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Seriously! PLEASE check out the show Transformers: Prime from 2010. If you like Star Wars: The Clone Wars, you'll love Transformers: Prime!
You should react to optimus prime vs gundam by death battle. Since you have watched all of the films, it would be nice to watch some transformers content from fans and other videos.
Now you gotta watch the G.I. Joe the movie, from 1987
Needed to see G1 first 2 seasons before this.
Ratchet was the white autobot that was killed by Megatron next to Ironhide.
This film bridges the gap between seasons 2 and 3 of the G1 series. Transformers was my number 1 show/toy as a kid. It was pretty rough watching this film back in the day and seeing so many of my favorite characters killed off.
For many of us gen-xers, THIS is our Transformers movie.
Yes, I was just old enough to get dropped off for 5pm show the week it came out. There was almost nobody in there. It was so great.
I'm that one weird guy who has so much love for G1 (was born in 1981 so...yeah) and grew up with it but also loves most of the live action films too. Yes, they're not quite what we grew up with but I think Transformers 2007, Transformers Dark of the Moon and Age of Extinction are just a blast. Revenge of the Fallen is just OK but with some standout sequences. The Last Knight really is garbage though. Beautiful effects work. Awesome score. But the movie is so bad it seemed made to fail. Bumblebee and the 1986 animated film are great too. I'm sure I'll dig Rise of the Beasts as well..
The BEST Transformers movie hands down - fellow gen xer; this one was actually about the robots and not centered around humans. It was so hard seeing favorites pass but such an amazing movie, I still remember mom taking me to see it in the theater and I was begging her to stay through the double feature so we could watch it again
Word. Thankfully they did bring Prime back. (And Starscreams dumbass later resurrected by Unicron.)
Galvatron was voiced by Leonard Nimoy, a.k.a. Spock from Star Trek. Add in the final performance of Orson Welles, and the BEST soundtrack ever, this film SLAPS!
Nimoy voices another villain from the TF movies too, Sentinel Prime from Dark of the Moon.
You heard the Cybertronic Spree's Transformers 86? Hell of a cover album
@@MFSeaMen Yes, I like them. Their Cybertronic Warrior video is awesome.
@@darrenbent7601 you heard the new album? I was a Kickstarter backer, think it's getting released publicly end of August, it rocks
Ultra Magnus voice was Robert Stack from Unsolved Mysteries
My OG as I'm 46 and still my favorite. In theaters back then, kids were crying all night. I'll never forget it.
I was one of them.
I was wrecked!
After watching Transformers as a kid then going to the theaters to see Optimus Prime die wrecked me. 😢
I heard it was brutal when Starscream and Megatron killed off most of the Autobots in the first five minutes. That's a massacre. I didn't get into Transformers until 1993 when it aired on the Sci-Fi channel.
You asked about Ratchet, he was on the shuttle the the beginning with Ironhide and got iced with the others. This movie was a mechanical bloodbath. I saw it in the theaters as a kid and loved it but absolutely shocked everyone, lots of parents were pissed because prior to this, animated movies were almost always G rated and didn't get anywhere near the level this movie was on.
I appreciated it. It gave the movie a sense of stakes that the daily cartoons didn't have.
You mean, "Oilbath"... right? Or maybe, "Energonbath"?
I saw it in the theater when I was 10 and I cried, but I also went back a half dozen times to watch it again. As much as people decry to death of Optimus Prime and other characters, it wouldn't be half the movie with out this.
This was legendary actor Orson Welles last film. He died in 1985, a year before the movie's release. He voiced Unicron, and had spent most of the voice recording in a wheelchair as he was morbidly obese and barely walked.
I heard that on his death bed he said in an interview that he did a movie where action figures were trying to kill one another he had no idea why.
Thought he was great as unicorn because he same to have that indifferent I been alive for so long I don't care anymore tone in his voice. It work for me
Rest In Piece
Some people talk crap about his last movie, but ......... THIS, this movie is still memorable decades later. His final movie role is still talked about to this day, and an entire generation was introduced to this legendary actor through his final film. Orson Welles ended his career with a truly iconic role, even when phoning it in and joking about it.
@@TheTitandog70Rosebud?
BTW - Unicron is voiced by Orson Wells. This was his last bow, he died shortly after this. Wells is well known for acting and voicing and is the man who's radio show gave the War of the Wolds radio scare
Fun fact: starscream isnt actually dead, hes physically been destroyed but his spark is indestructible
Made for an interesting couple post-movie episodes of the G1 cartoon as well as one of the best moments in the Beast Wars series.
Starscreams ghost episodes where some of my favourites in season 3
Starscream is a sprite of spite😂
Unicron was the last role of famous Actor/Director Orson Welles (Citizen Kane). Infact, he was very ill while recording his lines and would die only five days later. Plus, judged from an interview he made, he seemed quite bemused about having played a "Toy" and didn't really care all that much. And, strangely, both things work for the Character of Unicron: His illness and his attitude made him sound bored, aloof and apathetic... which is just the state of mind an all-powerful and ancient Entity such as Unicron should have, in my opinion. Many consider Welles to be the best Voice the Character ever had.
Speaking of Voice Actors, Galvatron was played by Leonard Nimoy (Spock himself), who would go on to play Sentinel Prime in "Dark of the Moon" much later.
RIP to both of them
Also the last time Scatman Cothers voiced Jazz and Casey Kasum voicing Cliffjumper. R.I.P. to them as well
Also Robert Stack as Ultra Magnus
On the subject of Sentinel Prime being played by Nimoy - did you notice that when Sentinel/Nimoy (aka Galvatron) shot Ironhide, he disintegrated just like Starscream did when Galvatron shot him in the movie? Nice little nod to Nimoy Galvatron from 1986 :)
As a young Transformers fanatic, this movie was such an emotional labor. Even though we only had 2 years with the G1 characters, for a 7 year old kid who played with the toys almost every day, it was an era. I LOVED those characters. To watch my favorites get killed was shocking and heartbreaking. First Braun in the shuttle, then you can see Wheeljack's grey corpse being dragged inside during the battle at Autobot city, then Prime. It was a lot. Still loved and continue to love the movie though. Hot Rod was not a "Prime" before he opened the matrix, it turned him into one. The old cartoons go into some early lore stuff too. It's great stuff.
The Matrix turned him into a Prime and then he opened it.
I really liked iron hide and starscream,shame they died in this film.
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Hasbro killed them to make room for the new toys. Cartoons purpose ws to sell toys
There is another voice for Optimus Prime, actually. His name is Gary Chalk. He started as Optimus Primal in the Beast Wars series, but when subsequent Transformers series brought back Optimus Prime, Gary voiced him too. As someone who arrive in this world too late for G1, Gary is my childhood's voice for Optimus. He's practically as iconic as Peter now, and RotB did him a great disservice by going with Ron Pearlman.
While I agree, isn't Garry Chalk deceased?
EDIT: Nevermind, I'm just gonna shut up.
@@shady_the_oneno he's old now though
I don't even remember Prime having speaking lines in Beast Wars and you're saying he's iconic for them?
@@Masteroftheweb Optimus primal not prime
@@r.m.9370 Well... no... Prime, but I misread the original message. He was Prime "subsequent" shows
This is still way better than anything Bay did, by far. I was already a fan of the franchise well before this movie came out, but the death of Optimus Prime still traumatises me to this day.
your opinion. I rather watch the first 3 movies over this one
@@tmac731 Drugs. You're on the good stuff too.
@@shinre nope.
@@tmac731Agree lol. G1 fans gotta accept there are different opinions.
@@ix-badsport-xix7433 right . The Michael bay movies are responsible for a whole generation of transformers fans
i'm 40. seeing prime die was so traumatic for me as a kid that i wouldn't watch this movie against until i was in my 20s. prime was more than just a cartoon character. he was a hero, a iconic to kids like me. he was a role model. hasbro didn't understand it. this whole movie was about getting rid of the older toys to make room for the newer ones. prime's death caused such a backlash from parents and kids, that hasbro had to change up "gi joe: the movie" which came out later. in it, duke was suppose to die but they changed it so that he lived.
as for prime, he would return at the end of season 3. mainly because rodimus wasn't as well loved as optimus. he wasn't even that good of a leader: he would either make a terrible choice, expressed his desire to be a leader or complained about how he couldn't live up to the greatness of optimus prime.
I was 19 when this movie came out, and I saw it in theaters.
To your point about Rodimus.... the fan reaction is accurate, but look at it from his perspective: It's not easy living up to the expectations of a legend like Optimus. Those of us who watched the series, know his origin story. How he was rebuilt to become Optimus Prime. It wasn't something he was "born into" either. Rodimus wasn't given a good enough story for the fans, but most were expecting him to just "rise to the challenge". Even Optimus took time to solidify into who he became.... and Rodimus just wasn't given that kind of time.
I own the entire series on DVD, and revisit it at least once a year. The movie...... I watch that several times a year.... the soundtrack..... Oh, that's a regular on my playlists!
I've only seen the 1980s Transformers movie once. I still love it. And yeah, Unicron's voice actor nailed the kind of personality a being such as Unicron should have. Unicron sounds aloof, emotionless, and unsympathetic. Fitting given he's the literal Galactus of the Transformers series.
This was orson well's last performance,it's cool he got to play a Giant robot planet.
God bless Orson Welles
It was Orson Welles, who died 5 days after finishing the recordings for Unicron. The lines were near unsalvageable, and that's why Unicron's voice is somewhat hard to understand.
Oh man! This movie was my childhood. I have the new 4K release on my shelf right now. Great action! Great dialog! Great music! Great movie! (Also Orson Welles haha)
Ratchet was the white Autobot that got taken out with Ironhide (their toys were basically variations on the same van mold so Ratchet was an ambulance).
Yup, the movie that scarred quite a few kids. I remember being so hyped to see this in theaters as a kid. It wasn't until much later that I found out that the reason so many Transformers were killed off was just because they wanted to clear the way for the new line of toys coming out. So the creators only thought about the cartoon as a way to sell the newest action figures but didn't realize that kids had actually grown personally attached to the characters. It wasn't just a transforming truck, that was Optimus Prime! They got a lot of flack for it to the point where when they were going to do the same thing in the G.I. Joe movie which was already in production, they had to make a last minute change in voice over so a character was "unconscious" instead of dead.
You can’t go more 80s than this movie!
And the Intro, with Unicron devouring Lithone, is the stuff of child-traumatizing nightmares, if you think about it. He stopped for a snack and casually committed genocide in the process.
This movie started out so great, it was just like the show that we all loved. Then they killed off all our favorite characters! Hasbro wanted to introduce a new line of Transformers and they used the movie to do that but it was a huge mistake to kill all of the already popular characters.
The first 2 films that blew me away as a kid: "The Empire Strikes Back" & "Transformers (The Movie) 1986. Lighting in a bottle!
12:29 Ratchet was killed when the decepticons attacked the shuttle.. he died right after prowl and had the dual pistols, it was Perceptor examining Prime
It's 1986 and i'm 13. I've just walked out of the cinema and both feeling a little welled up and shocked after seeing this movie. For those of us who had been watching since the TV show first aired, this movie was like a glorious emotional bookend. Suddenly one of my old Fav TV shows was legit, more than just a toy thing. But equally the death of characters i had known and loved was kind of a childhood's end. After watching a couple of the new season with these new characters, it just wasn't the same after the high point of this movie. This movie IMO is why they made the live action versions.
Yeah, it was really a weird storm of unforseen circumstances. Hasbro had no idea what they had or the impact Transformers had on kids in the 80's. They hadn't produced an Optimus Prime toy in over 2 years by the time the movie came out and their plan was to wipe out the core cast to introduce a whole new line of toys. It was a bold move that made 'Transformers the Movie' go down in history as both an emotional gut punch for TF fans but also generated such a backlash that they pretty much had to bring Optimus back in the following seasons. It was very much like for Star Trek fans and Spock in 'The Wrath of Khan' and ended up bringing him back in the 3rd movie.
The thing is this movie is in between the G1 tv series. This is Peter Cullen’s first time voicing Optimus Prime. When he auditioned he remembered his brother who was a veteran and a strong leader so he mimicked his brothers voice.
Ok just to clarify this MOVIE is not Cullen’s first time voicing Prime, he was the voice of Prime since the first episode of the tv cartoon series, but yea the story about his audition and brother’s influence is something Peter Cullen has related quite often “be strong enough to be gentle” I think was the advice his brother gave him.
I highly recommend ItsAPrimate watch the show Tranformers Prime. It is easily the best transformers show and one of the best shows of the Cartoon Network era! It’s not linked to the this movie, or the bay films for that matter, but it has really good worldbuilding, characters and fights. The animation is a little janky at first but gets better throughout the 3 seasons, and concludes with an epic movie of its on. Definitely worth a watch and enjoyed the video!
I love the story that they had NO clue how the death of Optimus was going to affect audiences. They were just like "okay here's the next wave of toys kids!" Then they traumatized a whole generation and were like "oh, we fucked up".
Fun fact, the audience reaction to the death of Optimus Prime caused them to cancel the death of Duke in the G.I. Joe movie (he fell into a 'coma' instead, and there was a throwaway line at the end that "Duke's Ok!")
@@VME-Brad There was a commentery on one of the DVD or Blurays where the writers were like "bullshit, Duke is dead". They even wrote a funeral scene.
@@VME-Brad When I first saw the GI Joe movie when I was a kid, I didn't know what a coma was. I figured it was like pre-cursor to death because dude was impaled through the heart with a venomous snake. I assumed he was dead until that throwaway line.
I remember crying when i was a kid when prime died. They had to do a special later on to bring him back because of the uproar. Still remains one of my all time favourite films
The soundtrack to this movie is an absolute banger. It's just pure 80s cheesy goodness
To put it into a nutshell as best as possible: Transformers has MULTIPLE universes and continuities, basically, every new toyline is its own world, G1 was the first, then Beast Wars, the Robots in Disguise (2001), then the Unicron Trilogy (Armada, Energon and Cybertron), then the Bay universe, then Transformers Animated, then Transformers Prime, then the rebooted movie universe (Bumblebee and Rise of the Beasts), then Cyberverse and then Earthspark...and that's just the main continuities that were released worldwide.
Oh if there's a Tranformers show you should check out its fs TF Prime imo. Great storytelling plus it's also kinda inspired by the Bayverse.
"Prime!"
"One shall stand, one shall fall."
"Why throw away your life so recklessly?"
"That's a question you should ask yourself, Megatron."
Fun Fact: The Blu-Ray special edition of this movie features an audio commentary by Nelson Shin (director), Flint Dille (story consultant), and Susan Blu (voice of Arcee).
Final Bow Fact: This was Orson Welles' final film before his death on October 10, 1985 at the age of 70. He recorded his lines five days prior, on October 5. This was Scatman Crothers' final film before his death on November 22, 1986 at age 76.
Final Countdown Fact: At the movie's beginning, when the Autobots are taking off on their ship, Optimus Prime (Peter Cullen) orders Cliffjumper for a countdown. Cliffjumper was voiced by Casey Kasem, who was the host of America's Top 40 Countdown for many years. This was obviously a little joke added by the writers, considering we didn't need to hear a shuttle countdown, and any character could have done this.
Arcee's Journey Facts: One of the original demands of the Transformers toyline and cartoon series was that no female Transformers could appear, as the toys were marketed strictly towards boys. However, writer Ron Friedman fought hard to include female robots in the Transformers lore, as his daughter was a huge fan of the franchise. This led to the creation of Arcee (Susan Blu), a female Autobot debuting in this movie, as well as a number of other female characters introduced during season 2 of The Transformers (1984). Ironically, despite being one of the movie's feature characters, no toy of Arcee was produced during the entirety of the original Transformers line, though at least one rejected prototype was designed. Arcee became the most famous female character in the Transformers brand and numerous incarnations of her appeared in various other cartoons, comics, movies and toy series, but it was only in 2014, 28 years after her introduction, that Hasbro finally released a toy based on this movie's design.
And it was only recently surpassed in 2022, with the Studio Series line, a line meant to make screen accurate transformers, and later included this movie as well.
After this movie, watch Bumblebee again. there is a scene that hits different. It's the one on the cliff where she is challenged in diving. These last 2 movies have really gave me the feels alot more than any other previous version.
As many others have written before, this movie in G1 is unreal and came out after the second season and many children left the theater crying when many of their favorite characters died in this movie,
These are the ones I remember who died in the movie:
Brawn - Shot in the shoulder by Starcream using Megatron's blaster mode. Shared Kill.
Prowl - Shot in the chest by Scavenger.
Ratchet - Shot repeatedly in the chest by Starcream using Megatron's blaster mode. Shared Kill.
Ironhide - Shot in the face by Megatron with the fusion cannon.
Wheeljack - Killed off-screen in the battle of Autobot city, body seen.
Windcharger - Killed off-screen in the battle of Autobot city, body seen.
Optimus Prime - Succumbed to his injuries after being shot in the chest multiple times by Megatron. Revived in Season 3 of the G1 show.
Skywarp - Thrown into space by the decepticons and died of his injuries from the battle of Autobot city. Body later used to either create Cyclonus or his armada.
Thundercracker - Thrown into space by the decepticons and died of his injuries from the battle of Autobot city. Body later used to create Scourge.
Shrapnel - Thrown into space by the decepticons and died of his injuries from the battle of Autobot city. Body later used to create a Sweep.
Bombshell - Thrown into space by the decepticons and died of his injuries from the battle of Autobot city. Body later used to either create Cyclonus or his armada.
Kickback - Thrown into space by the decepticons and died of his injuries from the battle of Autobot city. Body later used to create a Sweep.
Megatron - Body destroyed by Unicron to create Galvatron. Revived as Galvatron.
Starscream - Disintegrated when Galvatron shot him with the particle cannon. ( later Revived as a ghost)
80s Transformers was some of my earliest memories. This movie is pure nostalgia. The soundtrack is one of the best. It got me into 80s music and hair metal.
One thing about the Megatron the toy back in 1984 . I remember one of my classmates brought him to school he was so convincing in his gun mode he got suspended because the teacher thought Megatron was a real gun. Yes Megatron looked that real in gun mode 😮
Megs was the reason all came guns in the US have to have neon orange on them, especially on or around the opening of the barrel. I still remember when Hasbro first released the toy line, our local flea market was carrying the original Japanese toys for mere dollars (most no one at the time knew the true origins of the toys) God I wish I had bought them! The original gun that became Megs even came with a silencer! Lol talk about too realistic.
Imma say it.
Hats off in respect to two late and great VAs of this film.
Orson Welles (Unicron) look him up.
Leonard Nemoy (Galvatron) also renouned for his voice over work with national geographic, and for playing another favorite alien(technically half alien) Spock, from TV's Star trek.
Unicron is so OP because originally he was written as one of the two originator Gods of the Transformers universe. Him and Primus got imprisoned in asteroids and learned to use their powers to turn the asteroids into mechanical body, one becoming Unicron and the other Cybertron. Primus is the creator of the transformers.
The continuity changed a bit for the show and they made the Quintessons the transformer race's creators, but Unicron kept his ultra-powerful-arch-enemy persona.
One of the greatest music videos of the 80s right here :D
Could you imagine this movie being made today with modern animation quality? Like picture this with Gundam Witch From Mercury levels of animation. It would go CRAZY.
This movie introduced a WHOLE NEW bunch of lore into the '80s Transformers cartoon, because the guy who wrote it just read a whole bunch of the comic books to better understand the IP. He was clueless that the cartoon and the comic book are two entirely different continuities.
Ratchet was the white Autobot that died next to Ironhie at the movie's beginning.
If you want to talk about the 80s design choices, then we need to talk about the origins of Transformers. Transformers started, believe it or not, with Barbie. When Mattel launched Barbie, with her collection of different outfits, it was a smashing success and Hasbro took note of it. Rather than merely launching a direct competitor, Hasbro decided to tap into a different maket to girls - young boys. They launched the original G.I. JOE line and it was such a smashing success that it was licensed to multiple countries. One of those countries was Japan, where it was released under the name of Combat Joe.
After a while Takara decided to tweak the concept with their own spinoff line, called Cyborg Henshin ("Transforming Cyborg"), which were 12" figures with interchangeable parts. However one issue which soon came up was that with Japanese households tending to be a bit smaller than US households, 12" figures weren't as practical. And so in 1974 Microman was born (and if you're wondering, it was released in the USA in the 1980s as the Micronauts). These o-ring design figures would ultimately also heavily inspire the base design for not only G.I. JOE ARAH figures, but most 3.75" figures in the 1980s.
However when 1980 was about to roll around, there was a concern that the line was becoming stale and was in trouble. There was too much lore for newer fans to easily jump onto the franchise with and older fans wanted something new. And so the decision was made to reboot Microman. The figures would now be 1:1 scale, the battleground would be a child's bedroom, where they disguised themselves as his toys, and their enemies would be the malevolent aliens, the Acroyears.
At the same time, Takara launched a sibling toy line: Diaclone. Diaclone was a 1:60 scale toyline featuring piloted mecha, where Earth valiantly fought off the evil Waruderer aliens. It was around this time that one of the designers of the Diaclone toys claimed he could make a jet toy that converted to a toy robot, without the use of removeable parts. When no one believed him, he proved them wrong, by making his design using pieces of folded cardboard. That designer was Shoji Kawamori and that design was what we now know as the VF-1 Valkyrie from Macross, otherwise known as the original Veritech fighter from Robotech.
Within a year, history would be made when this line created what would later become the first Transformers figures ever made - the Powerdashers (those mailaway figures in the 1984/1985 catalog). Within months however this would result in something even more profound - with the creation and launch of the Car Robots sub-line of Diaclone, in 1982. If you're thinking that these wound up being the Autobot Cars when later on in Transformers, you'd be absolutely correct.
The line would continue to expand and from 1983 onwards, the more scifi and futuristic mecha toys had been largely abandoned, in favour of the notion of Diaclone toys being piloted robots that disguised themselves as jets, cars or other vehicles for the most part - with 2 notable exceptions being giant robotic insects and robotic dinosaurs. An interesting thing to note as well is that the Car Robot who turned into a Freightliner, had its trailer treated like mission specific equipment - one configuration had it equipped with a box trailer that converted into a mobile outpost, while the other had it equipped with a car carrier trailer that turned into additonal power armour which it could combine with. If you think Optimus Prime (aka Convoy in Japan or Battle Convoy in Diaclone) and Ultra Magnus (aka Powered Convoy in Diaclone), look incredibly similar, that's why.
At the same time, in 1983, the Microman reboot had proven successful enough that they expanded the franchise with the Microchange subline. This featured regular houshold items, such as cameras, binoculars, padlocks, tape players, cassettes and even guns (such as a certain Walther P-38), which turnedi nto auxiliary robot partners to help fight alongside the Micromen. Additionally, the accessories for the P-38 turned into a cannon emplacement which could be manned by a Microman, while the microscope tunred into a tank which could be piloted by a Microman. Most interesting of all is that the microcassette boombox was not only a working radio, by way of a tuner block disguised as a microcassette, but that its rifle was designed to combine with the 2.5mm plug crystal radio earpiece it came with.
1983 would also be when the fateful 1983 Tokyo Toy Show took plce. Hasbro had gone there to look at a particular remote control car which Takara was selling and they were looking to license. However when Hasbro got there, they got toy robot fever, given that the converting toy robot craze was sweeping the nation at that time. Instead of the remote control car, what they came back with was a plan to rebrand and license Diaclone and Microchange figures into a new property. By that time, Kawamori had moved onto Takatoku toys, who in addition to being the original manufacturers of Macross toys, produced 2 other pertinent toy lines - Dorvack and Beetras. When Hasbro went to pad out the line, they also acquired the rights to release these toys as part of the Transformers toyline. These would be joined by Gunborg - a futuristic black gun (which was produced by Toyco and who would be recoloured purple as a Transformer) and Mechabot-1, which was a mosotised tank and rocket launch station, produced by Toybox.
At the same time, Takara licensed Diaclone and Microman to multiple different countries, where the line was sold under different names - the most interesting of these being Trasformer, by an Italian toy company called GiG.
When Tonka caught wind of this, they tried beating Hasbro to the punch and acquired the rights to release Bandai's Machine Robo toyline in the USA, rebranding the line into Gobots/Machine Men.
At the same time, Takatoku was forced to file for bankruptcy. While Hasbro retained the rights to release Takatoku's toy designs, they were unable to use those likenesses in the animated series. That's why Jetfire, who was renamed Skyfire in the Animated series, looks nothing like a Valkyrie. It's also most likely why the Delue Insecticons and Deluxe Autobots never appeared in the cartoon.
There were some other interesting decisions at play, which meant that some interesting designs simply weren't released as Transformers. Hasbro decided early on that the Autobots would turn into cars, while the Decepticons would turn into devices and millitary hardware. Oh and the reason why Megatron and Optimus were chosen as the leaders, is because their toys happened to be the exact same height. To skirt around regulations, the comic was based on the toyline, while the animated series was based on the comic. When the animated series was created, designer Floro Dery took several creative licenses, with these designs - hence why some figures look nothing like the toys.
Hopefully this gives you an idea for why the cartoon looks how it does and a springboard to explore further. In fact there are plenty of srtop motion animation toy commercials for Diaclone and Microman toys on TH-cam which are pretty easy to find.
Transformers Prime is the best continuity outside of the original series imo. Peter Cullen & Frank Walker both return as Prime & Megatron like they did in the live action movies as well. In fact it’s the only animated series with their original voice actors returning outside of the original
To add even more context, this movie is set right after the end of Transformers G1 Season 2, just before Season 3 starts and during Season 1 and Season 2, not a single Transformer was killed. Yes, they got injured or taken out of action, but they were always brought back quickly.
So, in this movie they really killed off sooo many characters (I think the police car Prowl was the first to go, and Ironhide soon after). So this movie was a HUGE deal to the fans... massive, massive deal. When Optimus bit the dust we all lost our freakin minds! We were in denial as well, expecting him to come back.
Alas no..... however they did bring him back during Season 3 of G1.
I recently discovered all the G1 episodes on the Hasbro channel on TH-cam, on here for free. So you might like watching those too (as I am).
For a series to react to on the channel, Transformers Prime is definitely the best one to watch. It's got good animation, voice acting, writing, and it's a solid re-interpretation of concepts and ideas in the franchise. It's a good gateway into more Transformers content. Certain shows like Beast Wars, Armada, and Animated will be some other people's cups of tea, but for the channel, I'd definitely say go for either G1 or Prime.
2nd the up-vote for TF Prime. Also got to mention how great that voice cast is - Peter Cullen (original Optimus), Frank Welker (original Megatron), Clancy Brown, Ernie Hudson, Jeffrey Combs, Michael Freaking Ironside. Even the human characters aren't overly annoying, very well done series.
Agreed, those are the best entry level series.
Mel Brooks took his kids to see this film, saw fully transformed Unicorn, and got the idea for the movie Mega Maid in Spaceballs.
DUDE!!! I was a child when this movie came out, and seeing all the DEATHS!!!! THIS MOVIE was near a HORROR film level! I grew up watching them survive "worse" fights for 2 seasons, kind of wish you watched the first 2 sessions of G1 before this movie, the feels are real.
This was strangely wholesome seeing someone reacting to this movie for the first time, me having watched int 5000 times 🤣. But oh boy did I feel it when you were like "I can't handle Ironhide dying twice."
Anyway, hope no one gives you too much crap for enjoying the Bay movies. Everyone has to start somewhere, and it's unrealistic to believe you can only be a fan if you watched it almost 40 years ago at this point. I hope you explore more iterations and enjoy yourself!
It's not just Unicron that transforms like that.
Cybertron can too. Only it shut itself down to hide from Unicron. You have 40 years of lore to catch up on and as a fan since 1984 i envy you...
unicron is basically this universes version of the devil. he and primus (the core of cybertron) are brothers from the dawn on the universe.
Ratchet was the other autobot died at the same time as ironhide. The two autobots that died before them was Brawn and Prowl.
There are so many different transformers continuities, man. G1 and Beast Wars together are their own thing, each individual comic run (of which there have been dozens) is it's own thing, Prime, Animated, Bayverse, new live action, etc.
I've watched this movie so many times since I was a kid. The best one was when I got to actually go see it in a theater when they did a limited theatrical re-release for it's 35th anniversary.
There is an episode that bridges in season 2 to the movie its called "Scramble City" its an early take on combiner wars but shows why the Autobots are on the moon bases . the episode is Japanese but can be found on TH-cam with English over dub.
This movie takes place between seasons 2 & 3 of gen 1.
The series that started in 1984 is connected to this movie as it bridges the gap seasons 2 & 3.
This is part of the G1 series between season 2 and season 3.
Transformers Prime is its own thing. It was conceived of as an aligned continuity so it draws elements from G1, the Bay.movies and everything in between to create a reboot.
Generally speaking, each iteration of Transformers is a reboot to some degree.
Though G1 (cartoon and comic book), G2 (comic book), Beast Wars (cartoon) and Beast Machines (cartoon) are all in the same continuity.
Springer is a triple changer. He can transform into a car, a helicopter and a robot.
Hotrod becomes Rodimus Prime at the end of the movie. Michael Bay does a lot of name drop characters so the robot in TLK is Hotrod only by name.
Fun fact: if you play a drinking game with this movie and drink/take a shot every time "daniel " says look
Ratchet was the white Autobot on the shuttle. I feel he was killed then because he would have probably been able to save Optimus whereas Perceptor isn't a 'medical type'.
Prime is simply the surname of the Autobot leader in the original cartoon canon.
Your actually right about making deal with the devil because Unicorn is considered the devil of the transformers. Rodimus was least popular amongst fans.
You'll see Unicorn again in full action in Transformers Armada Energon amd Prime series. In g1 post film and beast wars he makes a cameo.
This film was released between season 2 and season 3 of the series.
And I think the matrix of leadership was in the second or third Bay film.
Ratchet was killed alongside ironhide. Perceptor was examining optimus
In the comics the Matrix contains the essence of Primus, who is secretly planet Cybertron and is brother to Unicron, which is why the Matrix is the only thing that can stand in his way. In the cartoons, the Matrix contains knowledge passed down from all Autobots and is kept safe by a Prime or whoever a Prime gives it to, a source of power to be unleashed in dire times.
Funny how you say that Ultra Magnus looks like Optimus Prime. The original G1 Ultra Magnus toy is literally a repainted white and blue version of the Optimus Prime toy, with a blue, white, and red plastic “armor” made from his truck mode’s trailer that transforms around him.
His name in the original, pre-Transformers japanese toyline also connects him to OP. Prime’s name in Japan? Convoy. Ultra Magnus’s name in Japan? Powered Convoy.
Saw this when I was 11 y/o. Only movie in my childhood that made me cry.
maybe react to the transformers prime series? it's pretty good from what i remember.
My friend had the Unicron toy. It was like a while play set.
Tomorrow is the end of one of the best series ever 😢
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I own this movie on VHS, DVD and Blu-ray. I know every line of dialogue back to front and I'm pretty sure (thanks to my copy of the soundtrack on CD) that I know all of the words to every song.
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Hilariously all the character deaths in this movie were actually done for rather cynical reasons. Their toys were discontinued and they were just killed to get them out of the way for the new characters introduced in the movie (and their subsequent new toys)
This movie connects Seasons 2 and seasons 3 of the original G1 series. The death of Optimus was a HUGE thing that left many of us kids crying in the theaters and mothers got super upset with the studio for upsetting their children by killing off their hero. This was such a big event that the GI Joe movie (cartoon) that was in production was changed to put Duke in a coma instead of kill him off as written in the original script. It was shortly after announced that Optimus would return in the future and they put a disclaimer / video at the front of the movie in foreign markets to help clam the children. We spent 2 seasons (nearly 100 episodes) with Optimus as the new transformers were introduced. The removal of Optimus and Megatron and a list of these 'new' characters introduced in this movie was just a marketing deal to sell new toys.. the toy company didn't realize how impactful this would be or how much we, the children, loved the personality of these toys from the cartoon. You can't give us nearly 100 episodes getting to know all these characters and their personalities just to wipe the slate clean with new characters and kill off Ironhide, Prime, Megatron, ect, ect, ect. it was ... wild.
Optimus, Magnus (if temporarily), Ironhide, Ratchet, Brawn, Prowl, Wheeljack, Windcharger, Megatron, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Shrapnel, Bombshell, Kickback, Starscream, and apparently Shockwave (according to the wiki) all died. It was a bloodbath for kids our age. Even if the reasoning was to bring in a new lineup of toys, they still told a compelling story.
I will never forgive what Michael Bay did to Grimlock and Devestator.
This movie is 100% a G1 movie. They did 2 more seasons with Rodimus Prime as the leader after this movie. Season 3 is where you start to really learn about the Primes and more about the matrix since it was introduced in the movie. You also learn more about the squid boys and how they play into it all. I won't spoil it.
Unfortunately the writing and animation quality went downhill in the third season.
@justinarzola4584 not to mention Galvatrons voice actor. I forget if it was Frank Welker or not but he sounded like starscream but WAY worse lol.
Ratchet is the white autobot next to ironhide on the shuttle. He died....
The peak of the Transformers universe. Til all are One!
Ratchet looks like a white ironhide. He died on the shuttle early in the film
IMO Unicron had a better transformation sequence in Armada. You got little hints of what was happening but it wasn't until 20 minutes after it started that you saw the reveal.
Unicron is straight-up impossible to defeat because he's the embodiment of chaos. You kill him and the universe has no more chaos, so it falls into entropy (basically the universe throws an error message & starts deleting itself).
Ratchet was the white ambulance 🚑 that was on the ship when megaton shot them. Remember this movie is reason we wanted to see it in live action. Spike is the Micheal bay Sam they just changed his name.
You think Ultra Magnus looks like Prime in this movie? You should see him out of his blue armour. Dude is basically Primes twin but painted white
Plus the scene where they kill ultra magus was supposed to be more guresome the sweeps actually torture him and pulled him apart piece by piece, that why the junktrons where able to put him back together so easy . he was torn limb by limb. But they animators thought Little to much for kids to see. They change it at last minute
Now Autobot City is located outside of Chattanooga Tennessee at lookout mountain
Unicrons theme is the greatest in the entire Transformers Canon, including the films.
It's funny how for the older generation, they blamed Hot Rod for getting in the way, while the newer generation said Prime should have just shot without hesitation. Especially since the Bay Prime has ignored all pleas and simply killed his opponents, even when they couldn't fight back anymore. But Generation 1 Prime shooting without remorse or hesitation would have been out of character for him, which was why Hot Rod was blamed. In the minds of kids back then, had Roddy not been there, there was a possibility of a clutch from Prime.
“ in an alternate universe” you don’t have to look that far. There’s been plenty of Optimus Prime voice actors in this one.
This movie is amazing. You’ll definitely will love the Transformers Prime series.
Megatron is Galvatron... Galvatron got thrown into space and yes he comes back in the continuation of the series
After the immense blowback from his death in the film, the fools at Hasbro had the genius idea of bringing back Prime, which they did in Season 3, first with "Dark Awakening", but for good with the two-part episode, The Return of Optimus Prime. If you're interested, you check out the episodes here on YT. Cool reaction!
I cried so much when Optimus died
Edit: Unicron is so op because he is literally a god. He’s like the Cybertronian version of Satan.
Megatron voiced by legendary voice actor Frank Welker... voice of literally like a million different characters... Soundwave and a dozen other Transformers characters... Fred from Scooby Doo... Stripe from Gremlins.. Abu the Monkey.. Dr. Claw from Inspector Gadget, pretty much every animal noise you ever heard on any cartoon from the 80s, 90s, or 2000s
Starscream voiced by Chris Latta, was also Cobra Commander on GI Joe and a ton of other things. Had some drug problems, died young.
Peter Cullen does Optimus Prime and Ironhide in this and reprised his role as Optimus in the shitty Bayformers movies. Has done a lot of other voices and also was one of the top movie trailer voice guys for a while... though Don LaFontaine was THE movie trailer voice guy... Cullen got maybe 1/3rd as much work as that guy. I saw a panel with Cullen at one of the early BotCons, he teared up talking about Latta, and again when I went up to shake his hand and told him what an impact his work had had on me growing up.
This movie is like one of the first animated films that had a celebrity cast... all the new characters were voiced by well-known actors, not the guys like above who would be well-known to animation and cartoon fans but are not famous to the general public. Orson Welles being the biggest name of the bunch... absolute legend... he died during production voicing Unicron so this was actually his last theatrical role. Leonard Nimoy (Star Trek's Spock) filled in for him and did a couple of Unicron's lines in addition to voicing Galvatron. (After the movie, they turned Galvatron insane and he was voiced by Frank Welker again.) Judd Nelson (Breakfast Club; brat pack) as Hot Rod, Lionel Stander (Hart to Hart, old Hollywood stalwart) as Kup, Robert Stack (the Unsolved Mysteries guy) as Ultra Magnus, John Moschita (the Micro Machine man; world record holder for fastest talker) as Blurr. Eric Idle (of Monty Python fame) voiced Wreck-Gar... not all the A-list actors that you would see some years later voicing stuff like Shark Tale or Shrek.. but.. they were known actors instead of traditional voice over actors and that was something new. Only film older than this I can think of that sort of did that was maybe The Jungle Book and not as much.
From what I have been told this movie takes place between seasons 3-4 of the g1 transformers and they pretty much killed a lot of characters off to make new ones for toy sales.
16:35 best line in the movie
This movie was my introduction to the Transformers franchise as a kid and kickstarted my love for it. I didn’t have the attachment to the characters so I didn’t get the trauma of seeing everyone die like the kids who watched it when it aired. It’s also probably why I didn’t mind seeing the quick deaths many bots got in the Bay movies. Everybody was dying here lol
Same experience with this movie too,i watched this in 2006 before the first michael bay movie came out and my first expirence with transformers.
G1 + the 1986 movie and Prime are different continuities, and Prime is the perfect blend between G1 and the bayverse trillogy, so you'll definitely find that easy to follow! If you do end up watching Prime I'll greatly look forward to seeing that.
This literally was a massacre on the toyline and how to get the new lines in there's many more casualties on both sides in deleted scenes plus there's a massive battle at the arc between the other combiners
Autobot City is located outside of Chattanooga Tennessee at lookout mountain dude Megatron is voiced by Frank Walker and Galvatron is voiced by lennord nimoy
12:28 Ratchet huh? Here's Ratchet 5:18
16:34 it's so funny you didn't think too much about Bumblebee saying "Oh shit" cause that's literally nothing nowadays but when he said that back in the 80's parents went wild and not the good type of wild lol.
These are the originals. Michael Bay's version are the copy.
Ok so imma try and explain the TF timelines as briefly as possible
So we start in 1984 with G1. This is the original series that had 2 initial seasons, followed by this movie as a bridging point in 1986, and then 2 more seasons after that. There were a few Japanese spin-off series after that, but they sort of take place in their own separate timeline that ignores the events of G1 season 4.
Then there’s Beast Wars, the CGI series that came out in the mid 90’s and takes place in the far future of the G1 universe. It ran for 3 seasons, had a sequel series called Beast Machines, and some Japanese spin-offs, although none of them are really all that noteworthy.
In 2001, Transformers finally had its first ever hard reboot with “Robots In Disguise,” an anime series imported over to the west.
Following that show in the early 2000’s came the 3 separate anime series that would go on to be collectively named “The Unicron Trilogy.” This includes Transformers Armada, Energon, and Cybertron. This trilogy was yet another complete reboot that ignored anything else prior.
After that comes the live action movies by Michael Bay. No need to go in depth here as you’re already well versed with them, but it is worth noting that it was another total reboot, with no connections to prior series. Bumblebee and Rise of The Beasts are connected as well, but we still don’t really know if those two are prequels to the Bay films or a reboot. Hasbro hasn’t given a definitive answer yet, but as far as we can tell, they’re separate.
In 2007, tying in with the release of the first film, there was Transformers: Animated. This was another reboot with no connections to anything else. It ran for 3 seasons before being cancelled before it was set to properly conclude.
In 2010 we got Transformers Prime, which was once again a complete reboot. It, again, ran for 3 seasons, and received a TV movie to wrap up its story (Note: this series feels the most like the movies tonally and visually, so I recommend it as a good jumping on point, in addition to it just being a great show). Prime was part of what is called the Aligned Continuity, which also includes two video games, some novels, and a sequel series to Prime called Robots in Disguise (no relation to the 2001 show). Most people tend to ignore this sequel series as it’s not widely considered to be a very good followup.
After that, we get a few more rebooted series, most of which are somewhat less noteworthy. There’s the Prime Wars Trilogy by Machinima (Combiner Wars, Titans Return, and Power of The Primes), then Cyberverse, the War For Cybertron Trilogy (Siege, Earthrise, and Kingdom), and finally, EarthSpark, the show currently running.
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It was a giant commercial. It was the 80s, Blur was cracked out.