I love this car so much. First thing its more powerful than a bmw m4, is cheaper than a bmw m4 or any other opponent, and it looks very mean. U can say everthing you want but this car its so awsome
In the comments below, are you guys forgetting this car does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds, the same as a Lambo Gallardo, Diablo, and Ferrari F40? This is ain't our grandpa's land-yacht, velvet-clad, sofa-on-wheels Caddy by any means. The new management at Caddy include Europeans who managed BMW and Audi. They have brought a no compromise and "there's no reason we can't compete" mentality to this old brand and it's working. The ATS-V is barely slower than a Challenger Hellcat and Porsche GT2; which in hands of most drivers (lacking race driver shifting skills) would be about equal. Cadillac is only reclaiming their world mastery that we let the Europeans take from us many years ago. Cadillac made a 185hp V-16 engine in the 30's at a time when BMW's best cars only had 30-80hp. When Henne claimed the Euro-only "world speed record" in 1937 for BMW at 108mph, Cadillac already had a race car over here that did 165mph. Look it up, folks.
Well they might be great cars, I dont know since I didnt drive one but american car companys somewhat missed to set foot on the european market. While american cars are quite affordable in the US, they come with a huge pricetag here in germany since they have to be importet. There are really just a few dealerships and the ones that are here barely get to see those top of the line cars like ATS-V or CTS-V, so you dont really know if the mechanics know how to handle them. Parts are also not that cheap here. So that means that those cars are really just for enthusiasts and we tend to stick to our german companys or lately even asian companys like toyota or even hyundai(they are marketing very agressive in germany and the cars actually are compatible nowadays).
;American products are usually tarriffed to death by European Countries while the reverse is NOT the case. President Trump is pissed at that. He is changing that situation in the most egregious examples.
@@MW-bi1pi Yeah really showing them whats up. I love that move where he talks big and threatens tariffs and then backs down like a little bitch because he hasn't thought about the consequences of such an action and even his own part says "what the fuck are you doing?"...
The “secret chamber” also has a wireless phone charger in there. There’s so many inaccuracies in both your reviews of the V and the regular coupe. IMO your beating of the V design incorporated in the car is a bit odd. I have driven both BMW 3 series and the ATS. The ATS has a much better chassis than the bmw does no question about it. The ATS feels inspiring to drive and the 3 series feels like a normal car to drive. I chose the Cadillac over the BMW and do not regret it. It’s been 2 years of problem free ownership and yes I do own a BMW as well. I do like BMWs display better than the Cadillac but I like the Cadillac so much more for how it drives and the new BMW taillights look hideous. You make the Cadillac controls look so much harder to control than they really are as well, which gives a false reality of how really simple they are to operate, it’s touch control, touch or slide your finger to control them. I think BMW has a slightly better build of the interior and more room in the back seat. I bought the car to drive and the Cadillac is a drivers car. That being said, my first Cadillac purchase has been excellent.
All too often I find online reviewers parrot the specs and provide a car review based upon 10 minutes of driving the car like a drooling teenager. I appreciate the more comprehensive real-world review you provided - the look and tactile feel of exterior and interior finishes, folding down the seats and looking at the trunk, the feel and feedback on the steering wheel and yes, even hitting your head while getting into the back seat to test them out (I'm 6'4"). While the "Fun Factor" (speed, acceleration, handling) is relevant, no one drives a vehicle all-out all the time. What's the comfort and feel and sound driving down the highway like a normal person? In rush hour? Popping out to the corning store? Cost of servicing the car? Every car is a compromise in some sense due to design, factory and parts supply limitations. A person needs to look at the positives and negatives of the vehicle and decide what what it must have and what they will put up with against what they will pay. As Trades46 mentioned, European cars are generally much more expensive to service in North America vs domestic cars. So ... based upon this and other reviews I watched, on numerous test drives of this other and other cars in the segment, and running the numbers, I opted to purchase the 2018 version of the car as the best bang for my buck.
+Justin Bouche, As you said, the V out performed both Bmw & Amg 63s and yet it doesn't stack up according to just about all these guys doing a test drive. Well, it's all about money! If the ATS-V starts out selling the Germans in America, they loose a lot of money! I can't wait to get my V. I'm going to be on the look out for Bmw's and Amg 63's just to kick there butts!
You need to take this car to a windy road or to the track to truly appreciate its capabilities. While i appreciate your honesty and insight in the review, you did not do this car justice.
Great job. It's of one's taste either to chose bmw or the cadillac. I would prefer the cadillac in Europe for the sake of vanity in as you noticed everyone looks at cadillac.
This is coming from a M3 owner, this is a very good car. Great styling, nice sound and it's driving dynamics are great. Only criticism would be the interior still doesn't look as nice or high quality are BMW or Mercedes interiors are it's not easily available in Europe. Aside from that a solid performance car that anyone would enjoy.
great & cool car! love it! If I was American I would buy new Cadillac :) I love German luxury cars like Mercedes, BMW and Audi but Cadillac is so American-cool! :) Thomas is right about Transformer style of new Cadillacs.
I know GM only too well.. The cost-cutting that takes place, and the poor quality of its components. After 60k miles, the caddys fall apart. German/japanese go well beyond that. A lot of my american friends only buy german or japanese and are very satisfied
Autogefühl- my daily guilty pleasure. Felt your pain at 16.23!! Think Cadillac have improved a little. Looks quite aggressive, large quad exhausts look good, head up display nice, not mad about the glossy black steering wheel/ centre console, rear space poor for a medium large- ish car and sound is well, OK. Keep the great reviews coming.
Hello Thomas. You are rapidly becoming one of my favorite auto channels. In the last few days I've watched reviews from Willys military Jeeps, the new Panamera, the RS6 Estate to this Cadillac. Great stuff!
Haha thanks for referring to me when you mentioned the secret compartment in the interior (l was the one who told you about it)! Great review as always ;)
Great work Thomas I only watch Autogefuhl for car reviews...an indepth reviwe of the Peugeot Traveller or Citroen Space Tourer would be nice.. Was the "V3 on the German licence plate done on purpose? it's almost in the alignement of the car !
Many thanks, once again Thomas. Great review as always - excellent detail, especially in the interior for us car enthusiasts. Driving impressions were very good with some good camera angles looking forward through the windshield. Keep up the good work!
Great review. Based on other reviews, I think reviewers impression might be more positive if he was more winding and drier roads, since compared to it's mostly german direct competitors, many say the ATS is the liveliest best balanced, which you would feel less on the highway, especially in the rain.
I just wish he had it in "track" mode for the 0-200 pull. I'd bet that engaging that setting makes the shift logic and tune of the engine change so it doesn't bounce of the rev limiter.
I have an ATS-V Coupe and the consumption is very high comparing to my previous ATS, even if you try to drive gently without pushing the car to it's limits. I think that there are many V8 cars that have a lower consumption. It will not reach the mentioned average never ever!
GM should stick to small block V8 engines, even for Cadillac. This car would probably be more fuel efficient in real-world driving and probably be better all around with an LT1 powering it. A small block is definitely what GM does best.
Hey Thomas, i have a suggestion. Maybe you should start using the 360 degree feature of TH-cam to show car interiors, especially visibility in the rear. Keep up the good work.
I love the Cadillac ATS-V engine, style, I love this new aggressive direction they've taken. In American the Cadillac was this old man's car. Slow and very boat-y. It was like steering a cruise ship. But I never noticed how much the rear of this car is so boring. We have a saying, they "phoned it in". Something that was addressed by someone on the phone giving directions. Just make it square. They could have done better.
16:22 just like what you suggested, Thomas. i replayed that 5 times... LOL! i guess you would choose the M3 over this. practically the rear space is a joke. and i doubt if this thing could beat the Audi S3 sedan, in terms of everyday usability. what i find most irritating about this car is the noise pollution. i bet cadillac could turn their factories to alarm clocks production line... LOL !
Really good observation and top tips about the car Thomas. It's a bit rough and gruff in some places, but I still like it for just being an honest-to-goodness American muscle car that can nearly mix with the big guns of Germany's finest ( Mercedes Benz, BMW, Audi etc. ). It's quite a different flavor, which could be the main reason some people are going to gravitate to the Cadillac if they don't want your usual Benzes and Bimmers. Hope you can get your hands on a Toyota SF-R or a Honda 660 to review.
A really nice looking car. I would consider leasing one. I would go for the coupe, because the sedan is not made for 4 passengers. They need to fix the latency with Cue; which shouldn't be that hard.
I'm waiting on my Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglilgilgliglilglililiol. (Top Gear Style)Arriving in the States later this year, will take my dealer to court if I can't get it ;)
A car is not an investment. Come on, you should know better. I invest in properties as they increase in value and yield high returns. A car is nothing more than an expense - they cannot produce a return on investment. You spend your money and will lose your money no matter how great the resale value is.Alfafafafa Giulillaililai Quadrifoglilioliili all the way!
Johan Cha You are right that that's the way you should look at it. Especially as a car enthusiast. I applaud you for ignoring the resale value. But for other people reading this, it could still be a valid point. Especially since the alternatives are really good cars as well.
Great looking car! Great review. Impressed by the outside but the inside wasnt the greatest. I also thought it would sound a lot more agressive. Was surprised by the lack of bite from the throttle from the caddy. Overall a great car though.
Great review as always. Is there any chance you could review a standard European-spec Cadillac CTS? I'm hoping to pick a used one up in a couple of years, probably from Germany and drive it down.
To compete with M4, ATS-V still has a lot of rooms to improve, The body shakes a lot when over 180. Look at Audi S4 running on 230 from the other video.
As an owner of an Ats-v, and previously owning an M4... the V out performs the M in every way. And I've never had any shaking. Where did you get that information?
And one more comment, did you notice the gear down shift while going to a full stop? When down shifting to the first gear with full stop, the car hesitate and kinda push forward. I asked the technician and they said that it's normal!
Interested in the German opinion of top quality American cars regarding price of ownership and servicing-- as in America for example Audi, Porsche, BMW, Mercedes are not only expensive to purchase but very high price for regular service... so in each country- the import comes with premium price- but is it worth it? Does the high price import bring a unique social appeal in Germany ...it certainly does in America, where the badge of the car shows your social status because everyone understands the cost of ownership associated with a German car?Are there any enthusiasts in Germany who would buy a Corvette or Shelby Mustang or Camaro or Cadillac for the panache of owning a unique foreign car?
cipanker you are an idiot. You don't have performance numbers. You don't really compare it to other models directly. You don't even have precise comparisons. Arrogant and presumptious. And rainy weather? I live in the rainiest part of the US. European cars are well made. Import tariffs make parts unaffordable. I hope it's not the same for Germans. For years Germans said American cars were too softly sprung. Oh dear god now you have an American car with a stiff suspension. We eventually learn and dominate. The "V" in Cadillac stands for victory, vanquish, and velocity... you're welcome
Will Thompson WILL THOMPSON YOU ARE AN IDIOT :) what the hack ? : safe your opinion about the usa and german car comparison to somebody else, I had never made any such comparison nor discredit Cadilliac. My comment is about laughing at Thomas bump his head on the car. Btw I am laughing my ass of on how weird can a being can be, but if it is a mistake then don't mind the "IDIOT" retaliation. :)
I've owned my V for nearly 3 years, and have to say, it's one of the best cars I've ever driven... If you get a chance to drive it again, drive it around in the base Race mode on your favorite, tight back roads. It dulls the throttle input a bit to make control more fluid. There is a sub-menu that becomes available once you've entered Race mode that allows you to completely turn of traction and stability control, but it's buried so deep, you can't accidentally select it. Race mode in the primary menu is perfectly safe for everyday driving.
I like this car. The exterior is to my taste, although I understand it won't be for everyone. An advantage over here in Europe is that this is a rare car, so you're also driving something different. I like the interior too, though not as much as the exterior. It's up against some really stiff German competition though. The C63 has this lovely V8 engine and a great interior. On top of that the Caddy is 15000 euros more expensive than the C63 over here in the Netherlands, due to the relatively high CO2 emissions from the Cadillac. Then is becomes an easy choice for me, I don't really need to have a 'different' car! :-) That said, I would probably prefer to take a step down in power because this is overkill for me. A C-class C43 or an S4 have plenty of power for me and are considerably less expensive.
I Personally dont like gm cars. Any of them. But maybe like a few select ones. Definitely give Cadillac its flowers and would buy a few. I don't know if to get this in the coupe or sedan version. But look good and impressive
well the team that developed the CTS-V are from Australia.. GM's Aussie division makes the Holden brand.. with the Commodore SSV that has the 'vette engine. These cars really handle fabulous.. they put power to the ground better than most American sports cars and out-handle many European counterparts, and are dirt inexpensive. I'm sure there must be some magic from down under in the ATS-V.
I can't find any sort of nationality breakdown regarding GM's development team. About the only information readily available is that the cheif engineer for this car and the CTS-V are american. If anyone says they're german, I'd love to see a source.
Johan Cha Well it's no secret that the SS is a Commodore, but I just rewatched that video and it said nothing of the CTS-V or any Holden involvement in it. Likewise no write-up on their site said so either. Are you sure it was KBB?
It's faster 0-100, more powerfull, full of carbon parts and cheaper then bmw m3 but u always say oh nein nein bmw is better. Why u don't say truth this cadillac is better than M3 and c63
@Don Boss I used to work for BMW corporate. They have plenty of issues. I would get a new BMW every 3 months to drive for free. They aren't anything special.
In Canada, the ATS-V cost about the same as a CLA45 AMG, or about ~$20,000 cheaper than the equal C63 AMG. I smack my head against the CLA rear doors and I cannot sit behind myself in that car either; sad the A-klasse is not offered here. Is it as good as the C63? I say no, but it is much less expensive and comes better loaded and you lose nothing in performance. Also German cars in North America are REALLY expensive to service, something American cars are cheaper.
From a technological standpoint the ATS-V is superior to the C63s and beats it in all performance areas. Better chassis, magnetic suspension, plethora of stability modes which are more advanced. The merc has a better interior, better sound out of that TTV8. As you pointed out $20k more plus $$ servicing is something to definitely consider.
Johan Cha The trip computer in the review says the best fuel economy that someone actually got was 6.8 l / 100km. Thomas said it's totally unrealistic, and it is true. My fuel economy is just further proof.
While I'm not saying it's impossible, I feel (especially with my driving style) the 6.8l/100km figure is somewhat crazy for this car. I have a 6sp manual ATS-V sedan w/approx 8100miles (~13000kms) on it and my averages are as follows: last 450mi/724.2km: avg: 22.9mpg-10.27l/100km best: 25.7mpg-9.15l/100km last 50mi/80.5km: avg: 17.0mpg-13.84/100km best: 29.8mpg-7.89/100km last 25mi/40.2km: avg: 19.0mpg-12.38/100km best: 31.1mpg-7.56/100km
honestly, did anyone commenting here in favor or against this car really drive it and tested it, compared it to other similar cars? Does anyone have genuine experience?
I'm a big fan of older American cars when they were not even trying to compete with european cars, big V8 was enough back then lol. This one looks too much like a kids' toy, maybe I'm still thinking the old Cadillacs and can't get around that ;-)
Cadillac doesn't sell well in America anymore, only about 250,000 units or so last year. BMW and Mercedes sold over 350,000 units in America last year. While I do like the distinctive styling It just doesn't have the brand cache that the Europeans or Asians carry. I have had 3 Audis and now drive a current generation BMW 535 X-drive and absolutely love it for it's driving character, quality and prestige. Cadillacs also tend to have a lower long-term dependability rating as well.
HI Thomas great review as always👍👍👍I would buy this car if you paid me. the American design of car's are nonexistence. no lines, looks like a brick. I rather buy Mercedes c class or BMW m3 or the new alpha romeo.😑😑
Love the exterior but no the rear, interior is great but bad the infotainment is really shit, the engine is great too but the transmision (the same transmision like the last corvette?) the way to go but not the perfection like german cars... Thanks for the vídeo from Spain!
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Hallo, What I wanted to say was that I would like to see you going "pedal to the metal". 220 Km/h seemed too slow for autobahn. I should have been more specific. Sorry about that and thank you for making the reviews in english.
I wonder if it's like a typical GM car, meaning: every time you drive it, another part of the interior starts rattling. I guess that's true, since even a brand new ATS in the showroom is super rattly and every plastic piece in the interior squeaks when you press if with your finger. And what's with the same indicator stalks and buttons as the Opel Corsa has or any other cheap Gm car has?
Surprised to see so many people like the look. I mean how bad does the rear look compared to the germans, square, boxy, the tail lights look like they were slapped on the side, the spoiler... just looks old fashioned and badly put together. Like a really bad abstract painting, okay at least its symmetrical. I mean even a mazda RX7 from the 90s looks better than this. Seriously thats not the strongest point of american cars. Looks abhorrent mate, I wouldnt buy this car precisely because of how it looks.
I love this car so much. First thing its more powerful than a bmw m4, is cheaper than a bmw m4 or any other opponent, and it looks very mean. U can say everthing you want but this car its so awsome
With the six-speed manual this car is nearcperfect.
In the comments below, are you guys forgetting this car does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds, the same as a Lambo Gallardo, Diablo, and Ferrari F40? This is ain't our grandpa's land-yacht, velvet-clad, sofa-on-wheels Caddy by any means. The new management at Caddy include Europeans who managed BMW and Audi. They have brought a no compromise and "there's no reason we can't compete" mentality to this old brand and it's working. The ATS-V is barely slower than a Challenger Hellcat and Porsche GT2; which in hands of most drivers (lacking race driver shifting skills) would be about equal.
Cadillac is only reclaiming their world mastery that we let the Europeans take from us many years ago. Cadillac made a 185hp V-16 engine in the 30's at a time when BMW's best cars only had 30-80hp. When Henne claimed the Euro-only "world speed record" in 1937 for BMW at 108mph, Cadillac already had a race car over here that did 165mph. Look it up, folks.
Well they might be great cars, I dont know since I didnt drive one but american car companys somewhat missed to set foot on the european market.
While american cars are quite affordable in the US, they come with a huge pricetag here in germany since they have to be importet.
There are really just a few dealerships and the ones that are here barely get to see those top of the line cars like ATS-V or CTS-V, so you dont really know if the mechanics know how to handle them.
Parts are also not that cheap here.
So that means that those cars are really just for enthusiasts and we tend to stick to our german companys or lately even asian companys like toyota or even hyundai(they are marketing very agressive in germany and the cars actually are compatible nowadays).
;American products are usually tarriffed to death by European Countries while the reverse is NOT the case. President Trump is pissed at that. He is changing that situation in the most egregious examples.
@@MW-bi1pi Yeah really showing them whats up. I love that move where he talks big and threatens tariffs and then backs down like a little bitch because he hasn't thought about the consequences of such an action and even his own part says "what the fuck are you doing?"...
The “secret chamber” also has a wireless phone charger in there. There’s so many inaccuracies in both your reviews of the V and the regular coupe. IMO your beating of the V design incorporated in the car is a bit odd. I have driven both BMW 3 series and the ATS. The ATS has a much better chassis than the bmw does no question about it. The ATS feels inspiring to drive and the 3 series feels like a normal car to drive. I chose the Cadillac over the BMW and do not regret it. It’s been 2 years of problem free ownership and yes I do own a BMW as well. I do like BMWs display better than the Cadillac but I like the Cadillac so much more for how it drives and the new BMW taillights look hideous. You make the Cadillac controls look so much harder to control than they really are as well, which gives a false reality of how really simple they are to operate, it’s touch control, touch or slide your finger to control them. I think BMW has a slightly better build of the interior and more room in the back seat. I bought the car to drive and the Cadillac is a drivers car. That being said, my first Cadillac purchase has been excellent.
New cadillacs are arguably just as much as a show peice
This guys has the best car reviews. He's just so laid back about it all. 👍🏻
thanks man! Spread the word for us !
All too often I find online reviewers parrot the specs and provide a car review based upon 10 minutes of driving the car like a drooling teenager. I appreciate the more comprehensive real-world review you provided - the look and tactile feel of exterior and interior finishes, folding down the seats and looking at the trunk, the feel and feedback on the steering wheel and yes, even hitting your head while getting into the back seat to test them out (I'm 6'4"). While the "Fun Factor" (speed, acceleration, handling) is relevant, no one drives a vehicle all-out all the time. What's the comfort and feel and sound driving down the highway like a normal person? In rush hour? Popping out to the corning store? Cost of servicing the car? Every car is a compromise in some sense due to design, factory and parts supply limitations. A person needs to look at the positives and negatives of the vehicle and decide what what it must have and what they will put up with against what they will pay. As Trades46 mentioned, European cars are generally much more expensive to service in North America vs domestic cars. So ... based upon this and other reviews I watched, on numerous test drives of this other and other cars in the segment, and running the numbers, I opted to purchase the 2018 version of the car as the best bang for my buck.
great that you joined us! And enjoy ur ATS :)
Autogefuehl with Thomas... in full hd, full screen, full length and.... full commitment :D
way to go!
Aww this car looks amazing first time i saw this car i was in love!
Nice thing is the Cadillac comes with working turn indicators. ;-)
despite anything else.....WHAT a looker !
I'm pretty sure, this guy is Superman.
+Sang Eeth 🏋🏼
These are more underrated from the factory than the M3/4s by the way. They are actually producing close to 470 hp at the wheels.
No matter what car I'm looking for, there's always a review by Autogefühl. Good job Thomas!
always in your service, my friend!
+Justin Bouche, As you said, the V out performed both Bmw & Amg 63s and yet it doesn't stack up according to just about all these guys doing a test drive. Well, it's all about money! If the ATS-V starts out selling the Germans in America, they loose a lot of money! I can't wait to get my V. I'm going to be on the look out for Bmw's and Amg 63's just to kick there butts!
You need to take this car to a windy road or to the track to truly appreciate its capabilities. While i appreciate your honesty and insight in the review, you did not do this car justice.
+Don't SSleep and that is why?
@@autogefuehl Because the true strength of this car is when you can load it up with some lateral g's and destroy corners.
It's not a BMW, that's why it's awesome ! :)
Great job. It's of one's taste either to chose bmw or the cadillac. I would prefer the cadillac in Europe for the sake of vanity in as you noticed everyone looks at cadillac.
This is coming from a M3 owner, this is a very good car. Great styling, nice sound and it's driving dynamics are great. Only criticism would be the interior still doesn't look as nice or high quality are BMW or Mercedes interiors are it's not easily available in Europe. Aside from that a solid performance car that anyone would enjoy.
thanks for the feedback !
/// M the interior of let’s just say the bmw 3m is not a quality as Cadillac... bmw leather cracks too easily and wrinkles as well
excellent review Thomas I like the way you test everything in cars all the details
love to hear that, stay tuned! GLC 43 tonight
great & cool car! love it! If I was American I would buy new Cadillac :) I love German luxury cars like Mercedes, BMW and Audi but Cadillac is so American-cool! :) Thomas is right about Transformer style of new Cadillacs.
I am American and Im only waiting for the Alfa Romeo Giulia. I don't buy American cars.. ever... never have.. never will. :)
Johan Cha ok, but why not? I know many Americans who own American cars and are happy.
I know GM only too well.. The cost-cutting that takes place, and the poor quality of its components. After 60k miles, the caddys fall apart. German/japanese go well beyond that.
A lot of my american friends only buy german or japanese and are very satisfied
Sweet man I'm South African and owned a few American cars too,they are amazing
Johan Cha lies i have a cts 2010 and i changed my transmission oil at 125k miles and not one speck of metal on the plug.
Autogefühl- my daily guilty pleasure. Felt your pain at 16.23!!
Think Cadillac have improved a little. Looks quite aggressive, large quad exhausts look good, head up display nice, not mad about the glossy black steering wheel/ centre console, rear space poor for a medium large- ish car and sound is well, OK. Keep the great reviews coming.
+Drew B 👌
Thanks for taking that hit for us viewers, haha. Interesting car and nice review, as usual!
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A mini movie of the ats v , this is good stuff, i want one now.
Hello Thomas. You are rapidly becoming one of my favorite auto channels. In the last few days I've watched reviews from Willys military Jeeps, the new Panamera, the RS6 Estate to this Cadillac. Great stuff!
+two3D 👌
Haha thanks for referring to me when you mentioned the secret compartment in the interior (l was the one who told you about it)! Great review as always ;)
well done m8 - great that you joined us again :) and thanks!
The wireless charging pad inside the secret compartment wasnt mentioned.
Great work Thomas I only watch Autogefuhl for car reviews...an indepth reviwe of the Peugeot Traveller or Citroen Space Tourer would be nice.. Was the "V3 on the German licence plate done on purpose? it's almost in the alignement of the car !
hehe dont know about the V3 =)
Those Tourers will follow in autumn!
Nice review. You are giving a German perspective on a North American vehicle. I own a 2015 coupe (manual transmission) in Toronto Canada!
Many thanks, once again Thomas. Great review as always - excellent detail, especially in the interior for us car enthusiasts. Driving impressions were very good with some good camera angles looking forward through the windshield. Keep up the good work!
+gordon bennett 👏
best ever car review just because of the head banging incident lol keep up the awesome work Thomas and of course keep your head in one piece lol
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Great review. Based on other reviews, I think reviewers impression might be more positive if he was more winding and drier roads, since compared to it's mostly german direct competitors, many say the ATS is the liveliest best balanced, which you would feel less on the highway, especially in the rain.
thanks for the feedback!
thomas is doing awesone job as always haha 😎😎
I just wish he had it in "track" mode for the 0-200 pull. I'd bet that engaging that setting makes the shift logic and tune of the engine change so it doesn't bounce of the rev limiter.
I really enjoy you're in depth reviews 👍🏽
way to go !
13:43 "i'm not really sure if i'm the biggest fan..." *taps on the fan button... YOU PUNNY MAN Hahahah
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and by the way its sound incredible
I have an ATS-V Coupe and the consumption is very high comparing to my previous ATS, even if you try to drive gently without pushing the car to it's limits. I think that there are many V8 cars that have a lower consumption. It will not reach the mentioned average never ever!
indeed. It was at 11 l / 100 km now with only autobahn riding btw.
GM should stick to small block V8 engines, even for Cadillac. This car would probably be more fuel efficient in real-world driving and probably be better all around with an LT1 powering it. A small block is definitely what GM does best.
Hey Thomas, i have a suggestion. Maybe you should start using the 360 degree feature of TH-cam to show car interiors, especially visibility in the rear.
Keep up the good work.
+T - Ron hey m8, yt search autogefuehl 360 u ll find a test video
I love the Cadillac ATS-V engine, style, I love this new aggressive direction they've taken. In American the Cadillac was this old man's car. Slow and very boat-y. It was like steering a cruise ship. But I never noticed how much the rear of this car is so boring. We have a saying, they "phoned it in". Something that was addressed by someone on the phone giving directions. Just make it square. They could have done better.
In the "Secret Chamber" it is a wireless charging pad for your phone.
He has an iPhone 😬🙃
16:22 just like what you suggested, Thomas. i replayed that 5 times... LOL!
i guess you would choose the M3 over this. practically the rear space is a joke.
and i doubt if this thing could beat the Audi S3 sedan, in terms of everyday usability.
what i find most irritating about this car is the noise pollution. i bet cadillac could turn their factories to alarm clocks production line... LOL !
+calvin shaw haha :)
off topic Thomas when are you going to get your hands on the new Audi TTRS????? CAN hardly wait for that review??
September!
Really good observation and top tips about the car Thomas. It's a bit rough and gruff in some places, but I still like it for just being an honest-to-goodness American muscle car that can nearly mix with the big guns of Germany's finest ( Mercedes Benz, BMW, Audi etc. ). It's quite a different flavor, which could be the main reason some people are going to gravitate to the Cadillac if they don't want your usual Benzes and Bimmers.
Hope you can get your hands on a Toyota SF-R or a Honda 660 to review.
+metring073 indeed! Hm afraid those arent sold here :/
.. you also just released a Cadillac CT6 ( surround sound preview.. ) will a full review be also included?
Love this Channel👍🏻 Thomas❤️
+Stawberry Berry 🏎
For those who wanna hear the engine straight away go to 33:55
A really nice looking car. I would consider leasing one. I would go for the coupe, because the sedan is not made for 4 passengers. They need to fix the latency with Cue; which shouldn't be that hard.
gakenh01 i heard it was updates and the coupe has a really nice butt 😀
FML!! A 50min review!!!
Thomas can i ask you, if you had the money would go with a brand new ATS-V or a low milage used BMW M3?
m3
I'm waiting on my Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglilgilgliglilglililiol. (Top Gear Style)Arriving in the States later this year, will take my dealer to court if I can't get it ;)
Beautiful car. Drives pretty well too it I have to believe the reviews. I wonder if it will keep value though.... Probably won't.
A car is not an investment. Come on, you should know better. I invest in properties as they increase in value and yield high returns. A car is nothing more than an expense - they cannot produce a return on investment. You spend your money and will lose your money no matter how great the resale value is.Alfafafafa Giulillaililai Quadrifoglilioliili all the way!
Johan Cha You are right that that's the way you should look at it. Especially as a car enthusiast. I applaud you for ignoring the resale value. But for other people reading this, it could still be a valid point. Especially since the alternatives are really good cars as well.
Great looking car! Great review. Impressed by the outside but the inside wasnt the greatest. I also thought it would sound a lot more agressive. Was surprised by the lack of bite from the throttle from the caddy. Overall a great car though.
thanks Ante !
very good review
+Eric Stefko 👍
"I'm not sure if I'm the biggest fan" - says pointing at the fan button.... GOOD ONE :)
=)
der "böse gummi" bei 39:50 ist gut :)
Does the ATSV 3.6 weigh same a s ATSV 2.0? I don’t understand the optional stick use even though I’ve had many stick cars
the sound his head made when he hit the door frame
Great review as always. Is there any chance you could review a standard European-spec Cadillac CTS? I'm hoping to pick a used one up in a couple of years, probably from Germany and drive it down.
+Tarik El-Yabani i ll see what i can do! Meanwhile check the ats basis video
To compete with M4, ATS-V still has a lot of rooms to improve, The body shakes a lot when over 180. Look at Audi S4 running on 230 from the other video.
that is because the suspension is more tuned and stiffer it has nothing to do with improvement.
As an owner of an Ats-v, and previously owning an M4... the V out performs the M in every way. And I've never had any shaking. Where did you get that information?
Thumbs Up! Great review Thomas! i love american cars (i am american :D) but in this case i would definetely choose the s4/s5 or rs4/rs5
thanks buddy!
And one more comment, did you notice the gear down shift while going to a full stop?
When down shifting to the first gear with full stop, the car hesitate and kinda push forward. I asked the technician and they said that it's normal!
yeah the shifting is sometimes a little bit strange indeed!
Interested in the German opinion of top quality American cars regarding price of ownership and servicing-- as in America for example Audi, Porsche, BMW, Mercedes are not only expensive to purchase but very high price for regular service... so in each country- the import comes with premium price- but is it worth it? Does the high price import bring a unique social appeal in Germany ...it certainly does in America, where the badge of the car shows your social status because everyone understands the cost of ownership associated with a German car?Are there any enthusiasts in Germany who would buy a Corvette or Shelby Mustang or Camaro or Cadillac for the panache of owning a unique foreign car?
16:23 The best part
:D
just so you know I didn't replay it 5 times but only two times, :) anyway as always, great review, Thomas.
cipanker you are an idiot. You don't have performance numbers. You don't really compare it to other models directly. You don't even have precise comparisons. Arrogant and presumptious. And rainy weather? I live in the rainiest part of the US. European cars are well made. Import tariffs make parts unaffordable. I hope it's not the same for Germans. For years Germans said American cars were too softly sprung. Oh dear god now you have an American car with a stiff suspension. We eventually learn and dominate. The "V" in Cadillac stands for victory, vanquish, and velocity... you're welcome
Will Thompson WILL THOMPSON YOU ARE AN IDIOT :) what the hack ? : safe your opinion about the usa and german car comparison to somebody else, I had never made any such comparison nor discredit Cadilliac.
My comment is about laughing at Thomas bump his head on the car.
Btw I am laughing my ass of on how weird can a being can be, but if it is a mistake then don't mind the "IDIOT" retaliation. :)
I've owned my V for nearly 3 years, and have to say, it's one of the best cars I've ever driven...
If you get a chance to drive it again, drive it around in the base Race mode on your favorite, tight back roads. It dulls the throttle input a bit to make control more fluid. There is a sub-menu that becomes available once you've entered Race mode that allows you to completely turn of traction and stability control, but it's buried so deep, you can't accidentally select it. Race mode in the primary menu is perfectly safe for everyday driving.
thanks for the report!!
Kevin Putthoff how does it feel when you step on it ? Insane ? Hahaha I’m thinking of buying one I have my eye on this car
It sounds like it's squeeling or something after you rev it at 19:28
yeah some strange things sometimes happen with this car =)
I like this car. The exterior is to my taste, although I understand it won't be for everyone. An advantage over here in Europe is that this is a rare car, so you're also driving something different. I like the interior too, though not as much as the exterior.
It's up against some really stiff German competition though. The C63 has this lovely V8 engine and a great interior. On top of that the Caddy is 15000 euros more expensive than the C63 over here in the Netherlands, due to the relatively high CO2 emissions from the Cadillac. Then is becomes an easy choice for me, I don't really need to have a 'different' car! :-)
That said, I would probably prefer to take a step down in power because this is overkill for me. A C-class C43 or an S4 have plenty of power for me and are considerably less expensive.
yeah c43 is a good choice !
Please can you do a review of the Fiat punto 2017? Thanx
you mean Fiat Tipo ? th-cam.com/video/QnD-RSTOc0A/w-d-xo.html
I Personally dont like gm cars. Any of them. But maybe like a few select ones. Definitely give Cadillac its flowers and would buy a few. I don't know if to get this in the coupe or sedan version. But look good and impressive
Is it true that the people behind the driving dynamics of this car are all German engineers?
well the team that developed the CTS-V are from Australia.. GM's Aussie division makes the Holden brand.. with the Commodore SSV that has the 'vette engine. These cars really handle fabulous.. they put power to the ground better than most American sports cars and out-handle many European counterparts, and are dirt inexpensive. I'm sure there must be some magic from down under in the ATS-V.
I can't find any sort of nationality breakdown regarding GM's development team. About the only information readily available is that the cheif engineer for this car and the CTS-V are american. If anyone says they're german, I'd love to see a source.
check out Kelly Blue Book's review of the Chevy SS sedan, they quote a reference to Holden's team, and also add in the CTS-V as a comment.
Johan Cha
Well it's no secret that the SS is a Commodore, but I just rewatched that video and it said nothing of the CTS-V or any Holden involvement in it. Likewise no write-up on their site said so either. Are you sure it was KBB?
Try the fast lane daily. And motortrend or road and track. Some where the truth will be disclosed
I want to get the cts v as a first car but not sure
I LOVE OPEN SPEED ROADS IN GERMANY
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It's faster 0-100, more powerfull, full of carbon parts and cheaper then bmw m3 but u always say oh nein nein bmw is better. Why u don't say truth this cadillac is better than M3 and c63
where did I say M3 is better
@Don Boss it destroys the C63, and the M3/4 on the track, in the figure 8, braking, 0-60, quarter mile, in every performance metric.
@Don Boss I used to work for BMW corporate. They have plenty of issues. I would get a new BMW every 3 months to drive for free. They aren't anything special.
ATS > 3 series
The ATS is the better drivers car, although the 3 series has a bigger back seat.
The headlights remind me of a Nissan GTR, but I wouldn't say it's anywhere near as nice looking as an M3.
The facelifted version will probably solve all the problems.
In Canada, the ATS-V cost about the same as a CLA45 AMG, or about ~$20,000 cheaper than the equal C63 AMG. I smack my head against the CLA rear doors and I cannot sit behind myself in that car either; sad the A-klasse is not offered here.
Is it as good as the C63? I say no, but it is much less expensive and comes better loaded and you lose nothing in performance. Also German cars in North America are REALLY expensive to service, something American cars are cheaper.
From a technological standpoint the ATS-V is superior to the C63s and beats it in all performance areas. Better chassis, magnetic suspension, plethora of stability modes which are more advanced. The merc has a better interior, better sound out of that TTV8. As you pointed out $20k more plus $$ servicing is something to definitely consider.
here it is not really that cheaper, but when its 20k less in a market yes indeed thats a huge argument
6.8 liters / 100km would be a dream with a car like this. My avarage is 8.2 with a Focus mk1 1.6 petrol. Heavy right foot?
it's a 3.6-litre V6 rather than the 6.2-litre V8 from the old CTS-V that gets 14 mpg (I think about 15-20 l/100km)
Johan Cha The trip computer in the review says the best fuel economy that someone actually got was 6.8 l / 100km. Thomas said it's totally unrealistic, and it is true. My fuel economy is just further proof.
While I'm not saying it's impossible, I feel (especially with my driving style) the 6.8l/100km figure is somewhat crazy for this car. I have a 6sp manual ATS-V sedan w/approx 8100miles (~13000kms) on it and my averages are as follows:
last 450mi/724.2km: avg: 22.9mpg-10.27l/100km best: 25.7mpg-9.15l/100km
last 50mi/80.5km: avg: 17.0mpg-13.84/100km best: 29.8mpg-7.89/100km
last 25mi/40.2km: avg: 19.0mpg-12.38/100km best: 31.1mpg-7.56/100km
are you in america or germany? why is the driver seat on left hand?
because Europe drives on the same side we do.
+kurt roepke really? I always thought the opposite for some reason
the UK and Ireland drive on the opposite not continental Europe.
Wow....
Heh, chill. Not everyone is familiar with car layouts in different continents.
R u ok Thomas? I felt it on my side :0
hehe thx m8 i m ok =)
why didn't you test a 6speed manual version, I think it would be more interesting...😀
no influence on the transmission of the car, especially when it's a manufacturer with a tiny press fleet
44:56 what stop sign??
honestly, did anyone commenting here in favor or against this car really drive it and tested it, compared it to other similar cars? Does anyone have genuine experience?
need for cadillac ct6
I'm a big fan of older American cars when they were not even trying to compete with european cars, big V8 was enough back then lol. This one looks too much like a kids' toy, maybe I'm still thinking the old Cadillacs and can't get around that ;-)
I hope your head is OK! :)
i m fine thx =)
Cadillac doesn't sell well in America anymore, only about 250,000 units or so last year. BMW and Mercedes sold over 350,000 units in America last year. While I do like the distinctive styling It just doesn't have the brand cache that the Europeans or Asians carry. I have had 3 Audis and now drive a current generation BMW 535 X-drive and absolutely love it for it's driving character, quality and prestige. Cadillacs also tend to have a lower long-term dependability rating as well.
interesting!
I didn’t care for the way the ass skittles. My ATSV 2.0 v does the same but I did the same with an e series mercedes
Warum Machtduell deine Reviews nicht auf deutsch?
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
+Tarzan die welt schaut zu! :)
HI Thomas great review as always👍👍👍I would buy this car if you paid me. the American design of car's are nonexistence. no lines, looks like a brick. I rather buy Mercedes c class or BMW m3 or the new alpha romeo.😑😑
+Michael Lui sorry no budget for that :)
All the above mentioned vehicles are very nice.....but as an Ats-v owner I typically enjoy viewing them in my rearview mirror.
Love the exterior but no the rear, interior is great but bad the infotainment is really shit, the engine is great too but the transmision (the same transmision like the last corvette?) the way to go but not the perfection like german cars... Thanks for the vídeo from Spain!
+Jota García gracias!
Needs a small block. Hopefully we'll see ATS-V+ with one under the hood.
lmao @ 18:20
Like the video, but what I really hate are these glossy parts in the interior. It looks cheap. Are the car producers nuts?
😕 I don't need nor deserve a car that goes 330mph, and neither do you!😋
Warum deutscher Kanalname u dann in Englisch? Schade denn das Auto interessiert mich sehr.
Als Service für Deutsche Zuschauer, die lieber (auch) auf Deutsch schauen möchten, haben wir hier nun angefangen, auch deutsche Videos zu produzieren: youtube.com/@AutogefuhlDeutsch-qp1ze?sub_confirmation=1
AUTOBAHN !!! Where ist der autobahn ?!
did you check the whole review ?
Hallo,
What I wanted to say was that I would like to see you going "pedal to the metal". 220 Km/h seemed too slow for autobahn. I should have been more specific. Sorry about that and thank you for making the reviews in english.
It’s almost perfect. Except for a few things. The interior, the gauges and the horrible sounding engine.
I fall asleep
klingt ja ein bisschen wie ein AMG...
I wonder if it's like a typical GM car, meaning: every time you drive it, another part of the interior starts rattling. I guess that's true, since even a brand new ATS in the showroom is super rattly and every plastic piece in the interior squeaks when you press if with your finger. And what's with the same indicator stalks and buttons as the Opel Corsa has or any other cheap Gm car has?
I have 20,000 km on mine and it produces zero rattles.
My ATS is a 2014 and has 0 rattles.
That gauge cluster...so boring. And please GM replace the cue system already!
How is possible that you film an cadillac, when cadillac has gone of Europe?
Cadillacs always were in Europe, but Sadly they sell very poor
+Timmy Picton indeed, chevrolet left but cadillac stayed
So whats your opinion on the ATS-V, is it a real contender to the c63 and M3? I can pick one up fully loaded for under $67k here in Canada
But in Spain the mark has left of here.
I wouldn't buthink this car😑😑
Surprised to see so many people like the look. I mean how bad does the rear look compared to the germans, square, boxy, the tail lights look like they were slapped on the side, the spoiler... just looks old fashioned and badly put together. Like a really bad abstract painting, okay at least its symmetrical. I mean even a mazda RX7 from the 90s looks better than this. Seriously thats not the strongest point of american cars. Looks abhorrent mate, I wouldnt buy this car precisely because of how it looks.
Manly car.