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It's Topical I Is the explosive VBS affidavit in the public interest?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2024
- This past week a tell-all affidavit by the former Chairperson of the now defunct VBS bank was leaked to the media. It revealed allegations of involvement of high-profile politicians and municipalities in the looting of the bank to the tune of R2 billion. However, the NPA had urged the media not to divulge the contents of the affidavit as this has the potential to jeopardize the case and also put people's lives at risk. Do you agree?
To unpack this question were are joined by Sbu Ngalwa, the Chairperson of the SA National Editors' Forum, as well as Dr Llewelyn Curlewis (Procedural Law Senior Lecturer at the University of Pretoria) and legal expert, Mpumelelo Zikalala. Our digital audience also puts questions to the panel.
For more news, visit sabcnews.com and #SABCNews on all Social Media platforms.
Investigative journalist- we are grateful for your work. Please continue to shed the light.
The fact that this video questions whether or not it's in the public's interest is an insult to our intelligence.
To say the document was leaked is just a way this bs is served to say that nobody else will be brought to book. SA so called politics at it's best. What an insult to the public yet again
I am 100% for transparency !
Including the DA
It involves corrupt politicians, so yes, it is in the public's interest.
ok
The reason why nothing is being done about the VBS and EFF scandal is because the ANC also had their hands in the cookie jar.
AND THESE POLITICIANS HAVE THE GALL TO CAMPAIGN ON CARING FOR THE POOR.
Why must te thieves be protected while the victims go hungry😢
@user-rn3ve8bh8s it is because followers are thieves as well, that is why they love and vote leaders who steal from them
Because you're focusing on wrong people #EFF Specifically
So true!! Very sad!!!
We must look at the EFF!!!! Why did they meet with the bank official, Why did they accept the huge monthly donation? Why did they agree that Floyd's brother must accept on their behalf these funds? Knowing very well these are savings of the poor? Was it due to Mr Zuma's bond loan? That they also want something out of it? It's questionable???
The issue with documents not being leaked is we’ll never know if some names on the affidavit are simply ignored & not investigated. Look at the State Capture Commission. People were implicated and no prosecutions, at least in that scenario we know who’s implicated & we know what they did. The more public the information is the better we know our own leaders.
VBS Stand for , Venda Building Society
Your point carries some truth. However, you should understand the depth of your position say a document is leaked on an ongoing investigation regarding a drug lord or a rapist. This means he or she will have fore knowledge and prepare or run away. The integrity of law enforcement agencies should be protected otherwise we will nothing but a court of Publix opinion and no one will be arrested.
VBS case will be prolonged as long as they are focusing on the wrong people and hiding where the chunk of money was stolen. #EFF is innocent until proven guilty by the court of law
Cyril didn't rob the poor. EFF did???😮😮😮
Even SACP and ANC cadres benefited, why are mentioning EFF only?
Cheap alcohol is dangerous
Yes he did. The money for Edkom squandered through Glencore in hand. Evidence is there in the state capture report. Google it and read Mr Molefe testimony. Its not givenn to much attention cause it involved your Ramaphosa
So u don't know where to open a case?
If the affidavit is declared as invalid that indicates dangerous flashing lights for Judiciary system in the Country.
The police still has to investigate but this time they will be focused and pointed in the right direction by Matodzi and where to look.
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Your confused
That affidavit cannot be declared illegal unfortunately
😂😂Lol South Africans are so gullible like children,i can't believe how much power the media has in controlling how the public thinks,what it talks about and how to incite the public against those they hate.What a beautiful strategy to divert attention from the PhalaPhala saga,by burying it with an already dealt with matter ,the Chair of that Bank was sentenced and jailed WE NOW WANT THE PHALAPHALA CRIMINAL TO BE SENTENCED AND JAILED ,the PhalaPhala saga must be put on the table.This media proganda trick of trying to divert attention from Ramaphosa's crimes is not working on us 😅😂.
Malema will blame Van Riebeeck😂
And the climate change 😂
Lol true the Woodwork master, Mr Nine percent
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No, You
I'm not interested in dollars I've never earned any, rather I'm concerned about the rands of the poorest or the poor that was lost to egocentric pseudo politicians 😢
Of course the EFF stole 2.3 billion angithi
@@jabulanismithWhat is interesting is: Sgameka Brian Shivhambo brother's company got 16 million "WHICH WAS PAID BACK IN FULL TO VBS", NOT "EFF" Where is the rest of the remaining 2.2 Billion & 984 000 000 Million Rand and who is accountable for it ‼️❓ l hope @MYANC Municipality at that area by then will account and tell us what happened ❓
Hey wena, crime doesn't have colour.
When's Floyd and Malema getting their day in court ??? ...
Abd this is why Julius and EFF have never relied on Mpofu to fight their cases in court 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
AND THEN THEY VOTED FOR JULIUS JUDAS MALEMA
fusek
we have so many commissions but no one is in jail where is the N P A boggles the mine
Eish! So many names! Who is going to be investigated and who not? Rather stay with the old trusted banks in SA if you want to save money.
We in Namibia whant to hear about the SME Bank money pls
They must bring the money back
This is a serious criminal case must be dealt with highest profile caseand schedule
What gappened to Malema and Shivambu and brother after 2017 ?? why did it take to now. Why were they not arrested and jailed.
Thats why municipalities went bancrupt cause Malema received 1 miilion rands pm. After they received once off 5million Rand. The must pay back all the money !!
Go arrest them yourself.
Please go arrest them yourself idiot 😂😂😂 you either playing dumb or deliberately ignoring facts
5 million plus one per month
Uyazincoma uMalema uthi u rich yena ngoba egqoka isicathulo sika 29.000 kodwa Bantu bebelambile njengoba ngilambile imisebenzi ingekho abantwana bethu bengsebenzi nje banikwa 350 bathengama drugs ngenxa yemisebenzi engekho ABABOSHWE SIKHATHELE yini kangaka sivota
Bophanabantu akusizi ukukhuluma
Guys I had a dream that Julius Malema will be arrested.... its on my channel.
😂😂😂😂😂
Whites dream 🤷🏾♂️
Yah neh, life can give a person hot flushes.😂😂😂
@@vuyisileraymo2388chest pains😅
Those who have suffered financial loss must be paid back with interest
Mr Cyril preferred to keep his money in his house ...he knew he couldn't trust these with long golden fingers
Bro, the government taxed my mere 5000, some of it is going towards ramaphosa salary but he kept his $4 000 000 in a mattress. 😂
Phalaphala, don't stress yourself it is Rams money not the state's
You are lying , the tax of that money belongs to South Africans.
@@phumzileduduza7352 You are correct, R4 742 869.40, this is theft from SARS.
Taxable income for the year: R 10,962,812.00 [$580 000.00]
The tax you will pay / PAYE (Pay As You Earn) for your age group and income bracket:
R 4,742,869.40 (as per PAYE tables provided by SARS) Unpaid TAX.
It’s his money coming from?
Eff straight away playing their deflection tactics again, pointing the finger at others. The dumb and bed warmers will believe as always
It's not, you pay taxes for keeping forex under the couch, stop this miss information, 15% of that money is ours
Not leaked very well if no one(public) has seen it yet🤷♀️.the 'leakers' should do a better job 😅
Pay back the money!!!
Red Flag how many documents not released, however public have no rights to know what is happening backdoor, what a shame
I don't know what vbs stands for but now all who is implicated in the affidavid is in a very bad situation.
Love it. Leak all the damm stuff going on.
If affidavit is declared invalid, the witness might find himself being given an offer by the mighty and powerful that he can’t refuse or sleeping with the fishes like Gavin Watson. Angelo Agrizzi is still to stand trial since 2020.
That affidavit was written by convicted person it was tested in court so it's valid....
South African child you on your own
No person or any individual has the rights to reserve any documents it's in the best interest of the people of RSA to know and learn from bogus more and move
Malema think being arrogant, disrespectful and shouting he can get away with his bad manners all the time!!! Ge must be jailed and his penthouse must get sold as as his R28000 shoes!!
Unomona
Shame. Emotions are not facts
Umona, wami wena when Male a I balling on average south Africans life saving? Fotsek@@jabulanismith
Hunger is talking 😂😂😂
@@sizakeletwala8033 yehlis'umoya sisi, uhlaz'indoda yakho maan 🙈
Now it makes sense y eff lost so many votes in their own province
Malema will claim it is toy money
The arrognce in that guy
😂😂😂
U know u r all weak with ur NPA n Hawks. Whether u bring a pink, coloured or black prosecutor, he would mop the floor with him/her.
I think Kerry’s point was extremely important.
But these people voted Anc and EFF. Interesting isn't it? We feel sorry for them but they aren't angry. Anc got 73%and EFF is the official opposition. I don't understant 😢
Now who do you voted
Our has nothing to do with u
@@user-ps1gw2xg9lit has everything to do with me that's why is called "public interest " you flabbergasted idiot!!!!!
@@francisphetoplease speak proper English😅
@@tebogontshangase4893 Ha ke lekgoa gape ga kea rutega jaaka wena but the matter of fact you understood what I wanted to say
Where is accountability plz we need action
action and then what😂
How could they do this to the poor meanwhile they always advocate for the causes of the poor
That's politicians they talk with forked tongues
I salute whoever leaked it, otherwise we would never know who all the crooks are. Cover ups would have been the norm.
It was not leaked but put diplomatically brought forward for the SAcans" consumption
Please allow people to know the insurance companies over charging for 3 years in out surface they raised the premium high then transferred to MI WAY still the same its unknown what is happening people bought vehicles 4 years back still no change in thier debt need assistance people don't koe who to approach urgent assistance needed
🤣🤣🤣Certain politicians exchanging their Gucci and Louis Vittone suites for orange overalls... SHAME ON YOU FOR RUINING THE LIVES OF THE POOREST OF THE POOR!!!
It's in the public interest that the info was leaked. Black Afrucans swsat earned money was eaten. Ppl who ate the funds must,ought & should face the music.
Its actually the human element that us important , i mean its really about the employees and those who have lost everything. Its disgusting
What's stopping the authorities from arresting Julius or Floyd or any EFF member if they are involved?
Thank you for the advice Rayne, much appreciated. You are encouraging me right there, as I am still learning and new in this business
To play innocent now it's too late ,money 💰💰💰 is kept safely else where so stop making South African public stupid, thank you Oh Lord of the world 🌎 🙏 the true colors showing now 🙏
Well, the money is Gone isn't it ? What Proof do you need?
This programme is always disappoint. The discussion are shallow and one doesn't learn anything new. The so-called experts are always in agreement thus rendering the discussions one-sided. It always the same faces. Not sure if SABC if these are part of SABC resident experts/analysts.
Matodzi will serve 7 & half that's not fair 😢😢😢😢😢
Some insurance company did not pay out benefits........
I am brothered by how 2 billions was stolen and interest is only on 16 million, I get the impression that ANC is above the law as nothing seem to be pointing at their direction as they run municipalities...
Its old news. ask the daily maverick. inaction iro criminal activities is the norm. incation against politicians is a black hole. talk about white monopoly and black monopoly needing to come to a screeching halt is long gone. watch how deflection by the implicated,, is the order of the day in this current case
Whe malema n Shivambu will b Arrested
Arrested for what?
Dont change it to phala phala is theft from VBS Bank that is bancrupt now and many poor blacks lost the stolen money.
Who is this woman that know so much.
Wven ANC received vbs money ???
Yeah 39 yrs in jail AND PAy back the money!!!
Read?@@KKOPPONG
What must the be arrested for according. To the affidavit? Stop acting like an illiterate @@KKOPPONG
Sad that poor people lost their life savings..What about Ubuntu that Black People boast about..
Go arrest them yourself.
The level of incompetence in our NPA and judiciary is unimaginable and the public doesn't even know coz we trust suits and jargons. The lawyer for Matondzi probably drafted that affidavit and suggested the sentence then the NPA and judiciary just took it and agreed with whatever terms they proposed. (mere speculation)😂😂 I wouldn't put it past them.
We in South Africa 🌍🇿🇦 have amazing journeylist, they don't take sides ,say story like it is open to the public with honesty, poor senior people suffering,🕎✝️🌍🇿🇦🙏
Mxm our land has been stolen here our minerals has been stolen here, are these factors are not in people's interests? I see you SABC
I personally doubt that, those implicated will face might of the law.
Former VBS CFO Phillip out on parole 😂
3.5 years. Absolutely insane.
Wuuu started with a burial society 😢 poor gogos, and mokhulus😢
I am only here to tell the RACISTS that, no matter how you wish, Malema will never be arrested. ✊️✊️✊️
Ramaposa must renew his cabnet
Impimpi mentality 😮
Ramaposa must renew his cabinet insurance companies must speak up all banks as well therefore all were thinking Ramaposa stole yes we all aware of that his prioritize some kets not involve Phala Phala with what happened please
The Phala phala files is what we really wanna see
One frog at the time ...the bird 🐦 was told to eat
I think the banks should be ensured against such activities so that it would not disadvantage its depositors when such a thing happens
White own banks are insured, only black owned banks suffers such circumstances.
We want to hear about phala phala
Phala phala money did not belong to any bank or the public, it belongs to CR
@@user-rq7bu6ol8f msunukanyoko
This guy must also follow up with the land to be given to the African if he is not blinding public. And the story of da with minimum wages.
The issue of today is the EFF that stole from the poor.... Not stupid topics
Tell him, is trying to deviate
So you tell me that we not.serpost to know about it.what about the old people who lost everything.slp in front of VBS waiting for there money.now u tell u as a nation that they all are beneficial of the money.the ANC EFF MK MUST BE ACCOUNT WHERE IS THE MONEY.SORRY WHENA
Fighting a lost battle the 🐈 cat is out of the bag and running hay weire
Media guyz jooo this Samkelo has been captured,
The truth shall set us free,
Why now Malema and Shivambu are implicated it is because they are vocal they want to keep them quite that is SA.
Matodzi mentioned them
They were mentioned years ago along with others some that have just been sworn into new portfolios by our president. The protected will remain. SA so called politics is a serious joke
When u love someone u love them .....even if you have all evidence that they are corrupt I don't blame u.... Love is bloody blind
🤣🤣yall tried, but as usual, its bs
What does the public protector want to convert up
"PARTICULAR"
You guys have prosecuted the Julius Malema and Floyed Shivambu in public. My single question is are you also going to Judge them? Or you should have waited for NPA? I just wonder how your influence would bring justice to your own victims of your Kangaroo prosecution.
HOT VBS STORY OF THE WEEKEND 🎉
Sivotela ukuhlupheka iyanyanyisa lento , masesithuka izinhlamba kuthiwe soboshwa , kumele sithuke mani kwadlalwa ngathi kwakudala senziwa izilima
It may b said to b a witch hunt 😂😂😂😂
Wr are interested in Phala Phala
Whose money. From the poor?
Was Phala Phala monies from the poor of the poorest?
Phala Phala didn’t take pensioners money, didn’t take municipal monies. Cyril’s money was stolen. That has no impact on anyone but himself🤷🏿♂️
Yes
Phalaphala is the latest saga,this took place few years ago. VBS robbed the poorest of our country their hard earned investments
Technically this affidavix exhonorate both Julias& Floyd but Dondo is heavily n directly implicated.
Truly. Even the Daily Marveric investigation now contradicts Matodzi story. 😂
😂😂Lol South Africans are so gullible like children,i can't believe how much power the media has in controlling how the public thinks,what it talks about and how to incite the public against those they hate.What a beautiful strategy to divert attention from the PhalaPhala saga,by burying it with an already dealt with matter ,the Chair of that Bank was sentenced and jailed WE NOW WANT THE PHALAPHALA CRIMINAL TO BE SENTENCED AND JAILED ,the PhalaPhala saga must be put on the table.This media proganda trick of trying to divert attention from Ramaphosa's crimes is not working on us 😅😂.
Haibo
Tyme bank
The people of south Africa need to learn how to identify conversational fallacies and the fallacy that is used commonly in these situations is "whataboutism" ...Yes I did something but look what they did. What they do it fine. We all crimey criming so whats the issue.
It's just point the finger is so it's basically a branch of people standing a circle and one person accuses the next and they point the finger straight ahead they don't even know who they're accusing but the finger is pointed and not at me...😁as long as you point in the finger you believe you innocent again that's just dumb dumb The reasons people give in explaining themselves in this specific situation a tactic 5 year olds use. South Africa's brand of government or quality of government is just stupid people who think they are smarter so they have a natural Instinct but to just point the finger... again it makes no sense means nothing they go straight to "whataboutism" they don't acknowledge pointing there finger. Like rubbing the head when worried or in trouble.
As if you will do anything to Malema bring it on ...he will destroy you in court he loves that box😂
Amen not an EFF supporter but this leaked affidavit...why now?why only Malema n Shivambu?where are others names who benefited?
And the affidavit doesn't even say Julius and Floyd got money. The guy is talking about something that happened back in 2017 while the bank still running fine that he met with the two coz were damaging the image of the vbs and later when the differences were ironed out donated money to the eff including other political parties by the way.
Nothing new here, why the affidavit leaked now..... Perfect timing to kill a 9% organisation....... Qalani nje ngithi niyabopha nizoyibonakahle i9%
@@annettemhlauli2773 Better timing would have been before the elections.
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ubSo that you can continue you with your hatred oppression towards the blacks
Hey we've got some funny black people's surnames like grootboom,biterbos,meyer these surnames benefitted a lot because in the workplaces were baasboys they lived a better life more than A bo Mthimkhulu that's why they are so glued to these with the hope that they will still be considered as baasboys in the working place
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all this talked about a leaked affidavit, when are you going back to the Arthur Frasers affidavit? Affidavits need to be tested in court not the media
Julius Malema and Floyd Shivambu Will not be arrested and you try everything to put down EFF we as supporters of EFF we are here to stay ✊✊✊
Stupid blind sheeps while your leaders are balling on poor south Africans life savings
They will be arrested. The justice system is not blind like you. Blind follower
True, the Roman dutch law is not blind, and you are under it's spell.
Criminals support criminals
Law doesn't care if you're a eff member or not.Law is law,it will take it's course.
I never had reasons why i should leave EFF as a member and its voter, now i do have........