Andrelton Simmons Is Having a Hall of Fame Career | Baseball Bits
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Andrelton Simmons Hall of Fame chances are the theme of today’s video. In a TH-cam landscape filled with Andrelton Simmons defensive highlights, we certainly enjoy our web gems, but this episode of Baseball Bits, a Foolish Baseball production, is about MLB defensive metrics and MLB analytics, particularly Defensive Runs Saved, Ultimate Zone Rating, and Statcast Outs Above Average.
The Andrelton Simmons Angels have exciting players like Rendon, Trout, and Pujols, but Andrelton Simmons is also a star. I believe he has a good chance to make it to Cooperstown. I talk about Omar Vizquel Hall of Fame voting and Ozzie Smith to determine Simba’s chances. I also argue for his inclusion in the discussion of the best defensive shortstop of all time. I start the video with a clip from the Andrelton Simmons Braves days. He really generated some Andrelton Simmons braves highlights.
Enjoy the video!
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Update: Andrelton Simmons is Not Having a Hall of Fame Career
Sadly…
Great video but I concur!
We always referred to him as "Andrelturd" in Atlanta
For real dude fell off the second this video came out
🤣
I appreciate seeing “Large Attractive” instead of “Big Sexy” 😂
A classic bit
Sexy?! Gross. You said a bad word.
j g I will tell the teacher
Yes
j g please tell me you aren’t joking
Is that trash can going to be a recurring character? I’d like to see its story arc play out over many more videos.
Inspired by this video, I created an .ICO file of the Astros trash can to replace the regular Recycle Bin icon in Windows. Problem is, I need to figure out an icon to indicate a full bin. Maybe a bunch of Alex Cora and A.J. Hinch heads spilling out of it? Or the words BANG BANG on top of it? Haven't decided, looking for suggestions.
6th Wilbury Altuve face
MANCHESTER UNITED stfu soccers for pusses
@MANCHESTER UNITED There are only ~~200 countries in the world
I second that motion.
"Mike Trout will reach automatic HoF status the moment he steps onto the field in 2020"
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[sweats nervously]
I guess it remains to be seen if any players step onto the field. Lol.
too soon
Baseball is coming back!
Eri M yeaaaah boooooooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!
Eri M dingers all day
Most underrated channel on TH-cam? I think so 🔥
I'm not doing too shabby lately!
Dark horse for the Hall of Fame
I’d have to agree, Not too Shabby, Sir.
I like this and SB Nation 👌
@@FoolishBaseball I bet Foolish baseball won’t see this
We'll be using DRS, when available on the long straights of course.
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F1
I definitely didn’t expect to see an F1 comment here, but I’m definitely not complaining.
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
But not in the rain
Here it is, the video that cast a curse upon Andrelton Simmons
Well, once Cooperstown creates a baseball TH-camr’s committee for the hall of fame, I will be sure to place my vote for Simmons. But seriously, Simmons has some of the best defense that baseball fans will ever see. How the rest of his career shapes up will be interesting. Great vid as always! I didn’t know that Benjamin Franklin was so ahead of his time.
How r u verified
@@hoveringbanana782 he makes good videos and the TH-cam gods respect him
11 Barry Larkin All Around 🐐 SS
Since this video was produced, Simmons has hit .232
Now he's retired. As a die-hard Angels fan you will be forever remembered as one of the greatest defenders ever Simba. The angels fan base thanks you, and wishes you the best on your next chapter in life.
Man I wish the Braves still had this guy
Me too! But I think Dansby will be good this year.
Lucky I got to see him play on the braves
@@FoolishBaseball and now Dansby will be injured or regress.
Braves Fan on god
Carson’s Cards same I cried my eyes out when I was like 9 and we traded him
As an aside there's a great video I think MLB produced a year ago called "A Small Island" about how Curaçao develops more MLBers per Capita than anywhere else (incl Simmons). It mentions how the poor quality fields have led to guys being good with the glove bc they grow up taking odd bounces.
If Simmons is exhibit A, guys like Andruw Jones, Profar, and Albies are B, C &D
well no, caracao is c, b is bonaire and a is aruba
I’ve been arguing with my dad that andrelton Simmons should be a hall of famer for a bout a year now thank you for making this
Would like to hear his argument after watching this.
Erik Alejandro honestly same
Ozzie smith could hit for average and stole bases
You must have bumped your head.
I hope you're not still arguing this
Hmm, 9:40 I'd like to see a video on the worst HoF contenders and how they got in
Verlis again
My wrist is so stupid they call it Verlisify
Chain 'round my neck, bitch, I call it Verlisify
I got your bitch on a leash, I'ma just call her Verlisify
I really hate you, but my love for the game outweighs my burning hate toward you
69 likes!!!!!!
NICEEEEE
I had no idea that you were a baseball fan lmfao
I wish he was still a Brave :( loved watching him every day. I hate not being able to watch him play because he’s in the AL now
Taylor Winslette when he played for the braves he was my fav but now Ozzie is
Walker Allen trust me, I love the guys we have now, but there’s just something I really miss about seeing Simba play every day
"I still don't know why the Braves traded this guy..." Yeah me neither. My heart was crushed when the Braves traded Andrelton away and my love for the team has really only started to return with the rise of our youngsters.
Watching this in may 2022 that Juan Soto take just gets more and more respectable
Simba somehow still underrated
I watch ~150 Braves games a year and trading him away was one of the worst moments ever in my baseball fandom career (other candidates include game 5 vs. the Cards this year 🤮)
Bro, when he came over to the Angels all the Braves fans were talking about how great his fielding was and that we just shouldn't expect him to hit well. Then he was like the third best hitter on our team!
When you mentioned all-field no-hit HOFers, I was waiting for you to mention Ray Schalk and boy, it didn't take long. His induction is NOT a head-scratcher, the man invented many defensive backstop techniques that supposedly had never been seen before, like running during a play to get behind 1B or 3B and back them up.
Also, Schalk retired with an impeccable reputation, even though he was a White Sock and was the catcher during the 1919 World Series. Yikes.
As for Maranville... yeah, I'll give you that one.
Maranville was Ozzie Smith 60 years before Ozzie Smith.
white Sox, couldn’t resist pointing out how wierd team plurals like that are
I love that there are actually people alive who know this shit
I was always wondering why he’s in the hall. I went to Cooperstown this summer and saw his plaque and was curious. He had the most putouts as a catcher at the time. Also, a lot more impressive, he caught 5 no hitters including a perfect game in career. Ngl I hated the fact he was in before I read that
Yeah but even all field no-hit players like Yadier Molina and Ozzie Smith still have at least 2,000 hits. If he can stay healthy enough for that long and accrue 2,000 hits then sure he’s in.
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DEFENSIVE METRICS SKIP - 6:27
EDIT 2/24: comment amended to reflect new promo reward
I tried watching this earlier and it crashed. I guess u deleted it😂
FWIW, I'm guessing a disproportionately high number of people who watch and subscribe to your videos greatly enjoy the rundown of defensive metrics. In fact, it's our version of porn (as another commenter noted below).
I agreed with 99% of your claims in this video. But I strongly disagree with the opening claim that Simmons is the only defender in baseball history who could make that play. It is a very good play, but I probably saw it half a dozen times from Matt Chapman alone last year, and a from a few other players, let alone all of history.
Legit checked everyday for a new video for a month and watched this one as you deleted it.
I'll love to see you make a video about the Coors field effect. Does it really helps hitters?
Agreed, but let's also remember that Ozzie Smith also had nearly 600 stolen bases.
There isn't much value in them anymore. If you're scoring the same number of runs, it doesn't matter if you've moved up a base in an inning really. It might make for a "sexy" skill to have, but it's technically possible to steal 100 bases & not get knocked in at all, while another player hits singles & doubles & gets driven in 30 times.
Not an important stat
@@drew1467 What stats are important?
@@markwebb7576 SB's are important/good measure of value, (as long as SB% is good too) but the real problem is it's not a fair comparison. Simmons is in a league that doesn't let speedsters run as much, if Ozzie played today, they would've ran him a lot less, especially with his 80% SB rate, good, but not good enough to get the green light as often as he did.
@@ModernDayRenaissanceMan by this logic you can say that hits aren't a big deal either
As an Angel fan, thank you for loving Simba as much as we do ❤️
Great video buddy. Would LOVE to see more videos along these lines. As a Mets fan I had some hate for Simmons when he was a Brave, but I quickly realized how much I admired his game and his ability. Now that I think about it he was one of the players that made me appreciate baseball so much outside of the New York Me(t)ss. And i'm thankful for that. I don't want the hall to be so big, but I love this take and others like it. Keep up the good work!
Bro, what you did when you said, “it’s tough to get a read on these guys,” (in regards to the old crotchety eye-testers) - was brilliant. -Hope I’m not the only one who saw it.
Please do a video on Matt Chapman’s and Matt Olson’s impact for the As they’re a very under appreciated duo and some of the best in the league
I agree that they are some of the best in the league...but VERY under appreciated? I think you're over exaggerating because anyone who knows an ounce of baseball knows the A's Matts
Matt Chapman is much better than Simmons
I would like a video on that
@@nicholasbrown4109not according to BWAR
Update? (sorry)
Building on the "run saved run earned" it would be interesting to make the swap where u show his offensive prowess based of the runs saved
Like basing offensive stats off defensive stats based off that quote
Great video not only showcasing an under appreciated player but introducing the complicated defensive stats. Cool to see the shift from moneyball not caring about defense to having meaningful defensive stats
revisting this after having to watch his twins career as a twins fan, i am so sorry foolish
Real ones remember when the thumbnail background was green
It was always this color.
Foolish Baseball I refuse to believe that. Does the foolish baseball channel fall under the Mandela effect?
@@Jponto11 Clearly you were once part of a reality where it was green. Do you remember what my next video was in that reality? I haven't made up my mind yet.
@@FoolishBaseball i appreciate the effort to improve!
Foolish Baseball yes you were going to make a video about Barry Bonds’ career and how steroids or not he’s still the greatest player of all time
Actually the Cy Young award should be renamed to the TIM KEEFE award.
The Clayton Kershaw award
Lowen Werner bruh “kershaw award” sounds clean af
@@lowenwerner122 It’ll be named to Kershaw sooner or later
I watched that first play live at Turner Field! It was Braves opening day of 2015. In the moment, I knew that was the greatest defensive play I’d ever seen! The video doesn’t do it justice!
I really appreciate how you make advanced stats approachable.
Wasn’t this uploaded earlier today
I’m better Than you it was, the video had issues that caused it to crash. This is the fixed version.
No. You just entered fugue state and hallucinated it (yes it did come out earlier today for like half an hour)
@@FoolishBaseball "A fugue state, really?"
@@samcardenas1991 I don't really know what fugue state is tbf. I saw it on Breaking Bad.
Foolish Baseball fugue state is when someone forgets who they are and usually goes on some sort of journey
It seems I’ve successfully time travelled back to the first few minutes of this upload
Pretty sure time is in a loop or something. You have just managed to navigate back to the beginning.
Foolish Baseball I feel, have felt, and will feel the paradoxical effects due to this revelation
Loved the video Bailey! I enjoy when you explain the more advanced stats, both because I think you do a great job at it and because I need to learn more about them! Without your channel, I probably wouldn't have ever learned about OPS+, ERA+, etc... Also I'm interested to see what Simmons future holds, he is a FA after 2020, and you would think if the angels were going to extend him he would have already been extended in the past two offseasons during the extension hype period. They might let him go, they seem to be moving away from their defensive focus with players like Upton, letting Calhoun go, and getting Castro over Maldonado. I'm sure many other teams will be interested in him though!
Every time I watch a Foolish Baseball video my reactions go from:
Who is this again?
To:
OMG my new favorite player!
I’ve decided to come to this one after visiting the Tim Locastro one cuz it’s less hectic and think could work for this.
ATL fan here, I remember being so upset when the Braves traded Simmons in 2015. In retrospect I thought it was because they knew Dansby was in the pipeline. But turns out Swanson wasn’t in our farm system til a month after the Simmons trade. Bonkers. We got Aybar and Newcomb 🤷♀️🤷♀️
another great vid man. still cant believe you're only at 82k subs. so many more deserved
I have so many more favorite players because of this channel. Players I wouldn’t have considered otherwise. Thank you
He was a good player for a while. But unless he can reverse what appears to be a decline phase, he's not getting into the HoF unless he buys a ticket. The ankle injury he suffered in that collision in May of 2019 seems to have completely altered the trajectory of his career, unfortunately.
was still an elite defender last year, problem seems to be the bat has vanished
@@mistershabba exactly. If he can even have a slightly past his prime Vizquel bat and play a few more seasons he's got a real shot. He was batting like a 37 year old Omar this year
@@ezridaxsgender3914 He has no shot in hell. He's a career 265 hitter with a 313 on base percentage. He won't even get 2000 hits before he's done.
@@HiddenHandMedia by the time he retires, so will have all the BBWAA members who actually care about batting average. If Omar could have a chance (sans personal issues) then Andrelton if he achieves within the same ballpark of longevity's
@@ezridaxsgender3914 if only people could realize how empty of a stat batting average is. Its no where near important enough to be a deciding factor for the HoF. Its not an unimportant stat but there's way more to offensive production than average.
Wonder how this aged, Simmons is literally out the league bro
Again, dont even watch baseball but I still feel the need to watch your videos, great job as always FB, hope you're doing well.
I haven't even watched this yet and I can't tell you how happy I am that you made this video
"I still don't know why the Braves traded this guy."
Because we _HATE_ success.
Yup... that's why we let the Cardinals score 10 on us in the first inning of game 5, and have Josh Donaldson walk in the off season. Honestly, I'm surprised we dont trade Freddie, Ronald, Ozzie, Dansby, Folty, and the Chipper Jones Statue
I’m mean we are in the nlcs and dansby is ok
I hated losing Simba and Kimbrel but we needed a rebuild. After all, we had peaked as a good but not great team that couldn't win a post season series. Fortunately we are making one heck of a run right this year, so it easier to justify!
Hey we’re one win away from the World Series 😂
@@dustinlong3114 And It's Gone!
My first thought was “no way” and then I considered it for literally 1 second and decided if Ozzie Smith is a surefire HOFer then Andrelton should be too
Ozzie is a thousand times better than this clown.
@@ruttedpanda7884 - It's "you're funny", and I wasn't joking. He is a shit hitter, but a decent defender. I can think of ten shortstops I would rather have than him.
@@dennissvitak148 Who are your 10 then?
@@NothinButRock - Need to take the missus out to a nice lunch..I will get back to you, later today. Easy ten, if you combine offense and defense.
@@NothinButRock - Not in any particular order...Honus Wagner, Ozzie Smith, Derek Jeter, Ernie Banks, Cal Ripken Jr., Bobby Wallace, Luke Appling, Luis Aparicio, Joe Cronin, Dave Concepion, Alan Trammell, Phil Rizzuto, Barry Larkin, Lou Boudreau, Arky Vaughan, Robin Yount. There's 16 for ya. Can I help you in any other way??
Your videos are the HIGHEST of tiers
Love everything you do
I love the background music, keep up the good work man!
Who’s here after he got DFA’d?
Two years later, now this video is kinda sad :(
"The best version of WAR is the one that supports you argument" This bit was actually pretty good, haha. And it's so true
RENDON? Even 4 years ago, I would’ve said that was nuts. That’s even crazier to hear now.
I need to see a video on how "large attractive" hit a home run.
Fun fact: he also drew a walk that same year. His only career walk and his only career homer both in one season.
What's worse: being the pitcher that served up a dinger to Big Sexy, or being the pitcher that *walked* Big Sexy? 😂😂😂
Can someone timestamp me to the part where he says large attractive
@@bellioverjudge36 10:51
Sam Federman thanks
Can you do a video on who you think will break the cycle record
I have recently discovered your channel and I'm very impressed with everything
Always a good day when a baseball bits episode is released
I thought DRS was drag reduction system
2 Baseball Bits in one day? What is this sorcery?
Well, it's the same Bits twice.
Foolish Baseball big brain
big props on not trying to explain something that you're not comfortable with / is too complex to put into quick video format.
I love how well you understood the irony of the opening lines.
I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO UPLOAD AGAIN
Only took a month :P
Glad someone is giving this man some respect
All of the Mana music gave me the warm fuzzies.
Love this channel :)
This man has opened my mind and did whatever he wanted to me.
He baked me a cake. It was good.
I'd love to see a video on Cal Ripken Jr's actual value
The Streak (a novelty stat) and his 1983 and 1991 MVP seasons. He was a so-so fielder, decent hitter, and definitely the most overrated player in the HOF after Derek Jeter (at least Jeter was a better hitter even if his power stats weren't as average as Cal's). But I'd love to see video from someone who understands baseball better than me.
Kylie McInnes If you ignore Cal’s streak and Jeter’s postseason stuff, two things that really shouldn’t be taken into account when comparing players fairly, Jeter is a superior hitter than Cal, but Cal is an elite fielder while Jeter is way, way, way below average
Better fielder than Jeter. Nowhere near the hitter. But being there every day he is incomparable. Being there got him 3000 hots and 400 plus Homer's. Things never done by a shortstop before him. I'm grew up an Os fan in DC pre Nats arrival. His value is he made me a Baseball fan and someone who doesn't miss a day of work 💯
You ask any player in MLB history to play 162 games a year for 16 years and not miss a day. Barely missed any INNINGS in 16 years too. Which is also.his flaw. Played through injury when he didn't have to. Impacted his swing ( nobody changed stances like Cal!) And his numbers
@@Kylora2112 A so-so fielder? LMAO He's a far greater player than Jeter.
Unfortunately he fell off a cliff the second after this video was uploaded
this channel is single-handedly responsible for reigniting my love for baseball. i came for the stats but stayed for the corny jokes. thank you for great content
Thank you for this, my boy Simba deserves some recognition
How would you feel about some sort of official partnership with MLB? I’m curious about your thoughts on possibly working with them to create content or something like that
That's a stupid question. Of course he'd like to work with MLB. "haha no thanks, I rather be on TH-cam than get promoted by MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL"
@@moegerms You should try to get a role as his mentor since you understand him so well. Not everybody has the same values or goals as you lmao.
14:05 WISH GRANTED.
Simmons' smile is my favorite. He seems totally humble. I hope the Angels extend his contract.
I used to watch Simmons highlights before every game definitely a top 3 favourite players for me all time
Watching in 2021. This didn't age well 😕
He was just traded to the Twins within a minute of posting this. You heard it here first
The first player I remember looking up JUST because of his defensive stats was Jason Macdonald. There is so much to look at in baseball.
I thoroughly enjoyed this.
Sucks that he fell off cause he was on pace for it
2023: Andrelton Simmons is not in a MLB Team's roster
I know this video is 2 years old but listening to that Seiken Densetsu 3 town music is soo Nostalgic! 🤩
3:22
Haha, relevant baseball commentary.
I approve.
So this is why you’re called “foolish” baseball.
Just kidding, nice take.
2 years later, I'm not seeing this one happen.
10:45
you are my favorite thing about youtube right now
Each video released continues to show why Foolish Baseball is arguably the best Baseball analysis channel on youtube. I just wish he would post more often...but the depth of research needed for each video is astounding and I understand why it takes so long. I will take quality over quantity,
This did not age well….
And now Simmons isn't even starting. He fell off so hard. Sad to see. I doubt he makes the HOF now.
Yet again, another amazing video.
You have amazing videos, but this has to be one of the best!
2021...this video didn't age well...
Um, what DRS.
Oh wait, cant do this.
How dare you
Rabbit Maranville and Ray Schalk were playing so long ago, we don't have advanced metrics, but it's common knowledge that they were great on defense! (Also Maranville lasted so long he had a strong case in counting stats.)
This channel is SO underrated it hurts.
What vorp?
value over replacement player
@@staciemohler4624 🐐
And he went out and had a 58 OPS+
I simply love this channel
Brilliantly made!
Aged like milk
This makes me sad now.
Your channel is so underrated, just like the beauty of baseball
Me wathcing this video again in 2024 seeing Rendón mentioned for HOF😳😳