He hit the nail on the head. I have had other brands since 89. I have seen Mathew’s come through time and again replacing entire bows! 14 after Hurricane Rita. Another brand new safari when one was stolen! Something a bow company doesn’t have to do. So I bought a new LIFT simply because of the outstanding customer service. A company second to none
Great comparison video. I recently bought a Mathews lift over a Hoyt alpha x. It was a tough decision but overall I liked the feeling of the Mathews and it was also lighter and faster. Too bad they both had warranty issues, I’ve heard of the lift limbs cracking on other people in the forums but I’m at least confident that Mathews will replace them quickly if it ever happens to me!
What I love Also along with Mathew’s customer service is that Mathew’s still produces and stocks all bow parts for nearly every bow they’ve ever made. You can buy cams and limbs for a thirty year old bow. What other company does that?
I have the rx7 and lift 33 I find myself picking up the lift 99% of the time. I just love the short valley making me hold into the back wall more instead of creeping. It makes me more accurate
I will say I had my old Hoyt for 8 years not one issue but this year I shot the rx8 and the lift and I also went with the Lift just like the way it felt better. I will agree with some comments saying the Hoyt is more durable at least the one I had showed that because I also had the limb crack on my lift within a month but from what I heard Mathews has the issue fixed with the limbs and I will say they had my new limbs within 3 days so great customer service
My limbs cracked too and i went from 70# down to 65.5# as a result. Their customer service was great but in reality I've barely even used the bow I was a little disappointed to have something so major go wrong that quickly
I just got a new lift 33 a couple of weeks ago and the archery shop left me shoot both mathews and viper stabilizers and I went with the viper for $70 compared to $230. You don’t have to use a bridge lock stabilizer. You can use whatever one you want.
The lift in my eyes is better it shots smooth not to heavy very balanced shots quit and powerful. Nothing bad at all to say about it can’t wait to use it this season
That is a big deal. Thank you for your review sir. The Lord allowed me to buy a lift 33. I do believe if anything happens, mathews would stand behind it, in the case of limb splintering. It is nice to gear their turn around on warranty is as quick as possible with mathews. Good luck this season.
I shot my rx8 ultra a lot for 3-4 months. Loved it. Told everybody it was the best bow made…… then the draw mod bolt broke off and it locked at full draw. Hoyt wouldn’t send the parts to fix it. The bow had to go back to them. I’ll never own another Hoyt after getting screwed like this on warranty work. Luckily I own a bow press and I was able to take the string and cables off so it was no longer a bomb waiting to go off. Just talked to Hoyt and they’re still waiting on parts. Do they not make their own parts? The estimation they gave will make it about 8 weeks before it’s in my possession again. Lift 33 here I come!
Wow bro similar story as mine. Got the Hoyt Alpha X 33 and the mod ripped off the cam at full draw same as you. My cams fired a little bit later before I got them home to secure. Hoyt warranted everything but it did take about 3 weeks to get bow back. New cams, mods, limbs and strings etc. I bought a Mathew's Lift 33 in the mean time. I shot a few hundred arrows out of it before I saw delaminating and splintering on an upper limb. I sent it back to Mathews, and they replaced limbs and shipped back. It took about 3 weeks. I got the lift back and shot about 100 arrows and noticed the bottom limbs were splintering now as well. I sent bow back a few days ago. Pretty disappointing to say the least.
I have never heard of anyone shipping there bow back to Mathews. All of there warranty claims are handled through a Mathews retailer. If someone were to ship there bow to Mathews, they would just ship it back and tell you to go to your dealer. Anyone who questions this please email Mathews and ask.
@@jasonbarnes3188 well now you have (everything is being shipped through the dealer). Two reasons I chose to ship bow back to Mathews vs having dealer do repair. (1) I'm not all that confident in my Mathews dealer. (2) But the main reason is I'm not down with Mathews not paying dealers for their labor. Dealers are subsidizing Mathews warranties. I don't care if that is an industry standard. I don't dig it.
My alpha x30 did the same exact thing they had my bow 6 weeks the replaced all 4 limbs both cams and mods and new strings. Then my dads new Mathew’s lift blew up less then 25 arrows the match strings blew up and Mathew’s had his fixed in a week. Mathew’s does have good service but Hoyt did fix it but to me I went with the Hoyt cause everyone shoots Mathew’s so I won’t shoot Mathew’s just cause of that reason lol
As far as the noise goes,I've watched reviews with actual decibel meters Mathews was slightly quieter. They actually had to come out with the phase 4 limbs to stay on top. Now you said in a previous video that Mathews is experiencing limb breakages. I'm curious as to how many limbs you'll go through. Now for the speed, the draw specific module will produce faster speeds. Hoyt ran those in the past and were 9 f.p.s. faster than Mathews. Good luck man, waiting and watching
Mathews has been having a limb cracking problem. I have the same lift (in the same camo) as you. After one month of having it, it derailed at 3/4 draw and cracked the limbs. My bow was at the shop for a month (luckily it wasn’t hunting season). They sent out new limbs, cams, mods, top hats, center roller and guard and they have already began to fix the problem as they come in for warranty. I admit that i am a Mathews fan boy BUT i have shot bow tech, hoyt and PSE. Mathews is by far a better bow company.
@@JayLane maybe a week, if that. The longest part was figuring out why the yoke was touching the cams and figuring out which top hats/shims needed to be used to fix that problem.
@@JayLane honestly, I’ve never shot Mathew’s, and I’ve shot an rx7 custom with 80lb limbs. Only deterrent at the time was the price tag. It was amazing. The deadlock cam system is pretty awesome, I do everything from home so it just makes life easier with less tools.
Shooting Mathews bows since 1993 . I have owned p.s.e elite obsession and shot Hoyt's - stratos-rx8-alpha x so in my own personal opinion 🤔? It all boils down to preference 🤷♂️🏹btw ? I'm sold out on my lift 29.5
Seems like the Phase 4 and Lift limbs have had some cracking issues. I don't currently have a newer model Mathews (still shooting my Creed, SBXT and Monster 6.0) When I get a newer one I was thinking of going with the V3X. Seems like the most dependable new model and still has bridge lock.
So I've always bought the best Bowtech and Mathews since early 2000"s but bowtech really pulled away from mathews around 2016 and I stopped buying mathews, and I just about bought the Lift, but I'm so glad I didn't because I can't believe I'm going to say this, I'M going to buy a PSE mach 30. It's faster, quieter, lighter, and most important is better draw cycle. YEAH I CAN'T BELIEVE IT EITHER!!! LOL
Hey Jay, I tried to find some contact information for you but if you need a set of custom strings for either of your bows, send me a DM. I own Hooked Up Bowstrings and would love to build a set for your Lift, or your Hoyt for that matter
I owned a Hoyt 15ish yrs ago. The customer service SUCKED! Very rude and talked to me like i was a newbie 55 yrs old and have been bowhunting exclusively for 30+. Crazy company. Never again
The engage grips on mathews suck. Also, pretty sure 60 lbs is the lowest mathews go no 50 Edit: you may of been unlucky with the rx8. The lift is known for cracking limbs. Seeing it everywhere. Bow shops, facebook groups, reddit etc
I’d go the PSE or Bowtech. Both great bows and look great too. Mathews bows have always been pig ugly and just keep getting worse. Hoyts look terrible too with that unnecessary and very crap looking loop they have around the grip.
My mod screw snapping at full draw is scary. These bows are mass produced across each brand. there’s going to be issues now matter what but every company handles them different
@@JayLane ee that is scarier! That’s weird because Hoyt dry shot tests the bows. I dry shot my alpha x once and nothing happened except the string came off. Maybe you do have bad luck… lol JK
So you're trying to tell me you went with the Mathews because it broke.................. and they have great customer service! Sorry but if you spend that kind of money on something you should have some faith in your gear. Not have to wake up in the morning and wonder if my Lift limbs are gonna hold up today or not.
Im prejudice against the mathews, i have my own opinion, I hope im never interested in mathews, their slogan is a joke, bowtec and hoyt have been giving mathews a run for their money for years ,
Yes, ms Jay lane Today's engineering is better, but mathews slogan and marketing, sometimes it might be thought of as ,mathews is the end all to be all, I say to anyone, Yeah, good luck with your practice and hunting, that's your choice, but my worldly universe doesn't revole around mathews and it never will, so everyone has their own 99% opinion on everything,
Both sound like garbage. Warranty work on a new bow, for that kind of money?? Been shooting the same Elite bow for the past 8 yrs. Snow, sleet, rain, mud, brush, dropping it out of trees. Never an issue.
Immediately I also did not like the grip it felt like my hand was slipping off the grip so I went with a 2.0 and it’s perfect 4 meh🏹💪🏾🔥💣🇺🇸another thing about Mathews bows which I’ve been shooting since 1983 Is the advertised draw weight doesn’t really line up I’ve bought over a dozen + Mathews bows over the last 30 yrs and found out I lost 2-4 pounds after shooting 500 + arrows not good not to mention the limb delaminating issue , yes the single limbs delaminated back in the 90s split limbs delaminate in 2000s and now my lift true to the history ? Just cracked lower left limb …warrenty good service good but this dark cloud over Mathews limb issues has never really left the room 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🏹🤨😴😔🫤😑😵💫
He hit the nail on the head. I have had other brands since 89. I have seen Mathew’s come through time and again replacing entire bows! 14 after Hurricane Rita. Another brand new safari when one was stolen! Something a bow company doesn’t have to do. So I bought a new LIFT simply because of the outstanding customer service. A company second to none
😂 bro you got me cooked over here. Pulling back through to watch again. Its a great bow and shooting lazers.
Great comparison video. I recently bought a Mathews lift over a Hoyt alpha x. It was a tough decision but overall I liked the feeling of the Mathews and it was also lighter and faster.
Too bad they both had warranty issues, I’ve heard of the lift limbs cracking on other people in the forums but I’m at least confident that Mathews will replace them quickly if it ever happens to me!
Same thing happened with my mod screw sheered off and messed my limb up and my module
Solid review bro! I couldn't agree more. After a drawn out decision, I went with the lift as well. Just overall a better setup/deal
What I love Also along with Mathew’s customer service is that Mathew’s still produces and stocks all bow parts for nearly every bow they’ve ever made. You can buy cams and limbs for a thirty year old bow. What other company does that?
That’s an extremely valid point. I learned something new today.
@@JayLane black claw makes hoyt after market grips and is close to the UV3
I have the rx7 and lift 33 I find myself picking up the lift 99% of the time. I just love the short valley making me hold into the back wall more instead of creeping. It makes me more accurate
I will say I had my old Hoyt for 8 years not one issue but this year I shot the rx8 and the lift and I also went with the Lift just like the way it felt better. I will agree with some comments saying the Hoyt is more durable at least the one I had showed that because I also had the limb crack on my lift within a month but from what I heard Mathews has the issue fixed with the limbs and I will say they had my new limbs within 3 days so great customer service
My limbs cracked too and i went from 70# down to 65.5# as a result. Their customer service was great but in reality I've barely even used the bow I was a little disappointed to have something so major go wrong that quickly
I have a Lift 29.5... the only thing that I don't like about it is the ridiculous price of their bridge lock stabilizers... ouch!
I have a lift 33. I put Viper stabilizer on mine. Fits the bridge lock perfectly. Came with a similar Set Screw Knob as Mathew’s. Cost like $80 bucks.
Yeah tbh I think I might switch to a regular stabilizer I don’t even really use it shorter anyways
Gonna have to look into that
I used the viper stabilizers and they are 1/3 the price and good
I just got a new lift 33 a couple of weeks ago and the archery shop left me shoot both mathews and viper stabilizers and I went with the viper for $70 compared to $230. You don’t have to use a bridge lock stabilizer. You can use whatever one you want.
I shot both, bought the Mathew’s. Better in my opinion, but both are top of the line, it is all personal preference
How is the splitter from the Matthew? I heard they broke the record of blowtech for blowing its limbs lol
The lift in my eyes is better it shots smooth not to heavy very balanced shots quit and powerful. Nothing bad at all to say about it can’t wait to use it this season
Can’t go wrong with the lift
That is a big deal. Thank you for your review sir. The Lord allowed me to buy a lift 33. I do believe if anything happens, mathews would stand behind it, in the case of limb splintering. It is nice to gear their turn around on warranty is as quick as possible with mathews. Good luck this season.
To me, there’s just too many cracked limbs out there on the Mathews. You don’t nearly hear as much with Hoyt.
I shot my rx8 ultra a lot for 3-4 months. Loved it. Told everybody it was the best bow made…… then the draw mod bolt broke off and it locked at full draw. Hoyt wouldn’t send the parts to fix it. The bow had to go back to them. I’ll never own another Hoyt after getting screwed like this on warranty work. Luckily I own a bow press and I was able to take the string and cables off so it was no longer a bomb waiting to go off. Just talked to Hoyt and they’re still waiting on parts. Do they not make their own parts? The estimation they gave will make it about 8 weeks before it’s in my possession again. Lift 33 here I come!
Wow bro similar story as mine. Got the Hoyt Alpha X 33 and the mod ripped off the cam at full draw same as you. My cams fired a little bit later before I got them home to secure. Hoyt warranted everything but it did take about 3 weeks to get bow back. New cams, mods, limbs and strings etc. I bought a Mathew's Lift 33 in the mean time. I shot a few hundred arrows out of it before I saw delaminating and splintering on an upper limb. I sent it back to Mathews, and they replaced limbs and shipped back. It took about 3 weeks. I got the lift back and shot about 100 arrows and noticed the bottom limbs were splintering now as well. I sent bow back a few days ago. Pretty disappointing to say the least.
It’s suck with how expensive these bows are to run into issues like that. Hopefully they get you taken care before the season starts
I have never heard of anyone shipping there bow back to Mathews. All of there warranty claims are handled through a Mathews retailer. If someone were to ship there bow to Mathews, they would just ship it back and tell you to go to your dealer. Anyone who questions this please email Mathews and ask.
@@jasonbarnes3188 well now you have (everything is being shipped through the dealer). Two reasons I chose to ship bow back to Mathews vs having dealer do repair. (1) I'm not all that confident in my Mathews dealer. (2) But the main reason is I'm not down with Mathews not paying dealers for their labor. Dealers are subsidizing Mathews warranties. I don't care if that is an industry standard. I don't dig it.
My alpha x30 did the same exact thing they had my bow 6 weeks the replaced all 4 limbs both cams and mods and new strings. Then my dads new Mathew’s lift blew up less then 25 arrows the match strings blew up and Mathew’s had his fixed in a week. Mathew’s does have good service but Hoyt did fix it but to me I went with the Hoyt cause everyone shoots Mathew’s so I won’t shoot Mathew’s just cause of that reason lol
@@hunterbragg2566 to each their own but I’m glad they took care of you at the end of the day
As far as the noise goes,I've watched reviews with actual decibel meters Mathews was slightly quieter. They actually had to come out with the phase 4 limbs to stay on top. Now you said in a previous video that Mathews is experiencing limb breakages. I'm curious as to how many limbs you'll go through. Now for the speed, the draw specific module will produce faster speeds. Hoyt ran those in the past and were 9 f.p.s. faster than Mathews. Good luck man, waiting and watching
@@brucehillbillybarthalow3786 limb total so far is 1😂
Mathews has been having a limb cracking problem. I have the same lift (in the same camo) as you. After one month of having it, it derailed at 3/4 draw and cracked the limbs. My bow was at the shop for a month (luckily it wasn’t hunting season). They sent out new limbs, cams, mods, top hats, center roller and guard and they have already began to fix the problem as they come in for warranty. I admit that i am a Mathews fan boy BUT i have shot bow tech, hoyt and PSE. Mathews is by far a better bow company.
@@RyHagerBowhunting did your local shop fix it or did they send it off
@@JayLaneMathews sent the parts and my local shop fixed it
@@RyHagerBowhunting how long did Mathew’s take to send the parts
@@JayLane maybe a week, if that. The longest part was figuring out why the yoke was touching the cams and figuring out which top hats/shims needed to be used to fix that problem.
I have had no problems with my limbs what weight draw and arrow weight?
For 2 gs they should take care of it asap
Trick video, clear winner Bowtech for ease of use with self tuning cavemen such as myself.
If I’m being honest I haven’t shot a bow tech yet but I might have to try one after this comment
@@JayLane honestly, I’ve never shot Mathew’s, and I’ve shot an rx7 custom with 80lb limbs. Only deterrent at the time was the price tag. It was amazing. The deadlock cam system is pretty awesome, I do everything from home so it just makes life easier with less tools.
Shooting Mathews bows since 1993 . I have owned p.s.e elite obsession and shot Hoyt's - stratos-rx8-alpha x so in my own personal opinion 🤔?
It all boils down to preference 🤷♂️🏹btw ? I'm sold out on my lift 29.5
100% right
Seems like the Phase 4 and Lift limbs have had some cracking issues. I don't currently have a newer model Mathews (still shooting my Creed, SBXT and Monster 6.0) When I get a newer one I was thinking of going with the V3X. Seems like the most dependable new model and still has bridge lock.
Limb issue and mod issue with mathews and hoyts this year is crazy
Yeah I feel like it’s just the number of bows being made
So I've always bought the best Bowtech and Mathews since early 2000"s but bowtech really pulled away from mathews around 2016 and I stopped buying mathews, and I just about bought the Lift, but I'm so glad I didn't because I can't believe I'm going to say this, I'M going to buy a PSE mach 30. It's faster, quieter, lighter, and most important is better draw cycle. YEAH I CAN'T BELIEVE IT EITHER!!! LOL
Hey Jay, I tried to find some contact information for you but if you need a set of custom strings for either of your bows, send me a DM. I own Hooked Up Bowstrings and would love to build a set for your Lift, or your Hoyt for that matter
@@MattMillardOutdoors that would be dope! My IG is @jaylane
awesome video, keep up the archery content
Thanks Austin!
Well done!
Thank you!
There's a total peep grip for the hoyt now
I’ll have to check it out
@JayLane I had one for my alpha x but I sold the bow and selling my lift sticking with darton sequel 31 and 33 there great bows
I owned a Hoyt 15ish yrs ago. The customer service SUCKED! Very rude and talked to me like i was a newbie
55 yrs old and have been bowhunting exclusively for 30+.
Crazy company. Never again
The engage grips on mathews suck. Also, pretty sure 60 lbs is the lowest mathews go no 50
Edit: you may of been unlucky with the rx8. The lift is known for cracking limbs. Seeing it everywhere. Bow shops, facebook groups, reddit etc
I’d go the PSE or Bowtech. Both great bows and look great too. Mathews bows have always been pig ugly and just keep getting worse. Hoyts look terrible too with that unnecessary and very crap looking loop they have around the grip.
U quit bodybuilding?
Nope I still pick things up and put them down
Cracked limbs is a bit scary and would make me avoid Mathew’s. Sorry.
My mod screw snapping at full draw is scary. These bows are mass produced across each brand. there’s going to be issues now matter what but every company handles them different
@@JayLane ee that is scarier! That’s weird because Hoyt dry shot tests the bows. I dry shot my alpha x once and nothing happened except the string came off. Maybe you do have bad luck… lol JK
@@mikezmac no I def do😂
Good video
Glad you enjoyed
Hoyt wins…since the limbs won’t need warranted 3 times in its lifetime… sad to say…. But I can’t defend Mathews on this one…sorry
I guess only time will tell
Mathews lift limbs blow up all over the place will buy Mathews next year when they solved the issues
The limbs cracked?! Wtf
Crazy right
So you're trying to tell me you went with the Mathews because it broke.................. and they have great customer service! Sorry but if you spend that kind of money on something you should have some faith in your gear. Not have to wake up in the morning and wonder if my Lift limbs are gonna hold up today or not.
@@bennettJ5120 my Hoyt broke too
Im prejudice against the mathews, i have my own opinion, I hope im never interested in mathews, their slogan is a joke, bowtec and hoyt have been giving mathews a run for their money for years ,
I don’t have a opinion on bow tech but all the top companies are so close bows are so good now a days
Hoyt post service is shit, i will never buy one again
Yes, ms Jay lane
Today's engineering is better, but mathews slogan and marketing, sometimes it might be thought of as ,mathews is the end all to be all, I say to anyone, Yeah, good luck with your practice and hunting, that's your choice, but my worldly universe doesn't revole around mathews and it never will, so everyone has their own 99% opinion on everything,
This comment makes it seem like I’m a Matthew’s fanboy😂
Wow so they both absolutely suck lol
Both sound like garbage. Warranty work on a new bow, for that kind of money?? Been shooting the same Elite bow for the past 8 yrs. Snow, sleet, rain, mud, brush, dropping it out of trees. Never an issue.
Good for you.
X2 just ordered a rx8 for shits and giggles
There’s plenty of people on Hoyt and Team Matthew’s that have shot the same bow for 10+ years I think I’m just unlucky
@JayLane I'm glad you got your equipment fixed. Good luck on the upcoming hunting season!!
Elite blows. You're a clown
lol PAUSE
Immediately I also did not like the grip it felt like my hand was slipping off the grip so I went with a 2.0 and it’s perfect 4 meh🏹💪🏾🔥💣🇺🇸another thing about Mathews bows which I’ve been shooting since 1983
Is the advertised draw weight doesn’t really line up I’ve bought over a dozen + Mathews bows over the last 30 yrs and found out I lost 2-4 pounds after shooting 500 + arrows not good not to mention the limb delaminating issue , yes the single limbs delaminated back in the 90s split limbs delaminate in 2000s and now my lift true to the history ? Just cracked lower left limb …warrenty good service good but this dark cloud over Mathews limb issues has never really left the room 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🏹🤨😴😔🫤😑😵💫
The winner is… PSE