Is MSC the Best Entry Path for Maritime Careers? Insights & Alternatives
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- Tonight on 'The Wandering Mariner,' we dive into the crucial question of whether the Military Sealift Command (MSC) is the optimal route for gaining entry-level experience in the maritime industry.
Drawing from my extensive background, I explore the MSC's and Seafarers International Union (SIU)'s entry programs, outlining their strengths and weaknesses. This episode provides a balanced perspective on both paths, emphasizing the hard work and dedication required to succeed in either. Join me as I share valuable insights to help you navigate your maritime career journey.
Thank you so much for answering! Very helpful 👍
Any time!🙂💯
Great info! Thank You!
Thanks for watching
This is great! Where were you 20 Years ago? I tried to figure out how to be a mariner, all was pretty perplexing. I really loved being underway when I was in the Navy. Doing pretty good now but the sea still calls me from my memories.
20 yes ago.... Haze gray and underway. I often reminisce about those days as well.
Evening Sir, I’ve been running down this “merchant mariner” rabbit hole for a few days now and I think I’ve found the person I’d like to ask the real questions to.
A little background, I’m 35, spent 14 years in the Air Force- aircraft armament,avionics and also a machinist by trade and I have an A&P license. Currently working for a contract company on AH-64 Apache helicopters in the armpit of Alabama making really good money. My midlife crisis happens to be that I want a career change, but one that meets my standard of income and brings the happiness of staying on the move like us military guys seem to enjoy. Sitting in one place forever working 8 hours/365 days is not it…
Now with all that said, academy is completely out of the question. I’m not a youngster wet behind the ears. I’d love a good course or program to aim towards an assistant engineer or a “mate” which I haven’t found a course for yet. I feel I’d be a solid fit for engines or deck. 50% of the draw to this career is the Ocean. Looking at it, feeling it, smelling it, being a part which i believe would be good for a Deck guy. I also know my mechanical aptitude would excel me below the decks. Maybe you could point me in a more narrow direction? Also I see all these Unions and groups, you’ve mainly discussed SIU and MSC. Can you lend any direction to MEBA or AMO?
I have 90% of my gi bill remaining to use for school but some courses at places like the STAR center are just for a few day period, I’m not sure how that would work as far as housing stipend.
I know that’s a lot for a comment and I would PM you if there was an option. Thank you for your very informative videos! Definitely have the public speaking thing down to a science.
Respectfully,
Ben W.
Hi Ben,
Thanks for reaching out. Your story resonates with many who find themselves at a crossroads in life, seeking new challenges and a sense of fulfillment. Here’s my perspective on transitioning to a maritime career:
The Calling of the Sea
Starting a mariner career comes with various motivations. Some are institutionalized, some seek adventure, some are bored, some are running from things in life, and some seek a job that pays well. However, it's important to recognize that the maritime industry involves significant sacrifices.
Realistic Expectations
If money is your primary goal, you might want to reconsider. While maritime careers can be financially rewarding, they come with long periods away from home, demanding work conditions, and a unique lifestyle that isn’t for everyone.
Your Background and Fit
Your 14 years in the Air Force and experience with aircraft armament, avionics, and as a machinist give you a solid technical foundation. Your A&P license is a great asset. Here’s a breakdown of paths you could consider:
Engineering Path
If you have a passion for working with machinery and engines:
Training: Look into QMED certification, leading to Assistant Engineer roles. Your technical skills would excel here.
Unions: MEBA and AMO are strong options for engineering roles. They offer robust training and job placement.
Sacrifices: Be prepared for long hours and time away from family, which can be tough but rewarding for those who love the technical challenge.
Deck Path
If you’re drawn to navigation and the open sea:
Training: Start with Ordinary Seaman (OS) or Able Seaman (AB) courses. Look into mate training programs.
Unions: SIU offers structured pathways from entry-level to officer roles.
Sacrifices: Life on deck involves hard physical work and long periods at sea, but for those who love the ocean, it’s worth it.
Using the GI Bill
Housing Stipend: Typically applies to full-time courses. Short courses may have different policies, so check with the VA.
Comprehensive Programs: Consider using your GI Bill for longer programs that offer housing support, such as those at the Paul Hall Center or the Calhoon MEBA Engineering School.
Unions and Groups
SIU: Great for structured training from entry-level to officer roles.
MEBA: Known for its engineering training and job placement.
AMO: Offers training for both deck and engineering officers.
Next Steps
Research: Explore training programs at the Paul Hall Center (SIU) and Calhoon MEBA Engineering School.
Contact Unions: Discuss your goals with SIU, MEBA, and AMO for personalized advice.
Evaluate Sacrifices: Consider the personal and professional sacrifices involved in a maritime career. It’s a demanding industry that requires a strong commitment.
Choosing a maritime career is a significant decision that requires careful consideration of the lifestyle and sacrifices involved. Your skills and experiences will serve you well, but make sure it aligns with your long-term goals and personal values.
Hope this helps!
John
Chief, if possible, can you make a video about MSC's student loan repayment program (SLRP)? i can't decide if I wanna do that or commit to the Navy's SSMP program or both to help pay for maritime academy.
Hey everyone! I've received some questions about MSC's Student Loan Repayment Program (SLRP) and the Navy's SSMP program, especially how they can help pay for maritime academy. Let’s break down the pros and cons of each:
MSC's SLRP (Student Loan Repayment Program):
Pros:
Repays a portion of your student loans, reducing your debt load.
Allows you to work directly with MSC and gain valuable maritime experience.
No service commitment beyond your regular employment with MSC.
Cons:
Limited to certain positions and may have eligibility requirements.
The amount of loan repayment might be capped.
Navy's SSMP (Strategic Sealift Midshipman Program):
Pros:
Provides tuition assistance, stipends, and training opportunities.
Offers a clear pathway to becoming an officer in the Navy Reserve.
Combines academic training with practical maritime experience.
Cons:
Requires a service commitment in the Navy Reserve after graduation.
Balancing academic responsibilities with military training can be challenging.
Both programs offer great benefits depending on your career goals and financial needs. For detailed info, check MSC’s official site and talk to a Navy recruiter to see which fits you best.
Hope this helps! Stay tuned for more details and thanks for watching!
Do you make money in the apprenticeship program In piny point? I'm 35 and getting my passport I have some monthly bills so 6 months to a year of no money might not be doable for me
There is a modest stipend amount.... but most likely will not cover "a living wage" until the at Sea portion. 😒
@@thewanderingmariner would it at least cover like 300 per month? Just to cover minimum payments til sea time
Does NMU still exist. They were around when I worked 1978 to 1984.
The National Maritime Union (NMU) was an American labor union founded in May 1937. It affiliated with the Congress of Industrial Organizations (CIO) in July 1937. After a failed merger with a different maritime group in 1988, the union merged with the Seafarers International Union of North America in 2001.
My AEL application has been sitting waiting review for a month. Is that typical? Ive emailed MSC, they said they were backed up. I know people who got in within 3 months.
Any response/updates?
@@thewanderingmariner Hey! Yes! I received a conditional offer mid June as an OS AP. I'm currently in the background check stage. Here's the thing, I'm also being considered for Yeoman. At this point, just get my foot in the door and I will work it form there .
🙂🙂🙂🥳🥳🥳 Congrats 👏
@@thewanderingmariner Thank you! Update: Waiting to be scheduled for NEO.
Is there an age limit at MSC?
Not really. Just have to pass and remain physically qualified.
Tuition is expensive even for graduate school
They definitely make it hard for you 😔
Merchant Mariner Industry shouldn't complain about Officer Deck Shortage