phantom hourglass is underrated

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  • I like this game and I think it deserves a little more love.
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  • @BigBossSalvo
    @BigBossSalvo  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Howdy! If you happen to be watching this then thanks! And also it'd be crazy cool if you check out my channel and maybe sub if'n ya want! I'm working on new stuff all the time and I'd love to see ya around these parts again.

  • @SinisterShrink
    @SinisterShrink ปีที่แล้ว +788

    There was one boss fight where the boss itself is invisible, but the top screen showed you the boss' POV as it moved around. I remember that blowing my mind as a kid and it was such a fun and unique fight. And then there was that puzzle with a map, where you actually had to close your DS and open it again to transfer details onto your map or something. They really made use of the medium the game was played on in such interesting ways.

    • @BigBossSalvo
      @BigBossSalvo  ปีที่แล้ว +104

      100% they really thought outside the box with it man. This game rules

    • @MisterGoro
      @MisterGoro ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @Hern Hern Oh just days? I spent months xD, and just got it cause i just closed it to have lunch -.- That was the hardest part of the game, after that the game was easy in comparison xD

    • @kwispy9932
      @kwispy9932 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      that boss was so amazing lmao

    • @puppie569
      @puppie569 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I solved the map puzzle by accident actually. I got frustrated with it so I took a break and closed my DS. When I came back, the puzzle was solved XD

    • @paburopasillas7783
      @paburopasillas7783 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that's chameleos from monster hunter 🤨🤨

  • @noisepollution4473
    @noisepollution4473 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    Temple of the Ocean King is one of my favorite things in all of Zelda. I think it's just polarizing... but most people hate it. And unfortunately they're probably never going to revisit the idea in a major way again. But I personally love revisiting that place with new tools and trying to get through it more and more efficiently.

    • @watchf
      @watchf ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Me too, people hated it too much but that doesn’t mean that it didn’t get a little annoying after a while

    • @philharmonicestuary
      @philharmonicestuary ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Finally, I see someone else appreciate it, probably my second favorite Zelda dungeon after stone tower temple

    • @littlemoth4956
      @littlemoth4956 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@watchf You go through it like 3, 4 times? With new floors and shortcuts nearly every time? It's not that bad.

    • @watchf
      @watchf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@littlemoth4956 5 times

    • @az-kalaak6215
      @az-kalaak6215 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      you visit the dungeon 5 times (one for each map + one for bellum) but you can actually visit it only 4 times.
      The last 2 maps can be retrieved during a single run if you already know the pattern, it's just hard af since you don't have the grappling hook

  • @RedJoker200
    @RedJoker200 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    I played Phantom Hourglass before I got involved with the fandom. It’s a fantastic game when you don’t have some guy in your ear telling you it’s bad.

    • @thechugg4372
      @thechugg4372 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I didnt even know it was hated before this video, I thought people will see it as mid at best

    • @tumultuousv
      @tumultuousv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mostly it just being on the DS and the control scheme was hated. Which is fair enough. Some people have bigger hands and it would get in the way. Eat.

    • @tumultuousv
      @tumultuousv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ect

    • @RZ_2K
      @RZ_2K 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I fucking loved PH, it was my first zelda game and exposure to the series, i played ST and same thing, loved it from start to end (arguably more than PH), even playing some of the other zelda games i still have those fuzzy feelings more in the DS games than the more newer ones, i still have yet to play wind waker though so i will hop on that asap

    • @DrsJacksonn
      @DrsJacksonn หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Same here. I get that people might not like its control scheme after what previous handheld titles established. But just looking at the game itself, it's just a fantastic game and one of the best DS titles. And graphically impressive for the platform too.

  • @Dana_N_Collects
    @Dana_N_Collects ปีที่แล้ว +264

    Great video! Phantom Hourglass was my first Zelda game, so with no previous Zelda experience, I was floored by the amount of freedom and exploration the game gives.
    Also, I was hoping Tropical Slacking would be your secret song. 😂

    • @5ilverstreak854
      @5ilverstreak854 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      same! although to this day, even though I have never finished a single Legend of Zelda game, in phantom hourglass, I can proudly say I made it the closest to completion! might blow the dust off my cart and see if my file is still there so I can save Hyrule for the first time!
      heck, I even still have the custom gold ds lite that came with the bundle I got for Christmas! (albeit the top screen is broken and the stylus is missing...)

    • @PokemonFanhindiYT
      @PokemonFanhindiYT ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same i didnt even know what am i doin on a ship

    • @cameroncole2695
      @cameroncole2695 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same, I managed to beat the game due to exploring only because I couldn’t read

  • @VictorinoL42712
    @VictorinoL42712 ปีที่แล้ว +407

    I loved the game growing up, It’s not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.

    • @joeytheboobear8032
      @joeytheboobear8032 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Better then spirit’s tracks

    • @sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149
      @sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@joeytheboobear8032 *spirit tracks nostalgia anger* ):

    • @darkpendulumsystem
      @darkpendulumsystem ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@joeytheboobear8032 I beg to differ

    • @chimp9465
      @chimp9465 ปีที่แล้ว

      ive only played it with the mod that makes it have actual controls... I dont like the touch screen controls as it originally was, but otherwise its not bad

    • @arzfan29
      @arzfan29 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@joeytheboobear8032 spirit tracks literally fixes every single issue phantom hourglass has, like the ocean king tower and the music

  • @sammich1009
    @sammich1009 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    The DS games were my first introductions to Zelda and hold such a special place in my heart. I agree they’re not the best in the franchise, but they deserve some love too haha. This video does that wonderfully

    • @beccacroce7380
      @beccacroce7380 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mine were a mix of that and Twilight Princess on Wii. Dad tried playing it, but didn't like playing as the wolf, so he just left the game in a closet until my sister found it.

    • @dice5709
      @dice5709 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@beccacroce7380 Exactly the same with me. Played Hourglass and Twilight Princess. Especially Twilight Princess blew my mind. The Dungeons were the best of the franchise

  • @cyanknight2749
    @cyanknight2749 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    As much as people don't agree, Spirit Tracks is my all time favourite Zelda game. (Yes I've played MM, BotW, WW and MC)
    The world, characters, soundtrack, presentation and story really stand out among the rest of the series in the best way possible. (The tower of spirits is one of the best dungeons in the series.)
    It's a fully underrated game similar to Phantom Hourglass, give it a re-visit when possible!

    • @regretinglifechoices5519
      @regretinglifechoices5519 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      gotta agree with your take on how the story stood out among the rest of the series, spirit tracks is my all time favorite zelda game too and a big part of that is the fact that zelda is an actual companion and there's an actual bond forming throughout the whole game. you go through thick and thin with her, she quite literally saves your life taking over the phantom armor in the first segment of the tower of spirits and throughout the game there's a few fights where you need to team up with her, notably the 2 lizalfos battles, bryne and obviously the 2 last phases of the final boss.
      i feel like it's such a spin on the classical damsel in distress zelda or mario games always have that made the sequences where you fought with her or celebrated your victories simply were that much more charming and memorable.

    • @nonenothingnull
      @nonenothingnull ปีที่แล้ว

      master cuest

    • @chatdos9
      @chatdos9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Simple question. Is it your very first zelda game you completed?
      Don’t get me wrong, I really like the DS games. Even if I was a little disappoint at the time (forgive the 12 years old me) because I finished it In 3 days.
      I ask you this because I think my favorites (at least, the games I have most feelings for) zelda are Link’s awakening for 2D games and Wind Waker for 3D. And they are respectively of their representation my first zelda games.

    • @LexouDuck
      @LexouDuck ปีที่แล้ว +2

      While I agree that Spirit Tracks really nails the "keep coming back to this one dungeon to progress a little further each time" aspect, which Phantom Hourglass kinda fails at. I would argue that this is very much because you have ghost-zelda who gives you a tool to work with in the dungeon, instead of feeling powerless to beat the knights littered all around.
      On the other hand though, lots of exploration/freedom is lost because of the titular train mechanic, which attempts to make world-traversal a slow-paced on-rails puzzle minigame rather than actual "free exploration" - i think the Phantom Hourglass boat handles this better. Also, Phantom Hourglass has a better inventory of items, in the sense that all of your items will be of use in many situations, outside of dungeons. I think it is not the mark of good game design when items are only used in the dungeon where you get them (remember the sand wand ??? its like Spirit Tracks didn't understand the lesson from Twilight Princess' mistakes...)

    • @1800mexicano
      @1800mexicano ปีที่แล้ว +8

      facts, spirit tracks has the story, it has the music. one of if not the best zelda games.
      got it formy 11th or 12th birthday

  • @josephn1000
    @josephn1000 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I really love Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks. I still remember playing them on the train and having to subtly cough into my DS because the game wanted me to yell into the microphone but I didn’t want to be yelling like a madman on the train lol.

  • @Izelikestea
    @Izelikestea ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Hourglass may not be the best, objectively speaking. But i think its noteworthy for how accessible it was. The entry level hardware, the stylus controls, ability to take notes, and plot routes made it a dream for a noob gamer kid like me who wasn't great at learning button combos. But it never felt dumbed down or kiddified either. Some of the puzzles still blow my mind.
    Granted its not for everyone. But It will always be my first zelda. And the first game I ever completed from beginning to end. And I love it dearly.

  • @anderssteen_
    @anderssteen_ ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Just finished replaying it probably 10 years after I first played it, and I agree on most of your points except I really like the Temple of the Ocean King (I enjoy optimizing). BUT HOLY SHIT WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE LINEBECK-BELLUM FIGHT. The entire game the player is taught to never over-extend and press their luck, that it is bad to blindly slash at large foes, and you'll probably end up taking damage if you do. At the same time, many large enemies make heavy attacks that allow the player to get a hit in afterwards. What are you meant to do against Linebeck-Bellum? Slash and slash and slash and you win. Why, at the very final phase of the game, when all you're left with is your sword and your know-how, are you forced to follow different rules than the ones that have been established? This caused me tons of frustration and left a bitter taste after finishing the game, and I haven't seen this opinion expressed elsewhere (hence the rant here). Great video!

    • @BigBossSalvo
      @BigBossSalvo  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That's super interesting! Definitely not something I've put a lot of thought into. I suppose I was so taken by the linebeck drama that it never occurred to me lmao
      Also definitely can understand why someone would enjoy the TOTOC, I think I just have a negative lean towards it because of my childhood experience
      Thanks for watching the video!

  • @AmekDzbanek
    @AmekDzbanek ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I looove how people started to make videos about PH and admit it was actally good recently! Really enjoyed watching yours, it's short but very on point.
    Phantom Hourglass is one of my fave Zelda games, I've enjoyed it at lot and Linebeck is my favorite Zelda character! PH was probably like the third zelda game I've finished and the second one I've did 100% of! I was very proud of myself lol
    I'm glad you came back to it after so many years!

  • @marcosmunoa6453
    @marcosmunoa6453 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I remember wanting this one specifically because my elementary school library had the manga adaptation and I would always check it out. This ended up being the first Zelda game I ever played.

  • @hoot1106
    @hoot1106 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Phantom Hourglass and Spitit Tracks were my first Zelda games my 9 year old self loved them so so much and finished them multiple times, imagine my surprise when I eventually played TP, SS, OoT and then Wind Waker in particular! My then 12 year old mind couldn’t handle how different PH and ST were in comparison. I replayed them last year and I gotta say they have a lot of charm and remain very special to me. And while I think Midna is the best companion I believe Linebeck is the second best he’s so funny and his development is also great! So yeah PH underrated

  • @starbutter2730
    @starbutter2730 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I actually didnt get to play this gem until a couple years ago when i was 19 ish and man i really love it. The story, characters and world are sooo charming. It, Sprit Tracks and Wind Waker were games thta i didnt get the chance to play beforehand bc ive never had a gamecube but tbh ik that doesnt matter bc its never too late to jump into these awesome games. Also i just recently found your channel, I really love your casual but genuine tone.

    • @yoshi4ever122
      @yoshi4ever122 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here. Back at the end of 2019/through the start of 2020, I had an opportunity to play this game. Having never properly played a LoZ game before, I decided to give it a shot. And man am I glad I did, because this game is easily my favorite in the series, and one of the best games I've ever played.

    • @starbutter2730
      @starbutter2730 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yoshi4ever122 It just gives you that warm fuzzy feeling lol

  • @rehmanmir7865
    @rehmanmir7865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Great video!!! This was super quality video that hit a lot of nostalgic spots for me. I really loved how you showcased some of the games tracks, very underrated arrangements of some beloved classics! I might have to dig up my old copy of this game to revisit it!

  • @cactusrosi1409
    @cactusrosi1409 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'll never forget the day that a guy in my class was stuck on the temple part where you had to use the neat mechanic of closing the screen and opening the pathway. I remember feeling so amazed that I figured it out by myself as I told him that's what u gotta do and he was like "oh!"

  • @babythorgaming2166
    @babythorgaming2166 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Phantom hourglass is not anyone's favorite Zelda" Lies, its still my favorite. It was my first and it has all of the unfair advantages that comes with that. Super good video btw! Love hearing people's thoughts of one of my favorite games of all time

  • @dieselrichardson9055
    @dieselrichardson9055 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had a similar experience with windwaker as I’m sure many people did as a kid, but phantom hourglass and spirit tracks were a huge part of my childhood, since I ended up playing them a lot
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    Lineback is also my favorite side character in the legend of Zelda, both “generations”

  • @hajilee4539
    @hajilee4539 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh man this video is so underrated. There really isn't any positive videos on Phantom Hour Glass, and you did a marvelous job!

    • @BigBossSalvo
      @BigBossSalvo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey thanks so much!

    • @puline397
      @puline397 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Hajilee pretty sure Linkus7 made a positive Phantom Hourglass video sometime recently (two years ago, i can’t believe it’s been that long), if you were interested:)

  • @harukaf.n.1994
    @harukaf.n.1994 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Phantom Hourglass was my first ever Zelda game and it has a lot of nostalgic value.
    It had very unique uses of the ds system. I remember I got stuck for a very long time in the dungeon where you have acces to the sun key map location.
    I think the first time my cousin told me the answer, but for the second time I replayed the game I completely forgot about it until I accidentally closed my ds one day without turning it off, and to my surprise when I see the location transcribed in my map.
    My small mind blew. After that, I always tried to close my ds to see if that would solve a puzzle in any game.
    I think the only game that had this was Hotel Dusk 215.
    After playing other zelda games I get why this one isn't so liked, but I think it was a neat introduction to the fantastic world of puzzle solving of this franchise.

    • @sbboh-kcin
      @sbboh-kcin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thats almost the exact way my brother solved that puzzle! our mom told him to pause the game, so he just closed it instead, then heard the jingle while she was talking. Sure enough it worked.

  • @schnek8927
    @schnek8927 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I’ll never understand why so many people despise the Temple of the Ocean King.
    I legitimatelly think it’s great, both in atmosphere and design. It’s a unique change of pace from the other dungeons, and not just because of the Phantoms that roam it. (Always loved the Phantoms, everything about them is awesome)
    Going back with new gear and techniques to find new secrets and paths each time is *EXACTLY* what Zelda games (or any games with unlockable tools/items) *SHOULD* do!
    It’s fantastic!
    One of my favourite parts or any Zelda game, is seeing unique things that i cannot yet interact with yet, and *NO* Zelda game has done it better than PH and ST.
    It’s entirely unrivaled.
    It’s such a wonderfull way to spark curiosity in the player, and the satisfaction in finally returning with the right tool for the job is really nice!
    My only real problem with this game as a whole, is the difficulty... Or rather, that there is no difficulty...
    In a perfect world, this game would have a modding community, and someone would create a hard-mode for it, with more complex enemy attacks, more damage taken, and *faster phantoms!* >:)

    • @_Teej_264
      @_Teej_264 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I always thought that temple was a fun way to see how new tools and willingness to explore could save time and create memorable encounters when you go deeper

    • @puline397
      @puline397 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Couldn’t agree more and couldn’t say it better myself!
      Oh boy, hard mode Phantom Hourglass, the way you described it, sounds amazing! >:D

  • @morbean4591
    @morbean4591 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    phantom hourglass was my first ever zelda game and even since playing all the others it still holds a really special place in my heart. it's just so unique with the touch controls and just it's incredible use of the ds's hardware in general

  • @mjgamerboy
    @mjgamerboy ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This video only makes me appreciate more that I went to the effort to finish this game when I was a kid. It really does get better when you appreciate it as a whole. Great video, my only criticism is the audio quality/vocal delivery. I look forward to your other videos.

  • @ProjectGamerYT
    @ProjectGamerYT ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Wind Waker is a masterpiece, even 20 years later it still looks and plays great. A timeless artstyle.

  • @atvacs
    @atvacs ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Phantom Hourglass was my first Zelda game, and it got me hooked on the series

  • @alfiecoates168
    @alfiecoates168 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a trip down memory lane man. Stuck in the house with a cold this weekend and this big dose of nostalgia really cheered me up. First Zelda game I ever played.

  • @antontaun
    @antontaun ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really appreciate the DS games having its defenders; I always feel like a crazy person by thinking they are actually great.
    Great video too! Love your delivery and humor

  • @altirianfairyalchemyst
    @altirianfairyalchemyst 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    PHANTOM HOURGLASS IS LITERALLY MY CHILDHOOD. I love Phantom Hourglass and I love the characters so much.

  • @stacers2077
    @stacers2077 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    my guy, you have a LOVELY speaking voice ❤ ive definitely heard certain cc's that sound like they just dosed up on nyquil and ambien, but your voice is perfectly balanced, relaxing to listen to but a lovely cadence and performance ♥️

  • @loganc.2824
    @loganc.2824 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was my first Zelda game ever, and solidified my love for the series. I remember my dad handing his DS and this game down to me, and I fell in love with the story, especially Linebeck. I have such fond memories associated with this game, and I’ll always defend it. In fact I still have my OG copy, with my dad’s original save file still intact. Love this little game.

    • @BigBossSalvo
      @BigBossSalvo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's such a sweet memory man heck yeah

  • @gdcolwell
    @gdcolwell ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved your video. Your humour is awesome and I loved how you sprinkled some footage of the game’s commercials (which I totally forgot about). The ds lite era’s marketing aesthetic was just cool

  • @Hanshotchewie
    @Hanshotchewie ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Phantom hourglass will always be special to me as it was my first zelda game. I really enjoyed it as a teen and it was the doorway that introduced me to this amazing franchise.
    I still remember my frustrations in trying to figure out that puzzle where you need to press the map together, after an hour of trying to figure it out, I closed the ds and left it on overnight. After I woke up and opened it, seeing the puzzle solved by pressing the map together had my jaw wide open for a while.. it had just blew my mind that nintendo could use the actual hardware in the game itself.

  • @thefirely1439
    @thefirely1439 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My first Zelda game. I remember just sitting in the main menu listening to the amazing music😂

  • @TheNetflixGamer
    @TheNetflixGamer ปีที่แล้ว

    Gosh your introduction of wind waker was so good, this game means a lot to me as well and I love knowing that others have had the same experience

  • @hobqueer
    @hobqueer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg FINALLY A VIDEO ABOUT THE DS ZELDA GAMES! My first one was Spirit Tracks, which I LOVED! Also happy 200 subs!

  • @TheUndeadNinja
    @TheUndeadNinja ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this video! I loved this game as a kid, and having replayed it recently, it's one of my all-time favs. I really do think it's a masterpiece of game design, the way it builds up your progress in layers, each one making you feel more powerful & more clever. The difference in player experience when you first enter the main temple (phantoms are terrifying, oh my god they're after me help) as opposed to the final time (I am a god, cower before me) is one of the most satisfying things I've experienced in any video game. And it utilized the DS' capabilities in really fun and clever ways, without coming off as annoying or gimmicky (unlike Spirit Tracks, which kind of dropped the ball in that regard IMO). Anyway, awesome game, everyone should play it.

  • @toonbax3
    @toonbax3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is my favorite childhood game for sure! And I actually really enjoyed the Ocean Temple. My own speedrunning game haha

    • @yoshi4ever122
      @yoshi4ever122 ปีที่แล้ว

      The ocean temple is so based, I had so much fun revisiting it and going through it faster and faster each time. Think my best was somewhere between 2-4 minutes, but that could be wrong. It's been a while since I last played it so I don't remember the exact time.

  • @agingersopinion4820
    @agingersopinion4820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Phantom Hourglass was my very first Zelda game and very first DS game at all, so to this day it has a special place in my heart and I love it

  • @k.b.7718
    @k.b.7718 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you! Even being not high on WW myself, PH has been one of my favorites as soon as I got through the first 2 dungeons.
    Unfortunately ST has turned out to be an unbearable drag for me.

  • @zachfaulkner3160
    @zachfaulkner3160 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    From one huge Zelda fan to another. Great video man I'd love to see some more. Kinda inspired me to want to make a video on Zelda.

  • @Levi_The_One_The_Only
    @Levi_The_One_The_Only ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how soft and calm your voice is it's such a nice change compared to every other ZeldaTubers SUPER EXCITED AHHH IN YOUR FACE AHHHH voice lol. It's just like I'm hearing a friend talk.

  • @tobedetermined1564
    @tobedetermined1564 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Phantom Hourglass was my introduction to TLOZ. It was my brothers game but i really took to it and played it more than he did. It always makes me think of my brother and even if it wasn't for the memory of him, the game is still fantastic.
    My favorite TLOZ game of all time.

  • @UltraAryan10
    @UltraAryan10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Phantom Hourglass was my first Zelda and it really gets good the more you play it and I totally agree that its underrated. Even Spirit Tracks is really underrated for how fun it is though its much better near the early game but isn't paced that well in my oponion.

  • @LilTofu
    @LilTofu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing video! I hope this blows up more than it already has because yes, phantom hourglass DOES need more love

  • @tloz997
    @tloz997 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so glad PH is getting the love it deserves! Subbed and excited to watch the WW video. I'm sure it's gonna be great ❤️

  • @flightarrowbear
    @flightarrowbear ปีที่แล้ว

    Been feeling pretty crappy today, hearing someone remind me of how nice this game was definitely helped. Thanks for helping me cope with life a little bit by reminding me that parts of my childhood will live on in my favorite games (Spirit Tracks was my first Zelda game, and probably Phantom Hourglass next)

  • @James-yk5ge
    @James-yk5ge ปีที่แล้ว +2

    idk how i missed zelda games growing up, but my first zelda wound up being phantom hourglass. I didnt know much about other zelda games and I loved phantom hourglass.

  • @linkheroofwinds
    @linkheroofwinds ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Phantom Hourglass was my first Zelda game, so I had the reverse experience of playing Wind Waker afterward and having it exceed my expectations

  • @smery_
    @smery_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this video as there isn't really any with positive comments on this game
    It was my first, it's not my favourite as of now (MM is, I love the concept), but it was a positive experience for me. In fact I tried to finish it 100% many times before, but failed because I can't find the red/blue/green "gems" to upgrade the sword
    The boss battles are creative
    The characters are remarkable and have personality
    And I love Temple of Ocean King: the concept of the hourglass, the fact that unlocking new things would also unlock new paths (and I love to find all of them!)
    A truly underrated game

  • @savelamp7501
    @savelamp7501 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is awesome I expected you to have over 100 000 subscribers but no i hope your channel blows up

  • @Dengres
    @Dengres ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought PH this year again after having lost my childhood copy years ago. I wanted to replay it even though over the years I had come to the idea that it wasn't a good game.
    After finishing it I was surprised at how much I actually enjoyed it still. I liked it as a kid but it being my first Zelda and the online debate around it made me question that over the years. It's not the best Zelda for sure but it's still a really good time imo.

  • @PK-cg5ej
    @PK-cg5ej ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ah mannn, hearing island life takes me back to christmas when i got this game all those years ago... permanently solidified in my head. I really enjoyed this video and share a lot of the same sentiments that you had, especially with the initial disappoint of this game in comparing it to my favorite of all time, the Wind Waker. It definitely had its flaws, but I think it holds up pretty well looking back now! The ghost ship too really stands out in my memory as well.

  • @shea5421
    @shea5421 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I adored this game growing up and replayed it probably a dozen times. It was always something I came back to when I had a little spare time, or we were going on a road trip or something

  • @BigBossSalvo
    @BigBossSalvo  ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Just want to say: where in the world did all of y'all come from this video had like 300 views for like 4 months lmao
    Thanks so much to everyone that's subscribed as well, just an insane feeling to go from 30 to almost 700!

    • @c418vgytre
      @c418vgytre ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Congrats man you made a great video and deserve it so I hope it gets even more picked up and watched.

    • @instinctonline6875
      @instinctonline6875 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lets go viral bro!

    • @SupermonkeyPlaysMC
      @SupermonkeyPlaysMC ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not sure where, but I’m brand new.
      And imma say this RN. I connect and love the. Content and whole heartedly have a past with windwaker and it acting as my escape.
      Brother PLEASE make the windwaker video

    • @munchimoo
      @munchimoo ปีที่แล้ว

      lets gooooo the algorithm has found you ❤ love the content so far!!!

    • @Younecorn
      @Younecorn ปีที่แล้ว

      This came up in my suggested! I watch a lot of deep dive type videos and yours popped up. Great content! Subscribed.

  • @MrWhygodwhy
    @MrWhygodwhy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I particularity loved the cave theme, which played in every cave and nearly every dungeon.

  • @vaughnhaney7020
    @vaughnhaney7020 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My main issue playing this game was the final boss (mechanics spoilers ahead)
    That STUPID hourglass drawing requirement... I spent like a whole hour trying different ways to get it to just take my drawings and it just WOULDN'T! In the end, I did manage to beat it, and realized the problem was actually that i was drawing the hourglass shape TOO accurately (I'd like to note that I'm a digital artist and animator, so I can draw simple-ish shapes fairly accurately in a split second, and an hourglass counts as simple-ish). In the end, I basically actually had to draw a sort of Z shape. But that's the angriest I've ever gotten at a Zelda game, and the closest I've gotten to just straight up quitting without beating it. It drove me crazy that I was essentially too good at the mechanic for it to actually work :/
    Currently I'm going through every main Zelda game (and by that, I mean basically just look at the timeline then add A Link Between Worlds and Tri Force Heroes) trying to beat it normally, then I'm going to replay most of them to get 100% (if there's not a substantial difference between completion and 100% such as Four Swords then I won't replay. I'm also not gonna 100% BOTW, don't have the patience for the Korok hunt). That final boss is the only thing making me dread Phantom Hourglass- every other 3D game that I've already played I'm looking forward to, including Spirit Tracks

    • @Hanshotchewie
      @Hanshotchewie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I found that drawing the number 8 works with an almost guaranteed success. Its enough of the hourglass shape to work, and simple enough to draw quickly.
      Hopefully this helps.
      Edit. Start at the top left of the 8, and go left and down for making the 8, that way link ends with a spin.

    • @-memoria-2136
      @-memoria-2136 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Okay but the image of Link just furiously scribbling a perfect masterpiece of an hourglass only to whacked on the head is really funny

  • @GameTamer100
    @GameTamer100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can tell this channel is going to blow up

  • @FTIStudios
    @FTIStudios ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So happy that this video came up on our suggested feed! It is always a great day when I find someone else who agrees that Wind Waker is the greatest game in the series! You gave me a new perspective on Phantom Hourglass as well! Always ignored playing it when I was a kid, but I'm seriously considering picking it up and giving it a go! Amazing video! Can't wait to binge the rest of them!

  • @cankatmalik
    @cankatmalik ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DUDE this video ist awesome!!!! I really like your content !!! KEEP ON GOING you‘ll be big soon I just know it !!!! much love

  • @Tracequaza
    @Tracequaza ปีที่แล้ว

    great video, really appreciate being brought back to this game. thinking about it now it's honestly one of the most bold games in the series with how many unique ideas it tried, whether or not the execution worked. i mean you have the exploration, the temple of the ocean king, drawing notes on the map, the invisible crab boss, i really like a lot of these ideas. i want to replay the game now lol.
    i still havent played wind waker unfortunately but PH being one of my first zeldas will always have a special place for me. spirit tracks is great too but I feel phantom hourglass is often unfairly written off as the worse one in favour of ST.
    "minish cap is the most underrated zelda"
    I know this is pedantic but has anyone ever disliked minish cap? James Rolfe makes a distinction between underrated and underviewed/played which i think is important for this topic. Minish Cap while severely underplayed, I think is more consistently highly rated than games like PH or Zelda 2 (2 of my favourites)

  • @cameronsmith2723
    @cameronsmith2723 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your comedy in this video, instant subscribe for me!
    And Phantom Hourglass was my main childhood Zelda game, but I was always too scared to do the Ocean King Temple so I had my “gf” (we were in 3rd grade) at the time beat it for me. To this day it’s definitely in my top 3 Zelda games

  • @samfinnorchard9838
    @samfinnorchard9838 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every now and then phantom hourglass and spirit tracks are reawakened from the annals of my childhood memories. Thank u

  • @pixelee3890
    @pixelee3890 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Phantom hourglass was my first zelda game ever and also one of the first games i owned. The zelda series has some of my favorite games and I have so much nostalgia for them. Never finished phantom hourglass as a kid, but it has left an impact on my gaming experience :)

  • @swarple
    @swarple วันที่ผ่านมา

    I grew up in a house where no one played video games. My parents have never touched video games. I never touched a console game until I was like nine. And I’m a girl, so when I was young, most of the games I knew were the ones marketed at our demographic, like Nintendogs, and Barbie games, and the really bad Ubisoft fashion games.
    I was in fourth grade when a friend of mine found this game. She showed it to me, and I was so excited, because I had never seen anything like it. Up until this point, I really hadn’t seen video games used as a storytelling medium. The possibility of such a thing had never occurred to me. I begged my parents for this game and one day, when we were about to get in the car to take a long drive to the beach for vacation, they surprised me with a copy. I still remember sitting in the hotel lobby while they checked in, playing the game and being blown away. A lot of gamers either have gamer parents or were exposed to games from a very young age, so this is nothing new for them. But for me it was something completely novel. I don’t play Nintendo games anymore, but if it weren’t for Phantom Hourglass I don’t think I’d be the gamer I am today. So I’m indebted to it. Seriously.

  • @mikeystorm8124
    @mikeystorm8124 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You my good sir are highly underrated

  • @clownmoshpit2778
    @clownmoshpit2778 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid dude, I find a lot of small channels that make these sort of game retrospectives end up being kinda awkward and unfunny, but I think you’re doing a great job with the formula. Although link to the past on b tier is sacrilegious lmao

  • @ethfan922
    @ethfan922 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video. You covered a lot more of the game than I was expecting.

  • @penguincjp
    @penguincjp ปีที่แล้ว

    Okamiden is another DS game with an open 3D world
    I don’t think it’s quite as big as Phantom Hourglass, but still impressive
    And man, you need more subs!
    This editing is great! And the actual video is great too!
    It’s always nice to see people talk about the lesser talked about portable entries in these larger game series

  • @travischeramie
    @travischeramie ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve loved this series since I first picked out that shiny gold cartridge back in the 80’s but I agree through them all Windwaker remains my favorite. It makes me FEEL the most. Thanks for the video!

  • @TheShrimpWizard
    @TheShrimpWizard ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both phantom hourglass and spirit tracks are amazing gems

  • @alejandrobenavides766
    @alejandrobenavides766 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    About three years ago I decided to play every single-player Zelda game from start to finish, and promised to myself that I wouldn’t skip a single one… but being Wind Waker also my favorite video game of all time I couldn’t stand the DS games and ended up skipping them. You made me want to finish phantom hourglass with lowered expectations. Great vid!

  • @nelson-haha89
    @nelson-haha89 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spirit tracks was dope too. Haven't ever gone back to it, but I have so many good memories of it.

  • @typoriver3651
    @typoriver3651 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The phantom Hourglass was my first Zelda, since I never had nintendo consoles growing up. But I did have a DS!

  • @RunningRisks
    @RunningRisks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:14 was gold and earned a like

  • @seanrendall5495
    @seanrendall5495 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet video dude, appreciated a lot of your thoughts. This brought me back.
    A tip, try adding some belly energy to your voice over and a little more vocal range on emphasis

  • @captainuber3542
    @captainuber3542 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I was little I was broke and all my gaming experience was relegated to last gen consoles or gifts from relatives. I still remember my first non 2nd hand console, it was the ds lite phantom hourglass bundle. I loved that game and played it 20 times over, now after this video imma go play it again for old times sake.

    • @BigBossSalvo
      @BigBossSalvo  ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! I'm really happy to gift that nostalgia

  • @Matthew_Murray
    @Matthew_Murray ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Phantom Hourglass was my first Zelda game and I still love it

  • @TheHonoredMadman
    @TheHonoredMadman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved the hell out of this game. One of my favorite ds games right up there with rocket slime

  • @Lumix_Corrupt
    @Lumix_Corrupt ปีที่แล้ว

    Crazy that this video happens to pop into my recommended right as i’ve been playing it again in the last couple of weeks

  • @QuasiDude
    @QuasiDude ปีที่แล้ว

    Wind Waker is a huge nostalgia game for me so maybe I should check this one out
    Dope video by the way, thumbnail was so stupid funny I clicked immediately. I really appreciate the chill vibe and random shitposts lol. I'm hype for your next upload

  • @NotNoah84
    @NotNoah84 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My first ever Zelda game so it will always hold a special place in my heart

  • @corphish129
    @corphish129 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad someone finally made a video about The Legend of Zelda. Thank you, Salvo.

  • @angeldelgado2709
    @angeldelgado2709 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was my first Zelda game and I love it so much.

  • @ThaThree
    @ThaThree ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video was voiced in one take wasn't it? No worries, I loved it lol!! Great video. Subscribed!

  • @GanondorfKingofEvil
    @GanondorfKingofEvil ปีที่แล้ว

    Just randomly popped up on my front page, but I figured it'd be interesting to see what you'd say. I was in 7th-8th grade when this game came out. And I've replayed it a few times over the years. While it's been a few years since I've always been willing to defend it. It has its problems with TotOK being the biggest probably. The idea is an interesting one, but it perhaps overstayed its welcome. (Likely why Tower of Spirits in ST had you going to completely different floors directly on each revisit.)
    That being said one puzzle that has always stuck with me is when you have to close the DS to imprint the Courage symbol onto your map. It's such a Nintendo idea and I love it. The unique usage of the grapple connecting two poles for tightrope walking or jumping is also a very enjoyable experience.
    And yes. Linebeck becomes one of my favorite characters by the end of the game. (I hate fighting Bellum-Beck due to that. Feels bad man.) His growth is so interesting and I'd love for both PH and ST to get remakes with the WWHD engine they have. Would require changing some things probably for Switch, but yes please.

  • @user-zo5jp5ub7y
    @user-zo5jp5ub7y ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video man, I’m actually replaying Phantom Hourglass and it brings good memories, I was also bugged when I first played it because of the stylus gameplay, I thought I could use the directional pad to control Link but I got used to it and got in love with it, great game if you encourage the stylus mechanics.

  • @supremeturtle4620
    @supremeturtle4620 ปีที่แล้ว

    BEFORE I START THE VIDEO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR MAKING A VIDEO ON MY FAVORITE VIDEO GAME EVER. I LOVE THE MUSIC

  • @cosmicredpanda2420
    @cosmicredpanda2420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Phantom Hourglass wasn’t the first zelda game I played, but it’s accessibility made it the first in the series I managed to get past a single dungeon in. Largely because I found the controls more accessible.
    It’s too bad it’s not talked of more. While I wish the ghost ship and other elements to the antagonist where expanded on more, I still feel like your traveling companions and it’s humor carry it a long way. Heck, even Ciela manages to have a story arc of her own, even though fairy companions tend to have little focus on them.
    I do wish the scrapped concepts you mentioned made it into the game . I’m curious to see what PH would look like if those concepts were implemented as additional content along with an overhaul in the graphics and overworld.

  • @plows2940
    @plows2940 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Phantom Hourglass was actually my first Zelda game I ever played before I even knew what Zelda was. I honestly do not understand why the DS games are so maligned. The Temple of the Ocean King honestly isn’t even that bad imo and is one of my favourite dungeons in the series because of how differently you can approach it on each visit. The touch controls are honestly great and far better than the motion controls Nintendo were forcing on players with Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword. While they’re not my absolute favourite entries in the series I am rather fond of them. Frankly, Phantom Hourglass is a better sequel to the Wind Waker than Tears of the Kingdom is to Breath of the Wild.

  • @researcherchameleon4602
    @researcherchameleon4602 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was my first Zelda game, my grandma got it from the (I think she said Walmart return section, but it could also be from the local thrift store), she got it as a grab bag of other DS games in a white plastic cartridge book, and I loved this game (also, I pieced together that I could solve puzzles faster with new items immediately because I remembered the odd cracked blocks that cut off the first floor with phantoms were the same as the ones in the fire temple)

  • @station428
    @station428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wind Waker HD is my favourite video game, the GameCube version was the second Zelda game I ever played. But my first was Phantom Hourglass, and as a member of the 1% that enjoys The Temple of the Ocean King, it's part of my top 15 Zelda games :)

  • @weesedaboi8663
    @weesedaboi8663 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh nice a second person besides me who likes Phantom Hourglass!
    Jokes aside, I still remember being absolutely blown away by the finale of the game as a kid and still cherish my original cartridge to this day

  • @insidiousy
    @insidiousy ปีที่แล้ว

    This was, quite literally, the first true video game I ever played. It forever holds an amazing spot in my soul. Thank you, for the trip down memory lane.

  • @drummerofawe
    @drummerofawe ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wanted to say your Zelda game tierlist is top notch (especially as a fellow Twilight Princess enjoyer). Only difference for me is having Minish cap in high A, it's my favourite of the 2d games by quite a bit

  • @GlitchanBlack
    @GlitchanBlack 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Both Phantom Hourglass & Spirit Tracks are underrated.

  • @lolcat
    @lolcat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zelda on Gamecube is IMO the peak.
    OOT, MM, WW, TP and even 4 swords.

  • @omniscientomnipresent5500
    @omniscientomnipresent5500 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It was a big part of my childhood too! Who know, if I was thinking about it more, I may even have made a video like this. About the game actually, I had no stylus problems, didn't have any expectations for the map size, even being happy it wasn't too big because it would be too long and the ocean temple was long but at the time I was very patient and relaxed about it as I didn't have much else to play plus there's actually the teleporter, I don't know why people found it THAT long, I mean if you watch the TAS Speedrun for exemple you'll see it can be done really fast and it's not much repetitive. Tough, from the two I prefer Spirit Tracks! My least favorite parts of the game were the fog part with the fairies because it took me a lot of time to do it. Tough maybe it explained how it worked and I inadvertly skipped the line of dialogue. I just remember fairies blinking when I was far away and barely before I found it. Also, I don't remember why but I forgot to save after the earth boss? I actually fought it like five times 😂

  • @thelastcookie23
    @thelastcookie23 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every time I hear the music, my brain automatically adds Link's shouting.

  • @stefanopacetti4237
    @stefanopacetti4237 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phantom hourglass was the first Zelda I've ever played. I remember playing it over and over again, while never be able to progress the temple. Finally beaten at age 20, it feels good. It is the perfect game for a ds emulator on your phone thanks to the touch screen controls too