No, but it is in its death throes...which makes it more desperate. And when people are also desperate...as the great Alfred Pennyworth once said, "You crossed the line first, sir. You squeezed them, you hammered them to the point of desperation. And in their desperation, they turned to a man they didn't fully understand."
Yes, I think one of the important trends is how the typical views of Americans, such as being pro-choice, is being subverted by a minority. The far right christians seem to have much more power than they should.
@stevenmyers6291 yes and they always have, even before America and during colonial times, and even before that in feudal/monarcy europe. This has traditionally been via the threat of either "hell" itself or real life persecution or defamation. These threats are simply waning, humans are growing out of them (most educated people do not feel particularly threatened by "hell" even amongst those who call themselves believers). The defamation is waning, because religion simply commits defamation on itself and it is seen in the media often (priest scandals, cults, Warren Jeffs, etc.). When your blade is dulling, and your crowd gets smaller and smaller...you get desperate. It's a cling to power in the "real" life...trying to leverage a belief in the afterlife as a means to get that power.
You aren't making any real point. It stands to reason that if you are opposed to kings, there is some ratio of wealth inequality that is anti-freedom. For instance, is it okay for 1 person to own all the land or water or control of the money supply? If it's not okay for 1 person to own it all, then why is okay for 10 people to own all of a certain resource? What about 100? Is okay for a country 100 people to have control of all the resources in a country of 200? Obviously communism isn't productive, but neither are kings or monopolies.
@@vagabondcaleb8915 This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what wealth is. Wealth is production, production largely driven by innovation. So yes, if a country existed where only one person worked and produced, and as a result she had all the wealth, then that's a pro freedom position. Now if she was a Christian, she would be obligated to help those in genuine need. If she was an atheist, I presume she would be free to leave them to starve to death. But nowhere does 'inequality' enter into the situation. In no way is it logical to equate unequal with having nothing. A woman worth 100 billion dollars has ten thousand times the worth of someone worth 10 million dollars. It's logical to believe someone worth 10 million is suffering in some way because someone else is worth 100 billion? I don't see where this position constantly asserted is logical at all. Maybe you can clarify.
@bobhill That is a childlike view of wealth. You don't need to have any production to make pure water valuable. I didn't bother reading past the first paragraph because of how naïve it was..
To learn about how the Christian Nationalists gained so much power in government, watch the movie Bad Faith and/or read the book Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism by Bradley Onishi. It's downright frightening.
Really? Women are bleeding out in parking lots due to anti abortion laws? Can she cite even one case of this? I doubt it. Michael didn't even try to push back. People have been complaining that Michael has too close of contact to the right and too many right leaning people on the show. This guest should even out the scales for them.
@@julieann376 Amber went to NC to get meds to abort a child. She had complications after she took the abortion meds. Not before. So in her case if she didn't have the abortion she would still be alive along with her unborn child. Jaci complaint was denied by the Biden admin that Oklahoma abortion laws was the cause of her issue. Carmen just has a story with no proof. 150 million women in the U.S. All these ladies bleeding out yet it's not all over the news to repeal abortion laws.
@@julieann376 : And... were there cases like this before the change in law? Assuming that they would not have happened but for the change in law is a logical leap too far.
They just want the ability to murder their babies. Kamala and Oprah shared a story of a woman that died from a prescribed abortion.. They are willing to die for the ability to kill their babies.
You need to abstract the exercise. A woman /child died because my enemy' s policies : * Let a criminal out of jail * Let an illegal into the nation * Made abortion a judicial ruling taken from doctors The abstract model makes her motivation understandable per an agenda
While the quality of the interviews remains top notch, TH-cam as a platform is less useful than the simple audio download podcast I'm used to getting. It's not as easy to use in the car, and requires additional aps to listen to if I don't want my device screen to stay on and use up my battery. TH-cam also has the annoying habit of inserting commercials in the middle of someone's sentence. Worse, it continues to play ads until I stop what I'm doing and select "skip' to get back to the content.
You don't have to see it through the lense of post modern feminist activism. That's the lense you see it through. I'm a male agnostic and that's the lense I see the rise of christian nationalism through.
The idea laws are created anywhere not based on religions or philosophies or profit or hatred or .... That's exactly how humans work. It's why liberty and voluntary society and live-and-let-live and tolerance of actual diversity works better than having rulers who will always destroy the best world humans can have to have a world that best serves the rulers. Forced unity under threat of punishment is guaranteed to ruin lives.
I couldn’t believe this interview. Within the first five minutes, she was making up total bullshit claims. No pushback. Only Christian extremists are against transitioning, emotionally disturbed children? Hundreds of millions of Americans are against it whether they are religious or not. Women are bleeding out right now? Ridiculous claims.
It was the jewish sanhedrin that wanted jesus taken care of and they enjoined pilate to do so. This is how christians can blame the jews and give a pass to the romans. Myself I don't give much creedence to any of it. We only know about this from the bible. There is no source outside of the bible that confirms or denies this story.
Most of the apostles were Jews .Paul was Jewish And most of early Jesus followers were Jewish . These early Jewish Christians were loyal to there new faith and spread it throughout Israel and the rest of the Roman empire.
My problem with the left and right in her mold is that them mock and slander their adversary - to the state of psychology pleasure of their respective congregation.....that when actual intractable problems in their own space remain unresolved - they both turn back to people like her to explain the condtion to bring them back to mental satiation
Laughable ridiculous claims… I listened to less than five minutes of this podcast-where I couldn’t leave comments-and had to track down the TH-cam version just to respond. Right out of the gate, I heard laughable claims about how only right-wing Christian extremists oppose children transitioning. Seriously? Probably hundreds of millions of Americans-from all kinds of religious and non-religious backgrounds-oppose this. It’s a tiny minority of people who actively support transitioning children, and trying to paint this as some exclusively Christian extremist thing is just ridiculous. Then, as if that wasn’t enough, she goes on to claim that women are dying right now in the U.S. from botched abortions. Whether you’re for or against abortion, this is a crazy, stupid claim. The CDC’s own data shows that abortion-related deaths-whether legal or illegal-are exceptionally rare, especially in 2024. The narrative that women are “bleeding out all over America” is so detached from reality that I had to do a double-take. Judging by other comments, I’m not alone in thinking this is absurd. The fact that Talia Lavin-someone who literally wrote a book-is spouting this nonsense without pushback is shocking. It’s like warning people about scurvy at a juice bar-ridiculous, out of touch, and just plain laughable. In candor, I couldn’t listen to any more of it. But that was enough.
Though very few Americans would describe themselves as Christian nationalists, attention on the movement has grown commensurate with the prospect of a second Trump term. It may seem an odd complaint to lob at Trump, who most Americans see as not religious. He was the first president to campaign openly in support of same-sex marriage for his first term, and he has privately expressed support for legal abortion through the first 16 weeks of pregnancy. But the Democrats campaign on fear and hatred, rather than policies, and, in addition to portraying him as a racist and a fascist, The Democrats would like you to believe that Trump is a scary Christian nationalist. While Trump hysteria may be losing steam, abortion has proven a salient issue for Democrats, credited with several electoral wins since Roe was overturned in 2022. Stirring fears over Christian nationalism helps Democrats marry the abortion issue, a winner across much of the political spectrum, with fears that democracy is under threat, an issue that stirs the progressive base. The greater danger isn’t of an impending “Christian nationalist” takeover, but that the term is being used to discredit Christian participation in the public square, particularly when it comes to advocating for positions that run afoul of liberal priorities. Texas Monthly described Gov. Greg Abbot as a Christian nationalist solely on the basis of his promotion of school choice and his opposition to illegal immigration. Project 2025, a conservative policy game plan being organized by the Heritage Foundation in the event of a Republican win in November, has received similar treatment. “Christian nationalism” doesn’t appear in its documents, but media accounts have attempted to apply the label by attempting to link the project to fringe groups or claiming that its proposals are rife with “Christo-fascist” dog-whistles only detectable to those familiar with the movement. Ultimately, fearmongering about the slur “Christian nationalism” says far more about those who wield it than those they aim to describe. In the “Red Scares” of the 1920s to 1950s, allegations that there was a communist under every rock, tree, bush, government desk, and movie script did little to inform the American public about which people really were communists. But they did inform Americans that the accusers were narrow-minded and intolerant. Similarly, accusations of “Christian nationalism” don’t inform Americans about which politicians, if any, wish to establish a theocracy; but they do help Americans understand that the people making the accusations are anti-Christian, anti-nationalist, and dishonest political opportunists.
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I've always enjoyed reading and listening to Michael Schermer and his guests. Been doing so since the 90's.
No, but it is in its death throes...which makes it more desperate. And when people are also desperate...as the great Alfred Pennyworth once said, "You crossed the line first, sir. You squeezed them, you hammered them to the point of desperation. And in their desperation, they turned to a man they didn't fully understand."
Yes, I think one of the important trends is how the typical views of Americans, such as being pro-choice, is being subverted by a minority. The far right christians seem to have much more power than they should.
@stevenmyers6291 yes and they always have, even before America and during colonial times, and even before that in feudal/monarcy europe.
This has traditionally been via the threat of either "hell" itself or real life persecution or defamation.
These threats are simply waning, humans are growing out of them (most educated people do not feel particularly threatened by "hell" even amongst those who call themselves believers).
The defamation is waning, because religion simply commits defamation on itself and it is seen in the media often (priest scandals, cults, Warren Jeffs, etc.).
When your blade is dulling, and your crowd gets smaller and smaller...you get desperate. It's a cling to power in the "real" life...trying to leverage a belief in the afterlife as a means to get that power.
I guess part of the hardcore Christian nationalists will be getting more extremist, while this exact process turns off the more moderates.
She just posted on X. 'There shouldn't be billionaires'. Yet she's here pretending she's for freedom lol.
You aren't making any real point. It stands to reason that if you are opposed to kings, there is some ratio of wealth inequality that is anti-freedom. For instance, is it okay for 1 person to own all the land or water or control of the money supply? If it's not okay for 1 person to own it all, then why is okay for 10 people to own all of a certain resource? What about 100? Is okay for a country 100 people to have control of all the resources in a country of 200? Obviously communism isn't productive, but neither are kings or monopolies.
@@vagabondcaleb8915 Which billionaires have monopolies in the US and on what? Not being a smartass, just curious?
@jefffriend. Not relevant to what we are discussing. Also, not my job. Not being a smartass; you're just being a dumbass, or at least obtuse.
@@vagabondcaleb8915 This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what wealth is. Wealth is production, production largely driven by innovation.
So yes, if a country existed where only one person worked and produced, and as a result she had all the wealth, then that's a pro freedom position.
Now if she was a Christian, she would be obligated to help those in genuine need. If she was an atheist, I presume she would be free to leave them to starve to death. But nowhere does 'inequality' enter into the situation. In no way is it logical to equate unequal with having nothing.
A woman worth 100 billion dollars has ten thousand times the worth of someone worth 10 million dollars. It's logical to believe someone worth 10 million is suffering in some way because someone else is worth 100 billion? I don't see where this position constantly asserted is logical at all. Maybe you can clarify.
@bobhill That is a childlike view of wealth. You don't need to have any production to make pure water valuable. I didn't bother reading past the first paragraph because of how naïve it was..
To learn about how the Christian Nationalists gained so much power in government, watch the movie Bad Faith and/or read the book Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism by Bradley Onishi. It's downright frightening.
Really? Women are bleeding out in parking lots due to anti abortion laws? Can she cite even one case of this? I doubt it. Michael didn't even try to push back. People have been complaining that Michael has too close of contact to the right and too many right leaning people on the show. This guest should even out the scales for them.
One? Amber Thurman, Jaci Statton, Carmen Broedster. There are others. Thurman died. Look it up.
@@julieann376 Amber went to NC to get meds to abort a child. She had complications after she took the abortion meds. Not before. So in her case if she didn't have the abortion she would still be alive along with her unborn child.
Jaci complaint was denied by the Biden admin that Oklahoma abortion laws was the cause of her issue.
Carmen just has a story with no proof. 150 million women in the U.S. All these ladies bleeding out yet it's not all over the news to repeal abortion laws.
@@julieann376 : And... were there cases like this before the change in law? Assuming that they would not have happened but for the change in law is a logical leap too far.
They just want the ability to murder their babies. Kamala and Oprah shared a story of a woman that died from a prescribed abortion.. They are willing to die for the ability to kill their babies.
You need to abstract the exercise.
A woman /child died because my enemy' s policies :
* Let a criminal out of jail
* Let an illegal into the nation
* Made abortion a judicial ruling taken from doctors
The abstract model makes her motivation understandable per an agenda
While the quality of the interviews remains top notch, TH-cam as a platform is less useful than the simple audio download podcast I'm used to getting. It's not as easy to use in the car, and requires additional aps to listen to if I don't want my device screen to stay on and use up my battery. TH-cam also has the annoying habit of inserting commercials in the middle of someone's sentence. Worse, it continues to play ads until I stop what I'm doing and select "skip' to get back to the content.
Yikes. This should have been titled:
“The Rise of Christian Nationalism - Through the lens of far left post modern feminist activism.”
''The non-existent Rise of Christian nationalism imagined by far-Left oddballs who hate everybody who doesn't hold their moronic ideology''.
You don't have to see it through the lense of post modern feminist activism. That's the lense you see it through.
I'm a male agnostic and that's the lense I see the rise of christian nationalism through.
Perfect.
Abortion destroys entire sexual revolution, redical feminism, transgenderism that's why they're so obsessed with abortion.
The idea laws are created anywhere not based on religions or philosophies or profit or hatred or .... That's exactly how humans work. It's why liberty and voluntary society and live-and-let-live and tolerance of actual diversity works better than having rulers who will always destroy the best world humans can have to have a world that best serves the rulers. Forced unity under threat of punishment is guaranteed to ruin lives.
Michael literally swallowed (whatever was in the cup) the trans kids stuff, instead of asking what rights they imply.
I couldn’t believe this interview. Within the first five minutes, she was making up total bullshit claims. No pushback.
Only Christian extremists are against transitioning, emotionally disturbed children? Hundreds of millions of Americans are against it whether they are religious or not.
Women are bleeding out right now?
Ridiculous claims.
Alex Filippenko did not receive a Nobel prize. He was part of the project but did not receive the prize.
Why would you speak to such an incompetent person?
The universe is expanding? But I live in Brooklyn. Brooklyn is not expanding!😂
It's OK. We are all expanding with it.
wish it would to let me in
@bobcharles7933 it's just a great moment from an old Woody Allen movie😄.
@3:08 "trans kids" ??? No such thing. (I'm a socialist leaning atheist). Bye.
Kids, minors, age depends on the state
why is you camera moving around. I'm getting dizzy
It was the jewish sanhedrin that wanted jesus taken care of and they enjoined pilate to do so. This is how christians can blame the jews and give a pass to the romans.
Myself I don't give much creedence to any of it. We only know about this from the bible. There is no source outside of the bible that confirms or denies this story.
Most of the apostles were Jews .Paul was Jewish
And most of early Jesus followers were Jewish . These early Jewish Christians were loyal to there new faith and spread it throughout Israel and the rest of the Roman empire.
My problem with the left and right in her mold is that them mock and slander their adversary - to the state of psychology pleasure of their respective congregation.....that when actual intractable problems in their own space remain unresolved - they both turn back to people like her to explain the condtion to bring them back to mental satiation
I couldn't agree more, but I am infinitely less articulate. As she was from Harvard can I plaugarise this please.
Laughable ridiculous claims…
I listened to less than five minutes of this podcast-where I couldn’t leave comments-and had to track down the TH-cam version just to respond. Right out of the gate, I heard laughable claims about how only right-wing Christian extremists oppose children transitioning. Seriously? Probably hundreds of millions of Americans-from all kinds of religious and non-religious backgrounds-oppose this. It’s a tiny minority of people who actively support transitioning children, and trying to paint this as some exclusively Christian extremist thing is just ridiculous.
Then, as if that wasn’t enough, she goes on to claim that women are dying right now in the U.S. from botched abortions. Whether you’re for or against abortion, this is a crazy, stupid claim. The CDC’s own data shows that abortion-related deaths-whether legal or illegal-are exceptionally rare, especially in 2024. The narrative that women are “bleeding out all over America” is so detached from reality that I had to do a double-take. Judging by other comments, I’m not alone in thinking this is absurd.
The fact that Talia Lavin-someone who literally wrote a book-is spouting this nonsense without pushback is shocking. It’s like warning people about scurvy at a juice bar-ridiculous, out of touch, and just plain laughable.
In candor, I couldn’t listen to any more of it. But that was enough.
Though very few Americans would describe themselves as Christian nationalists, attention on the movement has grown commensurate with the prospect of a second Trump term. It may seem an odd complaint to lob at Trump, who most Americans see as not religious. He was the first president to campaign openly in support of same-sex marriage for his first term, and he has privately expressed support for legal abortion through the first 16 weeks of pregnancy. But the Democrats campaign on fear and hatred, rather than policies, and, in addition to portraying him as a racist and a fascist, The Democrats would like you to believe that Trump is a scary Christian nationalist.
While Trump hysteria may be losing steam, abortion has proven a salient issue for Democrats, credited with several electoral wins since Roe was overturned in 2022. Stirring fears over Christian nationalism helps Democrats marry the abortion issue, a winner across much of the political spectrum, with fears that democracy is under threat, an issue that stirs the progressive base.
The greater danger isn’t of an impending “Christian nationalist” takeover, but that the term is being used to discredit Christian participation in the public square, particularly when it comes to advocating for positions that run afoul of liberal priorities.
Texas Monthly described Gov. Greg Abbot as a Christian nationalist solely on the basis of his promotion of school choice and his opposition to illegal immigration. Project 2025, a conservative policy game plan being organized by the Heritage Foundation in the event of a Republican win in November, has received similar treatment. “Christian nationalism” doesn’t appear in its documents, but media accounts have attempted to apply the label by attempting to link the project to fringe groups or claiming that its proposals are rife with “Christo-fascist” dog-whistles only detectable to those familiar with the movement.
Ultimately, fearmongering about the slur “Christian nationalism” says far more about those who wield it than those they aim to describe. In the “Red Scares” of the 1920s to 1950s, allegations that there was a communist under every rock, tree, bush, government desk, and movie script did little to inform the American public about which people really were communists. But they did inform Americans that the accusers were narrow-minded and intolerant. Similarly, accusations of “Christian nationalism” don’t inform Americans about which politicians, if any, wish to establish a theocracy; but they do help Americans understand that the people making the accusations are anti-Christian, anti-nationalist, and dishonest political opportunists.
How Ironic that to be a pro choice super champion you need to have survived your mother's choice.