Humanity may never recognize it, but Hoffman and his team are doing the most important work ever done. His humility and unwavering commitment to the scientific method is astounding. He and his team rank among humanity’s greatest and their achievements to date are perhaps the most important science ever done. In my opinion, that is not hyperbole.
I mean none of this is new. He is just philosophizing and using more scientific terms to describe what they said in Advaita. About the Self and Awareness being primary, and the physical world being Maya or illusion. And that consciousness is projecting it, infinitely. That's what I gather.
“We should take reality seriously, but not logically” We should discern, not live in fear. This is one of the best interviews I have listened to with Dr Hoffman so far. ❤👍
Is it serious? This kind of discourse takes a serious approach, but it seems silly to take it seriously. The cosmic joke has e everyone running round in circles. Saṃsāra. Wake up! You can still play the game you want to play, but that doesn't make it serious.
indeed. I concur. Hoffster is getting more and more clean and confident in describing his work (and more people aren't polarizing his data but more are groking it and supporting). It's his ❤️ and vulnerability that is so easy to listen to and therefore Love him in turn 🙏🏻 also great interview sir! 🙏🏻
The stuff that Hoffman says is contradictory to Buddhism. Sure, there is maya, the great illusion that is reality, but the Buddha also explained the idea that there is non-self or annatman. In terms of Hoffman's vernacular ... Who is the you that is using the space-time reality headset? Answering that question is like the tounge tasting itself, or the eye seeing itself.... (If you really thing about it, these are both impossible, the tongue can't taste itself, it needs something different to taste. The eye might see it's reflection, but that's not an eye, it's a reflection of an eye. )
Yeh its great to hear Hoffman's insight, but the REAL DEEP info is hidden behind their money wall. You got to come as a beggar in the night, with shivering hands dropping your last 30 pieces of silver into their greedy hand to get a limited view into the REAL archive. This is just the tip, according to the guy who host this channel.... Perhaps he needs the money to cut the tale or do foot surgery, getting rid of the cloven hoofs. 📛
The primary task is not to understand, much less escape from, the game (the headset), but rather to throw oneself into the game and play it passionately so as to grow in love and wisdom. Such is true religion, genuine spirituality. Everything else are what William James called overbeliefs.
It seems like you might agree with a post I made today, about the spiritual implications of his theory of a simulation. Look for my orange circle, with the letter 'm', if you wish to read it.
But there is nothing wrong with trying to understand the headset/game. I don't recall either of them saying anything about trying to escape the game/headset, but I might have missed it. I think Hoffman sort of agrees with you about genuine spirituality during his mentioning his experience with deep meditation.
I woke up from a Ketamine experience, under physician assistance, taken for profound chronic PTSD from being Raped at 13 and family dynamics that lead to me being there for that experience, if you will, I’m now 64…I woke up knowing I was having profound experience…my hands were open, holding something…a ball of light, that was a three dimensional representation of this consciousness…can’t believe I’m experiencing this….thank you Avastar of Consciousness Donald for spending your time and space exploring this…fascinating!!!
I met my gigantic (moon-sized) "Higher Self" on one of my breakthrough trips on DMT. Hoffman has said in interviews with Sam and Annika Harris, and again with ZDoggMD, that he thinks psychedelics could be useful tools to explore consciousness.
Excellent discussion. The second half really gets interesting after Dr Hoffman lays out the supporting math. That's the exciting thing about this guy. He's not shooting from his hip. He has the math to back it up. We're very lucky to have Dr. Hoffman. His parents we're also extremely intelligent and their background, like their son, is based on incredible research, knowledge and depth.
Yes, however, I'm not sure about his obsession with math. As far as I'm concerned, math is also pretty restricted language... He speaks of one consciousness, but one of the basic math foundational axioms is that you can draw a straight line trough 2 points. Math already presupposes that there are 2 points to draw line through and that it will be straight. Or that you can always draw a straight line in between 2 points.
Like I’ve commented in a previous video of yours; I’ve been steadily binging your content. I have NOT been disappointed! This is my FAVORITE video of yours so far! If only all the “intellectuals” would TRY TO RELATE to the common man about what they are discovering or thinking; imagine THAT world! I love the Hoff; I’ve seen him in numerous videos and one thing (of many!) that I greatly appreciate about him is: he doesn’t GIVE A CRAP if a channel has a million subscribers or just a tiny handful; he will accept their interview invites and generously give those creators as much time as as they want. I’ve even seen him in interviews of completely incompetent (or maybe just novice interviewers) and he STAYS patient and tries his best to help the creator out during the interview. This guy is a GREAT person and I admire him deeply. Side note: I even emailed him with my completely pedantic questions ( I LOVE this stuff but I’m DEFINITELY NOT an expert!) and he actually took time to reply to me. Humble man.. Great interview!!
This just sends me straight into the void. I’ve all been a nihilist since the age of eleven, of course I didn’t know what is nihilism then, but no matter. No matter how I try, I can’t seem to understand this, seemingly pointless act of dying forgetting and coming right back, dying forgetting and coming right back…. Forever and ever and ever. We are all god. We are all bored as hell, apparently, why else do we do this? Trick ourselves with an endless array of avatars for infinity. It’s like haven’t we experienced death and suffering and sorrow and disease and pain and watching as our corpses slowly rot away, and then rush to fetch another? As profound as all of this may be, I AM just tired of doing this, I really am. AND, there’s never any way out, as I am god and this IS what I want to do… It’s exhausting…. I, as god NEED to find another way, to amuse myself….
I relate to this, and the pointlessness and helplessness within it, devoid of deep worthwhile meaning thats at a level enough to outweigh the prior, the things you mention. Bernardo Kastrup speaks to all of this by “finding freedom as the slave”, he elaborates. I’m wanting to explore that though still feel a little bit blind as to crossing that bridge from where I am to where he points to. Regardless, I relate to your experience.
Maybe you should look Into the soultrap topic - so you dont have to come back again to this hellrealm before another mindwipe and a body wich could be worse that the one youre in now
1) you’re not God, you’re temporal ego (jinn mind) convinced you that you are. 2) No matter how much you wrap your mind around the nature and understanding of the state of your headset avatar, it will only be 0.0001% of what it actually is. The purpose is to be one to the Will of the creator in this form and in that journey better understand the creator. Everyone has their own path. Cheers. Peace be with you.
One of the best recent discussions w Donald. Have followed him since his Ted talk. Then, very politely suggesting, implying, a "virtual reality" type view of reality. Now, surpassing most others in how outspoken and direct he is about it. Thank you, both! Looking forward to the work being done in the years ahead.
Why do you think the vast majority of people are uncomfortable with this assertion? I’ve noticed when people openly say this about consciousness it’s usually met with contempt depending on the crowd..
@@Cardioid2035 people who haven’t had an ego death when being confronted with reality. Not everyone is meant to leave the matrix, which isn’t a monetary thing. It’s realizing our consciousness exists in all dimensions at once. We can live a lifetime in a 15-min DMT trip. That’s what this is to our higher selves. We’ll soon wake back up to the real reality. And just like how we think we’re dying on psychedelics, but when we say F it, if I die I die! THATS when the trip really begins. We can truly start to live once we aren’t afraid of death. We are timeless conscious beings come here to learn and grow. Earth is a classroom not a courtroom ✌️ ❤️
@@Cardioid2035 _"Why do you think the vast majority of people are uncomfortable with this assertion?"_ A product of their indoctrination into inferior or suboptimal states of consciousness. They will overcome it in time (or rather, life times!).
Your mind does not dictate reality, your neural structures dictate sensations which are reality TO YOU. Your mind is just a little tiny thing that remembers and comments on sensations, and it isn’t you. Your higher self dictates reality, but your ego self will try to fool you into thinking it is the one who does.
The way he talks about these levels of physics and how their flaws are artifacts of being interfaces to different levels or more or less complicated things jogged my mind into a new understanding of things that it didn't before this interview.
I would love to see a discussion between classic renowned physicists and guys like Donald Hoffman and Nima Arkani-Hamed in the mass media (like television shows) to get this new paradigm shift in the broad public..it is time for a complete change in our world and society!
@@dianawitty9628 That'd be nice, but people seem set on bouncing from one "church" to another. I'm not meaning to brag but most of what these guys are talking about I came up with on my own, and I don't have "PhD" after my name either. It's why I know they have tunnel vision and selling you on a watered down and incomplete version of Kabbalistic, Hermetic, and ancient gnostic sects. All so they can be the new boss, cause that's how this place works.
I just burnt the words, 'we are infinite' into a chest last week...im a pyrography artist and it was my intuitive project of the day💫🙂 happy to be here listening in now..
Dr. Hoffman speaks reality however nobody should lose the fact that 3 dimensional reality is where we’re at. We still need to live each day with love and purpose. It’s important for us to know all this and live your best life!
@@James-ll3jb of course it’s real. Perception is reality. This is more of a challenge to open people’s minds to a higher existence. To have peace, to not fear.
I agree. And I’m someone who has always been skeptical of following any sort of intuition. I think Bernardo Kastrup (who makes the same kind of sounds Don is making) put it perfectly. If you can stay in touch with the relationship between the ego and broader states of consciousness (including meta-consciousness) in a flow state of being, intuition can be incredibly powerful. Like you said, it feels right... like beyond a gut feeling.
Well, hate to burst your bubble... Donald Hoffman is an illusion produced by your space-time VR headset. Your feeling of rightness is just an interpretation of a complex unseen reality that you don't experience directly because all you need is vague feelings to support your biology.
@@kayakMike1000or his ideas are very interesting, and get a lot of attention, so any podcaster with 2 brain cells to fire off would want to have him on, he’s mentioned the only reason he does media is to get young people interested in math and science because we need scientist
@@kayakMike1000 Science describes what we can perceive, not what we can’t. If true reality is beyond space-time, (as implied in this theory) then we will never be able to prove it scientifically, spacetime is a limit.
I love Donald Hoffman, i vaguely remembering him in the 90s talking about this and not understanding him because I was not open to this stuff and was just a child. But through experience I see that he is way beyond his time. I wish he would explain more on a basic level demonstrations like the microscope and high energy creating a black hole more. I watched everyone of his interviews and have to pick up little by little cause he explains different things in each one. You asked good questions in this interview.
“Do not try and bend the spoon, that’s impossible. Instead only try and realize the truth (what truth you ask?). There is no spoon! Then you will see it’s not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself”. - Matrix
David Icke wrote in his books that there are people in Eastern Europe who are able to walk through walls. There were people in Mongolia who walked out of prisons that way. He says that our indoctrination goes so deep that we actually establish the walls and we see walls that the collective has set up with their strong belief. Our world is a belief network. This is difficult to comprehend. But I have observed some of that with some things already. It's quite unsettling. Have you heard of the Kozeyrev mirror room?
@@jacobvanveit3437 Yes that is what it seems like. I admire Wim Hof and people who keep their mind upright and positive no matter how much garbage and chaos and suffering is going on in the world. What really bothers me is the mind control done by the CIA against anyone who is more resistant to brainwashing. This is a tough one to deal with for me.
The theory of everything is an immeasurable consciousness who created everything around us, including us. One whose mind and knowledge can can never be fully comprehended by our finite brains.. So, yes, we will ALWAYS be searching. What we should be searching for primarily is THE CREATOR.
This is a very interesting conversation. Thank you for posting. I have the idea that the way physicists are approaching their comprehension of the world is not right, finding a theory of everything is like going with a car inside a lake, the car works for a road, you need a boat to navigate a lake. The analogy is to theories breaking down in singularity or consciousness. We need new math, new theories and new experiments.
I think people unfamiliar with the ancient philosophical trichotomy of materialism/dualism/idealism are more impressed with this guy than they ought to be. He brings some reserch (good or bad) to the table, but the idea that consciousness and not external existence is primary is old and widely discussed long before he was even born.
Substances like psychedelics when administered temporarily and in the minimum and safe dose can save life (prevent suicide), yet..long term all of them are NOT the answer (solution to the problem). self honesty, emotional and spiritual healing (done correctly) produce safe and lasting results..health happiness, inner peace
I’ve been researching on psychedelics and it’s benefits to individuals dealing with Anxiety, Depression, ADHD and from my findings, they really work and I’ve been eager to get some for a while but its been difficult to get my hands on them.
The Trips I've been having really helped me a lot. I’m now able to meditate and I finally feel in control of my emotions and my future and things that used to be mundane to me now seem incredible and full of nuance on top of that I'm way less driven by my ego and I have alot more empathy as well
@ohmakure4716 I feel the same way too. I put too much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels. I am also glad to be a part of this community.
1:18:47 I am beginning to appreciate Dr. Hoffman’s grievance here, and it is a real one. Dogmatism within religion is deadly and must be stopped at all costs. I come from a religious tradition that says my God’s entire Law hangs on loving my neighbor, because no one who loves one’s neighbor harms them. However, of course I have seen how Christianity has been used to justify stealing, killing, and destroying around the world for potentially thousands of years. How could a religion stray so far from its true purpose? This is a question that keeps Christians up at night, and I’m very thankful that Dr. Hoffman is also wrestling with this problem. Religion evolves. That is what is missing from modern Christian denominations. The Bible describes evolution as “The Mystery of The Two Olive Trees.” Members from the cultivated olive tree are cut off to make room for members from the uncultivated olive tree to be unnaturally grafted on. This process takes place every generation. And there is, in every generation, a hyperreligious, arrogant group of people who resist such evolution. They are the members that get cut off, such as the Pharisees, Saul’s line as king of Israel, the humans who lived during the days of Noah, or Satan and his angels. This event is called “The Repentance of The LORD,” in which God repents of creating certain members of His Body and forcibly removes them by “plucking out and chopping off the member that would lead us to temptation.” In their place, God chooses the foolish things of the world, the weak things, the last things, the things that are not, and the humble things to be unnaturally grafted on to His Body, the cultivated olive tree. This process is called “The Ascension of The Scapegoat.” The Repentance of The LORD is happening today, and those dogmatic religious people Dr. Hoffman is talking about are going to be forcibly removed and replaced by others who will do better than them.
These are exciting times, for as long as I can remember I have Wondered who am I, why am I here, what is This place, Why is Earth such a angry dangerous place while being Amazing and Beautiful. And other life in the universe..what is their story? Thank you for discussing this.
This has the opposite presumed affect, by being the glue of my already deconstructed sense of reality. I have had several decades of interdimensional contact with something, and have spent my entire life since, trying to make the most sense of it. I'm just a normal person, with a pretty normal life. I liken it to a healthy sort of schizophrenia, I don't see threatening entities or hear voices telling me bad things. I have the opposite going on. The entity I see and hear is helpful and kind, but sometimes can show me some frightening things. Its for real, but it still can be very horrifying to experience. I thought I WAS going crazy. I fell asleep the first go, it was late for me. Giving it another watch now because it really helped tie in my own thoughts and logic about whatever it is that I go through. What happens to me is intensified through psychedelics, but is not caused by, or reliant on them. It just happens. I actually haven't used them much since it started happening, except for a few times, since the 90's. In fact, the few times I HAVE done them in the more recent past, I did not have the interdimensional phenomena occur. It was just normal psychedelic experience. The interdimensional stuff happens when it wants to. I don't know what to call it, but I sure am glad this is being talked about these days. I have suffered in silence for a long time over it all.
I did DMT daily for a while to treat a spinal cord injury and after a few months I got an inkling of "contact" with entities during times I was completely sober.
@@istantinoplebullconsta642 Cool, thanks! This adds to the theory that psychedelics unlock certain filters. Whatever I have going on, began in childhood after the injury. I had an OBE at 5 and watched my own beating taking place from above my body. It took a long time to figure out what that was, I was very puzzled by it as a child. I now can see, what I thought was my imagination, was really the earlier versions of this communication. Our Spinal Cord is very Key to this process. I still can't be very sure of anything, but I know its entirely connected to my consciousness. There ARE outward effects in the physical world though. Its not ALL just in my head. We are the New Pioneers.
Fascinating conversation. Grateful I've found your channel. I feel like I just walked up to the mirror and poked it to watch the ripples. Reluctant to admit this but had to pause around an hour in and watch the old Monty Python dead parrot sketch....
There's a Shadow behind every Truth until the final Truth. The final Truth is that Life is Consciousness. Everything below that is based on an individual's beliefs and experiences. We're all a fragment of creation itself. We are pure Spirit/Existence...💎♾️🙏
Great video, thanks. Donald is very much on the same page as Tom Campbell's My Big Toe (Theory Of Everything) - Consciousness is fundamental and our reality may be modelled as if it were a simulated virtual reality which is part of Consciousness's strategy to evolve it's own being (by increasing co-operation, love etc)
I am not a scientist but I was blessed with ability to read the informational field via intentional ecological request to aquire truth about any topic. I get chills when Dr. HOFFMAN talking. We observe our reality by creating our personal hologram in 360 degree field screen projected from the inside to the outside in a specific frequency which represents the level of a person and there are 9 levels of consciousness. 7 represent our chakras and 2 above head in our aura. 70% population is on the first level. Only 3% on 4th and rest in between. We all generate our own reality by harvesting energy via DNA structure. And our outside reality is built based on sacred geometry and complicated mathematical formulas involving operators for each specific function used for varios kinds of materialization. Won't go further... most wont get it...
The amplituhedron is so fascinating. To me, it is so eerily similar to the revelations of the 'Big Ring' and 'Giant arc' structures in astronomy/astrophysics. It seems we keep finding these "pointers" as you say. The harder we dig into the sciences, the more we keep finding these things that defy any understanding we thought we had about our reality, almost a wink and a nod from the universe. Especially as Dr. Hoffman says it perpetuates new theories and new understandings of the thing that is life, spacetime, the machine, etc. We think we know, and the mother laughs!
If consciousness is a universal awareness playing peekaboo with itself, as soon as you understand you will fall into forgetfulness to start the game again.
I guess that's exactly how mind at large (AND mind at small 😌) works. For me personally, it's kind of struggeling trying to integrate Hofman's and especially Kastrup's philosophy into my daily life 😉 Old patterns are powerful and most people are scared of new perspectives..
Six years ago I removed a Yogi teabag’s words of wisdom held by a string attached to the floating teabag. It has been attached to the back of my cell phone ever since: “The unknown is where all outcomes are possible - enter it with Grace.”
Fear is only for you and your experience. You will create fear from nothing, when you're in danger youve placed yourself into a new situation which you uncertainty pervades reality. You can only overcome fear by avoiding the unknown.
... one only fears the unknown if one has not mastered control over the lower instincts with reasoning and choice. It's about perspective. Nothing is truely known, as can be seen in trying to define reality & consciousness. Knowing is an assumption belief theory only. Theories are not truth, they are opinions only. One can understand this concept that nothing is truely known and live/understand accordingly, that the true state of being is a continual state of continuous change, and therefore choose to live with enthusiasm and opportunity rather than fear.
The powers that be want you afraid. They forcibly lower your vibration, through fear and trauma so the Phoenix can snatch you up as they hide in their underground bunkers.
We often hear of the hard problem of consciousness. Why is there qualia or experience of anything in the first place? I would submit there is an even harder and more important question - why do I seem to be a specific individual experiencing a specific subset of qualia? If material reductionism is to be relevant to the big questions, then it has to explain not how brains generate consciousness but how the specific brain in my head could create the specific consciousness I seem to be looking out of the eyeballs of this specific body. Why do I PERSONNALLY EXIST as an individual in the first place? Out of the infinite matter in the universe how is it that only the three pounds in my head could create me? What is different about that three pounds for this to occur? Consider that billions of bodies showed up before this one. Billions showed up after this one. None of them seem to have created my existence. This body could be running around without it being ME just like these billions of others All bodies are made of the same elements. All brains have the same basic anatomy. If all brains are basically the same and are creating consciousness then there should only be ONE consciousness staring out of every set of eyeballs simultaneously. A hopelessly superimposed existence from every possible viewpoint at once. I’m sure that materialists would claim that no, no, brains are so complex they are all different. Ok, so what would have to be recreated in another brain for me to exist staring out of another set of eyeballs? If an exact copy of my body was created in antarctica would I find myself to exist there freezing my butt off while also sitting in the comfort my living room? According to the physicalists that would have to be true or their argument collapses into incoherence. Then in a random universe where things statistically reoccur why couldn’t I exist again or even in more then one place at a time? Why do the physicalists so adamantly insist that an individualized consciousness could only exist once? How could pure awareness even be individualized? Physicalists demand measurements but with consciousness there is nothing to measure. There is electricity in the brain they say. We’ll measure that. Is electricity consciousness? If so then once I again I should exist everywhere at once since electricity cannot be individualized. My blender uses electricity. Is it a genius? Unless materialists can answer these questions their premise collapses like the house of cards it is. As far as other ways of thought are concerned only Dualism and Idealism can account for our sense of individuality. Dualism assumes we are all individual spirits/souls matched up to a body through some undefined process. Idealism, which states that consciousness is primary also answers the question of why I seem to exist as an individual. One consciousness exists looking out of every set of eyeballs and in the process the illusion of individuality is created in each case. I am you, you are me, we are one.
Material reductionism cant even define consciousness, let alone provide a theory that explains how to get individual aware subjects (i.e. consciousness) from a combination of unconscious objects (i.e. atoms, molecules; baryonic matter). The question remains!
We are all one there is no time, consciousness is not subject to the constraints or space time. In deep meditation I can reach to other worlds and other entities and reach into their mind see what they see. If not for my connection to this body I feel that I will eventually experience all that can be experienced though every vessel for eternity. This is why it is so imperative to love one another and show understanding to never judge and only guide those who are searching
We take in and it is with in us individually and collectively, Consciousness is like sound all around us, like we take in light…then construct space time reality from light, sound, taste, pressure…the lasting of this experience held in memory influenced by learning from others intersections (history) which at this time leads to bias’ about space time…what we seem to be pre-occupied with… Seeing all of us as expressed Consciousness being fundamental says a lot about this place, your individual or collective experience, that space time just can’t hold.
In my opinion, believing there's only an "illusion of individuality" is the same as the materialist position. It just puts consciousness at an earlier stage of the process. In either scenario, YOU don't truly exist. You're just a set of neurons saying words, not actually reasoning. "I am you, you are me, we are just atoms with empty space in between."
The headset that filters our categories of thinking (time, space, cause, effect, etc.) only covers the hardware part of cognition. What kind of gaming software is being run through the headset also determine what we think, and why and how we think it. There is at least one game per level of consciousness. Spiral Dynamics has done a pretty fair job mapping out at least eight different cognitive programs that the mind plays as it evolves through the gauntlet of qualities of consciousness generated by our historical development.
In one of my more memorable lsd trips i watched a new star wars movie and everything that happening was as if i was imagining it into existence. Obviously hundreds and hundreds of people worked on it but until i witnessed it none of it exsisted in reality. It was the most profound experience. It reality we have all the power here we are all god. we can make our own lives as perfectly imperfect as we choose to perceive.
Delightful dip as always. Thanks Michael and don🤩 You know its an interesting area of science when the scientists overlook the obvious interpretation due to its being too far out. Dismissive intuition is a reliable way of obscuring doubtworthyness😂 if i try to present a possibility and instead of hearing me out you subconsciously or consciously hold it up to a bunch of unfounded delusions as a means of determining its likelihood, then you are what we call a closed minded buzzkill.
Thx for asking some new questions. I do wish someone would push harder on the details, and ask for English translations of specialized math terms. You started to once, then quickly backed out. People are not afraid of math, they just need to know what the words mean. I’m sure you want to know too.
Just wanted to say (from a very "headset" perspective!) that's it's really useful how you include screenshots of text and images that help to explain the key concepts being discussed. It can get frustrating to have to pause a video and go searching for definitions, especially when dealing with complex and emotionally challenging subject material.
Wild to me I had a dream about being in an elevator that was a gateway to different spaces and times and by accident traveled to a different time (I was trying to get to a different space in the same time) where Einstein was waiting on the other side of the elevator door...
What I don't get about this consciousness only stuff is why is consciousness so weak and pathetic? Only consciousness I'm familiar with is insane people that die from cancer and animals insects etc that have to kill and eat each other to stay alive? What I don't get about materialism is if there's supposed to be an eternity of nothing just because one individual brain isn't existing then why are there billions of people alive and making more people? Plus all the other life forms. This world is to crazy for me wish I could live in a world that made sense and didn't kill everything
What we believe becomes inate so what will do we have but the one we follow when we only know limitedly and what's given light is information and illusion all the same dreams in a realty the matrix is not to break free but to hack and challenge the current you in a hall of mirrors which is hell and paradise all in one
Thank you very much for this deep, heartfelt and pertinent interview, from beginning to the very end. Looking forward to the next one with this -I couldn't agree more- unparalleled genius. I'm so glad (and I feel grateful) that Donald Hoffman is part of the active scientific world today. Also, hopefully, interviews such as this one, will contribute to speeding up the process of appreciating/seriously considering/validating his concrete theory (and others coming from other wise people) during our lifetime --and not only becoming a scientific legacy after 100 years the theory had been postulated! (as it is almost always the case with breakthroughs -very especially- in the scientific world, unfortunately). Thank you so much again
Thank you both for the hole conversation ! I wonder if one of you has taken Walter Russell into account or the plasmoidal maths of Malcolm bendall, i think it could match and maybe bring forward the geometrical laws into applieable trancending perspective...
Humanity may never recognize it, but Hoffman and his team are doing the most important work ever done. His humility and unwavering commitment to the scientific method is astounding. He and his team rank among humanity’s greatest and their achievements to date are perhaps the most important science ever done. In my opinion, that is not hyperbole.
I mean none of this is new. He is just philosophizing and using more scientific terms to describe what they said in Advaita. About the Self and Awareness being primary, and the physical world being Maya or illusion. And that consciousness is projecting it, infinitely. That's what I gather.
He has brought it into a western context. In a way that bridges the gap between mysticism and science.
Yeah, BUT with A-LOT more experimental and mathematical data…
Agree. His work is on the level of Newton. His team has done the math and proved that reality is an illusion, if you take the Darwin as a given.
Indeed. Him, tom cambell, robert monroe (rip), rubert sheldrake legends when it comes to how important conciousness is
Finally a Hoffman interviewer who is well-spoken, not narcissistic, guides the conversation, and does not interrupt...
“My emotions disagree with my own theories”. Love it.
...and that is wonderfully and surreptitiously dysfunctional!
Brilliant! (on his part) 〽️
“We should take reality seriously, but not logically” We should discern, not live in fear.
This is one of the best interviews I have listened to with Dr Hoffman so far. ❤👍
Thank you! 🙏
Yup. Dis-C.E.R.N.🤫🫣😉
Is it serious? This kind of discourse takes a serious approach, but it seems silly to take it seriously. The cosmic joke has e everyone running round in circles.
Saṃsāra.
Wake up! You can still play the game you want to play, but that doesn't make it serious.
indeed. I concur. Hoffster is getting more and more clean and confident in describing his work (and more people aren't polarizing his data but more are groking it and supporting).
It's his ❤️ and vulnerability that is so easy to listen to and therefore Love him in turn 🙏🏻
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great interview sir!
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I'm a Zen buddihist and I love the knowledge he shared with us in this podcast. Very similar to ancient masters yet modern.
The stuff that Hoffman says is contradictory to Buddhism. Sure, there is maya, the great illusion that is reality, but the Buddha also explained the idea that there is non-self or annatman. In terms of Hoffman's vernacular ... Who is the you that is using the space-time reality headset? Answering that question is like the tounge tasting itself, or the eye seeing itself.... (If you really thing about it, these are both impossible, the tongue can't taste itself, it needs something different to taste. The eye might see it's reflection, but that's not an eye, it's a reflection of an eye. )
@@kayakMike1000 Zen Buddhist
I like Zen "controlled breathing" ...
(That's the only "zen" I care anything about.)
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@@kayakMike1000good piece
Yeh its great to hear Hoffman's insight, but the REAL DEEP info is hidden behind their money wall. You got to come as a beggar in the night, with shivering hands dropping your last 30 pieces of silver into their greedy hand to get a limited view into the REAL archive. This is just the tip, according to the guy who host this channel.... Perhaps he needs the money to cut the tale or do foot surgery, getting rid of the cloven hoofs. 📛
Future scientists will be grateful that the medium of video exists to preserve brilliant minds like Donald Hoffman.
Future scientists will all be AI
The primary task is not to understand, much less escape from, the game (the headset), but rather to throw oneself into the game and play it passionately so as to grow in love and wisdom. Such is true religion, genuine spirituality. Everything else are what William James called overbeliefs.
It seems like you might agree with a post I made today, about the spiritual implications of his theory of a simulation. Look for my orange circle, with the letter 'm', if you wish to read it.
But there is nothing wrong with trying to understand the headset/game. I don't recall either of them saying anything about trying to escape the game/headset, but I might have missed it. I think Hoffman sort of agrees with you about genuine spirituality during his mentioning his experience with deep meditation.
@@istantinoplebullconsta642 He has done a video with a Vedanta monk. It's very revealing as it becomes obvious they are on the same page.
I woke up from a Ketamine experience, under physician assistance, taken for profound chronic PTSD from being Raped at 13 and family dynamics that lead to me being there for that experience, if you will, I’m now 64…I woke up knowing I was having profound experience…my hands were open, holding something…a ball of light, that was a three dimensional representation of this consciousness…can’t believe I’m experiencing this….thank you Avastar of Consciousness Donald for spending your time and space exploring this…fascinating!!!
YES! I believe these" Orbs" ppl see ARE those Conscious Spheres. My theory❤
I did 12 infusions and each one was life changing
I met my gigantic (moon-sized) "Higher Self" on one of my breakthrough trips on DMT. Hoffman has said in interviews with Sam and Annika Harris, and again with ZDoggMD, that he thinks psychedelics could be useful tools to explore consciousness.
Excellent discussion. The second half really gets interesting after Dr Hoffman lays out the supporting math. That's the exciting thing about this guy. He's not shooting from his hip. He has the math to back it up.
We're very lucky to have Dr. Hoffman. His parents we're also extremely intelligent and their background, like their son, is based on incredible research, knowledge and depth.
Yes, however, I'm not sure about his obsession with math. As far as I'm concerned, math is also pretty restricted language... He speaks of one consciousness, but one of the basic math foundational axioms is that you can draw a straight line trough 2 points. Math already presupposes that there are 2 points to draw line through and that it will be straight. Or that you can always draw a straight line in between 2 points.
Like I’ve commented in a previous video of yours; I’ve been steadily binging your content. I have NOT been disappointed! This is my FAVORITE video of yours so far! If only all the “intellectuals” would TRY TO RELATE to the common man about what they are discovering or thinking; imagine THAT world!
I love the Hoff; I’ve seen him in numerous videos and one thing (of many!) that I greatly appreciate about him is: he doesn’t GIVE A CRAP if a channel has a million subscribers or just a tiny handful; he will accept their interview invites and generously give those creators as much time as as they want.
I’ve even seen him in interviews of completely incompetent (or maybe just novice interviewers) and he STAYS patient and tries his best to help the creator out during the interview.
This guy is a GREAT person and I admire him deeply.
Side note: I even emailed him with my completely pedantic questions ( I LOVE this stuff but I’m DEFINITELY NOT an expert!) and he actually took time to reply to me. Humble man..
Great interview!!
This just sends me straight into the void.
I’ve all been a nihilist since the age of eleven, of course I didn’t know what is nihilism then, but no matter.
No matter how I try, I can’t seem to understand this, seemingly pointless act of dying forgetting and coming right back, dying forgetting and coming right back….
Forever and ever and ever.
We are all god.
We are all bored as hell, apparently, why else do we do this?
Trick ourselves with an endless array of avatars for infinity.
It’s like haven’t we experienced death and suffering and sorrow and disease and pain and watching as our corpses slowly rot away, and then rush to fetch another?
As profound as all of this may be, I AM just tired of doing this, I really am.
AND, there’s never any way out, as I am god and this IS what I want to do…
It’s exhausting….
I, as god NEED to find another way, to amuse myself….
I relate to this, and the pointlessness and helplessness within it, devoid of deep worthwhile meaning thats at a level enough to outweigh the prior, the things you mention. Bernardo Kastrup speaks to all of this by “finding freedom as the slave”, he elaborates. I’m wanting to explore that though still feel a little bit blind as to crossing that bridge from where I am to where he points to. Regardless, I relate to your experience.
Try the whole ayahuasca experience and go deep into it, then ask the question.
Maybe you should look Into the soultrap topic - so you dont have to come back again to this hellrealm before another mindwipe and a body wich could be worse that the one youre in now
Yeah learn to love and give more...blah blah...next...I'll keep the dogs and cats if possible.
1) you’re not God, you’re temporal ego (jinn mind) convinced you that you are.
2) No matter how much you wrap your mind around the nature and understanding of the state of your headset avatar, it will only be 0.0001% of what it actually is. The purpose is to be one to the Will of the creator in this form and in that journey better understand the creator. Everyone has their own path. Cheers. Peace be with you.
One of the best recent discussions w Donald. Have followed him since his Ted talk. Then, very politely suggesting, implying, a "virtual reality" type view of reality. Now, surpassing most others in how outspoken and direct he is about it. Thank you, both! Looking forward to the work being done in the years ahead.
We are the same consciousness experiencing itself through each of our realities. Since our minds dictate reality, we are the multiverse.
Why do you think the vast majority of people are uncomfortable with this assertion? I’ve noticed when people openly say this about consciousness it’s usually met with contempt depending on the crowd..
@@Cardioid2035 people who haven’t had an ego death when being confronted with reality. Not everyone is meant to leave the matrix, which isn’t a monetary thing. It’s realizing our consciousness exists in all dimensions at once. We can live a lifetime in a 15-min DMT trip. That’s what this is to our higher selves. We’ll soon wake back up to the real reality.
And just like how we think we’re dying on psychedelics, but when we say F it, if I die I die! THATS when the trip really begins. We can truly start to live once we aren’t afraid of death. We are timeless conscious beings come here to learn and grow. Earth is a classroom not a courtroom ✌️ ❤️
@@Cardioid2035 _"Why do you think the vast majority of people are uncomfortable with this assertion?"_
A product of their indoctrination into inferior or suboptimal states of consciousness. They will overcome it in time (or rather, life times!).
@@Cardioid2035 mind controlled slaves are what you speak of.
Your mind does not dictate reality, your neural structures dictate sensations which are reality TO YOU. Your mind is just a little tiny thing that remembers and comments on sensations, and it isn’t you. Your higher self dictates reality, but your ego self will try to fool you into thinking it is the one who does.
The way he talks about these levels of physics and how their flaws are artifacts of being interfaces to different levels or more or less complicated things jogged my mind into a new understanding of things that it didn't before this interview.
I would love to see a discussion between classic renowned physicists and guys like Donald Hoffman and Nima Arkani-Hamed in the mass media (like television shows) to get this new paradigm shift in the broad public..it is time for a complete change in our world and society!
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
No Boss at all…
@@dianawitty9628 That'd be nice, but people seem set on bouncing from one "church" to another. I'm not meaning to brag but most of what these guys are talking about I came up with on my own, and I don't have "PhD" after my name either. It's why I know they have tunnel vision and selling you on a watered down and incomplete version of Kabbalistic, Hermetic, and ancient gnostic sects. All so they can be the new boss, cause that's how this place works.
It's way more interesting than listening to two geriatrics lie and mumble, but the majority of USA citz would rather listen to the latter
He is a pioneer of new era on planet Earth.
It's becoming very 'meta' in more ways than one. The general consciousness is evolving to know they are playing some game of sort.
I just burnt the words,
'we are infinite' into a chest last week...im a pyrography artist and it was my intuitive project of the day💫🙂 happy to be here listening in now..
Dr. Hoffman speaks reality however nobody should lose the fact that 3 dimensional reality is where we’re at. We still need to live each day with love and purpose. It’s important for us to know all this and live your best life!
Love is the source, the absolute
Agreed
@@akaROOSTA ...Somehow I don't think people are going to begin walking around behaving as if the reality they know is unreal lol!
@@James-ll3jb it’s the best way to get the best experience while here
@@James-ll3jb of course it’s real. Perception is reality. This is more of a challenge to open people’s minds to a higher existence. To have peace, to not fear.
I'm following Don whenever he speak, his ideas feel right.
I agree. And I’m someone who has always been skeptical of following any sort of intuition. I think Bernardo Kastrup (who makes the same kind of sounds Don is making) put it perfectly. If you can stay in touch with the relationship between the ego and broader states of consciousness (including meta-consciousness) in a flow state of being, intuition can be incredibly powerful. Like you said, it feels right... like beyond a gut feeling.
Strikes me as a grifter on a media tour. He shows up on just about everyone's podcast as if he is campaigning his ideas into the zeitgeist.
Well, hate to burst your bubble... Donald Hoffman is an illusion produced by your space-time VR headset. Your feeling of rightness is just an interpretation of a complex unseen reality that you don't experience directly because all you need is vague feelings to support your biology.
@@kayakMike1000or his ideas are very interesting, and get a lot of attention, so any podcaster with 2 brain cells to fire off would want to have him on, he’s mentioned the only reason he does media is to get young people interested in math and science because we need scientist
I’m so glad I found this interview. So stoked to dig in. My mind has been blown by Donald Hoffmans’ work and notions.
I been watching all of Hoffman's interviews just to get a better understanding on his theory. 😊
Fascinating topic. I've listened to this conversation a few times and it continues to give me great things to ponder. Thx guys 😊
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Consciousness: Reality or Illusion ?
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Consciousness living a mind wake. Consciousness expressing itself within itself.
Maybe you should learn to tack an "I THINK" on the beginning of that.
Understanding and embracing this clip is when we become self conscious of our conciousness.
The work,of Ian McGilchrist is mind blowing. Must see.
Ian McGilchrist doesn't believe those theories. He talks critically about it.
Brilliant! Your videos are so well done and I can’t get enough of Donald Hoffman. Listening to this one again bcs it’s so interesting. Thank you!
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Yes!!! Love Dr. Hoffman and a 2 hour video with him- count me in 🎉❤☺️
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I like your style ; )
One of the best Dr. Hoffman interviews i’ve ever heard
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I knew it, Dr. Hoffman, your description of reality, your theory, feels true to my insight intuitively. Thank you.
How? It's pseudoscience.
@@kayakMike1000 Science describes what we can perceive, not what we can’t. If true reality is beyond space-time, (as implied in this theory) then we will never be able to prove it scientifically, spacetime is a limit.
I love Donald Hoffman, i vaguely remembering him in the 90s talking about this and not understanding him because I was not open to this stuff and was just a child. But through experience I see that he is way beyond his time. I wish he would explain more on a basic level demonstrations like the microscope and high energy creating a black hole more. I watched everyone of his interviews and have to pick up little by little cause he explains different things in each one.
You asked good questions in this interview.
What a fascinating conversation! Thank You!
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I highly respect Dr Donald Hoffman.
“Do not try and bend the spoon, that’s impossible. Instead only try and realize the truth (what truth you ask?). There is no spoon! Then you will see it’s not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself”.
- Matrix
David Icke wrote in his books that there are people in Eastern Europe who are able to walk through walls. There were people in Mongolia who walked out of prisons that way. He says that our indoctrination goes so deep that we actually establish the walls and we see walls that the collective has set up with their strong belief. Our world is a belief network. This is difficult to comprehend. But I have observed some of that with some things already. It's quite unsettling. Have you heard of the Kozeyrev mirror room?
@@nickidaisydandelion4044 belief is analogous to magic. It sounds crazy but belief is the one thing in life that truly makes the most change.
@@jacobvanveit3437 Yes that is what it seems like. I admire Wim Hof and people who keep their mind upright and positive no matter how much garbage and chaos and suffering is going on in the world. What really bothers me is the mind control done by the CIA against anyone who is more resistant to brainwashing. This is a tough one to deal with for me.
@@nickidaisydandelion4044 I think you mean people that are more susceptible to brainwashing.
Just look at the placebo effect. You are powerful. You can influence the data and perform miracles. Walk in the light.
The theory of everything is an immeasurable consciousness who created everything around us, including us. One whose mind and knowledge can can never be fully comprehended by our finite brains.. So, yes, we will ALWAYS be searching. What we should be searching for primarily is THE CREATOR.
@@SpiritLevel888 I agree 1000% ❤️
This is a very interesting conversation. Thank you for posting. I have the idea that the way physicists are approaching their comprehension of the world is not right, finding a theory of everything is like going with a car inside a lake, the car works for a road, you need a boat to navigate a lake. The analogy is to theories breaking down in singularity or consciousness. We need new math, new theories and new experiments.
I think people unfamiliar with the ancient philosophical trichotomy of materialism/dualism/idealism are more impressed with this guy than they ought to be. He brings some reserch (good or bad) to the table, but the idea that consciousness and not external existence is primary is old and widely discussed long before he was even born.
Substances like psychedelics when administered temporarily and in the minimum and safe dose can save life (prevent suicide), yet..long term all of them are NOT the answer (solution to the problem). self honesty, emotional and spiritual healing (done correctly) produce safe and lasting results..health happiness, inner peace
I’ve been researching on psychedelics and it’s benefits to individuals dealing with Anxiety, Depression, ADHD and from my findings, they really work and I’ve been eager to get some for a while but its been difficult to get my hands on them.
The Trips I've been having really helped me a lot. I’m now able to meditate and I finally feel in control of my emotions and my future and things that used to be mundane to me now seem incredible and full of nuance on top of that I'm way less driven by my ego and I have alot more empathy as well
I was having this constant, unbearable anxiety due to work stress. Not until I came across a very intelligent mycologist. He saved my life honestly
His name is *DR Adolf Petter*
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I feel the same way too. I put too much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels. I am also glad to be a part of this community.
1:18:47 I am beginning to appreciate Dr. Hoffman’s grievance here, and it is a real one. Dogmatism within religion is deadly and must be stopped at all costs. I come from a religious tradition that says my God’s entire Law hangs on loving my neighbor, because no one who loves one’s neighbor harms them. However, of course I have seen how Christianity has been used to justify stealing, killing, and destroying around the world for potentially thousands of years. How could a religion stray so far from its true purpose? This is a question that keeps Christians up at night, and I’m very thankful that Dr. Hoffman is also wrestling with this problem.
Religion evolves. That is what is missing from modern Christian denominations. The Bible describes evolution as “The Mystery of The Two Olive Trees.” Members from the cultivated olive tree are cut off to make room for members from the uncultivated olive tree to be unnaturally grafted on. This process takes place every generation. And there is, in every generation, a hyperreligious, arrogant group of people who resist such evolution. They are the members that get cut off, such as the Pharisees, Saul’s line as king of Israel, the humans who lived during the days of Noah, or Satan and his angels. This event is called “The Repentance of The LORD,” in which God repents of creating certain members of His Body and forcibly removes them by “plucking out and chopping off the member that would lead us to temptation.”
In their place, God chooses the foolish things of the world, the weak things, the last things, the things that are not, and the humble things to be unnaturally grafted on to His Body, the cultivated olive tree. This process is called “The Ascension of The Scapegoat.”
The Repentance of The LORD is happening today, and those dogmatic religious people Dr. Hoffman is talking about are going to be forcibly removed and replaced by others who will do better than them.
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Christianity talks a good game but I’ve never seen a "Christian" live Luke 14:33 and never will
I love this podcast! I was excited to see Donald Hoffman as a guest with you. Your conversational style is admirable ❤️🪷🙏☸️
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Finally cosmologists have become spiritual masters with deep insights! Space-time no longer primary, mind is
@@gazmasonik2411 all is mind Hermetic principality
Thank you so much!
These are exciting times, for as long as I can remember I have Wondered who am I, why am I here, what is This place, Why is Earth such a angry dangerous place while being Amazing and Beautiful. And other life in the universe..what is their story? Thank you for discussing this.
You are both cracking open our understanding of what we are to reveal new fascinating perspectives ❤
one of the best interviews on youtube, thank you 👏
This has the opposite presumed affect, by being the glue of my already deconstructed sense of reality. I have had several decades of interdimensional contact with something, and have spent my entire life since, trying to make the most sense of it. I'm just a normal person, with a pretty normal life.
I liken it to a healthy sort of schizophrenia, I don't see threatening entities or hear voices telling me bad things. I have the opposite going on. The entity I see and hear is helpful and kind, but sometimes can show me some frightening things. Its for real, but it still can be very horrifying to experience.
I thought I WAS going crazy.
I fell asleep the first go, it was late for me. Giving it another watch now because it really helped tie in my own thoughts and logic about whatever it is that I go through.
What happens to me is intensified through psychedelics, but is not caused by, or reliant on them. It just happens. I actually haven't used them much since it started happening, except for a few times, since the 90's. In fact, the few times I HAVE done them in the more recent past, I did not have the interdimensional phenomena occur. It was just normal psychedelic experience.
The interdimensional stuff happens when it wants to.
I don't know what to call it, but I sure am glad this is being talked about these days. I have suffered in silence for a long time over it all.
I did DMT daily for a while to treat a spinal cord injury and after a few months I got an inkling of "contact" with entities during times I was completely sober.
@@istantinoplebullconsta642 Cool, thanks! This adds to the theory that psychedelics unlock certain filters. Whatever I have going on, began in childhood after the injury. I had an OBE at 5 and watched my own beating taking place from above my body. It took a long time to figure out what that was, I was very puzzled by it as a child. I now can see, what I thought was my imagination, was really the earlier versions of this communication. Our Spinal Cord is very Key to this process. I still can't be very sure of anything, but I know its entirely connected to my consciousness. There ARE outward effects in the physical world though. Its not ALL just in my head.
We are the New Pioneers.
Best thing I've ever seen on YT, Thank you both, All💖🤍💙✌️🌎
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Excellent!! Thank you!!!
Fascinating conversation. Grateful I've found your channel. I feel like I just walked up to the mirror and poked it to watch the ripples. Reluctant to admit this but had to pause around an hour in and watch the old Monty Python dead parrot sketch....
There's a Shadow behind every Truth until the final Truth. The final Truth is that Life is Consciousness. Everything below that is based on an individual's beliefs and experiences. We're all a fragment of creation itself. We are pure Spirit/Existence...💎♾️🙏
Great video, thanks. Donald is very much on the same page as Tom Campbell's My Big Toe (Theory Of Everything) - Consciousness is fundamental and our reality may be modelled as if it were a simulated virtual reality which is part of Consciousness's strategy to evolve it's own being (by increasing co-operation, love etc)
Tom doesn't talk about the arcontes feeding off humans and creating the hologram that veils reality
I am not a scientist but I was blessed with ability to read the informational field via intentional ecological request to aquire truth about any topic. I get chills when Dr. HOFFMAN talking. We observe our reality by creating our personal hologram in 360 degree field screen projected from the inside to the outside in a specific frequency which represents the level of a person and there are 9 levels of consciousness. 7 represent our chakras and 2 above head in our aura. 70% population is on the first level. Only 3% on 4th and rest in between. We all generate our own reality by harvesting energy via DNA structure. And our outside reality is built based on sacred geometry and complicated mathematical formulas involving operators for each specific function used for varios kinds of materialization. Won't go further... most wont get it...
sounds like Nassim Haramin ? th-cam.com/video/jN3Sg42-6-E/w-d-xo.html
This Resonates with the way I am seeing Reality!!
Many Thanks for Enlightening and Clarifying things in such a great way!!
Wow that opening dialogue was eye opening. Literally my eyes widened when taking that theory in.
I love that throughout the conversation he keeps referring to you as Michael Phelps 😂
We look VERY alike…
Honestly, I think he’s saying “Phillips,” but it still hurts.
I love the background groove....literally dancing while listening 3 minutes in! 😅❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
If truth can be seen, everyone will see it.
The amplituhedron is so fascinating. To me, it is so eerily similar to the revelations of the 'Big Ring' and 'Giant arc' structures in astronomy/astrophysics. It seems we keep finding these "pointers" as you say. The harder we dig into the sciences, the more we keep finding these things that defy any understanding we thought we had about our reality, almost a wink and a nod from the universe. Especially as Dr. Hoffman says it perpetuates new theories and new understandings of the thing that is life, spacetime, the machine, etc.
We think we know, and the mother laughs!
I've been interested in Advaita Vedanta as a companion philosophy to what Donald Hoffman says.
There are some quite recent videos with Donald Hoffman and Swami Sarvapriyananda on yt.
Me too. They match
Just realised how brilliant the name of the page is third eye drops how clever ❤❤
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If consciousness is a universal awareness playing peekaboo with itself, as soon as you understand you will fall into forgetfulness to start the game again.
I guess that's exactly how mind at large (AND mind at small 😌) works. For me personally, it's kind of struggeling trying to integrate Hofman's and especially Kastrup's philosophy into my daily life 😉
Old patterns are powerful and most people are scared of new perspectives..
@@Alex-cb7cc I really enjoy your thoughtful and kind reply. Thanks for sharing!
Donald Hoffman is totally right !!!
Six years ago I removed a Yogi teabag’s words of wisdom held by a string attached to the floating teabag. It has been attached to the back of my cell phone ever since: “The unknown is where all outcomes are possible - enter it with Grace.”
Great interview
Not only is time illusion, but fear is an illusion as well
Fear is only for you and your experience. You will create fear from nothing, when you're in danger youve placed yourself into a new situation which you uncertainty pervades reality. You can only overcome fear by avoiding the unknown.
... one only fears the unknown if one has not mastered control over the lower instincts with reasoning and choice.
It's about perspective.
Nothing is truely known, as can be seen in trying to define reality & consciousness.
Knowing is an assumption belief theory only.
Theories are not truth, they are opinions only.
One can understand this concept that nothing is truely known and live/understand accordingly, that the true state of being is a continual state of continuous change, and therefore choose to live with enthusiasm and opportunity rather than fear.
Fear is a tool that the devil uses his only tool deception lies and fear
“They” want you to be afraid. Vibrating on low frequency so that the Phoenix chooses you instead of them, hiding in their bunkers.
The powers that be want you afraid. They forcibly lower your vibration, through fear and trauma so the Phoenix can snatch you up as they hide in their underground bunkers.
Phenomenal interview, lots of interesting material. A shame there are commercials every seven minutes.
We often hear of the hard problem of consciousness. Why is there qualia or experience of anything in the first place? I would submit there is an even harder and more important question - why do I seem to be a specific individual experiencing a specific subset of qualia? If material reductionism is to be relevant to the big questions, then it has to explain not how brains generate consciousness but how the specific brain in my head could create the specific consciousness I seem to be looking out of the eyeballs of this specific body. Why do I PERSONNALLY EXIST as an individual in the first place? Out of the infinite matter in the universe how is it that only the three pounds in my head could create me? What is different about that three pounds for this to occur?
Consider that billions of bodies showed up before this one.
Billions showed up after this one.
None of them seem to have created my existence.
This body could be running around without it being ME just like these billions of others
All bodies are made of the same elements.
All brains have the same basic anatomy.
If all brains are basically the same and are creating consciousness then there should only be ONE consciousness staring out of every set of eyeballs simultaneously.
A hopelessly superimposed existence from every possible viewpoint at once.
I’m sure that materialists would claim that no, no, brains are so complex they are all different.
Ok, so what would have to be recreated in another brain for me to exist staring out of another set of eyeballs?
If an exact copy of my body was created in antarctica would I find myself to exist there freezing my butt off while also sitting in the comfort my living room?
According to the physicalists that would have to be true or their argument collapses into incoherence.
Then in a random universe where things statistically reoccur why couldn’t I exist again or even in more then one place at a time?
Why do the physicalists so adamantly insist that an individualized consciousness could only exist once?
How could pure awareness even be individualized?
Physicalists demand measurements but with consciousness there is nothing to measure.
There is electricity in the brain they say. We’ll measure that.
Is electricity consciousness? If so then once I again I should exist everywhere at once since electricity cannot be individualized.
My blender uses electricity.
Is it a genius?
Unless materialists can answer these questions their premise collapses like the house of cards it is.
As far as other ways of thought are concerned only Dualism and Idealism can account for our sense of individuality. Dualism assumes we are all individual spirits/souls matched up to a body through some undefined process. Idealism, which states that consciousness is primary also answers the question of why I seem to exist as an individual.
One consciousness exists looking out of every set of eyeballs and in the process the illusion of individuality is created in each case. I am you, you are me, we are one.
Yes, the question of consciousness boundaries is a very interesting one for sure.
Material reductionism cant even define consciousness, let alone provide a theory that explains how to get individual aware subjects (i.e. consciousness) from a combination of unconscious objects (i.e. atoms, molecules; baryonic matter). The question remains!
We are all one there is no time, consciousness is not subject to the constraints or space time. In deep meditation I can reach to other worlds and other entities and reach into their mind see what they see. If not for my connection to this body I feel that I will eventually experience all that can be experienced though every vessel for eternity. This is why it is so imperative to love one another and show understanding to never judge and only guide those who are searching
We take in and it is with in us individually and collectively, Consciousness is like sound all around us, like we take in light…then construct space time reality from light, sound, taste, pressure…the lasting of this experience held in memory influenced by learning from others intersections (history) which at this time leads to bias’ about space time…what we seem to be pre-occupied with…
Seeing all of us as expressed Consciousness being fundamental says a lot about this place, your individual or collective experience, that space time just can’t hold.
In my opinion, believing there's only an "illusion of individuality" is the same as the materialist position. It just puts consciousness at an earlier stage of the process. In either scenario, YOU don't truly exist. You're just a set of neurons saying words, not actually reasoning. "I am you, you are me, we are just atoms with empty space in between."
These conversations are creating the reality that is spoken.
Also I wonder if the fact that things fall apart at 1cm -33, that we exist in a limited reality, a little like a computer simulated environment?
Didnt jesus die at 33? 🤔 wow i see the connection
That was a great discussion. Reality boiling down to static geometric shapes! WOW 😲
The headset that filters our categories of thinking (time, space, cause, effect, etc.) only covers the hardware part of cognition. What kind of gaming software is being run through the headset also determine what we think, and why and how we think it. There is at least one game per level of consciousness. Spiral Dynamics has done a pretty fair job mapping out at least eight different cognitive programs that the mind plays as it evolves through the gauntlet of qualities of consciousness generated by our historical development.
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Your intro was great! You pulled me into the nature of the upcoming topic of discussions!! 🤙💕😃
Understanding the new reality broke my avatar's head
I love this talk and I absolutely love this community ❤❤❤
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Doing psychedelics is like taking off the headset
Thank you for making this channel! Awesome content 🏅
Thanks my friend!
In one of my more memorable lsd trips i watched a new star wars movie and everything that happening was as if i was imagining it into existence. Obviously hundreds and hundreds of people worked on it but until i witnessed it none of it exsisted in reality. It was the most profound experience. It reality we have all the power here we are all god. we can make our own lives as perfectly imperfect as we choose to perceive.
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Delightful dip as always. Thanks Michael and don🤩 You know its an interesting area of science when the scientists overlook the obvious interpretation due to its being too far out. Dismissive intuition is a reliable way of obscuring doubtworthyness😂 if i try to present a possibility and instead of hearing me out you subconsciously or consciously hold it up to a bunch of unfounded delusions as a means of determining its likelihood, then you are what we call a closed minded buzzkill.
Thx for asking some new questions. I do wish someone would push harder on the details, and ask for English translations of specialized math terms. You started to once, then quickly backed out. People are not afraid of math, they just need to know what the words mean. I’m sure you want to know too.
That explains y i struggled at science in hschool. We weren't studying d truth. Science wasn't ready for me then!
Just wanted to say (from a very "headset" perspective!) that's it's really useful how you include screenshots of text and images that help to explain the key concepts being discussed. It can get frustrating to have to pause a video and go searching for definitions, especially when dealing with complex and emotionally challenging subject material.
90% of the things people worry about never happen
Unless it’s cancer. People worry themselves into disease.
Michael! You’re doing such admirable work here! Heady stuff. Don’t confuse the map for the territory! Great takeaway.
Thank you brother! 🙏
Wild to me I had a dream about being in an elevator that was a gateway to different spaces and times and by accident traveled to a different time (I was trying to get to a different space in the same time) where Einstein was waiting on the other side of the elevator door...
I have such an elevator too. Very convenient. It's a real mental construct.
LOVE ur "pointers' clarification!
What I get from this is that Hoffman is trying to explain God mathematically.
God's language is maths in fact
I had an obe on mescaline in 1997. Never been the same since. Enjoy this life. That’s why we are here.
You’re not a drop in the ocean, you’re the ocean in a drop, this is where rationality leads. The universe is mind. Unearned wisdom
No. If its not broken don't "fix it"
Incredible name for a podcast by the way
It's funny how he doesn't at all think like an actual scientist and yet thinks exactly like a scientist.
Great podcast... Thank you...
What I don't get about this consciousness only stuff is why is consciousness so weak and pathetic? Only consciousness I'm familiar with is insane people that die from cancer and animals insects etc that have to kill and eat each other to stay alive? What I don't get about materialism is if there's supposed to be an eternity of nothing just because one individual brain isn't existing then why are there billions of people alive and making more people? Plus all the other life forms. This world is to crazy for me wish I could live in a world that made sense and didn't kill everything
Death is an illusion. Look past the emotion.
@@annhidey if it's an illusion then I guess I'll just blow my head off then
@@ericgraham8975 that's one way to look at it.
What we believe becomes inate so what will do we have but the one we follow when we only know limitedly and what's given light is information and illusion all the same dreams in a realty the matrix is not to break free but to hack and challenge the current you in a hall of mirrors which is hell and paradise all in one
This channel is amazing!!!!!!!! I am always running threw these ideas when I am working my 9-5 job it makes the day zoom by 😂😂😂
Welcome!
There is no spoon.
God damn, this is one of my favorite channels ❤
Thank you 🙏
Thank you very much for this deep, heartfelt and pertinent interview, from beginning to the very end. Looking forward to the next one with this -I couldn't agree more- unparalleled genius. I'm so glad (and I feel grateful) that Donald Hoffman is part of the active scientific world today. Also, hopefully, interviews such as this one, will contribute to speeding up the process of appreciating/seriously considering/validating his concrete theory (and others coming from other wise people) during our lifetime --and not only becoming a scientific legacy after 100 years the theory had been postulated! (as it is almost always the case with breakthroughs -very especially- in the scientific world, unfortunately). Thank you so much again
I closed my eyes and his voice and tone is just like Marshal Mcluhan 👍
I just found your videos tonight and im on my 3rd straight . Good stuff .
Love the idea!
I'd love to see Dr. Hoffman in a conversation with Chris Langan as I think there are commonalities in their theories.
Thank you both for the hole conversation !
I wonder if one of you has taken Walter Russell into account or the plasmoidal maths of Malcolm bendall, i think it could match and maybe bring forward the geometrical laws into applieable trancending perspective...