A Trick for writing Orchestral Music like the Pros
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 เม.ย. 2022
- Let's talk about something that's necessary to write Orchestral Music like the Pros: layering.
Be it layering different instruments, different articulations or even different libraries together, this is a fundamental skill to understand in order to achieve the full sound you often hear in Triple-A Games & Film scores from people like Hans Zimmer, Ramin Djawadi & more.
In this example we'll talk about it from the perspective of a certain brass section in my latest original composition.
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🎻 LIBRARIES & SOFTWARE:
- Strings: Metropolis Ark 1, Metropolis Ark 3, Cinematic Strings 2, Fluid Shorts, Jaeger
- Brass: Metropolis Ark 1, Metropolis Ark 3, Century Brass, Jaeger
- Percussion: Damage, Rhapsody Orchestral Percussion
- Choir: Metropolis Ark 1, Oceania
- Piano: The Giant
- Solo Vocals: Jaeger, Vocalisa
- Guitars: Guitar Rig
- Trailer SFX: Juggernaut, Cinematic Trailers Designed, Scenes From The Multiverse Vol.1, Shredders, AVA Instinct
- Mixing & Mastering: iZotope Ozone, ValhallaRoom, ValhallaShimmer, FL Studio Plugins
- DAW: FL Studio 20
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I realized I never made a tutorial about Orchestral Layering before, so thought of making a quick one based on a Brass example from my latest original track.
"Granular" videos like this one aren't easy to make because I know they will be less exciting than those videos where I show 999 things in 5 minutes, but hey, sometimes the best knowledge ain't too fun to learn. :P
Speaking of which, if you're interested in signing to the Composer Accelerator Program, you should know it's accepting 300 people max and I expect it may sell out soon!
You can check it out here: evenant.io/composer-accelerator/uv6tGj
am very appreciative of videos like this so, thank you!
Thank you for being so generous with your time to share your insights.
Alex, grazie.
Per ogni "piccolo" insegnamento riguardante la composizione di musica orchestrale (e non solo) ma soprattutto perché a me personalmente hai dato la speranza di riuscire a lavorare con la musica anche se si compone a orecchio.
In 15 anni che compongo non mi sono mai sentito adatto perché non ho le conoscenze teoriche adatte a qualcuno che vuole definirsi compositore. Mi sono reso conto che il mio pensiero era errato in quanto tali conoscenze le stavo già imparando nel corso del tempo ma non accettavo di averle fatte mie e quindi di poter ricominciare a comporre e integrare nel mio lavoro anche la mia musica. Grazie.
Hey Alex man, loving your videos.
I have a very basic question that I can't seem to find an answer to anywhere because it seems almost too easy for anyone to bother answering... but what would the POINT of Kontakt be, if you have say, Cubase or FL like yourself... some people seem to use Kontakt to go between the DAW and the samples themselves. Just wondering why?
Sorry for the noob question haha, cheers mate, love your work!
Absolutely great video with already so many information - thanks a lot!! And I'd so much love to learn more about it - due to the fact orchestral and cinematic music is unfortunately more the hobby kind of music making part of my day, I can not dive to deep..... yet!!
I like all versions of Alex but Alex The Teacher is my favourite.
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Alex the lion is also good.
For a while now I've been thinking about composing orchestral/cinematic music. This definitely gives me motivation, I love this man's energy
I urge you to! I started from scratch without any knowledge on music theory, and am still only learning, but boy oh boy it is fun to create orchestral music even in beginner level!
@@Risuaita5886 orchestral was where I started and I don’t think anything else has quite inspired me as much. Unlike other genres It requires you to really utilize notes and chords at the most foundational level, rather than getting away with loops/samples/synths that easily give more texture and layering all on their own.
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The layering trick is (imo) the most important tip I've recently learned to create that specific power and flow you're looking for in a specific mix. It's hard to get specific orchestral samples to sound full and rich or emotional and intimate and layering really helps realize that sound you're trying to envision. Wonderful tutorial Alex!
No bs straight onto the tutorial and details. Simply perfect ❤
Layering is a big part of Fugue in Baroque music too. When combining voicing, counterpoint harmonies, call and response melodies, with creative layering the possibilities can be absolutely spellbinding!
dawg said it provides warmth, that shit gave me chills
It's insane how much information I got from this quick fire tutorial. Just goes to show that you only need a good teacher, no matter the subject 💪👏
Composers hate him! This 1 weird trick will make you better than Hans Zimmer!
You will be famous tomorrow if you know this one trick!
The SECRET trick pros DON’T want you to know!
Better then Zimmer. lolz
😂😂😂
layering is nice but it's also important to consider masking and coherence when arranging. Don Juan by Strauss has this unison 16th note run that sounds horrible and muddled in the full arrangement bc there are so many instruments occupying the same frequency space, not to mention the slight time deviations between 60 players that are often more than 30ft apart. If it cannot even be heard in the mixdown, it's just senseless noise distracting from the rest of the piece. Even purposeful noise should occupy it's own frequency space.
I love your passion for music, I can feel the joy it brings you to make this kind of music.
Thank you my brother for the great tips glad to have you around to give us certain tricks and secrets, and layering is definitely one of them going to the roast and learning it the right way appreciate you man keep up the great work👍🏿🙏🏿
I cannot imagine how do you mix them so well even there are so much stuff! Such great work!
Thanks for the video and all the information.Tour music and enthusiasm are infectious. Keep it coming
Learned to orchestrate music from this guys videos alone and still learn more tools every time he puts a video out! Thanks Alex, keep turning out the bangers!
I really liked the Power RAngers example !! YOu are awesome! Definitely the most epic tutorials for epic music +more! i have learned a lot from that channel! Keep up the good work... Take care!
How long have I been yearning for new vids! Thank you man
I love how u make this tutorials so fast and quick u get to the point so fast and tell what to do
Without much talking around
I love that
Missed your videos! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge
Your creativity and enthusiasm are inspirational! I am so delighted to have found your channel. Emotions clearly drive your musical ideas and that is the essence of truly great music. Your music engages the listener's feelings and emotions. Thanks for sharing your gift with us. (and your jacket is dope as well:)
Lovely stuff man! Epic sounding for sure!
That was extraordinarily beautiful.. your videos are really very informative!
your energy is so good ❤
ive been waiting for a new tutorial forever finally 🤩
Amazing bro - beautiful tips
i really respect hybrid music creators.they have a lot of work to give us best sound to feel
This is so helpful Alex, I learnt so much . Honestly top notch 👌
THANK YOU for listing all your libraries and software! So helpful! I might sign up for a lesson from you
I was listening to your podcast with AZODi and got the notification for this. Thank you for your tutorials Alex
Always appreciated Alex!
Amazing tutorial.... Thanks Alex
freaking love it, thanks for this brother
I’m a little late to the party finding your channel but man it has become one of my absolute favorite TH-cam channels out there. Appreciate all the work you put into your music and the energy you bring in your videos. Thanks for taking the time to break it down. Your compositions are really epic!
I always learn something new from You Alex. Cool tutorial, thanks
just watched your full ads .. cool asf, glad u made it this far.!!!
This was great! Thanks for these tips!
Great! Now you are basically forcing me to create several email accounts allowing me to make as many TH-cam accounts so that I can like this video 200 times. At least. Thank you!
Thank you, Alex. Outstanding.
That track is very uplifting as well. Keep up the good work 🙏🏼💯💯💯💯💯!
That was one of my quickest subscribes... awesome!
I like the way this man talks! It's like "yeah man! let me convince you" - awesome! :D I am totally hyped now!
Keep on with the videos, we learn a lot from you!
I love how your projects are super elaborated and I love the effects, I'm actually not very convinced of what I'm doing but I'm determined to progress and I'm working on a battle theme of one of my character and I'm gonna change it everytime I notice that it's not good (for now I'm just remaking some of the musics that exist already without posting it to see if I notice all of the "layers" and if it sound almost the same I wooud be happy 🤡
You are really good, Alex, I become better and better with your tutorials!
Dude this is absolutely insane!!! 🤯
Awesome! Thanks for sharing 🙏🏻
It's so helpful, thank you!
Brilliant! Thanks for sharing!
Nice breakdown of the crescendo.
This might very well be the best music tutorial I've ever watched
Amazing my brother! Damn this sounds powerful.
his teaching is most amazing!
Thank you for helping people like me learn.
Great explanation! Thank you!
Love this Alex, thanks for bringing something new
1 year late xd
Thanx. Without your lessons I'd be lost.
thats brilliant! thanks for your help!
Great video! I've been wondering how layering is done in orchestral music. All these extra layers require a lot of processing though. So far I haven't seen you do any processing in your videos. Is this something you'd consider showing in future videos? I'd be very interested in seeing your EQ, compression, saturation and stereo separation processes!
It been a while happy to see your tutorial video
Miss you Alex can't wait for your next video
Man You are super teacher. Pro sounds! Thanks!
Great breakdown ✅🔥🙏
I don't think I've ever seen a video with so much information in such a short time on TH-cam
we've been waiting for new tutorials for almost a year now... come back to this channel :)
I am used on composing 2000 videogame type tracks, Orchestral is a new genre i'd like to learn, thanks for this tutorial
It doesn’t have to be frequently, he uploaded so we blessed
Thank you so much!! Great video. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
thanks a lot，I love your tutorials！
well done for this video.. helpful..fast.. well explained .. to the point..super thanks
Hey Alex!
I have a great video idea!
It would be cool if you would pick some of the most famous composers and show us the plugins they use and if they have a hidden method
Nice! I will try using more layering and some orchestral sounds.
yeaaaaaah... it just sunk in that I'm really not a Musician... you guys are really blessed, I can't even imagine doing anything this epic. I'm humbled
thank you, very good video help me a lot in my current project, 👍
oh my god this is instantly my favourite You Tube channel!!!
Nice video, great track!
very helpful - thank you!
bruh, super legit. I just started getting into fl, love your stuff
The maestro is in the house💥✨✨✨👌 thanks a lot buddy👍💫
Love the jacket!!
This is just brutal!!
Love it man, couldn't avoid thinking of Shrek when you were talking of onions having ears. Awesome!
Great video man.
Wow!! Thank´s 4 this!! for brazil!
Excellent!
Love how u put Hans Zimmer on the thumbnail. Ma man
Great tips 👍
Great stuff!
Wow learning a lot 🙏🙏
This was awesome man. Such good advice. New subscriber ✌🏻
Watching again, so funny as well man hahah!
Wow what a cool track
Great tutorials.
I can feel it alex
You are amazing Alex!!!🔥💙
5:32 😂😂
You are very good sir!
wow so energetic! love it
Love this
I like passionate and subjective discussions about music. I subscribe to your channel.
You back 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I love how this sounds! It feels a bit like a big section in a drum corps show. With that in mind, I had a thought about the percussion. There is swell in the brass followed by a brief pause, and then a large hit. If you could add the sound of a rim shot from a line of marching snares on the 3rd beat (the beginning of the brief rest), it would create unparalleled tension, and make that orchestral hit even more pronounced!
hey, hope you will continue making videos!