7 Sith That REFUSED To Use Red Lightsabers and Why
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There’s also Darth Kreia she used three purple light sabers
3? Did she had a double sided one and a Single blade?
I’m 30 and I still think that Star Wars is dope. KOTOR was an amazing game. Wish they had completed the series better.
im 33 but i dont like the sequel trilogy at all im not a fan of those films due to them being rushed and kathleen kennedy is running star wars like its marvel when star wars is not marvel its differnt plus she shot down alot of good film ideas that would have been good but she pushed all those things down which was a bad move she should never be allowed to head of lucasfim after her bob iger and others mistreated george lucas she stated in a interview that when making the sequel trilogy we have no books no comics no scripts then you look back at what she did to the old eu she deemed and made no longer canon a big pile of bs plus george lucas himself said he hated the force awakens if you watch the force awakens closely its a soft reboot of a new hope without obi wan kenobi oh i forgot te destroyer of the star trek frenchise just now destroyed star wars yet he turned star trek into star wars and his force awaken film was pure trashfire dont get me started on the last jedi i can bash on that film for hours years and months i can even bash on the rise of skywalker for years months and years you easily tell im like linkara but in a diffiernt way
Being 30 got nothing to do with it lol.
@@rondareongaming9161 im 33 years old and still listen to slipknot i own all their studio albums and love them all im just not a fan of the star wars sequel trilogy i hate those films i hate everyting about those films ill never like them those films to me are not canon they are pure fan fiction
Lol. I’m 53 and still enjoy it. I especially love the Clone War cartoons- both the original 2d drawn ones and then the series . I haven’t seen the last Jedi and won’t. Kathleen Kennedy ruined that mythos with her garbage. IMO that is. Other great fantasy movies for you youngsters to watch- Dragonslayer, Krull, Beastmaster, Excalibur , The Neverending Story . Enjoy my friends
@@rondareongaming9161 to me jacksons hobbit movies make way more sense than those star wars sequel trilogy even jacksons king kong and lod of the ring films make way more sense than the entire sequel trilogy
I actually wouldn't mind more colours for Sith blades to denote different values (like consular or guardian), but I can see why the red vs blue/green was used (mainly stage effects, would a sentinel's yellow blade look good on screen? Probably not).
Lucas had red and blue.
In Jedi the blue saber wasn't showing up with the sky as a background on jabba's yacht so they went with green.
dark blue
Ask Rey 🤮
Red works really well as a dark side colour (red blade and black clothes is probably the most striking visual for a villain), but as this video points out, several dark siders have used other colours, especially if they used to be Jedi, so it's fine not to use red. My bigger issue is with the revised canon that says the red comes from "bleeding" crystals.
I think I preferred it when the explanation was that a Sith's lightsaber crystal was synthetic (lightsaber crystals only occurred naturally on the planet of Ilum, which was closely guarded by the Jedi Order, making it impossible for a Sith to gain access), and the red colour was a result of the dark side energy they put into creating it. Luke's Return of the Jedi crystal was also synthetic, but wasn't red as he wouldn't have used the dark side to make it.
I like the system you have in KOTOR where the colour is determined by the crystal, and to change the colour of the blade, you need to change the crystal.
Fully agree. I also think that this "bleeding"/ "cleansing" ... ultimately "soul-bonding" stuff is weird and not well thought through. I prefer a more engineering/ technical/ scientific explanation, too. ... I was just thinking: If the super-weapon on a Death Star works using these crystals, shouldn't it become immediately deep crimson after vaporizing Alderaan?
@@eugenebelford9087 I don't mind an element of soul-bonding. Having a Jedi youngling explore a crystal cave in search of one they are particularly attuned to is very on-brand even in Legends (and was quite a good episode of The Clone Wars), but I think the colour should be a natural property of the crystal.
The canon lore says you bleed a crystal by meditating on it and pouring your hatred and anger into it, which is why you don't get colour change in the Death Star superlaser (which surely would have happened after Jeddah in Rogue One if it was going to? Also, why is it green as opposed to any other colour?), or Anakin's lightsaber after Operation Knightfall.
That makes the most sense, changing the crystal changes the color. I’ve always thought making a crystal bleed was a moronic idea.
Me too synthetic was better.
Yes...completely agree. Legends did it better.
I would like to see more shades, like you mentiond bane having a darker shade of red.
Also wouldnt it be more of an insult if the sith used a green, blue etc. blade?
I don't think so. Bleeding a kyber crystal shows that Sith's hatred for other beings, because every time they activate their lightsaber the crystal is in great pain, and a Jedi can feel that suffering.
@@Just_Pele a Sith using a white blade would be insulting.
@@Just_Pele not necessarili\ly ancient they have been in doctorinated into it
It would, the Jedi would be disgusted by the use of a lightsaber that represented them, especially if they were from former Jedi themselves!
@@TheShadow14150 like grevious did
I’ve always liked the color orange. If I was a force user I would be a Sith with a crimson lightsaber and an orange lightsaber. I really dislike the notion that orange lightsabers are weak. Orange is an amazing color and would look awesome being turned on in the dark.
I agree that orange lightsabers look awesome. In Fallen Order, I always used the orange color for mine. Until the time I had to make a new Saber and choose the color by the crystal, then I accidentally made it pink because by the light I thought it was red, whoops. I shouldn't have experimented, should've just made it orange immediately
The inly reason for that is “fools kyber” which is indeed quite feeble and happens to be orange. Orange is a very powerful color! The heart of the guardian was orange (the crystal prophesied to appear to the chosen in the old republic). And the most selfless of Jedi use orange lightsabers (they’re more of pacifists). And dark Jedi used orange lightsabers (and were very powerful as well)! You could totally be a Sith and wield an orange lightsaber!
When I was a kid, I noted that the Jedi used the basic three cool colors for lightsabers which were blue, green, and purple. I also noted that the Sith typically used red, so I came to the conclusion that there would be Sith out there that used the other two warm colors of yellow and orange. However, I found out that red was the only color they used... and sometimes purple. I almost would rather have the Jedi use the three cool colors and the Sith use the three warm colors. But that's just my opinion.
Jedi have yellow and white sabers
@@jamiesonboulanger1478 i think sith should adopt some orange saber for like junior sith i kinda sad for that
That makes sense especially when taking into account kyber crystals that actually generated heat and cold
When I was a kid this was my headcanon mate
@@jamiesonboulanger1478 white is not a crystal that appears naturally.
White crystals are red crystals repurified from the dark. No jedi uses them
I think another reason why Exar Kun (if he were to be canonised again) wouldn't have bled his Lightsaber crystal red would be the fact that he viewed himself as immune to the Dark Side entirely. He thought his power so great that he found himself above the temptations of it and didn't see his turn to it as falling but rather as an ascension. A vital part of his character is his vanity and superiority complex, exasperated and caused by his uncanny power in the Force and his great skill with the Lightsaber.
I don't want to see exar kun be castrated emasculated and humiliated by Disney social justice activits writers, he is too powerful masculine badass violent and high testosterone for Disney star wars
Wow that’s a very insightful theory!
I know that it's possibly borderline, but playing KOTOR2, I never saw Freedon Nadd's saber as crimson, but the optional bronze or orange.
i'm just about to play this once again, i'll surely take a look into it. and also traya, eh. another sith with purple saber
Bronze Saber? That sounds cool
I'm open to both sides using different colors but it does make sense as far as jedi and sith go for ceremonial and war time purposes to use there colors with adi gallia a good example which is using red until clone wars then switching to blue and letting dark jedi use whatever color they want cause they are generally not affiliated with any organization
Surely Maul with the Darksaber counts.
If Anakins brief use of his blue blade upon being anointed as Vader counts, then yeah. Plus you see others in the list, such as Krayt, you also used the traditional red blade with another blade of a different color
Imagine Darth Bane being like “ok I got my new armor, time to get a purple lightsaber!” 🤣! that’s not even his lightsaber in the fanart!
1:36 this fight in the 2nd Darth Bane Book was so freakin Epic. Literally got chills seeing this visualised.
During the rise of Darth Bane, it was stated in the first novel, that the Sith used manufactured Kyber crystals that were better than traditional kyber crystals used by the Jedi.
Yeah, I've always thought that the synthetic crystal explanation was better than the bleeding crystal jackassery.
@@dullahan7677 making them was easier then bleeding them. To bleed the crystal, a sith Lord had to spend hours pouring their hate and dark side powers into a Kyber crystal. If they failed, the crystal would crack or shatter. Kylo's crystal cracked when he tried to bleed his original Kyber crystal. Hence the side ports on his light saber.
@@marcthompson2027 Actually, the spikes on the side are part of the design itself. But the blade's unstable appearance is a result of the shattered crystal.
@@marcthompson2027well, Dagan Gera needed only 10 seconds to bleed his crystal.
Darth bane’s lightsaber is purple because in the old comics of the original story of the Jedi and Sith war he used a purple blade. Even the action figure they made 15 years ago that came with other Sith was also purple. That’s why there’s fanart and other pictures of him with a purple blade. So yes in the old non-canon legends book he uses only red but back all those years ago when the story originally came out in the comic it was purple 👍🏻
I don't usually do star wars videos on my channel but when I do I love exploring the lore! We should collaborate sometime!
I don't mind purple, orange, and any shade of red lightsabers for the Sith. Former Jedi who became Sith can still use their old crystal in special circumstances, but I would rather have this scenario be utilized very rarely.
Most Sith hate purple lightsabers, but all known owners of one were legends: Darth Revan, Darth Traya, Darth Grathan (rivaled only by Darth Vitiate, and the emperors wrath) (Empress) Darth Acina, etc. even if Darth Bane actually had a purple lightsaber you bet the Sith’ari himself would’ve been on that list! I personally like red better than purple but I still think purple is really cool!
Interesting video
I appreciate the accuracy of Darth Bane’s lightsaber as it was red! Don’t know people thought it was purple. His lightsaber was red on the cover of the rule of two
It's ridiculous how much art exists of him wielding a purple blade. Whered that even come from? I think all that needs to be erased, and new art can be made by people who actually read the books
I actually want to see a Jedi or sith use a force imbued weapon like a massive two handed blade or axe and have a coloured light around it to show it’s reinforced with the force.
In legends they have multiple colors for lightsaber blades, including white, green, orange, red, blue, yellow, and purple. I love the use of all the different colors.
I still can't get over the whole "bleeding your crystal" thing. Like if Disney wants to make new cannon,make NEW cannon. Don't retroactively change something established just to sound edgy with no weight behind it
I do like the classic green and blue for good. Red for bad. But I really like the different colors as well. To me, it says that there is something different or unique about the wielder. I also believe the force itself isn’t necessarily good or bad, but more complex than anyones understanding. At least what we’ve seen so far. I really dig the concept of grey Jedi/Sith. It represents what could and should be, like everything, balance. On top of that, to be able to walk both sides of the force, and not go completely mad, shows how much of a level of mastery one has obtained.
Cool vid
I met Charles Soule at a comic book signing for the new darth vader series in 2019 or so- I asked him about the idea of bleeding the kyber crystals from his comic whether he had influences or if he made that up..and he claimed that he made it up. Very interersting.
I love the idea of the dark side being more nuanced, and seeing more colors/concepts being added to them. at the same time, it doesn't seem like the goal
What about more white & black ;)
Great video!!!
Barel Ovair used a purple double bladed lightsaber.
I'm surprised we've not seen a Sith who isn't quite so sinister that he or she would bleed their kyber crystal. A more pragmatic Sith who sees the dark side more as a means to an end, a path to power without needless cruelty (though cruelty can and is used when necessary). Someone walks the path of the dark side as the ultimate choice for moral freedom, not simply as a way to sew greater discord and destruction.
Literally dooku, although he was fairly corrupted by the end of the clone wars. Never had sith eyes though.
Depends on Legends or Canon continuity. In Legends, Dooku was very much in this realm. As was Darth Vectivus, Darth Tenebrous, and Darth Plagueis. In Canon, that's rare. Mostly because we know little about Disney's universe any further back than one-hundred years.
My favorite one is Darth Raven. Because he’s an interesting character to me
I always had this headcanon that using a particular crystal color was a statement about a practitioner's commitment to the dogma attributed to that color, and someone using a color besides their profession would mean they adhered to a certain discipline above the dogma inherent to their station/job within their order, IE: if someone was a consular but used a different color, or multiple colors, it would be taken to mean the practitioner adheres to the practices or dogma those colors represent, meaning someone who was a sith but also wielded both red and green sabers would have the same respect a consular has for the force, while still displaying sith values, as opposed to just simply having the dogmatic approach the sith usually have to the force.
*Edit:* In the case of the consular using a different color other than green that might have been (according to my headcanon) a consular that places an emphasis on learning skills from that other dogma, while still adhering to the consular philosophies (ie, a jedi master with poor control over force powers but with great fencing or inquisitor skills, etc, yet still working within the consular role, using a green crystal representing their spiritual path and another for their chosen path of discipline).
Then again every sith or jedi could have _their own reasons_ for doing that, and maybe its a statement in another sense, against their dogma or something like that.
It would actually be an interesting idea to see more Sith utilizing Jedi specific colored lightsabers. With me for instance, when I chose to join the Sith Order after defecting from the Jedi Order, I intentionally kept my old Green & Blue lightsabers, as a constant reminder of the life I left behind. And also as a reminder of why I left the Jedi Order in the first place. I'd also keep my old Jedi lightsabers in case I was assigned a covert mission by the Sith Council to infiltrate certain Jedi Temples. Lastly, I would only use my Jedi lightsabers unless my Sith lightsabers were damaged, or for special occasions when I'm going head to head with Jedi Padawans, Knights, or Masters. As an insult to my former Jedi brothers and sisters.
I’m fine with the Sith using different colors to not only insult the Jedi, but signify their own connections to the various subtleties of the force.
General grievous: am I a joke to you?
He's not a sith did you read the title of the video?
Instead of just the typical old colors red green and blue it would be interesting to see more multiple dark versions of lightsabers that had been corrupted by the dark side. All colors can have an evil menacing aura about them. Like the dark saber have core black and outer color like purple blue red green and yellow for example .
Anyone remember when Darth Maul fought Darth Sidious whilst dual wielding the darksaber and his own lightsaber?
I’m not judging for it not being in the video.
I hope we see a Sith using other Lightsaber Colors in Movie or TV Series
I think the real reason they used green and red sabers is they were big fans of Christmas 🎄 🤔
Personally, I find the entire discussion on saber colors and what they "mean" to be a tiresome over-focus on trivialities. I think it's telling that lightsaber colors are never brought up _once_ in the entire movie canon. You could replace all lightsaber blades with white ones and it would not change anything.
From what I understand, the original plan was for Jedi to use blue sabers while Sith used red. And as much as I like the green ones, I can't help but think that would have been a lot neater. It would have fitted the binary good vs evil theme and given both sides a sense of uniformity and symmetry that would have made them contrast clearly from each other.
The introduction of Luke's green saber was a makeshift solution to a minor issue that George Lucas was probably a bit too worried about, but it served to break the symmetry and opened up the possibility of more colors. And I _get_ why people went nuts over it, favorite colors and so on, but it made the whole thing messy. Next we got Mace Windu's purple lightsaber, and I'm pretty sure the only reason for that is because Sam Jackson personally requested it and Lucas agreed. See: Lucas himself does not appear to think lightsaber colors are important or meaningful. He apparently decided this sort of thing mostly on whims.
Now we're at a point where Sith and other darksiders have red sabers while Jedi can have blue, green, purple, yellow and white sabers. Which is _kinda weird_ when you think about it. Remember how back in 80s and 90s cartoons the good guys and bad guys would shoot differently colored lasers at each other? For example, in Transformers the Autobots had yellow lasers and the Decepticons has purple ones. Those are completely arbitrary color choices with no particular lore explanation: The only reason for it was to make it clear who was shooting at who. Now imagine if the Decepticons shot purple lasers while Autobots could use lasers of any color _except_ purple. Even kids would find that confusingly arbitrary and go: "What's _that_ supposed to mean?"
But anyway, now that we have the whole damn rainbow covered, I say at least try to balance it out. Like, _at least_ let the Sith have purple. That's a perfectly good color for bad guys. And green is, like, the most morally ambivalent color of all, with tons of villains rocking it. (See: The Borg, Death Eaters, the Fel, the Nightsisters of Dathomir.)
What I'm basically saying is: If we're going for variation, then let's go all out and stop pretending that it matters. We don't need to make excuses for why a Sith would have a green saber. Maybe it just looks cool, okay?
Can you do a video on what if Yoda & Sidious' duel was during Palpatine's speech. Like what if the entire senate saw that Palpatine was a dark lord of the Sith. Like would it go against him or would it help him gain trust with the senate.
Do you have a video about other colors?
I will always be sad I didn't get Anakin with a red blade at the end of revenge of the sith
I wanna see the sith using yellow and red blades
You missed out Freedon Nadds bronze shoto and also Karness Muur's orange saber
I think it depends on the sith, most of the sith on this list are more impactful/known in the Star Wars universe, so it almost feels like only they wielded them because they were stronger than other sith or more important, I think in cases like that, it’s perfectly fine, plus in the case of anakin, despite turning to the dark side the blue blade always fit his character really well so it didn’t feel out of place despite him becoming a sith
I always saw the Sith using red lightsabers as symptom of their overzealous identity shift from the jedi order. I liked how the lightsaber just used to be an important weapon for the jedi. The colors were more like a degree, that once awarded, the jedi could change at their leisure. I hate how lightsabers, are more strictly regimented, and have become almost more important than the jedi themselves.
Whose more powerful exar kun or darth vitiate
Anyone correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Freedon Nad use a Bronze saber? I like that color and feel like it could be a suitable dark side color.
I would love to see the different legends colors to become canon, and I feel that siths should be red as traditional however it let themselves choose to follow tradition or not
Comes to warb null it's a no brainer why he had a red and Green blade look at the ware the hidden emitter is it's below the hoop that attached to his belt thus hidden so the reason is stealth and miss information when he's first encountered in the comics they thought he was a dark Jedi first and not a sith apprentice
In the video it stated sidious used a blue light saber only in legends continuety. I'm no star wars guru but when he attacked windu and his crew when they came to arrest him in revenge of the sith. Didn't his lightsaber admit yellow?
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Darth Tennibris loved a duel too
I'd like to see the Fel white sabers in film
I'd say the Sith should only use red, purple and possibly orange.
I kinda like the jedi using colors other than red. And the sith sticking with the crimson blood blades. Either way it's cool though. I just want more interesting sith to come into play like in legends
I love your channel but too often your audio is too low like this one.
Audio is fine for me
Pre-Disney they were red because the used synthetic crystals that were red
Some more colored diversity amongst the 2 main factions would be nice, Especially dual phase lightsabers Which could change the color
For me, the color doesn't matter as much. Although, it is a good indicator of lightside or darkside. What matters to me is how they're being used & why.
Usually, I'm pretty open minded to a lot of things, but on the other hand, some things are better left as is. Of course I'm talking about Jedi using blue and green lightsabers and the Sith crimson lightsabers.
Doesn’t matter what color they use a weapon is still a weapon
So, did they do away with synthetic crystals altogether?
I prefer the green and blue options, with the yellow of the sentinels. Mace Mindu and others with rare lightsaber colors should be rare, in my opinion.
As the one who so constantly likes to wax about Legends, I have to say ivstill miss the synthetic crystals backstory, when Sith didn't "bleed" crystals, but simply had to make their own, and it was a side effect of that process, and that Luke perfected it to make his green one, in RotJ. No reason otherwise to expect Kenobi had a spare, unused crystal, just sitting in his shack, and it was there when Luke needed it, and accepted him.
I don't mind the villains sticking to one color; I feel it sort of helps them appear to embrace their choice, and show solidarity in purpose, but I guess I don't just want to see red restricted to them, when Legends Leia, I believe, also had a red saber (that she basically never used). Still, ido personally appreciate that Kun kept blue, even though he was as evil as they came.
I would definitely be down for darker or more anti hero characters using Orange Or Green that’s my preference in Kotor and the definitive Dark Lord should use red and if they uses two sabers red and another color depending on the lore they are given
What about Starkiller? Did he just use red blades or could you use any color in the game I dont remember
You could change the color of the blade in game, yeah. Wasn't Canon, obviously, just a gameplay thing. I remember finding a purple crystal, I believe in the Jedi Temple, and using that
It's weird I feel like I've watched this video before
As far as I remember, Legends version of Palpatine counts but was he really using a blue blade during Dark Empire arc? Wasn't The Emperor's blade purple or indigo? As far as I remember, the comic states nothing about it so fans interprent it anyhow, just like with Luke having a red saber during DE.
Why not white and black? For the light and dark side. I’ve always wondered why Lucas never made them this way. Does anyone know why?
Technical reasons. It was hard enough to get the red and blue sabers to show up onscreen in the original making of A New Hope
You forgot Darth Traya, famous for her three purple colored lightsabers
I belive if it cuts use it if it has significunce use it
I personally find the idea of a black colored blade like when Maul wielded the Darksaber to be perfectly fitting for a Sith Lord especially in tandem with a traditional red blade… at least until the true meaning of the black blade color is revealed, if ever.
What I would like to know is the specific crystal involved, if there was one and it wasn't some other method. How was the unique (and badass) color achieved?
I think the sith should stick to using red light sabers but with different shades of red.
So like darker or lighter or maybe a mix of red and other colors would be cool too. I'm pretty sure they already do that somewhat but I think they should broaden the red spectrum a bit more
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Red light sabers were inherently less stable stable but more more deadly, exar cun used blue blades To stabilize the already unstable shot halted double sided lightsaber.
It was a practical reason not a representational reason, He was a power hungry Sith after all.
So who's brave enough to wield a hot pink lightsaber?
Been a while since I’ve been here, HELLO!!
I agree red sith blue and green Jedi
What about purple both can’t use?
what about karness murr
and what about traya?
What about darth maul using the dark dabre
It would be to wierd to see sith use any lightsaber color other than red .
They did not "bleed" their crystals.
Does Darth Bane’s appearance change every few years?
Might just be me, but the audio seems quiet.
Or what about sith enchanted swords.
It’s better if the color of the saber is a personal preference. I think Exar Kun kept his saber color the same as it was when he was a Jedi to showcase his identity in the Force. He never died and became a Darth, he was always a bad egg from the start.
Wasnt banes hearth also orange?
Bane's what?
I only want people like mace windu, starkiller anakin, luke and his sisters 3 kids to and lowbacca to have unique color lightsabers cuz they are stronger and more significant than people like obi wan
The reason my own character, Darth Lazurus, uses green is due tae his belief in his independence. He sees Sith defining themselves by their hatred of the Jedi as flawed fools who are obessessed.
He has no love for the Jedi, he simple would claim that he has a true understanding of the Sith Code.
Why is your microphone so low?
LOL, XR. His name is Exar.
Awesome
Darth traya used 3 purple ones
Being reflective of their philosophies is the major reasoning - idk enough about Revan but from a layman's perspective he just carries around the purple saber to look cool & he in turn feels like a major departure from Lucas' original vision. Like starkillers backwards stance doesn't seem practical for immediate blocking or striking but the whole concept of force unleashed seemed to take the whole of Lucas' vision & turn it up to a ridiculous level intentionally, so it mostly works. Revan makes the whole legends universe feel like a joke just in his appearance alone. 'He was so cool he got both sides to respect him' doesn't help in the slightest with this but again idk a lot here
I would rather Jedi use a red Saber to signify discipline and vice versa (Still love that movie).
A Jedi using a red saber shows the understand the light and the dark. Being balanced is way more powerful than picking a side. When will that aspect be explored?
If I was a Sith I would use a green blade. 1. For deception
2. Just because it's my favorite color.
Rey Palpetine. Yellow.
I think I would consider it more insulting to the jedi for a sith to utilize a light Saber of jedi color.
I don't think Anakin should count since he had just turned to the dark side and didnt really have the time to change completely
Exactly