You're still going to have to interact with it if you ever want to sell the items your Subs bring back. Also, interacting with the MB is about ten thousand times easier and less frustrating than dealing with Sub routes, parts, and upkeep.
TYSM for this guide. My small FC fell apart and basically left me with an upgraded sub I've never so much as looked at before, and this was a huge help in learning what to do with this "inheritance" 😂 All the information out there on reddit and discord is indeed overwhelming and this was super straight forward to understand for a complete beginner like myself.
I run the subs for my FC, I use that gil to fund events like raffles, costume contest prizes ect. It’s really nice to be able to have fun events planned and use the FC workshop to fund it.
Wanted to comment and say thanks for this video. I watched it the day it came out and started working on subs immediately. Yesterday marked the first day that I had all 4 subs running OJ and they brought back 411k worth of salvage. So thank you for bringing this to my attention.
Thank you for making all of this information super clear and easy to understand. I was a little intimidated by submarines before but having all the extra info cut out is very helpful!
I watched this video 3 months ago and my first sub is about to hit rank 85 with others at rank 81, 75 and 43. I wouldn't have had the motivation to get into this, so thanks!
I watched this when I had two subs over 101 last year, they are now 115 and the other two are 95. I just made my first set of modified parts and got insanely lucky to the point I have 3/4 the mats I'd need for another set of parts and upgrades. My hope is to have all four upgraded by the time Dawntrail releases. I just wish for someone who has trouble with the acronym stuff, that people would write things out fully for builds. Its *hell* for people with dyslexia to follow most of these community guides.
This is a hole you don't want to dig in without thinking about it. Easiest way to get it done: -Create alt Guild -Level up for some months in all shark Parts -On level 85 Start OJ That's it, your done, if your just running a single or two FCs it's imo not worth putting money into modded parts. You see, modded parts are worth millions of Gil, but a full FC of modded parts only makes 8mill Gil more per YEAR. MB price for modded full is like 12 mill per ship Once you are done with one guild you can start creating new FCs which needs a second account in the creation process (because of only 1 guildhouse per account on a server while bidding), nice If you need chocobo feathers After many months you will end up sending out retainers for dark matter and several characters, are forced to do daily checks on subs on different characters just to get Gil, which you will totally not use or need! This is a Gil easy game If it's a fun activity for you it's an amazing time filler tho Another tip: create a linkshell for all your Alts so jumping guilds is as easy as opening linkshell to aplly to the FC from there
So I've been spearheading the Submersible project solo for my own FC, and I will say that you can technically start the gil making process at rank 75 with fully modified sub parts running the JORZ course. The subs at rank 75 and fully modified with the recommended parts will only be able to go to JO until rank 82 (or 84, I forget which one) and then they can hit JOR for a 36 hour cycle. At some point, you'll be able to do the full JORZ rotation, but I only recommend doing this if you want to start making gil as swiftly as possible, even if it slows the leveling process down, preventing you from hitting those higher thresholds faster. My submersibles are all between 76-85, and I'm still pulling a couple million or so while they level throughout the week / week and a half time frame, and starting that process as fast as I could helped facilitate me paying for materials for the latter crafted submersibles.
This is super helpful, as I am just cresting the Rank 50 mark myself (4th sub built today). Great info/heads up in this post, thanks! My ENTIRE goal is to make back the 4.8 mil i spent on house and lot and workshop and mats, plus another 20mil to move to transfer to a Med House (where ill stay perma) and another 20mil for my own pockets. Im in for the long haul, but super excited to start seeing some gil trickle in and was curious if i'd have to wait till rank 100 or if it could come sooner. Many thanks!
@@ventusvero4484 I had similar goals, which is why I wanted to start the Gil making process more than I wanted to level. Still happy with my decision to do it this way, so I’m glad to be of help!
Omg I laughed so hard at the beginning when you showed those discord slides. No offense to the discord as i am sure this was hard work to figure out and it is very much appreciated they have all those information. But. As someone that just inherited submarines i feel so overwhelemed by everything there is. So thanks a lot for this guide!!!
Huh. I just checked and my FC has four 81-90 subs right now. I took over my FC a year ago because everyone else got burnt out. I've maintained control of it, but with only 6 people logging in within the last year, I didn't really do much besides logging in biweekly to keep our FC house and my leadership. I can't believe I've been sleeping on this lucrative Gil-making machine!!
Started following this guide like four months ago. Subs will be home in the morning and i can finally outfit them in WSUC! Awesome guide, sir! I'll be back in a FREAKIN YEAR to commend you again when i hit 101 and upgrade to the next stage! lmao.
I can add my own 2 gil on this as the person who mans the subs for my FC. Bubs is correct on pacing yourself. You are right to get hyped about the money, which is awesome, but for most people who started today they'd barely start recouping their investment by Christmas. It's a slow process and you just have to get into a rhythm with it. Also, get ready to grind those repair kits. XD
It really boils down to; if you are alright with losing a lot of gil to start a project that you may not see profit on in potentially a year, okay with potentially ditching your FC if and when someone tries to muscle in and cash out on your hard work having done nothing (really only a problem if it's a sizeable FC though; a friend group FC would understand to respect the boundary on something like that), and having a side project that effectively requires itself to always be on your mind to reap the full benefits of it. I ditched my FC for a chance at a house on Dynamis (a decision that was questionable to begin with, but I had planned on moving to Dynamis regardless), got an FC medium for myself, ran myself down 56 million with the cost of the house and subs, and only paid off the house 6 months later. It's a long grind, but worth it with how fairly low maintenance and effort it is when you get it all running. And I wouldn't have someone over my shoulder trying to guilt trip me into donating up to a few million for each Free Company event that I wouldn't have ever participated in.
I've been playing FFXIV for 6 years now... have multiple FC's on a few different servers with my spouse and friends... I'm super casual and love casual crafting/gil making... for some reason (unknown to me) I've never jumped into this part of the game. Thank you so much for such a great explanation! I'm excited to get going.
Watched this video several months ago. My first run of four Level 85 WSUCs just came back an hour ago, with over 400k gil in salvage in tow. My FC friends are gonna be loaded when Dawntrail hits.
Thank you so much dude ❤️ this video saved me from being poor! A couple of months ago I watched your video and did everything you said. Now I have 4 subs farming gil with OJ! I did all the parts for subs and everything without buying anything from the market board, gather all the mats and everything alone 🔥 so it can be done by 1 person a 100% (For people wondering, just use crafting websites to track your mats and timed nodes and it makes the crafting extremelly simple, you can gatherer and craft everything ahead of time)
Only reason I made my own FC was for the airships but I learned submarines were better I tried learning it and got confused, your video was very helpful and you clarified some things I've read in written guides that I didn't understand, thank you
@@TheGhostFarti dont understand why, my first 2 houses were smalls and i genuinely like the look of them and feel like they are more cozy and easy to decorate in general. I still prefer having a large though due to more space and having 3 gardens for onion farming.
Have to say, I'm glad I've kinda inherited my FC subs (FC leader is on hiatus, most likely until shortly before 7.0 comes out), so it's mainly working to get them upgraded to reach the current money makers. Just doing the research now to understand before I mess with the current routes that he was using
THANK YOU! I have been trying to find information on how subs work but I have not been able to understand any of the information I've come across. This video was HUGE help. You're getting a sub for this sub video.
3 things you may have overloockt > You do not need SSUC++ to farm OJ, running just WSUC unmodefied is all you realy need to do, only real difrence is how much time you have to redeploy in the 24h window ~30 min the loot is the same, also fully modefide subs need more Repair matirials per repair, so its cheeper to run unmodefied subs as well, you only realy go ++ if you aiming to run 48h subs, what you only realy do if you have more than one fc running subs > its a good idee to swap out for - - U - at level 15 given that you need it for lvl 85 annyway, it gives you more range, waht gives you more notes to dive to, and i personly like to get - - - W as well so the redeploy ends up somewaht near to 48 houers > your FC Needs to be rank 6 for buying a plot. the by far easyest way to level an fc is to do Expert Deliveris with your grand company 67 Facet Rings is all you need thy are quite cheep to craft as well but im personely looking in to EW gear now for crafting, if its worth swiching over to that as turnin
Started 05/11/24, currently 8/15/24. I have been mostly soloing this while gathering and crafting the majority that I can. Currently have all 4 subs, have unlocked the first and second map, and my subs are: 75, 74, 74, and 65. May end up at 84 sometime next month. Really appreciate this video!
Thank you. Because of this video I have a reason for the subs. Before it was a novelty thing to get items without having to pay for them. Having all 4 subs going and, 2 in the late 60s, this plan is so doable and so easy. THANK YOU!!! THIS MADE IT ALL MASE SENCE!!!
first of all: your guide is really extremely helpful! I just have one question: what is the best thing to do with old, no longer used ship parts? I saw that you can exchange them for a "box", but I can't find an explanation ANYWHERE about what this is good for and how you could use it for whatever...
You take them to the NPC named "Material Supplier"- there's one in every housing district, and they have a menu option called "Submersible Frames" Then you trade that part for a frame of the same name (which conveniently stacks, so if you;'re making a lot of submersibles all at once it can help save on inventory space). As for what to do with the frames when you have them, once you unlock the Submersible VI set of schematics from the schematic board, the very first item needed for a Modified submersible part is that type of frame (so if you're making a Modified Shark-class Pressure Hull, you needed to turn in a normal Shark-class Pressure Hull for a Shark-class pressure Hull Frame).
This is the video I needed. Something to explain how I could make passive income without interacting with the market board using a system I already have access to.
Ha this is some nice timing. Been meaning to look up those Sectors again. Once tried that Method to see how it goes but then forgot the Sectors after going back to unlocking the new ones
I have my own FC with a 4 sub fleet doing this exact method and I wouldn't be mad if they nerfed this. I'm surprised they haven't - especially with the amount of shell FCs you see. It's not *too* easy - it's a lot of work to get it set up and running and takes a while before you see a ROI - but it's a feature that shouldn't be locked behind FC housing imo.
With the heavy time investment required, I doubt they'll nerf this like they did leves. Shadowbringer's Coffee Biscuit was more of a Gil nightmare. Since that was low effort, triple turn in, for double gil each, on (3) HQ craft per Leve used. Which you could max 100 atleast twice a month. Yes you had to make 900 Coffee Biscuits, but Gil ROI was broken.
@@Icy.Jalapeno You're right, the fact that it's heavy time investment and locked behind something quite limited means it won't spiral like the leve situation did. Everyone did the leves (although Dwarven Mythril was better than Coffee Biscuits for ROI). The subs and this method have been around for ages as well, so the fact it hasn't been nerfed after so long may mean you can be optimistic about the future of your fleet. However, seeing a certain streamer/TH-camr with over 100 FCs/fleets make over a billion a month with this method... you have to admit once it's all set up for farming that zone, submarines are nuts and all they have to do to nerf it is reduce the value of the salvaged pieces.
So they nerfed all the gems that you get from salvaged farming in 5.4? I think. And in return they upped how much salvaged acc were worth so it evened out. I don’t think they plan on changing it again from there.
This video's a year old, how have the sub income rates changed since? do you plan on making a new video with the updated numbers? I just started leveling my subs I have only unlocked 2 so far haha been doing it by myself so my Gil has suffered quite a bit but im being patient. Also how far can you push the shark class sub now? I have 2 being used and 2 more I already crafted in storage for when I unlock them. last question is what do you do with the old parts after you can't use them anymore?
What does the rank mean on the individual parts of the submarine when you craft them? Does that go up the more you send it out? Not the overall rank of the sub, but the individual pieces you craft and can have in your inventory. Thank you!
It means the Sub needs to be that Rank in order to equip that part. For example, a brand new Sub at rank 1 can ONLY equip Shark parts. Once the sub has ranked up to 15, you can use Shark (requires the sub be rank 1 at least) or Unkiu (requires the sub be rank 15 at least).
Hmmm I wonder if im messing something up? I have 3 ships running wsuc OJ at lvl 85+ and i keep getting garbage like rubies and saphires? Ive gotten some extravagent stuff etc....but today I literally only made 35k from all 3 of them. Do I just have bad rng?
This has been my experience as well. My best days were 622K and 376K but most are between 100K and 200K with a lot of useless gems This is sending out 4 subs every couple of days.
So, with WSUC++ at rank 89 going OJ.. it's normal for it to sometimes not bring back any salvaged stuff, right? The gil per day is an average collected over time, right?
Running Modified parts can get awfully expensive though (in terms of Repair Kits), so running WSUC builds on an OJ route should suffice for most filthy casuals who don't want to get too "greedy." For those of you who are new to this and are just starting out, welcome to Fight Club. 💕
I've been running the JORZ route and maintaining the subs (full modified) since July 2023. As long as you have a level 50 miner and/or botanist and at least one crafter at 50 with the recipe, you should be able to craft the repair kits. The Grade 6 Dark Matter can be bought with Grand Company Seals and the Dark Matter Clusters are farmed.
I had been slowly working on an FC I took over with the subs and airships and started doing subs/airships with some friends in their FC so I am handling two of them right now. I wish I saw this video way sooner so I could have saved some gil. I just wish that the three level 50 airships my other FC has was worth something.
There are some mats for housing items that ONLY come from airship ventures, so if you wanted to send one of those out to farm for those items it can be another way of making gil. It's just not as consistent as th subs, so a lot of ppl don't bother- which leaves those item perpetually in low supply
I've been slowly making my way (making my way ♫) leveling up my sub. I reached level 60 this week so I still have much to do. I have a second one but is like level 20 or something lame like that. I'll rewatch this once I hit level 85, I guess!
I think because I'm a completionist, I'm gonna focus on getting everything to 115, keep an airship to farm mats while the subs focus on XP and unlocking stuff. Once that's done, I'll farm JORZ
First rule of Fight Club...You don't talk about Fight Club! Second Rule of Fight Club... You don't talk about Fight Club! Also 4 Mill is generous if you are extremely lucky that week. On average, you are more likely to get around 2.5 mill a week.
Is there a limit for submarines per fc or can anyone start their own as long as you are in an fc? Would be important to know if there are 5 submarines per fc and officers/leaders are running them all the time for their own profit or if every player of an fc can start their own submarines and get their own profit... i am in a huge/maxed out fc and i got already notifications about submarines so i dont know if i could start my own submarines now or if they are taken by officers.
I totally don't have 3 subs at rank 100+ drifting through the final map while wondering "When does this start making money?" right now...not at all. Now if you'll excuse me I need to go take a long walk off a short cliff.
When you say "OJ", do you mean to literally farm node O and J over and over? Also, can I do this before level 85? I started sending out my sub (Only 3 of us in FC) and have reached rank 22. Can I start farming O and J now or no?
Yeah just send them out to O and J in a voyage over and over. You can send them earlier if you upgrade the ship a lot but you need certain stats to hit certain breakpoints to get the good drops. Its complicated. I boiled it down as much as possible for this video
@@knightx630Well firstly, you need the general 3 million gil, plus I believe upwards of 500k gil for the small and its housing permit unless you get the permit for cheaper on the MB. Wealth. And then if you're on a server with a lot of lottery entries for a house..? Luck. Anyone with basic intelligence would realize that.
@@MMDTrxsh3 mil between multiple people is easy mode. Getting an FC house in an FC ward is easy mode. 500k between 3 people is also easy mode. Mfers when the group centric system can’t be solo’d as easily as an unsynced sashtasha run: 😮
Any time you earn GC seals, you also get FC seals, so when I'm running low on my solo FC I just go unsync some dungeons and hand over the loot til I have enough FC seals to last me a while.
Im so glad i bothered with subs. Ive never made money because i barely pay attention but i have all 4 unlocked and at least 2 over lvl 85. I have sssc++ because at one point i tried but now at least my smooth brain has better directions.
As a fellow Admiral of a fleet that is now at 400+ Submarines, I am so happy I found your video. I often help people with their subs and I found your video to be a helpful starting point. I created my fleet solo with multiple accounts but it is very possible to do with motivated and reliable friends. If you ever need some info on optimizing builds for faster leveling (without breaking the bank!), just let me know! One thing I always tell people is, 'Retainers are the secret!', they are probably the most powerful tool you have when it comes to starting a fleet of Subs. The more characters you have with retainers, the better. I look forward to more of your videos!
I wouldn’t recommend this route at all. For daily players ++sssc running wreckage/dire will result in 22 hr runs, which will net you more gold per hour versus any other setup
I think this video is for people who have Free Companies or are interested in Free Companies. I'm not really interested. Then again, I cheat by buying story skips in the Mog Station, tossing the books and selling the 50 Allagan Platinum pieces over and over again.
A few tips: 1. When pointing to any page make sure to add its url on screen. If id didnt know mogship already I would have no idea what did you said mockship, logship? 2. If you title your video like the way you did without mentioning any fact about half year preparations, newbies who came here for fast gil will simply stop watching you for deceptive content. You will earn 1 view on video but clearly you wont get any subscriptions this way. 3. This guide is absolutely pointless when its based basically on spreadsheets info, yet you dont provide theirs url's. No one will come back rewatching video to find part with 1 spreadsheet showing optimal build at certain level etc.
With a little optimization, you can start earning faster. @ 75 - SSSC++ can do OJ (or 78 with S+S+S+C) - I have all 4 subs doing this in just under 4 months after FC founding. @ 90 - SSSY++ can do JORZ @ 95 - SCUS++ can do MROJZ - and this is my final build through to 110.
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“Make gil without interacting with the marketboard” = best sale point.
You're still going to have to interact with it if you ever want to sell the items your Subs bring back. Also, interacting with the MB is about ten thousand times easier and less frustrating than dealing with Sub routes, parts, and upkeep.
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TYSM for this guide. My small FC fell apart and basically left me with an upgraded sub I've never so much as looked at before, and this was a huge help in learning what to do with this "inheritance" 😂 All the information out there on reddit and discord is indeed overwhelming and this was super straight forward to understand for a complete beginner like myself.
Yeah I went through the same thing myself when I was learning 😅
I run the subs for my FC, I use that gil to fund events like raffles, costume contest prizes ect. It’s really nice to be able to have fun events planned and use the FC workshop to fund it.
Wanted to comment and say thanks for this video. I watched it the day it came out and started working on subs immediately. Yesterday marked the first day that I had all 4 subs running OJ and they brought back 411k worth of salvage. So thank you for bringing this to my attention.
Thank you for making all of this information super clear and easy to understand. I was a little intimidated by submarines before but having all the extra info cut out is very helpful!
Not only did this help to clarify the overly convoluted explanations elsewhere...your radio voice made this nice to listen to!
I watched this video 3 months ago and my first sub is about to hit rank 85 with others at rank 81, 75 and 43. I wouldn't have had the motivation to get into this, so thanks!
So glad to hear it! I've been tracking my three subs and I'm now up to about 8,000,000 Gil a month with just the basic OJ setup
Thank you so much! I joined a discord and was so lost. This video helped clear up a lot of confusion I had around subs.
I watched this when I had two subs over 101 last year, they are now 115 and the other two are 95. I just made my first set of modified parts and got insanely lucky to the point I have 3/4 the mats I'd need for another set of parts and upgrades.
My hope is to have all four upgraded by the time Dawntrail releases. I just wish for someone who has trouble with the acronym stuff, that people would write things out fully for builds. Its *hell* for people with dyslexia to follow most of these community guides.
This is a hole you don't want to dig in without thinking about it.
Easiest way to get it done:
-Create alt Guild
-Level up for some months in all shark Parts
-On level 85 Start OJ
That's it, your done, if your just running a single or two FCs it's imo not worth putting money into modded parts. You see, modded parts are worth millions of Gil, but a full FC of modded parts only makes 8mill Gil more per YEAR. MB price for modded full is like 12 mill per ship
Once you are done with one guild you can start creating new FCs which needs a second account in the creation process (because of only 1 guildhouse per account on a server while bidding), nice If you need chocobo feathers
After many months you will end up sending out retainers for dark matter and several characters, are forced to do daily checks on subs on different characters just to get Gil, which you will totally not use or need! This is a Gil easy game
If it's a fun activity for you it's an amazing time filler tho
Another tip: create a linkshell for all your Alts so jumping guilds is as easy as opening linkshell to aplly to the FC from there
oj still with shark parts?
@@tolgadeniz5615 WSUC
Oj still with shark parts sir ?
@@duramajin3118 WSUC lvl 85 OJ 24h redeploy
So I've been spearheading the Submersible project solo for my own FC, and I will say that you can technically start the gil making process at rank 75 with fully modified sub parts running the JORZ course. The subs at rank 75 and fully modified with the recommended parts will only be able to go to JO until rank 82 (or 84, I forget which one) and then they can hit JOR for a 36 hour cycle. At some point, you'll be able to do the full JORZ rotation, but I only recommend doing this if you want to start making gil as swiftly as possible, even if it slows the leveling process down, preventing you from hitting those higher thresholds faster.
My submersibles are all between 76-85, and I'm still pulling a couple million or so while they level throughout the week / week and a half time frame, and starting that process as fast as I could helped facilitate me paying for materials for the latter crafted submersibles.
This is super helpful, as I am just cresting the Rank 50 mark myself (4th sub built today). Great info/heads up in this post, thanks! My ENTIRE goal is to make back the 4.8 mil i spent on house and lot and workshop and mats, plus another 20mil to move to transfer to a Med House (where ill stay perma) and another 20mil for my own pockets. Im in for the long haul, but super excited to start seeing some gil trickle in and was curious if i'd have to wait till rank 100 or if it could come sooner. Many thanks!
@@ventusvero4484 I had similar goals, which is why I wanted to start the Gil making process more than I wanted to level. Still happy with my decision to do it this way, so I’m glad to be of help!
Your video came across my recommendations and I found it super informative. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Omg I laughed so hard at the beginning when you showed those discord slides.
No offense to the discord as i am sure this was hard work to figure out and it is very much appreciated they have all those information. But. As someone that just inherited submarines i feel so overwhelemed by everything there is.
So thanks a lot for this guide!!!
Huh. I just checked and my FC has four 81-90 subs right now. I took over my FC a year ago because everyone else got burnt out. I've maintained control of it, but with only 6 people logging in within the last year, I didn't really do much besides logging in biweekly to keep our FC house and my leadership. I can't believe I've been sleeping on this lucrative Gil-making machine!!
Started following this guide like four months ago. Subs will be home in the morning and i can finally outfit them in WSUC! Awesome guide, sir! I'll be back in a FREAKIN YEAR to commend you again when i hit 101 and upgrade to the next stage! lmao.
I can add my own 2 gil on this as the person who mans the subs for my FC. Bubs is correct on pacing yourself. You are right to get hyped about the money, which is awesome, but for most people who started today they'd barely start recouping their investment by Christmas. It's a slow process and you just have to get into a rhythm with it. Also, get ready to grind those repair kits. XD
I want to unlock everything but isnt it weird which areas will unlock via specific nodes
It really boils down to; if you are alright with losing a lot of gil to start a project that you may not see profit on in potentially a year, okay with potentially ditching your FC if and when someone tries to muscle in and cash out on your hard work having done nothing (really only a problem if it's a sizeable FC though; a friend group FC would understand to respect the boundary on something like that), and having a side project that effectively requires itself to always be on your mind to reap the full benefits of it.
I ditched my FC for a chance at a house on Dynamis (a decision that was questionable to begin with, but I had planned on moving to Dynamis regardless), got an FC medium for myself, ran myself down 56 million with the cost of the house and subs, and only paid off the house 6 months later. It's a long grind, but worth it with how fairly low maintenance and effort it is when you get it all running. And I wouldn't have someone over my shoulder trying to guilt trip me into donating up to a few million for each Free Company event that I wouldn't have ever participated in.
I've been playing FFXIV for 6 years now... have multiple FC's on a few different servers with my spouse and friends... I'm super casual and love casual crafting/gil making... for some reason (unknown to me) I've never jumped into this part of the game. Thank you so much for such a great explanation! I'm excited to get going.
Watched this video several months ago. My first run of four Level 85 WSUCs just came back an hour ago, with over 400k gil in salvage in tow. My FC friends are gonna be loaded when Dawntrail hits.
Thank you so much dude ❤️ this video saved me from being poor!
A couple of months ago I watched your video and did everything you said.
Now I have 4 subs farming gil with OJ!
I did all the parts for subs and everything without buying anything from the market board, gather all the mats and everything alone 🔥 so it can be done by 1 person a 100%
(For people wondering, just use crafting websites to track your mats and timed nodes and it makes the crafting extremelly simple, you can gatherer and craft everything ahead of time)
Only reason I made my own FC was for the airships but I learned submarines were better I tried learning it and got confused, your video was very helpful and you clarified some things I've read in written guides that I didn't understand, thank you
Step one; Own a house.
Impossible
@@pubaguh3199 small FC houses are stupidly abundant on most servers
@@micahharrell3145 there lies the impossible part, most people aren't willing to settle for less than a medium for some reason.
@@TheGhostFarti dont understand why, my first 2 houses were smalls and i genuinely like the look of them and feel like they are more cozy and easy to decorate in general. I still prefer having a large though due to more space and having 3 gardens for onion farming.
@TheGhostFart that is why it's easy .you already know small houses are in abundance
Will you do an update for DT btw? (in case anything's changed) Just out of curiosity, since this was one of the most comprehensive guides I've found.
Have to say, I'm glad I've kinda inherited my FC subs (FC leader is on hiatus, most likely until shortly before 7.0 comes out), so it's mainly working to get them upgraded to reach the current money makers. Just doing the research now to understand before I mess with the current routes that he was using
Enjoy it! My first sub just came back from OJ with 350,000 Gil!
Sources:
- PolarThief Spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aOhMH-XrWBIV93Veo3Wo0zz38z-tqk6QWO_4xzu5ZMg/
- FFXIV Submarine Discord: discord.gg/GAVegXNtwK
- Mogship: www.mogship.com/
I seriously love you. Also, your choice for background music? Very cool.
THANK YOU! I have been trying to find information on how subs work but I have not been able to understand any of the information I've come across. This video was HUGE help. You're getting a sub for this sub video.
Thank you so much for this video. Well explained and right to the point. Cheers.
This video was good for business, I sold all my hulls, thanks!
3 things you may have overloockt
> You do not need SSUC++ to farm OJ, running just WSUC unmodefied is all you realy need to do, only real difrence is how much time you have to redeploy in the 24h window ~30 min the loot is the same, also fully modefide subs need more Repair matirials per repair, so its cheeper to run unmodefied subs as well, you only realy go ++ if you aiming to run 48h subs, what you only realy do if you have more than one fc running subs
> its a good idee to swap out for - - U - at level 15 given that you need it for lvl 85 annyway, it gives you more range, waht gives you more notes to dive to, and i personly like to get - - - W as well so the redeploy ends up somewaht near to 48 houers
> your FC Needs to be rank 6 for buying a plot. the by far easyest way to level an fc is to do Expert Deliveris with your grand company
67 Facet Rings is all you need thy are quite cheep to craft as well but im personely looking in to EW gear now for crafting, if its worth swiching over to that as turnin
Subbed. You are my favorite now. Thank you for the very informative video.
Thanks for the kind words. Glad it helped!
@Bubbins of course my friend. I have been playing since the release of 2.0. I am mad I slept on the subs! Lol
def helped me, thanks again.
Started 05/11/24, currently 8/15/24. I have been mostly soloing this while gathering and crafting the majority that I can. Currently have all 4 subs, have unlocked the first and second map, and my subs are: 75, 74, 74, and 65. May end up at 84 sometime next month. Really appreciate this video!
Thank you. Because of this video I have a reason for the subs. Before it was a novelty thing to get items without having to pay for them. Having all 4 subs going and, 2 in the late 60s, this plan is so doable and so easy. THANK YOU!!! THIS MADE IT ALL MASE SENCE!!!
first of all: your guide is really extremely helpful!
I just have one question: what is the best thing to do with old, no longer used ship parts? I saw that you can exchange them for a "box", but I can't find an explanation ANYWHERE about what this is good for and how you could use it for whatever...
You take them to the NPC named "Material Supplier"- there's one in every housing district, and they have a menu option called "Submersible Frames" Then you trade that part for a frame of the same name (which conveniently stacks, so if you;'re making a lot of submersibles all at once it can help save on inventory space).
As for what to do with the frames when you have them, once you unlock the Submersible VI set of schematics from the schematic board, the very first item needed for a Modified submersible part is that type of frame (so if you're making a Modified Shark-class Pressure Hull, you needed to turn in a normal Shark-class Pressure Hull for a Shark-class pressure Hull Frame).
I never ever thought about going back to earlier places to make gil. I just kept maxing up my subs to try to get the Orch rolls asap.
This is the video I needed. Something to explain how I could make passive income without interacting with the market board using a system I already have access to.
Ha this is some nice timing. Been meaning to look up those Sectors again. Once tried that Method to see how it goes but then forgot the Sectors after going back to unlocking the new ones
Thanks for the wonderful video, Bubbins!
Have all the materials for my first sub made and now all I gotta do is win an auction. LOL TY for making this comprehensible to someone like me.
I have my own FC with a 4 sub fleet doing this exact method and I wouldn't be mad if they nerfed this. I'm surprised they haven't - especially with the amount of shell FCs you see.
It's not *too* easy - it's a lot of work to get it set up and running and takes a while before you see a ROI - but it's a feature that shouldn't be locked behind FC housing imo.
With the heavy time investment required, I doubt they'll nerf this like they did leves. Shadowbringer's Coffee Biscuit was more of a Gil nightmare.
Since that was low effort, triple turn in, for double gil each, on (3) HQ craft per Leve used. Which you could max 100 atleast twice a month. Yes you had to make 900 Coffee Biscuits, but Gil ROI was broken.
@@Icy.Jalapeno You're right, the fact that it's heavy time investment and locked behind something quite limited means it won't spiral like the leve situation did. Everyone did the leves (although Dwarven Mythril was better than Coffee Biscuits for ROI).
The subs and this method have been around for ages as well, so the fact it hasn't been nerfed after so long may mean you can be optimistic about the future of your fleet. However, seeing a certain streamer/TH-camr with over 100 FCs/fleets make over a billion a month with this method... you have to admit once it's all set up for farming that zone, submarines are nuts and all they have to do to nerf it is reduce the value of the salvaged pieces.
So they nerfed all the gems that you get from salvaged farming in 5.4? I think. And in return they upped how much salvaged acc were worth so it evened out. I don’t think they plan on changing it again from there.
First rule of fight club..
Omg. Handsome voice with a handsome bun instead of a catgirl for once. I subscribed so fast, LOL
Good video!
This video's a year old, how have the sub income rates changed since? do you plan on making a new video with the updated numbers? I just started leveling my subs I have only unlocked 2 so far haha been doing it by myself so my Gil has suffered quite a bit but im being patient. Also how far can you push the shark class sub now? I have 2 being used and 2 more I already crafted in storage for when I unlock them. last question is what do you do with the old parts after you can't use them anymore?
Thanks for video!
What does the rank mean on the individual parts of the submarine when you craft them? Does that go up the more you send it out? Not the overall rank of the sub, but the individual pieces you craft and can have in your inventory. Thank you!
It means the Sub needs to be that Rank in order to equip that part. For example, a brand new Sub at rank 1 can ONLY equip Shark parts. Once the sub has ranked up to 15, you can use Shark (requires the sub be rank 1 at least) or Unkiu (requires the sub be rank 15 at least).
So what about the submarine prototypes? Do i have to get all of them? I crafted the first proto and equipped it with 4 shark-class parts.
Somebody forgot the first rule of Fight Club.
Hmmm I wonder if im messing something up? I have 3 ships running wsuc OJ at lvl 85+ and i keep getting garbage like rubies and saphires? Ive gotten some extravagent stuff etc....but today I literally only made 35k from all 3 of them. Do I just have bad rng?
This has been my experience as well. My best days were 622K and 376K but most are between 100K and 200K with a lot of useless gems This is sending out 4 subs every couple of days.
ik this is sooo late but when you finalize the reports are you taking the rewards and so others won’t be able to get it too or is it shared ?
It goes only to the person finalizing
So, with WSUC++ at rank 89 going OJ.. it's normal for it to sometimes not bring back any salvaged stuff, right? The gil per day is an average collected over time, right?
Yes, I've had days with 800,000 and I've had days with only 40,000 between all four ships.
Is it worth the effort to unlock all the nodes? I'm about to hit 85 on my first sub and just wondered about finishing the 3rd map and the last 2 maps.
Not particularly, at least if you're only interested in earning money.
I'm gonna test this out with the two subs I have maxed out now. If it works, hooray, since I always like getting more money. :D
this person's voice could cure cancer im sure of it
OMFG Please make video guides on this. This has been confusing all to hell. I'll sweeten the request for you. "Likes and Subscribes"
Running Modified parts can get awfully expensive though (in terms of Repair Kits), so running WSUC builds on an OJ route should suffice for most filthy casuals who don't want to get too "greedy."
For those of you who are new to this and are just starting out, welcome to Fight Club. 💕
I've been running the JORZ route and maintaining the subs (full modified) since July 2023. As long as you have a level 50 miner and/or botanist and at least one crafter at 50 with the recipe, you should be able to craft the repair kits. The Grade 6 Dark Matter can be bought with Grand Company Seals and the Dark Matter Clusters are farmed.
you can just buy grade 6 dark matter with gil from a junkmonger lmao its way more effective than spending grand company seals@@tsubasashi
@tsubasashi the expense is in how much more repair kits you'll need, not in the crafting of repair kits
Would SSSC++ be better then the SSUC++? Seems like the 25 retrieval might be more beneficial.
No cuz ur break point is 195.
Is WSUC still the cheapest build you can run OJ at level 85 or has that changed with patches?
Still the cheapest!
I had been slowly working on an FC I took over with the subs and airships and started doing subs/airships with some friends in their FC so I am handling two of them right now. I wish I saw this video way sooner so I could have saved some gil.
I just wish that the three level 50 airships my other FC has was worth something.
There are some mats for housing items that ONLY come from airship ventures, so if you wanted to send one of those out to farm for those items it can be another way of making gil. It's just not as consistent as th subs, so a lot of ppl don't bother- which leaves those item perpetually in low supply
Thanks :)
I've been slowly making my way (making my way ♫) leveling up my sub. I reached level 60 this week so I still have much to do. I have a second one but is like level 20 or something lame like that. I'll rewatch this once I hit level 85, I guess!
I think because I'm a completionist, I'm gonna focus on getting everything to 115, keep an airship to farm mats while the subs focus on XP and unlocking stuff.
Once that's done, I'll farm JORZ
And craft WSUC parts for gil LUL
First rule of Fight Club...You don't talk about Fight Club!
Second Rule of Fight Club... You don't talk about Fight Club!
Also 4 Mill is generous if you are extremely lucky that week. On average, you are more likely to get around 2.5 mill a week.
Is there a limit for submarines per fc or can anyone start their own as long as you are in an fc? Would be important to know if there are 5 submarines per fc and officers/leaders are running them all the time for their own profit or if every player of an fc can start their own submarines and get their own profit... i am in a huge/maxed out fc and i got already notifications about submarines so i dont know if i could start my own submarines now or if they are taken by officers.
Four subs per FC. The FC itself owns them not players.
OMG, Ive been sitting on Gil!
It's 2024. Everyone knows about the super duper extra super secret Fight Club. It's gonna be ok.
I totally don't have 3 subs at rank 100+ drifting through the final map while wondering "When does this start making money?" right now...not at all.
Now if you'll excuse me I need to go take a long walk off a short cliff.
When you say "OJ", do you mean to literally farm node O and J over and over? Also, can I do this before level 85? I started sending out my sub (Only 3 of us in FC) and have reached rank 22. Can I start farming O and J now or no?
Yeah just send them out to O and J in a voyage over and over. You can send them earlier if you upgrade the ship a lot but you need certain stats to hit certain breakpoints to get the good drops. Its complicated. I boiled it down as much as possible for this video
The fact this is locked behind owning a house is so bull on the high population servers
Somebody just broke the first and second rule
can i do this all on my own from scratch? i own a small inactive fc and got a small fc house.
Yep! I did it with just two people
I wish the subs and airships weren't an FC thing. I'm just not active enough to be able to participate in my FC's duties.
"so it's 60 shark parts to begin with, 12 at rank 85 because we keep that 1 shark part" what?
16 shark parts to begin with! 4*4
He skipped the part where you also need to be lucky and wealthy enough to get at least a small plot and house for the FC. 💀
That's not wealthy or lucky. It's having the knowledge or even basic intelligence
@@knightx630Well firstly, you need the general 3 million gil, plus I believe upwards of 500k gil for the small and its housing permit unless you get the permit for cheaper on the MB. Wealth. And then if you're on a server with a lot of lottery entries for a house..? Luck. Anyone with basic intelligence would realize that.
@MMDTrxsh I have somewhere around 450 million and it took very little brain
@@MMDTrxsh it takes very little brain to move off a congested world as well. It's not luck
@@MMDTrxsh3 mil between multiple people is easy mode.
Getting an FC house in an FC ward is easy mode.
500k between 3 people is also easy mode.
Mfers when the group centric system can’t be solo’d as easily as an unsynced sashtasha run: 😮
Shark one or Shark two?
>have friends
Welp that's it for me, RIP.
Well, since you talked about the fight club, time to sell a bunch of overpriced cryptomeria & pure titanium ore
If you are doing this solo, how do I earn gain the Ceruleum tanks for the voyages?
Honestly you can throw up a party finder ad for ceruleum tanks
Ah thank you :D @@Drex2580
You buy them with fc credits from the vendor inside the craftshop
Any time you earn GC seals, you also get FC seals, so when I'm running low on my solo FC I just go unsync some dungeons and hand over the loot til I have enough FC seals to last me a while.
Im so glad i bothered with subs. Ive never made money because i barely pay attention but i have all 4 unlocked and at least 2 over lvl 85. I have sssc++ because at one point i tried but now at least my smooth brain has better directions.
As a fellow Admiral of a fleet that is now at 400+ Submarines, I am so happy I found your video. I often help people with their subs and I found your video to be a helpful starting point. I created my fleet solo with multiple accounts but it is very possible to do with motivated and reliable friends. If you ever need some info on optimizing builds for faster leveling (without breaking the bank!), just let me know!
One thing I always tell people is, 'Retainers are the secret!', they are probably the most powerful tool you have when it comes to starting a fleet of Subs. The more characters you have with retainers, the better.
I look forward to more of your videos!
Do you just use your retainers for dark matter or what?
Ah yes, How to make money: Step 1. Have money.
want easist way to make gil? become a XIV venue DJ or work in venues..... just have fun rping and make 20m a week xD
Yeah but that requires talking to people 🤣
Well shoot... I thought you could upgrade to some ++ and start farming at around sub rank 50... bummer its quite a bit higher than that...
what house size do i need for this ?
Any size as long as it's an FC house
Don’t TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB
18 FCs, 72 shark parts and one year of sending submarines out and I just made my first 36K lol 😂😂😂😂
wish i could do this but the two fcs i was in both broke promises to me about me having the ships/subs lol
I wouldn’t recommend this route at all. For daily players ++sssc running wreckage/dire will result in 22 hr runs, which will net you more gold per hour versus any other setup
I'm using this build as well and it turns out good so far
looks at na non destroyed market damn things so cheap mean while eu way more expensive on submarine parts xD
You're not suppose to make any videos on this. THE FIGHT CLUB DOES NOT APPROVE.
every 30 minutes you can make 2m from 10 minutes of fishing but hey 4m a week is better right?
Tell me your ways
I think this video is for people who have Free Companies or are interested in Free Companies. I'm not really interested. Then again, I cheat by buying story skips in the Mog Station, tossing the books and selling the 50 Allagan Platinum pieces over and over again.
Or get yourself a well suited FC at rank 30 with millions of company credits and a full unlocked workshop .. ;)
people having shell fcs are the reason the housing districts are scuffed and taken over by literal bots, you should not be promoting that
A few tips:
1. When pointing to any page make sure to add its url on screen. If id didnt know mogship already I would have no idea what did you said mockship, logship?
2. If you title your video like the way you did without mentioning any fact about half year preparations, newbies who came here for fast gil will simply stop watching you for deceptive content. You will earn 1 view on video but clearly you wont get any subscriptions this way.
3. This guide is absolutely pointless when its based basically on spreadsheets info, yet you dont provide theirs url's. No one will come back rewatching video to find part with 1 spreadsheet showing optimal build at certain level etc.
To be fair of anyone believes they can earn up (X) Millions of Gil without some kind of investment, plus not using the market board is a fool.
@@Icy.Jalapeno some investement and half year time preparation is totally different thing XD
@@Icy.Jalapeno also there are ways to earn million+ a day without any investement and only require a day or 2 of preparations, with no mb involved
Cool info but not new and Ashe10 made a video about it all over a year ago ...
With a little optimization, you can start earning faster.
@ 75 - SSSC++ can do OJ (or 78 with S+S+S+C) - I have all 4 subs doing this in just under 4 months after FC founding.
@ 90 - SSSY++ can do JORZ
@ 95 - SCUS++ can do MROJZ - and this is my final build through to 110.
Your better off Sticking with sssc forever if you play everyday. The Gil per hour is the highest with sssc running wreckage/dire
@@BlessedBeJESUSCHRIST I have multiple FCs, so the 48hr builds are more convenient.
Hey guys, Just wondering, do i Need to level up the fc to have a submarine running?
What other optimisation do I need outside the shark parts @ 75? PLS sir
there was a reason for this to be called fightclub >.>
Thing is that the time sink alone will keep too many people from attempting this. Not to mention the hurdle of getting an FC and a house.
Me being a sprout that just got to Hw- SUBMARINES?!