Shivambu leaves EFF | 'He is making a serious mistake joining MK Party with its internal issues'
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
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EFF is my home, with or without Floyd Shivambo.
Long live EFF ❤
Eff has zinc home if u follow ..
I love my EFF.. It's solid, credible and progressive.
Shem. I feel sorry for eff 😂
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Viva combrate...#Siyabangena ❤❤💪💪
I’m loving EFF more and more…we will never backdown❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ floyd go well but know you were the one that left us not us leaving you …u left us😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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MK is destroying JULIUS MAMPARRA !
Shame, sad seeing EFF supporters in denial. It's the beginning of the end for the EFF. 9% will be 3% in the next election. Floyd is jumping a sinking ship. This weakens the EFF massively but strengthens MK. Floyd was holding the EFF together
Depending on his reasons for leaving but can be very hurting on the part of EEF
cry not african child, floyd and malema are building african movement. they will not allow another party to dominate in their home country. remeber the days of anc malema said what is strategic about the receptionist? this is a sacrifice to get mk and eff together... wait patiently and see what happens. the first move in chess is to create the best opening but the last move is connected to the first move, check the queens gambit as point of reference. This is chess not checkers.
Indeed we have a great democracy & constitution. This does not happen everywhere in Africa.
Now that you are in bed with the Corrupt ANC .... EVERYTHING IS FINE !!!
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I'm happy that i don't vote for individuals
I vote for EFF🇿🇦 policy ❤
Comrade Shivambu your resignation is making other fighter's weak but to me your resignation makes me stronger than before
Have a nice journey Comrade Floyd 🌟
I love EFF ❤ 😍 EFF is my home and my home is EFF 🇿🇦💯
It means you don't understand it neh?....EFF is going to be amalgamated with MK before 2029 NPE...so if you don't like MK you better start looking for a new political home.
@@BeleniYara-ow2zq greatly said…it is so melancholic but the Organisation must stand tall❣️❤️❤️❤️❣️❤️❣️
@@siyabongamzimela7931 EFF is our home 😅 like it or not we will dust off and moveon!
@@siyabongamzimela7931 keep supporting mk ! Mk is there for you.
I don't like mk, I don't want to hear anything about tribalic mk
EFF is my home and my home is EFF 🇿🇦💯🌟🔥
He is a pzz
This is just a preparation for the EFF and MK to be one party one day. Floyd will be one of the leaders in the MK and then once zuma passes away or leaves MK fir what ever reason then the MK will be able to survive beyond Zuma cause it will have strong characters like Floyd. This is Zumas succession plan that's all. Mark my words the EFF and MK will join soon.
True
They always looking for negative side. But it also make me happy to see them not understanding the plan. Because they will sabotage it as they did by stealing the votes.
Zuma and malema are two bulls it can never happen😂 Zuma uses people period
I wish I was able to bookmark this, so I would come back and mark your words right or wrong in 2027🤔
Juju don't worry that is a Hire and Diliza compony, more especially a person who comes from the North.
I am not an EFF membr but i do care, Malema is deeply hurting u can hear his voice 😢😢😢 its a sad day for the EFF and Malema him self 😢😢😢
True , uyakhala lomuntu, futhi ebsuku uzoba manzi umncamelo.
The racists are running wild ..GNU is turning off the taps .
😂long Crocodile tears
Sad day for his friend and many eff also 😢
Yup 💯‼️💪🏼
This party is not going anywhere mark my words something is really fishing here😢 very sad indeed this guys have been friends for ever
This is truly a horrible mistake by Floyd. He has literally moved from Winnie Mandela House straight to a kraal in Nklandla. He will also loose protection as far as the VBS matter is concerned.
Unamanga khane ezoba ryt manje
This could be a planned political move by Zuma, Malema and Floyd himself. Something is weird about this.
@@Sticknbkidthink I agree with you... how does Shivambu leave EFF... they are probably joining forces... MK will be a big party after they join forces and bring the ANC down.... that's what I think
@@KG-blisssame propaganda that says Zuma is still ANC
As for Manyi, it's been a long time coming.He is running around like a headless chicken
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Struuu 😂😂😂😂😂
Manyi has long became irrelevant in politics
Jimmy mannnnnn
Malema should be wiser next time...he cannot keep taking newbies to parliament before they prove themselves....
Ndlozi the chance is yours this time,,,,,,shine like a diamond 🔹 EC is behind you i know you will perform well give this guy a chance juju
The Gupta money is calling.
Same thing as US dollars
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Same as Rand manipulation...
At least guptas money is our money, what do you about those taking foreign money
@petrosdlamini1761 what are you talking about, that money was acquired illegally.
Mk is overwhelmed by old guards who are power hungry shibambu will not survive 😂😂😂😂
I'm sorry to say this but he will be a dead meat in there too much fighting some mps demoted from parliament
He will be squashed by Duduzile alone😝😝
Who is this old guard? Shivambu will be one of the most experienced politicians in MK. Infact apart from Zuma the MK's top structure is devoid of political experience.
@Greatness-dd6pi Duduzile knows nothing just that she is daddy's favorite unfortunately
What a wrong assesment. That's how Anc fooled themselves. Now theyre licking wounds. U underestimate Msholozi
Great move by Floyd he's been around the block for quite some time. The man is not a fool i believe he didn't just throw everything he worked so hard for in the bin. I forsee the likes of advocate mpofu also joining the mk watch the space
Floyed was supposed to be the president of the EFF very long time ago, Juju is always accusing other people of being power hungry but he doesn't lead by example.
Im not a member of EFF but im hurt really to be honest 😔 😢
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I don't care
We are together
Gives me terrible chest pains. I too feel the terrible pain for my brother Juju.😢
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I am happy I am voting for EFF not individuals. Be strong Juju ❤
Salani niyincenga
Shame😂😂😂 eff kuzolunga incengeni noma niya eweni 😂😂😂😂like it
I'm not surprised about manyi bcoz uhleli eleqa izikhundla,akahlali kwiparty enganasikhundla,as for chivambu makahambe sesinelabel yevbs nje nguye nokunyoluka awake, makaye kwi dead duck MKP
Sour grapes
Yhuuuuuu 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'll not mock the EFF, but watch what you say about the MKP, we not your enemy, we still looking to work with the EFF in the near future
I think this is a technical move, they might be moving him to safe EFF from VBS scandal, and use him as leader of the opposition n both of them will destroy ANC n DA , this is a game , just watch as it unfolds
Tend to agree with. It appears there is political chess move here. Let's watch the space.
These are political chess players of note, without them there is no politics of substance in the country.
My absolute commitment and loyalty is the Economic Freedom Fighters!! Economic Freedom in our lifetime is a reality long overdue for all of Africa!!
This is not a mistake... This is a well thought out strategic plan to take over the MKP, with eventually Malema as BOSS of the combined party!!!
Maybe???
There is Not gonna be anyone from that province to support Malema and Shivambu combined. If you doubt me ask IFP supporters.
@@MrMicagogomeThey'll call him "ishayingane" very soon.
@@nomagcisacawe3297 😀😀😀😀
😂😂😂stupid
Give Ndlozi his Deputy President post
Do you think that Dr.Ndlozi will last? The wheels are coming out and Malema is hurting.
Ndlozi was already demoted. Ndlozi was brought to eff by Floyd
He is also resigning...
@@sebolai-dd4wo exactly
Yeah I believe he's be the deputy if he does contest that position but then it's up to him and the eff elective conference
Walking from darkness to pitch black darkness. No wonder the panic the GNU is shining brighter it blinds those who are corrupt.
Well said🤝
Akulona iqiniso lokhu okushoyo Nina anikamazi uzuma uzongena khaxa emkhontweni u Shivambu uzuma uyabazi abantu aba strong iMK izoliphatha izwe kanti Usekhulile uZuma
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He has to deal with two devils. He was part of the formation of one, but preaches open border policy, and another where he will be reminded "my father formed this" by Duduzile.
If the EFF and MK are devils, I wonder what the DA and ANC are?
He won't make it there. This is a serious mistake of joining MKP
@@thomasmokoena6011 you think the guy is dumb? Obviously something is brewing behind the scenes
@Prince-qr1te..diff wings of the same bird..however it does not Not mean u should join Any of them if u All ready Know the outcome?..if there is a crack in ur Foundation u Will loose ur building....a crack does what it does....Ģrows
@@softaz83What makes you to think he’s not dumb? He is 👎
To the progressive forces: Remember, the movement is bigger than one person. The struggle for justice, equality, and freedom continues unabated. Long live the spirit of progress! Long live the EFF! Long live President Julius Malema and the brave leadership! May your unwavering dedication inspire a new wave of champions for the cause.
Justice for a criminal who makes racist statements ... Delusions and dreams
eff is peeling off like an onion. you'll find yourself on your own wherever you are.
To second you, and to take it further, the struggle for equality and justice is bigger than one party, it's about people and organizations which believe in one goal standing together, united, interacting, integrating purposely with purpose. We must wake up fast because the enemy is united against the progress of the people
Floyd loves money
MK has a big collection of people who love money and have money problems
Don't blame Shivambu as we all know that politics is the chess 🎮 game, just watch it how he'll survive into the MK PARTY, let's us not give a JUDGMENT 😮
Shivhambu not making a mistake he will still work for South Africans whether at MKP or EFF
And pray tell what he has done so far???asking for a friend
EFF members must self-introspect and self-correct going forward. Being militant is a courageous thing but also discipline and emotional intelligence is needed in leadership. Regroup, reground and realign yourself with the concerns of South Africans than spreading your wings wider where citizens don't benefit anything.
Joining MK by Shivambu is about money it not about serving South Africa.
Better offer 😅😅😅
It's a bout money not values?
I think you are indoctrinated by SABC too.
He did say this he is not allowed to express the reason for his decision because that might be some king of canvassing for MK.
Go back to the address and analyze his message.
Mk party is ours
Eff is struggling.mk party is Rising this baby is only 9 months old❤
🇿🇦🇿🇦 Im hurt to be honest though I'm not an EFF member or supporter. I think better discussions were supposed to be held between Malema and Shivambu 😢😢🇿🇦🇿🇦
Me too
I seconded your point
The two have a plan
They are gay
Party politics is no longer a trend, most parties are consolidating their partnerships, we saw it with the moonshot partners.....
Welcome home leadership. Woza Mkhonto skhulule.
what i know is Zulu people will have a problem being led by someone from Limpopo.
EFF and MKP are forming progressive political party that will include Cosatu and SACP to fight for landless Native Zuma is not done.
The struggle for economic freedom in our life time is by no means that it could be compromised and derailed. Forward we go as an organization
MK has changed strategy and are now in it for the long haul. The party was formed to scare the ANC straight, but they have realized that there is a place for them in SA politics. This is exiting.
And putin is being hammered in russia, he is in trouble😂😂😂
@@glorious644 a place for them to continue dividing black South Africans
What if he has been deployed to destroy MK party?? Lol politics will always be politics
Why so many people are wishing for the fall of MK? I think that party will become the 2nd official opposition in 5yrs time. Watch the space.
The main question is, was it really worth it for Floyd to move to the MK party? As ex- executive members of EFF, all the brilliant ideas were discussed during their meeting, Floyd had taken 😀 those intelligent EFF ideas to the MK party. He will be shining with those ideas to the MK party while scoring points by dishing them to the MK senior members. The only bad thing is that Floyd won't be shining in the Parliament using those ideas in the Parliament himself, but someone from the MK party will be shining while using those ideas in the Parliament while that particular person will be scoring a lot of points by doing that. Unfortunately Floyd is no more a member of the parliament like he used to be in the EFF party 😉 as he is never again going to say to the speaker of the parliament, "Objection Mr or Mrs SPEAKER", as he is no more the member of the parliament. As he is never again going to enter the parliament's door, but he will be told by the MK parliamentarians as to what that particular day the Topic was all about, which is a disgrace. That's exactly when Floyd will realised that, he blew, absolutely everything up. Which is what Floyd brought it up to himself, but no body else. What a shame?
How is strengthening the MPs, Leadership to ensure you have strong personalities to assist JZ & Hlophe.
Floyd Shivabu knew that there was a plan to contest his position by The present secretary in December. 😂😂😂 He did not give the cabal the luxury to tarnish his masters degrees. He realized that he was one of the youth leadership during Zuma's term in the ANC. He called the princess who found herself surrounded by old men and she was happy to see her peer coming. The rest is history as Shivabu is going to parliament next week.
Princess
welllllllllllllllllllllll saiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd ur spot on
I don't think so
Floyd Shivambu doesn't understand Zulu and it's going to be a blow for him. They will turn against him. They will use him and dump him.
Though its a big gain for thina ma MK 💚, im so sad for EFF❤ 😢 ..
Engikwaziyo, we r ONE PROGRESSIVE FORCE ..together, we MOVE
There is no such, it is only superficial claim no difference to the defunct Multi-Party Democrazy.
Joining MK is the biggest mistake
Why say so?
Why you saying that ?
@@nomalungelongcete5875 🤣What a question? Thanks leadership.
Weelele
He is making a biggest mistake of his life cause he is a DP currently so if it's about growth I don't see anyone from outside KZN becoming a MK president, yeah I said it u can come for me🤷🏾♂️
He knows he is going to jail because he stole VBS money, so he is joining MK to learn from JZ how to dodge the legal bullets.
Exactly😂😂😂
You are a fool when is your president Ramadollar going to jail for money laundering
You sick you
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Money can destroy friendships and many other things in life.
100% AGREE!!!
I'm not South African, I'm a Gambian, but Malema is a sign of Africa we all African want Malema to let you know you even have fan's in Gambia generally in the whole world we love you
Floyd, don't go to MK, you are riding a dead horse.
You can't choose for him
He's an adult
😂😂you are Dome kop Yoh MK a dead horse 🐎😂😂even in election the beat EFF national
I think so. MK will not stand the test of time.
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@@itisastory8759 surely is a dead horse
We've already made peace with the leaving of our Deputy president but we pray that Dr Mbuyiseni Ndlonzi doesn't leave also,cause if that happens im telling we're done for in the EFF
CHE left Cuba to pursue the revolution in Bolivia Congo Angola an Cuba is still standing
Please people leave Shivamba alone.We very happy. Welcome home to MK we are happy with u🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉.
Eyi we are multiplying ❤❤❤❤❤❤
So boring and poor political analysis
I thought it's only me
🤣Emotional political analysis. The guy is so ht.
Our president Malema is supper intelligent but academic wise behind the scenes was Floyd and Dr Mbuyiseni Ndlonzi so if those leave then it's over EFF will now lose it's undefeated streak,everyone in the political world all of them combined they never came close to EFF because of these two,now with them gone,it's a disaster
These prophets of doom who are saying that Shivambu is making a serious mistake by joining MK they said the same thing when Malema and Shivambu formed EFF, democracy is at play here, this analyst must respect the intelligence of Shivambu as a politician and intellectual and respect also MKP and its people because they're not lunatics and confused, maybe for this analyst if Shivambu joined ANC/DA he should celebrated and praised him but unfortunately it should have been a serious mistake either,so sir just back off stop to misjudge politicians and political parties most importantly progressive forces but analyze the ANC how it failed people of South Africa for past 30 years, that was a serious mistake you have to referred to but not Floyd Shivambu for joining MK
Support of foreigners is the straw that broke the camel back.
Calling south Africans xhenophobic was the biggest mistake Malema and pro Malema supporters ever did since the creation of the EFF Threatening Floyd in a press conference was hurting and humiliating to watch.
Drinking tea with Zuma in nkandla was the beginning of flip flopping and public confidence decline.
Mazotti friebdship with Malema is questionable.
VBS is another issueis linked to nkandla tea party.
Big mistake of mr shivambu joining a party without direction
Freedom of Choice
Big mistake Shivambu ANC is ur home
❤❤❤ he is going to open his party soooooooooon ❤❤❤ Mk is only to take a breath soooooon will leave Mk watch the space
Exactly
MK is the heart of black progressive people organization
A party that is run from an old man's compound, with his daughter. Once the old man passes away no one will obey the daughter.
U dreaming
The advantage of this is the worst corruption is being concentrated in one party. So we know who not to vote for.
He is a coward and betrayer , you can`t trust such...please MK dont dont , betrayed eff ,what about you...beware...gevaar inkosi
Ndlozi for Deputy President
Ndlozi got other things to do...but it wont can as surprise
My comment will borrow from an American stock broker who said never underestimate the ability of a brand even when it is going through a rough patch or operational issues hence let's not assume this marks the end of the EFF although I detest it I hope it regroup
😫😫😫Shivambu is hammering the last nail to his political career.With or without Shivambu Eff will stand strong, I love Eff due to its policies but not personalities.
If Ndlozi will get the vice position I will be very happy
As me too👏👏👏
Who will bring the ice and water for malema stop playing games my brother. He is ice boy 😅😅😅😅😅
Kokstad high security prison is calling.... all of them..
This is the wakeup call directed to the boss of the fighters,😅
Undermine Mkp at your own peril🤞🏿
It can never be a mistake to join the biggest party in the land,led by the most intelligent 🧠 man this country has ever had ❤🔥🔥🔥🔥
The most corrupt person
Shivambu don’t join me party man is not future party man .but choice is yours
Prayer works! Confusion in the enemies' camp!
It's so painful! Why can't they seat down and find amicable solution
No mistake its their struggle to difuse VBS issue. These guys are guilty. Zuma promise them that they will be realease from jail like Shabier.
How do you say someone is making a mistake, when you don't know the reasons of his move! Your analysts!!!
They are doing an analysis of the situation with the information at hand no?
Duduzile Zuma and Nhlamulo won't like this thing of Floyd joining MK.
His not making any mistake because they planned all this 😅MK must be careful
Thy say money is the root of evil this one is a betrayal
Politics are becoming more interesting including freedom of choice
Akahambe vele abengekho strong ku debate Viva eff viva khani izobasi strong i eff
Zuma collects what's belong to him, Fikile, Malema, Shivambo etc belongs to Zuma,,no only a fool can argue that
Dr Ndlozi must step up and support the movement ❤❤❤
Long live eff struggle 4 justice, equality and freedom continues unabate🎉🎉
Am happy for Floyd ....need to wear suits not overall...
Wear a suits while you do everything white people wants
Wear overall do what ever your own policy is leading you to
The gravy train has shifted.
I saw it coming as they declare progressive opposition party force against DANC .
I think the so called ''ANALYSTS'' can keep their thought to themselves. mostly its about their opinion based on the like or dislike of the character they claim to analyze
MKP, EFF, Floyd, Julius this and that! Hay bo! When are the so-called analysts going to tell us their thought on the Lybian Training Camp and others in SA???. The ANC was aware of the dangerous consequences against innocent and unprotected SAns. The media houses are buzzing with negative stories about MKP, Zuma, Floyd and Juju. The ANC is not making a big mistake by forming a coalition with the oppressors? Kahleni nina anisiyeke!
Viva MK Viva. Join the winning team . The VBS scandal doesn’t give MK any positive PR since Shivambu decided to join MK. This can also badly affect the MK image. On the contrary Shivambu is intelligent and has leadership skills. May MK emerge even stronger. President Zuma will forever be a struggle icon of this country. Hated by the cabal and Zion media but cherished by those who know his struggle for Black Empowerment. The Economy was thriving under Zuma, no loadshedding no monkeypox vaccine lockdown satanists of nwo agendas. Viva Zuma
Floyd will never be accepted to be president of MK- He is Venda, if he was Zulu he would stand a chance 😂
He is not Venda check your facts. Yes Mk is supported by tribalists but Zuma himself is not tribalist he married Duduzile' s mother from another tribe.
Whatever he is, the point is “he ain’t Zulu”.
I'm not an EFF member but wow 😭
It's sad!!
Opportunities for corruption gravy is looking much better on the MK side.
MK party is a family affair . Shivambu is going to regret leaving EFF . Let us wait and see
I think he's making a big mistake, I mean having been in the EFF for so many years, the outcome of the results as well, Julius needs to hear views of other people as a leader
Moving from one dying party to another one.
What people don't think about is that MK was not formed on the basis of helping SA's citizens, but it was formed to fight Ramaphosa, so they have no direction at all.
@@hamiltonmagagula625 keep being ignorant.
Talking nonsense E.c boy
Poorly run parties as one man show is a sign of lack of being open minded leaders.
MK is also a party that lacks direction and cohesion.
Of course your analysts will call it a mistake cause they are anti MK. Floyd is not stupid. He has been a politician all his life. The same analysts didn't see the ANC reaching 40%, so there's no news here
There are other parties he could have moved 2 not Mk
Name one
This old man analyst seems heartbroken and confused. I always say when two analysts agree, one of them is not analysing.
Big mistake MKP is for amazulu just like Inkatha
𝙔𝙤𝙪'𝙧𝙚 𝙢𝙖𝙙!!!🚮
revenge is sweeter so said nxamalala!!!
It could be a great strategic move for Shivambu and perhaps a necessary one for his own political future.
EFF FOR LIFE