Your a animal for even building this wow be proud like super proud this isn't just a toy kit this is God engineering be proud your building history well done and epic job so far dam dude
Lovely work as always. But say my friends "You are not building a 9F?" AH But I am building 2 Class 2 tender locos in 5 inch gauge which have very similar Pony Trucks. Incredibly Useful and thank you. David and Lily. Reading England.
Hell again, Certainly glad to see you back. Afraid you were bit by the 19 bug.. Beautiful piece pf work. I am still shocked by the size of the parts. Everyone on channel is looking forward to your next installment. Watching that engine grow is fascinating. All the best, stay safe, stay well and that is a beautiful garden view you have as well.
Hi Robert - thanks for that. No sign of the 19 bug in the workshop! Regarding the garden view - apparently the one on the left is a pear tree, the one on the right is a magnolia. My wife has been introducing me to the green stuff that grows out of the ground! Who'd have thought!!!
That looks very complex, and I never noticed it before. It’s amazing what you don’t see when you don’t look properly, (does that actually make any sense at all?). Thanks for doing what you do, all the very best from Covid central. 👍😄😄😄
Thanks Graham - that makes perfect sense! I was surprised when I first looked at the drawings. I had to go and look at a full size one more closely than normal just to make sure!
Bonus ..... i'm glad you do a big mix of photo's we get so see more of the components in progress and your really considerate with showing the set-ups even in the photo's, that's looking really good now and the time your putting into it is really paying off, go and get yourself a beer out the fridge mate you deserve one .... i hope everyone's well at number 23 mk2 take care and stay safe
That is fantastic currently doing my 5 inch Britannia only just got it apart boiler has gone off for testing while I'm re working the chassis getting rid off all surfaces rust as it's been a static model for 6 years need a new ash pan too and grate enjoying every mint of it as you say though I forgot how heavy the dam thing was and it's a bit smaller of a locomotive brilliant Craig mate
Thank you Mark. It wont be long before your Brit is in steam! On my engine spinner the centre of rotation is offset from the chassis with makes the spin heavy. In theory, once the boiler is attached the axis of rotation should be nearer the centre of gravity of the loco making the rotation easier - in theory.....
@@no23mk2 yeah cant wait cant wait for your first steam too iv always loved the 9F and Britannia. When I come to put all back together I've a few higher detailed bits to go on new injectors at the ones my grandfather maid was a bit oversized and looked out of scale then come the task of painting her oh joy going for Brunswick green or maybe the oliver Cromwell lighter green depends how brave I feel. Then after all that is the black five witch is in bits and a unfinished model may need help with that one as I've not the skill of a builder like you and my grandfather
Hi Craig, another leap forward. I remember making the truck for my own 9F back in the 1980’s and it’s a pretty intricate but faithful model of the real thing! Forgive me if you already understand this, but it is also the purpose of the side control springs to help guide the front of the engine around curves, lateral force will be applied to the frames, once the truck moves “off centre”. It is therefore quite important to balance the stiffness of those springs with the axlebox springs, to avoid derailment of the truck on tight curves.
Hi again, I had to play around a bit with all the springing on mine, to get a reasonable weight distribution and to get the engine to sit level on the track.....it tends to be a bit heavy at the back end. Surprisingly for its wheelbase, when new I found it quite happy to negotiate curves as tight as 30 foot radius. The limiting factor was the available side movement of the pony truck, but negotiating a 27 foot radius turnout at the Derby track many years ago, caused problems....however that’s pretty tight! Cheers Don
@@DON9F1 Yes - I noticed that the weight distribution altered with the installation of the truck - taking some of the weight off the front drivers. I will review the springing one I have the boiler etc fitted. Thanks again Craig.
seriously impressive work, i must say I have only just found your channel but i shall certainly be having to have a catch up through all your videos. looking forward to seeing this progress. all the best
Very beautiful. Your drawings are very detailed I bought three Hudson drawings for $1000 and they didn't have a boiler section I'm from outside the United States
Hi, just wondered why the right hand bogie mounting to the A frame angle is on the outside and the left hand side is bolted under the angle. On my 7 1/4" gauge 9F the mounts are both inside the angle A frame. Beautiful job as usual though. Cheers. Geoff.
@@marknewell7355 Hi, yes it's a heavy loco about a ton alone. All done by a portable hydraulic motorcycle lift. The tender is a two man lift. Kind regards Geoff.
Thought I'd be forever be a year behind your posts but I've caught up! But here (without the drawing in front of me), it's hard to visualize some of the kinetic excursions and some of the spring functions in the pony truck assembly. Regardless: 10:10 - Your hand file finishing is top-notch! 22:49 - Simple it might be, but clever it is. 26:48 - Ah, the sound of brass being pealed from its parent! Added by edit: I've fitted a DRO similar to yours to my mill, X&Y only. The X-axis power feed is looking very handy, but it looks like the T-slot on the front of the table (being occupied by the DRO stuff) will not allow fitting of the auto-stop on the power feed. Is that correct?
Thank you. It's easily the most complicated part of the build so far. Even with the drawing in front of me it wasn't at all apparent how it worked. Not until it started to be assembled did I fully understand it!
@@no23mk2 Thanks; if it took you a while, with the parts in front of you, I'm relieved about not understanding the kinetics from the vid. I'll probably watch this post several more times in the hopes of understanding the excursions and spring functions; nobody put those there for nothing. If you have more vids explaining the issue, I'd love to save any over-heating of the skull. Also (and again), I've got an X-axis power feed arriving for installation (a Morphon drive), and I'm still curious whether and how the auto-stop clips are fitted, given my DRO uses up the T-slot on the front of the table as does yours. And also how closely do you trust the stops once they are fitted?
Looking really good sir! Can you give is an estimate of the loco's present weight as is other than "Bloody heavy" lol ? It Should be easy enough to drop it down onto a set of bathroom scales I would think.
Ha! I aren't moving it to anywhere it doesn't need to move to!!! What I can tell you is that the loco (minus tender), when finished and in working condition will weigh around 100kg.
Hi, congratulation, what a great job!! Please were did you buy your drawings? I wan to start the huge adventure and challenge with a 3.5 gauge. I order the drawings of Rob Roy but went lost by Italian mail 😟, in Italy I can’t find those things. After that my daughter say dad why you don’t build the great Evening star? If you wan to do... do it great. And I love challenge! But is important to start with a great drawing, I bought also the Martin Evans book
Hi Andrea, Thank you. The drawings are available from Blackgates Engineering. This is the link to their catalogue. The 3.5 inch Evening Star is on page 11. www.blackgates.co.uk/CAT_Blackgates_Catalogue_2019.pdf I wish you well and hope you enjoy the experience as much as I have. Best regards, Craig
I estimate another five years or so to complete.... Of the 251 built, only one was named and painted in lined green livery. That was 92220 'Evening Star' all the other 250 were finished in unlined black. Mine will be one of the unnamed black ones. At least at first....
20:40.. That Setup is so simple but effective! I relly never seen it! Great! Thanks for sharing!
You're welcome!
Your a animal for even building this wow be proud like super proud this isn't just a toy kit this is God engineering be proud your building history well done and epic job so far dam dude
Thank you - much appreciated!
Lovely work as always.
But say my friends "You are not building a 9F?" AH But I am building 2 Class 2 tender locos in 5 inch gauge which have very similar Pony Trucks. Incredibly Useful and thank you.
David and Lily. Reading England.
Thank you both. I'm pleased it's of use to you.
Cheers Craig.
Hell again, Certainly glad to see you back. Afraid you were bit by the 19 bug.. Beautiful piece pf work. I am still shocked by the size of the parts. Everyone on channel is looking forward to your next installment. Watching that engine grow is fascinating. All the best, stay safe, stay well and that is a beautiful garden view you have as well.
Hi Robert - thanks for that. No sign of the 19 bug in the workshop! Regarding the garden view - apparently the one on the left is a pear tree, the one on the right is a magnolia. My wife has been introducing me to the green stuff that grows out of the ground! Who'd have thought!!!
That looks very complex, and I never noticed it before. It’s amazing what you don’t see when you don’t look properly, (does that actually make any sense at all?). Thanks for doing what you do, all the very best from Covid central. 👍😄😄😄
Thanks Graham - that makes perfect sense! I was surprised when I first looked at the drawings. I had to go and look at a full size one more closely than normal just to make sure!
Bonus ..... i'm glad you do a big mix of photo's we get so see more of the components in progress and your really considerate with showing the set-ups even in the photo's, that's looking really good now and the time your putting into it is really paying off, go and get yourself a beer out the fridge mate you deserve one .... i hope everyone's well at number 23 mk2 take care and stay safe
Cheers Andy - Beer already going down the old neck! All's well here thanks. I trust you're all good at your end. Keep Well.
@@no23mk2 I should have guessed .... we're all good thank you Craig
That is fantastic currently doing my 5 inch Britannia only just got it apart boiler has gone off for testing while I'm re working the chassis getting rid off all surfaces rust as it's been a static model for 6 years need a new ash pan too and grate enjoying every mint of it as you say though I forgot how heavy the dam thing was and it's a bit smaller of a locomotive brilliant Craig mate
Thank you Mark. It wont be long before your Brit is in steam! On my engine spinner the centre of rotation is offset from the chassis with makes the spin heavy. In theory, once the boiler is attached the axis of rotation should be nearer the centre of gravity of the loco making the rotation easier - in theory.....
@@no23mk2 yeah cant wait cant wait for your first steam too iv always loved the 9F and Britannia. When I come to put all back together I've a few higher detailed bits to go on new injectors at the ones my grandfather maid was a bit oversized and looked out of scale then come the task of painting her oh joy going for Brunswick green or maybe the oliver Cromwell lighter green depends how brave I feel. Then after all that is the black five witch is in bits and a unfinished model may need help with that one as I've not the skill of a builder like you and my grandfather
Great episode! You're hitting it spot on with the mix of stills and video. Looking forward to the next installment
Thanks - that's good to know.
A pleasure to watch , thank you
Cheers Derek
I like the Fixture for boring the the bearing blocks out, thanks for sharing, great work!
Thanks Roy. It is well worth the effort to make the fixture - it saves a lot of time and guarantees accuracy and repeatability.
A beautiful job my friend!!
Thank you Terry.
It`s nice to have all the tools to do this with.!!!!!!!!!!!
Many years of tool acquisition....
Hi Craig, another leap forward. I remember making the truck for my own 9F back in the 1980’s and it’s a pretty intricate but faithful model of the real thing!
Forgive me if you already understand this, but it is also the purpose of the side control springs to help guide the front of the engine around curves, lateral force will be applied to the frames, once the truck moves “off centre”. It is therefore quite important to balance the stiffness of those springs with the axlebox springs, to avoid derailment of the truck on tight curves.
Thank you Don, that's good to know and makes perfect sense now that you've explained it.
Thanks again, Craig
Hi again, I had to play around a bit with all the springing on mine, to get a reasonable weight distribution and to get the engine to sit level on the track.....it tends to be a bit heavy at the back end.
Surprisingly for its wheelbase, when new I found it quite happy to negotiate curves as tight as 30 foot radius. The limiting factor was the available side movement of the pony truck, but negotiating a 27 foot radius turnout at the Derby track many years ago, caused problems....however that’s pretty tight!
Cheers Don
@@DON9F1 Yes - I noticed that the weight distribution altered with the installation of the truck - taking some of the weight off the front drivers. I will review the springing one I have the boiler etc fitted. Thanks again Craig.
G'day mate you've done a bloody nice job of that and you explained it well, regards John
Cheers John.
Excellent as usual 👌
Cheers Derek
seriously impressive work, i must say I have only just found your channel but i shall certainly be having to have a catch up through all your videos. looking forward to seeing this progress. all the best
Thank you James.
Absolutely outstanding thank you
Thank you David.
tanks for the new video. great work!
Thank you.
Looks fantastic great work
Thank you.
bravo . tres bon travail !
Thank you!
that's looking very good. I wish I could turn out work to that standard. I need a bigger scrap bin!
Thank you Paul. Dont worry, we all make scrap!
paul rayner don't we all! Lol
Very beautiful. Your drawings are very detailed
I bought three Hudson drawings for $1000 and they didn't have a boiler section
I'm from outside the United States
Thank you Reinhard - Those are expensive drawings you have there!
Excellent.
Cheers Dave!
Hi, just wondered why the right hand bogie mounting to the A frame angle is on the outside and the left hand side is bolted under the angle. On my 7 1/4" gauge 9F the mounts are both inside the angle A frame. Beautiful job as usual though. Cheers. Geoff.
Well spotted sir! Operator error. It has been put together and taken apart a number of times. That's tomorrows job sorted out then!
Hi, as I say a beautiful job as usual.
It may be why it's a little stiff ,lovely job though. Kind regards Geoff.
@@geoffoldcorn7406 Thanks Geoff - more than likely!
7 1/4 inch by god how you move it about lol I struggle with 5 inch gauge locomotives
@@marknewell7355 Hi, yes it's a heavy loco about a ton alone. All done by a portable hydraulic motorcycle lift. The tender is a two man lift. Kind regards Geoff.
Thought I'd be forever be a year behind your posts but I've caught up!
But here (without the drawing in front of me), it's hard to visualize some of the kinetic excursions and some of the spring functions in the pony truck assembly. Regardless:
10:10 - Your hand file finishing is top-notch!
22:49 - Simple it might be, but clever it is.
26:48 - Ah, the sound of brass being pealed from its parent!
Added by edit: I've fitted a DRO similar to yours to my mill, X&Y only. The X-axis power feed is looking very handy, but it looks like the T-slot on the front of the table (being occupied by the DRO stuff) will not allow fitting of the auto-stop on the power feed. Is that correct?
Thank you. It's easily the most complicated part of the build so far. Even with the drawing in front of me it wasn't at all apparent how it worked. Not until it started to be assembled did I fully understand it!
@@no23mk2 Thanks; if it took you a while, with the parts in front of you, I'm relieved about not understanding the kinetics from the vid. I'll probably watch this post several more times in the hopes of understanding the excursions and spring functions; nobody put those there for nothing. If you have more vids explaining the issue, I'd love to save any over-heating of the skull.
Also (and again), I've got an X-axis power feed arriving for installation (a Morphon drive), and I'm still curious whether and how the auto-stop clips are fitted, given my DRO uses up the T-slot on the front of the table as does yours.
And also how closely do you trust the stops once they are fitted?
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Looking really good sir! Can you give is an estimate of the loco's present weight as is other than "Bloody heavy" lol ? It Should be easy enough to drop it down onto a set of bathroom scales I would think.
Ha! I aren't moving it to anywhere it doesn't need to move to!!! What I can tell you is that the loco (minus tender), when finished and in working condition will weigh around 100kg.
Hi, congratulation, what a great job!! Please were did you buy your drawings? I wan to start the huge adventure and challenge with a 3.5 gauge. I order the drawings of Rob Roy but went lost by Italian mail 😟, in Italy I can’t find those things. After that my daughter say dad why you don’t build the great Evening star? If you wan to do... do it great. And I love challenge! But is important to start with a great drawing, I bought also the Martin Evans book
Hi Andrea, Thank you. The drawings are available from Blackgates Engineering. This is the link to their catalogue. The 3.5 inch Evening Star is on page 11.
www.blackgates.co.uk/CAT_Blackgates_Catalogue_2019.pdf
I wish you well and hope you enjoy the experience as much as I have.
Best regards, Craig
Nice work! Complicated old bit that was!
Cheers John - Who'd have thought that there was all that gubbins behind those little truck wheels???
When do you estimate you will be completely finished with the 9F and what are you going to call it?
I estimate another five years or so to complete....
Of the 251 built, only one was named and painted in lined green livery. That was 92220 'Evening Star' all the other 250 were finished in unlined black. Mine will be one of the unnamed black ones. At least at first....
@@no23mk2 can't wait keep up the good work
Why is one leg of the A-Frame flanged, and the other flat?
Well spotted! Operator error - now corrected.