Thanks Mike, good stuff. I decided to get two sets of remotes on my new MX5800 and love them. One thing that would be really awesome for people new to the tractor world is a video on the differences between float/detent valves and regular double acting valve remotes. I had to figure that out before we took final delivery and I wasn't really sure what I needed/wanted. I use the regular set for my hydraulic top link and have left the float valve available for other implements. Thanks again!
Thank you for taking the time to make your video series. They are very informative and the format of short specific videos makes it easy to find a specific video.
I use my rear remote for hydraulic top link. The hydraulic top link makes running a box blade so much easier. It is also used for boom pole to give more lifting height.
THANKS FOR THE NICE COMMENT! That's what I'm after, helping folks that didn't grow up with tractors understand how they work and how to safely get the most value out of them. I really appreciate what you said. Thanks for watching.
Good video Mike. I'm really surprised you didn't mention how handy they are for operating a top-link and side-link cylinder when using a box blade! Very handy in that regard too.
They can be both. If you move your hydraulic remote lever one way one valve will be supply, the other return, move it the opposite direction and they swap. That way you're moving a cylinder in one direction with the lever forward and the opposite direction with it back. What are you trying to hook up?
That's a great idea. I'll have to get a little help because I'm not at the technical level to explain it myself but I bet I know a person or two who could do it. I'll put it on the list. Thanks!
On double acting cylinders, there is oil on both sides of the piston. When you want the piston to move one direction and shift hydraulic flow, the piston will not move unless the opposite side fluid is able to return back to the tank. It's important to have both lines connected properly.
I purchased the Summit multiplier per your other video. I cannot push in the sleeve to connect the hose from baler. Do you have any suggestions how to loosen up the tractor's remote sleeve to make it easier to connect the implement's hose?? This might be a topic for another video. I have squirted WD-40 between the remote's sleeve, but so far this is not working. Help!
Did you release the tractor pressure first? I hadn't thought about it, but that might be a little tricky with the kit. I'd bet you would need to shut the tractor off, wiggle the remote lever back and forth, then turn the key (but not start the engine) to "accessory" and move the switch back and forth to release the pressure to plug in. If you continue having problems, e-mail me direct at mike@asktractormike.com and I'll see if I can't get you some help. If you reply here, that can get lost easily because of the way TH-cam sorts comments.
Not a stupid question Debbie, but I need more information. Are we talking a three point bush hog and you're asking if you have to move both the float and position levers to get it to move up or down, or is it a pull type that uses a hydraulic cylinder to move the bush hog up and down (like in the video)? I'm going to assume since you've watched the remote hydraulic video it's the latter. If so, you should just move one lever for up and down. Now, if you had one hose plugged in one port on each set of remotes, that won't work and it's going to make a lot of noise. The hoses need to be plugged into the same remote, usually one right above the other, and then they'll work good with one lever.
My 1984 Ford tractor needed a new clutch. Two men repaired it for me but put the hydraulic hoses back on wrong and cannot figure out how to fix it. Where do I go for help? We have the service manuals but they do not display the answer.
What specifically is the issue? In other words, what problem has having the hydraulic hoses connected wrong created? If it's on the loader and the boom is going up when it should go down or the bucket curls when it should tilt, they've just reversed a couple of hoses. All you'll need to do is let all the pressure off the system (let the loader down to the ground), and disconnect the hoses and switch which ports they go to. It's a tough job the first time, I wish I were there to show you. You have to wiggle the joystick valve to let all of the pressure off the system, push in the hose and then pull out and they'll usually pop right out. Once the hoses are swapped to the correct ports, then you have to push the collar back while pushing in the hose and pulling gently back until it seats. Really easy once you have done it a few times, really hard to describe. If that's not the problem, get me more info and we'll see if we can figure it out. I need to do a video on plugging in remotes...
Thank you so much for your response. I will get this to the men who have been working with it. Hopefully they will be over tonight to work on it some more. I called a New Holland distributor in Griffin, Georgia, and they invited me to come down there and they would see if they could find a schematic which would help. The problem seems to be just as you stated. They realized they should've labeled them before they disconnected them but that's really a moot point right now. Thanks again for your reply.
Does this take down the level of the hydraulic fluid level in your tractor when you attache these implements? It seem to me if you hook them up empty, it would take fluid from your tractor to fill their cylinders. I have ordered remotes on my new Brannon and I'm getting a backhoe. Should I be concerned about the backhoe dropping the fluid levels in my tractor when I hook it up? Signed TV (tractor virgin)
+Karl Eisenmenger Yes, if it's empty it will reduce the level. You'll need to check your tractor hydraulic oil after you've operated the backhoe a couple of minutes and maybe add oil.
Hi Mike great information, my tractor has two sets, one I hook my backhoe and the other one reads trailer. which one would I hook up a rake to? Thank you
First, a couple of questions...where are you located and what brand and model is the tractor? I know that they commonly tow large trailers in Europe with tractors and I wonder if they use hydraulics for braking and if that's what that's for. If so, that set would be tied into braking and you'd definitely want to use the same port you used for the backhoe on the rake. To be honest, I've never seen a tractor with a hydraulic outlet labelled "trailer" so I'm not much of an expert here.
Hello mike. I have a question. My Massey has a front loader powered from a diverter which is bolted just under the seat. My question is can I place a "t" in the lines to run another set of remotes? The "t" would be placed after the diverter in the lines going to the loader valve. Thanks!
I think so...that's probably only putting out 4.4 GPM of flow but I think that would work. Let me run it by a Massey expert and I'll get you a definitive answer.
Here's the view from an expert Massey man, Ron, at Marshfield Machinery in Marshfield, MO: The hydraulic valves have to be hooked up in a chain, he will need to take the line from the out port of his loader valve and connect it to the in port of his remote valve, then run a return line from the remote valve back to the diverter valve under the seat. If he puts a T in the line the oil will just follow the path of least resistance back to the sump and you would lose pressure to both valves.
I got all of my fittings installed today and everything works great. I chained a 2 way shutoff valve in line from the "out" from my loader valve. Now I can close the valve and force fluid into a set of remotes on the rear of the tractor. $60 is all it cost. Thanks again!
let's talk back hoes! Duel set I imagine? I have not ever seen a mounted wood spliter!!! What is outstanding!!! I've used towed spliters but 95% of my spliting, was the good ole mauls and sledges. Can't go wrong there!
+Keith Rayeski Are you asking if you need dual hydraulics for a tractor-mounted backhoe? If so, the answer is you don't HAVE to have them. Actually, a better option is a PTO pump dedicated to the backhoe. It's less wear and tear on the tractor than using tractor hydraulics but it is about $1000-$1200 more expensive. If you don't want to go that way, tractor hydraulics work fine and every backhoe I've seen only requires a single set, the flow goes to the different operations when it gets to the backhoe, but I'd check when I bought the tractor. I'd recommend getting tractor and backhoe at the same time if possible, especially if you use the manufacturer's low rate program. I need to do a backhoe video and I just haven't had time, it's on the list.
Yes, Let''s talk backhoes! And other implements that have their own control valves requiring constant flow. Like log splitters. Those implements are better served with a Power Beyond kit as pumping fluid through the tractor control valves and the backhoe or splitter control valves both restricts flow and creates unnecessary heat. Using a PB kit is highly preferable to using a PTO pump type unless the host tractor has a very wimpy implement pump. It's usually the less expensive route too. @Tractor Mike - how about a video explaining the difference between remotes and a Power Beyond kit?
When I first started selling Mahindra tractors, I watched your very good video. Thank you!
Thank you sir, we just purchased an LS 352. Has 2 sets of remote valves, now I can mount a snow plow, and use a grapple for moving logs.
Have fun
Thanks Mike, good stuff. I decided to get two sets of remotes on my new MX5800 and love them. One thing that would be really awesome for people new to the tractor world is a video on the differences between float/detent valves and regular double acting valve remotes. I had to figure that out before we took final delivery and I wasn't really sure what I needed/wanted. I use the regular set for my hydraulic top link and have left the float valve available for other implements.
Thanks again!
Thank you for taking the time to make your video series. They are very informative and the format of short specific videos makes it easy to find a specific video.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
I use my rear remote for hydraulic top link. The hydraulic top link makes running a box blade so much easier. It is also used for boom pole to give more lifting height.
Good info . . . thanks!
Watching your channel should be mandatory for any new tractor owner.
THANKS FOR THE NICE COMMENT! That's what I'm after, helping folks that didn't grow up with tractors understand how they work and how to safely get the most value out of them. I really appreciate what you said. Thanks for watching.
Does it matter which hydraulic line is plugged into which of the two hydraulic remote couplers?
Good video Mike.
I'm really surprised you didn't mention how handy they are for operating a top-link and side-link cylinder when using a box blade! Very handy in that regard too.
You explained that so if someone had no idea what they were they do now, thanks !
What model or years was remote hydraulic 1st introduced on tractors??
Back in the 60s
Mike, is there any way to tell what remote supplies and what remote is return BEFORE you plug in?
They can be both. If you move your hydraulic remote lever one way one valve will be supply, the other return, move it the opposite direction and they swap. That way you're moving a cylinder in one direction with the lever forward and the opposite direction with it back. What are you trying to hook up?
Tractor Mike okay that makes sense this is for the raise cylinder on a sweepster broom.
can you do a video explaining the difference between open center and closed hydraulics. Thanks
That's a great idea. I'll have to get a little help because I'm not at the technical level to explain it myself but I bet I know a person or two who could do it. I'll put it on the list. Thanks!
Tell me something I don't already know. What does each port does one return the fluid pressure when cylinder moves???
On double acting cylinders, there is oil on both sides of the piston. When you want the piston to move one direction and shift hydraulic flow, the piston will not move unless the opposite side fluid is able to return back to the tank. It's important to have both lines connected properly.
I purchased the Summit multiplier per your other video. I cannot push in the sleeve to connect the hose from baler. Do you have any suggestions how to loosen up the tractor's remote sleeve to make it easier to connect the implement's hose?? This might be a topic for another video. I have squirted WD-40 between the remote's sleeve, but so far this is not working. Help!
Did you release the tractor pressure first? I hadn't thought about it, but that might be a little tricky with the kit. I'd bet you would need to shut the tractor off, wiggle the remote lever back and forth, then turn the key (but not start the engine) to "accessory" and move the switch back and forth to release the pressure to plug in. If you continue having problems, e-mail me direct at mike@asktractormike.com and I'll see if I can't get you some help. If you reply here, that can get lost easily because of the way TH-cam sorts comments.
Great information for us newbies. What is it called when you can operate the 3-point hitch with fender mounted controls?
Michael, I call it what you just called it, "Fender Mounted Three Point Control". Great option, wish they all came with that or something like it.
This might be a stupid guestion but do you have to push both levers on a kabota m7060 remote hydraulic system to get a bush hog up or down?
Not a stupid question Debbie, but I need more information. Are we talking a three point bush hog and you're asking if you have to move both the float and position levers to get it to move up or down, or is it a pull type that uses a hydraulic cylinder to move the bush hog up and down (like in the video)? I'm going to assume since you've watched the remote hydraulic video it's the latter. If so, you should just move one lever for up and down. Now, if you had one hose plugged in one port on each set of remotes, that won't work and it's going to make a lot of noise. The hoses need to be plugged into the same remote, usually one right above the other, and then they'll work good with one lever.
My 1984 Ford tractor needed a new clutch. Two men repaired it for me but put the hydraulic hoses back on wrong and cannot figure out how to fix it. Where do I go for help? We have the service manuals but they do not display the answer.
What specifically is the issue? In other words, what problem has having the hydraulic hoses connected wrong created? If it's on the loader and the boom is going up when it should go down or the bucket curls when it should tilt, they've just reversed a couple of hoses. All you'll need to do is let all the pressure off the system (let the loader down to the ground), and disconnect the hoses and switch which ports they go to. It's a tough job the first time, I wish I were there to show you. You have to wiggle the joystick valve to let all of the pressure off the system, push in the hose and then pull out and they'll usually pop right out. Once the hoses are swapped to the correct ports, then you have to push the collar back while pushing in the hose and pulling gently back until it seats. Really easy once you have done it a few times, really hard to describe. If that's not the problem, get me more info and we'll see if we can figure it out. I need to do a video on plugging in remotes...
Thank you so much for your response. I will get this to the men who have been working with it. Hopefully they will be over tonight to work on it some more. I called a New Holland distributor in Griffin, Georgia, and they invited me to come down there and they would see if they could find a schematic which would help. The problem seems to be just as you stated. They realized they should've labeled them before they disconnected them but that's really a moot point right now. Thanks again for your reply.
Does this take down the level of the hydraulic fluid level in your tractor when you attache these implements? It seem to me if you hook them up empty, it would take fluid from your tractor to fill their cylinders. I have ordered remotes on my new Brannon and I'm getting a backhoe. Should I be concerned about the backhoe dropping the fluid levels in my tractor when I hook it up? Signed TV (tractor virgin)
+Karl Eisenmenger Yes, if it's empty it will reduce the level. You'll need to check your tractor hydraulic oil after you've operated the backhoe a couple of minutes and maybe add oil.
Hi Mike great information, my tractor has two sets, one I hook my backhoe and the other one reads trailer. which one would I hook up a rake to? Thank you
First, a couple of questions...where are you located and what brand and model is the tractor? I know that they commonly tow large trailers in Europe with tractors and I wonder if they use hydraulics for braking and if that's what that's for. If so, that set would be tied into braking and you'd definitely want to use the same port you used for the backhoe on the rake. To be honest, I've never seen a tractor with a hydraulic outlet labelled "trailer" so I'm not much of an expert here.
Thank you Mike, it is a 2007 Farmtrac 300 DTC.
Hello mike. I have a question. My Massey has a front loader powered from a diverter which is bolted just under the seat. My question is can I place a "t" in the lines to run another set of remotes? The "t" would be placed after the diverter in the lines going to the loader valve. Thanks!
I think so...that's probably only putting out 4.4 GPM of flow but I think that would work. Let me run it by a Massey expert and I'll get you a definitive answer.
Thanks!
Here's the view from an expert Massey man, Ron, at Marshfield Machinery in Marshfield, MO: The hydraulic valves have to be hooked up in a chain, he will need to take the line from the out port of his loader valve and connect it to the in port of his remote valve, then run a return line from the remote valve back to the diverter valve under the seat. If he puts a T in the line the oil will just follow the path of least resistance back to the sump and you would lose pressure to both valves.
I got all of my fittings installed today and everything works great. I chained a 2 way shutoff valve in line from the "out" from my loader valve. Now I can close the valve and force fluid into a set of remotes on the rear of the tractor. $60 is all it cost. Thanks again!
Thank you.
Well explained. Thanks
Thanks for the info. I'm completing putting rear hydrolic on my 2615 ND and don't know where to start lol.
nice kioti you've got there!
a tractor without hydraulics is not even a tractor
let's talk back hoes! Duel set I imagine? I have not ever seen a mounted wood spliter!!! What is outstanding!!! I've used towed spliters but 95% of my spliting, was the good ole mauls and sledges. Can't go wrong there!
+Keith Rayeski Are you asking if you need dual hydraulics for a tractor-mounted backhoe? If so, the answer is you don't HAVE to have them. Actually, a better option is a PTO pump dedicated to the backhoe. It's less wear and tear on the tractor than using tractor hydraulics but it is about $1000-$1200 more expensive. If you don't want to go that way, tractor hydraulics work fine and every backhoe I've seen only requires a single set, the flow goes to the different operations when it gets to the backhoe, but I'd check when I bought the tractor. I'd recommend getting tractor and backhoe at the same time if possible, especially if you use the manufacturer's low rate program. I need to do a backhoe video and I just haven't had time, it's on the list.
***** Thanks Mark....that is exactly what I was asking!!
Yes, Let''s talk backhoes! And other implements that have their own control valves requiring constant flow. Like log splitters. Those implements are better served with a Power Beyond kit as pumping fluid through the tractor control valves and the backhoe or splitter control valves both restricts flow and creates unnecessary heat. Using a PB kit is highly preferable to using a PTO pump type unless the host tractor has a very wimpy implement pump. It's usually the less expensive route too.
@Tractor Mike - how about a video explaining the difference between remotes and a Power Beyond kit?
Get dual hydraulics.
You'll be surprised how much you use them.
I would NOT buy a tractor without duals!
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