Finally a channel that made the right comparison. In all reality the B8 RS5 competes directly with the E92 M3 NOT the B7 chasis. The B7’s compete with the E46 chasis.
Great video…two beautiful well made track cars having some fun. Would love to have both! It's impressive the RS5 won due to the weight ratio compared to the M3. Either way, love the RS5 (own an S5).
Just ordered an RS5 fully loaded. After 3 years of hairy rear wheel driving in the snow and rain with a BMW, decided for the Audi. Both cars are fantastically equal but for me, the traction and better interior quality takes the RS5 above. Move over M3, time to share or give up the podium!
Well, this is a very polite review. I can tell you 1st hand that the RS5 doesn't take corners like the M3. There's a lot of understeer at race pace. The M3's over steer is just a case of not smacking your foot to the floor when exiting a sharp, slow corner. I love both these cars for very different reasons. They both share an amazing sound track though.
Bollocks @Alex Douglas. Consider the poise and stance the RS has through the corners and stop to have a look at how hard the guy in the M3 is working to correct the oversteer. I’ve owned 4 Audis (Current S4) and 2 BMWs (1 x E36 M3) so I think I can have an informed opinion.
there are certain aspects about the M3 that I really like, the bonnet for example, and the mean look the headlights have, but I like the R5 more as a total package somehow...
Prz09 iv saw it but the rs5 was faster around that track, iv been in both and in Ireland and uk where the roads are often wet and slippery you can drive the rs5 slightly faster the awd get the power down better. The m3 is my favourite more fun to drive and very tail happy tho I personally found the e46 easier to drift
For the m3 lovers amongst you, The RS5 can put down 85% of power to it's rear wheels. This is good as permanent rear wheel drive. BUT, after take off, AWD remains which BMW does not have. It's a no brainer. All those M3 lovers out there will be eating their hats if this race was performed in the rain. And YOU KNOW IT. After 3 years of BMW sliding and wheel spinning, I'm opting for all wheel drive. At best both cars are equal in the dry only. My mate who owns an M3 even admits that Audi had bett
Nice video. Both great cars. It is very hard to choose between those two. BMW would be much more fun in summer (drifting). But Audi would more fun and practical during winter, which is very long and snowy here in Finland. As I said. Very hard to choose. At least for me. Both look great, but Audi looks a little more modern. I'm not saying that BMW looks old, but maybe little dated.
I have a 97 A4. Love it still drives beautifully. No out of the ordinary problems. Audi till the death, though BMW makes amazing vehicles. I just prefer Audi. Both Awsome makers.
. . if you want to go into a hedge backwards and meet Jesus . . buy the BMW . . if you want to live to drive buy the Audi . . for 1,000 Audi RS5's and 1,000 BMW M3's registered in 2010 . . today in 2014 888 RS5's are still on the road . . only 368 BMW M3's . . . that stat says a lot . .
MrBusunglueck exported where mate? RHD cars only go to Japan, Ireland, Australia, or Hong Kong. Unless he wasn't talking about the UK. In that case nevermind.
VirusTornado a lot of them still go to russia despite rhd. im just saying that its bullshit to suggest that all of the 650 m3s or so have been crashed. thats just a stupid assumption to make.
Both great cars, i would pick the m3 though as it would be more fun to drive and you can take it drifting. Plus its ten grand cheaper if the review I saw is correct
@weirdstring What I see is that the BMW M3 looses its traction in the curves, mainly because of their rear wheel drive which is somehow a big advantage for Audi and that fact makes me wanna choose the RS5. A classy car with some great traction. You loose the BMW's traction too easy in every weather condition but nevertheless a beautiful German car too.
Funny my track instructor (pro driver) said the same about RS5 - "it doesn't turn". Btw at the same time he was very impressed by TT-RS, said that it is probably the best AWD car he ever driven on a track
@MrFrankieFiggz i have the coupe~ so no dsg for me,,,,,, : ( I have not pre-ordered the rs5. I am also thinking about the ttrs even though i dont quite like the exterior of tt. what do you think? should i go get the tt rs now or keep the s5 and wait for the rs5?
@refuse54321 Yeh ur right...i'm in the states too im shocked it hasnt come here yet its not fair lol. But yes the 7 speed dual-clutch in the RS is prob like butter compared to the s tronic in the S5. I was just skeptical on the 0-60 because audi was claiming the RS can get to 60 in 4.6 seconds but i have launch control in my S5 and it gets to 60 in that time but i was looking at comparison tests and the RS was getting to 60 in 4.3. Do u have urs pre-ordered?
Put a little moisture on that track and the Audi kills the BMW in the real world you may get one or two weeks in any year where the conditions on the public roads are just right for the M3 for the other 50 weeks the Audi has the most useable performance and is the much faster and safer car. For fifty weeks you losers in the M3 just watch the Audi disappear into the distance.
Base price for a M5 in the UK is £73,000 base price for RS5 £60,000 so you are wrong there plus the better engine traction etc come as standard so for £14,000 less you get a much quicker car the rest are just trimmings
bampie1 yea but the base price for the m3 e92(like the one in the video) was 51,000 pounds. i dont know why you bring the m5 in the equation since its not the same car. the m5 is based on the 5 series you know, but has more power than your dads 518d and i was talking about the m3 which is based on the 3 series, but also has more power than your dads 518d . audi builds a car called the rs6, which is like the fastest version of the a6(thats the 5series equivalent from audi) thats the car you should compare the m5(car you found on wikipedia) to.
@MrFrankieFiggz really? that's good! you get 0 to 60 near 4 sec then, right? have a question for you. how do you like the APR. i am thinking about the ecu upgrade. apr's is coming soon. i would like to hear your opinion, i dont know what them. MTM, and ABT are bit expensive.
@krvillotti Interiors are a matter of opinion, and I think both the BMW and Audi engines are equally good. BMW's is more of a high revving motor, while the Audi's has more mid rev torques. And I personally, I'd take a RWD over an AWD any way. It's one thing to be fast in the corners, but what's the point if you're not going to have a little fun with it? Going sideways in a corner is much more enjoyable than just zipping through it.
would buy the rs5 because you can tune the power distribution, you can put up to 85% of the power to the rear if you want so u can have a rear wheel type performance for summer and tracks and put it to 70 in the front in winter times. and other wise ur riding at a biased 40/60 so u literary can have one car for all weathers... amazing
I'd love to get the Audi RS5, I wish it had a convertible hard top though. I know that can add on the weight, but it can add on the looks too! IMO, atleast.
Great review, finally. Much better than the GTR vs F10 M5. Back to the video, if I have that much cash, I would still go for the M3 just because I like it. I'm sure the RS5 is a great car but I wouldn't choose it over the M3. As all know it is only down to personal preference. I wouldn't be persuaded by the video to get a RS5. However I would buy a RS3 because it's a Mega Hatch.
@refuse54321 Wow! thats awesome congrats! Yeah every review i read people have said the thing just lusts for pure speed...its a 5 cylinder too right? what amazing performance. Yeah, the TTRS is more of a sports car rather then luxury sport like the S5. What have u topped it out at yet? Is it governed?
This video is an amazing analysis for someone who is looking to choose between both cars and is a sophisticated race car driver. I would choose M3 however because its naughtier.
Even though the RS5 may be quicker I still love the M3 nonetheless; especially the E30 and E36 models. But fair to say that both Audi and BMW make some awesome rides!
in a daily drive, it really doesnt matter which one is faster. they're both fast enough to put most cars to shame and win you a few drag races. both cars also look good enough to take a date out in, but i prefer the rs5 by a little (but not in red).
For the past 8 years Audi has been making Amazing cars, no other manufacturer can keep up wth the modern designs and technology on their vehicles. And for all the haters, look up these cars: AUDI: R8, RS6, RS5, RS4, S4 and the list goes on...
@TheGarvito actually the RS understeers much more because of it's unbalanced weight distro and quattro, making it behave like a fwd. it pulled ahead in slow corners because it has a faster corner exit speed in slow corners, but the bimmer has a better corner entry speed, as it has rwd and better turn in. Also it's 20000 dollars cheaper (69k vs 90k USD)
It's like 10 years later and the RS5 still basically has the exact same HP, just with a different engine. It seems like the RS model that requires an improvement the most.
@tony5714 The facts are quite clear in the test on the tract between the RS5 & M3, it's catch up time for the M3, the RS5 is fr more stable around tight corners, but some like the ass hanging out. but really both are super cool cars
Both cars are hot & you can't lose with either but I'd go with the RS5. I live in Asia-land OC, California (don't trip, I'm 1/2 Asian)& they love their Beamers especially M3's, so they're a dime a dozen out here already.I'd take the RS5 purely for the fact that it would be more rare & still get's the same props & respect as the M3 unless you're like 15 years old & don't know any better.
They're in the same exact class. The M3 and RS5 (and, for that matter, the 3 Series and A5) are almost exactly identical in their dimensions. The 6 Series is quite a bit bigger. So that's why.
The last naturally aspirated V8's from Audi and BMW. Sad to see them go.
So true
@@ryanmaharajh4945 quattro is cool
@@dragospahontu TRUE
@@ryanmaharajh4945 in the snow it's by far the nicest system out there. It's snake oil to me.
So glad I got mine before they went to the v6
Finally a channel that made the right comparison. In all reality the B8 RS5 competes directly with the E92 M3 NOT the B7 chasis. The B7’s compete with the E46 chasis.
I like them. I fucking love them both.
me too :D
I love RS5 its beautiful and extremely fast.
one of the most beautiful car ever!
Great video…two beautiful well made track cars having some fun. Would love to have both! It's impressive the RS5 won due to the weight ratio compared to the M3. Either way, love the RS5 (own an S5).
4:33 explains everything....
Yes explains that bmw is way better in corners than audi
Too much body roll for Audi, too much oversteer for BMW
Audi for life
I love that "BLOOP" sound the RS5 makes everytime you shift :D
That jump at 3:28! ♥️
Just ordered an RS5 fully loaded.
After 3 years of hairy rear wheel driving in the snow and rain with a BMW, decided for the Audi.
Both cars are fantastically equal but for me, the traction and better interior quality takes the RS5 above.
Move over M3, time to share or give up the podium!
such a tough choice!
Quattro for winter
Not for me
Well, this is a very polite review. I can tell you 1st hand that the RS5 doesn't take corners like the M3. There's a lot of understeer at race pace. The M3's over steer is just a case of not smacking your foot to the floor when exiting a sharp, slow corner. I love both these cars for very different reasons. They both share an amazing sound track though.
RS5 best coupe out there at the moment :) and it looks savage :)
The Audi looked so composed around the bends, while the M3 looked like an angry little dog with it's tail hanging out in an effort to keep up! LOLOLOL
Bollocks @Alex Douglas. Consider the poise and stance the RS has through the corners and stop to have a look at how hard the guy in the M3 is working to correct the oversteer. I’ve owned 4 Audis (Current S4) and 2 BMWs (1 x E36 M3) so I think I can have an informed opinion.
LOL
there are certain aspects about the M3 that I really like, the bonnet for example, and the mean look the headlights have, but I like the R5 more as a total package somehow...
BMW FOREVER
On point. RS5's go the edge due to Quattro. But M3's gotta be more fun and feels more precise.
Precise? Sliding around? Precise ? So the Audi was what, really really really precise? 4:33
I wonder how different the comments would be if the BMW was in the front.
Had they put the M3 in front, it would have disappeared from view as it left the RS5 behind.
Haha! So true. It must have been funded by Audi.
The last statement is so true. Thanks for sharing.
No it wouldn't have it's easier to follow someone when racing than to be in front the m3 had the advantage here I'm a m3 fan but the Audi was faster
Prz09 iv saw it but the rs5 was faster around that track, iv been in both and in Ireland and uk where the roads are often wet and slippery you can drive the rs5 slightly faster the awd get the power down better. The m3 is my favourite more fun to drive and very tail happy tho I personally found the e46 easier to drift
For the m3 lovers amongst you, The RS5 can put down 85% of power to it's rear wheels. This is good as permanent rear wheel drive. BUT, after take off, AWD remains which BMW does not have. It's a no brainer. All those M3 lovers out there will be eating their hats if this race was performed in the rain. And YOU KNOW IT. After 3 years of BMW sliding and wheel spinning, I'm opting for all wheel drive. At best both cars are equal in the dry only. My mate who owns an M3 even admits that Audi had bett
I'd take the M3 any day even a snowy one :)
THat track looks sooo sick to drive!
It's like there dancing. Beautiful :')
Nice video. Both great cars. It is very hard to choose between those two. BMW would be much more fun in summer (drifting). But Audi would more fun and practical during winter, which is very long and snowy here in Finland. As I said. Very hard to choose. At least for me. Both look great, but Audi looks a little more modern. I'm not saying that BMW looks old, but maybe little dated.
vorsprung durch technik
I have a 97 A4. Love it still drives beautifully. No out of the ordinary problems. Audi till the death, though BMW makes amazing vehicles. I just prefer Audi. Both Awsome makers.
I LOVE THE M3 !!
He must have been in heaven going airborne like that! You just know they were having a ball..
the bmw is much better :)
I love the jumps. That shows how fast they are moving!
. . if you want to go into a hedge backwards and meet Jesus . . buy the BMW . . if you want to live to drive buy the Audi . . for 1,000 Audi RS5's and 1,000 BMW M3's registered in 2010 . . today in 2014 888 RS5's are still on the road . . only 368 BMW M3's . . . that stat says a lot . .
hahahahhaahahaha that's an amazing stat
+wideangle852 thats cause the m3 is more popular and is beeing exported.
MrBusunglueck exported where mate? RHD cars only go to Japan, Ireland, Australia, or Hong Kong. Unless he wasn't talking about the UK. In that case nevermind.
VirusTornado
a lot of them still go to russia despite rhd. im just saying that its bullshit to suggest that all of the 650 m3s or so have been crashed. thats just a stupid assumption to make.
MrBusunglueck You're right lol
Passions in both beside Benz , passionnnnnnnnnnnnnn perfect design and lecture
i love audi!!!
Those cars look so nice
Audi also looks much better
im a huge bmw fan, but im looking for a an old gen coupe, and audi beats it on looks. looks bigger and just more quality.
If colors where switched the bmw would look better :)
My Audi A4 from 2002 still runs like a dream. If that adds anything to the "discussion"
love m3
The new 2012 RS5 is an absolute peach to drive. I just love the engine noise!
If only it was a 2014 rs5, it'd shut the bmw fan boys up, the 2014 thrashes m3 now, it's up to m5 standards, yet still based of the rs4, 0-60 in 3.9
Both great cars, i would pick the m3 though as it would be more fun to drive and you can take it drifting. Plus its ten grand cheaper if the review I saw is correct
id rather slide and have more fun than have a little bit better lap time
Both are excellent cars, though I would personally pick the RS5, that AWD will come in handy if I visit areas where it snows.
M3 is the sexier one ! Look on TH-cam rs5 vs m3 .. 50-200kmh the bmw is faster !
Those jumps were pretty sick
BMW ♥
@weirdstring What I see is that the BMW M3 looses its traction in the curves, mainly because of their rear wheel drive which is somehow a big advantage for Audi and that fact makes me wanna choose the RS5. A classy car with some great traction. You loose the BMW's traction too easy in every weather condition but nevertheless a beautiful German car too.
THAT AUDI IS SUPERB
That is right and its one hell of a car. I drove Porsche's for 32 yrs. And I am impressed with the EVO.
Audi!
Funny my track instructor (pro driver) said the same about RS5 - "it doesn't turn". Btw at the same time he was very impressed by TT-RS, said that it is probably the best AWD car he ever driven on a track
M3 for real drivers :)
@MrFrankieFiggz i have the coupe~ so no dsg for me,,,,,, : (
I have not pre-ordered the rs5. I am also thinking about the ttrs even though i dont quite like the exterior of tt. what do you think? should i go get the tt rs now or keep the s5 and wait for the rs5?
Audi Superiority !
Audi ftw, love the rs5
bmw e46 M3 is still better looking than both of these
1954telecaster u tripppn
They are both brilliant 👏
Try the bmw m3 start out first..just saying
@refuse54321 Yeh ur right...i'm in the states too im shocked it hasnt come here yet its not fair lol. But yes the 7 speed dual-clutch in the RS is prob like butter compared to the s tronic in the S5. I was just skeptical on the 0-60 because audi was claiming the RS can get to 60 in 4.6 seconds but i have launch control in my S5 and it gets to 60 in that time but i was looking at comparison tests and the RS was getting to 60 in 4.3. Do u have urs pre-ordered?
this was not a fair test
Quattro + Dynamic mode + Active Sport Differential = One sweet ride
Audi is waaaaaaay better
preefer1 BMW is all cheap shit
Nah hardly it’s an understeer machine for a start
Danny PussyPatrol and a bmw is orbabblt more then u could afford anyway so why make a comment like that 😂🤦🏻♂️
@SOTNify true. Although when you pull up to a red light its usually a drag.
AUDI = sooo SEXY
i love the rs5 but the m3 is so quick the speed they both can hit a corner at is phenomenal!!!
Do the same test in the wet that is the real world and watch the Audi run away
+bampie1 do the same test on a straighter track , taht is the real world and the bmw will run away
Put a little moisture on that track and the Audi kills the BMW in the real world you may get one or two weeks in any year where the conditions on the public roads are just right for the M3 for the other 50 weeks the Audi has the most useable performance and is the much faster and safer car. For fifty weeks you losers in the M3 just watch the Audi disappear into the distance.
bampie1
well the rs5 was about 10,000 pounds more or so back then so thats fine.
Base price for a M5 in the UK is £73,000 base price for RS5 £60,000 so you are wrong there plus the better engine traction etc come as standard so for £14,000 less you get a much quicker car the rest are just trimmings
bampie1
yea but the base price for the m3 e92(like the one in the video) was 51,000 pounds. i dont know why you bring the m5 in the equation since its not the same car. the m5 is based on the 5 series you know, but has more power than your dads 518d and i was talking about the m3 which is based on the 3 series, but also has more power than your dads 518d . audi builds a car called the rs6, which is like the fastest version of the a6(thats the 5series equivalent from audi) thats the car you should compare the m5(car you found on wikipedia) to.
id love to see a m3 gts and rs5 race.
All 3 of the American cars you mentioned are available in manual too.
wowwwwwwwww super clip, and nice driving....give me an RS5 for life!
@MrFrankieFiggz really? that's good! you get 0 to 60 near 4 sec then, right?
have a question for you. how do you like the APR.
i am thinking about the ecu upgrade. apr's is coming soon. i would like to hear your opinion, i dont know what them. MTM, and ABT are bit expensive.
four rings to rule them all !!
After a whole decade these cars still clean asl, I wouldn't mind owning either of them.
I’m going to own both
Ryan Coffman Good luck to you my friend 👍
@krvillotti Interiors are a matter of opinion, and I think both the BMW and Audi engines are equally good. BMW's is more of a high revving motor, while the Audi's has more mid rev torques. And I personally, I'd take a RWD over an AWD any way. It's one thing to be fast in the corners, but what's the point if you're not going to have a little fun with it? Going sideways in a corner is much more enjoyable than just zipping through it.
would buy the rs5 because you can tune the power distribution, you can put up to 85% of the power to the rear if you want so u can have a rear wheel type performance for summer and tracks and put it to 70 in the front in winter times. and other wise ur riding at a biased 40/60 so u literary can have one car for all weathers... amazing
Both cars are great, but I prefer the excitement and challenge of the M3 more than the safety and 4wdrive of the Audi. It is much more fun to drive.
which car is better is debatable but we can all admit dat was some pretty good driving there..
What mode the BMW was in when racing, except for the Audi r8, which Audi holds the shape and looks? Which car gives problem in a few years?
my dad has had an Audi for 10 years and its never broken down.
I'd love to get the Audi RS5, I wish it had a convertible hard top though. I know that can add on the weight, but it can add on the looks too! IMO, atleast.
awesome track, cars are even more awesome
Great review, finally. Much better than the GTR vs F10 M5. Back to the video, if I have that much cash, I would still go for the M3 just because I like it. I'm sure the RS5 is a great car but I wouldn't choose it over the M3. As all know it is only down to personal preference. I wouldn't be persuaded by the video to get a RS5. However I would buy a RS3 because it's a Mega Hatch.
It´s not being an arse, it´s having fun in the car you have ;)
@refuse54321 Wow! thats awesome congrats! Yeah every review i read people have said the thing just lusts for pure speed...its a 5 cylinder too right? what amazing performance. Yeah, the TTRS is more of a sports car rather then luxury sport like the S5. What have u topped it out at yet? Is it governed?
That M3 driver is pretty good. Great car control
@cd6622 Cool! Do you also have a Veyron and a F1 Car?
This video is an amazing analysis for someone who is looking to choose between both cars and is a sophisticated race car driver. I would choose M3 however because its naughtier.
Even though the RS5 may be quicker I still love the M3 nonetheless; especially the E30 and E36 models. But fair to say that both Audi and BMW make some awesome rides!
in a daily drive, it really doesnt matter which one is faster. they're both fast enough to put most cars to shame and win you a few drag races. both cars also look good enough to take a date out in, but i prefer the rs5 by a little (but not in red).
Audi is from Bavaria as well ;)
But you got a point, at least the RS subsidiary is not from bavaria.
For the past 8 years Audi has been making Amazing cars, no other manufacturer can keep up wth the modern designs and technology on their vehicles. And for all the haters, look up these cars: AUDI: R8, RS6, RS5, RS4, S4 and the list goes on...
@TheGarvito actually the RS understeers much more because of it's unbalanced weight distro and quattro, making it behave like a fwd. it pulled ahead in slow corners because it has a faster corner exit speed in slow corners, but the bimmer has a better corner entry speed, as it has rwd and better turn in. Also it's 20000 dollars cheaper (69k vs 90k USD)
It's like 10 years later and the RS5 still basically has the exact same HP, just with a different engine. It seems like the RS model that requires an improvement the most.
@tony5714 The facts are quite clear in the test on the tract between the RS5 & M3, it's catch up time for the M3, the RS5 is fr more stable around tight corners, but some like the ass hanging out. but really both are super cool cars
Apart from the bonnet the wings the bumpers the exhausts the mirrors the wheels it probably does
Both cars are hot & you can't lose with either but I'd go with the RS5. I live in Asia-land OC, California (don't trip, I'm 1/2 Asian)& they love their Beamers especially M3's, so they're a dime a dozen out here already.I'd take the RS5 purely for the fact that it would be more rare & still get's the same props & respect as the M3 unless you're like 15 years old & don't know any better.
This kind of review rocks
Man I can't wait to watch top gear making another video of RS5 vs C63 AMG vs M3
Thumbs up if you wanna too
They're in the same exact class. The M3 and RS5 (and, for that matter, the 3 Series and A5) are almost exactly identical in their dimensions. The 6 Series is quite a bit bigger. So that's why.
Im jealous of these guys that looked fun
M3 looks agressive and sporty while RS5 looks classy. very nice looking cars but nothing compares to BMW! getting M3 soon!
I'm convinced.. Jamie is the best autocar reviewer.