Compose Thrilling Orchestral Runs
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A small note from an actual instrumentalist: choose the scales based on how we actually play and learn our fundamentals and not by whether it’s symmetrical on a keyboard. ‘Octatonic scale’ is a diminished scale and we do work on those but for gawdsake, unless it’s strictly necessary harmonically, use chromatic or the basic diatonic scale the piece is in. It does not enrich my life to have to flare my tendinitis over a twee scale decided by computer and not by understanding of how instrumentalists function. We are humans not robots. Make fast things predictable because most of the time we have one rehearsal at best to nail these things. I will add that the orchestration suggestions here are spot on. Thank you for listening to my TEDTalk!
I was thinking the same thing. Octatonics are much easier on strings (w open strings helping) but these runs of symmetrical half-whole at this tempo is hard on keyed wind instruments.
Hey hey... We compose, you play. Shuuuuush. The true goal is nothing more than to make your fingers cry.
@@Musicisair715 It does seem that way a lot of the time!
So, basically you learned a hard to play instrument and complain about it.
@@gkgyver Dude. It’s not hard to play per se, but all instruments require practice to get to a professional level. That being said, there are things that are idiomatic to each instrument in an orchestra and a professional composer will learn what these things are for each instrument. In my opinion they ought to go further than that and learn what it’s like to actually play in an orchestra and read music in this kind of ensemble. This is what made the greats great.
Modernly, John Williams knows how to make each instrument sound it’s best and his shit is HAAAARD but never, ever ridiculously out of idiom for the instruments.
THIS IS A BLOODY MASTERCLASS!!!
I've spent 2 hours on this video alone, pausing, trying, replaying. Thank you!
The descending runs are very reminiscent of what Carl Stalling did in Warner Brothers cartoon scores. It gave me pause to smile at how this technique evokes the speed of a chase. Great video! Thanks!!
Carl Stalling? Wow. Did you know him, Jim? When I was a kid (6yrs) I took violin lessons with his wife. I think her name was Gladys?
@@rmhmusic3621... no I didn't, but I heard a lot of his compositions daily and also got CD 'The Carl Stalling Project' as well as the second one... just like watching the cartoons. It shows you just HOW IMPORTANT the music track was in the early WB cartoons!!
or the interminably annoying employment of the same by "composers" like danny elfman
absolutely love the orchestration in every one of these examples, great job
Man this video is brilliant. THanks a ton Zach!
Great stuff, and the overall presentation was so good as well! Straight to the point, but with enough detail to get a lot of value out of this video
Awesome video. As someone who is still learning the subtle nuances of orchestral scoring this was an awesome learning experience.
This is a brilliant insight Zach, these sound so good. Thank you.
Your stuff is GOLD Zach. Thank you soooo much for this lesson!
Stuff like this are so valuable. It can bring so much energy to your piece and also function as a link between modes or keys or sections. Great work!
Dude thank you so much this is exactly what I've been needing to make fuller sounding cinematic scores
Your content is so good, Zach! Thanks for sharing these techniques.
This is really great, Zach!
One of the most precise videos about runs. Thank you for this!
Love this, thank you for sharing!
Brilliantly! Every new lesson inspires me!
I've always wanted to learn to do runs like this. I've always just used patches in my VSTS, but this video was really helpful in explaining how to actually DO them. You did a great job explaining and I can't wait to go and try it myself.
Super helpful to have it broken out like this! I absolutely love that last example. It took me right back to watching the old Warner Bros cartoons as a kid.
One thing that many of your viewers may not be aware of is that you can’t just write octatonic for harp willy-nilly. They’re limited to seven pitch classes per octave. You can write it for two harps, omit one of the notes, or live with a virtual harp sound.
Loved that video!! Very helpful thank you!
Amazing tutorial! Thanks so much for creating this.
I had the sparkle, chord, and melody but I needed some woodwind flourish and had no idea where to start, this helps so much!
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing!
Very nice examples. Thanks Zach !
One of the best orchestration videos I’ve ever watched
Great tutorial as always! Thank you for this great tutorial! 👍
The first example with the run going downwards, I had to listen to that 100 times. It was beautifully done.
This is insanely good! Thanks so much! Instant sub!
Thank you for your knowledge Zach
truly awesome clip. Thanks!
This video was really helpful. Thank you for creating it. This will help me improve my abilities.
Never been able to do runs but this has helped so much, Thankyou!!!
Great video! I have a bachelor's in composition and I wish the professors at my university were this clear and succinct.
Thank you Zach your videos are really helpful.
The video I needed to see. Love the presentation. :D
Interesting stuff, ZACH. Thank you!
Fantastic content. Pure practical stuff, no rambling. Thank you!
That's amazing, thanks!
Thanks Zach for the video. I was actually working on orchestral runs with my teacher when I found your video. Great examples!
Great tips here, thanks for the video!
Thanks, Zach! Super helpful.
Very interesting and very helpful. Thanks!
This is brilliant!
This is really helpful. Thanks!
Good work loved the runs and the composition
You‘re golden Zach!
This is a PHENOMENAL tutorial using the Octotonic Scale, thank you!!
Amazing !
Thank you !!
This is really useful! I've only ever written melodies, harmony, and basic accompaniment (chords and arpeggios lol), but I've been branching out more recently and this is exactly the sort of info that helps me incorporate more complexity into my music. Excellent video! You've earned my sub 😊
Thanks Emily!
Great video!
This is a great video, thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I've struggled to find a good runs video forever, and then this video just shows up in my sidebar. This is everything I needed. Thank you!
So glad to hear it!!
Amazing video, thank you VERY much!
Great tips, thank you!
Superb video. Your channel is getting better and better. What I like especially is its applicability. Precise tips to enhance compositions /orchestrations in/for a very specific case.
Thank you Jens!!
LOVE THIS CONTENT!
Very Informative
Thank You
Thanks for giving solution to the struggle I was having yesterday ❤️
I love your channel already and I only just found it. Great video!
Awesome thank you for sharing.
great tutorial - thanks
first time seeing ur content.... new subscriber. love it
Fantastic video, examples, and discussion - thank you! :)
Very instructive. Lovely harmonic content. Cool
Awesome video. Thanks!
Very cool
Thank you!
Really cool video!!
New here!!! This makes so much sense the way you explain it!!!
I am impressed by your ability to teach. You are really good.
Excellent video! I could watch another hour of runs haha
I can't believe how interesting this video was considering I do music that has absolutely nothing to do with this kinda stuff.
Thanks for putting it together. That was a well spent 15min.
Thank you!
Unique, complex sound. Good skill
Awesome video!
Brilliant!!
excellent video thanks
Opened up a new avenue for me, thanks man.
Great lesson!
love boat theme (ascending ) , You're The First, The Last, My Everything (descending)- both into first verse.
I love It Here!!!!
So good!!! So clear!!! ❤I'm wondering how much prep or post-production you put into it. It feels effortless! Thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks Franck! It's gotten faster over the years :)
Hi Zache, excellent instructions. Your attention to detail is amazing. I have playing around with this idea lately and had no success. I look forward to returning home later tonight to get in front of my Studio Pc and trying these steps out. You mention a Patreon page? What kind of content do you offer your members? Ideas and instructions like this would worth some money to me.
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such a great video!! I've always wanted to have learn this and add it to my productions... never thought I'd be happy to say this, but... "THANKS ZACH FOR GIVING ME THE RUNS!" 😂
Thanks Thanks thanks🤩
Bassoonist here- velocity wise that's no problem at all. 7:08 The bassoon is a much more versatile instrument than you would expect. Very often people are not daring enough with using the bassoon resulting in boring to play parts.
Anyway- great content!
Great to know, thanks for sharing!
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I only use 2 techniques but didnt know its many as this. I learned a lot
Great video !! Thanks for sharing these techniques.
It could be great to get the midi files of these exemples 😁
Do you want to know what really baffles me ?that I’ve only seen two of your videos, and I already want to subscribe to your premium. I have never even considered this with anyone else. But I’ll pay the price for what you’re teaching. Somehow Grasps my mind perfectly.
That's super kind, thanks so much!! 🙂
Great Information
I was going to write that octatonic scale gliss is impossible to play on a harp, but then I've noticed that you've omitted the Db 😁
Yes, but he didn’t mention it. Maybe a primer on how instruments actually function would be a useful series for him to do!
@@wildflute I would love that! I struggle to compose for instruments in a believable manner.
Very instructive, thank you ! for the next : Compose Good Percussions (How, when and why did you use timpani, tubular bells...)
superb
i subscribed so fast!
Buen video de runs me a gustado mucho. Un saludo y ahora voy a practicar a ver qué sale 😅
Nicely done, thanks! Curious, if I’m reading the track label right it looks like you’re using marcato articulation for the strings instead of legato. Any thoughts on that? The step input pointer was especially helpful for me. I’ve tried recording in half and time and then compressing it, but the step input is better, and I’ve literally never used it!
This is so good, I wanna like it twice.
Don't do that!
Let’s go!
you can learn this in the time it takes to download the 100tb in libraries