Whistler but on 300mm of Suspension
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ส.ค. 2022
- I finally took out the 300mm Boostmonster huck bike to The Whistler Bike Park and tested it out on the trails! I wanted to feel what 12" of suspension feels on these high speed jumps and tech trails! Some worked better than others! I learned a few things though, I decided after the fact that I need higher air pressure in my tires and also foam inserts!
This fork felt super good on the big drops and landings! There were a few issues on some of the faster tech though, I am hoping to get it all figured out and running amazingly soon enough!
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Whistler but on 300mm of Suspension
• Whistler but on 300mm ...
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Eventually we're gonna have a bike with enought travel to roll over the entire whistler mountain range without noticing
10000000 inch wheels 🤣
I love how the marzocchi fanbois eyes light up when they see the pre 08 forks 😍😂
Pre-Marz going to shit ;-)
@@ebeaudry929 they stood the test of time, and alot are still in commission. On retro free ride builds anyway.
@@ebeaudry929tell that to jordan and mines super ts lol. Idk what else to say 😅 in 15 years people will be having to rebuild all these new ones. So i dont see an issue in having to rebuild most of the pre 2008s they have been ridden for a long time. And the fact that they are still rebuildable and not shot stands the test of time.
YES
Wilson and Boostmonster are becoming the most iconic bikes in mtb youtube community 👌👍
yes!!
Man I can really see when you get to faster sections how quickly the momentum increases. I bet once you get it dialed in you’ll be incredibly fast all around
"...but I felt like going for one last lap..." [OMINOUS FORESHADOWING MUSIC]
I have no "actual" knowledge of how fork compression circuits work, but my armchair assumption is that the HSC journals/holes could be enlarged to allow more flow at max HSC. In my mind you are feeling the system suddenly overwhelmed on those high speed square-hits and literally hydro-locking the suspension for a split second. Absolutely amazing project and entertaining video though as always. Thanks Jordan!
bike is now a video cam stabilizer ! epic
AWESOME jump bike 🤣🤞👍❤🇬🇧🇺🇸
The delivery on "...so that pisses me off" @23:18 is priceless, haha.
I love this project
dang this was awesome
100% recommend cushcore in addition to gravity casings. I was able to blast through downieville lower at only 20psi with not damage to the rims despite the roots and rocks.
ya I agree, I have super gravity casings on the magic mary's and I'm trying cushcore in the front and tannus armour in the rear now!
@@JordanBoostmaster If you want to be able to still use a tube in the rear you can look at Tannus Armour inserts
the boostermonsters real debut. this sure has been long awaited
I just found this channel and the fact your trying to build the ultimate DH/free ride bike got me to sub because I've been wanting to see someone do this for a long time.
Maybe a tyre insert for the rear tyre will compensate for the heavy weight of the bicycle, and have an even more plush ride.Your machine looks so comfy!
That's the Kind of "Soft" entertainment i like
I See whatcha did there 😏
@@RandomDudeOnTH-cam I dunno it just "Sprung" into my mind
@@viethknorr5389 i am SHOCKed when hearing you use those words
@@falk.r.h8963 ok than i DAMPER my behavior
@@viethknorr5389 english isnt my native lanuage so i cant really FRAME my sentences good enough to compete with you as you are clearly a SAGe in the art of using damping language XD
I love watching the boostmonsters journey as the craziest MTB ever made. I'm not sure how I'd react to seeing something like that at the park.
I've scoured TH-cam and pinkbike for quality super monster ride footage for over a decade. Finally you are showcasing exactly what I've been seeking!
I'm glad I can be of service!
I think you have to take the Boostmonster to the Kamloops Bike Ranch🤔
YES Ive been waiting for this video...
I had the 8" version of these, they were amazing back in the day, heavy for sure but they never felt flustered.
ohh yeah definitely more Whistler content pleeeeease!! sick video bro
boost gang for life
If you can see where the coil is rubbing the shock, a simple solution might be to simply rotate the coil so the rub spot sits in the gap between coils if it’s on a corner. Long springs may also compress in an arc and need to be rotated to compensate if the rub is in the middle of the shock body.
Yaaaay been eating for this so long
Should do "Whistler on a hardtail!" after this, LOL
With rigid fork, like an old Trek 850 crome molly frame and chrome molly fork. Old school.
That was sick, I wish I was there shredding with you boys! You animals! YEEWWW!!!! :D \m/
YEEWWWWWW!!!!
@@JordanBoostmaster YEAH BUDDY! 👊😃🤘
Your best bet for the rear suspension is to contact Craig at Avalanche... He might be a bit quirky, but as long as you are honest about your skill level with him, he will build a shock, or modify a shock, that's perfectly matched to your imes leverage curve, riding style, and rider weight. I've got a bomber cr coming from him this week, long shocking my knolly delirium. I'd be willing to bet that having an Avy modded shock in the rear would solve all your rear suspension issues
thanks I think I will contact them!
@@JordanBoostmaster I also had a Boxxer ride (basically a 2005 boxxer team with u turn travel adjustment) rebuilt by Risse Suspension. I'd check them out to see if they can offer any insight on the super monster... Or maybe even another option for the rear shock.
So sick bikes mental I’m in whistler for first time as I’m from England I go home Wednesday been awesome here last day of riding is Monday for me be sweet to bump into you on trails 🇨🇦😁
not gonna lie I absolutely love the ! exclamation marks on the rides it makes it like a video game
I love the entire process of making this bike better and better
Have been waiting for this since a long time! Love the video man keep on the good work!
That bike eats those trails like it should, it is from the era that made whistler the bike park known today. Also it crossed my mind about maybe there is to much "sidesways" pressure and the shock is actually flexing a bit, tighten the spring more and use the adjustments . good luck Awesome video! cant wait for the sun peaks one!
Imagine putting a mid drive ebike kit on this puppy, you could hit 40 mph on the level and fly up ramps,batteries in a backpack 👍🤘
Love seeing the progression of the BoostMonster. Such a sweet bike. Cheers, mate!
Get tannus armour insert. They have one witch you must use it with a tube. Its a great piece of kit, highly recommended! :D
I put that in recently now!
@@JordanBoostmaster good choice bro, they are awesome. I had about 5 punctures in the last 2 years with them, mostly from hitting roks at Mach 7 speed 🤣 🤟
Awesome run, JB. Appreciate the commitment to get the 'Monster dialed in just right.
In for the compilation build vid, once you have everything complete. Loving jow the Boost Monster makes the jumps/drops so smooth. Handles like a champ, congrats on the continued progression with it.
I was waiting for this video 🤘🤘
I live in Whistler the reason Creekside gondola is closed is because there rebuilding it.
Good job Curtis!! First time on that drop was epic🤙🏻
Looks like your fork is spiking. To be honest mate I think you’d be more controlled on a newer fork with modern damping. But as long as you’re having fun that’s the main thing 👌🏻
Yeah he would be better on a fox 40 or boxxer, but that's not really the point. He's trying to get this old unique fork to perform similar to a modern fork if not better by just having more travel, and its somehow actually working better than them in some places lmao
Isn’t that like 10 inches?!?!?!? Siiick, keep it up bro
12 inches!
Wwoooowwwww a whole foot?!? Time for a 50 foot drop 😎
Hey Jordan, did you ever think you'd be getting stopped for you autograph? Awesome video!
The supermonster stanshions have an extra hole drilled in them compared to normal monsters. They were developed mostly for big drops not techy downhill trails. I understand Egor and a few others may disagree with that statement and tell you different but its true. The only other 300mm fork produced was the risse bigfoot and that was also developed for the same thing. You will always have issues trying to run a super monster if you’re going to use them for something else 😂
fair enough! thats good to know, so your saying that with that extra hole drilled in, it will cause less damping then? An extra hole in both stanchions?
@@JordanBoostmaster probably something to do with the different cartridges also, with the sumos they had different internals and stanchions more specific to extreme freeriding. I’ve not got a set myself but i’ve done a whole lot of research into converting normal monsters and thats what i’ve found out so far. Egor has been a good help in explaining a lot of this to me also
@@drumandbassking12345 I see interesting, I wonder if I could just cover a hole if I wanted? I'm still trying to learn how this suspension all works!
@@JordanBoostmaster you would have better luck having new cartridge tubes made (or possibly use normal Monster tubes?) and if you needed to add a smaller hole later
I remember back in the day i had a Junior-T and to really make it feel plush on those small bump we used lighter weight oil, but cant remember if it was 5W or 10W from a MX forks oil it worked great and made a huge difference in the fork and how it felt
You have to experiment. Ride it and see. It's not hard and doesn't need to take a long time. When it's great, you know you're there.
I get the same noise from my EXT shock as well......just thought it was normal over the coul rubbing on the shock, I'll look into that
Edit:
Hey Jordan i think it would be cool if you found someone that makes custom frames that could make one for this fork and shock (so that it has "normal" geometry), they can be really expensive but if you give them a shout out or something i thing its doable
Sorry that i reposted the comment but my brain switched off while making the original and it was a bit nonsense
Generally people don’t accept shout outs, especially when it’s something expensive
@@KingPlayz_MC maybe the can lower the price or something like that or if they also make yourube videos as full time job and do the collaboration it could be for free. I have no idea how this could work, i just think its interesting and should be a way to do it somewhat cheap
Needs a 21" motorcycle front wheel. Bicycle wheels are too skinny.
@@redtobertshateshandles hmmmmm
This has been very interesting. You would think with longer forks you would have more difficulty with handling. But you made it look good. Thanks for sharing this with us.
So sick!!!!
What a weapon that bike is man can't wait till you get it setup right
You know he’s looking epic and awesome Jordan, also using my imagination I’d save OH WOW HE RIDES GREAT. For the future I might come up to Whistler to get experience and spend all day.
great video, sick riding, sendy vibes!
What a crazy day!
Awesome riding dude 🤩🤘🔥
Wesley - I hope the cows be putting out some milk! Miss ya in the vids bro!
Great bike💯
gotta say fair play, everyone out there saying they need more travel but you are riding the hell out of that big heavy thing!
💥💥💥 sick!!!
Your airtime was so long on some of the jumps you needed to book annual leave for it!
I love the fistbump sounds :D
I’ve had great success with my Rimpact inserts. I run them on my Giant Reign on 2.6” wide Schwalbe tires, over Stan’s Mk3 (35mm inner width) rims. Great damping properties, too, and easier to install over Cushcore
You have to go to big White on that thing before it closes
Sick dude
E… (this is sick saw it on insta when you were rebuilding the fork)
It’s still a human powered moto bike! Cool man I love this!
You will get it dialled in eventually, then it will be the dream
yeessss
I love my marz forks, still using two from 2011. I built a bike like this in 2010 and its still an amazing ride and I feel like I can ride anything. 2009 rogue, fox 40, dhx coil. 2.5" tires at 27psi. it is so smooth and absorbs anything it hits. no bottoming. the dual compression circuits in both front and rear makes the suspension killer
hey mate I'm no expert but seeing as the fork is a coil the spiking has to be damper related. oil not passing through valves fast enough. think experimenting with lighter weight oil would be at very least an interesting experiment
yes I agree, I had 10 wt oil and I am now trying 7.5
Something i would like to add, love the norco frame by the way, had one of those years ago but not as cool as yours. However propain produced a frame in 2011 called the rage. 10inch travel factory. I still have mine, such a cool old bike.
Honestly with a rear tube I'd say 30psi is bar minimum... Prolly run at least 35psi with your setup and how you ride. That said, tubeless with inserts would be my preference 🙃
ya I have to agree, I'm still afraid of tubeless in the rear, but I at least have a foam insert with tube now in the rear
lol I saw you at whistler
Jordan, I use slime tube sealant in my tubes. Haven’t had a flat in a long time now. Even rim pinchers don’t exist anymore. Best $8 you’ll ever spend.
SICKKKKNESSSSS!!!!!!!!
bouncy bike bounces bouncly
bad azz man! 😎
I remember dirt merchant very well
You should look into trying to make your own frame... like Pinkbike did with the grim donut. Or maybe you can build it yourself??
Hi Jordan really nice video, and i love the bike, i think, and a lot more in the audience could agree with me is you should paint the bike frame a nice modern color.
Sounds like your fork is compression spiking, 10wt oil is thicker than marzocchi's 7.5 isn't it? Maybe oil level is too high?
yes that is true, that is actually what I was starting to realize lately, I am now going to try out the 7.5 wt oil
Wouldn't surprise me if dh bikes end up with 300mm travel again, I mean it works great with motorcycles
Yep. Old dirt bike rider here. I remember bikes hitting 12 inches. It was like magic.
You could try a Procore in the rear. I'm running it in a 26" rim that's not tubeless ready with a wire bead magic mary and the inner tube helps seal it up so good I lose zero pressure over weeks of storage. I've done a few runs in rocky places with 8 psi without getting a flat. It's a double edged sword because it sucks when you do get a flat but it reduces the chance greatly.
Wow that’s some insane trail riding I wish I could still ride but my bike broke 😂
i would run my non tubeless tires without tubes and just put stans in there. if you have a good dh casing tire (i used maxxis dhf front and rear) , and a good tape around the rim it will easily hold the 20-40ish psi most people ride at. might be worth a try to avoid hiking out again.
Dirt Merchant is so much fun!!!
@Jordan Boostmaster if you still wanna run tubes in the rear they is this product called tannus armour
This day must have been a long time ago was in whis recently and didn't see this much snow when was this filmed?
it was mid july
ive always wanted a DH bike. this is such a nice bike i wish I had it
i think it would be awesome if you had a gopro pointed directly at the fork while you ride it
Saw your instagram then found this 🤘
Thx youtube for new bike, thx peapole
Hey Jordan, where do you mount you GoPro? The footage is amazing!
What’s next 300mm disk brakes?
It might be the rebound? The shock might be too compressed after those smaller, yet harsh, consistent hits, and too slow to return to droop so you're bottoming out.
I was thinking the same, slow down the compression and speed up the rebound just a bit for all the rapid hit's so it's not packing down.
I've never bottomed it out yet though, the compression is wide open too, the fork doesn't give me the chance to pack up because the rebound is too fast. But one thing I am trying now is lighter weight oil!
Hahahahah 11:57 was my mates and I, been waiting to see that in a video😂
lol
@@JordanBoostmaster can you legally adopt me J J boostdog
entertaining to watch haha. how many tires you go through in a season?
That bike makes it look like you are turning a double-black into a blue.
It’s sooo big. “That’s what she said” sorry man. I couldn’t pass the opportunity 😫😂
An old Wilson 2 would be a good frame for that fork
Jordan: rides over root
The root: im gonna be moist today all tires shall be repelled
Also Jordan: HAHA DAS COOL