Why I Stop Using Single Basket | Breville Barista Express
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Such great videos, so helpful. The single wall single basket seems to generate a lot more pressure compared to the double basket using the same grind size. Is it normal that you would need to keep changing grind size between using single and double baskets? Annoying if so..
Do you have the same impression with a La Pavoni?
Given that it has a smaller group head+ portafilter to begin with, it's probably easier to pull "single shots" out of?
"I got a new knock box" Hoon, you're hilarious!
You're right about getting more extraction time with the double shot. I do that all the time. But for a single shot you can use a more coarse grind size. with single wall baskets the size of the coffee grounds determines extraction time.
+1 I ditched the single shot too. Too difficult to get it right. Thanks for sharing!
I totally agree with you. I have the same machine - I find it hard to dial in the single shots, usually comes out sour.
Exactly!
I love the vids. Have the same machine. I use the single on 10g, 21g out. 20 sec. But really, depends on the beans. I use fresh beans from costa rica/honduras. And usually those are great. I live on coffee, the single dose keeps me in check. :)
Hello Hoon, I like your channel. A lot of good practical tips for Breville users. I am interested in the 3D dosing funnel that you showed for transferring coffee from the Niche cup to the 54mm Breville portafilter. Is the link that you give in the description correct? The dosing funnel that you get to looks somehow different.
This is another 3D funnel from my viewer in Singapore.
Hoon's Coffee. Thanks Hoon, is this something he would do for other paying customers. It looks like a very practical tool.
I have the same machine. And can’t get ANY crema with the the regular basket. Only with the double/pressurized basket can I get a good shot on that machine. I’ve tried EVERY different way with the regular basket; all different grinds(I ended up on 8 as well) and tamping methods but no luck. So I’m over using the regular basket as well.
I use double shot basket and two small cups side by side under the spouts when making for person who only wants 1 shot espresso in drink
Perfect!
What is the cup that fits in the bracket that you ground the beans into?
That is cup from Niche grinder but it's not fit well.
Hey Hoon, thanks for another great video. Have you noticed on your Barista Express that the water coming from the shower screen isn't very even? On mine, there are two or three spots where water is coming together into a stream rather than individual droplets evenly spaced? I've tried adjusting the tension on the shower screen screw to some success. I also clean it regularly.Maybe you could make a video about how changing the screw tension effects your water distribution on your machine?
Let me look into it. By the way, when did you replace the steam ring?
I'm assuming you are referring to the white rubber gasket in the group head? I've had my machine about 6 months and have not replaced that part yet. How often are you replacing yours? Have you noticed a difference?
@@brycebrown3082 You don't have to replace yet. You machine is still new.
Thanks for the video. Its great. I have been having some challenges with the single. I use the single as I double is too much for me. I prefer to have multiple freshly made coffee thru the day.
The best advice ever from you mate was moving to the pressurised basket. Have used the non pressurised one for years and now get great consistent results.
The dual wall taste good?
Yes i agree totaly ...i always use the Double Basket👍
Common misconception is that a single shot should take half the time which is incorrect. With a single shot you should still be aiming for 20-30 sec extraction time (remember that preinfusion is 10 seconds) so total time 30-40 sec.
I have to try that!
wanted to say the same thing. actually most espresso drinks seem to be betwee 20-30 extraction time. Ristretto, espresso or café crema.
*Cons of using single basket*
1. less coffee
2. less flavour
3. more cleaning required
*Cons of double basket*
1. more coffee (and caffeine)
2. more flavour
3. less cleanup as puck is easier to knock out
Hey Hoon, how about a triple basket?
Great points! I don't about triple.... Too much!
@@HoonsCoffee maybe a ristretto instead?
Thanks for this!
I can't listen to audio recently due to Tinnitus.
That really helped!
Where did you get that cup that fits into the holding device?
Same, wondering if its a 58mm one that fits
I have occasionally got It right , but I agree it is like 10 times harder . And I think you didn’t say this in the video , but it seems like you need to grid coarser to have a chance .
The problem is that the puck is really angular and the margin between not enough in there and too much so the coffee is over compressed is too small .I was using a 90 plus grade coffee on it , running at 2 grind , flows and tastes perfect on the double . Run it on the single with same settings and tamp and fill level and it drips out and tastes horrid. I think maybe with the single shot you need to tamp really light on this machine , but it’s so small that is hard to do
I bought a barista express two days ago (in Europe the name is SOLIS and also SAGE). After a day full of experiments, I also came to the same conclusion regarding the use of the single non-presurised basket. The coffee is bitter in taste and it is a dirty thing to clean.
I have one more small question. Maybe this has already been covered in your channel: the factory setting for a single and double shot, are those time settings or does the Breville measures the extraction volume?
I very much like your channel full of practical tips for the novice like me. Thanks and stay blessed.
I did a video about this. Check it out in my channel.
How many grams do you use to make one cup?
This one I used 9g for that.
Hey Hoon, I see you have all the setup accessories for the espresso machine. But you're missing one crucial tool. The bottomless portafilter. Will you be consider getting one in the future?
It's on my list to get. Do you have one?
@@HoonsCoffee I might getting one next month. The cool part of using the bottomless portafilter is that you get to see how the extraction is going on when it starts pouring. It's glorious to look at but bear in mind if your tamping or something messed up prior the extraction, it will spray everywhere and will get super messy but then again it's a sign that there's something wrong with the extraction. Hence it will reinforce you to fix it in order to get a better shot next time.
@@HoonsCoffee i wonder if crema will send you one if you asked. 😬 It's so pricey.
I will use the single shot, single wall basket and pull a double. Consistent results, good taste, more coffee drinking! Keep up the great work!
ya, i had the same result.
I do single shot with for about 20-25, and found out that its almost identical to double shots but i dont do 1:2 ration because sometimes it tastes watery
I use the single basket and pull a double, and it is great! But are we supposed to do that? Is that going to damage the machine?
I also use double shoot 2x a day.
Never understood the point of a single shot ;)
I bought my Barista Express second hand and it only had the non-pressurised double basket and no cleaning kit. To clean the 3-way valve I discovered that a cheap bathroom basin rubber plug seals up the portafilter nicely (mine is the later machine that originally came with the non-perforated disc) and works just fine for the cleaning cycle.
Adam Poll I love making Affogato, a single shot of espresso is perfect for a couple scoops of homemade Vanilla ice cream (a double would be way too much espresso).
Another day, another lesson. Thanks for the upload Hoon, stay blessed.
PS: will breville barista express be a good option for small café?
Barista express takes quite some time if you're going to be making lattes/cappuccinos since it's a single boiler machine. For home café this machine will work wonders but I do not think it'll work all that well for business uses
@@chulolo997 thanks for the reply, can you suggest any other machine with about same budget.
How many espresso are you planning on serving it per day?
@@HoonsCoffee Around 50 cups or so in the beginning
Wish I could get between 20-30sec for my double shots. N o matter what I do in setting the time,I can't get past 15 sec. Coffee tastes fine to me,just wish I could get the longer time to see and taste the difference.
What kind of coffee are you using it now?
Gary, have you tried changing the settings on the inner burr of the Barista Express?
@@brycebrown3082 changed to 5,same result.
@@HoonsCoffee med -dark roast,grind 8 and inner burr 5,18g into grinder. Have tried 19 and 20 grms and found 18 to be better taste.I have gone back to factory default on time and output as I was wasting too many beans trying to dial it in.
have you tried just waiting 25 seconds and having a longer drink? Then you are basically preparing a café crema which is also tasting great
I never see you using your Niche, do you like to keep everything (grind) Barista Express related for these videos. Or do you secretly have another espresso machine? 😉
I used build grinder for Barista express related videos because not everyone has Niche grinder.
Do you find that by using the niche grinder in comparison to the Breville Built in grinder, does it make any significant difference in expresso quality? I am asking because am considering investing in a good quality grinder but sticking to the Breville for extraction.