Rivals: BMW M3 vs. Mercedes C63 AMG vs. Cadillac ATS-V
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ม.ค. 2016
- www.theroadshow.com
We push BMW's M3, Mercedes' C63 AMG and Cadillac's ATS-V on street and track to see who builds the best premium compact sport sedan for the modern age. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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you can get a slightly used ats-v for $40,000 and for literally under $1000 install a tune that takes it up to 600hp alone with nothing else. the caddy has forged internals and titanium rods, it can handle alot of power. super underrated car
I’m curious. What tune takes it to 600hp?
@@jetdriver more like 550whp and 520ish torque. It makes power easily from just a tune because of the oem turbos. Just add more boost.
Doing that right now, bought a 2017 coupe and doing a Trifecta tune
@@Reecesavage-Alwayswin You can do the same to the M4, you know.
@@johnulmer1622 Im fully aware of that.
I think it's cool as hell that Caddy has been able to do both very well, offer luxury and performance. Good for GM.
Then they go and ruin it🤦🏽♂️
@@MandusahRamirez How??
@@kevinwilliams2275 Look at the lineup. They Discontinued the CT6 right after they perfected it with the BlackWing V8 which was the best car Cadillac built in 50 years. Then they renamed the CTS & ATS then watered them down.. They have no 7Series or S Class competitor anymore now the CTS replacement CT5 is competing with 3series instead of 5series like before and ATS which is CT4 is competing with A3 & CLA. I wish they stick with a name and just improve on it instead of ruining a good thing trying to reinvent their brand..
@@MandusahRamirez Ya you have been looking into this more then me, I'm a Corvette enthusiast/owner so I pay more attention to them but I did consider a CTS-V and I still think they are friggen awesome. See I thought the Blackwing was not yet designated. Isn't the CTS-V still available?? 700+ hp Our local dealer had a couple of them last summer, over a 100k each and sold them both. I never heard much about the CT6, I guess the spotlight was on the CTS-V. Interesting.
@@kevinwilliams2275 Man you really have some research to do dude! Haha. The CTS and CTS-V were discontinued after 2019 so if you're gonna buy one new you have to buy a 2019 now before they're gone. Same thing with the ATS, ATS-V and the CT6. The CT6-V with the Blackwing was only available in 2019 for the last production year of the CT6. The CTS and ATS respectively have been replaced with the new CT5 and CT4. Each of those cars were released with V versions, although the V versions are now technically the old "V-Sport" trims from the CTS and ATS as the CT4V and CT5V are equipped with tuned I4 and V6 engines. The replacement for the old V trims are coming soon and will be called the CT4 V-Blackwing and CT5 V-Blackwing. Still, to add to the confusion, neither will have the actual blackwing engine, they'll both have tuned versions of the engines from the outgoing CTS V and ATS V. If you're confused about anything feel free to consult me and I'll help lol. I'm a pretty big Cadillac geek.
Finally, Real car enthusiasts vote the Cadillac ATS-V a winner. All it needs is a volume knob. Why didn't the Audi A4 show up to the party?
+Curtis Reid Because the A4 isn't a Sport Luxury Sedan. For an Audi to be in here you'd need to drive the RS7, and that's still a little over the top for this.
+Curtis Reid We, the Americans, don't get the RS4.
+Trap Nation No... you don't need to get a RS7 LOL. You would get a S5 if anything.
+Curtis Reid because an RS4, if I remember correctly, only comes in the form of an estate car, and RS5 as a coupe :) (at least the latest generation was like that I think)
+Curtis Reid there is the RS4 but I think they´re in the middle of a generation transition (A4, S4, RS4), besides I think RS4 is not available in the american market
These dudes acted like they were SCARED to state the obvious. What is it with these auto media guys? Are they afraid of not being invited to drive future German models if they tell the truth? For $71k it was a no brainer to pick the ATS-V as the winner. The M3 interior looks like it belongs in a $25k Mazda model. Also, the ATS-V has real carbon fiber trim, not imitation trim as the one guy suggested when he was bashing the ATS interior. The funny thing about criticizing the glossy trim in the ATS is that there is similar trim offered on the center console of the C class on some models- this test car just happened not to have it.
+Sheth Jones I'll let you in on the honest truth why - Mercedes and BMW spoil auto journalists so much, and if they give their cars a bad review they will not invite them back. When I say spoil, I mean things like fully paid trips to exotic race tracks and locations to review their cars - and if you don't follow up with a glowing positive review, you are black listed. Many gave the Mercedes CLA amazing reviews, but "off the record" admit that the car is a half baked and extremely over priced piece of shit that is no better than a Kia. Look it up...
+Malicious SRT interesting concept there. I guess they feel domestic brands are desperate for press coverage and will not omit them from product launches regardless of how the vehicles are reviewed. I definitely find it interesting that so few are willing to tell the truth about things such as the basic looking interior on the 3 series. The bar is so much higher for American brands.
Sheth Jones
Domestic companies deal with it and don't care (free country, free speech) but the journalists (and I use that term loosely, 95% are just hacks) are usually from north America and like the free trips to Europe and other exotic places, as its their only opportunity to travel - as those jobs pay next to nothing. There is an article about it on truth about cars...cars they say they like for trips or something like that, MB was #1.
That was a pointless drag race. Why not show the numbers instead of declaring the winners based on the drivers' reaction time being the determinant.
+Felix Pfaltermann it's not all about numbers .
+Joe Carroll The numbers would help with perspective. For instance, they failed to point out that the BMW has trouble putting its power down with the torque it pushes out and it tends to wheel spin heavily on launch control. If they showed the numbers like 0-60 and maybe trap speed at the quarter mile, I believe the M3 beats out the other two..
Brian Musyoka Exactly my point. All three are within a 0.1 sec time in the QM in every test I've seen thus far. This test made the M3 lose because of driver error. VERY stupid test. However, all three cars are equally awesome in their own way. There is no wrong choice if shopping the three. It's all about personal preference, and I chose the F80 M3 :)
+Brian Musyoka What use is power when you can't put it on the pavement? Cadillac discovered this when it made the first generation CTS. 400 horses from a Corvette engine was pointless in a drag race due to wheel hop. They haven't made that mistake with any of their subsequent high performance cars.
You BMW fans should listen to yourselves, so much bias drivel, drivability is also an important factor in impromptu drag races.
seeing the cadillac in person is way different than seeing it on video or photo. looks incredible in person
Cadillac reigns Supreme. Beating the Europeans at their own Game. How do you like them apples?
and the krauts have no dealerships unless ...for me anyways..i want to drive 500 miles for a service
actully 1000 miles for round trip HA!!
It's about time it caught up with the competition!😄
Love them!
@@germanengineering204 Cadillacs V-series has been eating the Germans lunch for the last 8 years. Where have you been? The German imports have been living off name recognition for the longest.
ATS was my pick.
The carbon fiber in the Cadillac is real and I like the shiny black plastic. What I find weird is that the new C-Class uses it also on the console as well as the E-Class. Funny thing is they love it when the Germans use it. Oh and every metal in the Cadillac is real.....so why is it cheaper?
All three of these cars are great and you can't go wrong with any of them however. Still I think I would give it to the Cadillac.
+rueben44 Thank you! I was thinking the same thing. These journalists are so biased they don't even realize that similar materials are found in the C class.
+Phil Wappner Actually now it does not but at first it was laggy and sucked. They updated it and now it is great and is no where the detraction of I-Drive or the Benz system. If you don't believe me try them all and then you will see how convoluted the "journalist" are.
+Phil Wappner it was updated for 2016 with faster processor. if you look at the video there is no evidence it wasn't responsive.
+rueben44 also that haptic feedback is supposedly being fixed in the ats and cts within the next few years so no more ''black shiny plastic"
+John Affatato if you look at xt5 and ct6 interior I think it's easy to see how future interiors will look. they are using less glossy plastic but people who don't like Cadillac won't care.
This has to be the best car comparison on TH-cam. I love all three of these sedans and as an ATS owner I'm glad to see that the ATS-V took home the trophy.
Today General Motors is run by engineers, unlike in the old days when it was run by bean counters!
Back then Their design was better specially Cadillac
+carlos ortiz agreed but you have to remember they didnt have to make sure that you dont die when you hit something.
+carlos ortiz spoken like true, dated , ignorance. Cadillac is designing for today's market, and doing it better than brands that have come to own the genre. Move forward.
+Bill Yates Agreed. Now all they need is a decent design team, who could work on the Camaro design too.
rdvideoclips I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, because I personally love GM designs!
The ATS automatic would have smoked the MB
Ctsv would
Check out all the revved up fanboys in the chat, damn. Someone get these people some ring cushions for the butt hurt they're feeling.
Anyway, I'd take the Cadillac and immediately go hunting for a new exhaust setup for it.
Downpipes and exhaust do wonders
BMW be like "did that stupid pimp car just pass me?"
Lol
I'll take the Cadillac. Gloss plastics and all.
"When you see a car comparo with more dislikes with 'BMW' in its title, you know the BMW lost"
The E46 was really the last driver-oriented 3 series. The E90 had a sublime V8 but lacks torque & has laughably bad brakes. The F80 M3 no longer has a unique engine enjoyed by all previous M3s and sounds like crap (the fact an M-car has sound symposers is an utter sin, at least Cadillac is honest about this). Also, the M3 now is beaten in chassis dynamics by both Cadillac & Mercedes, both brands historically more known for their comfy luxo-cruisers than scalpel-sharp sports sedans. How the might have fallen...
You have to be the biggest tool to say the M3 is a better sports sedan than the C63 AMG-S or the ATS-V. The C63 beats in day-to-day luxury & practicality while the ATS-V can ring rings around the M3 on the track & autocross.
Hahahaha I laughed so hard because it's true,every single video with any BMW or Merc losing in some kind of way doesn't matter what it is it will have a bunch of dislikes,hell it might even get flagged for abuse or harassment lol
+Trades46 that feeling when you have no clue what you're talking about lol. ''E46 last driver oriented 3-series'' lmao, you should go check out some other videos on this and you will realize 95% love the new F80 M3, and basicly everyone loves the E90. And you will also realize the BMW's is still beasts around a track, but if you're looking for good drag racing cars from BMW, M5 and M6 is your friends
Well when people buy BMW's they really take the "no compromise" serious. They really think they are the best of the best... I test drove a new M3, and it was terrible. It was beautiful looking hence why I stopped in the first place. Ended up buying a CTS V... Now, I'll happily admit the F10 BMW M5 is superior to the outgoing CTS V, but I wasn't wanting to spend 105k on a car. I do like the M4 though, but considering it's practically the same car; I won't spend 80k on an elongated M3.
i'm able to see M3 isn't the best of it's class right now but '' I test drove a new M3, and it was terrible.'' just made me realize you're a complete moron
+Trades46 youve clearly never driven an e90/92 m3
ATS rulez! I own one and love it.
Haters should drive it first then comment back.
Same here man.
NickT I just was at a dealer and saw one for 34 racks and it was a 6 speed manual. I think ima go back to get it.
@@ApostolicRick which one? Because im looking as well lmao
Same here
Considering price/value the Cadillac deserves the credit of being the best "Bang For The Buck" 15-20 grand less is definitely more persuasive to me, plus it's design is subtly aggressive!! Great job Cadillac!
LOL $90K for a C-Class
***** even better buy would be the ATS-V in three years
+S Saini that is cheap! in europe you don't buy an M or AMG for 90k dollar
+S Saini But then you would be driving a chevy instead of a merc
C63s big difference from a c300.
Mat Nowak true but a c class aint a real merc, and its more embarrassing as the Chevy beats the shit out a 90k merc for 20k less while looking better
benz for interior! bmw for exterior. Caddy for chassis. haha wow!
i'd buy the bmw tho cuz exterior is most important to me and I love the looks of the M's. 2nd car would be the benz for me cuz interior is the 2nd most important to me.
+Monkey D. Luffy M3 looks almost identical to the regular 3 series without the quad exhaust and the wheel
+ph00ny1 good thing the 3 series looks amazing aswell, with a 'sporty' looking version of it it's super good looking :)
+Fearzzy No doubt. Even the regular 3 series look good
+ph00ny1
M has a hood, fenders mufflers that standout from the normal 3 series. It's wider to btw and when you see it in person it says get out the way especially with there matte paints
+Young Den I'm not saying M3 isn't special but they made the regular 3 series design so aggressive, M3 feels less special
So I guess I'm the only one that noticed the ripples in the leather on the backseat of the Benz but Germans can't do nothing wrong tho. If the caddy had shown that kind of defect in it's interior it would be getting ripped to shreds.
ATS V looks amazing..."Yeshua/Jesus is the way"
Are you listening Motor Trend? You can't just choose a car because you like it's interior and noise better
Right! They( Johnny ) lost my respect, they had me scratching my head with the "SLOWEST SUPERCAR" statement about the NSX which hurt their sales hard. Then the crap of I wish I had a V8 BS and choosing the Mercedes when the CADDY ATSV KILLED THEM!
IM SOOO PISSED CADDY STOPPED MAKING the Sedan model. I was waiting for the 10spd as I but looks like I have to get ATS-V ASAP as no more sedan for me. Bummed out
ATS all day long, it looks awesome and sexy as well has its own original character something that the other two vehicles lucking on
Yes!!!! Keep it up, Cadillac!!!!
Now I like my ATS-V a little bit more!
ats v 8 speed auto please!
92grand! For that money im getting a Corvette Z06!
Quite funny really what he says about the m3 cause every other car tester dont mention it understeering and most of them hate the sound of it which is the opposite to what this guy says
Stfu
The carbon fiber is real in the Caddy. And the Caddy is faster than both of those cars. A little homework, and driving skills would help in an accurate review.
Excellent and very thorough review! This should be the standard of comparison reviews
Great review fellas. Love it. Still cannot get over the price of these cars. Never coud afford one.
The thing that bums me out about this video is that no matter who won the day, it was going to be universally maligned due to the rampant fanboy-ism and overwhelming sense of bias amongst those in this segment.
True, Im a GM fan, I have a CTSV, Im glad the ATS won, certainly there are many places it cant compare the the C63 or M3, and same for those two. Something I always say is this. I charish people who dont like cars I am into, it breeds discussion, and rivalry between brands, and to a point brand rivalry is good. You see for a while I have felt the merc and bmw have been stagnating, been "good enough" now they have the american upstart trying to do better while cheaper, which will only breed better options from all 3 brands for all of us. Good sport rivalry is what we need, but, as you said, fanboyism, will destroy the legacy of all of them if we let it.
Traded in a tuned Audi S8 that had brutal acceleration for the ATS-V 6MT with Lux and CF packages. Love, love, love this car! The S8 got to be boring (accept for the ungodly acceleration) and there was always the nagging fear of something breaking in the back of my mind, leading to the outrageous costs associated with any repair. It sat in the garage quite a bit. The ATS V has brought the fun back into my driving and I get it out on average once a day. Highly recommend one if you can find one.
Love this new show... Keep it up
Finally, they got it right. Also it was about fucking time that they mentioned the dangerous set up of the German designed radio controls. They are as bad as texting while driving. Cadillac's system is by FAR the safest of the bunch. Cadillac beat the others and did it for THOUSANDS of Dollars LESS than the over-priced and over-rated German rivals. Cadillac is "WORLD CLASS" now and hopefully, it will continue to be ahead of its rivals in the future.
Cadillac has said the 8sp Auto is a good as a dual clutch transmission but you chose the 6sp Manuel! Why bother! You chose the one that would not win!
Though I am a die hard ///M fanatic, I have to say that they are 100% right in this comparison. Great unbiased review here. I would probably buy the C63 AMG, jut because its really good at the luxury, sport, and aesthetic segments, but the ATS-V is the best car here as a total package.
ATS-V IMO looks aggressive, but the design of it will not last long, and will look very outdated within 5 years time. C63 AMG doesn't look anything special on the outside, and doesn't have a power/muscular shape anymore like it used to have. The M3 has the best design of the three, and will always looks good and sexy for many years.
The design take didn't age so well
@@nessleezle Exactly my thoughts lol. 6 years later and the Caddy is the best looking car in the bunch (though I do have a soft spot for the previous gen M3, especially with how they massacred the styling on the current gen car)
@Chris Cleveland imo the ats doesnt look as good because it doesn't look complete, cts v from the same time is a much better looking version of the same design
7 years later and the ATS is still the best looking car.
I laughed, as the reviewer tried to literally punch the Cadillac's CUE system to show it was slow and it worked every time!
+NITTY103166 i thought the same thing, he was saying it wasnt responding, but it was. In other words he was simply repeating played out criticisms of CUE that came from others, it doesn't even appear they tried to use it.
+Sheth Jones yes they have ran that in the ground
In person that Cadillac is gorgeous, video does it no justice. I will say, it’s bark and bite are equally felt.
Fanboys are mad haha.
it was cool in 2005 when topgear criticized buttons and having "too many" settings but its 2016, get used to it guys and find something else to criticize.
Keep up the good work guys!
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Articulate, knowledgable and informative. I have not seen analysis from American reviewers like this before. You seem to have covered most aspects. How the forms function is the only thing left out. Can an adult sit in the back seat? Spare tyre? Does the trunk and other storage work? Ad these parameters and your program would be indispensable to watch. Oh, and a properly done drag race would be good.
One thing no car review ever mentions about this comparison. The ATS-V is far, far more rare than the other two. If you get the Coupe with a 6MT, I predict this will be a car worth hanging on to. It also appears ATS-V prices have nearly stabilized so there is a good chance for ROI if that is your goal. Me? I just enjoy driving the hell out of it!!!
Hmm, Cadillac isn't good at making real carbon fiber look like what it actual is, real carbon fiber. The same with the Alcatara.
Cadillac has assimilated to the German’s game and has done well and is being criminally underrated.
Great review! I'll still take a new M3 Competition Pack, loaded to the gils with CC brakes and 6 speed manual. I really like the ATS-V and the fact I could get it with 6 speed manual. Too bad they didn't sell well (not sure why tbh) and no longer going to make them. The C63s is a great car, but price and no manual option is what places it 3rd for me.
Its actual carbon fiber in the Cadillacs interior. It would be one thing for Fat Jon Snow to ding the Cadillac for cheap knock off materials if it actually had them....And while the CUE system certainly lags behind the other cars tested, its not nearly as terrible as everyone makes it out to be. Once you get familiar with the system, its very easy to use. Plus, with Apple CarPlay added, 90% of my inputs are via Siri, which works flawless. The complaints about the gauge cluster are well founded, they have no business being in a $70k sports sedan competing with BMW'S and AMG's. With that said, majority of my time looking at the panel is focused on the integrated information screen which makes the dogshit cluster a bit more bearable.
The former test was with the CTS-V vs the Merc, Beemer and Audi. Now it's the new kid on the block, the ATS-V. Hmmm, guess that means Cadillac knew the 640 hp 2016 CTS-V would embarrass the (2) losers in this test? Just say, thank you GM!!
ATS-V was a drivers error.(Drag Race) Did you notice on his last shift in the ATS-V the C63 jumped in front of him? Unless that C63 had Nitrous and Meth there's no way he could've jumped ahead that fast.
If you gonna make a sponsored video, disclose it and write it in the title, the description and say it on camera, like the FTC says you should.
+addictedtopiano Awww did the truth hurt your iddy bitty feewings?? Cry baby.
I am currently looking at the Cadillac CTS-V or ATS-V as my next car. I hear the Cadillac is working on a new interior for the ATS, I may wait for that. I really like a V8 for this kind of money though, I am old school. Also, any car that under steers is shit or is a prius. I track my cars a few times a year. Subscribed, and thumbs up I really enjoyed the review.
Boxer Dog if you like old school , acts-v soon should be 427 ls7 powered which will really put a hurting on beemer and AMG !!!!!!
Would it been better to have had the cts v 🤔? Since the Benz was a v8 biturbo?
That rear spoiler on the cadillac look so funny Im gonna die xD
That's all you see when you get gapped
Europeans mock Americans for over-zealous patriotism while, in the same breath, letting their own biases clearly show through.
Cadillac FTW!
We are running the 6-speed manual well.. because its more fun 😂👍
What's with the colour / filters? I know nothing about camera stuff but the picture looks wrong.
Although i live in germany i love to drive my ATS. i will never exchange for Audi or BMW again
Plus audi n bmw most unreliable junk ever
Caddy ATS-V .. the official car of "I couldn't afford a car I really wanted."
Or "i know what value is and how far my dollar should go?"
+Alfonso Flores And what exactly is that? In 90% of the situations you will be going no more then 60 mph and you want at least a nice interior. ATS will be the quickest on the track if you know how to drive it but the rest is miles worse. It is not a good bang for the buck when most of the time you feel like sitting in a 20k dollar car. Just saying :)
Zhiloreznik bang for buck is not just a nice interior, the bmw is plain as fuck and the mercedes is 90k base, not to mention that it is a BOTTOM LINE VEHICLE, the c class is one of the cheapest sedans behind the e and s class. Honestly most people care about tech more than materials, i will admit the ats need less fingerprint prone surfaces and cue needs revisioning, I've heard they're working on it though. Bottom line is that c class' interior isn't worth an extra 30k. Not to mention Mercedes command is slow with 3g and it's just a plain ugly interface. Slow internet connectivity and basic menu's with ugly colours and fonts.
+Alfonso Flores the c63 is 65k base, the c63 s is 73k base. in fact, they're all pretty much the same price (60k for ats-v, 63k for m3, 65k for c63), so Zhiloreznik needs to chill out too. but yeah, calm down, boys. don't get your knickers in a twist over cars.
+hotlesbianassassin But what else are we suppose to do while the earth spins around the sun. We choose our teams (preferences) and then we argue about nonsense because it makes the time go by. Just like this video, just like politics, just like ... well you get the point :) But you are on the money that the difference is small but the perceived difference in my humble opinion is big. And the sales figures show that every time. So GM needs to get the shit together and start thinking about the comfort and not just 0.1s difference in 0-60. Because only internet warriors get their undies wet in Lacs of recent age.
The Cadillac is a 550RWHP car with exhaust and tune that is still the best car in this segment in 2019.
Lounche Control ??
The Cadillac is by far the best looking! Bad Ass!!
Is that a fact or an opinion?
bmx687 Opinion
ugly s car...How you people get to like that car?
@@RickRossTopFan
Are you talking about the Mercedes? That's hideous, I agree with you. The Cadillac and the BMW looks good.
the worst looking but could be the best on track apparently for the serious track driver
10:50 Fiddle? Did this guy forget there are 2 programmable (M1 and M2) buttons that allow you to set those functions to whatever presets you want? For example I could set all those settings to be Comfort for M1 when I'm just driving around town but when I want to have fun I have the M2 set at Sport+.
I’m American. I like the Caddy and don’t care who knows it. It is by far best looking, and a monster to boot.
Cadillac is the cheapest
Mercedes is the fastest (Although you did use c63 s)
BMW looks the best
There you go I did your job for you
You forgot Cadillac handles the best and has the best balance, get the best MPG, is the most reliable, is quite a bit faster than the BMW and is also faster than the C63 S according to Motor Trend, and may in fact be the best handling 4 door car ever made.
Oh, and it's the cheapest too.
Vernon Price I highly doubt the cadillac handles best. Check any non american review and it's not even regarded in the same context as the other two. Neither does it have the heritage/pedigree of the other two. If you pull up in cadillac no ones going to care. In fact I struggle to find a review that compares the cadillac alongside the bmw/mercedes in any non-american review.
+ohgodwhy 100% agree.. Where is this Vernon dude getting his info from? The cars are brand new, how can you say which one is more reliable?? And if they do break, they are under factory warranty for 4 year or 50k so who the hell cares!
ohgodwhy Oh, you highly doubt it? Well coming from an expert like you, that should be all that needs to be said then.
Jesus, who do you think you are? This video proved that the ATS-V handles the best, did you even watch it? Did you listen to anything they said? Oh and the fact that you even said "heritage" proves that you're a car-illiterate quack. Oh does heritage make a car faster? Does heritage make it handle better? No? Then why did you mention it again? Right, because you're a moron.
And who cares what you think other people are going to think if you pull up in a Cadillac? The ATS-V very clearly beats the other two in this comparison, and this is not the first time that's happened. The ATS_V also beat the C63s and the M3 in Motor Trend's comparison. Is that a coincidence? Really?
Or is it maybe that you're a biased asshole who is not smart enough to absorb the information put directly in front of his face? Seems like that's more likely, to me.
Grocery Bagger Seriously?
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Where is Cadillac on that list, and where is Mercedes and BMW?
Once again, the Cadillac won this comparison because it does all things better than the other two cars do all things. They were very clear about the ATS-V dominating the other two around the track, too. So it's not just "the cheapest" it is actually "the one that beat both the other cars".
AND it's the cheapest.
Anyone who actually believes BMW is the Ultimate Driving Machine, is a victim of great marketing.
Go home lol, BMW IS A KING
Lets face it, BMW has gone a bit soft around the edges and Mercedes has tightened up in the all around performance area. Now we have Cadillac coming in and pushing the ride, steering, handling, and total performance aspect. As well as edgy design. Regardless of your preference, competition is good for everyone. It raises the bar and makes for better cars. Be happy!!
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Well this is crap, the bimmer was drag raced by a novice. Evidently a biased/sponsored review, considering the time wasted talking about the caddy, and its tasteless boxiness. Sorry to burst your bubble roadshow, but the caddy is nothing special when placed alongside the bimmer or merc. The bimmer is definitely the most aggressive, with both the front bumper and rear diffuser, as well as the hood, then the merc's clean and subtly, but surely, styled front and rear end. The ATS-V just looks like an uprated ford focus inside (seriously, what is with those stupid trapezoidal air vents?); the bimmer, admittedly, isn't too posh, although it has a driver-focused, wraparound concept with one of the best steering wheels out there; the merc is the best looking by a fair bit, especially with the front seat design, and optional designo interior(s). Moving on to the talk about handling, there is no way that the cadillac could be better than the bimmer. That's absurd, I mean, just because you're American, you want American cars to mean something, and the video is sponsored, doesn't mean you have to lie. The bimmer is like a scalpel, as so accurately put by one of the presenters; the merc, not near there yet, but fun because of the throwability of the rear end and the sound of the V8; the ATS, not really sure, it handles cleaner than the merc, but is still awkward, and still not near the bimmer. I'll leave the track section alone, apart from saying that it helps to know the track, then how to drive a car on the track. The comment about the M3 looking like a standard 3 series is completely ridiculous. The ATS has a revised bumper, grill, bonnet and rear diffuser, when compared to the standard ATS, and a bootlip spoiler, but that's the extent of the difference. The M3 is lowered, has a new bumper, fenders, side panels, rear diffuser, bonnet, grilles, roof, and the little bootlid spoiler, but you know, it looks like a 320i right? The merc has a lot of changes to differentiate it from the standard c200, like the new bumper, grill, revised side panels, flared wheel arches, rear diffuser, and bootlip spoiler (again). I don't understand the supposed 'sagginess' of the merc's rear end, it's lower, more aggressive; then the bottom third is more aggressively styled and pronounced than on the other (c class) models. Finally, I'm going to bash the stupid cost argument: the C63 starts at $66k in the US (C63s at $73k), the M3 at $63.5k and the cadillac at $60.5k, so there's no $30k difference, only if you decide to personalise your car more. Additionally, just by doing a fairly standard build on the ATS, I got it up to $80k, same sort of build on the C63 to $84k ($91k on the C63s), and on the M3 $81k, so there's not so much disparity, right?
Fun fact #1: the componentry of the M3 is 80% different/new when compared to any other 3 series (but it looks like a standard 3 series don't forget)
Fun fact #2: the 'huge' 3-pointed star in the centre of the C63's grille actually means something! With mercs, the more luxurious models have the emblem raised up off the bonnet, like on the mercedes-maybach s600 for example, whilst the sportier models have the emblem in the grille, as seen on the C63, E63, A45, CLS63, etc. (sorry, it's not used for posing off)
+BeefPlays are you kidding the bimmer looks like a 15k mazda3 inside and out
You sir, are awesome.
you cant be serious? BMW launch control is a nightmare. Watch the 5th gear comparison where 2 pro drivers cant get it to launch. Get over your bmw love affair.
Juste Dan you have a caddy emblem as your dp, enough said.
Blake Swan he didn't use launch control. and it was a manual. There's no love affair, it's kinda fact... and I understand there are issues with the launch control
+Juste Dan What? you're obviously a caddy fan, with all their cheap plastics and cheap leather. I don't understand how you could draw a comparison between a mazda and a bimmer, although the mazda is still a better car than a caddy. Looks like this guy struck a nerve when he cut the caddy down. If you weren't so bigoted, you'd understand that: 1. there are cars outside the world of american cars. and 2. those other cars are always better.
The ATS-V wins in almost every comparison with almost every reviewer, some of you foreign nutbag fanboys need to realize that Caddy has just uncrowned the long time champ BMW M3 and is now the car to beat, in it's first try! HAHA
Fucked MORON, m3 competicion FUCK ALL DAY THIS BULLSCHIT AMERIKANS, LOOK THE VIDEO FUCKED MORON, M3 BEGINN 1 SEC LATER, cadillac 600 cm more and 40 HP MORE, BMW M3 COMPETICION WITH DAME HP FUCK ALL DAY THE PURE BULLSCHIT PLASTIK GARBIGE Cadillac
The 8th seed ftw 🙌🏽 😂
All great cars!
5:42 "Nothing looks like cadillac on the road today"... thank god for that, its fucking ugly.
+Yussnan84 LOL! You crazy! The ATS-V is the SEXIEST BY FAR!!!!!! LMAO! :-)
Iknow everythinghahahahaha! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! no, the C63 looks waaaayyyy better.
***** Well everyone has their opinion. I think the ATV looks way better. I'm not a fan of the Mercedes rear end although the front looks nice.
+Iknow everythinghahahahaha! And i think the BMW looks way better, looks is probably the biggest reason why i like BMW in the first place ^
+Fearzzy Their right, the M3 looks pretty much like a basic 3 series, hood bulge and bigger rear fenders. Kinda boring.
I want to read the comments, but I already know it will be filled with idiots arguing about every single fucking thing - majority being people who do not drive let alone can afford any of these cars. I'm just going to post this comment without reading them.
The 2nd day I owned my ATS-V Coupe w/ 6speed Manuel I got to run a BMW M3 on i10 east through New Orleans. It was close but the Caddy had the better top end. Also 3rd gear at a 60mph roll is the perfect pull zone for this car in my opinion, those long gears make this transmission.
@WeBeHoonin' Might see if I can find a SS Camero or a Mustang GT to run the Caddy against, just for kicks of course!
Corrado, The ATS-V manual has a 3.73 rear vs 2.85 for the Auto!
The saddles a bit rough but that ATS V ponie sure wins the races
I'd buy the cadillac hands down
Go HOME lol
I will make one of the boldest predictions to ever be proclaimed, the M3 will win.
+dobbins2550 pay up
Opps, I know who I will never take any inside information from on who will win the Kentucky Derby! wink....wink.
Why are you using a non comp m3 and launching it terribly
Why are they using the ats-v instead of the cts-v
+Ryan Cormier The atsv is the direct competitor to the M3 and C class. The CTSV is closer to the M5 and E65.
the C63 and M3 are the better cars here the ATS-V is a low quality car these guys are dopes
+costa kaparos You sound ignorant.
@@vernonprice5986 Nope. Caddy is on the same league with Nissan.
BMW, the ultimate driving machine...not. Boring and the car most likely to transport you back to the 80s. And then there's Benz, the most uncivilized of the three. Nice V8 but let's face it, as it's a car built around a MB badge, kind of for those who hang the 3 pointed star around their neck on a gold chain in a disco for $90.000. The Cadillac.....Winner, the true sports car that unanimously continues to be the clear choice no matter what source or review you're looking at!
Oh those flared fenders. Wow.
I know a lot of hard work went into this video but c'mon. C'mon. Guys. What are you thinking?
amg is the best,BMW next
Jaylen Bond Nope that's why they both lost lmao.
Sorry, but the ATS-V is ugly af. Can't look at it for more than half a minute, it's simply destroying my eyes
They should have all either had manuals or all have automatics to make it fair.
no Audi S4 or Rs4?
Just because one car is faster that the other it doesn't make it better, like build quality better. Why do you think Mercedes and BMW are more expensive that the Cady?? They use much better and expensive components to build their cars, they take time developing new technology, they test their cars in extreme condtitions. You say BMW looks cheap inside, you have obviously never sat in one. When you sat in german luxury car and then compare it with american luxury car, you are out of your damn mind if you're say that american car makes you feel more special. American cars are good, I'm not saying they are not, but when it comes to build quality of the cars, no one can beat germans. At least not for now. You can say what ever you wanna say. I mean what I just said and I'm sticking to it.
+Vedran Horak Cadillac takes time developing there cars too. It's exterior design language is the most distinctive and aggressive by far. From a standpoint of handling, Cadillac beats out it's competitors by far PLUS it's packed with technology. The only real complaint reviewers have about it is the Cue system. Now for $20,000 and $30,000 less it really blows it's competition out of the water.
Iknow everythinghahahahaha! That's OK, but that's the problem. As long as they trying so desperately to be the fastest and cheapest, their cars will never be better than the germans. I feel like that's the only thing americans care about, in every other video where Corvette beats some double the price car from Germany they always say: "HAHAHAHAHAHAH for that price I can have 2 Corvettes." , I would get that Corvette and tune it to like 1000 whp." That's all OK by me, but american cars will never be better as long as they keep doing the same thing. Be the fastest and the cheapest.
Vedran Horak I get what you're saying and historically speaking you're right, but lately, Cadillac started going in a different direction. Cadillac isn't necessarily trying to be the fastest anymore, but rather the most complete performance-wise. The ATS-V is not the fastest of the class, that would be the C63, but it does have the best handling. It benchmarked the M3 in its development and surpassed it. The reason it's cheaper is because Cadillac does not have the same brand recognition as BMW and Mercedes. If it was comparably priced no one would by it, even if the specs and build quality were superior, because the BMW and Mercedes badge carries more prestige right now. However, if Cadillac keeps on track eventually they will gain that recognition and their prices will start to reflect that.
Iknow everythinghahahahaha! You my friend are 100% right. I think you are one of few rare people with who I can actually talk here on yt. The brand recognition is playing a pretty big role in the whole thing. If the Cady stays on it's track it will one day be neck to neck with the Mercedes, BMW and Audi. Personally, I like the looks of the Cadillac, I think it's a good car, but from what I'm used here in Europe, Mercedes brings that whole package, you know what I mean?? Like, specially new Mercedes AMG models, older ones had some downgrades like handiling but built quallity, the materials never seemed to be one of them.
///M and ///AMG are know neck and neck, a few years ago, the first time ///AMG interdouced us with CLK Black Series, they figured out they need to work on the handiling if they ever gonna beat ///M. I think this is the time for ///AMG to took the crown. If not know, when?? If AMG went on to took the crown from Porsche with the AMG GTS I don't think ///M will be that much harder. You know what I mean?? Cadillac is something ///AMG went through, but one thing is sure, the game is chaniging.
Vedran Horak Yes I agree, the game is changing and I think it's a good thing.
Garbage review. You get a less expensive manual BMW and a loaded Merc. Then do shit runs and biased reviews. Yes, I'm calling the kettle black. Do a way better job. All cars should be equally fully loaded or all base. Comparing a Manual to anything else is ridiculous and a significant disadvantage.
At 16:00 why on earth would he have expected the merc to be the most civilized on track? Is this guy a beginner? In the Merc vs BMW rivalry it's always been known that the BMW is the precise, balanced car and the Merc is the overpowered, sideways-going hooligan's car. AMG's are not known to be civilized on track.
Why not test the two against the CTSV
Nobody here in europe wants a cadillac
+Monster I'm european i'd take it over both of the others.
+Vernon Price nobody wants a caddilac to begin with i don't think they even sell them where i live the Benz and the BMW are more refined better looking cars ofcourse we want them like it's not that you always are on the track
We arn't stupid just stop saying that we just love a mercedes bmw or a audi we dont like cadilacs why won't you understand almost nobody drives a cadillac plus the ats v isnt that mush faster it only cost less
Vernon Price
Monster just wants some attention, there are more than enough people who want to drive american or japanese cars even here in Luxembourg where most people can afford german cars.
+toto211111 you should know that Cadillac dont really sell you live in Luxemburg im from netherlands
This was good...until the ending summary. WTF does a saggy rear end have to do with anything here? Who the hell needs a forward-facing camera with those graphics? Seriously, stupidest rationalizations I've ever (probably) ever heard for choosing a "winner". 4G? What a waste of tech in a car, who needs it. Yes, the Caddie is an amazing drive, but it's takes MUCH more than that to win a contest like this. And the styling of the ATS-V is the most ordinary of the 3, easily, looking like a last generation Camry. The Benz looks like a million bucks. The BMW looks like half a million bucks. I was all ready to hit the subscribe button until the last 2:30 minutes.
+senorgato70 Whining about the PDR just makes you look really stupid. The PDR is excellent, it's an amazing thing to have in your car, and whining about it just makes you look like a fucking child. The ATS-V was the best balanced, best driving car in this test. The end. Accept it, and get over it.
+senorgato70 he's saying the c63 rear end LOOKS "saggy", in other words he doesnt like how the rear end LOOKS... its his personal opinion, and its referring to appearance. It's unclear exactly how they are judging these cars, but it seems they are considering price, and mainly track/DRIVING experience. If the cheapest car here is the most exciting on the track what are you really mad about? Everyone knows mercedes interiors are gorgeous. but thats not the point...
senorgato70 You are. Here's one of your many whines:
"Who the hell needs a forward-facing camera with those graphics?"
You're whining because you're trying to find something to bitch about, because you didn't like th result of this test. But the fact is, the PDR is a really cool piece of tech that has a lot of uses, and the other cars don't have it. So you bitching about it makes you look petty and stupid.
And see, now you're just lashing out at me because you're still crying about the ATS-V winning the comparison. Get over it, child.
+Vernon Price what was that pussyboy? Frankly I don't give a damn who wins. They are all phenomenal cars and choosing a winner is like splitting hairs. But give me something more than graphics or USB outlets or droopy design elements. That's why I said that it was a great review until the last 2 minutes. Now go back to sucking on your pacifier
+Kern O'Leary I'm glad you seem to understand my point in how a winner was chosen.
Lets do a rolling start and see where the m3 is :D
+卓尧杜 Still behind the ATS-V which has more power and torque than the M3.
I love my ATS, I've had two of them now.. QUE 4.0 is much improved on my 2016 plus you get Apple Car Play, the gloss plastic isn't too bad, they give you a cloth to clean the finger prints Ha! I'm sure the next interior will be vastly improved like the XT6 and XT5. They forgot to mention that you also get the pride of buying American, there's a sicker of Michigan inside the drivers door to remind you each time you get in the car..
You can't compare a bmw or a mercedes with a cadillac. Are you serious ? 😂 bmw and mercedes are the best cars
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