The Worst Fielders In Baseball History

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  • @madethecut
    @madethecut  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

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    • @anticensorshipsociety1063
      @anticensorshipsociety1063 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why don't you attempt to be original by not featuring a Yankees player in the thumbnail? Is that even possible for you? At least in any "worst" category. It's okay though, the HOF voters disagree. Calling his defense "subpar" is debatable but I can respect the opinion. Calling him the worst defensive player of all time? It's not merely absurd it's next-level/industrial strength hyperbole.

  • @UTNatlChamps
    @UTNatlChamps 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +188

    You missed perhaps the worst defensive player of all-time: Adam Dunn.
    Over a six-year span, he had -136 DRS and his career total is -162. His career dWAR was -28.4 despite fewer than 8,300 PAs.

    • @nobeardthepirate9172
      @nobeardthepirate9172 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Love Adam Dunn.

    • @robotbro7187
      @robotbro7187 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      SS, CF, C, and 3rd are the only positions that really make a noticable diff with defense. I still rather have an elite hitter whos avg or slightly below average at defense than an elite defender that sux at hitting.

    • @marcballprogram
      @marcballprogram 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was thinking the same thing. I was hoping for an explanation of -5.2 dWar in one season. I just don't understand how that's even possible.

    • @the_roflcakes
      @the_roflcakes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@robotbro7187yep. Look at Jason Heyward lol. Cubs spent a fortune on that dude and he still can't hit to this day 😂

    • @TKar27
      @TKar27 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah Adam Dunn, yet Jeter is number one. Played 150 games a year for all but 2 years and missed the playoffs once. Drs and UZR credit nothing g for durability or pressure packed environments.

  • @BrightHornet936
    @BrightHornet936 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +327

    Its crazy how people still value errors when Castellanos didn't register a single one in 148 games

    • @sniperguyAZ
      @sniperguyAZ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      they score a lot less errors nowadays as well so you have a point

    • @holographer
      @holographer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

      You have to be able to get to the ball in order to commit an error!

    • @tony-cl-303
      @tony-cl-303 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nothing was an error this year lol

    • @JonathanBre
      @JonathanBre 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      He also had a few defensive plays in last years postseason run that legitimately saved games

    • @DankBirdGang52
      @DankBirdGang52 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@JonathanBreYeah, those turtle slides were clutch af

  • @bigjared8946
    @bigjared8946 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    The only thing keeping Raul Ibanez out of this video is the fact he wasn't a full time player until he was 29. His adventures in LF were like snuff films that generated dozens of all-time great gifs. The lawn dart is still my favorite.

    • @justinlast2lastharder749
      @justinlast2lastharder749 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Seattle was Smart and had Defensive Center Fielders and Ichiro to compensate. They'd shift Center over to cover half of Left Field for him with Defensive Wizards like Adrian Beltre and Jack Wilson/Yuniesky Betancourt expanding the Infield into the short portion of Left Field.
      Unfortunately, that's where Seattle's Intelligence Ended as they also thought Richie Sexton and Russel Branyon were Power Hitters to build around during that period.

  • @deeteedubzz
    @deeteedubzz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Why at the end of every sentence does it sound like youre going up a note?

    • @Ty_Guy2K
      @Ty_Guy2K 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I was losing my mind after 1 minute of listening to him ngl

    • @ludwigiapilosa508
      @ludwigiapilosa508 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Same. He needs to cut down on that.

    • @AceManning18
      @AceManning18 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Trying to sound .. important? Smart? Idk what it is, lmao. But he's a good creator, he doesn't need to do any of that extra shit.. we enjoy the content, just be real! Nobody talks like that in real life 😂 I refuse to believe it

    • @lordclaret5075
      @lordclaret5075 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don't know what you're talking ABOUT.
      The cadence and inflection isn't repetitive AT ALL.
      In no way is it incredibly DISTRACTING.

    • @MountainStreamLives
      @MountainStreamLives หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I make the same comment on all his VIDEOS.
      It’s incredibly FRUSTRATING because his content is otherwise GOOD.

  • @johnharris6655
    @johnharris6655 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Back in the 80's or 90's when the Dodgers had Pedro Guerro at 3rd, Mariano Duncan at short, Steve Sax at 2nd and Mike Marshall at first, was one of the worst fielding infields of all time. So there is a story where Tommy Lasorda is having a team meeting and he says "Pedro, bottom of the 9th, tying run on 3rd, two outs what are you thinking ." Guerrro responds saying "I am thinking 2 things coach, please to not hit the ball to me." Lasorda ask what is the other thing he is thinking "Dear God, don't let them hit the ball to Sax."

    • @GrwnASman
      @GrwnASman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hilarious! I remember that team. I always wondered how in the world was Duncana a pro SHORTSTOP!

    • @beyondthedead7677
      @beyondthedead7677 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol, how did Pedro not even make it to the honorable mentions list? East coast bias? I clicked on this fully expecting to see him muffing a ground ball, dropping a throw, or airmailing one to the wrong base.

  • @Kumquat_Lord
    @Kumquat_Lord 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

    I remember watching prince fielder hit an inside the park home run. That was magical.

    • @burlyzulu
      @burlyzulu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Were you at the game our watching on TV?

    • @patrickkirkham
      @patrickkirkham 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember seeing that on the highlights

    • @chad7982
      @chad7982 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Damn 😅😅

  • @JoshStern23
    @JoshStern23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    Castellanos has drastically improved his defense and has been a very solid right fielder in Philly

    • @tjboylan20
      @tjboylan20 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Definitely it’s because of the work he put in and the Phillies moving him to where he always comes in and to his glove side where he is his best

    • @robotbro7187
      @robotbro7187 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      if you look at his advanced metrics, it shows him as an awful an RF still lol. Thats why is overall war is so bad. I disagree with that though, hes a lot more valuable than his war says, defensive metrics are too heavily counted towards or against a players value. I'd rather have a player like him than someone who can't hit a lick but plays amazing RF

    • @richardm123
      @richardm123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@robotbro7187 I suspect that's why Johan Rojas has been so important for the Phillies in CF. His speed and glove allow him to effectively shrink Castellano's field responsibility taking away a lot of dropped balls

    • @robotbro7187
      @robotbro7187 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richardm123 yeah true, rojas should be a solid hitter too, at least when it comes to avg, so the phillies will be able to keep him a full time starter, which will make him even more valuable to the phillies

    • @draneym2003
      @draneym2003 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@tjboylan20Putting in the work is great. But it doesn't erase the past either. I mean, look at these routes.

  • @mac7133
    @mac7133 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ah baseball, where getting a hit 3 out of 10 times makes you elite, but fielding 96% of balls makes you terrible

    • @GrwnASman
      @GrwnASman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I never, ever understood that. 96% fielding horrible!

  • @jellomarx
    @jellomarx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tommy Lasorda once asked Guerrero what is he thinking about when he in the field. His answer was “I hope that he doesn’t hit the ball to me.” Flabbergasted by his answer Lasorda asked a follow-up question “what else are you thinking about? I” “I hope they don’t hit it to Sax. “😊

  • @teagle8650
    @teagle8650 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    You end every sentence with the same inflection on your voice. You have to change that it’s brutal

  • @hardybryan
    @hardybryan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I still think Jeter would have been league average or better at 3rd base. Range doesn't matter as much there and that was his issue. He handled the plays he could get to at a very high rate and had an excellent arm. All these years later, I still can't believe the Yankees moved ARod off SS for Jeter. It's not like tons of people hadn't already been pointing this out.

    • @a_coleman11
      @a_coleman11 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Because Jeter had already proved himself at that point at SS. Plus the fanbase would have revolted if they moved DJ

    • @hardybryan
      @hardybryan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @a_coleman11 Many fans and commentators were already well aware that Jeter was a shit SS and called it out at the time. It wasn't the fans who would have been upset, it was Jeter.

    • @roycolon1362
      @roycolon1362 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I felt that Jeter should have been made 2b, ARod kept at short, and Cano should have been brought up as a 3b, optimal infield for that group

    • @roycolon1362
      @roycolon1362 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then if u think of it, part of the reason they signed tex was to have a good fielder for jeter at short, they don’t sigh tex, they have the pick for Trout, they sign manny ramirez for the ‘09 season and move swisher to 1st with an outfield/dh bench: Damon, cabrera Gardner, Ramirez/Matsui

    • @seveng1147
      @seveng1147 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Arod shoulda gone to the Sox

  • @MrRenstimpy44
    @MrRenstimpy44 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Why does your voice rise at the end of sentences

    • @dillonmaclennan1261
      @dillonmaclennan1261 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Lol true good callout

    • @ballerboi4980
      @ballerboi4980 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s intentional, subliminally draws you in to what he’s saying, check out some other video essay TH-camrs and you’ll hear the same thing

  • @zachgray4767
    @zachgray4767 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Literally every sentence, you end with a strong inflection on the last syllable. I cannot watch this video haha

  • @annamariaisland1960
    @annamariaisland1960 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Great video - if nothing else it makes one appreciate even more the players you highlighted in the beginning (B Robinson, Clemente, O Smith etc.). Reggie Jackson in his Yankee years was considered hilarious in the outfield. After the "Reggie Bar" candy bar came out, a NY sports reporter said it wasn't needed as there was already a bar named for Jackson. It is called "Butterfingers."

    • @garryharris3777
      @garryharris3777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Reggie was a good defender in Oakland. He completely stunk in New York.

    • @stephenthompson3348
      @stephenthompson3348 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🍫 great joke I*ll remember that one

  • @BishjamIC
    @BishjamIC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I'm surprised to not see Adam Dunn. Granted he was only a part time fielder, and for a reason.

    • @nobeardthepirate9172
      @nobeardthepirate9172 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love Adam Dunn.

    • @BishjamIC
      @BishjamIC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nobeardthepirate9172 He was an interesting player. But at best an apathetic defender.

    • @nobeardthepirate9172
      @nobeardthepirate9172 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@BishjamIC He didn't get payed to play defense he got paid to hit homeruns and strike out, and he did historic levels of both. 38th and 3rd all time respectively, or in other words he is Reggie Jackson

    • @BishjamIC
      @BishjamIC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@nobeardthepirate9172 Fair point. But it doesn't detract from my point that he was an apathetic defender.

    • @nobeardthepirate9172
      @nobeardthepirate9172 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BishjamIC it wasn't meant to.

  • @nicholaslaport3354
    @nicholaslaport3354 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Anyone who watched that last two game performance of the NLDS by Castellanos knows why the phillies play him.
    Hint: first player ever with back-to-back multi homerun games in the playoffs

  • @rickfromtexas4659
    @rickfromtexas4659 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    The Texas Rangers once had a clubhouse award called the Iron Skillet which went to the player who had the worst defensive blunders each week. The story goes that the iron skillet spent one entire season in Pete Incaviglia's locker.

  • @orlandogonzalez8060
    @orlandogonzalez8060 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You didn’t even mention that Hanley ruined Kershaws perfect game with an error 😭

  • @j_supha8335
    @j_supha8335 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    You mentioned Castellanos but forgot to mention the guy on the same team who’s taking the DH spot ahead of him… where Schwarbomb

  • @bobrob8250
    @bobrob8250 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    To everyone talking about how Castellanos has no errors this year fails to realize that he doesn’t have any errors because he doesn’t get to a lot of balls, so they aren’t considered errors cause he doesn’t even get a glove on them.
    I love Casty, but he’s no Willie Mays out there. The defense is better in Philly, but exceptional.

    • @charleskra
      @charleskra 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Castellanos hasn't had an error in the last THREE years........and he has an excellent arm.

    • @Gnar_Dogg
      @Gnar_Dogg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He's terrible at reading the ball off the bat. Hard to get to the ball when you constantly make bad reads.

    • @schlootle
      @schlootle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@charleskraExactly, that just proves we value errors too much when we analyze defense. Just because he hasn't recorded errors doesnt mean he isn't a bad defender. He struggles to get to the ball consistently and that leads to runs scoring. He won't get an error if he isn't close to the ball. Lucky for Nick he is a great batter.

  • @MikhelBL
    @MikhelBL 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Unfortunately UZR and DRS are useless before the use of tech to pinpoint players and the ball's positioning. Michael Humphreys published articles about it and has a book detailing how a very good player can be penalized because even though he can have good range up until very recently there were people deciding where the play was made either live in stadiums or using precarious videos.
    People from BIS are on record saying "the concerns raised by Michael Humphreys and others may have some validity, especially when using data from earlier years with estimated hit locations. However, as technology and video feeds have improved, so has our data quality."
    How bad could it get? "any hit location was better than no hit location; therefore we plotted the hit locations based on the descriptions available to use, even if that was just a radio broadcast." Even though they go on to say that 6-8% of plays had no video and thus relied on radio or any description whatsoever lets keep in mind that you shouldn't be giving a score to plays based solely on what you imagined happened because even today not every play shows how much the fielder covered.
    It is quite interesting too that Pedroia was rewarded by rolling in the ground to get to the ball while a rangier second baseman like Canó was penalized for having more range, a better fielding technique AND arm, Canó fielded almost every ball standing up while Pedroia was out of the play in the ground after releasing his throw. It is not surprise thus that also Jeter was penalized because scorers employed by Bill James tended to score plays where he covered a lot of ground as "easy plays" while balls that were hit to a SS that was already shifted were deemed as harder plays because when the TV cut to the SS fielding it appeared as if he moved from SS, which was a lie: shifted infielders usually got better ratings, back in the day not shifting was criticized from Jeter, when he employed the shift the system scored him better but the amount of plays he made were less, thus he returned to fielding as always, people often use videos of Jeter's blunders from late in his career to try and confirm UZR and DRS biases from earlier in his career whom already had spent 8 seasons at SS in the majors.
    It might not come as a surprise that players from the team that employs Bill James were routinarily rated better, so much that he tweaked the scoring system to avoid penalizing left fielders when the ball hit the fenway left field wall 20+ ft above ground level, Manny Ramírez was after all being penalized before that.

    • @alwillk
      @alwillk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cano never had any range. He had very strong arm. He finished slightly above average per inning but below average per game at 2b. So depending on what metric you want to use. He was slightly above average or slightly below average.

  • @ticnatz
    @ticnatz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I know people don't really care, for the most part, about anybody who played before they were born, or before they became aware of baseball. But a player that should be mentioned here would be Dick Stuart. Stuart was a hulking first baseman who could hit a ball a mile, but he wasn't called 'Dr. Strangeglove' for nothing. He played from 1958 until 1969 mostly playing for the Pirates & Red Sox. He received MVP votes 3 times, but certainly not for the leather....

    • @kendallevans4079
      @kendallevans4079 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      LOL.....I'm old enough to remember Stuart!.....To call him a butcher in the field really is insulting to real butchers in every meat dept.!

    • @yankees29
      @yankees29 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Like a Dave Kingman type

    • @kendallevans4079
      @kendallevans4079 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@yankees29 Haha....That man had some hurricane force swings, sometimes they hit the ball

  • @stantonthezag1109
    @stantonthezag1109 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I enjoyed this VIDEO! I like how you take on sacred cows like Derek JETER and use advanced metrics to defend your ARGUMENTS! And after a while I got hypnotized by the rhythm of your patter, how you emphasize the last word of each SENTENCE!

  • @a_doggo
    @a_doggo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm not sure why, but this is probably my favorite video that you've made. Perhaps I've just had a rough day, but this was incredibly interesting. I don't think we spend anywhere near enough time looking at what players are doing on defense. I remember being a HUGE fan of Jeter and Sheffield. I knew they weren't fielders, but I had no idea they were that bad. It all makes sense, though, if you saw them in their prime. Everyone thought Sheffield was going to be the next boy wonder.

    • @pepsgaming2691
      @pepsgaming2691 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for not being like most delusional Jeter fans who refuse to accept the fact that Jeter is one of the worst defenders ever.

    • @TKar27
      @TKar27 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pepsgaming2691the real thing is that jeters best defensive years aren’t counted in his stats. He’s massive for the position and played consistently, through injury, in a constantly pressure packed environment, in the biggest city in the world. Thinking that the numbers count enough to call him the worst defender of all time is laughable. He managed games, you’d have to have watched his career live to understand that. The argument that he’s this defensive abomination is simply not true. Lacks so much context.

  • @danielcalvert2700
    @danielcalvert2700 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine having "Fielder" in your name and being a bad fielder

  • @nicholasdirenzo7711
    @nicholasdirenzo7711 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Castellanos had 0 errors this year wtf

    • @ezzio8611
      @ezzio8611 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It's says MLB History, read then react.

    • @Name-pb8mw
      @Name-pb8mw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      He also had -7 oaa

    • @jackmehoff916
      @jackmehoff916 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂29 ppl are dummies

    • @VinceWhitacre
      @VinceWhitacre 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You have to get to the ball to make an error.

  • @cokesquirrel
    @cokesquirrel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Every time I see video jeter fielding I'm reminded of the onion headline Derek jeter able to make easy play look hard once again

  • @bauerj3398
    @bauerj3398 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    let us not forget Lonnie Smith. One of the better, if insulting, nicknames in sports history. Skates looked like he was playing outfield on ice.

  • @horchataguy91
    @horchataguy91 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When you brought up Hanley, it reminded me this dummy caused Kershaw a perfect game and once he dropped a liner so he could get a double play knowing the whole world was watching him..he was good with the bat, but second hand embarrassment with his defense..glad we sent him to Boston 🤣

  • @codenamelarry6518
    @codenamelarry6518 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The day the Red Sox signed Hanley Ramirez was the day I realized the the Red Sox enjoy having a guy in Left Field named “Ramirez” who is not as good as everyone thinks he is.

  • @timothyberner92
    @timothyberner92 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Nick Castellanos played good right filed for Phillies past two years. He made several big plays out there. Phillies help him get better in field

  • @TheRealPhillieFanatic
    @TheRealPhillieFanatic 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Having nick castellanos front and center is diabolical. Dude never makes errors

  • @ToBeHonestWitchu
    @ToBeHonestWitchu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    So happy to see derek jeter on here

    • @sir.muffiniii7011
      @sir.muffiniii7011 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why

    • @RenitentHat5269
      @RenitentHat5269 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sir.muffiniii7011i assume because of his extremely overrated status as a fielder due to him being a lifelong Yankee and the media cock riding him into ridiculous awards he won despite being statistically awful

    • @boltzsnipez5385
      @boltzsnipez5385 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@sir.muffiniii7011bc jeters defense was ass but not many people talk about it bc offensively he was amazing

    • @sir.muffiniii7011
      @sir.muffiniii7011 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@boltzsnipez5385 oh I thought he meant that he hated jeter or something

    • @boltzsnipez5385
      @boltzsnipez5385 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sir.muffiniii7011nah. i think he was just talking about how many people realize jeter wasn’t good defensively

  • @orbyfan
    @orbyfan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This should be retitled, "Some of the worst fielders since the early 1990s," since I didn't see anyone mentioned whose career mainly took place before then. At least two more Ramirezes should have been mentioned: Manny, and '70s utility infielder Ted. As examples of how deceptive statistics can be, Greg Luzinski was the worst outfielder I ever saw, but he led the NL in fielding percentage for outfielders in 1973 (.993). Zeke Bonura was notorious for his immobility at first base, but he led the AL in fielding percentage in 1938 (.993).

  • @MichaelLabriola-f8s
    @MichaelLabriola-f8s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard Babe Herman was so bad his managers would yell at his team mates for making fun of him!😅😊

  • @Jay_Force_One
    @Jay_Force_One 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally someone to finally speak out on Derek Jeter being sub-par at defense. Jeter is a generational player, we all agree on that. However, his defense was not a hair above average if even that.
    It also doesn’t help that Jeter played in a time when Shortstop was full of defensive superstar Shortstops. Barry Larkin, Jimmie Rollins, Ozzie Smith (for a year or so), Edgar Renteria, Nomar Garciaparra….I mean the list goes on. Those are all legendary names. Hard to compete with that.

  • @doneliasson4672
    @doneliasson4672 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you think Derek Jeter is one of the worst fielders off all time is laughable. You obviously don't watch much baseball.

    • @alwillk
      @alwillk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You obviously are incapable of critical thinking.

    • @nickdileo9651
      @nickdileo9651 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ^ fact. This videos a joke

  • @travismcnamara8919
    @travismcnamara8919 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jeter should have played 2B, 3B, or LF. He would have been far more valuable by allowing himself to play where he belonged.

  • @roberthudson1959
    @roberthudson1959 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video demonstrates why the very thought of Jeter being a unanimous HOF selection almost put me in the hospital. Thankfully, a voter realized that Jeter's position required both offense and defense.

  • @patrickschmitz4586
    @patrickschmitz4586 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love how 3 of the first 4 players were all on the tigers at some point lol

  • @jarondelacruz4813
    @jarondelacruz4813 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude what a hot start to the video. I knew jeter would be here but not the very first guy LOL. Your cadence is also incredible you’re my new favorite channel

  • @Shinobi33
    @Shinobi33 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm sick of sabermetrics. For every sabermetric that says a player sucks at something there's another sabermetric that says he's great at that same exact thing.

  • @davidfeinberg7829
    @davidfeinberg7829 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Jeter made clutch plays. He rarely booted a ball in a clutch situation. He did all that was asked of him. Pitchers said they never worried when a ball was hit to short, especially in the late innings.

    • @SimonFoster23111971
      @SimonFoster23111971 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They only said that because they knew they'd be traded if they told the truth.

    • @davidfeinberg7829
      @davidfeinberg7829 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SimonFoster23111971 And you know that for a fact?

    • @SimonFoster23111971
      @SimonFoster23111971 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@davidfeinberg7829 Historically the worst SS in MLB history (and refused to play any other position in 2674 games apart from the 73 games at DH). Cost the Club at least 2 WS wins (played Gonzalez too shallow in Game 7 of the 01 WS. Booted a groundball in Game 6 from Jeff Conine in the 03 WS).
      If he held enough power over the Club for a better SS than him to play 3B, then you can bet that they were told "don't say anything about The Captain".

    • @davidfeinberg7829
      @davidfeinberg7829 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SimonFoster23111971 Torre wanted the infield in because Mariano might give up a weak grounder. He was playing where he was told. I get it, you didn’t like a guy who was as good a player one could find. Your opinion really doesn’t matter to Jeter. He made millions, won 5 rings and was 1 vote shy of unanimous election to the Hall of Fame. Sure, you matter.

    • @SimonFoster23111971
      @SimonFoster23111971 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@davidfeinberg7829 With one out and loaded bases, you get a Ground Ball and try for the Double Play, which means that he was out of position. Jeter sucked as a SS. There again, you're a homer for the Stripes, so why am I surprised that you throw someone else apart from you puppetmaster under the bus?

  • @HoosH_73
    @HoosH_73 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love my Yankees and grew up watching the Captain. But I have had multiple arguments with fellow Yanks fans that it was a CRIME to trade for ARod and stick him at 3rd.

  • @MichaelLabriola-f8s
    @MichaelLabriola-f8s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    " I'm not good at throwing."
    Jason giambi on why he over threw 2nd base.

  • @MichaelLabriola-f8s
    @MichaelLabriola-f8s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watching most MLB pitchers field is as painful as having watched them bunt! Horrible!😮

  • @Nick_Valentine2702
    @Nick_Valentine2702 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Jeter was actually an above average SS in the late 90’s and the early 2000’s but his defense regressed very quickly and they would have benefited from making him the DH and A-Rod the SS. Jeter had already established himself as a clutch hitter but if you look at the defensive highlights of Jeter and A-Rod at SS it’s clear A-Rod is better.

    • @apeters8
      @apeters8 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      His total zone values are all really bad in the late 90s and early 2000s too. I think he just did not have the range to be an okay shortstop.

    • @pwx13
      @pwx13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A rod shouldn't have been on the Yankees at all as he was hot garbage

    • @kendallevans4079
      @kendallevans4079 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was out there as long as he was because of Steinbrenner.

    • @pwx13
      @pwx13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @kendallevans4079 he won 5 titles, I don't care what little stats say. He accomplished something that is rare. He also has the 4th most homeruns in playoff history. If he played dh maybe his hitting would get worse. At the end of the day Jeter is the best short stop of all time

    • @alwillk
      @alwillk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      After 2000 he was last or second to last at SS in RF. He should have been on the corners but the Yankees were winning so much you could hide him. Once 2010 rolled around you could see how bad defensively he was at SS. Because the yanks stopped winning every year.

  • @willinnewhaven3285
    @willinnewhaven3285 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "The single worst defensive player" doesn't play Shortstop. Full stop.

  • @ihavesoul4real
    @ihavesoul4real 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need a clip on what trauma occurred in your life that makes you end sentences as if you’re trying to ask a question and declare a statement at the same time.

  • @willieburruss4562
    @willieburruss4562 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did you possibly miss Rusty Staub of the Detroit Tigers? Smartest thing manager Ralph Houk did was move him from RF to DH.

  • @CYMotorsport
    @CYMotorsport 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Calling Derek Jeter the worst defensive fielder ever is the same as calling Brett Favre the most inaccurate passer ever. Even your caveat re: accumulation isn’t enough. DWar had a defensive adjustment baked in.
    It’s the accumulation and aggregate totals of those specific stats cited that result in high totals stemming from the logical reasoning you include that got us here - which I 100% agree with. DRS is a measure that benchmarks other SS. Of course that looks worse for Jeter. He wasn’t even the best SS on his team for a chunk of his career.
    He indeed had terrible range BUT can you deny he had good hands? Just a slight statistical headwind on defensive categories compensated for others, as you said.

    • @alwillk
      @alwillk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jeter was fine if you hit the ball to him.
      Favre on the other hand turned the ball over too much, especially in clutch time when he didn’t need to be a hero. Which is why he only won one superbowl.

  • @FalloutboyGreenDay22
    @FalloutboyGreenDay22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not sure you’ll read or care, but you end almost every sentence with intonation rather than using it for more impactful statements, causing the dialogue to have a very rhythmic quality and not allowing the more interesting facts to stand out.

  • @thisguy8106
    @thisguy8106 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:54 the way dude says "54 errors" has me in legit tears 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

  • @ianc118
    @ianc118 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's funny how Manny Ramirez isn't even mentioned

    • @kendallevans4079
      @kendallevans4079 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right! Why does that guy have a spell on the media and sportscasters?

  • @stephenthompson3348
    @stephenthompson3348 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A 9 year 💰 214 million contract for fielder is exorbitant. MASSIVE OVERPAYMENT that boras came up with

  • @DanStack16
    @DanStack16 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think it is worth noting- Castellanos was much improved this past season. By no means was he good or even maybe average, but the analytics team in Philly really figured out where to position him to get the most out of what little defensive talent he has to bring him to probably just “below average” rather than “shockingly and historically terrible” to be frank as a fan I’d rather see Nick out there than Schwarber any day

  • @dkroll92
    @dkroll92 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cecil Fielder's dWAR was almost certainly lower *because* he spent time at DH, not in spite of it. The positional adjustment for dWAR gives a huge hit to DH that you have to be really, really bad at your position to cancel out. Looking at his baseball reference page, Cecil was worth -28 fielding runs over his 13 seasons, compared to -98 positional adjustment runs. On a rate basis, the combination of fielding and positional runs as a 1B is still better than the positional runs solely as a DH.
    But, maybe he would have gotten worse as a 1B if he'd been allowed to play more. Hard to say, since it didn't happen that way.

  • @benmuschol1445
    @benmuschol1445 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm all aboard the "derek jeter is a much worse defender than we realized" train but this is taking it to a level that's way too far lol:
    1. Defensive stats are not as solidified as you make them out to be. Defenders that DRS hates often end up being OAA darlings -- we're just not at a level of certainty where we can say his DRS numbers truly mean he was one of the worst shortstops of his era
    2. His DRS would likely be better earlier in his career, when he's younger and faster. We can't just assume he'd be accumulating more negative DRS in the years we don't have the stats for. It's actually just as likely the opposite: DRS *only existed* once the age curve started to hit him.
    3. Plenty of worse shortstops just never got the playing time bc they werent consistent hitters. DRS is a counting stat, so playing below average defense for 20 years is gonna make his DRS look way worse than it actually is. You acknowledge that playing time is why he was allowed to rack up bad defensive stats, but it what you're missing is that it's also part of the reason why he tops any of these lists to begin with.

  • @OH_MY_DOGGG
    @OH_MY_DOGGG 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And I thought Prince Fielder might be the Prince of Fielding or something. Pretty deceptive name.

  • @joebarr725
    @joebarr725 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The worst fielders are the full-time Designated Hitters who never put on a glove.

  • @8House
    @8House 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Derek Jeter reminds me of why I hate sabermetrics.

  • @jmu76featuring61
    @jmu76featuring61 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Moral of the story…every shortstop is better than jeter ..oh wait

  • @soulsunderseige4946
    @soulsunderseige4946 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You really don't know baseball if you're trying to call Jeter one of the worst fielders in history. I watched him his whole career and nothing could be further from the truth.

  • @HonkyTonkHellraiser
    @HonkyTonkHellraiser 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like to say that when I played as a young man I could play any position on the field but none of them well. I once lost a ground ball in the sun

  • @CC-rb1yf
    @CC-rb1yf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pedro Alvarez with Pirates was terrible at fielding 1st base. I was right behind 1st base dugout for a game and he mightve only had 1 error but at least 3 other times bobbled a ball

  • @jdarxk
    @jdarxk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dick Stuart - there's a reason he's called 'Dr. Strangeglove'

  • @peterkeleher
    @peterkeleher 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:28 this is comically bad - how does he lose balance 7 different ways?!

  • @Shortzy54
    @Shortzy54 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Someone hasnt watched Castellanos play the last two years....

  • @brendonroggendorf9534
    @brendonroggendorf9534 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This man trying to ruin my entire childhood putting Jeter on this list. lol.

  • @SimonFoster23111971
    @SimonFoster23111971 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    and yet we STILL see so many players commit errors that aren't registered as such by the Official Scorer ...

  • @johnharris6655
    @johnharris6655 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hard to believe but when Marcus Semien came up with the A's, he was a terrible fielder. Booting routine ground balls and making terrible throws to first.

  • @jmweed1861
    @jmweed1861 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is Marve Thornbury of the 1962 Mets or Dick Stuart of the Pirates? They has Iron hands...

  • @westcoastjohnny6606
    @westcoastjohnny6606 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your list punishes players for longevity

  • @jasonedwards5363
    @jasonedwards5363 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude, you're so wrong about jeter. He won 5 gold gloves. People without range don't win that award. So moronic.

  • @JahWontPayTheBill
    @JahWontPayTheBill หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jeter I’m the thumb nail right where he belongs. I’m happy to see people finally realizing he never deserved those Gold Gloves.
    He’s lucky he could hit. If not, he would have never been anything special.

  • @phreddphlintstone297
    @phreddphlintstone297 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most of these guys didn't have much of a defensive rep coming up from the minors, but Dante Bichette was a late inning defensive replacement for Reggie Jackson for his first few seasons with the Angels.

  • @MichaelLabriola-f8s
    @MichaelLabriola-f8s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Willie Mays was a failed short stop too!😮 " man the ball moves to fast man!" ❤# 24 forever!😅

  • @DrPlatypus1
    @DrPlatypus1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good god the inflections.

  • @PlanetPerxGaming
    @PlanetPerxGaming 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how 3 of your top 5 wore a tigers jersey at some point

  • @Electronicsflippa
    @Electronicsflippa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you're a great hitter they'll find a position for you despite a below average dwar.

  • @justinlast2lastharder749
    @justinlast2lastharder749 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate the Yankees. I grew up as a kid for Jeter's Yankees so learned to Specifically hate them...but Jeter's Defense goes far beyond his Stats. He had the Ability to Rise to make the Play when it mattered most. Thats why he was great. He may flub the odd ball here or there...but he Never flubbed the ones that mattered.

  • @keithb5434
    @keithb5434 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Castellanos didn't record an error last 2 seasons. Good enough for me, Rojas covers so much ground it makes up for it! Go Phillies.

    • @ThatBoyKlink
      @ThatBoyKlink 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imagine still valuing errors😂😂

    • @keithb5434
      @keithb5434 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThatBoyKlink lmao. he cranked 2 homers off of Strider to advances to NLCS. I wouldn't trade him for anyone atm.

  • @kramalerav
    @kramalerav 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jeter’s glove could be endorsed by U.S. Steel.

  • @garryharris3777
    @garryharris3777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dave Kingman was terrible at every position. Rico Carty lost many games with his glove. Matty Alou was the worst CF I can remember. Butch Hobson the worst 3B.

  • @hunterdempster5675
    @hunterdempster5675 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What song you use during the castellanos segment?

  • @ebonyknight5
    @ebonyknight5 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are we certain that Castellanos is not sight impaired???

  • @JDMatthias
    @JDMatthias 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ironic how two men named "Fielder" would only be known best for the batting skills.

  • @davidmatheny1993
    @davidmatheny1993 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    While his career numbers may not say worst fielder ever, Melky Cabrera made one of the worst throws I have ever seen. He spent one season in Atlanta and was atrocious at the plate already, so then one game he has to throw a ball that went over his head and bounced off the wall. Instead of heading towards home plate, Cabrera managed to throw the ball into RF.

  • @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507
    @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This isn't complete without Manny, left field Hanley or Johny Damon's arm😂 entertaining blooper reel of epic proportions

    • @OH_MY_DOGGG
      @OH_MY_DOGGG 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was at the game Hanley got hurt although I was seated down the right field line.

    • @benjii220
      @benjii220 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Manny wasn't THAT bad. He was below average.
      He just had a few hilarious blunders, but day to day, he was fine. He didn't DH.

    • @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507
      @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@benjii220 Manny was a hilarious blunder machine out there, he got hidden a lot of the time bc of the monster helping him get to balls, but when he made an error it was typically the worst error imaginable😂

    • @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507
      @ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@benjii220 and he didn't dh bc papi was even worse lmao

    • @nobeardthepirate9172
      @nobeardthepirate9172 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507Manny is the only player to accomplish the fan high five double play. +300DWAR

  • @TheSkyline5467
    @TheSkyline5467 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let me correct you. There's no comparison between a basketball foul and a MLB error.

  • @pukulu
    @pukulu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Several very large former baseball players were poor fielders. Adam Dunn was one of them. In his worst fielding individual season he had a defensive WAR of -5.2. I'm sure that there are worse but that's truly awful.

  • @scrubadiver
    @scrubadiver 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Believe it or not, but Prince Fielder was the best and the worst Fielder since his father.

  • @Notjackpausner
    @Notjackpausner 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where is the whole Red Sox team at?

  • @bpalt1
    @bpalt1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best part of Sheffield? Trying to later tell people he made errors on purpose to force a trade out of Milwaukee.....😂😂😂

  • @chrisbergonzi7977
    @chrisbergonzi7977 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Manny Ramirez? Jose Canseco?

  • @mungweasel4963
    @mungweasel4963 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I watched Hanley Ramirez play SS for the Dodgers in 2014 and lost count of how many crooked throws he made to first base.

    • @aaroncook2052
      @aaroncook2052 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Didn't he blow what should have been a perfect game for Kershaw?

    • @mungweasel4963
      @mungweasel4963 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @aaroncook2052 he sure did.

  • @ChiknNugg3s
    @ChiknNugg3s 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kevin was an absolute pleasure to watch in CF! Between KK, Varsho, and Springer, I felt like we got to see a fantastic defense play out there every night.

  • @Matt_237
    @Matt_237 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nick got much better since the Phils shaded him and had him run to the ball instead of backward. Learn the game, not old stats.

  • @LancasterResponding
    @LancasterResponding 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a Phillies fan good defense is for chumps.