In the 2 pack systems where you get a basecoat and a lacquer touch up stick a lot of people just use basecoat and think because the job looks good don't risk going any further so don't bother using a lacquer top coat over it. What they don't realise is these base coats are porus so if you are through the primer on a metal panel your stonechip is still rusting away under your paint repair.
Yh it’s porous and primer is porous, I’m sure you’ve seen cars where they used body filler to do the repair and just sprayed primer and been driving around with just primer, they think the primer will prevent the rust and they will just do the base coat and clear coat when they can be bothered but it’s pointless, primer is even more porous than base coat, pointless just doing half of the repair. What I do is mix the base coat and clear coat then do the touch up. What I bought recently is kwikchip sprayless scratch repair touch up, it’s specially designed for this and you just do the touch up then to level it you can polish it, they have some other chemicals like leveller and haze remover but I only bought the sample which is just the paint but haven’t tried it yet, don’t know if it will any better than normal touch up paint
@@alfgunn you can but depends really if the results are the same as doing it separate, for deeper stone chips I think it would be better to use each process separate including primer touch up as you need to build up the layers to fill deeper stuff and when you put 2 coats on it might look ok but it will shrink and to make the repair look better then you would have to go back and put more layers on
Another great tool to remove the highspot from touch-up paint is the mirka minf denibbing file. Makes quick work on the high spot without altering the surrounding area.
That really is a great result, the stone chips are virtually invisible from a distance, even close up they are hard to spot, great video, I rally enjoyed it❤.
A suggestion: Purchase a "Mirka" Mini File To sand down the chip after using the dabber stick to fill the paint chip. Filling the paint chip must include the full chip as well as the exterior all the way around, let the paint wick itself to fill the chip. Let the paint cure to full hardness prior to using the "Mirka" mini file to perform the sanding of the crown of the chip with the clear coat. After this stage you will be able to perform the final polish. Using this method, prior stone chips will not be visible.
How do you sand the crown of paint down without sanding through the top layer of clear coat? Do you fill with paint just below level and then crown with clear coat, or do you mix the paint with clear coat and use the mix to crown the chip?
@@markburry9989I’m sure you have your answer by now, but most I’ve seen mix clear coat with the paint and then follow the procedure mentioned above. I agree that waiting longer for it all to dry should be adhered to, no point rushing although appreciate the video showing the process.
This video was just what I wanted , just finished detailing my car and was wondering how to fix the stone chips on the bonnet , thank you so much John this will come in handy
Great video, as always. Personally I would always use basecoat and lacquer Jon. Then when the lacquer has cured, gently knock the top of with a sandvik. Then flat and polish to a shine.
For me on my Lexus I became so fixated on leveling the crown I damaged the surrounding clear. 😢 I think cutting down the sanding disc, applying to a pencil eraser or similar item minimizes damage around the chip(s). At some point you need to say good enough they'll never be perfect.
Paint on bumpers, especially bmw is VERY thin. It doesn't require the same level/depth of paint at factory with being plastic. So will, sadly chip moochos easier
Nice. I do something similar where I don't do a crown with the paint, but rather with the clear. I try to overlap just slightly the edge of the chip with the paint and after it dries the clear is applied that has a slight crown. I actually then use a clay bar to flatten it and then polish with a polisher. Works for me.
Hey John, good video thank you. By the way, you can now get paint mixed to code with the clear coat already in it. Very clever stuff frankly. You can get literally a flawless finish. I was let into the secret by a lad I know in a local bodyshop that specialises in fast minor repairs.
from what i remember John mentioned this in another stone-chip touch up video, he said you can get paint + clear coat mixed into one bottle and it's sold as 'glossy paint' repair kit
There is no secret to this. All these companies branding as ‘magic solution’ or ‘shine’. Just get a small pack of 2k laquer, your paint, some small 5ml paint pots and some mixing sticks. Take a 5ml pot and use a pipette to drop in 20 drops of laquer and 10 drops of hardner and mix well. Then add in 20 drops of your colour and mix well again. This thickens the paint so it fills the scratch/chip and doesn’t sag so much. Let it dry and then sand or denib until flat and then polish. You want the laquer in to harden the paint and add the shine. Just using paint isn’t going to last. If it did, you wouldn’t clear coat a car.
I read a thread a decade a go, a guy got a rag, put car paint on it, wiped down the whole bumper, let it dry fior 5 mins, then he used spirits on a rag and block, cleaned it, let itd dry, polished it, mate, he covered 300 stone chips in hours work, now its not what your dong here, but try it, find a ruined bumper, and give us video of the process, cos thats a huge hack. (not detailing standars of course but were the 1%)
wish I'd read this two years ago :D Me and my 120, then i got to the bumper and my heart sank! Lets say it took considerable time and as a first timer, too, some errors were made but all a great learning process in the end. And I had a very strong back at the end of it!
I used to do this back in the day too! I used to use a sponge rather than a rag for the paint. I wouldn't do it on a nice motor, but it's a great way to freshen up the bumpers on a cheaper car that is badly chipped. Trick is not to let it dry too much, or it will be a bitch to polish all the excess paint off.
As I was watching all the good work and an ad popped up for some teriyaki foot long, I’m hungry now. 😆 Going to tackle my car now after finding your channel. Only thing I’m not confident with is the sanding. Goes against the grain I guess. Pardon the pun. Wish me luck! 👍✌️🇬🇧
I just used 2500 grit sandpaper and cut a square bit of plastic stick off something, wrap it around (so its about 10mm wide) then rub it gently back and forth, takes a while. Get creative, doesn't need to be fancy.just sandpaper folded would do, just needs to be flat so you get an even sanding and use very little pressure.
Great job! What about a little dab of clearcoat on top that small dip after the paint dries? Also how about adding Pain Protection Film (PPF) to the front of the car?
Anytime I'm driving begind gravel trucks / cement / or Muddy pickup trucks I try to stay far back behind them and let other cars go in fro t Of me way less chances of hood and bumper getting damage
Excellent video, you make it look really easy. I have all the stuff about from a machine, can I use a ad and elbow grease? Also, whats the difference between say polish, t-cut and cutting compound?
Jon, nice job surprised see how much prefer on pad with compound at end, would that not reduce clear coat by 10-20% ish????? Still learning here, every day is a learning day
Good review of the product! Any chance of letting me know where you got the liquid containers on the shelving which hold your products with the taps on?
Nice one Jon, just what I needed. The one you did a year ago was good, but this has sooooo much more detail, cos you show us all the products you use. Perfect for all us weekend warriors who care but don't have the experience you have. I've bought my nano polisher, ordered the paint from Lexus (yeah I know, money to burn 😁) I had ordered some fine brushes from Amazon, but those sticks look much better as I can chuck 'em away and easily get a crown. Saying an hour for drying in the winter cold for the paint helped. 3000 grit daisy, one of those gone on order along with green and purple Flex pads. I believe Lexus paint is soft is there anything else I should be aware of?
glad it helps dave. i think with deeper ones wait for the paint to dry to see if it needs another coat to riase it up. once you have a nice dome over the chip it can be flattened down and buffed out.
Hi can u tell me how to clean break callipers get them up to a decent grade there on a e class coupe night edition if u could maybe do a video let us all see how or if u can get them up
I just used a kit from Chipex to be fair I’ve had two. When I bought a large kit (£34.99 I think) it had an offer that if I reviewed it I would get another kit (same or different colour) free. It was really good to be fair and matches the colour perfectly.
Can’t wait to watch this later… (just been detailing the chariot to an excellent standard thanks to you) but I’ve got a few ‘read, a lot of’ stone chips. I’ll say thanks for your time and wisdom already cus I know it’s going to be on the button 😎👌🏽
Great content again. Never thought of using a drill to mix the touch up paint, brilliant idea. My paint on my mk2 CRV is a blue metallic but in bright sun has a purple hue. When I bought the car it had a deep scratch which had gone right through to bare metal and had started to rust. I did buy primer,top coat and lacquer as a kit off eBay. But I still need to put more paint in the scratch so those dabbers would be a good idea rather than a model brush.
Hi John , I’m going to give this a go on my m4 in the next few weeks as also have a few stone chips 👍. I have found a chip on the carbon roof that’s at the front so I think a stone has hit it, any recommendations on going about repairing that? Cheers andy
Great vid just one point spinning the paint in the drill is a waste of time as the centrifuge forces the paint to the side of the container so its not getting mixed its static you need to shake it top to bottom if that makes sense.
Wondering if you could help me, on my car I buffed out previous owners touch up paint, when I did it, it left an outline of where the paint had been put on. Do you know what causes this? I’ve never managed to get rid of the outline of it. It’s like they touched in a light scratch about 2 inches wide. That’s gone from buffing it but the outline hasn’t 😢 thanks for any help
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks for reply. How has this not happened with you? I did a bonnet a few years ago, put a blob of paint on let it dry to then buff off the remaining paint, it left the outlines on that too. So frustrating
What happens after it rains and gets dirty again wearing the polish off, does the sanded bit look all dull and sandy again until polished or does it look like a normal car would?
If done properly this does not happen. You machine polish cutting compounds which cleans and clarifies finish which is where shine comes from (can use some them by hand but most can’t work to full effect without a DA). It’s only protective wax/etc wear were off need reapplying as and when required.
Depends how long you want to polish it for and how much you've scuffed it in the sandback. Usually cutting, as Jon said to get the deeper scratches out, quicker.
i used 2000+ polish. it took almost an hour by hand. i think i will use 2000 + ultimate compound + ultimate polish in the future. the compound is maybe equivalent of 4000 grit (still can see swirl marks) and polish is invisible to the human eye.
The problem with this method is that when you sand you'll remove the texture and create a flat spot. When i started detailing way back i did this to my BMW's hood and it was full of flatspots so i had to sand it all over to make it seamless. Something like Mirka mini file would be better tool to level the touch up.
🤔…… or, rather than forking out on those plastic paint dabbers even though they’re only a few £s, you could tear a small piece off the corner of a kitchen towel and twizzle the end to a sharp point. Use this to accurately apply your touch-up paint/lacquer. I’ve used this method for years and it’s easily as good as those plastic dabber thingies. You’re welcome.😊
Or just use something thin and pointed such as a toothpick. never ever use the brush provided, simply too big for precise work. then protect the surrounding, leaving just 1-2mm to blend into the surrounding, then have fun with the 2000 grit sandpaper and compound/polish. 1) perfection is only possible with a respray. 2) a colour-matched flat spot is less obvious than a colour-matched pimple from 3 feet away.
not with gloss paint touch up mate. I dont want multistage touch ups that cost lots of money. I just want to fill the chip. flatten it back and buff it out. done. 2 mins to fill wait a couple of hours. flatten/buff done. 5 minutes total time.
most cars can tolerate maybe 10 times of compounding before the clear coat is wiped out. a responsible detailer will warn you that some scratches are just not worth trying to completely clean off, as long you do not see it and then feel frustrated every day.
Best way I found was take some 400 grit paper and put double sided tape on the back then use a hole punch to make small round disks. Then attach the disk to a pencil with a rubber. Spin the pencil over the crown.
When touching up my car I have been touching up the area and then wen it dried it goes really dark. I have got the right colour for the car. Any ideas mate?
Don't know why you didn't PPF the front end when you took delivery of it? try putting touch up paint under your armpit brings temp up quickly and makes paint easier to mix and use
What cuts more, H8.02 or H9.02? Even using DMC6 and microfibres with these compounds or wool pads for a 1 step it still takes so long to remove the scratches, it cuts through most swirls in a couple passes but then to remove all the very slightly deeper ones, it takes like 5 or 10 times more work. Means polishing takes so long, any recommendations? Hopefully this makes sense 😂
Hi Jon not related to this video all through very good as always just wanted a bit help I use most of the products you recommended my latest car I gave a full 2 day valet finishing of with goon wax which is fantastic the other day car was not that bad so pressure washed and the used built hamper auto wash after using drying towel the paint work felt like 80 grit did not sleep that night thought I messed up when I got home the next day got clay mit out went over bonnet that god back to normal, now really worried about using agian keep up the good work regards tim 😊
hmm some people call it this. because you can use a sanding daisy on a block to de nibb dirt specs. But you can also get stones which are more agressive sometimes referred to as de nibbers or stoning.
@@ForensicDetailing aha. Cheers. I’ve seen the stones. Or carbide. Think called. About 60-80 quid. Painters use on runs??? Think I’ll just pick up a foam daisy 3M product or another … Use some stick on Velcro on 1200 grit on scratch to caress scratches or take heads off ( crown ) off stone chips touch ins. Cheers Jon
In the 2 pack systems where you get a basecoat and a lacquer touch up stick a lot of people just use basecoat and think because the job looks good don't risk going any further so don't bother using a lacquer top coat over it. What they don't realise is these base coats are porus so if you are through the primer on a metal panel your stonechip is still rusting away under your paint repair.
Yh it’s porous and primer is porous, I’m sure you’ve seen cars where they used body filler to do the repair and just sprayed primer and been driving around with just primer, they think the primer will prevent the rust and they will just do the base coat and clear coat when they can be bothered but it’s pointless, primer is even more porous than base coat, pointless just doing half of the repair.
What I do is mix the base coat and clear coat then do the touch up. What I bought recently is kwikchip sprayless scratch repair touch up, it’s specially designed for this and you just do the touch up then to level it you can polish it, they have some other chemicals like leveller and haze remover but I only bought the sample which is just the paint but haven’t tried it yet, don’t know if it will any better than normal touch up paint
Point taken, but easier to just get direct gloss touch up paint.
@@alfgunn you can but depends really if the results are the same as doing it separate, for deeper stone chips I think it would be better to use each process separate including primer touch up as you need to build up the layers to fill deeper stuff and when you put 2 coats on it might look ok but it will shrink and to make the repair look better then you would have to go back and put more layers on
Your telling me! Guess how I learnt that?! 😂
Thanks for the advice!! 👍🏻
Another great tool to remove the highspot from touch-up paint is the mirka minf denibbing file. Makes quick work on the high spot without altering the surrounding area.
That really is a great result, the stone chips are virtually invisible from a distance, even close up they are hard to spot, great video, I rally enjoyed it❤.
A suggestion: Purchase a "Mirka" Mini File To sand down the chip after using the dabber stick to fill the paint chip. Filling the paint chip must include the full chip as well as the exterior all the way around, let the paint wick itself to fill the chip. Let the paint cure to full hardness prior to using the "Mirka" mini file to perform the sanding of the crown of the chip with the clear coat. After this stage you will be able to perform the final polish. Using this method, prior stone chips will not be visible.
How do you sand the crown of paint down without sanding through the top layer of clear coat? Do you fill with paint just below level and then crown with clear coat, or do you mix the paint with clear coat and use the mix to crown the chip?
@@markburry9989I’m sure you have your answer by now, but most I’ve seen mix clear coat with the paint and then follow the procedure mentioned above. I agree that waiting longer for it all to dry should be adhered to, no point rushing although appreciate the video showing the process.
This video was just what I wanted , just finished detailing my car and was wondering how to fix the stone chips on the bonnet , thank you so much John this will come in handy
Great video, as always. Personally I would always use basecoat and lacquer Jon. Then when the lacquer has cured, gently knock the top of with a sandvik. Then flat and polish to a shine.
Any advice or possibly a video to show how to fix a rusty stone chip without any specialist tools/polishers? Thanks.
For me on my Lexus I became so fixated on leveling the crown I damaged the surrounding clear. 😢
I think cutting down the sanding disc, applying to a pencil eraser or similar item minimizes damage around the chip(s). At some point you need to say good enough they'll never be perfect.
BMW paint is notorious for front chips. We do the same technique at our shop. Nice work!
But BMW paint is said to be hard, so shouldn't it be the other way around?
And what about Audi/VAG paint?
Behauptungen aufstellen aber keine Fakten liefern?
Paint on bumpers, especially bmw is VERY thin. It doesn't require the same level/depth of paint at factory with being plastic. So will, sadly chip moochos easier
Love your garage 😊, so nice and orderly tidy.
Congratulations mate.
Nice. I do something similar where I don't do a crown with the paint, but rather with the clear. I try to overlap just slightly the edge of the chip with the paint and after it dries the clear is applied that has a slight crown. I actually then use a clay bar to flatten it and then polish with a polisher. Works for me.
How long do you let it dry before clay? Thank you
@@sw2599 24 hours.
Thanks I try it, im a bit afraid to use sandpaper on my car.
Hey John, good video thank you.
By the way, you can now get paint mixed to code with the clear coat already in it.
Very clever stuff frankly. You can get literally a flawless finish.
I was let into the secret by a lad I know in a local bodyshop that specialises in fast minor repairs.
Hello there - thanks for the update. Can you tell me where to buy this pain with the pre-mixed clear coat?
from what i remember John mentioned this in another stone-chip touch up video, he said you can get paint + clear coat mixed into one bottle and it's sold as 'glossy paint' repair kit
There is no secret to this. All these companies branding as ‘magic solution’ or ‘shine’. Just get a small pack of 2k laquer, your paint, some small 5ml paint pots and some mixing sticks. Take a 5ml pot and use a pipette to drop in 20 drops of laquer and 10 drops of hardner and mix well. Then add in 20 drops of your colour and mix well again. This thickens the paint so it fills the scratch/chip and doesn’t sag so much. Let it dry and then sand or denib until flat and then polish. You want the laquer in to harden the paint and add the shine. Just using paint isn’t going to last. If it did, you wouldn’t clear coat a car.
@@jamesharris231 or you could just buy it already professionally mixed and save yourself the hassle!
@@AntEloftheHouseofEl Correct but the pre mixed is only 1k laquer, 2k is much better.
I read a thread a decade a go, a guy got a rag, put car paint on it, wiped down the whole bumper, let it dry fior 5 mins, then he used spirits on a rag and block, cleaned it, let itd dry, polished it, mate, he covered 300 stone chips in hours work, now its not what your dong here, but try it, find a ruined bumper, and give us video of the process, cos thats a huge hack. (not detailing standars of course but were the 1%)
wish I'd read this two years ago :D Me and my 120, then i got to the bumper and my heart sank! Lets say it took considerable time and as a first timer, too, some errors were made but all a great learning process in the end. And I had a very strong back at the end of it!
I used to do this back in the day too! I used to use a sponge rather than a rag for the paint. I wouldn't do it on a nice motor, but it's a great way to freshen up the bumpers on a cheaper car that is badly chipped. Trick is not to let it dry too much, or it will be a bitch to polish all the excess paint off.
I have done this with a syringe to fill a bigger and deeper chip worked great to "flow" enough paint into the chip
toothpick or needle works just as well, for people who cannot find medical supplies. don't paint on just guide the paint in.
Where can you buy the sanding dic daisy?
Try standing your touch up paint bottle upside down overnight, may help with mixing
I use wooden cocktail sticks for applying paint. Cheap and cheerful.
As I was watching all the good work and an ad popped up for some teriyaki foot long, I’m hungry now. 😆 Going to tackle my car now after finding your channel. Only thing I’m not confident with is the sanding. Goes against the grain I guess. Pardon the pun. Wish me luck! 👍✌️🇬🇧
Would love you to review the chipex kit
Hi where can i find the thing you referred to as the sanding daisy? cheers
I just used 2500 grit sandpaper and cut a square bit of plastic stick off something, wrap it around (so its about 10mm wide) then rub it gently back and forth, takes a while. Get creative, doesn't need to be fancy.just sandpaper folded would do, just needs to be flat so you get an even sanding and use very little pressure.
HI BMW bumper are the worst for stone chips as a paint sprayer they are a real pain to do
Great job! What about a little dab of clearcoat on top that small dip after the paint dries? Also how about adding Pain Protection Film (PPF) to the front of the car?
Takes too long to color them clear. And u still see it. Gotta be rapid for me
Anytime I'm driving begind gravel trucks / cement / or
Muddy pickup trucks I try to stay far back behind them and let other cars go in fro t
Of me way less chances of hood and bumper getting damage
Excellent video, you make it look really easy. I have all the stuff about from a machine, can I use a ad and elbow grease? Also, whats the difference between say polish, t-cut and cutting compound?
the size of the abrasive particules normally mate. agressive cutting compound. fine finishing polish m8
Where can I buy the sanding daisy,,?
Jon, nice job surprised see how much prefer on pad with compound at end, would that not reduce clear coat by 10-20% ish????? Still learning here, every day is a learning day
Good video. I would like to see someone tacle metallic with this method. Solid colors are very easy to deal with.
this is metallic
I use a toothpick works well for fine small chips
5:55 wth is with that clearcoat, sure the front bumper isn’t repainted ?
Front bumper is painted yes
I love how well you're organized! Good job! 😊👏👏👏👍
Good review of the product!
Any chance of letting me know where you got the liquid containers on the shelving which hold your products with the taps on?
labs unlimited mate.
Gest vid mate I've just done my first touch up on mine and I'm so pleased with the results. Cheers - very helpful 👍🏾
Does this work as well with metallic paints because the flakes make the paint not match as well?
Nice one Jon, just what I needed.
The one you did a year ago was good, but this has sooooo much more detail, cos you show us all the products you use. Perfect for all us weekend warriors who care but don't have the experience you have.
I've bought my nano polisher, ordered the paint from Lexus (yeah I know, money to burn 😁)
I had ordered some fine brushes from Amazon, but those sticks look much better as I can chuck 'em away and easily get a crown. Saying an hour for drying in the winter cold for the paint helped. 3000 grit daisy, one of those gone on order along with green and purple Flex pads.
I believe Lexus paint is soft is there anything else I should be aware of?
glad it helps dave. i think with deeper ones wait for the paint to dry to see if it needs another coat to riase it up. once you have a nice dome over the chip it can be flattened down and buffed out.
Hi can u tell me how to clean break callipers get them up to a decent grade there on a e class coupe night edition if u could maybe do a video let us all see how or if u can get them up
Wheel off m8 nice stuff Hoggs hair squirt and poke. Surfex hd is ideal
Does anyone know where to get Daisy sander from?
Keep up the great work John!! Watch all your uploads. 🔥
elite car care sell it in the UK
I just used a kit from Chipex to be fair I’ve had two. When I bought a large kit (£34.99 I think) it had an offer that if I reviewed it I would get another kit (same or different colour) free.
It was really good to be fair and matches the colour perfectly.
Any links for the sanding things?
Can’t wait to watch this later… (just been detailing the chariot to an excellent standard thanks to you) but I’ve got a few ‘read, a lot of’ stone chips. I’ll say thanks for your time and wisdom already cus I know it’s going to be on the button 😎👌🏽
You ever tried the kwikchip sprayless scratch removal kit ?
Similar process but comes with some leveller and haze remover and polish
you could also try a acetone free nail polish remover to try remove the excess paint the crown created.
Found the little blocks and velcro sanding discs at Clean Your Car.
Hi john, thank you again, just wondering if you can just touch them up if you dont have a polisher? Or is it essential to sand and polish afterwards?
You could just dab paint yes but a sand and polish can do better job
@@ForensicDetailing thank you, I'll do the small ones carefully and see how I get on
So If you stuff up the sanding with the daisy do you say "Ooopsy daisy"?
Where can you get the sanding daisy from?
I use a Festool paint shaver. Cracking little tool for taking the paint back. 👍🏼
Great content again. Never thought of using a drill to mix the touch up paint, brilliant idea. My paint on my mk2 CRV is a blue metallic but in bright sun has a purple hue. When I bought the car it had a deep scratch which had gone right through to bare metal and had started to rust. I did buy primer,top coat and lacquer as a kit off eBay. But I still need to put more paint in the scratch so those dabbers would be a good idea rather than a model brush.
Hi John , I’m going to give this a go on my m4 in the next few weeks as also have a few stone chips 👍. I have found a chip on the carbon roof that’s at the front so I think a stone has hit it, any recommendations on going about repairing that? Cheers andy
That bumper paint @ 5:45 - what happened there?
Still wet with the panel wipe where he forgot to wipe it clean. Whoops. Wonder what affect that'll have on the end result.
That clearcoat is fucked
1:36 does anyone know where you can buy sanding daisy ?
Great vid just one point spinning the paint in the drill is a waste of time as the centrifuge forces the paint to the side of the container so its not getting mixed its static you need to shake it top to bottom if that makes sense.
bah I felt so clever doing it :) but yer what you say makes sense you need that ball inside it to rattle around a bit.
Wondering if you could help me, on my car I buffed out previous owners touch up paint, when I did it, it left an outline of where the paint had been put on. Do you know what causes this? I’ve never managed to get rid of the outline of it. It’s like they touched in a light scratch about 2 inches wide. That’s gone from buffing it but the outline hasn’t 😢 thanks for any help
You won't get rude of that it's the edge of the gloss paint meeting the laquer
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks for reply. How has this not happened with you? I did a bonnet a few years ago, put a blob of paint on let it dry to then buff off the remaining paint, it left the outlines on that too. So frustrating
What happens after it rains and gets dirty again wearing the polish off, does the sanded bit look all dull and sandy again until polished or does it look like a normal car would?
If done properly this does not happen.
You machine polish cutting compounds which cleans and clarifies finish which is where shine comes from (can use some them by hand but most can’t work to full effect without a DA). It’s only protective wax/etc wear were off need reapplying as and when required.
Nice one Jon. Is there anything similar out there for glass?
Not really m8 the resin kits I guess
Hey could you post a link to the sanding block and paper you used ? In2detailing don’t seem to have ?
elite car care sell mate.
Cheers Jon
Great video, what cordless dual action machine polisher are you using?
Pxe80 m8
@@ForensicDetailing thank you
I use drcolorchip for those touch ups!👌👌👌
Possibly you should use PPF for better protection
Could you just use a final polishing compound or does it have to have some kind of cut in the Polish...??? Great Vid...👍👍
Depends how long you want to polish it for and how much you've scuffed it in the sandback. Usually cutting, as Jon said to get the deeper scratches out, quicker.
i used 2000+ polish. it took almost an hour by hand.
i think i will use 2000 + ultimate compound + ultimate polish in the future. the compound is maybe equivalent of 4000 grit (still can see swirl marks) and polish is invisible to the human eye.
hey could u use koch green star on paint everytime u washit will it degrade clear or cause oxidation in long run
The problem with this method is that when you sand you'll remove the texture and create a flat spot. When i started detailing way back i did this to my BMW's hood and it was full of flatspots so i had to sand it all over to make it seamless. Something like Mirka mini file would be better tool to level the touch up.
Yer that's true
And you should mask the edges as you may go through on them especially if your a novice !!!!
🤔…… or, rather than forking out on those plastic paint dabbers even though they’re only a few £s, you could tear a small piece off the corner of a kitchen towel and twizzle the end to a sharp point. Use this to accurately apply your touch-up paint/lacquer. I’ve used this method for years and it’s easily as good as those plastic dabber thingies. You’re welcome.😊
Or just use something thin and pointed such as a toothpick. never ever use the brush provided, simply too big for precise work. then protect the surrounding, leaving just 1-2mm to blend into the surrounding, then have fun with the 2000 grit sandpaper and compound/polish.
1) perfection is only possible with a respray. 2) a colour-matched flat spot is less obvious than a colour-matched pimple from 3 feet away.
How do you do touch-up with metallic paint which you can't wet sand?
What about applying the clear coat? Shouldn’t that be done as well
not with gloss paint touch up mate. I dont want multistage touch ups that cost lots of money. I just want to fill the chip. flatten it back and buff it out. done. 2 mins to fill wait a couple of hours. flatten/buff done. 5 minutes total time.
Nice video. Do you know how much clearcoat this removes?
Alot of it. Don't try if you don't want to ruin your bonnet.
most cars can tolerate maybe 10 times of compounding before the clear coat is wiped out. a responsible detailer will warn you that some scratches are just not worth trying to completely clean off, as long you do not see it and then feel frustrated every day.
I've searched the internet and cant find that sanding daisy ....where can i get that and the actual daisy discs also ?
Elite car care m8
Best way I found was take some 400 grit paper and put double sided tape on the back then use a hole punch to make small round disks. Then attach the disk to a pencil with a rubber. Spin the pencil over the crown.
Just get chipsaway, use the dab and swipe method then use their remover. No need for wet sanding at all
Where are the sanding daisy and block from?
Thanks
Elite car care sell them m8
Hi I’ve got a stone chip on me bonnet and haven’t got a clue how to get rid of it, any help would be appreciated
Iv been needing this video! Can you recommend where to get the sanding daisy? I can't seem to find them...
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When touching up my car I have been touching up the area and then wen it dried it goes really dark. I have got the right colour for the car. Any ideas mate?
Shake it more m8
@ForensicDetailing OK cheers mate will give it a try. Thanks 👍
Where can I get it to sand it ?
Where do you get the sanding daisy's from please jon? Thanks
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I have about 10 spots from 1 to 2 inches in diameter that are rusting. Any help would be appreciated.
Steve
I have tried to remove all the rust but need suggestions on what tools would work best. Steve
10 chips on one panel is repaint time mate
Don't know why you didn't PPF the front end when you took delivery of it? try putting touch up paint under your armpit brings temp up quickly and makes paint easier to mix and use
What cuts more, H8.02 or H9.02?
Even using DMC6 and microfibres with these compounds or wool pads for a 1 step it still takes so long to remove the scratches, it cuts through most swirls in a couple passes but then to remove all the very slightly deeper ones, it takes like 5 or 10 times more work. Means polishing takes so long, any recommendations? Hopefully this makes sense 😂
H9 I think more cut according to koch
@ thought so, but don’t they also give it a better gloss rating? So what’s the point of H8.02? 😭
Sir did you use the 3mm or the 12mm with the 3inch pad
12mm m8
where do you get one of those wet sanding daisy's?
elite car care sell them mate
@@ForensicDetailing any idea about where to get them in the US? lol
Where can I get those little wet and dry pads for the touch ups? I own a black car! 😤
Can you share a link to a good but cheap Sanding daisy kit please
Elite car care sell them m8
Those dobbers are actually also dental applicators - microbrushes. Lot of different sizes ;)
Hi John, do you have a link to the daisy pads ?
elite car care sell them mate. p2000 to 3000
Where do u get that little sander ? Daisy one
you can get from elite car care mate
Whats it called?
Felt woozy with your video!
Eaze off the grog
Hi Jon not related to this video all through very good as always just wanted a bit help I use most of the products you recommended my latest car I gave a full 2 day valet finishing of with goon wax which is fantastic the other day car was not that bad so pressure washed and the used built hamper auto wash after using drying towel the paint work felt like 80 grit did not sleep that night thought I messed up when I got home the next day got clay mit out went over bonnet that god back to normal, now really worried about using agian keep up the good work regards tim 😊
The roughness can be the wax be degraded I think. Make sure to use 9nly 5 ml autowash it's almost like water.
@@ForensicDetailing thank you Jon think I may have used to much outowash
What grade are you using on the sanding daisy ?
2500 I think m8
Jon, is a Sanding Daisy a de-nibber?
hmm some people call it this. because you can use a sanding daisy on a block to de nibb dirt specs. But you can also get stones which are more agressive sometimes referred to as de nibbers or stoning.
@@ForensicDetailing aha. Cheers. I’ve seen the stones. Or carbide. Think called. About 60-80 quid. Painters use on runs??? Think I’ll just pick up a foam daisy 3M product or another … Use some stick on Velcro on 1200 grit on scratch to caress scratches or take heads off ( crown ) off stone chips touch ins. Cheers Jon
Don’t you need to sand the chip before applying paint?
Not unless you know what your doing.
No clear coat?
Please, why you only
put the paint without a clear coat ?
its gloss paint for touch ups mate
@@ForensicDetailing thank you very much. please, Do you now what is the equivalent for Y3Y paint? because I find only paint+clear coat sepparatly
no offense mate but when I use a product I trust the people that make it first. This product is designed to be used neat.
@@ForensicDetailing thank you very much for your feedback
What a great job!
Fair play to you, you sound absolutely frozen in this video!
More get up and go than me, that's for sure. 🙌
That tricky 1 still had degreaser on it.
Got a link to the paint supplier?
Just eBay m8
Nice video Jon well done.. get yourself down to Boots with that nose it sounds like a tap!
Do you ever get back pain?
Can do m8 yer
Excellent how to video, thank you!
This is why it’s good to PPF on delivery
Please, could you send us the link for this small sending disc, you call them dazy? оr :)
elite care care sell them mate. go for 2000-3000 grit
Try to stay a distance from the car in front on the motorway it will greatly diminish the chance of stone chips.
How about cars driving in different lanes overtaking you? Surely you haven't thought of that😅 There is no way to avoid stone chips I am afraid.
Yeah that’ll work lmao