Why is the Honda Accord So Hated?
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- Hondas are some of the most fun cars to build. They are light weight, have an insane amount of engine options, and are a great way to start out your car loving career. With the Honda Civic usually being the preferred Honda platform for builds - one sometimes gets overlooked. The Honda Accord is a rare sight to see with engine swaps or turbo builds anymore, and I think that is a real shame. This H23 swapped Honda Accord shows you can take this generation Accord and truly make something special - so let's talk about it.
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I never knew the honda accord was hated. I always thought it was amongst the best selling mid sized cars.
It is. I wouldn’t necessarily say the cars themselves are hated it’s more or less the owners.
They never really got the love that the Civic coupes and hatches did. The accord, no matter how nice or modified, was always viewed as a high school car. Ive never heard one person praise the accord as anything other than a run around or hogh schoolers car.
That's because it is. Nobody actually hates these cars
Hated by tuners not regular commuters.
@@johnkrstyen7351 That's not true at all. People have been modifying Accords ever since they came out, especially because a lot of them came with awesome engines (the EuroR in particular)
ThedudeinBlue with Every car that ever existed: WHY IS THIS CAR HATED
CAME TO SAY THIS!
It gets clicksss
Ikr. Clickbait.
Came here to say this, Accords are not hated.
It’s one of the best commuters
@@connoisseuroftigolbitts he did the same to the Prelude, which imo is a great car and held up amazing til today (30 years). i wish he reviewed the 1992-1996 generation. Its superb around corners.
Literally never heard someone say a single bad thing about an accord except for about their styling which of course they gradually get used to and eventually love and then hate that they change it.
The captive rotors are a pain in the ass. That's it though.
clickbait titles
I didn't like 7th gens before, thought they were too short looking, and now I own one and I never wanna let it go.
Same here I don't know how the title relates to a Honda accords, everybody knows they are great cars I've only heard positive things
Exactly, I have a 06 accord coupe and I didn't like the body style in 06 but I love it now 😂.
David was amazing to work with! Really a nice guy through the whole process and that day was a lot of fun thanks for the shout-out. I know this car isn't as crazy as a lot of the other ones but it's my baby and I really appreciate it!
Hey Logan! The video turned out awesome as we expected! Congrats man
You'd probably love my accord/torneo euro R if you love your accord as much as you say
Hey man your car is beautiful, I love that you restored it. These cars never seem to get love. I'm restoring my 1993 Mazda 626 in the future, and seeing how well your car came out after it's sorry condition is giving me motivation(my Mazda is quite clapped currently lmao).
Shes clean brah
This is news to me... I own a 94 sedan and 95 wagon and know of a huge community of people that love 5th gens.
I would love to own one of these as a first project. It sucks you can’t find too many clean examples anymore
I almost mentioned that myself, it's IMPOSSIBLE to find clean examples, and because it's not an "enthusiasts" car you don't even see them at all on BAT!
The coupe was the nicest with influences from the NSX.
I have one bone stock mint condition for sale in ga
Look into importing a JDM Honda. They can be low miles, clean, and you get extra street cred for the right hand drive.
@@Obsidian762 this might be the move tbh
Very untrue comment, you aren’t looking hard enough they are out there
These are slept on. Sure they’re not as light and nimble as the civics. That said they have character where it counts if you put the right motor into one. I recently got a 93 accord with a JDM H22A and it has been a blast to drive.
I had a 93 with the f22a6. Loved the sound of it with a nice header and a glass pack.
These are not "slept" on, nor "hated" ..the new gen of car enthusiasts are just late to the party..people buy them with 3 4 hundred thou on the dash and they still pull strong
@@joshsimmons2663 never really got the chance to experience the F22 but man does this H22 scream. It has a very quiet exhaust on it (like 2 resonators and a muffler). But the engine itself is loud with the intake. Has the 5 speed too so I get the enjoyment of rowing gears
@@MFullaStyle I mean that as they died off. The person who I bought mine from even told me around the late 2000’s everything started to dip down for the Accords. Now looking for things, I mainly can only find suspension and a hand full of wheels. Luckily, they’re legos so I can swap over the 5 lug from the newer accords. I also talk to a big Honda group in my city and even they state they no longer see anything Accord related from the 90’s. Hell the prelude is uncommon too.
I can't find an H engine online. I wanted to swap my prelude si to h22 but, no luck yet.
I’ve owned 6th, 7th, and 8th gen coupes. My favorite is my 7th gen v6 6-speed. I would love to see you review a manual coupe with a j series. It’s a phenomenal commuter car that surprises many people. They are way overlooked IMO
I think the 6 speed’s in general are overlooked. I’m doing a 6 speed swap with a J32 in my 6th gen Sedan. Looking forward to getting it complete.
I have an 04 coupe with the v6 and I love it
....but it's an automatic 🙁
@@vtec224 And pair that with a CVT and now you got boring modern mom car.
7th gen 6/6 is always slept on
@@yt-user03561 I have the same with the auto don’t feel bad they can be quick. Mine is fbo will be dyno tuned soon
I had a '99 Accord EX 5spd manual. It had a sunroof, rear spoiler, and stock chrome rims. That car was so awesome and reliable. I'd still drive it today had I not wrecked it 😔
Same here man. 99 Accord, except mine was an auto, but I bought it with subs and a Magnaflow that had previously been on a Ram 3500. Such a good first car. Mine got stolen.
@@HiDDENk00l I'm sorry to hear that it got stolen. I hope your car is doing well out there wherever it is. Life is strange, it may return at some point, and I hope it does.
I honestly love how well the designs of the older accords and civics have aged
Dude went from a TT GT500 to an old Accord. that's why I love David. The variety of reviews on this channel is amazing
Never been a Honda person, but I can imagine it’s comfortable, and reliable as can be. I’m sure pretty fun though especially as a manual. A great daily I’m sure!
I’m going a 6+6 swap in my 02 Accord that’s a 6th gen. J32 with the 6 speed manual should be a lot of fun.
I have one a 98 with 432491mi and counting. Oh vtec is actually fun!
Growing up, my mom had one as our family car, just the LX model. I can confirm that its comfortable and for its time, very quiet inside. Great daily driver confirmed!
They literally use them in professional racing
You my friend just described a Toyota.
Honda is innovative. They do things other company’s don’t. They take risks but at the same time keep it some what reliable. I love people who say” I’m not a Honda person” just to get gapped my my boosted ap1🤣😂 dodge is calling payments due pal
I had this generation as an EX coupe with the manual. So much fun. I considered doing an h22 jdm prelude engine swap but never did
I have this coupe manual too really want that swap 😂
I had 3 accords in the 94-97 generation back in the day… I loved those things. They were wide, super stable when updated suspension was added and more comfortable and nicer than the Civics of the day. Also the 2.2liters I had sounded better as well. Thanks for the trip down memory lane
How about the AT transmisión on these gen are reliable ?
@@ivancocco4822 Two of them were manuals, zero issue. One was a 1994 and was auto, I beat that poor car to death but the trans never skipped a beat.
That generation the auto trans was pretty strong, the next gen - 1998-2002 the V6 trans has a lot of issues.
Not sure if that helps but it’s what I experienced. I was a Honda apprentice mechanic 2002-2004 so my knowledge is pretty focused on 90’s-00’s era.
This was the first car I ever owned! It had a F22B1 VTEC, but with an H23 head swap. This thing was a blast. I wish I never got rid of the CD4 ACCORD. I’m trying to find my old car if not something similar.
Super grateful for my dad gifting me a 5th gen accord as my first car. It has 200k miles, and has had plenty of issues pop up, but being able to work on these things myself without hassle (except the stupid captive rotors) has been a blessing. Love my accord. I even installed coil overs and cold air intake myself!
Always loved that gen Accord. Not sure if I’m in the minority but I always thought the 94-95 front end looked slightly more aggressive than the 96-97 refresh front end. 94-95 wagon lowered on 18” wheels with H22 and manual gearbox would be the perfect combo.
V6 Accords get much more respect, due to better performance out of the box. Especially the 7th and 8th gen with the 6 speed. The Accord is a bigger Civic. You want an Accord with VTEC, it just makes sense to get a Civic instead for most.
Not really, they are heavier. The sohc VTEC is just playful and can make more power with a turbo.
I smoke a v6 accord with my single cam guy tried to do me dirty I wasn’t having it couldn’t even keep up with me on the highway 🤷🏽♂️
@@hondish3217the 4 cylinders have always done that. 0-60 is about the same but the 4 cylinders scream up top
I had a 1994 with the base VTEC motor and had dreams to H22 swap it but sold it before I had a chance. It is by far my favorite generation of accord and one day I hope to get another to replace it! Glad to see such a clean build getting love and attention!
Have an 01 Prelude H22 on HP 19' rims on Eibach springs with full HP header straight to HP exhaust with a Injen intake and carbon hood , trunk , headlights and taillights and I love my car it handles like its on rails and when it cracks VTEC it always makes me smile !
I never hated the accord i still plan on owning one and tuning like point 2 point turbo's accord i went to prison behind these cars but it was a really reliable vehicle...i especially like the wagon 😎
Most underrated car reviewer
He has 1.24 million I don’t consider that underrated 😂
@@LongBeachPyro 😅
Very awesome! I had a 94 Prelude 4ws with a H22a swap out of Japan. That car cornered like it was on rails and was fast!! I should have never sold it! Nice video and thanks for this trip down memory lane.
I daily a 97 EX sedan with 322k on it. Amazingly well put together car. My sweetheart car is a 1990 Accord EX that I manual swapped then rebuilt the engine in. The general consensus is that the 4th gen was the most favorite Accord followed by 3rd then 5th. 5th gen is nice, but the interior quality materials and design started cheapening a little bit more compared to 3rd and 4th due to the economy at the time so cost cutting was evident, though it did become more modern in design that previous gens. I also think 90-93 had a more aggressive design. I had a 91 wagon before that that had a Accord type R h22 red top with a t2w4 lsd manual in it.. that thing was spectacular, and I kept the AC and PS. Sounds like the 4th gen Si lude transmission isn't the best match for vtec in this car.. gears are way too long. The best combination is to get a h22 trans and use the Accord 5th gear so it's not revving 4k @ 80mph.
i just got a 96 ex with 179k on it!
love my 8th gen exl v6 coupe. the 6spd really brings it alive and the j series engine makes smooth fun and reliable power. not to mention the styling is great. more people should definitely get into accords.
Ieope wanna D... ride one if the reasons I steered away from the tuner scene everyone wants you to nave a sporty car or a car bu their standard which is bogus I'm my opinion
Finally I been waiting on this. Very slept on platform for sure. They ride so well. Got the 91 and the 96 Accord.
My parents had this when I was a kid and I loved it so much because of how sporty it looked and felt. Now I drive a 2016 Accord Sport with the K24.
The CB7 will always have a special place in my heart. I had a minty fresh 91 DX as a 1st car from my grandma with no airbags and crank windows. Sold it to some kid who of course totaled it immediately. Still miss that car, body lines on the 4th gen were perfect 😢
I've been saying this since I got in the car scene. My first car was a cb7 1990 accord. I boosted the f22a6 in it.i gapped civics and mustangs all day. So when I got deeper people told me civics are better than accords. I was like what? Since then I have owned nothing but accords. I own a 1994 and a 1998 right now but people sleep on out chassis. Those j accords are nice too. People always jump to every other honda and I hate that. Thanks for this episode dude.
The F22A4 is fucking indestructible with a 5 speed.
I have a 1996 accord ex sedan I plan on putting a twin turbo charge in it and a computer system with a added on straight pipe once i take the muffler off😭❤️
@@giovanicastro3564did u do it?
I have a 06 4cyl accord back home and miss it a lot, it was my first car so i’ve made a lot of car memories with it. Stock k24 with wheel and suspension mods cleaned up really nice.
As a Honda fan and 5th time Civic owner i would say the Accords are under appreciated. Before my current FG4 i was looking at V6 Accords with the J series motor. I recently heard a modified one and it sounded amazing yet unique.
I've always been an Accord fanboy. Some of the sickest rides back in the day were those Accord coupes. In fact, the most affordable "tuner" cars were Accords because kids would get them from their mom or dad. I remember falling in love with the 6th Gen Coupe in 1997 when it first hit the market. I walked past one everyday at University. One of the profs drove it. Thought it was so sick. Even today, I'd drive an older Accord no problem. I also liked the Acura Vigors. Thinking about buying a JDM version as I live in Japan. They are called "Inspire" here. Not many people know that, but I do.
How is it out there? I plan on moving there in the near future
Love that build, clean is always the way to go man I swear
My first car I modified was a 96 SiR that I got imported from Canada. Had the actual CD6 chassis code with the H22a and 5mt. Fantastic cars and I miss mine regularly.
I've always loved the accord! I've owned a 91, 97,and now I own a 19 Accord 2.0T
watching this brings back memories of my 97 accord with the f20b2. was a beast of a first car for a 97 baby like myself, car was made same year i was born.
My first car was a 94 accord 2door with an H22. It’s the car that introduced me to car culture, an affordable way for a kid to get involved. I honestly miss that car sometimes.
This video popped up on my feed after I just got an H22A for my 6th gen. Grew up on accords and always loved them ❤
My dad had one when I was a kid and I’ve wanted one of my own ever since!
I’d have taken that Accord back in the day as a first car. Easy to work on like David said and can be fun.
This was my first car, 95 accord f22 VTEC, I jumped the car, reverse donuts in it, e brake slides, burnouts, raced everything I came up next to, etc. I beat the car everyday as hard as I could for about a year before someone rear ended me and totaled it. The car WOULD NOT die. It will forever hold a place in my heart, definitely an unappreciated platform. Thanks for the video!
Next video from that dude in blue: “does the MK4 Supra deserve the hate?”
My first car (that wasn't a hand-me-down) was an '88 Accord. Love that car to this day. Would love to get into an early 90s Accord project.
There is a 99 accord in my front yard and a 01 that's my dad 😮
Drove a boosted f23 6th gen for 5 years. was my first car and first manual car. I learned a lot from that car and miss it still 8 years later
I love the Accord Chasis , I have a mint 1992 Accord EX AKA CB7 no rust very clean with a H23A Swap full Bolt ons.
pushing 220whp Tuned.
Anyone else kind of trip out that car's we used to see all over when we were younger are now becoming coveted and prized? Like legit a honda accord from the 90's, a car many of my family members owned which i never batted an eye at, is special now?! Crazy man.
94 accord was my 1st car ever. So much nostalgia just seeing the interior 🤩
This is one of the nicest 5th gen Accord builds I think I've seen. Great color too!
I had a '97 Acura 2.2CL, manual, with a full tokico suspension, brembo brakes all around, etc...same car. Totally underrated, as well!
Always awesome builds and videos😎✌️
I used to have cd5 accord. With a lot of Jdm parts with a h22A swap. I didn’t get a lot of love back then. But now, I do see more people appreciate this gen accord.
Finally my car is featured! Love the clickbait title as always 😂
To sum up why these aren't seen as often: parts are rare. Like really rare. To the point where it has taken me over 5 years to collect specific parts for what I need for my H22A1 swap and exterior making it a JTCC touring car replica. In the span I found my car in 2017, an enthusiast in Thailand hand made replica parts for the car! I finally received them this year in 2023 and prior to 2020, literally it didn't exist. It's all lost in the times with many sought after parts being held by owners to this day or hidden away.
Glad you got to experience a nice example of one!
Just Titled my 1994 Accord with 25k original miles. Was my Fathers car , when he passed in 2012 i changed the oil and put it away in the garage as i already had 3 cars. After 8 years i was in an accident with my truck. I went to tile honda but misplace title, that was 2020. Found it and just recently titled it. Brought to Mobil one oil change place and the owner wanted to buy it. 12 years in the garage new battery starts right up (no check engine light)it had 4 brand new Michelins on it that dry rotted and had to be changed as well. Running a little rough till the computer rel earns. so i took it out for an Italian tune up yesterday and it like it alot!
I have owned multiple accords over the years, adored them all. I presently drive a 2008 accord and still enjoy its simplicity and reliability despite its flaws starting to show due to its age and how much it has been passed along in my family. If possible, I would love to have an engine and transmission rebuild done with full electrical work done so it can last another 20 years easily. Oh, also replacing the seat bolstering would be nice too.
I have owned a 1984, 1986, 1989, 1994, the 2008 I now drive, 1987 accord and have driven the living snot out of all of them. Great cars.
Who hates them like what?
i had a 2002 Accord coupe, 4 cylinder 5 speed and i freaking loved that thing man. that was a great car.
This video is making me nostalgic for my old 95 accord. Sadly it was an automatic and had a lot of issues from years of neglect. Still despite that it had this magic to its drivability
Wanted one in coupe form back in the day. Never panned out but I’ve always liked them.
Nobody hates the accord...
My first project car when I was 18 was a CB7 Accord H22a turbo swapped.. I really want to build another Accord love those older bodies.
My first car, 97 accord. It’s been in the same family its entire life before I bought it and because of that it was kept in very good condition.
Accords can be anything. You can have a great daily, a crazy fast Euro-R, or bagged and classy. 2-doors are nice when modified. And they are big bodied. They are definitely a treat
Awesome video on 5th generation of Accord with H23A Blue top, it is good mild power and torquey. I have my 94 Accord on H23A Blue Top with T2W4, love it. 😁👌
Currently dailying an 1.5t 6 speed Accord. I’m impressed with the midrange torque from turbocharging.
I just picked up a JDM Accord SiR US Wagon. I absolutely LOVE it!!! Got a bunch of plans for it.
My accord still runs and at 260k+ miles. Wish you were able to review my Accord when I met you in Atlanta. I moved back to CA 😢.
I have a Honda civic hybrid with a manual and I’m honestly surprised how fun it is while still hitting 35-50 mpg anywhere I go.
I used to want this chassis as my first car back in high school (early-mid 00s). You can swap in a F20B or H22A easily. A spirited reliable daily driver
My auntie use to have one back then and I actually love the car even if I didn’t know much about cars when I was little. It was just a base model accord with a 5 speed automatic.
I do have a 1995 cd5 accord with a Jdm H22a 5 speed manual swapped. I purchased it back in 1996 with 15k miles. Did the swap back in 2002. Chassis now has 492k miles and the h22a engine at 300k miles. I still love the car to this day.
FINALLY!! I own a 95 accord four door myself and absolutely love it even though mine is rusted with a f22b2 but factory five speed with a sunroof but its my baby and yeah the interior is absolutely amazing for comfort
Sometimes I miss my 2000 3.0 V6 Accord sedan. It was so fun to drive and the looks aged gracefully inside and out.
I got 2 of em. Wago in green with f22B1 and a purple sedan with the f22A. Even the old F block is still a blast
I used to laugh at Honda's until I discovered the Best Motoring series. Now I have a new found respect for them.
The CB7s were popular back in my day and I had a H-swapped 93 EX with that extra plush 90s interior and it was a fun cruiser.
I had a 94 2 door H23. I couldn't wait to get rid of it back then. Now I miss it bad.
My friend had a v6 2 door 1997 accord in 2000 it was super nice and fast back in the day. 😊
I had a CB7 a while back with a H22 swap and that thing was amazing 😍 miss it for sure
I have a 92 CB7 I recently F20B swapped & a 94 CE1 manual swapped wagon. I love them! I drive the wagon more than I do my EG hatch at this point lol. Only bad would be the automatics in the 98-02 & maintenance on the early V6s
I not only muffler delete but completely removed the exhaust system on my 8th gen accord and it sounds so similar to this just bigger backshots. K24 baby
I live for 90’s Hondas! I have the next gen Honda accord coupe “fancy version” AKA the Acura CL 3.0 coupe and loved every minute of owning it. Will miss it for sure.
You've officially reviewed all of the cars i've had- 94 Accord (CD5), 2003 Maxima and a 2016 Q50 3.0t.
I miss my 94 Accord. Definitely wanted to H22 swap it...but broke college kid in 2009 😅
I loved my first two 97 manual Accord .. I miss em both
Had a 92 and 2 2001 V6 Accords. Love them!
Love mine , have a 96 wagon with a full jtcc kit on it , tl type s brembos and lowered on some gram light 57drs with a f20b with a matching t2t4 and a stock 95 coupe
I had a 96 2dr accord ex in high school. I loved that car
One thing I always wanted was a bigger aftermarket for the 8th-9th gen accords. 3.5 6spd and no mods available besides exhaust and coil overs
I had a lowered accord coupe that was almost identical to this car, I miss it.
Ive got a 95 LX that i lifted a couple years ago. Snapped a piston rod on a road trip and recently got another f22b2 put in it while i rebuild and upgrade the original engine.
Had a 99 5spd. Put koni yellow struts, stock coils and replaced rotors with a brembo with hawk pads. Holy hell could that go thru some twisty roads.
Will find another one someday.
All through high school I wanted a 2 door manual trans accord. Never could find one so I ended up getting a prelude si, then a civic coupe
I definitely recommend an 80's - 90's Accord as a first "enthusiast's" car. I had a 91' CB7 and it was a great first car. Was pretty reliable looked good one some really cheap wheels and I was able to hand out with Subaru BRZ's and Hyundai Genesis coupes on the touge. They even thought my car was turbocharged.
I had a v6 accord just like that one. Very quick car especially on the freeway 👍👍
I always loved the coupe accord. I think early 00's. The fastback style one. Always wanted to get a S1 Built awd kit for one.
There is a few of us who adore this Generation Accord specifically. Thanks for making the video.
I have a 6th gen. What a good car. One day it’ll be swapped. They’re underrated!
David, just wanted to say you're such a likeable guy, been watching you for years! I can't believe this is the first 90's Accord you've driven. If you get your hands on a CB7, or the generation before, you'll really understand the love...and I've owned damn near everything under the sun. Accords are amazing!!
I had a Del sol si and wanted to do a h22 swap for the longest time, still one of my favorite 90's car.
I drive a 9th gen earth dreams k series with a cvt. While I wish I had the manual it still offers a lot of fun in an extremely reliable and pretty luxurious ride. Love the look of Accords to except for the 8th gen.
As a proud owner of every usdm flavor of 3rd gen accord, 87,88,89, i can tell you they are the *most* slept on old school platform honda made , also -[pop]- up headlights
You should really try out any Accord V6 with the 6 Speed