Lots of potential in these boats. Especially when you look at the bare bones of the whole thing. I think this is one of the best new catamaran designs in a long time. From the design to the choice of material to the small things, like the height of the counter tops, a real helm and charting station, push drawers, from big to small they are hitting the mark. And the fact he is adapting the boat to real world daily use. Going to be exciting to watch.
You make some excellent points about this being a Hull #1, aka "Prototype" boat. Anything in this class will be custom so people shouldn't focus on what they don't like and instead, focus on the potential of this boat. I love welded aluminum cats and will look forward to seeing how Archipelago develops in Hull #2.
I would make the rear access door larger and possibly design something to catch and store rainwater. A lip on the edge of the roof can also double as a handhold.
Like this one, like the head height in the salon and cabins. Gallery needs work on it, fiddle the edges she is off shore boat, a dishwasher (good for family or entertaining, after all your on holiday) even a drawer one. Maybe find room once salon floor is raised. Solar panels I like that idea. Once Steve sorted out the new modifications needed please Alex goes see it and put her through her paces so we can see what she looks like. She going to be a looker once fished and I love the helm chair.
Aloha; BRILLIANT! We're very impressed by this vessel and are holding our breath for future tests of not only this model but the larger ones as well. Well done! Mahalo
Owner's cabin is nice but that's about it. I'd keep that for myself, and move the galley into the other hull to create more living space above. Any guests can strap themselves to the roof rack.
Strapping your guests to the roof rack 😂 love it. Waterproof mattress and bedding need. 😂 But I want solar panels so careful planning is needed for guest 😴 sleeping. 😂
I love this cat. On the starboard hull forward I would not have bunks rather a work area and some extra storage. Up top solar and an area for a dingy also a crane would be nice. Now I have to look at the bank account and talk to the lady who … well you know.
This is where Bering was 10 or so years ago. Take a look at the earlier Berings and they look a lot like this. This is definitely a boat I would be interested in. I would take a good long hard look at the company though to make sure they have their ducks in a row. You also have to face the fact you would be an early adopter - you have to like the bleeding edge and be willing to deal with the issues that implies. If you want a perfectly completed cat go look at a Horizon. Excellent boats but way more focused on the production side of things.
Why must every online discussion about any aspect of boating always have to include the armchair expert's darling, Bering Yachts ? 10 years ago, Bering was a one-man-band, Russian-owned, American-based sales company for Russian-designed trawler-style, ultra-heavy displacement, steel monohulls built by various sub-contracting yards in China. It had yet to open its first shipyard in Turkey. Archipelago is a UK company, launching a lightweight, all-aluminium cruising catamaran built in a dedicated facility in the UK. How is a Bering 65 remotely comparable to an Archipelago 47 ? In fact, I challenge anybody to come up with a pair of power-boats more totally different from each other. Just because a couple of TH-cam influencers cut a deal to promote Bering Yachts does not make it a suitable comparison for every type of boat under the sun, no matter how good, bad or indifferent Bering boats may actually be (which is hard to tell, because they have only launched SEVEN boats from their own shipyard since opening in 2017 - hardly enough to form an initial opinion let alone sustain such an ardent following, surely ?). At least Horizon makes catamarans, although the smallest is the PC 52, it's made of GRP with a flybridge, and costs twice as much as the Archipelago 47 (base $2,695,000 v. £1,200,000), so not really a direct competitor, either...
@@RandomGuyRandomNumber agreed 💯 % with you. If you want a Bering fine go for it. But if your in the market for an off shore British design, built and Company then this catamaran is very much worth looking at and buying. Once Steve sorts out the modifications needed she'll be a boat that the market will be interested in.
Really enjoyable sea trial. Shame there wasn’t some proper waves to test its metal! My big question; what have they been doing since the show?! All the prototype niggles seem to still be there 🤷🏼♂️
Thanks for this good introduction. I'd appreciated it much more when this yacht would have been in a finished stage (to much i needed to imagine ...). Besides, what is the fundamental thought here. On one side they went Aluminium, i.e. explorer style, on the other hand it hasn't got any long range equipment, well at least not what we could see in this clip. So besides it being another alu cat, not much really which attracted me to it. For me LRC 65 or ARKSEN 65 or a merge of them with this A 47 cat concept ... (?)
Seems to me that there is wasted space at the front end. Without a central forward cabin, why not push the helm forward a little more and create more living space inside?
Never wear life jackets inside while sailing! , otherwise a ovely boat but I find that the Ps & Stb navigation lights are fitted too far to the stern , difficult for other vessels to see if there is a change in course escpecially on this high speed vessel.
This design seems to get as close as you possibly can to both being able to withstand rough seas and running from them, which seems a good thing, when you’re exploring far from any shore. But with all the engine and technical compartments inaccessible on anything but a calm sea, I wonder if she’d be able to turn and ride the waves to get there with one half down: I guess there is no such thing as a self-righting cat. I don’t see the explorer credentials extend quite into the insides for lack of storage: even two might be tempted to eat each other before their ocean crossing is over and I don’t quite see them sitting down for meals anywhere. I don’t think I’m a design person at all, but evidently outrageously good still gets through: I am completely smitten by the outside and the inside, which seems as inviting and unobtrusive as it seems elegant even to me. And that master bedroom has me never wanting to get up again! I have zero idea about the practicality of keeping it all working and clean on longer routes and in all types of weather, but it does look quite good even in this unfinished state. On many boats you can convert one cabin into some type of gym to keep you hale and sane, but accommodating something here seems a bit of a challenge: if they really want to explore the exploration angle, they might have to come up with something. I quite like the idea of being able to handle this boat alone, but again for longer routes you’d need some type of self-driving or remote operation, which could be a new market segment this company might be better prepared to serve than those who target the pleasure market.
14:20 I always asked my self when I started working in charter when I was 15 why do people put "DO NOT STEP" stickers on deck windows on sailboats it looks terrible, who is that stupid that it will step on window... and here is the answer, some people really don't think and need a stickers. Somebody will say "its thick plastic window, it will not braik its strong" I changed 5 of them on 5 diferent boats in one summer
The engines are “synced”, only need to use the one throttle lever and it controls both engines, at the same rpm level. Used when running and then you would use the throttles independently of each other when maneuvering.
FWIW I commented on an earlier review on a different YT channel (Yacht Buoy) five months ago when it also reviewed Hull #1. Nothing seems to have changed and, although Archipelago replied and confirmed that items such as the helm would be fundamentally changed, it doesn't seem to have taken the opportunity to test some different designs/configurations. The noise from those Iveco engines was very intrusive on your test, and is not something that I would tolerate.
FFS it has been months since the first show and they still have not finished the second hill. this is looking more and more like a kickstarter campaign
The cockpit is weird , very bad design and the engines is way too big for a long range explorer. Two john Deere 6068TFM50 225hp would do over 2500nm at 8 knots and 18knots max speed. Install a kite sail , a micro farm, go hybrid electric and you can be at sea forever. Very disappointing test numbers
What's a foot? Spent so much time in this European video by a European host about a European boat, trying to figure out the sizes mentioned that were all in stupid units that Americans use. Annoying. As for the boat, it looks like an aluminium welder and a cabinetmaker got together and built a project boat in the shed on the farm. Some nice points, but so so many flaws to work out. They took this to a show?
Yes they did, to show what their WIP was like. To listen to people's ideas, Alex was talking to Steve the boat designer/ builder about storage. Not the first company to take the 1st prototype to a show for feedback.
The design of the bridge is very ugly, its appearance is outdated and very tall. It is really annoying to see. It is a design for a military ship, not a pleasure ship.
@@nothingsurprisesmeanymore You're right, maybe as a prototype it's basic. The position of helmsman is "intimidating". Here in Uruguay I saw equipping 6.2 L Mercury engines, most Caterpillar, Volvo, Yanmar, Yamaha, Evinrude, in larger boats some Motor Man, Work in restoration and painting of yachts.
@@nothingsurprisesmeanymoreYou are not very competent in terms of engines. The FPT 6.7 (N67) is the best engine of the class, infact they are selling them with the brand Mercury, Cummins, Yanmar and many others. Iveco produces Trucks, not engines. The motor brand Is FPT (Fiat Powertrain Technologies)
Not digging the helm chair. Too tall and looks cheap. The controls and everything about the bridge is substandard to me. Ok, I made it to 5:50 and that was enough for me to realize that this was a boat I would never buy. The reviewer was continually making excuses for the boats deficiencies. Even though it was hull #1, the design was generally horrible, as was the fit and finish. The boat is no where near ready to be shown on the market.
It's way to unfinished to be shown off this much, there are a lot of design changes needed and it doesn't help that they introduce problems, that have been solved a long time ago like the drawers and the horrible satee and helm or the lack of a swim platform. There are a lot more than these easily fixable problems, but these shouldn't need real-world testing, these should have been ironed out in the development phase and never leave the drawing paper. At this state, there are way to many excuses and "they will change it" comment are required from the presenters to make it a positive presentation. Yes it has potential, but i'm not convinced it will ever achieve it. And they should not be commenting about future models until they manage to develop this one into an acceptable state....
Lots of potential in these boats. Especially when you look at the bare bones of the whole thing. I think this is one of the best new catamaran designs in a long time. From the design to the choice of material to the small things, like the height of the counter tops, a real helm and charting station, push drawers, from big to small they are hitting the mark. And the fact he is adapting the boat to real world daily use. Going to be exciting to watch.
Before announcing another three boats in the range (and a special edition of this one), perhaps it might be nice to finish building the first boat ?
You make some excellent points about this being a Hull #1, aka "Prototype" boat. Anything in this class will be custom so people shouldn't focus on what they don't like and instead, focus on the potential of this boat. I love welded aluminum cats and will look forward to seeing how Archipelago develops in Hull #2.
Love the look of that one. And I like how the 2 hulls are very sharp and taller than most other cats❤❤
If Silent yachts could do a colab, that could be a dream boat.
I would make the rear access door larger and possibly design something to catch and store rainwater. A lip on the edge of the roof can also double as a handhold.
Like this one, like the head height in the salon and cabins. Gallery needs work on it, fiddle the edges she is off shore boat, a dishwasher (good for family or entertaining, after all your on holiday) even a drawer one. Maybe find room once salon floor is raised. Solar panels I like that idea.
Once Steve sorted out the new modifications needed please Alex goes see it and put her through her paces so we can see what she looks like. She going to be a looker once fished and I love the helm chair.
What an absolutely amazing video. Hats off to Alex and the cameraman!
Lounge kitchen area needs a bit of luxuriating but lots of potential!
Aloha; BRILLIANT! We're very impressed by this vessel and are holding our breath for future tests of not only this model but the larger ones as well. Well done! Mahalo
Owner's cabin is nice but that's about it. I'd keep that for myself, and move the galley into the other hull to create more living space above. Any guests can strap themselves to the roof rack.
Strapping your guests to the roof rack 😂 love it. Waterproof mattress and bedding need. 😂
But I want solar panels so careful planning is needed for guest 😴 sleeping. 😂
I love this cat. On the starboard hull forward I would not have bunks rather a work area and some extra storage. Up top solar and an area for a dingy also a crane would be nice. Now I have to look at the bank account and talk to the lady who … well you know.
Great prototipe.
The idea of this boat is great, but lacks many live aboard and long term storage and needs
Great to see you for a sea trial Alex! Thank you for your excellent video!
This is where Bering was 10 or so years ago. Take a look at the earlier Berings and they look a lot like this. This is definitely a boat I would be interested in. I would take a good long hard look at the company though to make sure they have their ducks in a row. You also have to face the fact you would be an early adopter - you have to like the bleeding edge and be willing to deal with the issues that implies. If you want a perfectly completed cat go look at a Horizon. Excellent boats but way more focused on the production side of things.
Why must every online discussion about any aspect of boating always have to include the armchair expert's darling, Bering Yachts ?
10 years ago, Bering was a one-man-band, Russian-owned, American-based sales company for Russian-designed trawler-style, ultra-heavy displacement, steel monohulls built by various sub-contracting yards in China. It had yet to open its first shipyard in Turkey.
Archipelago is a UK company, launching a lightweight, all-aluminium cruising catamaran built in a dedicated facility in the UK. How is a Bering 65 remotely comparable to an Archipelago 47 ? In fact, I challenge anybody to come up with a pair of power-boats more totally different from each other.
Just because a couple of TH-cam influencers cut a deal to promote Bering Yachts does not make it a suitable comparison for every type of boat under the sun, no matter how good, bad or indifferent Bering boats may actually be (which is hard to tell, because they have only launched SEVEN boats from their own shipyard since opening in 2017 - hardly enough to form an initial opinion let alone sustain such an ardent following, surely ?).
At least Horizon makes catamarans, although the smallest is the PC 52, it's made of GRP with a flybridge, and costs twice as much as the Archipelago 47 (base $2,695,000 v. £1,200,000), so not really a direct competitor, either...
@@RandomGuyRandomNumber agreed 💯 % with you. If you want a Bering fine go for it. But if your in the market for an off shore British design, built and Company then this
catamaran is very much worth looking at and buying.
Once Steve sorts out the modifications needed she'll be a boat that the market will be interested in.
A pair of 120 hp engines is an option??
Sounds like you’re inside a 55 gallon drum. Definitely needs more insulation!😊
Excellent and brilliantly done (video and cat alike). I'd love videos like this on the rest of the range as well!
The price looks also really attractive!
Agreed!
A really great review, thank you.
Really enjoyable sea trial. Shame there wasn’t some proper waves to test its metal!
My big question; what have they been doing since the show?! All the prototype niggles seem to still be there 🤷🏼♂️
Did they ever fix the issues ? Would be nice to see the completed helm
Would like to see these running a series hybrid with Ford or Tesla E motors and running powered from generators with moderatery large blade packs.
Thanks for this good introduction. I'd appreciated it much more when this yacht would have been in a finished stage (to much i needed to imagine ...). Besides, what is the fundamental thought here. On one side they went Aluminium, i.e. explorer style, on the other hand it hasn't got any long range equipment, well at least not what we could see in this clip. So besides it being another alu cat, not much really which attracted me to it. For me LRC 65 or ARKSEN 65 or a merge of them with this A 47 cat concept ... (?)
Seems to me that there is wasted space at the front end. Without a central forward cabin, why not push the helm forward a little more and create more living space inside?
A central forward helm protruding a bit forward would really be awesome, esp since they have no plans for a fly bridge on this model.
Never wear life jackets inside while sailing! , otherwise a ovely boat but I find that the Ps & Stb navigation lights are fitted too far to the stern , difficult for other vessels to see if there is a change in course escpecially on this high speed vessel.
This design seems to get as close as you possibly can to both being able to withstand rough seas and running from them, which seems a good thing, when you’re exploring far from any shore.
But with all the engine and technical compartments inaccessible on anything but a calm sea, I wonder if she’d be able to turn and ride the waves to get there with one half down: I guess there is no such thing as a self-righting cat.
I don’t see the explorer credentials extend quite into the insides for lack of storage: even two might be tempted to eat each other before their ocean crossing is over and I don’t quite see them sitting down for meals anywhere.
I don’t think I’m a design person at all, but evidently outrageously good still gets through: I am completely smitten by the outside and the inside, which seems as inviting and unobtrusive as it seems elegant even to me. And that master bedroom has me never wanting to get up again!
I have zero idea about the practicality of keeping it all working and clean on longer routes and in all types of weather, but it does look quite good even in this unfinished state.
On many boats you can convert one cabin into some type of gym to keep you hale and sane, but accommodating something here seems a bit of a challenge: if they really want to explore the exploration angle, they might have to come up with something.
I quite like the idea of being able to handle this boat alone, but again for longer routes you’d need some type of self-driving or remote operation, which could be a new market segment this company might be better prepared to serve than those who target the pleasure market.
14:20
I always asked my self when I started working in charter when I was 15 why do people put "DO NOT STEP" stickers on deck windows on sailboats it looks terrible, who is that stupid that it will step on window... and here is the answer, some people really don't think and need a stickers. Somebody will say "its thick plastic window, it will not braik its strong"
I changed 5 of them on 5 diferent boats in one summer
Why are you only using the starboard engine.
Is the port engine not working on this test?
The engines are “synced”, only need to use the one throttle lever and it controls both engines, at the same rpm level. Used when running and then you would use the throttles independently of each other when maneuvering.
Needs a lot of clever design, but a great would be motor cat.
With that wake, the hull design looks quite inefficient.
Never understand why they put these nice big windows in then cover half of them with enormous control panels, it irritates me to no end
The boat wash is so little
I want to like this boat but it has some issues. That helm is a nightmare and the noise is excessive.
FWIW I commented on an earlier review on a different YT channel (Yacht Buoy) five months ago when it also reviewed Hull #1. Nothing seems to have changed and, although Archipelago replied and confirmed that items such as the helm would be fundamentally changed, it doesn't seem to have taken the opportunity to test some different designs/configurations. The noise from those Iveco engines was very intrusive on your test, and is not something that I would tolerate.
FFS it has been months since the first show and they still have not finished the second hill. this is looking more and more like a kickstarter campaign
The helm is clownish and unnecessarily tall.
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The cockpit is weird , very bad design and the engines is way too big for a long range explorer.
Two john Deere 6068TFM50 225hp would do over 2500nm at 8 knots and 18knots max speed.
Install a kite sail , a micro farm, go hybrid electric and you can be at sea forever.
Very disappointing test numbers
What's a foot? Spent so much time in this European video by a European host about a European boat, trying to figure out the sizes mentioned that were all in stupid units that Americans use. Annoying.
As for the boat, it looks like an aluminium welder and a cabinetmaker got together and built a project boat in the shed on the farm.
Some nice points, but so so many flaws to work out. They took this to a show?
You are so right!
A foot is the thing at the end of your leg 😜
Yes they did, to show what their WIP was like. To listen to people's ideas, Alex was talking to Steve the boat designer/ builder about storage. Not the first company to take the 1st prototype to a show for feedback.
The design of the bridge is very ugly, its appearance is outdated and very tall. It is really annoying to see. It is a design for a military ship, not a pleasure ship.
Yeah it's so basically designed even for a prototype. Also iveco engines? That's is a really cheap choice of engine and they are cheap for a reason.
@@nothingsurprisesmeanymore You're right, maybe as a prototype it's basic. The position of helmsman is "intimidating". Here in Uruguay I saw equipping 6.2 L Mercury engines, most Caterpillar, Volvo, Yanmar, Yamaha, Evinrude, in larger boats some Motor Man, Work in restoration and painting of yachts.
@@nothingsurprisesmeanymoreYou are not very competent in terms of engines. The FPT 6.7 (N67) is the best engine of the class, infact they are selling them with the brand Mercury, Cummins, Yanmar and many others. Iveco produces Trucks, not engines. The motor brand Is FPT (Fiat Powertrain Technologies)
Not digging the helm chair. Too tall and looks cheap. The controls and everything about the bridge is substandard to me.
Ok, I made it to 5:50 and that was enough for me to realize that this was a boat I would never buy. The reviewer was continually making excuses for the boats deficiencies. Even though it was hull #1, the design was generally horrible, as was the fit and finish.
The boat is no where near ready to be shown on the market.
It's way to unfinished to be shown off this much, there are a lot of design changes needed and it doesn't help that they introduce problems, that have been solved a long time ago like the drawers and the horrible satee and helm or the lack of a swim platform. There are a lot more than these easily fixable problems, but these shouldn't need real-world testing, these should have been ironed out in the development phase and never leave the drawing paper. At this state, there are way to many excuses and "they will change it" comment are required from the presenters to make it a positive presentation. Yes it has potential, but i'm not convinced it will ever achieve it. And they should not be commenting about future models until they manage to develop this one into an acceptable state....