I love Michael Shermer's interviews. He is rare among interviewers, almost never interrupting his guests. Also, he always adds nuggets of wisdom which enriches the blog. Thank you Michael.
As an Arab committed to peace, I have found this conversatiom quite remarkable. Thank you for explaining how antisemitism actually manifests and for indicating a path to peace through transformation rather than force. Respect to you both Michael and Einat.
I wish there were more people like you within the Arab world. The world has so much to offer so let's not waist our time spreading hatred but instead prompt peace and love between people and nations.
@@BirdOf1951 I wish there were more people like me in the Arab world too. We are still small in numbers, but we are increasing! It will take more education and communication to transform our world. Peace is possible.
I really love that this beautiful speech specifically after 1:17 which Ms Einat wif criticize abrahamic religions system and discussed the way of interpretation is important and it can turn the page completely. As an Iranian atheist on the behalf of vast majority of Iranian people I would say we love Israeli people and would like to start our relationship even better than before 1979. The problem is the radical and terrorist islamist regime in Iran which occupied Iran for more than 44 years and is the enemy of Iranians, Israelis, and many other people in the world. This anti human regime also is an enemy with huge culture and civilization of Iran especially before Islam, namely Persian empire, Zarathustrianism,etc. I wish the people of Iran and Israel would start their relationship soon after the collapse of this anti-human regime. This time has come to Cyrus the Great accords.❤ Long live Iran Long live Israel
Well said! Cyrus the great is a notable in our scriptures! Like you… I love the Persian people. They are smart, productive and kind people. Can’t wait to see the two countries friends again and better friends than before! Down with the Ayatollahs! Long live Persia! Vive le Shah et sa famille!
Thank you from Sweden. Einats view has been my view for decades. My father visited Israel days before the war in 1967 and his and my view was the same as Einats already then. PLO and Hamas has declared where they stand from the beginning and you only do not see it if you do not want to see it. Thenk you for a great interview!
Quoting Adolf Hitler in an interview, far-right Israeli politician Moshe Feiglin has described Palestinians as “Islamo-Nazis” and called for Gaza to be turned into “Hebrew Gaza.” “We are not guests in our country. It is our country, all of it,” he told Israel’s Channel 12 on Sunday. “However, we figured a way to deal with them (Palestinians) somehow … But they showed that they represent the deepest form of Islamo-Nazism.” Feiglin added, “And like Hitler, may his name be erased, said: ‘I cannot live in this world if there is one Jew left in it’, we could not live in this land if even one such Islamo-Nazi remains in Gaza, and not before we return to Gaza and turn it into Hebrew Gaza.”
@@eemoogee160 I have the deepest respect of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. But people do not practice their faiths and just abuse religion to create the “otherism”. This is leading to hate in Ish*** that in Texas a 3 year old Muslim kid was being drowned by a Z!0 woman. When we start to attack children we have lost the narrative. And if I question the motive of hate towards children being called anti-Semitic 🤯. For goodness sake this is not how we treated children of Korea or Somalia, so what is different and what changed?
The mainstream media rarely has people on where research and learning is requited before they have them on. It's why you never or almost never see Einat Wilf or Hillel Neuer or Natasha Hausdorff being hosted by mainstream media.
As an Israeli who was brought up on beliving peace between us and the Palestinians Einat expresses so well how I feel. I wanted to belive even when peace groups and meetings from my school didn't work from the Palestinian side, I wanted to belive even after my reletives were injured in 2 terror attacks of Hamas, but after October 7th I got the massage, I started listening to what they say in arabic. She is 100% right.
People need to sort out the hatred in their minds first without that there will never be peace…and however much hate the Israelis have, the Palestinians are off the scale in their hatred…coming from their prophet.
@@Tas2270 Nothing they said was inaccurate: according to polls Hamas did enjoy large support in Gaza, and Islamic scripture does in fact call for Jews to be killed. Just further proof that when people use the word "islamophobia" as you do, it is only meant to intimidate people from expressing uncomfortable facts about Islam that they would rather remain unspoken.
@@mljh11 when you burn Quran and say that their prophet was violent you have crossed the line for uncomfortable option. In Rwanda it was the Muslims that provided protection to Christian parties on both sides. You are playing into otherism because again you don’t recognize as human with right and will to live in freedom. You probably won’t be ashamed of your facism but I am disgusted even having a conversation with you.
The main thing that needs to shift is this ~~ Israel should never again give up territory that is won in a defensive war, beginning with Gaza. 1) Israel lost too much giving up the Sinai. All the weapons and trained soldiers and money, used to empower Hamas, were smuggled through the Sinai. 2) Israel lost too much withdrawing from South Lebanon. Resolution 1701 was NOT enforced by Unifil and now there are hundreds of thousands of rocket there 3) Israel lost too much giving up control of Judea and Samaria to the PA. Hasn't the IDF identified members of the PA, trained and funded by the US, who are terrorists by night? And there are tunnels and explosives 4) Israel lost too much by withdrawing from Gaza in 2005 ~~ look at how that allowed 20 years of military build-up against Israel. 5) Israel almost gave away the Golan Heights, and look what that would have done! Do not withdraw from Gaza ~~ push the boundaries of Israel out to naturally defensible boundaries like rivers and mountains and deserts and oceans, in defensive wars, so there can finally be longterm peace. Anyone who attacks Israel should get pushed back, and should lose land ~~ permanently. Only to the extent that this is legal under international law ~~ would someone please educate us about the relevant international laws concerning this? Why is no one talking about this? Hopefully the man who helped legitimize the Golan Heights can help.
Brilliantly articulated, with the only reservation, that when the focus is on Israel only, one may miss that similar dynamics are already in high gear in the US and Europe. People that were helped and welcomed are already harboring grievances against and rejection of their hosts. I am not as optimistic as Dr. Wilf, I think the problem is far greater, so great that most people just keep their eyes shut.
Its a quandry that Jewish lobby faces. They supported DEI because it favours everyone, but now that DEI populations see the Jewish unfairness they are inclined against j- power hence now the j-lobby is against DEI
Wow. This is clearly by far the best analysis of the conflict I have come across to date. Tough stuff indeed, but extraordinarily eye-opening and thought-provoking. How long are we as Western countries and democratic societies going to nourish blatantly flawed ideas about the causes of the conflict which cannot stand to scrutiny? How long are we going to indulge false excuses that enchain an entire people in a state of victimhood and non-responsibility? And finally, how long are we going to waste billions of dollars for keeping alive a deeply corrupt and rotten system whose only purpose is the perpetuation of war against Israel? The path that leads to true peace is hard and stony because it involves issues that are beyond the usual sphere of political activity, beyond the realm of negotiations and compromise. But if we put in it all the energy and resources we are currently wasting while cutting off all possible subterfuges, we can eventually succeed. By all means, we should try it.
Ish*** propaganda book was published in 1980 for liberals in West, she speaks out of that when speaking to western media and entirely different in Hebrew. Ish*** was created out of violance and suicide bombing, and it was the first action of UN that it now demonizes and ignore. But again none of this would matter to you because you think Palestinians are savages. As long as you would never think of me as an equal or ignore my freedom there will be no peace. it is as simple as that.
I've often been asked if Israel is bigger than Texas. When I explain its about the size of New Jersey it becomes apparent few know how small NEW JERSEY is.
@@practice4523 Frankly, I much prefer her propaganda to the propaganda coming out of Iran and Qatar. What Einat says makes sense for a secular-minded person who wants peace. Much more logical than the Islamist/ leftist garbage.
@@practice4523what's the difference between what you define as propaganda and truthful information? Her message is hard to hear BUT affects the entire world. It's a horrible truth having to accept the active hate towards global Jewry, all Christians and the entire West BUT buying her book for support is just the beginning.
@@luckieolp i have listened to her many times and the only truthful thing she said was that you guys are asking too much of the plstns, claiming that your God gave you their houses was just "too much to ask"
In full disclosure, I am an unapologetic American political conservative and Gentile Zionist. I am a vocal advocate for Israel and the Jewish people inside and outside of Israel. I'm embarrassed to admit that before watching this remarkably compelling interview with the stellar Einat Wilf, I had never heard of her! As an avid amateur scholar of the strategic history of the Middle East and a US Naval War College Graduate and retired combat veteran, it is inexplicable that I've just now discovered her. My bad. As far as domestic politics are concerned, she and I could not be much farther apart, but more importantly we are in complete agreement on her views about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, its origins, its modern history, its current status, and potential resolution. On the other hand, we are polar opposites on domestic politics in Israel, and probably by inference, America too. Again, unapologetically, I am a huge fan of Benjamin Netanyahu and his economic and political philosophy. In my view, and clearly not in Einat's, he is the most effective and positively consequential politician and Prime Minister in Israel's history, with the possible exceptions of David Ben Gurion and Golda Meir. I completely agree with Netanyahu's deeply controversial position that Israel's judicial system desperately needs to be reformed for the government to be democratically manageable. The American Founders wisely created our three independent branches of government with a clearly defined system of checks and balances to prevent any one of them from becoming too powerful. You cannot effectively govern when the unelected judicial branch of goverment transforms itself into a second and supreme legislative body as has happened in Israel, regardless of whether that second legislature acts in accordance with one's personal ideological agenda or not. I acknowledge that Einat would vehemently disagree with my position. I am however puzzled by the fact that Einat was able to abandon her acknowledged leftwing position about land for peace and a two state solution, without a concomitant shift in her socialist domestic ideology. Regardless, there is no question that she and I could agree to disagree without being disagreeable on domestic politics while being in total solidarity about the correct course for Israel to follow on the vastly more important question of Israel's self defense and future national security policy. That is an existential necessity! We can argue about politics later after relative peace returns.
She is brilliant but only human, and as a European I can vouch that socialism is running deep, it's a secular religion, no amount of evidence can sway any meaningful minority of people in this area from attributing godly motivations and intentions(and thus obligations) to the state, or worse the EU institutions. My peeve with Dr. Wilf, is that, when she is going to be heard, if at all, in any significant numbers, her limited message may detract from the fact that the intolerance to people in their land started in Israel, but today is not restricted to it. What starts with the Jews doesn't end with them.
Israel’s current assault on Gaza is but an accelerated version of a process that has been ongoing for decades. Gaza’s plight is not the result of failed aspirations or a lack of effort on the part of its people. It is a direct consequence of Israel’s relentless project of subjugation. That is why conversations about the “day after” must recognize that there can be no future while Israeli occupation persists. If Israel had truly wanted Palestinians to turn Gaza into a thriving economic hub, it would at least have let them export oranges
@@maryquirke5479 I wish it were the case that all Israel had/has to do for Gaza to have a booming economy was to permit unlimited exports. Unfortunately, this is fantasy. Building a local economy within its borders was always a possibility. How do you imagine civilizations sustained themselves before trade? Even with the advent of interstate trade, states maintained control of their essential until very, very recently. Besides, all the funds Gazans would have raised through exports have been donated for the last 20 years. Again unfortunately, the money was spent on building tunnels rather than investing in infrastructure and the local economy. Why would it have been any different if those monies were raised via exports?
I don’t foresee Israel ever becoming a truly socialist country. Us Jews are way too competitive for that and have relied on meritocracy to survive for thousands of years. That being said, it is absolutely ingrained in us that we must care for the least among us. Abraham fed the stranger before he fed himself, after all. Things like universal health care are not debatable. Mandatory military service and our small numbers create a sense of community that is hard to achieve in large countries. Every Israeli is at most, one degree of separation from 10/07.
The worst indictment of the Israeli State is that most of them have no idea of the peril they live under . Probably even Einat does not understands that the worst outcome for the Palestinian people would be a state of their own . They'd have no clue what to do with it and so they'd turn to doing what they know best, what affords their single minded existence a defined purpose.
This is the only cogent explanation of the Palestinian Israeli situation that I have ever heard. Everything else I’ve heard sounds like obscurantist bullshit in comparison. Thank you Einat and thank you, Michael Shermer, for giving her the time to lay out her ideas and evidence so thoroughly. Brilliant!
Somewhere in my ancestry, lies Jewishness. I felt the call to my Jewish soul decades ago. I went to temple for a year, studied basic Hebrew, celebrated the holidays. Pesach I went to an orthodox dinner. It was so fun!! I consider Jews my family. Growing up I remember the conflicts between Palestinians and Jews. I researched these things on my own. I found Robert Spencer, Alan Dershowitz, Hillel Neuer, and many others. I am firmly supportive of a Jewish state, sovereign and self determining. Bless your work Dr. Wilf
Some are of the conviction that the UN is just misguided and a bit of truth will dissipate the fog from it's eyes. Others watched it long enough to understand that its motivational structures are such as to create and support such rot. No flowers are going to bloom in the UN it wasn't designed for that.
A very naive perspective of the "UN". Most of the countries in it are united by their "religion". Otherwise there's nothing united about this organisation.
The only thing missing in this wonderful discussion is examination of Islamic texts that detail the harsh treatment of both Jews and Christians. As an Egyptian Jew, Bat Yeor has for years dealt with the issue of Dhimmitude in her writings.
When will we realize that we are all humans sharing the earth ? Nations should go forward and live in peace for the welfare of the children. UN should be abolished, it doesn't serve its purpose which was to unite the nations.
I've found you the Palestinian who unequivocally and publicly declares not only his agreement with Einat's principles of "constructive specificity" in resolving the key issues that have sustained the Arab claims of "return" but who is also unapologetically alligned with the morality of the Jewish state in its ancestral homeland. He is Mosab Yousef, the son of a cofounder of Hamas. His is the most powerful voice in the world today for Israel's sovereignty and flourishing right where it exists today. I realize that Mosab is just one advocate for reason and truth, but he speaks with the voice of the lion. I'm sure that Einat and Michael are well aware of Mosab and his very courageous and public campaign, but I just thought it important to make it known to Michael's audience.
He is a lion, a real life super hero. Also morally and cognitively. So many less evolved people believe morality is doing whatever the rest of "your people" are doing. No right or wrong, just sheep mentality, be it anti-Israelis or anti-Ukrainians. They choose to focus on the work of destroying others rather than the hard work of building themselves up, as Einat notes.
Yes he is amazing and saw it from the inside and to the reply be Ow if selling out a people who are violent and act immorally, hurting themselves first and then so many others, yes it’s best to sell out your own people. Keeping the company of fools tends to make oneself a fool. Mosab put his own life on the line to help save many lives and killed no one. He is a rare and admiral being.
@@practice4523 You mean the people that literally and metaphorically raped him, turned their back on him, betrayed him, and then tried to kill him? It's no wonder he turned on their scumbag jihadist society. He prevented many suicide bombings and saved a lot of lives. And stop using the word genocide like you know what it means.
@bearowen5480 You must be kidding! Mosab Youseb is a poor maniac with severe mental issues (paternal trauma syndrome) who became a Mossad informant in order to hurt his father's feelings. Do not be under any illusions, such a charcter is ready to say anything one wants him for a few shekels, dollars or rubles, for paying his drugs. All he can is spreading the same Hasbara lies and repeating the same Israeli talking points on every TV show. If this clown is in your opinion “the most powerful voice for Israel’s sovereignty" things are looking pretty bad for Israel. And if you really think "Mosab Youseb is an advocate of reason and truth” you urgently need psychological help! 😢
Einat is an excellent speaker ... She knows so much about the history of the Jewish State. I do not miss all the interviews, lectures of this Lady ..so informative and very simple to underdstand Thank you Ma'am ...
From my perspective, the mainstream media holds a lot of responsibility for the rise in anti-Jewish sentiment. In my experience in Portugal, the news is biased, with ill-informed reporters and opinion makers. Some seem lazy and fail to educate themselves about history, and about the history of conflict in the region, simply copying and pasting news without proper scrutiny. Others appear to have a strong far-left-wing orientation. In Portugal, the majority of mainstream media is biased and leans far to the left, greatly influenced by the communist parties in the country. While I don't believe the citizens themselves are anti-Jewish-in fact, we are proud of our Jewish-Christian identity and values-the media is aligned with the far left and gives incredible room to communist party voices - which has created the idea that the society might be anti-Jewish, and even anti-portuguese traditional values and identity. There is a significant gap between the media and the citizens, with journalists living in a bubble of far-left ideology.
i wish Einat would read this (i know she’s unlikely to…). But every time i listen to her speak - she’s utterly brilliant. And the interviewer has also done a fine job here as well.
@@practice4523 You are correct. Israel displayed a miserable intelligence failure on Oct7. But you are also making Dr. Wilf’s point for her: Palestinians are a highly capable people. They are NOT a charity basket case. They just have a truly sick culture; completely mobilized to the destruction of a neighboring state. If they succeed (as they have, on 10/7) - it’s a token of their exceptional capabilities. They should also take some responsibility for their abject poverty, misery and suffering. Geniuses can also be sick and suicidal. That’s the story of the Palestinian people.
@@practice4523 It proved the brutality of one side, and the naive trust of the other side that nobody could possibly be so unimaginably brutal. That's all it proved to many of us. If your favourite word to rebut this is "islamophobia", so be it: it has made an "islamophobe" of me.
I would love to see Eina interviewed by Candace Owens and Kim Iverson, so she could set them straight on the reality of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
They wouldn't dare: they don't have the matching intellect to be able to debate. They have decided on their team and "wear the scarf so tightly about their necks that it cuts off the blood-flow to their brains" with thanks to Mr James O'Brien for this quotation, though used in a different context.
55:17 This war presents several binaries including: 1.) Either the majority of the Gazans are with Hamas, or Israel is liberating them. There is an abundance of evidence for the former. Not only have Gazans allowed their homes, schools, and hospitals to be militarized, there has been no civil disobedience or armed resistance against H. Even today, when there is nothing stopping the civilians from turning on Hamas, or at least participating in subterfuge, we don’t see it. 2.) Either this type of warfare - whereby you invade another country and then hide among your civilians to avoid retaliation - becomes normalized and ubiquitous, or we make it very clear this behavior is a dead end. Who wants to live in a world where this becomes how wars are fought? 3.) Palestinians are either going to keep starting and losing wars in the pursuit of Israel’s annihilation, or they’re going to accept and live. The choice is theirs. We can help them construct a national identity centered around something other than the delusion of “return,” but ultimately they are the agents of their future.
1:03:11 - All of those alternatives mentioned do not solve the problem of Palestinian terrorism. The reality needs to be repeated over and over and over as many times as the lies from Hamas and the extremist jihadi narrative. Bottom line is that Palestinian society, it's culture must be changed in the same way as Germany and Japan were - completely turned around - and in the midst of all those other Arab nations where terrorist supporters and sympathizers exist - how is it possible to do that. The Palestinians were dedicated by the Arab states to harass and attack Israel and to ultimately destroy it - and they will not give up until or unless they are gone.
No, I disagree. What Israel needs is not socialism. What it needs, after ensuring its own national security first and foremost, is a thriving market economy and sweeping judicial reform. Einat would oppose both.
@ren5715 Satire? Israel no longer needs a new president, Netanyahu is the last president of this cruel experiment that will soon disappear into the dustbin of history.
Thank you for sharing Einat Wilf with the world Michael Shermer. A riveting, tough & practical exploration of the necessary ideological & cultural transformation needed to achieve true peace. Einat clearly & succinctly explains that what is needed is a complete transformation of Arab, Muslim & Palestinian understanding that Jewish self-determination is compatible with a proud Arab identity. Historically & to this day, Palestinians regard living next to a Jewish state as a mark of shame. Their ethos has been clearly repeated for decades - from water to water means a single Arab state that must replace Israel. The required transformation for peace will entail viewing two states as a mark of honour. As she says, you can’t pay people to change their values, they have to want to go through this transformation, aided by moderate & modern Arab & Muslim countries & people. The data shows that all offers of a two state solution to date have been rejected by the Palestinians. Their public message is consistent, and the West has not yet taken their stated ideology seriously. We’ve been “Westplaining” by saying they don’t really mean what they say.
You all talk like we live in times without internet or that you can distort history books like we live in old Greece, where you can lie yourself as the winner through the history books. Just read the article from Save the children one month before October 7th. RAMALLAH, 18 Sept 2023 - At least 38 Palestinian children have been killed by Israeli forces in the occupied West Bank so far in 2023, making it the deadliest year since records began, said Save the Children. Or times of Israel article quote "For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces The premier’s policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from".
Reinterpreting Islam to support Israel (re: Abraham accords ) is reminiscent of the 1962 papal reinterpretation of Christianity to allow conceptualizing a common Judeo Christian tradition. That could take a while ….
How is Netanyahu bungling the war?! It is the most innovative in the process of protecting civilians, it has achieved and continues to achieve its goals. It found out that Egypt was allowing smuggling of arms etc through its border…. What the hell!!!?
The father of modern Palestinian nationalism AL-AMAN-HUSSANI met with Hitler and Himmler in 1941&1943 topic of discussion was the Final solution. There are historical news reels of these meetings for anyone to see and hear. Hitler permitted this guy to organize Nazi Islamic brigades in Ukraine and Yugoslavia. They fought for Hitler against the allies. They served as guards in the concentration death camps, after his death, his evil apprentice Yasser Arafat becomes leader of the PLO and calls for holy war in the name of the Cresent moon god allah, for the extermination of Israel and the Jewish people. Arafat died a billionaire.
@@LosNavenautasThe Arabs living in Palestine, better known as Israel, are not from one nation. All this rot about ethnicity is nothing but a fantasy. Every nation is made up of a mixture of "ethnicities", by which, I suppose, people mean genes. If this were not the case, humanity would have perished long ago. This is the reason close relatives are not encouraged to have relations and reproduce, simply because without a good mix you end up with genetic disorders, both physical and mental. So I really think we need to cut the crap about ethnicity. Nations are held together by shared cultures, not genes.
Great speaker! But there is one misconception: we the catholic do not hold jews as the killer of Jesus, He came to give His life for ALL of us. We could never hate jews because: Mary and Jesus were jews We have the first and foremost commandment: "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God (...)and Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself” For us catholics, jews are our eldest brothers in the faith.
59:54 Norway recognizing Palestine as a State is "Schrödinger's State" ?? Schrödinger's Cat is a famous thought experiment that demonstrates the idea in quantum physics that tiny particles can be in two states at once until they're observed. It asks you to imagine a cat in a box with a mechanism that might kill it. Until you look inside, the cat is both alive and dead at the same time.
@@tatonemio6388 They specified they didn´t want a two-state solution, during current circumstances. It was a goal to work towards. Most of the, if not all of the european states that recognized Palestine as a state had similair reservations.
I find it hard to get a grip on antisemitism. The war in 2014 however, made me understand something is wrong with my at the time political side. It made me start a drift towards conservatism. I also in spite travel to Israel during that conflict. This is time its worse. I feel it in my stomach. The lefties claim they are only reacting to the humaniterian situation. Anticolonialism,capitalism,racism and xenophilia. And I am learning anti semittisme is what really animates the lefties. The muslims have a deep religious, nationalistic and ethnic rage as well. In my town there is a hole where a jewish community should have been. Some of my family where guillty of their deaths. I remember and I will do what I can for my fellow people og Israel. Love from Norway( a political narsisistic people).
From 1949 until 1967 Jordan occupied the West Bank and East Jerusalem while Egypt occupied Gaza. The Egyptian government was a dictatorship. Jordan was a monarchy. Neither Egypt nor Jordan had any intention of leaving the occupied territories. Why didn’t Palestinian “resistance fighters'' attack Jordan and Egypt? Why didn’t anyone recognize a Palestinian State? What about the Palestinian right of national self determination? What about full democratic human rights for Palestinians? Only when Jews occupied East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza in 1967, which they did and will continue to do so because it is necessary for Israel’s survival, did it become an international crisis and Jews became the targets of constant terrorist attacks and international condemnation.
I ask this all the time. The free Palestine people repeatedly say "for 75 years..." They have no clue that Israel did not control Gaza and "the West Bank" for almost 20 years.
@@gheller2261I ask this all the time. It is time to not demand what Palestinians should think. The Palestinian goal to undo Jewish sovereignty is not by any means immoral just like the Algerians were not wrong to give up their territories which Israeli leaders supported. Yes they supported a 2 state solution in Algeria.
@@JacobStein1960 Israel is fundamentally genocidal. They have been massacring Palestinians and stealing their land for 76 years. IDF soldiers wear patches showing “greater Israel” which is a confession of future massacres, invasions, genocides and land thefts Israel has planned for the years ahead. Please don’t be stupid enough to accept Israel’s claims those other countries, whose lands Israel plans to steal, start those future fights. Israel controls other people’s terrorist groups and uses them to create false provocations which Israel them uses as grounds “to defend themselves” by which they actually mean bombing civilians.
@@gheller2261 They still controlled it by controlling everything coming in or out, controlling food, fuel, electricity and by controlling records and taxation. But Israel tells lies and Americans just lap ‘em up and ask for more.
Here’s example of another cause and affect reversal. The blockade on Gaza was imposed after Hamas was voted into power but we keep hearing the Gazans are resisting because it’s an “open air prison”. SMH
Not quite. Israel (and others) imposed *sanctions* after Hamas was elected. The blockade was imposed after they slaughtered Fatah. Never mind the thousands of rockets fired into Israel in the two years before the blockade…
עינת תודה על הכל טוב לשמוע תובנות ממי שהתפכחה וראתה את הסכסוך משני צידי המתרס. הצעד הבא יהיה חזרה לפוליטיקה. צריכים אנשים איכותיים ומשכילים בקבלת ההחלטות
The question that I never get an answer to: Inshalla; as Allah wills Isn’t it clear that Allah wills that Israel exist? They have won every war that you have brought to them. How could that be against Allahs will? It is clearly Allahs will that Arab Muslim Israelis have the highest standard of living in the region. So, is it Inshalla only when Allah gives you what you want? Is Allah your servant.. or are you Allahs servant?
@@practice4523 Funny you say that because I have an Italian catholic friend and his dad believes that the catholic church is the real successors of the roman empire and he is not the only one.
@@16uy9aming4 The Roman Catholic Church is indeed a remnant of the Roman Empire, just like Roman Dutch Law, Latin nomenclature etc, but my point is that the actual power of Rome is gone, Italy is obviously not a world power. And again If Rome was still around then that Middle Eastern state wouldn't
Wow! Einat is an Israeli ROCKSTAR! Her historical explanation of the origins of the current anti-Israel movement, the Palestinian problem, and of Antisemitism is the most persuasive one that I've heard to date. In the widespread internet discussions and presentations searching for explanations of the Israeli security failure of October 7th, hers is the most cogent and believable, actually profound, and her experience in military intelligence gives it the imprimatur of authority. I have a relatively minor bone to pick with her. In her explanation of one source of minority American anti-Israel feeling she cites the Corey Bush example of blaming US foreign aid to Israel for the failure of Congress to pass "universal healthcare" legislation. Parenthetically she slipped in her personal view that US failure to have "universal healthcare" was an "abomination". That reveals her personal domestic political orientation as a socialist. Israel has a domestic history of being strongly socialist. Jewish refugees from the USSR, among others, brought with them a bias toward socialist policies in a number of governance realms, not the least of which was big government, including "universal healthcare". It can be argued that the institution of socialism in the history of Israel demonstrably held the country back economically and socially until Benjamin Netanyahu, as Finance Minister in a Likud-led government, introduced sweeping free market economic reforms that turned Israel into a business powerhouse on the world stage, and one of the most affluent per capita societies on earth. Later Einat undercuts her socialist views by linking "Utopianism" to Antisemitism within the current context of global opposition to Israel. Universal healthcare is a significant element of the Utopian ideal. My view is that socialism is in fact "an abomination", and that there are many examples in the world today of countries which have adopted a goverment-run universal healthcare model which has led to an actual failure to deliver quality healthcare to their citizens. I give you the examples of Britain, Canada, Cuba, and a host of others where rationing is rampant, delays in treatment endemic, and the care ultimately delivered being subpar in comparison to more free market medical systems like that in the United States. As I said, in the big scheme of things related to geopolitical events in the Middle East at the moment, this is a small bone to pick within the context of Einat's otherwise brilliant and compelling views. I have immense respect and admiration for this remarkable woman, and I hope that this outstanding interview by Michael Shermer receives the widest possible dissemination.
If socialism means caring for all members of a society, I'm all for it. Unfortunately like every good idea humanity has ever had, it's often abused and degraded.
@@maltija1 Socialism is an emotionally derived concept that has never worked anywhere it's been tried. It always leads to economic collapse, suppression of individual freedom, and if not reversed, ultimately mass incarceration and death. Free market capitalism is the only societal system that has created pluralistic economic flourishing and individual freedom in the history of humankind.
I find it interesting that the Arabs, who descended from Abraham and Hagar, have such an antipathy for their half-brother, Isaac, son of Abraham and Sarah.
Whatever she says ..I’m only a few minutes in but respect her enormously from what I heard her say in other interviews and to the UN ….but you can only achieve peace when people know and want to get rid of the hate in their minds…this requires education and a good ethical leader, an understanding of cause and effect and how much more beautiful life can be if you take responsibility for the hatred in your mind, without blame and then follow the hard but amazingly liberating path to eternal peace within.
@@enshrinehd Not yet. I plan to. My comment was about how Michael titles these videos. The first hour doesn't cover the subject indicated by the title.
@@stephenmcgrail7661 spoiler alert, Einat doesn’t believe in peace and contrary to what she says here, she never has. If you go back through her talks and speeches going back decades, she is not a good faith peace seeker. She is a decoy that pretends to reflect a more pacific side of Israeli politics while always supporting laws and policies that seek to undermine Palestinian existence.
The word Palestine comes from the word Philistine. The Philistines originally migrated from the Greek isles into Canaan. They inhabited Gaza. They were not Semitic or Arab people. They were arch enemies of the twelve tribes of Israel. They disappeared as a culture and people during the reign of King Uzziah of Israel.
@@YogaladyToronto The people who claim to be Philistines (Palestinian) today are actually Jordanian Arabs, mostly. Some are Egyptian and Syrian. The Bible gives detailed geographical dimensions of the land promised to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The only time in history God promised real-estate to a people. The Arab lineage has always had a ancient jealousy for Israel because of the Abrahamic covenant. The blessing went from Abraham to Isaac, not Ishmael. That ancient jealousy, turned into a ancient hatred when Islam was invented. Islam is a bastardized version of Judaism mixed with Babylonian astrology and Zoroastrianism. It's brought spiritual darkness to the middle east. Satan's greatest masterpieces are Catholicism and Islam. Both of these religious performance systems have always hated the Jewish people. The reason the world hates Israel is simple. The Oracles of God were given to them exclusively. The redeemer of the world would come through Israel. The Lion from the tribe of Judah, Messiah, "I AM" King of the Jews. He will sit on Mount Zion one day.
I wondering how we can reduce the number of Americans who suffer from the delusion that they have some stake in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and help them return to doing what they know how to do best. Shutting up and watching bad shows on Netflix while they grow wider. Saving such conversations for intelligent, well-informed folks like Michael Shermer and company😄
There are fallacies and misunderstandings! Most of the population of North Africa are not Arabs, nor is a large portion of the population of the Mesopotamia region. They are described as Arabs because of the Arabic language that spread due to the Islamic religion, and basically the Arabic language is a mixture of several languages. In fact, the history of the Jews in the region dates back to before the spread of the Arabic language! Also, Judaism is a religion, not a race (can you understand?!), and those who are described as Arabs because of the Arabic language are the ones who protected the Jews over thousands of years. The Arabs of the Arabian Peninsula and some residents of the Mesopotamian region are brothers of the Jews (Judaism is a religion, not a race), and the Semites include Jews and Arabs (the Semites are a race and have nothing to do with religion!). What is promoted in the media is caused by ignorance and backwardness! The Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip may be more Semitic than those who claim to be Semitic because of their embrace of the Jewish religion!
Anti-semite ! can’t you comprehend?! Judaism is a religion not a race, Converting to Judaism will not make you a Semitic race! Can’t you comprehend?! Jews and Arabs have the same origin but separated by religions. So-called Anti-semite is a term invented by some Zionists to terrorise other (the people of gods are superior to humans).
Anti-semite ! can’t you comprehend?! Judaism is a religion not a race, Converting to Judaism will not make you a Semitic race! Can’t you comprehend?! Jews and Arabs have the same origin but separated by religions. So-called Anti-semite is a term invented by some Zionists to terrorise other (the people of gods are superior to humans).
@@yanivreif7379 Anti-semite ! can’t you comprehend?! Judaism is a religion not a race, Converting to Judaism will not make you a Semitic race! Can’t you comprehend?! Jews and Arabs have the same origin but separated by religions. So-called Anti-semite is a term invented by some Zionists to terrorise other (the people of gods are superior to humans).
Anti-semite ! can’t you comprehend?! Judaism is a religion not a race, Converting to Judaism will not make you a Semitic race! Can’t you comprehend?! Jews and Arabs have the same origin but separated by religions. So-called Anti-semite is a term invented by some Zionists to terrorise other (the people of gods are superior to humans).
The Abu Awad family are the Palestinian Mandelas. And as Much as I agree with much of what she says it’s not quite so black and white. Much Israel could have done to support healing too. Not making moral equivalence. Just saying both could do more and I pray they will. 🙏🏼💚
The name of this channel is called "skeptic." I thought you would talk about aliens, psychic phenomenon, science and science denial and most importantly: "Evidence." So where is the scientific Skepticism?
It’s quite incredible that it took this “really smart woman“ with tons of college degrees, intifadas in the early 2000s, and the October 7 holocaust, to realize the simplicity that Mayer Kahana understood in the 1970s and 80s and was yelling from the rooftops but no one would listen. And of course, she won’t even dare quote his name even though she’s quoting him the whole time.
I love Michael Shermer's interviews. He is rare among interviewers, almost never interrupting his guests. Also, he always adds nuggets of wisdom which enriches the blog. Thank you Michael.
Thanks for listening
Listen to what Dave Cole had to say about Michael Shermer on one of his TH-cam videos.
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She's amazing. I can't believe how much I've learned in the space of 100 minutes.
As an Arab committed to peace, I have found this conversatiom quite remarkable. Thank you for explaining how antisemitism actually manifests and for indicating a path to peace through transformation rather than force. Respect to you both Michael and Einat.
I wish there were more people like you within the Arab world. The world has so much to offer so let's not waist our time spreading hatred but instead prompt peace and love between people and nations.
@@BirdOf1951 I wish there were more people like me in the Arab world too. We are still small in numbers, but we are increasing! It will take more education and communication to transform our world. Peace is possible.
@@Yasnoor1 we share this dream. Just imagine what a world this could be.
@@BirdOf1951 a peaceful middle east would be the best place on earth
Imagine US didn’t veto peace for once UN resolution was enforced for once.
Imagine the world putting the colonial genocide leaders in their place.
I really love that this beautiful speech specifically after 1:17 which Ms Einat wif criticize abrahamic religions system and discussed the way of interpretation is important and it can turn the page completely.
As an Iranian atheist on the behalf of vast majority of Iranian people I would say we love Israeli people and would like to start our relationship even better than before 1979.
The problem is the radical and terrorist islamist regime in Iran which occupied Iran for more than 44 years and is the enemy of Iranians, Israelis, and many other people in the world.
This anti human regime also is an enemy with huge culture and civilization of Iran especially before Islam, namely Persian empire, Zarathustrianism,etc.
I wish the people of Iran and Israel would start their relationship soon after the collapse of this anti-human regime. This time has come to Cyrus the Great accords.❤
Long live Iran
Long live Israel
Well said! Cyrus the great is a notable in our scriptures!
Like you… I love the Persian people. They are smart, productive and kind people.
Can’t wait to see the two countries friends again and better friends than before!
Down with the Ayatollahs! Long live Persia!
Vive le Shah et sa famille!
Cyrus the great accord is such a great name for the peace agreement between Iran and Israel to come.
Einat Wilf is pretty awesome. Her recent videos about UNRWA are fascinating and very eye opening.
Thank you from Sweden. Einats view has been my view for decades. My father visited Israel days before the war in 1967 and his and my view was the same as Einats already then. PLO and Hamas has declared where they stand from the beginning and you only do not see it if you do not want to see it. Thenk you for a great interview!
Did you bother even reading the 2018 Israeli constitution? 🤯
@@Tas2270No, sorry. I did not. Thank you for the information. I will read it.
Quoting Adolf Hitler in an interview, far-right Israeli politician Moshe Feiglin has described Palestinians as “Islamo-Nazis” and called for Gaza to be turned into “Hebrew Gaza.”
“We are not guests in our country. It is our country, all of it,” he told Israel’s Channel 12 on Sunday. “However, we figured a way to deal with them (Palestinians) somehow … But they showed that they represent the deepest form of Islamo-Nazism.”
Feiglin added, “And like Hitler, may his name be erased, said: ‘I cannot live in this world if there is one Jew left in it’, we could not live in this land if even one such Islamo-Nazi remains in Gaza, and not before we return to Gaza and turn it into Hebrew Gaza.”
@@eemoogee160 I have the deepest respect of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. But people do not practice their faiths and just abuse religion to create the “otherism”. This is leading to hate in Ish*** that in Texas a 3 year old Muslim kid was being drowned by a Z!0 woman. When we start to attack children we have lost the narrative. And if I question the motive of hate towards children being called anti-Semitic 🤯. For goodness sake this is not how we treated children of Korea or Somalia, so what is different and what changed?
@@Tas2270 I agree 💯
Einat youre amazing! Unrivaled clarity.
Einat Wilf is an excellent speaker and very factual.
She is brilliant. Anyone who isn’t reading and listening to her is missing out. I hope she returns to elected office
She knows what she is talking about. Too bad she is ignored by the mainstream media.
The mainstream media rarely has people on where research and learning is requited before they have them on. It's why you never or almost never see Einat Wilf or Hillel Neuer or Natasha Hausdorff being hosted by mainstream media.
World treasure. This who Dr Einat is.
Terrorist mouthpiece more like.
As an Israeli who was brought up on beliving peace between us and the Palestinians Einat expresses so well how I feel.
I wanted to belive even when peace groups and meetings from my school didn't work from the Palestinian side, I wanted to belive even after my reletives were injured in 2 terror attacks of Hamas, but after October 7th I got the massage, I started listening to what they say in arabic. She is 100% right.
People need to sort out the hatred in their minds first without that there will never be peace…and however much hate the Israelis have, the Palestinians are off the scale in their hatred…coming from their prophet.
Politicians in the West also want to believe that Palestinians just want their freedom 😢, the bomb is ticking though....
@@theinngu5560 Islamophobic much?
@@Tas2270 Nothing they said was inaccurate: according to polls Hamas did enjoy large support in Gaza, and Islamic scripture does in fact call for Jews to be killed. Just further proof that when people use the word "islamophobia" as you do, it is only meant to intimidate people from expressing uncomfortable facts about Islam that they would rather remain unspoken.
@@mljh11 when you burn Quran and say that their prophet was violent you have crossed the line for uncomfortable option. In Rwanda it was the Muslims that provided protection to Christian parties on both sides. You are playing into otherism because again you don’t recognize as human with right and will to live in freedom. You probably won’t be ashamed of your facism but I am disgusted even having a conversation with you.
Important conversation. Thank you both for investing your time to share this message.
Fantastic interview, thank you
He's a terrible interviewer. Einat Wilf is just a really good guest.
I admire this woman!!!! so clever, so sharp, so.......wow
In 2019 she attacked child, you admire a child beater, disgusting.
The main thing that needs to shift is this ~~ Israel should never again give up territory that is won in a defensive war, beginning with Gaza. 1) Israel lost too much giving up the Sinai. All the weapons and trained soldiers and money, used to empower Hamas, were smuggled through the Sinai. 2) Israel lost too much withdrawing from South Lebanon. Resolution 1701 was NOT enforced by Unifil and now there are hundreds of thousands of rocket there 3) Israel lost too much giving up control of Judea and Samaria to the PA. Hasn't the IDF identified members of the PA, trained and funded by the US, who are terrorists by night? And there are tunnels and explosives 4) Israel lost too much by withdrawing from Gaza in 2005 ~~ look at how that allowed 20 years of military build-up against Israel. 5) Israel almost gave away the Golan Heights, and look what that would have done! Do not withdraw from Gaza ~~ push the boundaries of Israel out to naturally defensible boundaries like rivers and mountains and deserts and oceans, in defensive wars, so there can finally be longterm peace. Anyone who attacks Israel should get pushed back, and should lose land ~~ permanently. Only to the extent that this is legal under international law ~~ would someone please educate us about the relevant international laws concerning this? Why is no one talking about this? Hopefully the man who helped legitimize the Golan Heights can help.
Brilliant lady.
Brilliantly articulated, with the only reservation, that when the focus is on Israel only, one may miss that similar dynamics are already in high gear in the US and Europe. People that were helped and welcomed are already harboring grievances against and rejection of their hosts. I am not as optimistic as Dr. Wilf, I think the problem is far greater, so great that most people just keep their eyes shut.
Its a quandry that Jewish lobby faces. They supported DEI because it favours everyone, but now that DEI populations see the Jewish unfairness they are inclined against j- power hence now the j-lobby is against DEI
How did it get this bad
Islam has so many Muslim countries
But Jews cant have only one
@@vorpalinferno9711 Because its not yours, you can have your own j-ish state in america, they have plenty of land and Js there
@@practice4523 America has a neutral government. Abraham came first.
@@vorpalinferno9711 No, America is not neutral because our Government was bought by aipac
Excellent conversation with an extremely knowledgeable, intelligent and educated guest who says it like it is.
Wow. This is clearly by far the best analysis of the conflict I have come across to date. Tough stuff indeed, but extraordinarily eye-opening and thought-provoking. How long are we as Western countries and democratic societies going to nourish blatantly flawed ideas about the causes of the conflict which cannot stand to scrutiny? How long are we going to indulge false excuses that enchain an entire people in a state of victimhood and non-responsibility? And finally, how long are we going to waste billions of dollars for keeping alive a deeply corrupt and rotten system whose only purpose is the perpetuation of war against Israel? The path that leads to true peace is hard and stony because it involves issues that are beyond the usual sphere of political activity, beyond the realm of negotiations and compromise. But if we put in it all the energy and resources we are currently wasting while cutting off all possible subterfuges, we can eventually succeed. By all means, we should try it.
Ish*** propaganda book was published in 1980 for liberals in West, she speaks out of that when speaking to western media and entirely different in Hebrew. Ish*** was created out of violance and suicide bombing, and it was the first action of UN that it now demonizes and ignore. But again none of this would matter to you because you think Palestinians are savages. As long as you would never think of me as an equal or ignore my freedom there will be no peace. it is as simple as that.
thanks for great episode
Thank you both!
She is absolutely what Israel needs to promote world understanding of what is really going on in the area.
Always impressed by Ms Wilf.
Weapons behind the teddybear. People will skipp over this. The IDF knows to look in the childrens rooms first
I've often been asked if Israel is bigger than Texas. When I explain its about the size of New Jersey it becomes apparent few know how small NEW JERSEY is.
As always, Einat never misses. So clear and concise it’s amazing.
Einat Wilf is absolutely brilliant
can you please recommend Einat to talk to other podcasters, that are your friends with? I think a lot more people need to hear this message
We dont want more propaganda please, if you want to support her just buy her book
@@practice4523 Frankly, I much prefer her propaganda to the propaganda coming out of Iran and Qatar. What Einat says makes sense for a secular-minded person who wants peace. Much more logical than the Islamist/ leftist garbage.
Yes! This is critically important
@@practice4523what's the difference between what you define as propaganda and truthful information? Her message is hard to hear BUT affects the entire world. It's a horrible truth having to accept the active hate towards global Jewry, all Christians and the entire West BUT buying her book for support is just the beginning.
@@luckieolp i have listened to her many times and the only truthful thing she said was that you guys are asking too much of the plstns, claiming that your God gave you their houses was just "too much to ask"
More people should hear this!!!
What a powerhouse Einat is! Thanks for facilitating such an incredible talk, Michael.
She is such a power house, she assaulted a 6 year old child in 2019.
In full disclosure, I am an unapologetic American political conservative and Gentile Zionist. I am a vocal advocate for Israel and the Jewish people inside and outside of Israel.
I'm embarrassed to admit that before watching this remarkably compelling interview with the stellar Einat Wilf, I had never heard of her! As an avid amateur scholar of the strategic history of the Middle East and a US Naval War College Graduate and retired combat veteran, it is inexplicable that I've just now discovered her. My bad.
As far as domestic politics are concerned, she and I could not be much farther apart, but more importantly we are in complete agreement on her views about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, its origins, its modern history, its current status, and potential resolution.
On the other hand, we are polar opposites on domestic politics in Israel, and probably by inference, America too. Again, unapologetically, I am a huge fan of Benjamin Netanyahu and his economic and political philosophy. In my view, and clearly not in Einat's, he is the most effective and positively consequential politician and Prime Minister in Israel's history, with the possible exceptions of David Ben Gurion and Golda Meir. I completely agree with Netanyahu's deeply controversial position that Israel's judicial system desperately needs to be reformed for the government to be democratically manageable. The American Founders wisely created our three independent branches of government with a clearly defined system of checks and balances to prevent any one of them from becoming too powerful. You cannot effectively govern when the unelected judicial branch of goverment transforms itself into a second and supreme legislative body as has happened in Israel, regardless of whether that second legislature acts in accordance with one's personal ideological agenda or not. I acknowledge that Einat would vehemently disagree with my position.
I am however puzzled by the fact that Einat was able to abandon her acknowledged leftwing position about land for peace and a two state solution, without a concomitant shift in her socialist domestic ideology. Regardless, there is no question that she and I could agree to disagree without being disagreeable on domestic politics while being in total solidarity about the correct course for Israel to follow on the vastly more important question of Israel's self defense and future national security policy. That is an existential necessity! We can argue about politics later after relative peace returns.
She is brilliant but only human, and as a European I can vouch that socialism is running deep, it's a secular religion, no amount of evidence can sway any meaningful minority of people in this area from attributing godly motivations and intentions(and thus obligations) to the state, or worse the EU institutions.
My peeve with Dr. Wilf, is that, when she is going to be heard, if at all, in any significant numbers, her limited message may detract from the fact that the intolerance to people in their land started in Israel, but today is not restricted to it. What starts with the Jews doesn't end with them.
See her speech to the UN about UNWRA
Israel’s current assault on Gaza is but an accelerated version of a process that has been ongoing for decades. Gaza’s plight is not the result of failed aspirations or a lack of effort on the part of its people. It is a direct consequence of Israel’s relentless project of subjugation. That is why conversations about the “day after” must recognize that there can be no future while Israeli occupation persists. If Israel had truly wanted Palestinians to turn Gaza into a thriving economic hub, it would at least have let them export oranges
@@maryquirke5479 I wish it were the case that all Israel had/has to do for Gaza to have a booming economy was to permit unlimited exports. Unfortunately, this is fantasy. Building a local economy within its borders was always a possibility. How do you imagine civilizations sustained themselves before trade? Even with the advent of interstate trade, states maintained control of their essential until very, very recently. Besides, all the funds Gazans would have raised through exports have been donated for the last 20 years. Again unfortunately, the money was spent on building tunnels rather than investing in infrastructure and the local economy. Why would it have been any different if those monies were raised via exports?
I don’t foresee Israel ever becoming a truly socialist country. Us Jews are way too competitive for that and have relied on meritocracy to survive for thousands of years. That being said, it is absolutely ingrained in us that we must care for the least among us. Abraham fed the stranger before he fed himself, after all. Things like universal health care are not debatable. Mandatory military service and our small numbers create a sense of community that is hard to achieve in large countries. Every Israeli is at most, one degree of separation from 10/07.
Einat is amazing...love from Israel 🇮🇱
Amazing! They will never solve it, util they understand the truth. Thank you, Einat.
The worst indictment of the Israeli State is that most of them have no idea of the peril they live under .
Probably even Einat does not understands that the worst outcome for the Palestinian people would be a state of their own . They'd have no clue what to do with it and so they'd turn to doing what they know best, what affords their single minded existence a defined purpose.
This is the only cogent explanation of the Palestinian Israeli situation that I have ever heard. Everything else I’ve heard sounds like obscurantist bullshit in comparison. Thank you Einat and thank you, Michael Shermer, for giving her the time to lay out her ideas and evidence so thoroughly. Brilliant!
Brilliant! Thank you! So many must hear it more than once to understand the current reality and the tasks at hand to have any impact!
Great conversation. Thank you.
Definitely the best explanation I’ve ever heard. Had to rewind and listen to some of the explanations 3-4 times to process it.
Somewhere in my ancestry, lies Jewishness. I felt the call to my Jewish soul decades ago. I went to temple for a year, studied basic Hebrew, celebrated the holidays. Pesach I went to an orthodox dinner. It was so fun!! I consider Jews my family. Growing up I remember the conflicts between Palestinians and Jews. I researched these things on my own. I found Robert Spencer, Alan Dershowitz, Hillel Neuer, and many others. I am firmly supportive of a Jewish state, sovereign and self determining. Bless your work Dr. Wilf
This interview should be a must see in the UN. Thank you both.❤️❤️❤️
Some are of the conviction that the UN is just misguided and a bit of truth will dissipate the fog from it's eyes. Others watched it long enough to understand that its motivational structures are such as to create and support such rot. No flowers are going to bloom in the UN it wasn't designed for that.
A very naive perspective of the "UN". Most of the countries in it are united by their "religion". Otherwise there's nothing united about this organisation.
Einat's book "The War of Return" is essential reading for understanding the pal-Israel issue, fantastic book.
"Book"
@@tatonemio6388 thx.
The only thing missing in this wonderful discussion is examination of Islamic texts that detail the harsh treatment of both Jews and Christians. As an Egyptian Jew, Bat Yeor has for years dealt with the issue of Dhimmitude in her writings.
When will we realize that we are all humans sharing the earth ? Nations should go forward and live in peace for the welfare of the children. UN should be abolished, it doesn't serve its purpose which was to unite the nations.
I've found you the Palestinian who unequivocally and publicly declares not only his agreement with Einat's principles of "constructive specificity" in resolving the key issues that have sustained the Arab claims of "return" but who is also unapologetically alligned with the morality of the Jewish state in its ancestral homeland. He is Mosab Yousef, the son of a cofounder of Hamas. His is the most powerful voice in the world today for Israel's sovereignty and flourishing right where it exists today. I realize that Mosab is just one advocate for reason and truth, but he speaks with the voice of the lion. I'm sure that Einat and Michael are well aware of Mosab and his very courageous and public campaign, but I just thought it important to make it known to Michael's audience.
You mean the guy who sold out his own people and supports the genosyd of his own family... i dont think he's "all there"
He is a lion, a real life super hero. Also morally and cognitively.
So many less evolved people believe morality is doing whatever the rest of "your people" are doing. No right or wrong, just sheep mentality, be it anti-Israelis or anti-Ukrainians.
They choose to focus on the work of destroying others rather than the hard work of building themselves up, as Einat notes.
Yes he is amazing and saw it from the inside and to the reply be
Ow if selling out a people who are violent and act immorally, hurting themselves first and then so many others, yes it’s best to sell out your own people. Keeping the company of fools tends to make oneself a fool. Mosab put his own life on the line to help save many lives and killed no one. He is a rare and admiral being.
@@practice4523 You mean the people that literally and metaphorically raped him, turned their back on him, betrayed him, and then tried to kill him? It's no wonder he turned on their scumbag jihadist society. He prevented many suicide bombings and saved a lot of lives. And stop using the word genocide like you know what it means.
@bearowen5480 You must be kidding! Mosab Youseb is a poor maniac with severe mental issues (paternal trauma syndrome) who became a Mossad informant in order to hurt his father's feelings. Do not be under any illusions, such a charcter is ready to say anything one wants him for a few shekels, dollars or rubles, for paying his drugs.
All he can is spreading the same Hasbara lies and repeating the same Israeli talking points on every TV show. If this clown is in your opinion “the most powerful voice for Israel’s sovereignty" things are looking pretty bad for Israel. And if you really think "Mosab Youseb is an advocate of reason and truth” you urgently need psychological help! 😢
This is one of your best, Michael!
What a good speaker, you should be doing more press.
Einat is an excellent speaker ...
She knows so much about the history of the Jewish State.
I do not miss all the interviews, lectures of this Lady ..so informative and very simple to underdstand
Thank you Ma'am ...
Israel is an apartheid state built on stolen Palestinian land!
From my perspective, the mainstream media holds a lot of responsibility for the rise in anti-Jewish sentiment. In my experience in Portugal, the news is biased, with ill-informed reporters and opinion makers. Some seem lazy and fail to educate themselves about history, and about the history of conflict in the region, simply copying and pasting news without proper scrutiny. Others appear to have a strong far-left-wing orientation. In Portugal, the majority of mainstream media is biased and leans far to the left, greatly influenced by the communist parties in the country. While I don't believe the citizens themselves are anti-Jewish-in fact, we are proud of our Jewish-Christian identity and values-the media is aligned with the far left and gives incredible room to communist party voices - which has created the idea that the society might be anti-Jewish, and even anti-portuguese traditional values and identity. There is a significant gap between the media and the citizens, with journalists living in a bubble of far-left ideology.
Einat I adore you. I learn so much. You are genuine and fierce. Thank you, I appreciate your commitment to maintain accuracy and integrity.
i wish Einat would read this (i know she’s unlikely to…). But every time i listen to her speak - she’s utterly brilliant. And the interviewer has also done a fine job here as well.
She's mossad, she's very good at propaganda
@@practice4523 You’re probably right. The Mossad does have a reputation for recruiting only the very best.
@@peretzo well okt7 proved otherwise
@@practice4523 You are correct. Israel displayed a miserable intelligence failure on Oct7. But you are also making Dr. Wilf’s point for her: Palestinians are a highly capable people. They are NOT a charity basket case. They just have a truly sick culture; completely mobilized to the destruction of a neighboring state. If they succeed (as they have, on 10/7) - it’s a token of their exceptional capabilities. They should also take some responsibility for their abject poverty, misery and suffering. Geniuses can also be sick and suicidal. That’s the story of the Palestinian people.
@@practice4523 It proved the brutality of one side, and the naive trust of the other side that nobody could possibly be so unimaginably brutal. That's all it proved to many of us. If your favourite word to rebut this is "islamophobia", so be it: it has made an "islamophobe" of me.
I would love to see Eina interviewed by Candace Owens and Kim Iverson, so she could set them straight on the reality of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
More likely she would be called out on her BS and her house of cards arguments would fall apart as they are built on lies
They wouldn't dare: they don't have the matching intellect to be able to debate. They have decided on their team and "wear the scarf so tightly about their necks that it cuts off the blood-flow to their brains" with thanks to Mr James O'Brien for this quotation, though used in a different context.
What is required is Ilan Pappe the most knowledgeable and honest Jewish historian to set Wolf straight.
Pappe wouldn't last 5 minutes with her. He's a congenital liar.
55:17 This war presents several binaries including: 1.) Either the majority of the Gazans are with Hamas, or Israel is liberating them. There is an abundance of evidence for the former. Not only have Gazans allowed their homes, schools, and hospitals to be militarized, there has been no civil disobedience or armed resistance against H. Even today, when there is nothing stopping the civilians from turning on Hamas, or at least participating in subterfuge, we don’t see it. 2.) Either this type of warfare - whereby you invade another country and then hide among your civilians to avoid retaliation - becomes normalized and ubiquitous, or we make it very clear this behavior is a dead end. Who wants to live in a world where this becomes how wars are fought? 3.) Palestinians are either going to keep starting and losing wars in the pursuit of Israel’s annihilation, or they’re going to accept and live. The choice is theirs. We can help them construct a national identity centered around something other than the delusion of “return,” but ultimately they are the agents of their future.
You have proved that you are a Jewish, you have a very big brain. I love you so much.
1:03:11 - All of those alternatives mentioned do not solve the problem of Palestinian terrorism. The reality needs to be repeated over and over and over as many times as the lies from Hamas and the extremist jihadi narrative. Bottom line is that Palestinian society, it's culture must be changed in the same way as Germany and Japan were - completely turned around - and in the midst of all those other Arab nations where terrorist supporters and sympathizers exist - how is it possible to do that.
The Palestinians were dedicated by the Arab states to harass and attack Israel and to ultimately destroy it - and they will not give up until or unless they are gone.
Einat
You should run for president
No, I disagree. What Israel needs is not socialism. What it needs, after ensuring its own national security first and foremost, is a thriving market economy and sweeping judicial reform. Einat would oppose both.
@ren5715 Satire? Israel no longer needs a new president, Netanyahu is the last president of this cruel experiment that will soon disappear into the dustbin of history.
Thank you for sharing Einat Wilf with the world Michael Shermer. A riveting, tough & practical exploration of the necessary ideological & cultural transformation needed to achieve true peace. Einat clearly & succinctly explains that what is needed is a complete transformation of Arab, Muslim & Palestinian understanding that Jewish self-determination is compatible with a proud Arab identity. Historically & to this day, Palestinians regard living next to a Jewish state as a mark of shame. Their ethos has been clearly repeated for decades - from water to water means a single Arab state that must replace Israel.
The required transformation for peace will entail viewing two states as a mark of honour. As she says, you can’t pay people to change their values, they have to want to go through this transformation, aided by moderate & modern Arab & Muslim countries & people. The data shows that all offers of a two state solution to date have been rejected by the Palestinians. Their public message is consistent, and the West has not yet taken their stated ideology seriously. We’ve been “Westplaining” by saying they don’t really mean what they say.
You all talk like we live in times without internet or that you can distort history books like we live in old Greece, where you can lie yourself as the winner through the history books.
Just read the article from Save the children one month before October 7th.
RAMALLAH, 18 Sept 2023 - At least 38 Palestinian children have been killed by Israeli forces in the occupied West Bank so far in 2023, making it the deadliest year since records began, said Save the Children.
Or times of Israel article
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"For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces
The premier’s policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from".
How can her knowledge and understanding of the Israel-Arabs conflict reach the students in Universities across the world?
They have. It’s because they know what a deceitful person she is that cause them to protest the way they do
Yes, Muslim one, try to actually think for yourself for once, not as a Muslim @@shahryarkabir
@@SureHoney I’m not Muslim. I find all religion abhorrent and counter factual to scientific inquiry.
@@shahryarkabir So what is deceitful about Einat Wilf exactly?
@@shahryarkabir Before commenting, you should at least have the decency to watch the video.
I stand with Israel ❤ I love Einat xx
The Host is actually smart and allows the guest to speak without frequent interruptions.
Reinterpreting Islam to support Israel (re: Abraham accords ) is reminiscent of the 1962 papal reinterpretation of Christianity to allow conceptualizing a common Judeo Christian tradition. That could take a while ….
How is Netanyahu bungling the war?! It is the most innovative in the process of protecting civilians, it has achieved and continues to achieve its goals. It found out that Egypt was allowing smuggling of arms etc through its border…. What the hell!!!?
The father of modern Palestinian nationalism AL-AMAN-HUSSANI met with Hitler and Himmler in 1941&1943 topic of discussion was the Final solution. There are historical news reels of these meetings for anyone to see and hear. Hitler permitted this guy to organize Nazi Islamic brigades in Ukraine and Yugoslavia. They fought for Hitler against the allies. They served as guards in the concentration death camps, after his death, his evil apprentice Yasser Arafat becomes leader of the PLO and calls for holy war in the name of the Cresent moon god allah, for the extermination of Israel and the Jewish people. Arafat died a billionaire.
The Jewish people are entitled to self-determination, just like the Armenians, Scots and the Irish.
They already in all over the world without ethno-state.
and like the Palestinians... we just wish they were a functional ethnicity.
no palestinians exist to eradicate jews that's the real truth therefore absolutely not
Just like every other nation on earth. I don't understand why this is such a revolutionary idea.
@@LosNavenautasThe Arabs living in Palestine, better known as Israel, are not from one nation. All this rot about ethnicity is nothing but a fantasy. Every nation is made up of a mixture of "ethnicities", by which, I suppose, people mean genes. If this were not the case, humanity would have perished long ago. This is the reason close relatives are not encouraged to have relations and reproduce, simply because without a good mix you end up with genetic disorders, both physical and mental. So I really think we need to cut the crap about ethnicity. Nations are held together by shared cultures, not genes.
Great speaker! But there is one misconception: we the catholic do not hold jews as the killer of Jesus, He came to give His life for ALL of us. We could never hate jews because:
Mary and Jesus were jews
We have the first and foremost commandment: "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God (...)and Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself”
For us catholics, jews are our eldest brothers in the faith.
59:54 Norway recognizing Palestine as a State is "Schrödinger's State" ?? Schrödinger's Cat is a famous thought experiment that demonstrates the idea in quantum physics that tiny particles can be in two states at once until they're observed. It asks you to imagine a cat in a box with a mechanism that might kill it. Until you look inside, the cat is both alive and dead at the same time.
Now the Norwegians have to convince the Palestinian to "want a state" and not to "no want a state for Jews".
@@tatonemio6388 They specified they didn´t want a two-state solution, during current circumstances. It was a goal to work towards. Most of the, if not all of the european states that recognized Palestine as a state had similair reservations.
I find it hard to get a grip on antisemitism. The war in 2014 however, made me understand something is wrong with my at the time political side. It made me start a drift towards conservatism. I also in spite travel to Israel during that conflict.
This is time its worse. I feel it in my stomach. The lefties claim they are only reacting to the humaniterian situation.
Anticolonialism,capitalism,racism and xenophilia. And I am learning anti semittisme is what really animates the lefties. The muslims have a deep religious, nationalistic and ethnic rage as well.
In my town there is a hole where a jewish community should have been. Some of my family where guillty of their deaths.
I remember and I will do what I can for my fellow people og Israel.
Love from Norway( a political narsisistic people).
How did it get this bad
Islam has so many Muslim countries
But Jews cant have only one
Didn't you hear? We stole the land from...someone.
There's so much land in Europe and North America.
@@MaxPayne-fi1mz And?
@@gheller2261 You will have to figure that out yourself.
@@MaxPayne-fi1mz You're a nasty piece of work, aren't you.
Interesting perspective.
Praying for the beloved People of ISRAEL continually ❤🎉
This lady is really fantastic.
Bravo Mr. Shermer. This is the most important interview of our time.
Thank you, great interview, always a pleasure to listen to Dr. Wilf❤
From 1949 until 1967 Jordan occupied the West Bank and East Jerusalem while Egypt occupied Gaza. The Egyptian government was a dictatorship. Jordan was a monarchy. Neither Egypt nor Jordan had any intention of leaving the occupied territories. Why didn’t Palestinian “resistance fighters'' attack Jordan and Egypt? Why didn’t anyone recognize a Palestinian State? What about the Palestinian right of national self determination? What about full democratic human rights for Palestinians?
Only when Jews occupied East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza in 1967, which they did and will continue to do so because it is necessary for Israel’s survival, did it become an international crisis and Jews became the targets of constant terrorist attacks and international condemnation.
I ask this all the time. The free Palestine people repeatedly say "for 75 years..." They have no clue that Israel did not control Gaza and "the West Bank" for almost 20 years.
@@gheller2261I ask this all the time. It is time to not demand what Palestinians should think. The Palestinian goal to undo Jewish sovereignty is not by any means immoral just like the Algerians were not wrong to give up their territories which Israeli leaders supported. Yes they supported a 2 state solution in Algeria.
@@JacobStein1960 Israel is fundamentally genocidal. They have been massacring Palestinians and stealing their land for 76 years.
IDF soldiers wear patches showing “greater Israel” which is a confession of future massacres, invasions, genocides and land thefts Israel has planned for the years ahead. Please don’t be stupid enough to accept Israel’s claims those other countries, whose lands Israel plans to steal, start those future fights.
Israel controls other people’s terrorist groups and uses them to create false provocations which Israel them uses as grounds “to defend themselves” by which they actually mean bombing civilians.
@@gheller2261 They still controlled it by controlling everything coming in or out, controlling food, fuel, electricity and by controlling records and taxation. But Israel tells lies and Americans just lap ‘em up and ask for more.
This is so accurate and coherent
Here’s example of another cause and affect reversal.
The blockade on Gaza was imposed after Hamas was voted into power but we keep hearing the Gazans are resisting because it’s an “open air prison”.
SMH
Not quite. Israel (and others) imposed *sanctions* after Hamas was elected. The blockade was imposed after they slaughtered Fatah. Never mind the thousands of rockets fired into Israel in the two years before the blockade…
@@joge2468 this was my point
@@yanivreif7379 I was just correcting the timeline a bit and pointing out that the sanctions were only ratcheted up when Hamas engaged in a coup.
The blockade occured because of terror attacks. Egypt also has a blockade
עינת תודה על הכל
טוב לשמוע תובנות ממי שהתפכחה וראתה את הסכסוך משני צידי המתרס.
הצעד הבא יהיה חזרה לפוליטיקה. צריכים אנשים איכותיים ומשכילים בקבלת ההחלטות
The question that I never get an answer to:
Inshalla; as Allah wills
Isn’t it clear that Allah wills that Israel exist?
They have won every war that you have brought to them. How could that be against Allahs will?
It is clearly Allahs will that Arab Muslim Israelis have the highest standard of living in the region.
So, is it Inshalla only when Allah gives you what you want?
Is Allah your servant.. or are you Allahs servant?
I like her voice. She is so jewish
Excellent intellect multiplied by grace and charisma she should make great president for Israel ore USA
Einat is really good. Very informative
Well qualified 💕🇮🇱👍☮️
Jewish Bible is at the base of our western culture not koran.
Who is care bibal
She’s great
she is wow
It feels like the Roman Empire never ended
Trust me Rome ended, if it was around there would be no Izrl. They were the ones who go rid of it remember
@@practice4523 Funny you say that because I have an Italian catholic friend and his dad believes that the catholic church is the real successors of the roman empire and he is not the only one.
@@16uy9aming4 The Roman Catholic Church is indeed a remnant of the Roman Empire, just like Roman Dutch Law, Latin nomenclature etc, but my point is that the actual power of Rome is gone, Italy is obviously not a world power. And again If Rome was still around then that Middle Eastern state wouldn't
Einat is so truthful. Thank you
Wow! Einat is an Israeli ROCKSTAR! Her historical explanation of the origins of the current anti-Israel movement, the Palestinian problem, and of Antisemitism is the most persuasive one that I've heard to date. In the widespread internet discussions and presentations searching for explanations of the Israeli security failure of October 7th, hers is the most cogent and believable, actually profound, and her experience in military intelligence gives it the imprimatur of authority.
I have a relatively minor bone to pick with her. In her explanation of one source of minority American anti-Israel feeling she cites the Corey Bush example of blaming US foreign aid to Israel for the failure of Congress to pass "universal healthcare" legislation. Parenthetically she slipped in her personal view that US failure to have "universal healthcare" was an "abomination". That reveals her personal domestic political orientation as a socialist. Israel has a domestic history of being strongly socialist. Jewish refugees from the USSR, among others, brought with them a bias toward socialist policies in a number of governance realms, not the least of which was big government, including "universal healthcare". It can be argued that the institution of socialism in the history of Israel demonstrably held the country back economically and socially until Benjamin Netanyahu, as Finance Minister in a Likud-led government, introduced sweeping free market economic reforms that turned Israel into a business powerhouse on the world stage, and one of the most affluent per capita societies on earth. Later Einat undercuts her socialist views by linking "Utopianism" to Antisemitism within the current context of global opposition to Israel. Universal healthcare is a significant element of the Utopian ideal. My view is that socialism is in fact "an abomination", and that there are many examples in the world today of countries which have adopted a goverment-run universal healthcare model which has led to an actual failure to deliver quality healthcare to their citizens. I give you the examples of Britain, Canada, Cuba, and a host of others where rationing is rampant, delays in treatment endemic, and the care ultimately delivered being subpar in comparison to more free market medical systems like that in the United States. As I said, in the big scheme of things related to geopolitical events in the Middle East at the moment, this is a small bone to pick within the context of Einat's otherwise brilliant and compelling views. I have immense respect and admiration for this remarkable woman, and I hope that this outstanding interview by Michael Shermer receives the widest possible dissemination.
If socialism means caring for all members of a society, I'm all for it. Unfortunately like every good idea humanity has ever had, it's often abused and degraded.
@@maltija1 Socialism is an emotionally derived concept that has never worked anywhere it's been tried. It always leads to economic collapse, suppression of individual freedom, and if not reversed, ultimately mass incarceration and death. Free market capitalism is the only societal system that has created pluralistic economic flourishing and individual freedom in the history of humankind.
I find it interesting that the Arabs, who descended from Abraham and Hagar, have such an antipathy for their half-brother, Isaac, son of Abraham and Sarah.
When do we get to the "how to achieve peace" part of the interview? I'm 50 minutes in...
Whatever she says ..I’m only a few minutes in but respect her enormously from what I heard her say in other interviews and to the UN ….but you can only achieve peace when people know and want to get rid of the hate in their minds…this requires education and a good ethical leader, an understanding of cause and effect and how much more beautiful life can be if you take responsibility for the hatred in your mind, without blame and then follow the hard but amazingly liberating path to eternal peace within.
I trust you finished listening to the discussion and found that it's not as simple as a.cookie recipe
@@enshrinehd Not yet. I plan to. My comment was about how Michael titles these videos. The first hour doesn't cover the subject indicated by the title.
@@stephenmcgrail7661 I know what you mean. I keep forgetting about the hook. Great talk though
@@stephenmcgrail7661 spoiler alert, Einat doesn’t believe in peace and contrary to what she says here, she never has. If you go back through her talks and speeches going back decades, she is not a good faith peace seeker. She is a decoy that pretends to reflect a more pacific side of Israeli politics while always supporting laws and policies that seek to undermine Palestinian existence.
The word Palestine comes from the word Philistine. The Philistines originally migrated from the Greek isles into Canaan. They inhabited Gaza. They were not Semitic or Arab people. They were arch enemies of the twelve tribes of Israel. They disappeared as a culture and people during the reign of King Uzziah of Israel.
Not all people believe your version of history.
@@YogaladyToronto The people who claim to be Philistines (Palestinian) today are actually Jordanian Arabs, mostly. Some are Egyptian and Syrian. The Bible gives detailed geographical dimensions of the land promised to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The only time in history God promised real-estate to a people. The Arab lineage has always had a ancient jealousy for Israel because of the Abrahamic covenant. The blessing went from Abraham to Isaac, not Ishmael. That ancient jealousy, turned into a ancient hatred when Islam was invented. Islam is a bastardized version of Judaism mixed with Babylonian astrology and Zoroastrianism. It's brought spiritual darkness to the middle east. Satan's greatest masterpieces are Catholicism and Islam. Both of these religious performance systems have always hated the Jewish people. The reason the world hates Israel is simple. The Oracles of God were given to them exclusively. The redeemer of the world would come through Israel. The Lion from the tribe of Judah, Messiah, "I AM" King of the Jews. He will sit on Mount Zion one day.
Good talk
She is the best ..the best
Pray!!! Pray for Peace
Extremely informative and educational. Literacy is still the defining characteristic of this conflict.
I wondering how we can reduce the number of Americans who suffer from the delusion that they have some stake in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and help them return to doing what they know how to do best. Shutting up and watching bad shows on Netflix while they grow wider. Saving such conversations for intelligent, well-informed folks like Michael Shermer and company😄
Thanks for the great interview!!!
There are fallacies and misunderstandings! Most of the population of North Africa are not Arabs, nor is a large portion of the population of the Mesopotamia region. They are described as Arabs because of the Arabic language that spread due to the Islamic religion, and basically the Arabic language is a mixture of several languages. In fact, the history of the Jews in the region dates back to before the spread of the Arabic language! Also, Judaism is a religion, not a race (can you understand?!), and those who are described as Arabs because of the Arabic language are the ones who protected the Jews over thousands of years. The Arabs of the Arabian Peninsula and some residents of the Mesopotamian region are brothers of the Jews (Judaism is a religion, not a race), and the Semites include Jews and Arabs (the Semites are a race and have nothing to do with religion!). What is promoted in the media is caused by ignorance and backwardness! The Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip may be more Semitic than those who claim to be Semitic because of their embrace of the Jewish religion!
Loool
Now go study where and why the term “Anti-Semite” was coined and for what purposes
Anti-semite ! can’t you comprehend?! Judaism is a religion not a race, Converting to Judaism will not make you a Semitic race! Can’t you comprehend?! Jews and Arabs have the same origin but separated by religions.
So-called Anti-semite is a term invented by some Zionists to terrorise other (the people of gods are superior to humans).
Anti-semite ! can’t you comprehend?! Judaism is a religion not a race, Converting to Judaism will not make you a Semitic race! Can’t you comprehend?! Jews and Arabs have the same origin but separated by religions.
So-called Anti-semite is a term invented by some Zionists to terrorise other (the people of gods are superior to humans).
@@yanivreif7379 Anti-semite ! can’t you comprehend?! Judaism is a religion not a race, Converting to Judaism will not make you a Semitic race! Can’t you comprehend?! Jews and Arabs have the same origin but separated by religions.
So-called Anti-semite is a term invented by some Zionists to terrorise other (the people of gods are superior to humans).
Anti-semite ! can’t you comprehend?! Judaism is a religion not a race, Converting to Judaism will not make you a Semitic race! Can’t you comprehend?! Jews and Arabs have the same origin but separated by religions.
So-called Anti-semite is a term invented by some Zionists to terrorise other (the people of gods are superior to humans).
The Abu Awad family are the Palestinian Mandelas. And as
Much as I agree with much of what she says it’s not quite so black and white. Much Israel could have done to support healing too. Not making moral equivalence. Just saying both could do more and I pray they will. 🙏🏼💚
The name of this channel is called "skeptic." I thought you would talk about aliens, psychic phenomenon, science and science denial and most importantly: "Evidence." So where is the scientific Skepticism?
It’s quite incredible that it took this “really smart woman“ with tons of college degrees, intifadas in the early 2000s, and the October 7 holocaust, to realize the simplicity that Mayer Kahana understood in the 1970s and 80s and was yelling from the rooftops but no one would listen.
And of course, she won’t even dare quote his name even though she’s quoting him the whole time.
Because Kahana went further and called for violence against and wiping out all Arabs. He was a nutcase.