I did EXACTLY what Doordash DOESN'T want us to do...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video I continue to test the doordash algorithm as I go head-to-head with one of my previous videos where the goal was to maintain a 70% acceptance rate on Doordash. By doing almost the exact same shift on a Sunday evening I see if declining a majority of orders and only accepting ones that I feel are in the best interest of me, will help me make more money than when I did EXACTLY what doordash wants us to do. At the end I breakdown each shift in depth and see which one ended ups being the best!
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Restaurant employees saying "it's almost ready" or "we'll have it right out" is the biggest lie ever
Which Is why I multi app if they give me trouble I just cancel and go with my other order if I have one
Literally tho, basically they’re saying “you might as well unassign this order”😂
Those phrases are secret code for me to turn around and walk out
Chipotle in my area is just as bad. I waited for 45 minutes before it was even started.....
Personally I feel like they are saying either you Unassign this order, or wait as we waste your time.
I had a restaurant that took 15 minutes after the pickup time. And I was there 5 minutes early. So I waited 20 minutes total. I have yet to decline an order it would have been nice because the order paid 23.50. But unfortunately that one took about a whole hour from the 5 minute drive, to the 20 minute wait and then the 15 minute drive to the customer then I had to drive back to my area. I won’t go back to that restaurant.
I’ve ate at that place and the last time I was there with my mom visiting out of town. The bartender over served a lady she was loud, and yelling at other people and she legit fell into the floor off her stool and she was GIVEN ANOTHER DRINK!!! So that was my last personal visit and that will be my first and last visit for Doordash.
That McDonald’s order you declined was actually better than the double order you took while you were laying on your couch for $12.25 for 7.9 miles. The McDonald’s order was $5.50 for 3.5 miles, which came to $1.67 a mile. Yep the order you took that was 7.9 miles and paid $12.25 was only worth.$1.55 a mile. And not only that it put you out of commission longer so you didn’t get your next orders for a much longer period of time, and you had to stop TWICE. I’m not sure we’re on the same page as far as picking the good orders over the bad ones because that didn’t make sense.
I think his main reasoning for that order was that it was only one pickup location for two orders pay. That's how I see it. It's being incredibly nit picky to judge those orders so harshly when it comes down to basically 10 cents per mile. If they hadn't taken so long with one of the orders, that could've asily been 12$ in 30 minutes whereas the Mcdonalds order could've been $5 in 25-30 minutes..as I'm sure we are all aware of how slow mcdonalds can be
@@ZackRamsey14
Bless your heart.
My take from this is middle of the road be selective but don't cut your throat by being too selective.
Yep! I've had restaurants do this as well! Go in, go to deliver pick up. check in. told to wait. THEN observe the customers IN LINE being waited on, get their drinks, find their tables, sit and gab... THEN get their food... all the while as the delivery order... is STILL BEING MADE... I've refused that restaurants since... I'm sure it fits their personal business model to serve the customers in house first YET for a delivery driver it robs my pockets. EXPECIALLY when the hour is full of customers in their lines. Very frustrating. So, for my personal business model: No trip regardless of tip for that restaurants and at home consumer's! LOL (As IF it even matters to anyone but myself?!!!LOL !!!) Bottom line: feel your pain dude!
Interesting results! Great content!
I’ve had waiting times like that before. At McDonald’s, just left the drive thru after they explained it was almost done 🤣
Quick question. Are these two hour shifts strictly for experiments? If I work I have to atleast do around 6 hours and most of the time its 8. Wondering if you just do this for your videos or do you do this all the time?
Nice job, Blake, would like to see a full day shift 9 hours, like a full time driver.
👍🏻
Had a sonic do me as the place did you. I left a really bad review which got corporates attention. Called them after they asked me to to talk about what happened. The agreed with me when I told them about taking me out of line and put into a stall to wait for over 30 minutes for the orders.when I asked them what happened after they finally brought me the food and wasted oh we are busy and you had to wait for when your order came in. When people who were behind me got their food and left told me everything I needed. Told corporate that it was hit to profits for both of us when they do that even though it's not much but it's stil a hit. Maybe you should do the same?
Ive had to say something to managers about DD customers food having to wait for orders like this. I simply tell the manager that these online orders have already paid for their food and are just like a customer that walked in the door and payed in person. That order should be prepared before everyone else that hasn't payed yet.
That mileage you drive!
Looks like you're in the middle of nowhere.
Guess I'm really lucky to be in a good area.
I live in the same county as him and it's actually a valley with many cities packed into it together.
This is pretty accurate as far as I know. My buddy who introduced me to door dash have a 20% AR over all while I hold a 83% (Florida door dash customers... Y'all need to tip if you want your food.)
My friend won't take a order that's less than 2 dollars a mile. I'll take any order over 6 bucks. Considering door dash is my full time gig and his is part time. If he were to put in as many hours as me. We'd be roughly equal. Also HUGE tip for door dashers. Schedule those shifts. The map can be grayed out but if your scheduled your allowed to dash and if your on the road. You WILL get orders.
Great info! Thanks for sharing!
Lol literally just had an offer to go 20.8 miles for 9.25 while watching this video...the 20.8 miles is one way...not round trip! TF?
Can you just call the restaurants and ask if the order for so and so is ready for pick up upon arriving ?
Would you try doing a day or week of Instacart and see what the pay difference would be?
Maybe, I HAAAATE instacart so much so it’s hard for me to do it at all😂😂
When they look at you and your cell phone with a blank stare…& then they say “I’ll go check and see”… means- “Oh, we didn’t ever start that Doordash order- so how ‘bout you get comfy bc you’ll be here for a while…”
UNASSIGNED. Peace in your buttcrease!!
The crazy thing is, I'm not surprised by these results. The DoorDash orders lately have been suspiciously getting a lot better. Especially those going to content creators. Not suggesting they're somehow controlling this but it's way too coincidental for me.
Interesting
This car is Hybrid?? 42 miles only $6 gas ⛽️ 👀👀👀
3.44 more for88% AR not worth it
How are you making $55 in two hours it takes me eight hours to make that in one of the busiest areas in Palm Beach County??
$55 IN 8 HOURSSS!!!!!!!!???
2:12 lol 😂
What is the best app to track mileage?
Stride
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I don’t take orders for 7 miles unless they’re at least $15. And they want you to stop twice? Dude that was a lousy order.
I think these kinds of experiments are interesting, however, there's not enough data to draw a real conclusion. Since we all know that every day is different, I think you'd have to do at least a week doing it the way DD wants us to do it, versus a week of cherry picking. As always, great video Blake!
I agree, it is fairly random. Thanks!
Lol, if it was up to Doordash, they would make you take a 12 mile order for $3. I don’t care if an order is across the street. I’m NOT taking a no tip
@@devynyates1929 Agree
@@devynyates1929 I don't care if it's 2 feet away, I refuse to do no tip orders.
Agree and this kind of experiments should be at the same time. Plus every day is always different. Sometimes my Wednesdays are bad and sometimes are great!
I'll accept anything that is $2 per mile or higher. But when offers aren't so great I will always decline anything under $1.50 per mile. I'm not running a charity event. And gas is skyrocketing non stop.
I love when they say they are very busy but yet you sit there for an hour and they send you 2 orders going 5 miles or more out of your area for $4 each and then top it off with an order going 2.9 miles for $2.25
I’m sitting at home right now on a $2.50 peek pay and so far I’ve been offered 0 offers. 🤣
and zero tips of course
I accept these orders and look for the non tippers orders and they get canceled. I refuse to deliver the 2.25 orders...
I just started driving for doordash I noticed mostly KFC and MacDonald are treating drivers like shit and it’s not fair
Delivery orders will always be lowest priority, and I can't really blame them. If you owned a restaurant, and you had a bunch of customers who were paying full price for their takeout, and maybe even leaving a tip, and a bunch of DD orders that you were paying a 30% commission on, which orders would you do first?
When you think about it, they are doing the exact same thing we are doing...Cherrypicking.
Usually deliveries get priority or are put in line when they are received. In my area there is only one restaurant that waits for the driver to arrive to start on the order, and I assume it is to keep the food hot, as they are very respectful otherwise.
Most restaurants, I’m able to skip the line. Chipotle even have a dedicated team just to do delivery orders.
If it's not first come first served far too many on either side get pissed off. Everyone knows it's the only fair way to do things. That attitude is a guaranteed failure of a restaurant. Don't ever become a restaurant GM. You won't last.
That's a fair point. Never thought of it that way 👍
You can always walk away from an order if it’s taking too long, in case people were wondering
Completion rate goes down, that’s how I got deactivated🤧
Or you could do the orders you say you will do. Once you learn your area, you will know which places take longer.
This can sound petty but when it comes to restaurants that treat dashers like what happened at that ice cream shop, I text the customer how their order is being treated (e.g serving incoming customers that came after their order was in their system.) I let the customer know of this delay and it has helped me in getting my orders prioritized the next time I go. All it takes is one door dash customer to complain for them to change their priorities.
That’s a good ideas
I also keep the customer informed. Another thing I do, is I leave Google reviews.
I do that too, one customer told me he gave the restaurant a ripping on the phone lol
@@michaelhuebner6843, I have yet to have one removed. I was unaware of that policy though. Thanks for the info.
@@michaelhuebner6843 By law gig app drivers are independent contractors, not restaurant employees, so their reason for deleting driver reviews is total bullshit. Both Google and Yelp get paid by businesses to advertise them so obviously they will act on the interest of the party that paid them. It's all about money.
That's what I do. I waited 1.5 hours before I accepted anything (Monday evening) then made $48.00 in 2 hours 15 minutes. Now I'm back home on a pause having a late small dinner break. 9:35 P.M. After the break, I'll see if I can cherry pick a couple more orders from home. Usually I get at least a couple.
Bro every Wendy’s they wait until you get there to start the order it’s so annoying
What's funny is ubereats orders don't have to do that, they just walk straight to pickup
I cannot make myself take every order😩thanks for your insight
Great info thanks for sharing. Have you noticed DD changing the delivery times for orders once you’ve picked them up? I am thinking they are trying to prevent us from multi-apping orders outside of DD. Any thoughts or experience with changes in delivery times on your end?
I think you need a larger sample pool. The randomness of long wait times during a short time period just doesnt make for good data. Try 10 hours at 70-80%AR and 10hours being very selective. Do a whole week for that matter. You'll have more comparable data then because the average time to deal with all the bs (long waits, terrible traffic, accidents slowing things down, dealing with support) will even out on longer time frames.
Dude, you’re doing waaaay too much. The math is simple, every order has to both pay for itself, and yield a profit. The $ also only reflects the time spent on orders, so now factor in those wait time hours. When you calculate based on what you’re actually earning, you’re not making much at all (hence your TH-cam income). The way to earn money with these delivery apps, is to force them to pay their drivers based on all those things, so tips actually become a bonus. High tipping customers are currently the only way to make $, and as Covid continues to affect jobs, there will be less and less of those.
Dude I cherry picked before the changes and used to average 32 an HR. People look at it wrong. I base what I pick on time. I decline all orders from restaurants I have identified as problem restaurants i.e. restaurants that will make a good order bad just by time standards. 8 dollars for 3 miles is good unless it's at a restaurant that consistently makes you wait 15 to 20 min. I basically try to factor in experience with restaurant, price, and how long the drive will take to get there and back.
They should let dashers rate restaurants
what makes me mad when the restaurants do that is MY CUSTOMER has already paid and is waiting on their food they are a priority!
It’s just really messed up because it could mess up your rating as well because the customer has waited so long.
I do the same thing with Uber. If you don't pick the right rides. You'll make $5 an hour. Picking long pickups will cost you more. I tried to not to pick up people that are 10 minutes away. Unless they're in the direction I want to go. This is why I can make 27 to $32 an hour.
Door dash gives you a late rating if you wait for an order and deliver after expected time. Its not a contract violation but i dont care. Im at 99 percent on time and guess why its not 100. I dont wait if im going to be late anymore. I also blacklist places that do this on a regular basis
I make in 5 hours around 120-140 by cherry picking but yeah haven't kept track of all there rest like miles and all that.....
watched at subway as they waited on everyone , even a guy that walked in after me , before they started my order
Your a very smart young man . I dig your channel . Like you said everyone’s market is different. Just do what’s best for you . Also , thank you for what you do for mental health.
Appreciate the support thanks!🙏
After you click on arrive at the store, you scroll to the bottom of the screen there’s an underlined sentence that asks you what’s going on. If they’re not helping you or they haven’t started on the order click on it and it gives you a menu to select from. DoorDash has feedback to the restaurant to prompt them to start. 8-9 times out of 10. they get it finished quickly. It might not always work but it seems to help me get it quicker. Be fair in your reporting though.
There’s been some that pays $2-$4 where the miles is higher than the pay. Those are the traps because they take forever to get them ready. I learned this before I watched videos to steer clear. Even with less miles the time it takes to deliver can take over a half hour. They’re chronic repeat time wasters.
I dont do BS runs like more miles than dollars
That restaurant that was awful reminds me of a time I stopped to pick up a burger from BJ's walked in and the girl goes it will be ready in 5 minutes and about 10 minutes later she comes over and asks me who I was there for, I told her the name and she proceeds to tell me they don't have an order for that person..... wtf
oh thats happened to me before. Infuriating.
HELPFUL TIP DASHERS:
If you have to wait longer than 30min for an order you get an extra $5. It goes $5/30min.
I don’t know why door-dash doesn’t make it automatic but you just have to call support and tell them. They always give if they verify you waited that long via location/checking etc...
So in his case he should have really made $17.25 from the Apollo order, had he called it in.
Good Luck!
I just discovered your channel yesterday and have watched so many videos, you give me motivation to dash more! You hustle hard and I respect you!
You need to follow each strategy for at least a week and work the same days and hours to be able to compare. Your results are more based on luck than anything else, specially on the day where you accepted 7 out 8 orders. And in here you had to waste time at a bad restaurant. 2 hours are not enough to judge.
4:40 When restaurants treat you like this I would recommend texting the customer something along the lines of "I arrived at XXXX and told I was there to pick up your order. Its seems they do not care since you've already paid and are serving customers that got in line after me already. Due to this I unfortunately will have to unasign this order". Restaurants will keep doing this if they can get away with it.
Already am can't wait times runnin!!
My customer love it when I text them, when I am leaving and where I left the food. Thats where the tips are and also reviews. But reviews don't mean nothing if no one can't see them .
I'm not accepting bad orders, period.
I agree. Cheap people can get their food by themselves. They almost want you to feed them lol
For free
wait you drive a Mercedes for food delivery? Good luck when they start falling apart. the cost an arm and a leg to fix
All good I still got at least 100,000 miles til that happens!
@@Moore.Driven ...lol
3 hours accepted 7/8 orders received a whopping 31$ …..
AT 2:31 is the DD screen showing" your location; 1) restaurant location and; 3) customer location? If yes, how do I get this display BEFORE accepting or BEFORE ACCEPTING? How? i don't get a map like this. thnx
Ice cream and pizza? Hell no. Drive thru that isn't Taco Bell? Hell no. Less than 2 dollars a mile and under 8 bucks? Hell no. Especially not in my 2005 Ford Escape that's lucky to get 19 mpg. Screw Doordash. At least if my acceptance rate is high with Ubereats they give me extra info about my customers and drive.
sometimes not enough orders come thru and im in las vegas....it really lags
One of the things that pisses me off about doordash is after you complete an order they have a little survey. They want you to Mark a :-) for :-( and then they have a spot for you to type in what was wrong with the order if your reason was not on that list. They aren't paying me for time to complete this survey! Especially when you have to type in the reason. I don't know about what other people think but it just pisses me off that they want you to do this and then they don't compensate you for it because while you're doing that you're not able to receive other orders
Bro, restaurant workers literally do food delivery orders last. There was one time at panda express that I came in, the line was super long and I went to pickup area. It took so long to even get helped and then when I did, they didn't even start it. Then I realized by the time I got my order, the whole line was gone and everyone who came in after, got in line, ordered, and got their food before a dash order that was done 30 mins before they sent me there.
That's unusual. All the panda express I picked from gave priority to online order. Keep in mind that sometimes they are waiting on an item to be cooked, those are the times I had to wait.
I used to work at panda express. my stupid manager would tell us to ignore doordash orders and only help customers (who don't know how to order and take forever) I was also a dasher at that time. I told him how unfair that is because dashers don't get paid to wait and customers blame dashers when their order is late, not panda. he laughed and said. "that's not our problem. who cares about dashers? they don't matter? 😲😖😡😖😲 seriously??? and I told him that I'm a dasher. he just laughed. such a jerk and I see this attitude in so many restaurants I pick up from. we have an agreed upon pick up time and partnering to deliver to their customers. I hate cheesecake factory and refuse to go there cause there's no pick up. they make us wait behind customers who are ordering and take forever to order. so I refuse to go to cheesecake factory. that's so messed up. plus, our customers already paid for their food
They be talking shit to us and reporting us like we did something wrong 🥲
Why aren't you including the standard mileage as an expense? You still have incalculable wear and tear on the car. Do you just kind of wait until something goes on the vehicle and then factor that in? Real questions.
I didn’t put it in this video but in a lot of my other videos I show that I save 5% of my taxable income towards car maintenance👍🏻
37 miles times .65 a mile was that the total mileage or did you count the mileage after rhe delivery to get back ballin in the mercedes
Nice product placement for MT Dew Rise.
Most of the time restaurant employees would say “we’ll have it right out” but think delivery drivers are not important. When a order is ready the restaurant employee tries to get to the delivery driver by acting like they have an attention problem because they don’t want to hear the nice surprise of being on time with the order. Treat those type of restaurants like a place and pay order. Try calling them to see if they are working on the order, but they are not I would unassign it.
I received an order today to go 17.2 miles for $4.25!!! I declined of course after taking a screenshot. Unreal. Smh
Gosh that’s just awful
Now Take ur taxes out and fuel costs plus insurance. Not worth it..
I liked the experiment but it seems more like Doordash tried to keep you on the same pace to try to make the same money, it was just bad luck on wait times. So maybe the algorithm is set to make same money instead of acceptance rate.
Portland has KillerBurgers I call them Killer 25 Minute Burger. They are ALWAYS s l o w .
Great information for reflection … thanks for sharing!
You need more numbers than only one days worth.
When you dash do you set a schedule everyday or you just look at the app and see when it's red or peek
how's your Benz on gas? I feel like I spend more on gas than I actually make Dashing sometimes and my gas mileage isn't that bad
It’s really good! It has an echo mode that gets about 31 mpg
I dash in NYC and the traffic sucks.
Good work. I like how you test out new things to compare.
Whenever a restaurant blows me off like that, I just say "sorry to bother you" and leave.
I should’ve done that
I love grubhub pays way more
What is on your car window? Lol
My opinion is that with about 1MM dashers, it is mostly random based on location and availability more than any kind of rewarding. I just dont think their algorithm cares about that.. they just want the food delivered and they don't care who is doing it. As for this example, I think its just volume vs quality. IMO I would rather quality over volume because of the other factors like mileage since lower mileage helps other factors with regards to the car.
Well done sir. Love this research man
Thanks👍🏻
I heard that if you let the timer run oit's run out it don't count against your acceptance rate whereif you just decline it
I think that’s false tbh, if let the timer run out and it still effects my acceptance rate so…
U broke da doordash laaaawwwww they finna catch on and take us all down 🥲
😂😂
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I did a cold stone delivery today it was 8 bucks for 4 miles. Took it they added another order from stone cold ice cream was a Additional 8 on my route. Little did I know after I finished my first order the second one was 15 miles away. 🤦♂️
I never take second order, cause they say on way. But it's always away far away they always lie
@@sampuransandhu5286 Yeah after that one I haven't done another double order. lol
@@disenfage113 true thanks man.
Yeah it’s important to check the mileage and location of the drop off or restaurant .
I run dd and gh and had at least 3 orders picked up from the apps before running out. One of my best was I had 3 pickups from red lobster 2 from dd and one from gh all were ready for me all going the same direction. Made about 63 bucks in 40 mins of work plus 15 in cash tips.
Thank you 🙏
Its true its a waste of time the other day i had to wait like 15mins at Wendys while i had an order already in my car plus i had to help the guy at Wendys telling him what he needed to do with the order and tell him to put the tape on the bag and everything.....so 😡
Man that’s the worst! Sorry you had to go through that:/
I was so upset cause they didnt even left me a tip at least. When i arrived at the mans house he was like oh thats why i never go my self to pick up the food there i was like whatttt??????😆
Good video
Hey Blake, huge fan of your videos. Been commenting a bunch trying to get more people to watch them to help your channel grow. I know you you the apps pretty well and I was wondering, on Ubereats, is there a way to show a busy zone?? I live in a pretty populated area but my map is always the gray color. I didn’t know if I am doing something wrong or don’t have something checked that I’m supposed to. I just started on there last week because you said multiapping was best, thanks.
Adding another variable makes the experiment meaningless. If I wasn’t bored out of my mind I’d click off this video and watch something else
Too small a sample size there plus the unassigned order skewed the data. Try multi apping using the combination of decline now and $8 minimum. Would be interesting to see the results.
Haha I literally just did that in my last video😂
$8 minimum was the best that I saw👍. I interpreted decline now as also having a $2 per mile requirement as well. That's what I always try for with $7 minimum.
@@KevinT7274 oh I see what you mean
@@Moore.Driven That would probably be best for a Saturday night challenge. $8 minimum on a weeknight you might be catching a lot of 💤. $7 maybe would work better during the week.
Bro i average $16/hr in Houston tx
Dang…
Same here, NW side of Houston, after gas and a deduction for regular vehicle maintenance I average 15$ an hour. It's about the same as I make as a driver at Domino's, but that will vary more if you're in a good or bad neighborhood.
I'm pretty sure you'll notice you driving more miles excepting 70%
Yo bro can you give me a quick answer please how much tax do I pay for door dash is it 15.3% or is it more can you please help me out and lmk so I don’t screw my self sense you been doing it much longer than I have.
I’m not a tax professional so I could definitely be wrong but I believe you have to pay the 15.3% self employment tax and then also pay your state and federal income tax
I just started using the para app and why is it that I’m not getting the full amount and should I even bring it up to door dash I don’t want to get deactivated
Don’t bring it up to doordash, apparently the para app tip transparency hasn’t been working lately🤷♂️ idk I don’t use it so…
@@Moore.Driven thanks I though to use to make sure I’m getting what is actually the pay but if it not working right I’m going to stop using thanks
@@michaelhuebner6843 thanks for the insight also have an key points to look for
I used to work for doordash as a dasher support. I’m one of those guys responding to your chats..
Lol
Write to support for long wait in the merchant. You should be compensated for long waits..
Do not unassign yourself. Let the support unassign you to get at least half of the pay. Doordash should give you half of the pay when you reach the merchant
Is it okay to sign up for doordash now but start dashing in September?
This is interesting, however, it's a very small sample size hours wise, and anybody only doing DD in the first place are limiting themselves by not multi apping. Throwing multi apping completely changed the equation.
It don’t pay well in your area lol
🤷♂️
Hey Blake where did you get that positive thoughts frame with words behind you could you possible reach out and tell me where I could get one for myself? Thanks love the videos!
I got it from a place called the atHome store