It's Kuro's deceit again. He is the man of 100 plans. He omits that 90 of said plans are failures, 8 stand on shaky ground and only 2 are even worth considering.
To this day I think the most obvious joke throughout the arc should've been to gradually demote Kuro from 100 plans, to Kuro of 50 plans, then Kuro of 10 plans and lastly, Kuro of the hastily drawn plan.
I like how in Usopp's arc the antagonist is a man who lies not just to everyone else but most of all himself about his own stupidity. Nicely contrasting it with Usopp who is honest with himself and knows his shortcomings.
@@user-zq1eo2pp5s he always does something similar to this, contrasting the themes. Arlong was greedy and uses money for manipulation (Nami's Arc), crocodile would be a heinous king (Vivi's arc), Moria also lost his crew but gave up and decided to use zombies instead of accepting their death (Brook's Arc), Wapol deprived his citizen of healthcare by taking all doctors for himself (chopper's arc), Big mom goes berserk in hunger pangs (sanji's arc), and if we consider egghead to be Franky's arc, Saturn uses science for all the wrong reasons.
@@priyanshagrawal164 One of Water 7's underlying themes is using science for the wrong reasons, too. Aside from hijacking all the Battle Frankys to frame Tom, there's also the Pluton blueprints. Imagine if WG actualy got a hold on those - GG WP, shake hands
@@priyanshagrawal164let’s be honest egghead won’t be franky’s arc also does Saturn really use science for evil I mean he’s evil but all his tech were created by vegapunk
I always saw Clawhador as a gifted man who thought of himself as a genius. He is genuinly clever, but not as clever as he believes. This led to overcomplicated plans that overlooked obvious flaws, either because he was lost in planing the details, or because he believed in his ability to improvise if necessary.
@@Mortarion-xt9wp exactly. especiall going after Merry did make no sense to me, even as a kid. He is like a child who can't hold back any longer and rips his present open 5 minutes too early. :D
Im pretty sure its meant to be like that in the manga too. They make it a point to let Kuro look very ominious when serving food. I think in the anime he even makes a mention of her medicine.
@@Predated2 yes that's precisely it...which is why I don't think the anime made an improvement there. The manga/anime had a subtle realism and the live action had the most cartoonish pink goop imaginable with the characters all but dancing around the poison-kettle like a witch.
I don't think so since I always thought it was implied in the manga that he had something to do with her illness (even if just mentally). I never saw a reason to spell it out for us or make it something as clichéd as poisoning her
This is why I like Kuro in the live action more. He works so much better as a serial killer chasing teenagers around a creepy mansion then as the dumbest master planner in East Blue.
I heard a theory by The Crap Cafe on YT some time ago that I liked It was stating that Kuro is not only early version of CP9 like you said, he was a CP9 agent like who's who, he is the right age to be on a mission of guarding Gomu Gomu no Mi, he has shown one technique that is very similiar to rokushiki, and his motive would actually make sense Government wants you dead because you failed a very important mission, you become a pirate, being a pirate is too much of a chaotic life so then you make use of your secret agent skills to get yourself a comfortable life, because he never wanted to be a pirate in the first place, it was out of necessity and Kuro did just ran away, he is still somewhere out there on the loose I'm not saying that it's 100% truth, but a fun idea I do see as a possibility to expand this character one day
I’m sorry but what? Oda just states in a sbs chapter 401 page 46 and that he using the move or something similar to it but he so undertrained for it that he can’t use it properly.
@@thetruewisegamer that's fair, I'm just saying, this is one out of a bunch of options, I don't treat it as facts and neither should anyone But if he's undertrained maybe he never made it to be a full agent, like, they're training A LOT of kids and only few ends up in CP9, or maybe he went to other CP agencies, like Kalifa's sister Alpha, she wasn't as strong so she did "easier" tasks as CP8
The live action really improved Kuro I feel. Not only did he actually succeed in killing Merry, but making it so that he was poisoning Kaya over time made it feel like he truly was enacting a bigger plan.
Kuro actually appeared again pretty recently (like sometime in the past year) on a cover page petting a page. Maybe indicating that he managed to retire cause he was kinda chilling there.
I think Captain Kuro subconsciously hates himself, he hates pirates, he ended up becoming a pirate, and when he does anything pirate-like he subconsciously sabotage his own plans. Kuro is conflict of what he wants, survival, and to what he needs, peace. His want for survival is caused by his reputation as a pirate fearing for worst even if he was assumed captured that fear still persist as if something is after him. His need for peace is the goal of what he wants to achieve not to worry about that fear anymore but as soon as he implemented his 3 year plan he found peace unexpectedly as he fully committed to his role to actually liking the idea of being the unassuming Butler to the point that even the readers thought it was genuine.
@@DarkBlackGod14 It's not that hard to pick up on GLR didn't really give Kuro his due Oda managed to make a really complex character with Kuro. Also the reason he believed the plan would succeed was because no matter how it played out all he needed to happen was to obtain a signed will and for everyone except him to die. The order those things happened in didn't mattter which is why it didn't mess up the plan to turn on his crew the second they questioned him, though it was definitely a mistake.
You can view Kuro's silly plan as being a part of his own hubris. He creates this elaborate plan that could fall apart easily and could be achieved using more simple means, but its backbone was him living a more simple life. Basically, he was trying to incorporate both of his dreams in an incompatible way, so that he could live the way he wanted while still appealing to his own ego.
The saddest part about Kuro is that he's supposed to have so many plans, yet NONE of them was to "just wait until the straw-hats leave" before attacking the village... I swear, He waited all those years as a fake butler but couldn't think about waiting a bit more? Imagine if he saw Luffy and the rest the first time, stopped, and thought "you know what? These kids might end up ruining my plan... better wait until they leave" and then he wouldn't have Luffy to beat him. Usopp would probably leave with the strawhats anyways, taking the boat just the same. Literally he could've won if he waited a week or something, it's just sad. that village had NO ONE to defend it otherwise, other than the 3 kids. lol
I mean, to be fair, it was the ultimate way of deflecting blame. He was already slowly poisoning her, but with pirates in town he could have actually stabbed her to death and hide some of her valuables. He could have waited a bit longer and definitely have succeeded then, but its also easy to see that getting an oppertunity for a quick end against (to him) rookie pirates was such an easy out. If only Luffy wasnt a crackhead
@@jamesjoe1690 "just pirates" is enough of a red flag for a formar pirate trying to quit the pirate life, imo. lol He supposed to be a genius, right? Shouldn't have underestimated complete strangers that he doesn't know the strength of. A smart move would be to gather intel on them before randomly assuming "oh, they can't stop me, i'm a genius of 1,000 plans"... He'd find out that before him, Luffy took Buggy down, who's about the same bounty as him (at the time) and be more careful.
@@BigBroKuma Trueee, Even Buggy had the decency to have at least HEARD of Zoro back then. Before the bounties even lol Kuro just doesn't have "common sense" as a plan, sadly.
In DnD terms - he's basically specced in INT, DEX and STR, but dumped WIS and CON. Glass canon with no impulse control who thinks he's right all the time and doesn't second-guess himself, even when he should. After all, his main attack suits him incredibly well - lashing out at everything but himself.
i like the idea that kuro is a mia cp9 agent, thats why he gets mad seeing his bounty posters, cause thats like a becon to the marines if they see it and reconize him
Wasn't it implied or at least something we were supposed to take for granted that he caused her illness and would have killed her parents had it not happened by luck? Or at least I don't remember anything that speaks against it since her illness, for example, is purposefully cryptic. Though he is also a cat guy, so some luck probably makes sense
He only searched for Devil Fruit users tho and if not, they searched for one and gave him, which begged the question, what Devil Fruit suited him... I just realized you meant a grunt, not one of his titanic captains...
Oda has a habit of doing test runs of motifs earlier on in the series, I think as a way of figuring out what something more important down the road is gonna be / how it has be to represented. For example, the nameless background members of the Donquixote pirates that had animal features, a few arcs before getting to The Gifters in Wano.
Two things stand out about Kuro to me. 1.) For a character who is supposedly the second smartest character from the East Blue Saga (behind Benn Beckman) and who's whole schtick is that he's a master planner, his grand plan in the Syrup Village arc is rather nonsensical if you actually think about it... or rather, whenever we get more information about his plan, it contradicts previously established points about the plan and makes us wonder how Kuro thought things would play out in the first place. Like, it sounded like he wanted to build up a reputation of being a good man so that no one would suspect him of wrong-doing against Kaya, but his plan involves slaughtering everyone in town, plus having Kaya sign a deed that gives everything she and her family owned to Klahadore is incredibly suspicious to the point where you wonder why that's part of this plan and wasn't already taken care of before the pirate raid. Not to mention he keeps making dumb/idiotic decisions that actively hamper his plans, i.e. cutting down Merry because he suddenly got bloodthirsty yet didn't make sure he was actually dead to make sure he wouldn't tip off Kaya. I get the feeling that this was Oda's first time trying to write a smart character and hadn't fully worked out the kinks yet, preferring to write Kuro in such a way that he was cold, cruel and evil first, and *supposedly* intelligent second. I'd say he did a much better job writing smart, master planner villains like Crocodile and Doflamingo later on. That being said... 2.) What Kuro lacks in terms of not being as intelligent as he thinks he is, he more than makes up for in sheer intimidation. This was the first "serious" villain in One Piece; the villains we go before now, Buggy, Alvida, and even Morgan to an extent, had some comedic elements to them, Kuro has none. He's a pure, bloodthirsty monster, and Oda REALLY makes sure to emphasis that whenever possible. Even when his plans don't always make sense, Oda makes sure to have Kuro look as badass and scary as possible while either talking about them or making sure they play out, in particular when it comes to making sure his crew follow his orders. Really, while his plans are questionable, his fighting skills are still top notch, at least for that point in the series, to the point where Jango notes that Kuro hasn't lost his edge at all, despite being out of commission for three years, due to the fact that he still adjusts his glasses with the palms of his hands, as if he's still wearing his claw gloves. He's still not match for Luffy at the end of it all, but he's still quite imposing for an East Blue villain.
This might’ve already been said but I don’t think Kaya’s parents died by accident. When Kuro and Django discussed their plans Kuro said it was an accident where Django just laughed and said something like “sure it was”. Possibly hinting to Django hypnotizing Kuro to forget about killing Kaya’s parents
If I had a nickel for every cat themed shonen antagonist who was a surprise reveal halfway through the arc who only wanted a quiet life, I'd have two nickels which isnt a lot but its weird that it happened twice.
My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.
I don't think Diamond is Unbreakable was an arc, I would moreso call it a saga, and Kira may have said that he wanted a quiet life but he actually just wants an unpunished life, he wants to kill women and take their sweet, sweet hands for... reasons without being punished for it. Also I'm pretty sure JoJo is seinen.
Kuro: Lies to himself and his lies don't come true. Usopp: Lies to others and his lies come true. Kuros ego fuels his arrogance, while Usopps Ego fuels his fear. The cool thing about Usopp though is his character development is him realizing that he has been above his fear the whole time, because although he is afraid he does rise above and follow his dreams. It's also a bit funny that Usopp knows he is lying but they do come true, it's like his undeveloped haki is actually just seeing far into the future.
I am so confused. It seems that he is like one of the few characters that the name was changed for in the german release... Here he is know as "Captain Black" as well as "Beauregard" instead of "Klahadore"
Yes, Klahadore (jap. Kurahadoru) is his name in the english version. I don't know why they changed his name in german to Beauregard. But it fits him better since he looks like a french butler. Btw, here in Germany, they called Laugh Tale for over 15 years Unicon in the anime. What a stupid name! 😅
Yes, I was confused too when I first heard that he isn't called Beauregard/Captqin Black anywhere else. Funny thing is, Demaro Black is still called Demaro Black in the German dub.
@@gurururuwarararara8164 Black sounds cooler. More kids know english than Japanese in Germany. So the reference to the color doesn't get lost. Also this translation choice happened in the 90s.
Yes, Klahadore (jap. Kurahadoru) is his name in the english version. I don't know why they changed his name to Beauregard in german. But it fits him better since he looks like a french butler. Btw, here in Germany, they called Laugh Tale for over 15 years Unicon in the anime. What a stupid name! 😅
"How long have you been on the seas? A week? A month? ...Is THAT what you want? A lifetime of always looking over your shoulder?" *chuckles darkly* "You'll NEVER get a peaceful night's rest, because someone's always waiting to slit. Your. THROAT."
Kuro's actor was killing it in the Live Action. "Klahadore, the soup's too hot! Give me my tea! Bring me my blanky! Klahadore...I miss my mama and papa... All I wanted to do was RIP. YOUR. TONGUE. OUT." (paraphrasing)
Honestly, I do think he's smart, but that he has TERRIBLE impulse control and is far too arrogant. He's seen _some_ of his plan come to fruition and gone all "Well, nothing can stop it now!" That's why he tries to kill Merry - it's impulsive bloodlust. He can't wait, he's been waiting too long, so he lets it take over. That's why he tries to kill his crew - he literally throws a temper tantrum because, oh no, it can't be HIS fault his plan is failing! It MUST be them (also, he could easily have covered up Kaya's death by saying he got to her too late after the pirates had already had a falling out over something and killed each other or fled. Or pin it on Usopp and his father or something. There's 1000 excuses he can use that don't require him attacking the town. He just has to sell the story, and with everyone else dead, well, who's going to say it isn't as he says?) He's smart, he's just much more arrogant and impulsive in contrast to his intelligence. Also, there's a reason why Wisdom and Intelligence stats are separate things~ Man went all in on the INT and dumped WIS.
The Bountys can probably be explained by the lower ones being older ones perhaps? It's not like these bounty posters are magical and their value changes live on the paper.
that would make no sense my guy his whole wish and desire was to retire and essentially disappear from the world which he seems to have accomplished. So lets congratulate him rather than hope for him being dragged back into the story. Remember what happened to Bellamy after his return.
Giving the people who messed up his bounty posters the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was issued many back to back bounty posters. This would kind of make sense with the narrative he seems to give of being worried about being captured and needing to lay low. Maybe he did a lot of back to back bad things.
My headcanon is that he was a CP9 apprentice whose first and only mission was with Who's Who trying to capture the Nika fruit. He'd be the reason they escaped, and while WW went to Kaidou for protection, Kuro went to the weakest sea to hopefully blend in and disappear. Think about it: his moves could be bastardized versions of the rokushiki, specifically Shave/Soru mostly.
another fun video!~ i wanna see one done on Don Kreig!~ he was a fun villain for me because frankly he was the most piratey of the villains, he just purely believed in dirty tactics and frankly was monsterously strong
one of my favorite underrated characters that got me into One Piece with the 4kids era of the dub, I wish he got more love and returned in the story someway even as a cameo. He doesn't even have official figures or merch.. Kuro is my guy !!
You have to watch Hidden Island’s theory about Kuro being a former CP9 agent, plays a lot into his deceit and split personalities. I’d love you to make a video about this theory
One interesting twist they could give the Syrup Village arc is if Kuro had Jango hypnotize him into actually believing he is someone else until 3 years later when Jango returned and let him revert back to his original personality.
I really hope he comes back in the manga, anime, and live action. My dad, who I have gotten into One Piece successfully because we're watching the live action together, really loved how evil Kuro was in it. Bring him back with haki, better moves, and a better evil plan. Another thing too, as much as Kuro wants to live a normal life, he never will let himself do it. He's too evil and petty to blend in.
Liam you’re my favorite TH-camr, I come for the fictional pirate content but stay for your personality and humor every time. Each morning while I eat breakfast it’s a damn ritual to learn some more one piece lore through your videos. love ya !
The impression I got was that he thought himself a genius but really wasn't. He kept rejecting advice from the people who worked under him because "trust the plan", and all his plans were shit.
I think something you touch upon but danced around, is that who Kuro became as the butler directly clashed with who he was as a pirate. He let the butler life sink in and change him. Because if you lay all the things out he did during the actual arc, it almost sounds like he is protecting the village from himself.
I’m loving this little mini series of videos that you’re doing. It’s a great refresher from what’s going on in One Piece at the moment. I look forward to the Lucci vid very much. Ty you making all these videos for us and letting us having a great platform and community to share our own One Piece ideas and theories.
Hmm character with an unknown number of past identities has a Hypnotist for a first mate? One who could literally change his personality and identity for him? Very interesting…
Kuro is shown as having effective plans in the past with the whole faking his own execution plan, and others making him a fairly well known pirate in the East Blue. His retirement plan was pretty good and would have worked if the magical rubber moron, the boy who cried wolf, a kleptomaniac, and a drunk samurai had not teamed up last minuet to throw maximum chaos into the mix. He even isolated Kaya to the point only 3 adults and 3 kids had any meaningful contact with her for several years. No one trusts Usopp, no one will believe the 3 kids, and the pirates killed Merry and Kaya. There was never going to be anyone around to question his story.
What if Kuro was onto something. Just like stormtroopers supposedly shoot randomly so the jedi can't predict it with the force, attacking with your mind off makes it so advanced observation haki becomes useless as the user attacking you isn't putting out a threatening glare similar to kid when he attempted to blast shanks or when katakuri killed the assassin when first introduced.
Dude make video about the biggest problem with Luffy gear 4 and 5. I am tired seeing how enemies always let him away whenever he's tired because they somehow busy doing other stuff.
When Cavendish falls asleep, he transforms into a violent demon named hakuba that's extremely fast and attacks indiscriminately. Captain kuro does this stupid stance where he rocks back and forth before he zips off and starts slashing. Kuro is rocking himself to sleep mid battle to bring out a demon attack he doesn't fully understand.
I always liked the what-if idea of him joining the marines after his failed plot. I mean instead of running from them he will be the one chasing the pirates.
I always said that kuro kind of like fought himself because he had a conflicting emotions since he was emotionally invested in the plan so it's like a man of 50 plans each but they contradict each other. And I thought that he execute his evil part of plan when the straw hats were there because he was hoping to be defeated before he did anything, too bad to kaya. The reason I sought this was because of the projecting on usa. he really does hate his pirate self but yet his pirate self is uncontrollable since that was his persona which he adopted first which makes his butler persona a persona within a persona making it weaker yet he still wanted to do good.
Wasn’t it implied that Kuro killed Kaya’s mother and was probably poisoning her (Or was at least contributing to her depression/illness in some way). The only death he had nothing to do with was her father’s death
I would love seeing Kuro join cross guild. He hated being chased by the Marines and the Marine Bounty system of CG is a great opportunity to get revenge on them. My guy had a LONG time to train aswell, I love seeing chars without devil fruits
Wait, wasn't Kulahadores plan to 1. Get Kaya to write the will. 2. Kill kaya 3. His pirates attack. 4. He kills his pirates and blames Kayas death on them and he's the hero who stopped them. 5. He becomes the new leader of the island (or at least the new rich person on the island). He truly wanted to have a peaceful life. Maybe I'm completely misremembering.
Now to head canon some justification! Kuro had 'Klahadore' implanted by Jango's hypnotism as a separate personality, not separate identity there's a difference, when Jango showed up and he had to use 'Kuro' again, the lines started to blur, exacerbated by his cresent moon trigger, until 'Kuro' and 'Klahadore' both come out at once at the cliff side, 'Kuro' with bloodlust and rage 'Klahadore' wanting to protect his quiet life they end up slaughtering the pirates as a compromise between the personalities.
One of the things I liked about the Live Action depiction of Syrup Village is they had Kuro poisoning Kaya, and maybe being responsible for her parents death too.
Uhmmm i thought it was always implied, that Kuro was behind kaya's parents "accident" and it was also implied that he was feeding kaya poison in small doses. But yeah if Jango could hypnotize the entire village why wouldn't he do it ?
Kuro didn’t take into plan that he is so irrelevant that Jango became a way more popular/interesting character than himself. Truly worthy of three years to think about.
A three week black hole starts and we're already to Captain Kuro. Before the end we're going to see the truth of how Gaimon is actually Imu and bearer of the Hako Hako no Mi who had the One Piece inside him all along.
As a retrospect, it sounds like he could have just been crazy and self-sabotage himself or his second personality that may still wanted to be a blood thirst pirate.
the man of the 100 plans, but nobody said that they must be good plans
It's Kuro's deceit again. He is the man of 100 plans. He omits that 90 of said plans are failures, 8 stand on shaky ground and only 2 are even worth considering.
The Dutch van der linde of one piece
Ah yes, a mugiwara no goofy watcher
He never saw planktons plan Z
You need a 100 plans when you know 1 won't work 😂😂😂
Kuro: plots endlessly
Claws people, friends alike
Has no real friends
Destroys his furniture
Throws a hissy fit
He’s a cat.
really felt the furniture here
Got a like.
The claws alone didn’t give it away?
Knowing One Piece part of the furnitures could also be homies rip.
his outfit is literally designed to look like a cat...
thats why its called "the PUSSY foot maneuver"
To this day I think the most obvious joke throughout the arc should've been to gradually demote Kuro from 100 plans, to Kuro of 50 plans, then Kuro of 10 plans and lastly, Kuro of the hastily drawn plan.
You forgot the final one caption Kuro of no plans
Kuro of the plan to make a plan
Well Oda did a drawing requested by fans on chapter 1090 of Kuro reading a book with some black cats. So at least people didn't forget him
You know Kuro is good at hiding when even your final spot on the tear-list has him hidden behind the thumbnail of other videos!
BRAVO LIAM
Big brained move Liam's part. Masterful! Planned! Had to be! 😂
I like how in Usopp's arc the antagonist is a man who lies not just to everyone else but most of all himself about his own stupidity. Nicely contrasting it with Usopp who is honest with himself and knows his shortcomings.
This is great in retrospect but I really do wonder if that's the way Oda really thought about it, cuz I sorta doubt it was.
@@user-zq1eo2pp5s he always does something similar to this, contrasting the themes.
Arlong was greedy and uses money for manipulation (Nami's Arc), crocodile would be a heinous king (Vivi's arc), Moria also lost his crew but gave up and decided to use zombies instead of accepting their death (Brook's Arc), Wapol deprived his citizen of healthcare by taking all doctors for himself (chopper's arc), Big mom goes berserk in hunger pangs (sanji's arc), and if we consider egghead to be Franky's arc, Saturn uses science for all the wrong reasons.
@@priyanshagrawal164
One of Water 7's underlying themes is using science for the wrong reasons, too. Aside from hijacking all the Battle Frankys to frame Tom, there's also the Pluton blueprints. Imagine if WG actualy got a hold on those - GG WP, shake hands
@@priyanshagrawal164let’s be honest egghead won’t be franky’s arc also does Saturn really use science for evil I mean he’s evil but all his tech were created by vegapunk
@@Deathmare235 there's a possibility lilith could join the crew so it still works.. did you really forget what Saturn (on his own) did to ginny?
The only thing that actually sticks in my mind about kuro is his goofy glasses adjustment
You don't remember the Out of the Bag attack or his Pussy Foot maneuver?
Well, it makes sense if you remember the sword claws.
That’s my favorite part about him 🤣
I remember how Luffy kept hitting him in the head the whole fight
Fucking awesome
I always saw Clawhador as a gifted man who thought of himself as a genius.
He is genuinly clever, but not as clever as he believes.
This led to overcomplicated plans that overlooked obvious flaws, either because he was lost in planing the details, or because he believed in his ability to improvise if necessary.
True. He could literally have WAITED till the strawhats left.
@@Mortarion-xt9wp exactly. especiall going after Merry did make no sense to me, even as a kid. He is like a child who can't hold back any longer and rips his present open 5 minutes too early. :D
Clawhador lmao
Kuro poisoning Kaya in the live action is genuinely an improvement
He did that in the anime/Manga, right?
It's been a while
Im pretty sure its meant to be like that in the manga too. They make it a point to let Kuro look very ominious when serving food. I think in the anime he even makes a mention of her medicine.
@@Predated2 yes that's precisely it...which is why I don't think the anime made an improvement there.
The manga/anime had a subtle realism and the live action had the most cartoonish pink goop imaginable with the characters all but dancing around the poison-kettle like a witch.
I don't think so since I always thought it was implied in the manga that he had something to do with her illness (even if just mentally). I never saw a reason to spell it out for us or make it something as clichéd as poisoning her
then, why kaya got better?
This is why I like Kuro in the live action more. He works so much better as a serial killer chasing teenagers around a creepy mansion then as the dumbest master planner in East Blue.
I heard a theory by The Crap Cafe on YT some time ago that I liked
It was stating that Kuro is not only early version of CP9 like you said, he was a CP9 agent like who's who, he is the right age to be on a mission of guarding Gomu Gomu no Mi, he has shown one technique that is very similiar to rokushiki, and his motive would actually make sense
Government wants you dead because you failed a very important mission, you become a pirate, being a pirate is too much of a chaotic life so then you make use of your secret agent skills to get yourself a comfortable life, because he never wanted to be a pirate in the first place, it was out of necessity and Kuro did just ran away, he is still somewhere out there on the loose
I'm not saying that it's 100% truth, but a fun idea I do see as a possibility to expand this character one day
I've seen his videos and I really like them and they make a lot of sense too.
I’m sorry but what? Oda just states in a sbs chapter 401 page 46 and that he using the move or something similar to it but he so undertrained for it that he can’t use it properly.
@@thetruewisegamer that's fair, I'm just saying, this is one out of a bunch of options, I don't treat it as facts and neither should anyone
But if he's undertrained maybe he never made it to be a full agent, like, they're training A LOT of kids and only few ends up in CP9, or maybe he went to other CP agencies, like Kalifa's sister Alpha, she wasn't as strong so she did "easier" tasks as CP8
The live action really improved Kuro I feel. Not only did he actually succeed in killing Merry, but making it so that he was poisoning Kaya over time made it feel like he truly was enacting a bigger plan.
I just realised that the live action has no reason to hold back on deaths, one piece bouta get violent again
@Deathmare235 They’re going to kill Pele in season two, I’m calling it
@@gtdc4685 I wouldn't bet against it.
Kuro actually appeared again pretty recently (like sometime in the past year) on a cover page petting a page.
Maybe indicating that he managed to retire cause he was kinda chilling there.
I think Captain Kuro subconsciously hates himself, he hates pirates, he ended up becoming a pirate, and when he does anything pirate-like he subconsciously sabotage his own plans.
Kuro is conflict of what he wants, survival, and to what he needs, peace. His want for survival is caused by his reputation as a pirate fearing for worst even if he was assumed captured that fear still persist as if something is after him. His need for peace is the goal of what he wants to achieve not to worry about that fear anymore but as soon as he implemented his 3 year plan he found peace unexpectedly as he fully committed to his role to actually liking the idea of being the unassuming Butler to the point that even the readers thought it was genuine.
Thats... surprisingly deep for a youtube comment...
@@DarkBlackGod14 It's not that hard to pick up on GLR didn't really give Kuro his due Oda managed to make a really complex character with Kuro. Also the reason he believed the plan would succeed was because no matter how it played out all he needed to happen was to obtain a signed will and for everyone except him to die. The order those things happened in didn't mattter which is why it didn't mess up the plan to turn on his crew the second they questioned him, though it was definitely a mistake.
You can view Kuro's silly plan as being a part of his own hubris. He creates this elaborate plan that could fall apart easily and could be achieved using more simple means, but its backbone was him living a more simple life. Basically, he was trying to incorporate both of his dreams in an incompatible way, so that he could live the way he wanted while still appealing to his own ego.
The saddest part about Kuro is that he's supposed to have so many plans, yet NONE of them was to "just wait until the straw-hats leave" before attacking the village... I swear, He waited all those years as a fake butler but couldn't think about waiting a bit more?
Imagine if he saw Luffy and the rest the first time, stopped, and thought "you know what? These kids might end up ruining my plan... better wait until they leave" and then he wouldn't have Luffy to beat him. Usopp would probably leave with the strawhats anyways, taking the boat just the same.
Literally he could've won if he waited a week or something, it's just sad. that village had NO ONE to defend it otherwise, other than the 3 kids. lol
Ikr he litterally saw Zoro the pirate hunter and thought "Now its time." 😭
I mean, to be fair, it was the ultimate way of deflecting blame. He was already slowly poisoning her, but with pirates in town he could have actually stabbed her to death and hide some of her valuables. He could have waited a bit longer and definitely have succeeded then, but its also easy to see that getting an oppertunity for a quick end against (to him) rookie pirates was such an easy out.
If only Luffy wasnt a crackhead
Kuro didn't know of the strawhats power yet. He thought they were just pirates.
@@jamesjoe1690 "just pirates" is enough of a red flag for a formar pirate trying to quit the pirate life, imo. lol He supposed to be a genius, right? Shouldn't have underestimated complete strangers that he doesn't know the strength of. A smart move would be to gather intel on them before randomly assuming "oh, they can't stop me, i'm a genius of 1,000 plans"... He'd find out that before him, Luffy took Buggy down, who's about the same bounty as him (at the time) and be more careful.
@@BigBroKuma Trueee, Even Buggy had the decency to have at least HEARD of Zoro back then. Before the bounties even lol Kuro just doesn't have "common sense" as a plan, sadly.
In DnD terms - he's basically specced in INT, DEX and STR, but dumped WIS and CON. Glass canon with no impulse control who thinks he's right all the time and doesn't second-guess himself, even when he should. After all, his main attack suits him incredibly well - lashing out at everything but himself.
i like the idea that kuro is a mia cp9 agent, thats why he gets mad seeing his bounty posters, cause thats like a becon to the marines if they see it and reconize him
Wasn't it implied or at least something we were supposed to take for granted that he caused her illness and would have killed her parents had it not happened by luck? Or at least I don't remember anything that speaks against it since her illness, for example, is purposefully cryptic. Though he is also a cat guy, so some luck probably makes sense
This
I think a faster, haki-using Kuro would be an excellent Black Beard Pirate grunt.
He only searched for Devil Fruit users tho and if not, they searched for one and gave him, which begged the question, what Devil Fruit suited him...
I just realized you meant a grunt, not one of his titanic captains...
It'd be even better if he grew a beard, and become Kuro Beard
@@cxncxrtmxstxr a cat zoan is the only correct answer
@@Vyhox2000 cat beard
@@Vyhox2000 Kuro means black in Japanese
Their would be two black Beards
Everyone reaches Laugh Tale and discovers that Kuro has actually gotten there first and been there the whole time.
(He planned it 10 years ago)
@@DonKrieg-382 wouldn’t that be just hilarious?
Oda has a habit of doing test runs of motifs earlier on in the series, I think as a way of figuring out what something more important down the road is gonna be / how it has be to represented. For example, the nameless background members of the Donquixote pirates that had animal features, a few arcs before getting to The Gifters in Wano.
Two things stand out about Kuro to me.
1.) For a character who is supposedly the second smartest character from the East Blue Saga (behind Benn Beckman) and who's whole schtick is that he's a master planner, his grand plan in the Syrup Village arc is rather nonsensical if you actually think about it... or rather, whenever we get more information about his plan, it contradicts previously established points about the plan and makes us wonder how Kuro thought things would play out in the first place. Like, it sounded like he wanted to build up a reputation of being a good man so that no one would suspect him of wrong-doing against Kaya, but his plan involves slaughtering everyone in town, plus having Kaya sign a deed that gives everything she and her family owned to Klahadore is incredibly suspicious to the point where you wonder why that's part of this plan and wasn't already taken care of before the pirate raid. Not to mention he keeps making dumb/idiotic decisions that actively hamper his plans, i.e. cutting down Merry because he suddenly got bloodthirsty yet didn't make sure he was actually dead to make sure he wouldn't tip off Kaya. I get the feeling that this was Oda's first time trying to write a smart character and hadn't fully worked out the kinks yet, preferring to write Kuro in such a way that he was cold, cruel and evil first, and *supposedly* intelligent second. I'd say he did a much better job writing smart, master planner villains like Crocodile and Doflamingo later on. That being said...
2.) What Kuro lacks in terms of not being as intelligent as he thinks he is, he more than makes up for in sheer intimidation. This was the first "serious" villain in One Piece; the villains we go before now, Buggy, Alvida, and even Morgan to an extent, had some comedic elements to them, Kuro has none. He's a pure, bloodthirsty monster, and Oda REALLY makes sure to emphasis that whenever possible. Even when his plans don't always make sense, Oda makes sure to have Kuro look as badass and scary as possible while either talking about them or making sure they play out, in particular when it comes to making sure his crew follow his orders. Really, while his plans are questionable, his fighting skills are still top notch, at least for that point in the series, to the point where Jango notes that Kuro hasn't lost his edge at all, despite being out of commission for three years, due to the fact that he still adjusts his glasses with the palms of his hands, as if he's still wearing his claw gloves. He's still not match for Luffy at the end of it all, but he's still quite imposing for an East Blue villain.
Your editing and illustration team is top tier.
This might’ve already been said but I don’t think Kaya’s parents died by accident. When Kuro and Django discussed their plans Kuro said it was an accident where Django just laughed and said something like “sure it was”. Possibly hinting to Django hypnotizing Kuro to forget about killing Kaya’s parents
That opening line was insane because I'm currently starting a list/plan of meals for the next week here.
that kuro drawing by your artist’s might actually haunt my nightmares
If I had a nickel for every cat themed shonen antagonist who was a surprise reveal halfway through the arc who only wanted a quiet life, I'd have two nickels which isnt a lot but its weird that it happened twice.
My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.
Ku Ro
Ki Ra
Who's the other cat themed shounen antagonist? I'm so curious lol.
@@mmem4264kira yoshikage
I don't think Diamond is Unbreakable was an arc, I would moreso call it a saga, and Kira may have said that he wanted a quiet life but he actually just wants an unpunished life, he wants to kill women and take their sweet, sweet hands for... reasons without being punished for it. Also I'm pretty sure JoJo is seinen.
Kuro: Lies to himself and his lies don't come true.
Usopp: Lies to others and his lies come true.
Kuros ego fuels his arrogance, while Usopps Ego fuels his fear. The cool thing about Usopp though is his character development is him realizing that he has been above his fear the whole time, because although he is afraid he does rise above and follow his dreams.
It's also a bit funny that Usopp knows he is lying but they do come true, it's like his undeveloped haki is actually just seeing far into the future.
I am so confused. It seems that he is like one of the few characters that the name was changed for in the german release...
Here he is know as "Captain Black" as well as "Beauregard" instead of "Klahadore"
Yes, Klahadore (jap. Kurahadoru) is his name in the english version. I don't know why they changed his name in german to Beauregard. But it fits him better since he looks like a french butler. Btw, here in Germany, they called Laugh Tale for over 15 years Unicon in the anime. What a stupid name! 😅
Yes, I was confused too when I first heard that he isn't called Beauregard/Captqin Black anywhere else. Funny thing is, Demaro Black is still called Demaro Black in the German dub.
Kuro literally means Black. But strange that they changed it to Black instead of Shwarze (?) (I'm not German)
@@gurururuwarararara8164 Black sounds cooler. More kids know english than Japanese in Germany. So the reference to the color doesn't get lost. Also this translation choice happened in the 90s.
Yes, Klahadore (jap. Kurahadoru) is his name in the english version. I don't know why they changed his name to Beauregard in german. But it fits him better since he looks like a french butler. Btw, here in Germany, they called Laugh Tale for over 15 years Unicon in the anime. What a stupid name! 😅
"How long have you been on the seas? A week? A month? ...Is THAT what you want? A lifetime of always looking over your shoulder?" *chuckles darkly* "You'll NEVER get a peaceful night's rest, because someone's always waiting to slit. Your. THROAT."
Kuro's actor was killing it in the Live Action.
"Klahadore, the soup's too hot! Give me my tea! Bring me my blanky!
Klahadore...I miss my mama and papa...
All I wanted to do was RIP. YOUR. TONGUE. OUT."
(paraphrasing)
@@3slicessenpai He made "The Man Of A Thousand Plans" genuinely menacing. Ya know, 'til he got brained by a rubber-band headbutt.
Honestly, I do think he's smart, but that he has TERRIBLE impulse control and is far too arrogant. He's seen _some_ of his plan come to fruition and gone all "Well, nothing can stop it now!"
That's why he tries to kill Merry - it's impulsive bloodlust. He can't wait, he's been waiting too long, so he lets it take over.
That's why he tries to kill his crew - he literally throws a temper tantrum because, oh no, it can't be HIS fault his plan is failing! It MUST be them (also, he could easily have covered up Kaya's death by saying he got to her too late after the pirates had already had a falling out over something and killed each other or fled. Or pin it on Usopp and his father or something. There's 1000 excuses he can use that don't require him attacking the town. He just has to sell the story, and with everyone else dead, well, who's going to say it isn't as he says?)
He's smart, he's just much more arrogant and impulsive in contrast to his intelligence. Also, there's a reason why Wisdom and Intelligence stats are separate things~ Man went all in on the INT and dumped WIS.
The Bountys can probably be explained by the lower ones being older ones perhaps? It's not like these bounty posters are magical and their value changes live on the paper.
Kuro is Imu because who else plans so much. Also I've never seen Kuro and Imu in the same room together
You know its a break week when you see a video about Captain Kuro pop up in your feed, havent watched yet but im sure ill enjoy
I wish Captain Kuro would have come back to the story the same way Crocodile did..
I don't, even though I liked him as a villain. It would clash with his motivations to live a comfortable, quiet life.
Yeah. This man was on a quest to retire.
Maybe django could unretire his mind?
that would make no sense my guy his whole wish and desire was to retire and essentially disappear from the world which he seems to have accomplished. So lets congratulate him rather than hope for him being dragged back into the story. Remember what happened to Bellamy after his return.
@@WyloKyser pretty much the reason I said "I wish"
What if jango hypnotized kuro to think he was extremely smart and the captain of the black cats?
Giving the people who messed up his bounty posters the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was issued many back to back bounty posters. This would kind of make sense with the narrative he seems to give of being worried about being captured and needing to lay low. Maybe he did a lot of back to back bad things.
3 week break hits different 😭
My headcanon is that he was a CP9 apprentice whose first and only mission was with Who's Who trying to capture the Nika fruit. He'd be the reason they escaped, and while WW went to Kaidou for protection, Kuro went to the weakest sea to hopefully blend in and disappear.
Think about it: his moves could be bastardized versions of the rokushiki, specifically Shave/Soru mostly.
Imagine when we get the Imu fave reveal and it was Kuro all along.
another fun video!~ i wanna see one done on Don Kreig!~ he was a fun villain for me because frankly he was the most piratey of the villains, he just purely believed in dirty tactics and frankly was monsterously strong
one of my favorite underrated characters that got me into One Piece with the 4kids era of the dub, I wish he got more love and returned in the story someway even as a cameo. He doesn't even have official figures or merch.. Kuro is my guy !!
Let’s go another vid from the goat
I really want to see a video on Magellan. Even if he is not really a _villain_ per se, he is certainly an antagonist who deserves a rating.
You have to watch Hidden Island’s theory about Kuro being a former CP9 agent, plays a lot into his deceit and split personalities. I’d love you to make a video about this theory
Captain cold said it best 'make the plan,execute the plan, expect the plan to go off the rails, throw away the plan'
One interesting twist they could give the Syrup Village arc is if Kuro had Jango hypnotize him into actually believing he is someone else until 3 years later when Jango returned and let him revert back to his original personality.
Bro that was such a goated arc
Why have i heard nobody talk about this until now?! It never occurred to me that Kuro was a baby disguised as a Genius. 11/10 vid Liam
I’d say it’s not that he isn’t smart but it’s his true nature coming out like you can’t pretend to be something that you’re really not forever.
This series has been amazing Liam!
I think of Kuro as a precursor to Crocodile. A super intelligent man tricking the people around him to take control. He just did it way worse
I really hope he comes back in the manga, anime, and live action.
My dad, who I have gotten into One Piece successfully because we're watching the live action together, really loved how evil Kuro was in it.
Bring him back with haki, better moves, and a better evil plan.
Another thing too, as much as Kuro wants to live a normal life, he never will let himself do it. He's too evil and petty to blend in.
Kuro should fight usopp ngl
Captain Kuro the comedy of a hundred shitty plans. Lol one piece early villians were weird and I loved it.😂
At least they're true and classic villains unlike the ones you see today
Liam you’re my favorite TH-camr, I come for the fictional pirate content but stay for your personality and humor every time. Each morning while I eat breakfast it’s a damn ritual to learn some more one piece lore through your videos. love ya !
I appreciate the kind words! :D
“Kuro beat Kuro…his unearned belief in himself was his undoing” could be used to describe how Saturn handled everything on Egghead up until now lol
The impression I got was that he thought himself a genius but really wasn't. He kept rejecting advice from the people who worked under him because "trust the plan", and all his plans were shit.
I think something you touch upon but danced around, is that who Kuro became as the butler directly clashed with who he was as a pirate. He let the butler life sink in and change him. Because if you lay all the things out he did during the actual arc, it almost sounds like he is protecting the village from himself.
Captain Kuro, the ultimate example of "the Butler did it".
In this case it was the butler.
I’m loving this little mini series of videos that you’re doing. It’s a great refresher from what’s going on in One Piece at the moment. I look forward to the Lucci vid very much. Ty you making all these videos for us and letting us having a great platform and community to share our own One Piece ideas and theories.
Hmm character with an unknown number of past identities has a Hypnotist for a first mate? One who could literally change his personality and identity for him? Very interesting…
I want to see Kuro comeback with snow snow or calm calm fruit in some manner. 🖤
Kuro is shown as having effective plans in the past with the whole faking his own execution plan, and others making him a fairly well known pirate in the East Blue. His retirement plan was pretty good and would have worked if the magical rubber moron, the boy who cried wolf, a kleptomaniac, and a drunk samurai had not teamed up last minuet to throw maximum chaos into the mix. He even isolated Kaya to the point only 3 adults and 3 kids had any meaningful contact with her for several years. No one trusts Usopp, no one will believe the 3 kids, and the pirates killed Merry and Kaya. There was never going to be anyone around to question his story.
What if Kuro was onto something. Just like stormtroopers supposedly shoot randomly so the jedi can't predict it with the force, attacking with your mind off makes it so advanced observation haki becomes useless as the user attacking you isn't putting out a threatening glare similar to kid when he attempted to blast shanks or when katakuri killed the assassin when first introduced.
A video that would never happen without a large break. Nicely done
3:15 no no, it would work even better if story made us as readers convinced that Ussop is a liar too. Or at least leave it as possibility
The theory that Kuro was a failed CP9 agent who is constantly on the run is one of my favorites
Dude make video about the biggest problem with Luffy gear 4 and 5.
I am tired seeing how enemies always let him away whenever he's tired because they somehow busy doing other stuff.
Kuro is just like me fr all the man wants is to not work anymore
When Cavendish falls asleep, he transforms into a violent demon named hakuba that's extremely fast and attacks indiscriminately.
Captain kuro does this stupid stance where he rocks back and forth before he zips off and starts slashing.
Kuro is rocking himself to sleep mid battle to bring out a demon attack he doesn't fully understand.
I don't think that's the case for Kuro, but it is an interesting idea.
That's the most plausible explanation I've seen.
:] i'm full of thoughts that feel canon to me but not commonly talked about. Maybe i should make a one piece channel haha.@@catandrobbyflores
4:35 this made my day😂😂😂😂
I always liked the what-if idea of him joining the marines after his failed plot. I mean instead of running from them he will be the one chasing the pirates.
I always said that kuro kind of like fought himself because he had a conflicting emotions since he was emotionally invested in the plan so it's like a man of 50 plans each but they contradict each other. And I thought that he execute his evil part of plan when the straw hats were there because he was hoping to be defeated before he did anything, too bad to kaya. The reason I sought this was because of the projecting on usa. he really does hate his pirate self but yet his pirate self is uncontrollable since that was his persona which he adopted first which makes his butler persona a persona within a persona making it weaker yet he still wanted to do good.
Plz do Arlong next!
Kuro's secretly gonna be the final villain at the end of the story. He's retired to Laugh Tale and Luffy will have to stop him there. Totally.
My theory is that zoro was ment to be on Naruto but he got lost so now hes in one piece
Wasn’t it implied that Kuro killed Kaya’s mother and was probably poisoning her (Or was at least contributing to her depression/illness in some way). The only death he had nothing to do with was her father’s death
I would love seeing Kuro join cross guild. He hated being chased by the Marines and the Marine Bounty system of CG is a great opportunity to get revenge on them. My guy had a LONG time to train aswell, I love seeing chars without devil fruits
Good video
Wait, wasn't Kulahadores plan to
1. Get Kaya to write the will.
2. Kill kaya
3. His pirates attack.
4. He kills his pirates and blames Kayas death on them and he's the hero who stopped them.
5. He becomes the new leader of the island (or at least the new rich person on the island). He truly wanted to have a peaceful life.
Maybe I'm completely misremembering.
Now to head canon some justification!
Kuro had 'Klahadore' implanted by Jango's hypnotism as a separate personality, not separate identity there's a difference, when Jango showed up and he had to use 'Kuro' again, the lines started to blur, exacerbated by his cresent moon trigger, until 'Kuro' and 'Klahadore' both come out at once at the cliff side, 'Kuro' with bloodlust and rage 'Klahadore' wanting to protect his quiet life they end up slaughtering the pirates as a compromise between the personalities.
Love how this video just recontextualized kuro for me lol, nice going
One of the things I liked about the Live Action depiction of Syrup Village is they had Kuro poisoning Kaya, and maybe being responsible for her parents death too.
I subscribe to the theory Kuro was a CP9 Agent who managed to escape.
Could we get a Johnathan video from the G-A arc? #2
There is a really cool theory on kuro by the crap cafe where he might be a failed cp9 member check it out
Uhmmm i thought it was always implied, that Kuro was behind kaya's parents "accident" and it was also implied that he was feeding kaya poison in small doses.
But yeah if Jango could hypnotize the entire village why wouldn't he do it ?
Kuro didn’t take into plan that he is so irrelevant that Jango became a way more popular/interesting character than himself. Truly worthy of three years to think about.
GLR try not to use the phrase "mind-brain" challenge: impossible
that kawaii long nose usopp tho wtf 😂😂
How does Liam make every Villain sound so Well written in all of these videos, no matter who the villain is.
A three week black hole starts and we're already to Captain Kuro. Before the end we're going to see the truth of how Gaimon is actually Imu and bearer of the Hako Hako no Mi who had the One Piece inside him all along.
most underrated OP villain of all time
I still think Nukiashi should have been called 'Catwalk' in the English version. I mean come on the pun is RIGHT THERE
Hey I caught your scottish play/Lady M reference. Keep theSshakespeare up
I would just love to see what they can do with him now.
Most we have gotten with him is a cover page after 25 years of not being around in the canon.
As a retrospect, it sounds like he could have just been crazy and self-sabotage himself or his second personality that may still wanted to be a blood thirst pirate.
"A man who can't face his own mistakes" is called a narcissist.
Projection, deflecting responsibility, thinking of himself in the highest regard...Kuro would fit right into a large portion of modern day society.