with didn't report her missing for 31 days.
True dat sister true dat
@@crochunter35 What about Cindy saying in court under oath that she was the one who did the chloroform search on the computer
I watched the trial and fell off my chair when she was found innocent....very haunting case😫
@N Silva ummm that's the point... to say it. It's an expression. A figure of speech, not usually intended to be taken literally. They could have said were floored. Like they fell out of their chair.
It would be more useful then, make an emoji of a chair collapsing than to literally make a chair collapse. XD
N Silva That’s hilarious 👏 👏 👏
It, like the O.J. case, is a perfect example of the failure of our jury system. I do not believe for one second that Casey was smart enough to come up with the detailed lies that formed the defense case. (José Baez has that to his discredit.)
conscience whisperer...it was infuriating, the prosecution was inept and unprepared, thats why she got off.
Made me SICK
The parents didn’t wait 31 days to call police. They called police the first day they discovered she was missing. There was a lot of testimony during the trial where the mom tried to see or even talk to Caylee the entire time but Casey had one excuse or another. The parents were told by Casey that she and Caylee were with friends enjoying theme parks and traveling.
She killed her daughter. She killed her daughter. She killed her daughter. End of story. The mere fact that she didn't report her daughter missing for a month, and there was in fact no nanny...done. Case closed. No mother who honestly has no clue what happened to her baby just goes about her life for a month. Never ever ever ever in the history of the world does that happen. Never. As a jurist, that is all I would have ever needed to hear.
There are as many people running around who are ad evil as the perpetrator under scrutiny.
The whole situation was an outrageous travesty of justice. Horrific beyond belief.
Mara L Really? If you’re gullible enough to buy that BS, I have a bridge in London I’d love to sell you
@Mara L my lord...you are an idiot! Let me guess. You are a liberal
Yeah well you weren’t on the jury. Spoken like a true liberal know it all keep your fat fucking mouth shut.
She gets away with everything. Her smirk when she was found “not guilty” was like: I got away with it. Also which mother rolls her eyes and say “suprise suprise” when you’re being told your 3 Year old daughter was found dead in the woods???
number one oxygen thief.
karma will seek her out! 😉✌🏻🇦🇺
Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The state failed to make a case.
That verdict made me sick. It is obvious she was guilty. What kind of
decent loving mother would do her own investigation for her missing daughter? 100% guilty. And not to forget the jury. What a bunch of idiots. Hard to believe these people found her not guilty. One of the biggest travesty of justice I have heard of.
@@catherinedunand302 That is not how it works. The State has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Did she do it? I believe so and probably so did the jury but in order to render a guilty verdict, it's not what you believe. It has to be proven! Partying while your daughter is missing is not proof.
@@rmkilc yeah there was a lot wrong here. not just with the anthonys either. unfortunate there wasnt any "justice" left for Caylee.
I lost my son (7 years old) in K Mart for 15 minutes he was actually hiding from me under a clothes stand and told I went past him five times. K Mart were very good had an excellent drill, for these problems, I turned around and there he was, it was the longest 15 minutes of my life.
I've never met a blase parent when their kid is missing. I've helped parents find their kids. Their gratitude was often tearful, over the top.
I know what you mean it’s thise moments are the worst ever the fact she didn’t do anything shows so much
Yes, but the only difference is that you did not wanted to get rid of your child rather find it
My sons did that to me, and the fear and my heart sinking was awful. It’s the worst feeling of dread.
Adam Walsh did disappear from a Kmart store which ultimately brought about America's Most Wanted. I imagine Kmart has a whole training program to prevent that type of media exposure again. I'm glad you were able to find your son.
you sir are correct! I might add, Casey didnt know who Caley,"s real dad was. Also., Casey hated her mom and resented the fact that her mom forced her to have the baby, then took over Caley's care and had Caley call her mom instead of grandma. Casey was jealous of Caley because mom showed her more affection. She wanted to hurt her mom by taking Caley away forever. Her mom also threatened to call dcf on Casey to have Caley taken away! Casey was daddys little girl before Caley was born, then he showed more affection to the baby than to Casey, so more jealousy, more motive, as she never wanted a baby! This is interpreted from statements from friends and from her brother.
Exactly !
Caylee
She had tape over her mouth and nose, how does that happen if it was an "accidental drowning"? That's what gets me, all other evidence aside, she had tape over her mouth and nose!
People tend to omit the entirety of the defense's case. They said that it was an accidental drowning and the reasoning for the duct tape and not calling the cops for a month was bc they were embarrassed that she had drowned and tried to frame it as if she were kidnapped and killed.
+Jo Walkabout: Jo, this is pretty gross, but you asked. My take is that Caylee was killed, and for a while....put into the trunk of Casey's car. Eventually, she began to emit the smell of death, so the trunk was opened, and her little body was likely re-wrapped / re-bagged. Fluid would be coming out of her mouth and nose...as well as maggots. (sorry). She/They taped the little girl's nose and mouth to contain this from continuing to occur....until she/they could find a safe disposal area for little Caylee. I think there is something very wrong with that entire family......something definitely "ain't right" with them.
@@diablocell I know that's the defense's story, but seriously, who in the F does not call 911 when you pull a drowned baby out of a swimming pool?! For all they knew, she might have survived. That mammalian reflex is strong in children. Nothing in this case makes a bit of sense, and I think that whole family is messed up.
Dead bodies don't scream. Why would anybody put duct tape over the mouth of a dead body?
@@diablocell that sounds like Jonbenet Ramsey case.... in fact, they also placed duct tape over her mouth...and they placed a kiddie blanket on the body...and it was a fake kidnapping...wow...
At 19 years old, Casey Anthony never wanted a child in the first place. She wanted to have an abortion but her mother talked her out of it. I believe she killed her daughter and became euphoric from the freedom of the unwanted responsibility.
Makes sense
Makes sense but they didn't know she was pregnant until she was something like 7 months along.
I think her reckless parenting killed Kaley, gave her that drug to sleep, and she never woke up. Casey stopped caring
@@joshuaearp9494 Casey wanted to put her up for adoption but her mother refused, forbid it. She thought Casey would mature into a mother after giving birth..ha! When you don't want a child, don't bond with it, there is no way you're ever going to care for that child. Then of course the other factors in play was that her mother saw Kaylee as another opportunity to do better and have another mother/daughter relationship since her own failed one with Casey. Casey was never going to turn out decent due to family dynamics. Her father DID NOT abuse her, but her parents relationship was very problematic and her mom never disciplined her growing up so that just fueled her narcissistic personality. The last thing Casey ever needs ever is a child or a pet!!
K Farr I agree grandma is not helping along the way. If you can’t straighten your kid when she is young, just give up. A lot of disasters come from tough love when your child is a grown-up. If a grownup wants to ruin her life, there is really nothing you can do.
Cindy tried to protect Casey by saying it was her who googled "chloroform", but obviously this computer search happened to a specific time at which Cindy was at work.
While Casey did pretty well at school she dropped out of high school without telling their parents. She left the house every morning and went to the mall. That's kind of when her career as a professional liar and con artist began, and her parents apparently went along and even attended her "graduation" making up excuses why their daughter wasn't actually called to get her diploma. Weird much?
I'm troubled about the result of the psychological evaluations. There's no way she can be "normal"?! She can be very convincing, however. Do you think she played both experts?
I like that you didn't chicken out of publicly saying she did it. I tend to like the manslaughter scenario. She drugged Caylee so she'd sleep through Casey's nights out. One night she overdosed and panicked. Her whole life she had gotten away with bullshitting her way out of trouble - why not this time?
Thanks for your videos, I like to listen to how you approach these questions.
She should have just called the police. If she is that lucky, then maybe she still would have gotten off.
Joan Lynch well she got away with it anyways :/ and she would have been charged with child abuse if they found drugs in Caylee’s system.
Tamara Gerber so I am positive she is borderline personality disorder, histrionic type at very LEAST. And unless an evaluator sees evidence of it during the brief time they are involved with her, it’s not going to be diagnosed because any smart borderline or sociopath can fake normal in a contrived clinical situation. We know that doesn’t occur from an organic issue in the brain or biochemistry or genetics, but as a result of a systematically & dysfunctional and traumatic environment. I think she’s an only child (?) so the parents could direct all the dysfunction onto her from birth. They certainly are not going to give ANY negative history when asked! Also, Casey is smart and every smart borderline seems WONDERFUL at first but as you observe over time....watch out! And in an outpatient clinical setting you may never get a glimpse of the behaviors, reactions etc that are troubling. I’ve been clinical but with access to residential or actually working right in the residence. Lately, it’s with adults in rehabs, detoxes & halfway houses. I can say without a shadow of doubt that meeting someone like Casey Anthony for a couple one on one sessions, there is no way to observe her “natural” behaviors, reactions and belief systems. She’s smart. She knows what’s distorted in her thinking and even tho she thinks SHE’S RIGHT she also knows what answers are expected from her. So ultimately this is all moot I just realized because diagnosing a mental disorder would not have helped convict her. It would aid the defense. Who clearly did the impossible without it! And had she been found to have any form of sociopathy like a personality d/o it would’ve been moot because she still knows right and wrong! A sociopath just doesn’t care. We’d be blaming the finding of not guilty of any murder charge on the mental disorder had she been determined to have one, instead of being shocked and dumbstruck at what many feel is a miscarriage of justice.
Cindy had Caylee for one week straight while she was on vacation. Casey was free as a bird. The day Cindy went back to work is the day Caylee died. June 16th. That same day she did a search on her computer - FULL PROOF SUFFOCATION - during the hours while both Cindy and George were at work. It was deleted from FireFox. That's been proven . So she did it!
@@Lora_M_NY 100%
She was not “a good student.”
“...Casey’s parents didn’t even really know that much about her, because she wouldn’t tell them anything. In fact, when it came time for her to graduate high school, her parents kept asking her when graduation was, but Casey wouldn’t tell them. Her parents ended up having to call the school, only to find out that she wouldn’t be able to graduate due to how many classes she was failing. Her parents never knew her grades were so bad, because again, Casey refused to tell them anything. The worst part? Casey allowed her parents to throw her a graduation party before they knew she wouldn’t even be graduating. So, Casey Anthony ended up dropping out of high school to get a job at the Hard Rock Cafe...”
My husband went to pick my daughter up from a friends house once and my heart went racing when he said he couldn’t find her. That was all of one minute. 31 days? Not hearing any other bit of the mountain of evidence and just hearing not reporting your child for 31 days is enough for me.
The parents/grandparents neglected reporting their child and grandchild missing for 31 days as well 🤔
@@eugeneenslow8563 She had moved in with her boyfriend in another town and told them she got a job there. The grandmother was begging to have her put the little girl on the phone and Casey claimed to be too busy to put her on. Dr Grande got this detail wrong.
@@lynnsaoirse6104 thanks for sharing
O could be at the park with my kids. Say i get a text ot whatever. Look down... Look up if i dont see my kids instantly i panic.
@@lynnsaoirse6104 Exactly, she made excuses everytime she called and asked to speak to Caylee. "Oh she's asleep, oh she's with the nanny," etc etc. Plus the grandparent went all the way down there demanding answers and was the one to report her missing.
I honestly don't get why people comment things like that when they haven't researched the case, but I digress.
My ex was an extremely violent man. He was sent to anger management where he proceeded to fool them so completely that they held him up as an example to the others.
He also fooled a therapist I insisted he see.
He would laugh about this and taunt me when he beat me.
Narcissists can be ever so charming and convincing.
Wow
@@marypliska4070 🌷yep.
*Impressed with your keen observation and ability to think clearly.* Borderlines are very good at everything your ex did.
(I have a borderline parent who fooled so many people it exasperated my tortured upbringing. My other parent was an alcoholic, sobered up after turning 70.)
My fav book on coping with narcissists: *The One-Way Relationship Workbook* (not that you need it!). It's a thin book but very meaningful.
You are absolutely correct. There are many master manipulators in this world. Even the smartest of us have been fooled by them.
it is terrifying what people can be capable of. i hope you are in a much better place now. i’m sending you love, healing is a long process but it is so liberating. take care
My husband *"lost"* our toddler in the mall once. She was gone for all of 7 minutes before we found her at the Customer Service Desk.
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*Those 7 minutes were the longest 7 minutes of my life.*
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The protective instinct, the fear and utter panic surrounding finding my daughter was off the scale.
I would *literally* have killed to find her safe and sound.
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No mother can go *31 DAYS* partying, drinking, having sex and getting a tattoo *unless* she knows where her daughter is.
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I believe that Casey Anthony *KNEW* that her daughter was dead and where her body was because *she* was the one that had killed her.
It's the only logical explanation.
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*Casey Anthony is EVIL and she deserved the DEATH PENALTY for what she did to that poor baby.* 🤬
I lost track of my oldest nephew in a mall when he was about 2. His mom was trying on clothes and had left him in my care. Little stinker was hiding inside clothes racks and giggling about me looking for him. But I've never been so scared in my life.
My brother when he was about 9 went outside from the neighbor house where he was playing with his friends.
I just couldn't believe when the neighbors told us that "he was not there". I went running on the streets and looking for him and at cars and all the way I was mumbling "this is not happening, this is not true" again and again.
My father found him sitting at a bar 20 meters from our home.
I have never felt so helpless and desperate in my life.
Happened to my husband and me, too. Horrifying! Son was in the shoe department looking at Bart Simpson house shoes. (He didn’t get them.)
Searia Kett - well you certainly seem capable of killing. If you get locked up you won’t have your daughter to look after. Try to calm down. You don’t know the grandmother.
@@Gurubashy I lost sight of my daughter in a crowd at school when she was 6 for all of about maybe 3 to 4 min. I was panic stricken and blinded by instinct to find her. Ill never forget that horrible feeling of fight versus flight..heart racing fear.
After all these years, what still stands out, there was no justice for poor little Caylee. 💔
You mentioned she didn’t show history in her earlier years but it was said she was a habitual liar, even lying about her graduating high school.
OKAY 👍
She lied about attendance for what I think was a whole year so she could be with her older boyfriend, and claimed the school gave her the wrong schedule. Dr. Grande was incorrect in saying that she was a good student and that was inconsistent with lying/murder.
she hid her pregnancy until she couldn't any longer. No one ever knew who the father was, not even Cindy. She lied to one of the boyfriends saying he was the father when he wasn't. She had some deep seated issues to say the least.
So?
apparently they even lied to relatives when asked about her pregnancy. they were in denial telling relatives she was still a virgin.
I’ll never forget this case. I was at the nail salon and they had the trial on - when they stated “not guilty”, all of us in the salon screamed. I still can’t believe it to this day.
I was in the bathroom trying to do number two! I couldn’t after I heard from the living room and to this day still can’t do number two 🤣
Same I remember this day so vividly. We cried and were in shock. Unbelievably sad
Casey Anthony is the female version of OJ Simpson. It would not surprise me if Casey started dating OJ.
She did it. But if you watch the trial and read the books you will see how bad the state did and why she was found not guilty
@@michaellovely6601 - She's a million times worse than OJ....PERIOD!!! 🙄
My first grade daughter got off the bus at the wrong bus stop & became lost in our neighborhood. I went full on panic mode when she didn’t get off in front of our house. She was lost about 30 looong minutes before I found her. I can’t imagine going any longer without calling the police. Casey was guilty....not a doubt in my mind. So sad. The grandparents loved that little girl .
@Lisa Keefe We never stop worrying do we? Take care
I am bowled over by your mommy skills but that anecdote has nothing to with whether or not Anthony is guilty. I hate when people who are completely untrained and uneducated in psychology make judgements about how others act during and after traumatic occurrences. I will go ahead and add---I know of a case in which the accused was absolutely innocent and the DA made judgements about how the accused was acting during the first month after the allegation. The accused was not acting sad and upset enough about the situation for the DA. The accused posted a picture of herself on social media smiling. I was told by the accused that she was in shock, the situation didn't seem real, it seemed like a novel she was reading, like it was happening to someone else during that early time. A few months later, it hit her full force. And I know that's very similar to how my brain reacted when my husband unexpectedly died at a young age. So I've had just about enough of "Anthony didn't act sad or worried or panicked, at least not that we can see, she danced and smiled, she must be guilty." I don't know whether she's guilty or not, and I don't know, if she is guilty, exactly WHAT she's guilty of, but her behavior proves nothing.
@@josephwhittaker442 No, in and of itself it does not prove she murdered her daughter. It could be a piece of evidence, which combined with much other evidence, proved she murdered her, but by itself it does not. The most you can say about it, by itself, is that it could prove she had something to hide, but what? That she killed her with malice aforethought? We don't know. That she killed her accidentally? We don't know. That she knows who killed her and is covering up for that person? We don't know. That she was negligent in leaving her daughter for too long with the person who then killed her? We don't know. Or she had nothing to do with it but has a mental illness which led her to act inappropriately afterward and then concoct lies? We don't know.
My daughter didn't get off on her spot I called the bus company and had 3 people at that stop waiting for her while I was on my way. She wouldn't get off the bus for strangers. I had my friends hold the bus till I got her. Yeah she got off on so many charges. This should have been cut and dry. I blame the judge and prosecutor.
@@cheriszymanski2752 *Sigh*. Blame them for WHAT? The prosecutors could not prove how, when, or where Caylee Anthony died. When you can't prove any of those three things, you do not have even a manslaughter case, let alone a first degree murder case. The prosecutors did the best with what they had, but they didn't have enough. There was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING "cut and dry" about it. And what do you think the judge did incorrectly?
Yes, yes, you were worried about your daughter when she didn't get off the bus and you acted immediately. Good mommy. Guess what? When my children were young, I did exactly the same thing. They could tell you stories about it. I can tell you a story about it. When my thirteen-year-old daughter was not outside the movie theater when I arrived to pick her up, I immediately drove to the police station. Impressive enough, I hope.
But I use my brain and so I know that the fact that a different mother behaved very differently when her daughter went missing is not proof, in and of itself, that she murdered her.
For the record, I am not arguing that Casey Anthony is innocent. I do not know whether or not she was guilty, and if she was guilty, I do not know exactly what she was guilty of. What I do know is that the case could not be and was not proven against her, and I would rather see a hundred guilty people go free than to see our system of "innocent until prove guilty" go by the wayside.
My Son was in first grade and I was waiting for him to get off the bus. The bus just drove by the bus top and my son was in my mind missing at that point. I called the school the bus transportation company and the police. I was freaking out and in full panick mode. What happened was he fell asleep on the bus and the bus driver did not know he was on the bus until he got to the school bus station. It was the longest hour of my life. How she went 31 days without reporting her missing is unbelievable. I dont believe het
Watching Casey Anthony in the police interview provided, I was struck by her sociability and ability to frequently laugh or giggle. Had it been my child missing my affect would be frantic, and I would have been in tears. In my 27 years as a mental health clinician, I did not witness as disturbing a display of inappropriate affect or attitude as in this footage re a missing child.
Playing the men or trying to anyways
Hi there!
The analyses Dr. Grande said the two mental health professionals had for Casey made my jaw drop open. Want to ask you if you followed the case as it happened, as well as how on Earth, if you can comment your opinion on it, could those two professionals not find her to be blood curddlingly sociopathic, or psychopathic, or deranged?
I remember this case very, very well, and remember how I felt when Casey was FINALLY arrested, and again when she was NOT found guilty.
Now she lives with, or works closely with someone who was involved in the investigation??
Disgusting. I know she is attractive and slender, but what madness is it that so many men would sympathies with such a "person?"
That José Biaz, for example. Seemed like she was sleeping with him the way he defended and provided for her.
I read men would wrote her and send her money when she was in jail, and wanting to be in a relationship with her.
Me? Couldn't find a man to save my life, lol... althought I wpuldnt want one who would want to be with someone like her, as well as I'm so don't even trying to find one. They make me sick, actually, now days.
Please forgive the way I skipped around... I have "squirrel brain!"
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I followed this case too. If I recall correctly, Cindy (Casey's mother) was very involved with little Caylee-- almost like Caylee was her own daughter. I thought perhaps the attention Cindy gave to Caylee made Casey upset. I wondered if Cindy failed to show very much love to Casey as she was growing up. Then when Casey saw all the attention her mother was giving to Caylee, it made her jealous and angry. Therefore, perhaps Casey decided to get back at her mother by eliminating Caylee. All of them lived together in that small house which would have caused a lot of tension. Did any of you wonder about Cindy seeming obsessed with little Caylee?
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Yes!! I thought very, very similar thoughts! Caylee looked so, SO much like Cindy, too, I thought. I thought maybe Casey was jealous over the affection her parents had for Caylee. Cindy overstepped many boundaries, I do believe. Not to pardon Casey's chilling and narcissistic behaviors in any way. Had wondered if Cindy may have created a monster in her own daughter with her ways and George's passivity over it.
High narcissism.
After being caught in lie after lie to the police , she tried to blame her dad ! She’s a poor excuse for a human being and mother.
I believe both of your comments 100% !!!
I used to know somebody like Casey. They lied all of the time, they always blamed somebody else no matter what the circumstance.
It's all about her and people are in their lives are only there to be used then thrown away once they work her out..
Some just shouldn't ever be mothers. They never deserve that privilege yet see it as their right.
I wonder what it's like to be someone like her. Her genuine self and the facade she presents to the world are entirely distinct. So her real self has no real connection outside of her skull. Strange.
@@NeuroPulse The whole family is weird.
I feel so sorry for the Granddad. You can see from interviews how heartbroken he is, and to be dragged through the mud like that by your own daughter. Despicable.
Let me make this easy for you. She is guilty AF, I’m using this sophisticated mental ability called common F sense.
Yes she did it! Common F Semse!
@@ansnfbsknanssshshbsnsndnd5438 Didn't know that. Just icing on the cake! She did it!
She drowned in the pool! This woman is a proven liar, look at the fake nanny story and the depth of the lie. She said the nanny was originally from new York and came down here to study at the university of Florida. She didn't exist!!! Also the co worker at universal studios Juliette Lewis (not the actress) doesn't exist. The prosecutor's all need to be fired.
Oh my god dude. We cannot convict people based on "coMmOn sEnSe" like that's the EXACT mistake the stupid prosecutor made and that's exactly why Casey Anthony walks free today. EVIDENCE. LOGIC. NOT "common sense"
considering the prosecution fucked up, she's innocent. Overcharged her and didn't build a strong enough case for the charge. I think she's guilty but the prosecution fuck'd up.
I love the way you annalise these cases. You force me to see things from a very different perspective. Love your site
She never shown any empathy or pain for the fact that her daughter was dead
She got away with murder
And she sleeps good at night, her words.
She used tape to stop her breathing, she suffered at the hand of her mum
@@dp503 Yes, and might be the way the little angel died.
Exactly. That lack of response to her child's death is enough to prove that the MMPI results were rubbish.
She won't get away with it because when it's Judgement Day she will be found accountable for Caylees death. Amen
I think the parents were afraid of Casey.
They knew they had a monster for a daughter. A compulsive liar. They will never know what really happened but they KNOW.
@Sweet Pea loads of people are sexually abused and that does NOT cause them to become murderers! she was a malignant narcissist, actually a sociopath
There is a Dateline interview of her parents. Her mother is the sucker that believes her, and her father knows she did it for sure. He won't even talk to her. Very interesting video.
I think the marriage of the parents was in trouble and Cindy was trying to use George as a fall guy to clear Casey's name and get him out of her life at the same time. (I believe Cindy, at least, knew Casey murdered Caylee.)
They don't want to admit what she did, because then what does that say about their parenting? They raised a sociopath.
I don't think they were scared of her. They just spoilt her. Turned a blind eye to all her lies or played along with them. Refusing to accept the reality that she did bad things. Maybe partly because they didn't want to accept any responsibility for how she turned out. Easier to pretend she is perfect and that they in turn are perfect parents.
My dog ran off for 12 minutes. I was distraught and called a friend immediately to help search. I found him 2 doors along sniffing for foxes.
Your dog was arrested?
My Chihuahua did this and I was running around the neighborhood, sobbing and calling her name like an actual crazy person, meanwhile she is in the neighbor's backyard just watching me from under their fence >=/
Sooo Why Are you comparing dog with a kid???It is not the same!Get that in your head
I had a cat once a month she disappeared I called her every morning afternoon and night till one evening she came back with her belly full and a copple tom cats . I never gave up hope . Now if it was my child I would of called the cops ASAP and would of gone to the ends of the earth bare foot looking for my child if anyone took them .
She didn't cos she already knew her parents had something to do with it as well. There is no doubt in my mind that it won't happen again maybe it will be her partners death next she will try cover up or another child's death. Remember shes got away with everything qlll her life . Her confidence of her self is growing and some one like her will eventually slip up.
Shes a narcistuc demon
@@NoName-gv1sg They are comparing the reaction to a pet gone missing to Casey not reacting at all when her child went missing. They're pointing out that a normal and innocent person would have been at least as upset as a person whose dog just ran away.
I think Casey has had excuses made by her parents all her life and so has never had to take responsibility for anything, even her daughter. I'm not sure if she purposely murdered her, but I'm sure she is responsible for her death by negligence at the very least. I also think her parents knew that Casey was responsible and they covered for her the same way they have for most of her life. I just really feel for the little girl who lost her life 💔😢
I think she duct taped her and left her in the car while she partied at the club. I think she did that a lot instead of getting a babysitter or staying at home. And one time she stayed in the club too long or duct taped her too tightly and it finally ended poor Caley. Casey is a monster
I love that you’re covering publicized cases-and doing so with thoughtful, academically-backed, well-researched, analyses.
Dr. Phil, take note of Dr Grand and his channel. You don’t have to sensationalize your subjects-and the science of psychology-to attract an audience.
Brenda DeHart - i agree
Dr. Phil is old news now
Agreed. Dr. Todd Grande
doesn't impose himself, remaining objective to the current case or cases.
CRACKERJack Thesarcasticcat
Dr Phil’s latest click-bait: “Lady Gaga’s Choreographer Evaluates 20-Year-Old Who Claims She’s The Best Dancer In The World.” On the show, Dr Phil and the choreographer publicly shamed the dancer after she performed-all for the benevolent purpose of slapping her with a big fat reality check. Did she meet any criteria for a personality or mood disorder? We’ll never know....
Dear CRACKERJack, I appreciate your comment in defense of Dr Phil, citing his saintly patience. But he NEEDS the patience of a saint - considering the fact that his guests are cherry-picked for their extreme dysfunction - and considering the delicious drama that comes from The Hawthorn Effect, when people modify their behavior because they know they’re being observed. Extremely dysfunctional people + Hawthorn Effect = Dr. Jerry-Springer-Phil.
Yet I can see why you stuck up for Dr Phil. He’s famous. He’s friends with Oprah. He’s not a complete monster. For example, he offers his guests post-show interventions & counseling, which is a good thing. But unfortunately he also offers his guests with a sensational slew of on-the-spot therapies that involve surprise! family members, surprise! criticism, and surprise! topic changes. At least one person has committed suicide, and many lives and reputations have been damaged, after being Dr-Philled. He’s been sued by guests, and his conduct has been reprimanded by the APA.
But the whole reason for my post was to comment on how Dr Grande’s educational approach is helping mental health and mental illness. Now that he’s doing more videos about famous (and infamous) people, I began to think about another PhD psychologist whose show features famous people. Comparing the two made me take a closer look at Dr Phil... how ridiculous his approach and antics are, and how they actually support the prejudice, ignorance, and stigma that surrounds mental health.
It’s no wonder that Dr Phil surrendered his psychology license 14 years ago-something he should be disclosing at the beginning of every TV episode. He’s not “textbook.” He couldn’t, or wouldn’t, adhere to at least one of psychology’s core ethical duties: “To strive to help the public in developing informed judgments and choices concerning human behavior.... in order to contribute to human welfare.” Dr Grande, on the other-hand, does this grandly. While Dr Phil has made a mockery out of mental illness, Dr Grande is giving it a makeover, making it both legit and fascinating.
@CRACKERJack Thesarcasticcat Phil is an exploitative bully
The judge, a few years later, said that despite it being mostly circumstantial, there was enough evidence for a conviction and he was in disbelief at the verdict. He said she was incredibly manipulative and made sure to appear solely one way in front of the jury, but when they were not in the room she'd be loud and obnoxious, yelling at her attorneys and just being a B. The last part isn't from the judge, it's my description of how I see her any time she talks.
Almost all evidence is “circumstantial” rarely does someone do these things in front of witnesses. Agree with you.
Not guilty? So WHY is no one looking for the killer?
Sounds like the jury needed a better understanding of circumstantial evidence.
Look at the way she spoke to her parents when she ORDERED them to get the phone number of her latest boyfriend. She is a vile person who deserved to be locked away for life.
So, a judge is legally powerless if a dumb jury gets it wrong?
Guilty or not, that chick still acted rather callously during the whole ordeal. That tells me there's something *_VERY_* wrong with her. I would not invite her into my home for Sunday dinner.
this is like the most based take I read in this whole comments section. Shes a sicko and probably did it, but the amount of people here who are 100% sure on what happened makes me really really scared.
Based take? What does that mean? Did you mean to use the word biased and not based?
@@zoeyburger1211
Based - The quality of having an opinion without regard for what other people think, often a controversial opinion but not always. Upon expressing such an opinion it is customary for others to acknowledge the person as being based.
I think she went out partying for a few days leaving Caylee home alone, and when she came home Caylee had died of thirst/ hunger or accident. So in her mind she didn't think she killed her. But her negligence had killed her.
This makes no sense. Cindy or George would have seen Caylee at the house if Casey just left her there alone. She suffocated her after she googled fool proof suffocation, threw her in the trunk and after a few botched ways of disposing her body early on in the days after she killed her, she threw her in the woods to rot and ditched the car after the odor became too much.
Well, one of the biggest problems with the state's case was they charged Anthony with first degree murder and the autopsy was indeterminate (ie they couldn't say for certain how she died). Or when. Or where. So first degree murder is really overplaying your hand, so to speak. Something like you're talking about, with a 'involuntary manslaughter' charge due to negligence would have been much more likely to land a conviction.
I think we sometimes mull over the obvious so much that things get blurry. In this case, I think it's very obvious that she murdered her little girl. Who puts duct tape on an already deceased child/person? Why didn't she get her death smelling car out of impound? Living la vita bella? How is that possible if your child is missing? It's not; not if you love your child.
To sum up: she killed her to live la vita bella It's true! It's all right there. I remember the last thing that I remember hearing her say was "I am not worried what people think and *I sleep pretty good at night."*
Whaaaat?
Thanks Doctor Grande. 🌹
Elisa Mastromarino They could at least hospitalized her for treatment because it is clear that she has a huge mental problem. Compulsive lies are dangerous.
Well said. It was not accidental overdose. Not with the duct tape.
Bella vita
Elisa Mastromarino you hit the nail on the head here and hearing endless drivel sometimes I think purposely messes up juries
I think the tape was there because the body started to purge .
There is a bad theme in Casey Anthony's life. She gets away with her lies. So sad, for little Caylee justice never can be served.
The case had the most incompetent jury on the face of this earth.
And the fact they had the audacity to interview after and say they felt they made the right decision and another juror was selling details to the press AND someone working in the legal office with Casey's lawyer walked in on them having sex in the office. Like they dropped the ball hard
The prosecution was caught off guard and should take blame. They were caught off guard when the defense claimed that the death was accidental. They should have anticipated this and built their case accordingly. Casey got by with murder.
You people think you know the facts of the case as they were heard in the court room, when in reality, you only know of little bits here and there, usually to sway you into believing one side or the other. The 12 jurors heard all the facts of the case and received a set of jury instructions that had to be followed. These instructions are generally clear and concise. e.g If you determine that Casey did not do action "X" then charge "1" should yield a "Not guilty" verdict and lesser included charges should not be considered etc. So all in all, based on what was discussed in the court and based on the legal standards, they probably yielded the correct verdict.
I personally believe that she DID commit the murder. However it is incredibly important, above all, to maintain the presumption of innocence and the proving of one's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. The reality is that sometimes we will get cases like these. Cases where the common sense part of our minds tell us that of course "she's guilty!" but the evidence-based side of the case don't actually sufficiently support that proposition. This is unfortunately a part of a justice system that leans in favour of the freedom and liberties of defendants, as it should.
Well, the jury system is based on the idea of a jury "of your piers"... seems she got exactly that...
Except for oj's jury
Parents that their children die in accidents had been blamed and had been send to jail for years, and this monster mocked justice and goes free. Ridiculous.
The part that really made me realize how much in denial that Cindy Anthony lived in was when she had "no idea" Casey was pregnant with Caylee. If you see the photo of her at the family wedding - way out there 8 months pregnant - I have a hard time believing that Cindy lived much in reality.
That was one of the most bizarre parts of this case.
Cindy’s not in denial in the sense that she can’t come to terms with the truth. She’s in denial in the manipulative sense - she will lie to your face even when the obvious truth is right in front of you.
@@leatherapron9876 i agree with u. I think she knew but couldnt accept it.
Cindy was a registered nurse and there's no way she didn't know that Casey was pregnant.
Who was Caylee's father, or who 'fathered' her?
Watching another video, where they give detailed background....Casey was always a compulsive liar. So she was not lying as a way to dissociate....she has always had that issue
The mother Cindy protected Casey all her life letting her get away with lies
Florida law is extremely unique and favors criminals.
I heard the parents threw her a grad party when she actually dropped out of school. And they knew it
Denial is the biggest sin committed by parents.
I totally agree!
@@iloveamerica64 they did want to throw a party but Casey didn’t tell them that she didn’t graduate. Her mom had to call the school and find out the day before graduation because Casey lied about details on where graduation was, etc.
She absolutely did it and she got away with it because she had an incredible lawyer and she was a beautiful young lady. It was hard to put the image of a child murderer with her appearance. I pray 🙏 she never has more children
What mother allows her toddler to be missing for 31 days without calling the police but instead goes out partying and then invents fanciful stories that distract the police?
A mother who murdered her daughter, that's who.
If I had been on that jury, it would have at least hung.
Same here. Disgusting. I don't know who in their right mind does this.
@@AmyAndThePup True. Disgusting, yes. I'm guessing a "wrong" mind does that, not a "right" mind. ✨
Because if caylee had died from drowning, she found her dead she couldn't deal with it and went into denial. People do do that when they can't deal with a very traumatic experience.
For instance when a woman becomes pregnant from a violent rape, they go into denial until they deliver the child.
Absolutely! A normal, loving mother call the police and does not "investigate" on her own. She lied just about everything and got away with it. That is another reason why I do not trust justice.
I'am surprised she didn't blame it on the "TOOTH FAIRY" or the "EASTER BUNNY". Her arrogance and depravity knows no bounds.
If she had her parents would have bought her a basket of candy, and put money under her pillow!🧚🐇🧺
I don't think there's ever been a case so clean-cut. The mind boggles.
I panicked more when I lost my phone than this so called mom "losing"(we all know she is a killer) her daughter. I hope karma will come after her, the jury and her lawyer. They deserve the worst!
Kaylee would’ve turned 15 today.
Holy shit.
WOW
So sad we pray for you kayleigh
@ Caylee*, rest in peace
💔
She had a search history with “foolproof suffocation”. We don’t know the specifics of how guilty she is, but she is guilty.
Why do you think he would have left that out of the video?
No she didn't. Look it up. It was a mistake and the tech guy admitted it later.
@@Mitchell_is_smart._You2bs_dumb He is making excuses for the jury even though they had all the evidence of Casey being guilty.
Dr Grande I recently watched an interview with the parents. They said that when Casey first took Caylee ‘away’, it was only supposed to be for a week. After the week was up Casey had claimed that she had a problem with her car, delaying her return home. And then more & more excuses until finally the parents freaked out completely and called police. She said every time she wants to speak to Caylee, Casey hasn’t put her on the phone, making excuses. These parents clearly wouldn’t have instantly thought, “They’re not back in a week, she must have murdered Caylee”. No parent would just think that. Even if you have a bad feeling you’d be in denial. I think these parents are amazing. The fact that they alerted the police when their pain and panic became bigger than denial about their daughter. Let’s face it..most people would still try to protect their child, even though they believed they’d killed a child. Look at psychopath Cindy Watts.
The impound company who had her car which tied to her parents was the first thing giving the parents cause in the eyes of the law to have police look for them. The mother and father (ex cop), knew enough about the fl law and are now worried enough, to know to say it smells like a dead body. Cindy tried to retract that statement to some degree because at that point she lost her granddaughter and didn’t want to have her daughter die by lethal injection too. You are right, after one week of the run around even from a lifer problem-child doesn’t make you say my granddaughter might be dead. I have a problem child, she withholds me from seeing my grandson when she’s mad at me or up to something and doesn’t want to be accountable and in fl, it’s perfectly legal for her to do so as his parent.
@@MENTION-IT-ALL I’m sorry that your daughter uses your grandchild as a pawn. That’s very wrong of her.
I agree. I know that a lot of people like to beat up on Casey's parents but I think that they lost everything over this tragedy. Cindy was trying throughout that entire month to talk to Caylee but Casey did what Casey does best...LIE. She kept telling Cindy that Caylee couldn't come to the phone because she was asleep or off with the nanny. I'm sure that Cindy must have been frantic. At the same time, in a state of denial, not coming to terms with what could have happened.
I disagree with Dr. Grande in the way that he makes it sound as if Cindy was inactive during that month that she didn't see Caylee. She was calling her constantly. The lie about George covering up a drowning death was ridiculous, as most of Casey's lies were. If that would have happened, he would have reported it immediately. He would not have let Casey rot in jail for those 3 yrs. before the trial. He would not have subjected her to the wrath of the public or the risk of a trial that could have resulted in the Death Penalty.
@@peggypeggy4137 Exactly. I’ve found that Dr Grande doesn’t look deeply into the facts. It’s almost lazy.
They are not amazing parents. The mother defends Casey to this day. That’s fucked.
What I like about your analysis Todd is your caution on relying on any one factor and very deliberately weighing up all the purported facts. I worked with a lot of police and found many of them very quick to judge and basically frame the investigation around their hunches (thus introducing large quantities of confirmation bias). No wonder you have 870 000 subscribers.
I was so obsessed with this case. I watched the case I don't think I ever missed a Nancy Grace episode lol. My heart goes out to that poor little girl. We even went down to Florida and visited the site where she was found. No doubt was she guilty for her daughter's murder. I can't grasp how she was found not guilty. It's absolutely crazy that she's walking free right now
She was guilty. But, the state didn’t prove the case against her. I wasn’t surprised when she was found not guilty, because I watched every day and was really amazed at the shoddy trial against her.
me too..I could never understand why she was not found guilty of killing her daughter...
It really just surprises me, like of course the jury was doing their job to the letter, and their decision was out of what I consider a technicality of burden based upon the rules that a jury must follow. But at what point does someone say “Fuck the burden of the state, she clearly did something, and a little girl lost her life because of it. She can’t escape punishment, we are responsible for making sure she doesn’t.” I feel like that should be the ultimate job of the jury in the end. But of course, that’s just my opinion.
Why is this woman free when she killed her little girl i just dont understand this law
@@DisDatK9 always have to make judgements based off how they can be misused. For instance, when a group of people let their emotions get the better of them, it can be a pretty scary thing. You have to follow the law to the letter otherwise there isn’t a law. Even though she may have done it, (I absolutely believe she did) if the state can’t prove it then she’s off the hook…as fucked up as that is.
As if she wasn't full of herself enough, now she's got "getting away with murder" on her resume.
I feel shes guilty, but unfortunatly, she'll never have a moment of guilt or remorse. Its just not in her character because it might interfere with her having fun!!!
The grandmother here, is the real monster. Casey should have never carried to term. Not every woman is mother material.
My understanding was Casey had taken her daughter with her on a “work trip,” so that explains why the grandmother hadn’t reported her missing sooner.
My take is the grandmother legitimately seemed concerned when Casey kept putting her off on why she couldn’t see or even talk to Kaley on the phone. They later for whatever reason decided to help cover up for Casey.
A tattoo that translated to Beautiful Life. After your daughter “accidentally drowned” what a nice way to honor her.
1980Punk I agree she’s guilty, but our court systems are based on a standard of reasonable doubt. In this case, the way they presented the evidence leaves room for doubt. I think the jury was right, and the blame falls on the prosecution. Every system has problems, but I’d rather have a woman who might have killed her daughter go free than have everyone who’s suspected of a crime be locked up and convicted for a crime they didn’t commit. Again, I agree, Casey Anthony should be in prison. This is a fail on the part of our prosecutors.
1980Punk they went for the death penalty and that was a mistake as well though
So after the baby drowned they put duct tape on her mouth 🤷🏼♀️
nachogirl35 My thought exactly!!
1980Punk I agree 100%, and what doesn’t make sense to me, if Casey is as innocent as she says she is, then why isn’t she out there looking for her baby’s murderer? I know as a mother, that I would NOT leave the police or the FBI alone until they find the person responsible for the murder, instead she does absolutely NOTHING. I wish that she would have just let her parents raise that baby, you can tell that they adored that baby girl. But unfortunately Casey is a narcissistic sociopath, and there’s not one little drop of doubt in my mind that she murdered her baby in cold blood, that was no accident.
A truly loving mother would do anything possible to find her daughter instead of living on like she doesn't have a single care in the world.
I want to agree but people react to things in odd ways. Example from my life. I told my mom that the babysitter was touching me. She shut down. When I asked her later in life (about 30) she said she didn't know how to react. For years I thought she didn't care.
@@JohnGalt916 She obviously didnt care,any decent parent would hit the roof
I guess now that she's rid of little Caylee, she really doesn't have any cares left! Casey won't win any Mother of the Year awards!
@@JohnGalt916
Sad. I had a neighbor -when we were both in elementary school- who was also being abused and by one parent. People in he 60’s were just too shy or idk what, but they didn’t want to tell the teacher or the doctor. So sad.
A mother can not even sleep, can't even eat... can't find joy in ANYTHING without guilt until her baby is found and that is a fact. This btw, never changes over the course of a mothers life. This is given by God, if this is not present... something else not of God is within the heart. . .
I wonder how the grandmother feels about enabling her daughter get away with murder.
That’s just it. She doesn’t “feel”. She is a psychopathic narcissist, just like Casey is.
She must feel horrible. Please be kind to her. If you even listened to her talking about her granddaughter and how heartbroken she was. Obviously she didn’t want her daughter to actually turn out to be murderer. And btw, Casey was NOT living with her parents at the time. That was a mistake on dr Grande’s part. She was living with her then-boyfriend
@@MissPopeyes22 where did you hear that? Because even in a recent interview she says the day she noticed Caylee went missing she remembers her mom coming into her room to say goodbye before leaving for work that morning. Unless her and her boyfriend lived with her parents?
@@moonmaiden4197 no not at all. Look up the phone call that Casey Anthony made to her mother the day she got arrested... her mom was basically insinuating that Casey had something to do with it and kept telling her to tell the truth, so much so that Casey got mad and said she didn't wanna talk to her anymore. Even her brother said Casey wasn't telling the truth
Probably believes her daughter's BS.
She is absolutely GUILTY! That’s what I think. Her lack of care, body language, her facial expressions scream GUILT! And every time I see her my stomach turns, instinctively.
Forgetting all the other weird things about this case, if the child drowned in the pool WHY WAS SHE FOUND WITH DUCT TAPE COVERING HER AIR WAYS?!
Dead humans leak liquid......
@@deannaausten8867 So they found duct tape on all her bodily orifices, or just those associated with respiration?
@@1nfiniteSeek3r ???.....don't know for sure.... however a diaper would fix that problem, somewhat......
@ gno nimo. This is gruesome, but her little bones were scattered by animals. On her skull her mouth & nose were covered by duct tape, and some of her hair was still stuck to it.
Starburst7641 well we all know that that's the treatment for drowning, don't we? She took her daughter away from her parents because she was jealous of the relationship that her parents had with the baby and used her as a weapon to hurt them. If she had just over sedated her why the duct tape? Did she think that the baby might wake up after the sedation wore of? Who the hell knows, but there is a dead child at the end of the day whilst in her "mothers" care and when her corpse was found she had duct tape around her mouth, she was wrapped in plastic bags, inside a hold-all in some woods near her parents home. Well she didn't do it to herself and she wasn't in the care of her grandparents. Go figure.
she hated her mom more than she loved her daughter.
Her mom loved her daughter more than she did
I think she hated her dad more. It was him that she tried to throw under the bus during the trial. And I was always disturbed by that. Why did she hate him that much?? And what the heck was up with all those horrible internet searches, and Casey's mother trying to take the blame for them, saying she was searching "chlorophyll"?? I still have so many questions about this case.
D P but her mother and father loved her. They sacrificed the memory of the granddaughter to save the daughter in the end they became criminals too.
To be honest I think she was indifferent to everyone except for what they can do for her or what she can manipulate them into. Sociopath 101.
@@jodybriggs1075 Agree Jody Briggs!
This case stunk from day 1. That's a woman with a black heart. She was staying with her boyfriend after a argument with the folks. She told her parents she'd dropped her child off at a babysitters and hadn't seen her for 31 days. Umm, no. A loving mother doesn't let her child go missing for 31 days. Her daughter was cramping her style. The majority of young guys don't want baggage and instant dad isn't appealing. She got rid of her baggage. I think she did it and convinced her parents to cover it up. She may have said she drowned and they bought it. What good would it do to lose your daughter as well? We all react differently to tragic events. Going partying isn't usually what one would expect. No "normal person" would know their child is dead and say it's Party time. The most horrific event possible is the loss of a child. This should have destroyed her but she just kept on trucking as if she didn't have a care in the world.
I do not believe Casey’s father was ever in on it. Idk if you saw the interview with her parents about 3 years ago but her father has absolutely no contact with her. The mother is doing everything she possibly can to rebuild a relationship with Casey. The only reason the mother & Casey do not have a strong relationship (at least as of 3 years ago, they may now) is because Casey chooses not to, the mother constantly calls and begs to see her. The father & the mother have almost divorced because of the mother’s refusal to acknowledge that the drowning theory is BS. They also have almost separated due to the mother still testifying on Casey’s behalf after Casey accused her father of the horrible molestation charges. It was heartbreaking to see the pain and frustration in the father’s face as he sat there with the mother through the interview. He has lost everything; his granddaughter, his daughter, and a genuine relationship with his wife. I don’t believe he was ever involved.
No I haven't seen that interview. Well she accused him of molesting her. I wouldn't have anything to do with her after that accusation.
Don't forget that she googled things like "foolproof suffocation" the day Caylee disappeared and later (during her 31 days of partying) wrote in her diary "I haven't been this happy for a long time, I know I did the right thing". The worst thing about this is that I've read that Casey has "recovered" from those "horrible times" she hard, according to her lawyer, and she is still dating and partying in Florida and will release a movie about her life story this year (although it might get postponed due to Corona). So not only did she get away with it, she is also going to make money out of murdering her daughter.
yeah she's a real treat. Me me me it's all about me. That's our culture. I want what I want and I want it now. Well we've destroyed the nuclear family, lost our faith, stopped parenting, hate the greatest country on the planet, allowed our children to be indoctrinated with leftist garbage. She's entitled and deserved to have fun. Her child was interfering with her fun. She better pack some asbestos panties for her future. Child killers are the worst kind of evil. Killing your own child can't be explained. Just pure evil.
@@forensikarie I watched Something about Casey today. Still have no power so I'm being lazy. Holy Crap Bat Man. She wouldn't know the truth if it bit her in the butt. The interviews, transcripts, even the 911 call her mom made. Everything she said was a lie. You didn't need to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out. She didn't care, she had zero remorse. Watching her smile and laugh in court. You can mental health mumbo jumbo things but I would have no problem sending her where she belongs. She enjoyed partying and getting laid and those are her best traits. She's pure evil. She had to get rid of her daughter because she was holding her back.
Casey Anthony absolutely killed her daughter and the state proved their case. I have such respect for law enforcement, the prosecutors, the judge, forensics team, legal correspondents and reporters.
My question is what went wrong with this jury?
Casey Anthony's sociopathic traits have aided with her acquittal. Recordings of her interrogation left chills down my back.
I remember watching this case each day. When i heard the verdict I was livid!
Same, LIFEISAJOURNEY
I was too, I was yelling at the tv. I couldn't believe it. She didn't even get child abuse,.
I watched the trial carefully and listened to the evidence and the defense. Personally, I do find her behavior bizarre when taken overall. First, she says that the nanny who is interestingly enough called Xanny, which is also a street name for Xanax, kidnapped her daughter. She told a story about working at a location where she did not work and took the detectives there on a wild goose chase. She found an apartment complex with a tenant's name Zenaida and then used that as the supposed location where she had left her daughter thereby implicating this woman who had nothing to do with it. Then, the defense does a 180 and says that the child drowned, that she found her, and that, when she told her father, together they decided to cover it up!? Now, we are talking about reasonable when it comes to believing the evidence one hears at trial. There is nothing reasonable about the premise that one's child has drowned accidentally and rather than call 911 and attempt resuscitation, you decide to bag the child up and dump them in the woods. I do not know how the jury considered that as a reasonable response which therefore gave them reasonable doubt as to the State's statement of facts. Circumstantial evidence is every bit as strong as direct evidence and can be considered with the same weight. I believe that the circumstantial evidence in this case points to Casey Anthony accidentally overdosing her child with Xanax, possibly, in order to make her sleep, or possibly using some other method to make her sleep and left her in the trunk, so no one would see a child sleeping alone in a vehicle, where she died while her mother was out partying. I know that that is a theory but whether it was exactly that way or some other I do believe Casey was responsible for her daughter's death. I do not believe that she intentionally killed the child so first degree murder would not have applied. As to her behavior, of course I defer to the experts., however, just from the facts that were presented, her behavior is rather distant, detached, showing little empathy and if one watches the meeting she had with her parents while she was in jail and how angry she became and how she attacked them, things become a little clearer. I found her very manipulative with her parents. I was also amazed at the ease with which she lied and the level to which she was able to make those lies believable. Or in other words, how credible she came across as though she believed them herself. Even though later in the trial we find out that her story has completely changed. I do not believe that George Anthony sexually abused her or would have taken his granddaughter and dumped her in the woods, in the swamp, in a bag.
LIFEISAJOURNEY LETITGO *_better to let 100 guilty people go free, than 1 innocent person go to jail_*
God Bless the U.S. Constitution
FlatWorldJomhuriRegime88 In my point of view the legal system has as principle to defend the victims of crime and you are only seeing as punishment.
I think the police overshot here: reckless endangerment or manslaughter charges may have stuck...
Shaynel Ahmed I see what you mean, but that’s such a failure, too, when somebody has been murdered. I knew a man who was convicted of manslaughter and only did a year. He killed somebody in the course of a fight.
I agree
Britta Olson Then why wouldn't that have been self defense?
I also think the charges were "overshot." If they had taken the death penalty off the table, she definitely would have been convicted.
I have a 22-year-old and a 15-year-old living in my house. I’d be very concerned if I didn’t see my youngest in my house if she isn’t in school and would immediately commence freak-out mode if I couldn’t contact her; my oldest, I’d be worried if I didn’t see for more than 8-10 hrs. A month is inconceivable. I can’t imagine she had absolutely nothing to do with this.
Everything you say I agree with and this is one reason the police should have immediately taken this way to a psych ward and had her committed as they did the investigation. They still could have gone back to the psychiatric ward and asked her anything about the case or anything to help. Also, a psychiatrist maybe could have had a bit of Fortune in getting some truth from her mouth but I kind of doubt it TBH. When someone doesn't call about their kid after 31 days and then they send the officers on these chases for people that don't exist such as the nanny, that's enough to put this lady in the psych ward because she's absolutely not sane. It's not excusing her but I am saying that if this was normal thinking with parents, we would hear stories like this every single day multiple times on the news. You wrote what you did and you ask yourself if this sounds like someone that's got all her marbles in the right place? Not saying that this makes her innocent any more than it would make Ted Bundy innocent. But Ted Bundy is a psychopath and sociopath based on the psychiatrist and their assessments when he was still on Earth. so I personally think that Casey Anthony should have been taken to a psych ward quickly since she was taking the cops on a wild Chase like chickens with their head cut off. Maybe the shrinks could have got something out of her that the police could not. I mean you know that when you said that you already understood and understand this is weird behavior not to report a kid missing. The crazy thing is they never put her in a psychoid the entire time to try to see if a shrink could maybe pull the truth out. SMH I'm sorry but I'm using speech to text and it still gets me riled up just thinking about the entire case back in the days. You made a lot of good points. Peace
She didn’t take the stand because she would have been shown for the liar that she undoubtedly is.
I love how Dr. Grande basically said that all they were missing was video evidence that she did it. 😂 Expert shade Dr. G, expert shade.
let's not forget even with video evidence if people have the funds or just a publicity hungry lawyer they will try to convince you that what your seeing is not what is actually occurring !! rodney king case !!
Dr. Garavalia, the medical examiner was convinced that the child was murdered
lechatbotte b
@@oneworld3524 Hoping 30 years later it would be different for a lot of people with that Rodney King video. I am not naive enough to think for all but hope at least some.
Every time I hear her story I come to the conclusion that she didn't want her daughter. She wanted to be "free" from motherhood and to continue to do what she liked without having a responsibility.
She chose a cruel and unforgivable way to do so.
Totally Agree 🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲she didn’t want Kaylee, Kaylee was in her way & keeping her from her partying. A spoiled rottin narcissist !!! She given accused her bro of having sex with her, she’s very manipulative also 🙀
@mon e
TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU, MO E. WAS ALWAYS VERY OBVIOUS,THAT CASEY ANTHONY, KILL HER DAUGHTER CAYLEE ANTHONY.
The sad thing is that her parents would have had Kaylee, in a heartbeat. You could see how much they loved that little girl. Heartbreaking.
She also knew how much the parents loved her daughter and that she was no longer getting all the attention... I remember seeing a visit between her and her parents while Casey was in jail and she kept rolling her eyes and getting frustrated because all her parents were talking about was finding Caylee and shirts they had made/posters etc... Casey kept saying “yeah well what about me in here”
@@thebranchorganics3721 I think the jury believed Casey was guilty but felt there wasn't enough actual hard evidence. A jury member said later they found out about things that weren't presented in court which would have made them vote differently if they had known. Not all evidence gets presented.
I am absolutely bewildered at the fact that the jury did not take the fact that Casey was out partying while her daughter was missing, the foul smell in the trunk, the duct tape, the fact that she was clearly wrapped up in something to hide her body, the fact that she didn't even report her daughter ''missing'' from day one, and that they didn't even realize that her defendant said she drowned, but then later said that her death is unknown, as evidence.
Yea, nothing to see there whatsoever.
Once the parents realised Cayley was dead they went out of their way to save their daughter
That maternal instinct kicked in like ot should have when Caylee was first missing so Casey was to me disconnected in so many ways.Maybe the grandparents tried to save Casey was cuz they needed to know what really happened to little Caylee. I think Casey s father was a target for blame maybe by Casey and attorney cuz they both knew he was not stupid when it came to the law and he seemed to me to be anguished and torn between loving his daughter and hating her but i dont believe he molested Casey
Casey was just a narcissistic spoiled grown brat. Stuck on herself and her ego
So true and absolutely disgusting. The parents are not free from blame.
There's a couple common sayings in the criminal justice system about juries:
"Twelve villages are missing their idiots today."
"A jury of twelve people too stupid to get out of jury duty."
There's also another take on it:
"The jury system is the worst possible system of determining guilt or innocence... except for all the other systems."
I don't think Jose Biaz believed her, he just represented her well.
I believe she paid him in kind not cash . It is believed that he was banging her front and back as payment for services rendered . She was caught naked in his office tho' they both denied it later .
I found you're final assessment very interesting. I am a criminal law defense lawyer, with 30 years of experience and for me, saying that the state did not prove its case instead of 'I did not do it' is a tell tale sign. That said I really like your nuanced verdict. We simply can never be sure.
I think the key that was over looked early on in the case, Was in a jail conversation with her mother, She admitted that her daughter wasn't far from where they lived. It turned out to be true. Only the guilty party would have known that detail.
The parents ruined their lives and reputations to cover for their daughter. They allowed themselves to be sacrificed to save Casey from life behind bars. Poor Caylee had a monster for a mother. Justice was not served in this case. Caylee was thrown away like trash. So sorry for my grammar error you are correct about the word thrown. Thank you for that I should have known better.😊
Throwed or thrown...???
disgusting isnt it?travesty of justice
They covered for their daughter, but she gave them heartache in return.
Georgia Ludewig throwded
It’s likely that all the previous times they had let her off the hook & covered for her was what created the monster she became. Not that it was all their fault. Pretty sure she has had the seeds of sociopathy in her character from a young age, and was probably able to deceive her parents from early on. Who doesn’t want to believe their children?! And she is a very convincing liar. The problem is that when they did actually catch her out in a serious lie, they not only accepted her ridiculous explanation, but also covered up for her to family & friends. So, what did they teach her? My behaviour has no consequences; I can get away with anything. One thing I will say, though, is that I hope she never ends up in an unhappy marriage or with another child who becomes inconvenient, because I would be seriously concerned about the life expectancy of either husband or child (especially if there’s another guy in the background)!
I’ve always thought the fact that they waited 31 days before calling the police was suspicious.
And ths award for most obvious and useless comment goes to....
No, they really didn’t realize she was missing. Every time they asked Casey about it she fabricated another plausible explanation. Casey often took Kaylee with her & stayed with friends or boy friends. She once took her on a road trip out of state. Remember, Cindy didn’t even notice that Casey was 8 months pregnant, even though every one else noticed it. She firmly believed that Casey had never had sex!! She is blind when it came to Casey. She survives on denial, poor woman. And she’s very controlling, but with a child like Casey who’s a pathological liar, maybe she HAD to be!
That they would wait one day or hour is suspicious
@matthew ??? Not useless? Lmao I mean, your comment was definitely unnecessary and useless, but I guess, considering your response, you won’t agree to that.
And in other news, the sun is a little warm, water is wet, and bears shit in the woods.
To answer your last question, Dr. Grande, Casey had been lying to George and Cindy and believed her for most of her life. When they asked her her about not bringing Caylee home she always had an answer for those 31 days she did not bring her home. Once they found the abandoned car, Cindy got serious and begin calling people and going to look for Casey. That's when she called the police. For my thoughts on whether she killed her baby or not: Of course, she did. I also believe she had been abusing and torturing her child for years. I watched that trial everyday. She had been fired from her job more than 2 years prior to Caylee's death, yet from the time Caylee was a year old she took her every day to a " baby sitters" while she was working as an event planner. So my questions are where was she putting Caylee, what was she doing with Caylee or who was taking care of Caylee and where did Casey go for all those years and WHY was that never brought out at her trial?
This was probably the saddest case I ever watched. Knowing she was found not guilty crushed a lot of people. There was just about no one who watched that case unfold that didn't believe she was guilty. So so sad all around
Caylee was one of the most beautiful Children, an absolute Doll.
The State ultimately failed the little girl. They did not prove the burden of guilt. I agree with everything you said. But the state should have not left this to chance and if they weren't ready they shouldn't have gone to trial. Thanks to double jeopardy protections they will never get a second chance to try this woman.
I think the jury had a hard time finding enough evidence to convict her on a death penalty. I actually think the death penalty charge saved her from being found guilty
they could have asked for a different sentence
The state didn’t offer alternatives. If they had allowed the charge of manslaughter, I think she could have been found guilty.
@@michaelpatrick7888 wow bro you're really out here oddly defensive of this woman. Wtf is wrong with you?
@@themistoklestheodosopoulos6253 Your delusional. "they could have asked for a different sentence" is not defensive lol. The Prosecution fucked it up and with a different sentence might have rendered a guilty verdict. I really hope you have nothing to do with actual logical deduction in important areas (like law or sciences).
I think you're right.
One thing I don't understand though. The prosecution thought that Casey Anthony probably murdered her daughter but they didn't really know for sure because they didn't know the circumstances of Caylee's death. Yet they were aggressively seeking the death penalty. So State officials are actively trying to get a US citizen executed for a crime that they don't even know was committed (1st degree murder) - let alone whether Casey Anthony did it or not. And nobody said anything about it. Where was the trial - Florida or North Korea?
The Anthony’s didn’t know where Casey even lived. Cindy has to ask Casey’s friend to lie to Casey and lead her to where she lived. Casey was making up stories not answering their call etc etc
i know, so how was cindy anthony guilty of not reporting it ? she had to trick her just to
talk to her. then she reported it. pfft `*`
Casey lives and works with the attorney, doing research, light housekeeping, and *other duties as assigned*, such as stress relief and pipe clearing.