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In response to Dr. Cameron Kyle-Sidell's latest video, "Could Covid Be Causing Diffusion Hypoxemia?"
Let's keep this conversation going in hopes that some leaders and decision makers can get involved and we can help the community.
There is new information coming out on this virus every day, if not every hour.
I am not on the front lines or working in the hospitals. I do have a deep knowledge and understanding of human physiology and of oxygen so this video is intended for educational purposes on those topics.
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DR Cameron Kyle-Sidell is in the mist of the fight in the ICU and ER. i applaude him for all he is doing and what he is fighting for. He is Truly trying to save lives and think out side the box. Its crazy how so called fake doctors can use the title when they are sitting at home scared.
The Dr. Cameron Kyle Sydell Said in an interview that he would like to see experts meeting and talk about why the use of ventilator
May not always be appropriate because according to him , this virus act differently and can be attributed to different pathologies.
This approach seems very logical and should be look at instead of ignored or criticized.
NICE JOB! We all need to do the job. Don't expect WHO to give you the answer because they definitely will not. They have their own agenda and saving lives is not one of them. God bless you... and to those who are still TRUE AMERICANS in spirit and in heart. Let good overcome evil.
5G can explain what's going on with allot of these patients.
Here's Dr Devra Davis on 5G:
th-cam.com/video/-AeSoC6la9c/w-d-xo.html
Here's Dr Devra Davis on 4G:
th-cam.com/video/BwyDCHf5iCY/w-d-xo.html
@@CraigC55 agreed...but sadly most people are diverted from understanding this...and most just think it means faster mobile internet. As its said "ignorance is bliss".
Juke User can you give the summary? most people don’t follow the links and watch the videos
Even if Hyperbaric chamber may be useful for COVID, I don't think many hospitals have this machine nowadays.
The navy would have hyperbaric chambers for the divers who get the bends. You may find private doctors who use these machines. Trump should start getting these hyperbaric chambers urgently you would have vitamin intravenously then you go into hyperbaric chamber I have heard doctors are having success also add vitamin d and zinc and make beautiful healthy chichen broth and vegetable soup
With the thousands of doctors working on COVID-19, why is Dr. Kyle the only doctor who is seeing these issues and publicity making his claims?
No kick backs from a "new" medication?
...... Other Doctors have been coming out ....... with video’s and interviews
My in-laws work at Johns Hopkins (one being Chair over the ICU’s) and has described the same thing Dr. Cameron Sidell was talking about. However many medical staff has had to sign agreements that they cannot speak to the press or discuss what is going on and post it to social media. In my area we have two 800 bed hospitals and have only seen 12 Confirmed Covid patients and zero had to be hospitalized. They were treated with Azythromycin, Plaquenil and Zinc. I question the possibility of whether or not there is more than one strain? 🤷♀️
@@MienemLeben What do they think is going on?
Not 670 My sister-in-law is not a 100% sure or refuses to state what her opinion is. The critical cases are showing the same signs that Dr. Sidell mentioned in his video.
In the UK the doctors found that 54% of patients were between 50-69 and almost three quarters of critically ill people are either overweight or obese. In America they've also found that there has been some pharmaceutical implications that already impacted upon the lungs prior to getting ill. We know that all pharmaceuticals impact upon the organs in the body and the endocrine system.
Not exactly. Less than 2% in the 50-69 age group. Overall fatality rate is 0.1 to 0.3 % according to USC, and 0.1 to 0.2% according to Stanford University study. Median age of death is 82, and all fatalities are due to pre-existing conditions. So, Covid-19 acts like seasonal flu.
@@jonathangems Even if the mortality is comparable to season flu, it does seem to be a new pathogen though. There have been outbreaks of flu in the past, so it wouldn't seem correct to just treat it like business as usual.
"The features of the exudative and proliferative phases of Diffuse Alveolar Disease (DAD) were found: capillary congestion, necrosis of pneumocytes, hyaline membrane, interstitial oedema, pneumocyte hyperplasia and reactive atypia, platelet-fibrin thrombi. The inflammatory infiltrate was composed by macrophages in alveolar lumens and lymphocytes mainly in the interstitium. Electron microscopy revealed viral particles within cytoplasmic vacuoles of pneumocytes. Conclusions and relevance. The predominant pattern of lung lesions in COVID-19 patients is DAD, as described for the other two coronavirus that infect humans, SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV. Hyaline membrane formation and pneumocyte atypical hyperplasia are frequently found. The main relevant finding is the presence of platelet-fibrin thrombi in small arterial vessels; this important observation fits into the clinical context of coagulopathy which dominates in these patients and which is one of the main targets of therapy."
www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20054262v1
SARS2 has lack of platlets.
I can’t wait for this. It will be so informative. Thank you both.
I forwarded this video to Dr. Kyle-Sidell's TH-cam page. I really think you're on to something. As a nurse, once I heard his theory, became intrigued. My notes led me to think about hyperbaric oxygen therapy as an adjunct...within a minute, I was watching your video .. synchronicity? I hope you two get to work together for the greater good of our patients
Based on what I've read of his reactions, CKSidell believes things like hyperbaric chambers, zinc, HCQ, D are quackery. The man did a service recognizing he wasn't treating ARDS & not intubating patients but it stops there. He'll never help most patients get well. He's not curious enough.
How about simple blood transfusion to increase the haemaglobin potentials and or iron infusions in covid patients.... ? Seems valid....
Make perfect sense
Has anyone investigated Ozone Therapy in Covid-19 patients?
Don Castella truth is they’ve probably never even been taught about it, since it was so effective. Not great for business if an actual cure was released. Just my observations of how the system works.
It's anti-pharma 🤷♂️
Trump made a slight hint about it and got blasted out of having press conferences!
Potential mitigation for CVAs caused by ischemia presumably due to coagulopathy from SARS-CoV-2: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3417441/?fbclid=IwAR2hAoFd819whQ7bD9WRCwZMmsmkBDkJl71Hd9i7xQ2TKVQwU7JGUMhRdWk
@@macsenhayes What? Trump's comment on heat and light? On disinfectants injected in the body?
I think that the findings with use of CPAP supports your ideas on forming a new protocol.
5G can explain what's going on with allot of these patients.
Here's Dr Devra Davis on 5G:
th-cam.com/video/-AeSoC6la9c/w-d-xo.html
Here's Dr Devra Davis on 4G:
th-cam.com/video/BwyDCHf5iCY/w-d-xo.html
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Not a doc, but thinking about this from a chemistry and valence perspective.
Saw a study about covid "sidelining" porphyrins. and some evidence of that being done by somehow causing the release of the Fe ion From what i understand porphyrins are a portion of the oxygen transport system that are somewhat similar to zeolite cages that, when fitted around a Fe ion, are able to leverage the charge of that iron ion as the primary attraction force to "pick up" the Oxygen. It also uses some alteration to the same to "drop off" the oxygen. The porphyrin therefore can transition between a paramagnetic state and a diamagnetic state, akin to a biological magnetic lock.
What the study mentioned was that the porphyrin seemed to be no longer operating, and increased levels of iron were detected. as well as elevated ferritin.
In separate discussions, it seems there has been a great many report of high viscosity and clogging of filters in dialysis machines, prompting the introduction of heparin.
I believe the condition in the first study would predict these effects
If there is some manner by which the Feion is being released from it's porphyrin ccage, there are a few actions that this will c=trigger, a sort of double or triple whammy sort of thing
Non functional porphyrin - would have a few effects ,
1st(reduction in transport) is the obvious reduction in transport by 1 transport unit, as it no longer has the means to grab a o2 molecule
2nd (incoming ferritin)the prophyrin in need of an iron molecule would put the call out for the liver to send more ferritin, in effect replacement iron ions to recover it's function
3rd (oxygen sequestration/magnetite creation)while the affected cells attempt recovery, the free iron ion would eventually encounter a O2 cell and strongly bind with it forming magnetite Fe2O3. Given the valence involved, this iron ion that historically had been used to manipulate charges of a O2 now increases it's effect on 50% more of the available o2 molecules.splitting some, and creating further oxidation stress.
4th(precipitaated magnetite) adding insult to injury - the magnetite molecule formed is not soluble and would "crash out" increasing the viscosity of the blood or creating nano particles that would clock most filters.
5th(competition) given the strength of the bare Fe ion, it is likely to outcome in the acquisition of O2 and may ever "rob" another functioning porphrin"
6th(increased viscosity) as more ferritin arrives some goes to replenish porphyrin, some may be directly attacked by the virus to release the containing Iron
the cycle amplifies
@Research And Reject 5G Fair enough. We use really imprecise language when speaking of Virii. They are in fact just bio material. They are not alive so phrases like attack are technically inaccurate. Or perhaps the way we define what life is also inaccurate. The reality is that these combinations of proteins do replicate, they do so by "outsourcing" to the cell mechanisms of replication . They also evolve, similarly by the cell making errors in replication. And the errors that lead to poor replication are reasons to extinguish that viral strain, while errors that make that strain more damaging cause them to destroy the cell and spill out to infect more.
WHen taken in the abstracts however, the outcome of these events closely approximate a living organisms functions of reproduction and evolution. We do this for many other complex areas of science to make it more accessible to discussion. It's no different then our approach to talking about electricity flow, even tho we know it's backwards and it's the negatively charged electrons that "flow", or comparing it to a fluid and conductors to pipes.
He explains why he sees the complications of covid 19 as possible cyanide poisoning. He is note sure how covid 19 brings this problem, if it is merely unmasking this toxicity or ....?
I disagree. An increased pressure of Oxygen displaces CO2. The displacement of CO2 over time results in the failure of the lung, heart tissues to receive Oxygen. Displacement of CO2 violates the Bohr effect. Bohr effect violation results in increased death rate. (the ventilators are violating the Bohr effect enmasse)
Thank you for your service, and taking the time to do this response, elaborating on the current observations, etc.
The truth is not popular in this world; but thanks for trying.
The pressure gradient remains the same since the whole body is subject to ambient pressure, otherwise you would be embolizing.
One of the main problems with this is that hyperbaric chambers are not a dime a dozen. Most hospitals don’t have them, and as a former ICU nurse, the logistics of transferring a sedated, critically ill patient from one hospital to another necessitates a huge usage of resources. This might be helpful theoretically but actually being able to treat tens of thousands of patients......not sure how that’s going to happen.
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It be interesting to see if that works. Hope its being attempted at the hospitals that have that pressure chamber.
Professor Liu Liang also complained about using ventilators.
Wow, the link you posted in your main intro has been CENSORED by TH-cam. Not that I'm surprised. All the best info has been getting censored. I am reposting your videos here and there. This is SO important.
I was hearing about oxidative stress. On med cram video & could be the cause of the thrombosis.
I suspect Candidemia, as most people carry various fungi on their body but problems only truly happen once given fungi breaks the blood barrier to then slowly asphyxiate our system.
It's the only thing I could think of which would lead to hypoxia similar to one "dropping from the sky without acclimation time period"
What about the co2? Does the higher pressure prevent its exit?
Put them on thier stomach.
Bad Fairy
You completely missed the point of his argument.
@@johnluiten3686 That is Ok.
Layperson here,
Yes, pronation promotes even distribution of oxygen in the lung cavities (according to a You Tube video i saw)
autopsy from the deceased wouldn't that give us clue to which part of the cells are affected hence proving or disproving suggested theories
Would clotting slow down the red blood cells from collecting oxygen? Would blood thinner be contraindicated?
Thank you, I had questions about my EDS and Flabby lung like symptoms and this helps. Thanks!
Did anyone else think that dot in the upper right was a speck of something on their screen?
If I understood correctly, he warned not to use more pressure. The alveoli weren't able to withstand the pressure. If I understood correctly.
Correct i understood the same thing. Pressure from a ventilator and pressure inside a chamber are very different. Hyperbaic does not damage or pressurize the alveoli, it simply pressurizes the environment helping to absorb a greater amount of Oxygen into the blood.
thanks for what youre doing
Yep but hyper baric chambers are very expensive and huge pieces of equipment given the number of people affected not really that useful but ideal .
Yea, and wasting all our time and money building 100K vents was a great idea at one point...remember
Can we create a streamlined chamber, one that decontaminates its self with Far-UVC and turnaround is cut by factors of 100x
we should try with what we have ASAP then get smart people working on it.
I have experienced very strange symptoms for now 4 months since 5g was introduced in my area in uk.. literally 4 months ive been having very strange symptoms of low blood pressure.. low oxygen.. feeling weak.. sore throats 3 times in 2 months.. fast heart rate.. constant cough that won't go away which recently when I cough I have started tasting metal in my mouth after coughing... or a kind of blood taste... its like there is something CONSTANTLY attacking me.. not an episode then gone... I have NEVER had these symptoms in 40 years of living EVER.. especially not on going for this long.
Same here aside from the metallic taste in my mouth. I feel as if my body is under attack and unlike the flu or cold where I would let it "run its course" I feel with whatever I contracted, I must fight back with everything in my arsenal on a daily basis and have done so for the past 6 weeks. I'm exhausted 😥 I take vitamins, use my juicer, eat a clean diet, cut out sodas and sugars, even use an oxygen tank a friend allowed me to borrow at night when my breathlessness and chest tightness returns. This is unlike anything I have ever encountered.
I am a 39 wife and a mother of 3 and one on the way. I am fit, do not drink smoke do drugs and have no underlying health conditions but I have never been this ill. I hope doctors find out what the hell this virus is and how we can treat it PROPERLY! I am tired of being sick and cannot even do normal duties around my home without being wiped out. What an Awful awful disease this is!
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Medicinal healing (bentonite) clay and activated charcoal can be taken together daily, or probably best separately, in back-to-back regimens, over 2-3 weeks. The simplest method is to obtain them in pill or capsule form. But they are also available in bulk powder form, wherein each can be mixed with water (perhaps between 1 tsp - 1 tblsp in 1-2 cups of water) and ingested, which will likely help with coating and healing the gut lining. I find it best to mix them in a glass jar with a cover, shaking vigorously to improve diffusion. Either way, generally take them on an empty stomach, either early in the am or probably even better just before bed. If taken in the am, avoid eating for at least 1 hour (or 2 hours even better). Also, avoid taking any pharmaceutical medicines within 1-2 hours either before or after the charcoal or clay, as they may likely counteract them.
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Dr. Sonner. I am not a biologist nor an aerospace engineer - but could you put a whole bunch of patients on a jet and get the atmosphere pressure the way you needed for a couple hours. And use the plane as a hospital unit. It would give the airline industry something to do.
Michael, thank you.... im honestly not sure on the logistical side but theoretically yes i believe so. I did a video on it last week check it out
@@HBOTUSA Yes, thanks, I found the video shortly thereafter. Well, a little easier than giving them scuba gear. I do think people need to remember that 85% are older people - that tends to get lost - its still mainly medically fragile people - albeit with a small proportion of others. I live in Thailand this year and it is interesting that Thailand (70 million) has only had about 3,000 cases and 50 deaths - like Vietnam (100 million pop) and Taiwan - essentially no pandemic. I am convinced that either it was a different strain or the simple act of wearing masks really does a lot (in thailand it is 99.9% compliant) and people are used to wearing masks due to pollution. And Asian people don't hug and kiss. On the contagion explanation, its probably both - although I would think we could get a handle on the virus strain issue better. I never thought masks - either simple cloth ones - would make a difference - but maybe it does. Thanks for your work.
This is also why hydroxychloroquine works. It prevents the virus from affecting the hemoglobin just like it prevents the malaria causing parasite from attacking the hemoglobin.
The video by Dr. Cameron Kyle Sidell is not longer available on TH-cam, so if I can't reference the original material - around which this video is based - your discussion of it is moot.
Thank you so much
Isn't this it? th-cam.com/video/k9GYTc53r2o/w-d-xo.html
Hyperbaric Oxygen Chamber.
Because that's not that violent for the lungs.
WOW. What a great explanation. Very interesting.
I'm not a physician, so this may be a dumb question, but when someone becomes critically low in O2 or a decision must be made to intubate the patient - which is injurious in itself - could the patient, instead, be put into a hyperbaric chamber, surrounded by 100% O2, in order to raise the pressure around his body, which would force more 02 into more red blood cells? According to your description, this might ameliorate the amount of lung infection/damage and, therefore, the death rate. This type chamber is used by divers when suffering from Decompression Illness.
Yes they should
Intubation allows for more control based on real time vital function parameters. Also, right now we have critical numbers of patients on IC. Accesibility of these large machines will be problematic, altho it might help. Curious to see how tissue would be using free flowing oxygen.
Would positioning the legs higher than the head assist the fluid in lungs to drain away from the lower alveoli towards the upper chest...prone or supine...much better protocol than using pressurised air to force liquid through a fragile membrane back into the interstitial space and interfere with an already compromised gas exchange mechanism?.
Put them on their stomach.
@@badfairy9554 i agree with the stomach thing... its to keep the virus as close to the mouth hole as possible lol. unlike other viral infections that will remain in a concentrated area, covid19 can attack multiple areas and at different times which is where the part comes in that there is no evidence to say you can not get it more than once. but i wonder if on the stomach could you bend at the knee so the feet are higher than the head like john suggested. in theory it will keep blood in the upper body.
@@popanollie1 Hi SARS- CoV-2 is damaging the ACE2 in the red blood cells. early. Thanks and best wishes.
Looking at some autopsy reports on medrxiv and looks like there is some lymphopenia, mostly alveolar hemorrhage, lots of thrombi of small vessels, fibrin deposition, thick white mucus in bronchi. I’d be interested in seeing some radiopharmaceutical imaging of some sample patients who are really sick . Scanning both ventilation and perfusion. I’m not a Doctor, but would like to know if anybody has done this and what their findings were.
Three questions...
How practical are hyperbaric chamber treatments? Is 60-90 minutes/day in the chamber really going to be enough to increase available O2? Some states only have 1-2 chambers, making accessibility an issue.
How efficient are the tissues at extracting O2 in the plasma versus it being transported via hemoglobin?
As far as adverse reactions/contraindications are concerned, you mentioned that hyperoxemia wouldn’t be an issue, but what about pneumothorax?
Pneumothorax is highly unlikely without puncture / trauma.
I posed this exact same question on @medcram over a month ago. Hyperbaric chamber therapy for Covid19 direct O2 delivery to tissues.
The hyaline membrane thickening is so bad on pathology
How can someone recover from that?
I like your idea of hyperbaric oxygen. Its either that or ECMO
I'm not a doctor, I'm an engineer. But you don't address the issue Dr Kyle-Sidell brings up about the excess pressure causing the lungs to fail. Increasing the oxygen percentage gets the same result without that excess pressure. Furthermore, that excess pressure prevents the reverse flow of CO2 more difficult, or at least makes is more difficult. Instead of knocking his work you should at least be saying the existing rules need to be changed to give doctors more freedom to try different methods during a pandemic. One thing 50 years of engineering has tought me is that engineering is more of an art than a science and should be government by intuition, not hard and fast rules. Medicine needs the same freedom.
Think you got it right. Just keep in mind a too high pressure can damage lung tiussue. Please take a look at my name at Research Gate, you'll find a short review about Covid there.
Thank you Doctors!
Increasing pressure of oxygen in a lung will it affect the muscles of the lungs?
uzma ali Yes, it will damage the lungs. CPAP is a much safer option than using intubated ventilators. Pressure should definitely be reduced on ventilators to protect the lungs.
Fascinating, & well explained video!! Glad TH-cam just brought me to your video (as a followup) 👍 I fell in love with Physiology in High School. Loved this video! Avioli...hmm gotta look that word up, I am pronouncing it a different way ....TY and good to follow up here with outputs in the minds of those that care 🤩
Alveoli
Can 5G exposure alter the structure and function of hemoglobin, causing patients to die from oxygen deprivation?
THAT is precisely the issue...how is 5G playing into this? However, they cannot raise this issue! Because if THEY even say 5G the video will IMMEDIATELY be banned. That is why other professionals are using code to address the issue! I don't believe it is any coincidence that this virus began at the precise time 5G was being rolled out! Look into what roll it played in what happened in Wu Han! There were three ENORMOUS things going on there simultaneously!
www.jrseco.com/wp-content/uploads/Martin_Pall_PhD_5G_Great_risk_for_EU_US_and_International_Health-Compelling_Evidence.pdf
@@witchypoo1663 Thank you!
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Can you please give a current update regarding this issue? Today is June 1, 2020 and nothing has been posted since April.
Weve put out a bunch of updates through youtube through may including ongoing research in the works. What specific info can i offer to share with you?
@@HBOTUSA Thank you for responding, Dr. Sonners. Perhaps you can post links to the updates you mentioned. I can't seem to find anything for May. I would like to share your findings with my two brothers who are physicians. Specifically the breakthrough information that you and Dr. Kyle-Sidell are reporting regarding the different ways COVID-19 is presenting in the emergency room. Are your initial findings confirmed? Being aware of these differences will help fine-tune the treatment plans for better outcomes. There is concern that the use of ventilators are damaging lungs in certain patients.
Also, are you aware of the use of high-dose intravenous vitamin C as explained by Dr. Richard Cheng? He observed clinical trials using vitamin C in Shanghai and he's promoting its use as an adjunct therapy that is safe, effective and low cost. He says it works to reduce inflammation and the damage done by cytokine storm. Here is one sample video:
th-cam.com/video/sfy9K3mOlic/w-d-xo.html
Lastly, what are your thoughts regarding the use of hydroxychloroquine? Why is there so much backlash against a drug that has been used by millions for years to treat malaria and lupus? If it helps to inhibit cytokine storm, as I have read, isn't its use warranted in some cases provided it is used early on?
Thank you for your thoughts.
what is the EXACT cause of the malfunction of the alveoli? What is the trigger? What is causing the cellular failure.? is the virus destroying the cell?
We dont know the whole story. It does appear the virus damages the cell. The immune response and inflammatory response is severe, (cytokine storm) which adds to the damage as well. We learn new information everyday
@@HBOTUSA COVID-19 enters cells by binding into ACE2 enzyme which is part of the renin-angiotensin system which regulates vasodilation (among other functions of arterial pressure). Why are we not discussing the effects of ACE2 deficiency? Whether it is the epithelial alveolar cells (rich in ACE2) being attacked directly or the lack of angiotensin 1-7 hormones to dilate capillaries, both would harm oxygen exchange in the lungs?
Thank You
@@zillafra81 Thank you!
@@HBOTUSA I am just an individual with no interest in medico; I learn Cytokines are produced by Dendrites; ( whatever that is ) On NIH I find viral not in it's host species produces neurological effects thus plausibly - since Dendrites are CNS - then any disruption would influence Cytokine production in some way that may not be realized currently ◘ not being trained in poly-syllable mouthfuls try this: Increasing evidence shows that coronaviruses are not always confined to the respiratory tract and that they may also invade the central nervous system inducing neurological diseases doi.org/10.1002/jmv.25728
Is carboxyhemoglobin due to Co2 diffusion back to the alveoli is a problem as much hypoxia? While we are busy looking at the low oxygenation are we losing sight of Co2 accumulation? Would Hyperbaric chamber better than ventilators !?
Not a dr. but I was thinking this also...Co2 exchange affected by Intubation ?
Does anybody have a layman explanation for how hyperbaric treatment would differ in results from intubation/ventilation? Is it simply due to weakening the body’s ability to breathe naturally?
vents blow up the tender lungs directly--causes damage and has high % of failure in CV19 patents resulting in death...hyperbaric chamber the patient in a chamber full of oxygen is that cells repair themselves more efficiently when exposed to a higher oxygen content via the blood....hope that helps
Does every hospital have a hyperbaric chamber?
Many do, but certainly not all.
Can some level of this be accomplished by nebulizing H2O2 at early stages?
what about transporting patients to areas of higher altitude. Would explain why idris elba is completely fine
@alakev alakev then why were they saying that the ventilators are killing people and that the pressure needs to be turned all the way down
The ones who created this health crisis problem don't want to do anything about this until they achieve their desired reaction. Then they will come in with a solution that will be costly to us and profitable for them.
ozone therapy?
PRESSURE pushing down on you, pushing down on me!
Each gram of hemoglobin can bind 1.34 ml of oxygen; therefore, there is normally about 19.5 ml O2/100 ml blood bound to hemoglobin in normal arterial blood (1.34 ml O2/g x 15 g x 0.97). There is also a very small amount of oxygen that is dissolved in the free water of the plasma and cells (~0.3 ml O2/100 ml blood). do you have any data show how much oxygen is dissolved and more over proof that the dissolved oxygen is delivered (used by tissues) eg sampling of dissolved o2 in pulmonay capillary vs say cardiac vessel capillary..
Your numbers are correct here. Typically we would say 20 ml of O2/100 ml of blood. Based on carrying capacity of hemoglobin. As far as data, yes. This is exactly what makes hyperbaric such an amazing healing tool for wound healing, radiation burns, neuropathy etc. All hyperbaric research, which at this point there is a ton, is substantiating this concept. Depending on the amount of pressure used and the % O2 being breathed in determines how additional o2 is dissolved in the plasma. Your point that there is very little o2 dissolved is partially true. Initially when o2 enters our circulation it is all dissolved in plama but then bound to hemoglobin right away. In this model, there is just a great deal more dissolved, far more than we have hemoglobin binding sites and therefore it stays dissolved in solution while we are under pressure in the chamber. Check out the airplane video, i discuss the amounts of O2 dissolved at different pressures. Thanks!!
@HBOT USA Dr. Sonners, I assume intubated ventilation increases pressure in the lung as well. Can you explain why the pressure diff. induced by HBOT would have a different outcome than the problematic issues we are seeing with intubation? I assume it's because in the chamber, the higher pressure is equal on both the interior and exterior of the lung, so the lung tissue is essentially supported. Is this understanding correct? Thank you.
Exactly correct. Check out the airplane video and see the effects of different pressures on oxygen absorption
Diamox , L-arginine,flolan
They have been testing diamox for months. It doesn't address what the doctor is talking about here.
Arginine? Potentially that could support viral replication. Which would be very bad. I'm guessing you wanted it for vasodilation. Viagra is being trialed currently (cheap these days) however Cialis has a much better half life & is usually better tollerated I believe (though is still more expensive). Possibly citrulline may also work. I'm not sure if that effects viral replication or not.
Excellent Video
No doctor here, but I'm curious...would the higher ambient pressure of the hyperbaric chamber put undue stress on the alveoli, etc?
I know hyperbaric therapy is used on wound patients and I don't know what associated risks there are (If any)?
I'll have to research.
Thank you!
No there would not be any direct alveoli pressure. unlike a ventilator, hyperbaric pressurizes the air, not the lungs themselves.
@@HBOTUSA thank you! The only thing I saw as far as risk factors such as possibly lung damage, oxygen toxicity, sinus issues, heart damage and a few others-but it said in general not very high of risk verses benefits. Interesting that is stated that it does not cure the irreparable damages that diabetes causes. I only looked at a few sources so obviously not a great research. I think the heart damage one was something to do with enriched oxygenated blood. I had no idea that there was so much oxygen left and carried in the bloodstream after the O2 uptake.
Makes me wish I had persued medicine in school than business. To say the least this is all so fascinating!
Thanks again!
It takes years to change a medical mindset....uh
I just talked to a friend working in a Covid ICU. She recommended that lay people should not try to second guess the doctors right now. All of the docs everywhere are talking constantly, trying to figure this out.
Sounds like they need to find a cure.... An maybe nothing to do with a vaccine
I recommend your friend shoves her head up a doctor's ass. Lay people please, second guess everything!
Alvara DaCosta Trust me, they are working diligently.
Gnarby Q I understand the fear and frustration. This is something the likes of which I never saw in my 43 years of nursing.
We are all trying our best.
The GOOD news is that we have already learned so much. We know that early intubation is to be avoided, if possible; that proning the patient helps oxygenation, etc.
Our very courageous health care workers deserve much support. Thousands have been infected, and some have died.
Stay safe
Be well
🙏
@@karenkaren3189 i have no fear of this illness. I only fear our rights and freedoms being taken away and the media's power to fear monger and brainwash the people.. And i fear blind adherence to anyone becuase of their title or position. Truth is truth and it will win out. At one point the world believed Oswald was a lone gunman.
Is HBO an option?
Oxygen dissolved in plasma ? As far as I know a very small amount of oxygen circulates dissolved in blood plasma.
Hmmmm....... I don't know. Delivering oxygen bypassing hemoglobin ? I don't know.. Seems odd and really unlikely. Yet this virus is strange. This hyperbaric oxygen therapy should be go through scientific trials... you know, serious research producing reliable hard data.
All oxygen is dissolved in plasma before binding to hemoglobin. Through hyperbaric therapy, the amount of dissolved oxygen in plasma increases greatly and then stays dissolved in plasma and circulates that way. (Boyle's and Henry's law) check it out. There are literally thousands of studies on the topic, check it out.
Scuba diving with rich nitrox. I agree!
Would Diamox be of any value?
Post mortems..if we are allowed access to them may just reveal fibroblastic hyperplasia of the aveoli much like is seen with human papillomavirus...ie bronchial warts.
I'm not in the medical field but I was watching an episode of the "good doctor" where they had a similar coronavirus scenario..they oxygenated the blood (outside the body thru a continuous circulation system) not sure if from the point where blood should be oxygenated from the lungs then right back into the bloodstream..seems like a good bandaid to buy time..just thought I would would share..if it's a lame idea please disregard
S f You’re talking about ECMO (Extra Corporeal Membranous Oxygenation), which has its own risks of complications. But it is used on some severely ill COVID patients.
Thanks for sharing that..will look up the procedure
So is CPAP not allowed in the ICU?
CPAP is way less invasive than sedation/ventilation
Wouldn't this essentially be the same as raising the PEEP on the ventilator?
Somewhat similar in theory but no they are different in their end effect of oxygen absorption.
@Cosmic Dissonance im not hear to argue with you. I am simply sharing information about helping patients. Co2 follows its concentration gradient and o2 follows its gradient. The immune system is insanely complex and short messages on youtube will never do it justice. Some of your assumptions are on the right track and many are not. The physiology of lung function, the physiology of viral infections and cytokine storms are all very intricate and helping to stimulate certain healing responses increasing immune system activation and getting inflammation control strategies in play at earlier stages of the infection massively affect the outcomes.
It is not a simple virus that causes damage to lungs and lungs stop working
We are living organisms. Your mechanistic approach and outlook can be applied to machines perhaps but to living organisms respond differently and have the capacity to adapt to stimuli in real time and heal themselves.
@@HBOTUSA, thank you for your response. If I understood your presentation correctly, you're stating in your reply to me that increasing the atmospheric pressure outside the body is not the same as increasing it inside the body? I'm not sure I understand why that would be true, but perhaps it would take an entire presentation to explain it clearly. The concern I'm hearing from frontline doctors is that high PEEP settings are doing damage to the lungs and thus hurting rather than helping the patients. Is it your contention that high pressure outside the body would not have that same damaging effect on the alveoli?
That is exactly correct. One is literally using pressure to fill lungs on people who cannot breath properly on their own. The other is increasing environmental air (oxygen pressure) which raises the partial pressure of the gas and has not direct pressure on the lung tissue. (Like the cabin on air plane, you don't feel that pressure on your lungs as long as you dont hold your breath)
@@HBOTUSA, thank you. I think I understand it now. I suspect the number of hypobaric chambers available for the treatment of COVID-19 patients would be rather low, right? So perhaps, only in the most serious of cases should it be considered?
This is very expensive
Maybe all that radiation from that Japanese nuclear plant has finally arrived.
This is not an answer. Dr.Cameron know these rules. You explain what prptocols are saing to do. Nothing new. First problem is regarding red cells, second is a pulmonary. So, first thing to be done is to fix the situation with red cells. In some cases oxygen is good, in others - ineffective...
Since the disease came from bats, perhaps one may look into how bats breathe for a clue? >>>>> Unique morphological,
physiological and biochemical properties were initiated
and refined to enhance the uptake, transfer and utilization
of oxygen for high aerobic capacities. In bats, exquisite pulmonary structural parameters were combined with
optimal haematological ones: a thin blood-gas barrier, a
large pulmonary capillary blood volume and a remarkably extensive alveolar surface area in certain species developed
in a remarkably large lung. These factors were augmented
by, for example, exceptionally high venous haematocrits and haemoglobin concentrations. In birds, a particularly
large respiratory surface area and a remarkably thin blood-gas (tissue) barrier developed in a small, rigid lung; a highly efficient cross-current system was fabricated
within the parabronchi. (Respiratory adaptations in birds and bats) www.coastal.edu/effect/audit/academic/faccomposer/1347218862_BIOL%20343%20%20Assigned%20paper%20Maina%202000%20Bat%20vs%20Bird.pdf
From bats??🙈
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You are pushing conspiracy theories with the wrong person. I am a former ME who spent most of his career in lasers, lasers drive by RF. I have seen ACTUAL, not made up microwave damage from playing with various frequencies, and I think I know the difference between a viral infection and damage caused by microwaves. Microwaves damage cells in a completely different way. Could 5G cause new cancers to crop up? Absolutely, but this viral stuff is utter nonsense.
Dr Judy Mikovits.. Watch all of her content, she knows exactly what's going on.
They're not seeing increased co2 levels in the blood which is why it was speculated as a diffusion problem. Your assessment of why oxygen transfers is incorrect. It's not a pressure differential the causes oxygen to move into the capillary. If that were the case then oxygen AND co2 would BOTH be pushed into the capillary. It's an osmosis of molecules moving from higher concentrations to lesser concentrations, hence the 2 way movement of oxygen into the capillaries and co2 into the aveoli. What they don't understand is why the oxygen is not binding to the hemoglobin. And your topic doesn't add enlightenment to that either
Hi mark
If you watch my videos, i discuss the concentration gradient concepts in great detail. The purpose of using hyperbaric on some of these cases is to improve the amount of oxygen the crosses into the capillaries hyper oxygenating the blood and tissues to allow for improved oxygen utilization while the patient continues to fight the infection.
@@HBOTUSA i know that rhEPO has been tried with some anecdotal indication of possible positive outcome. Are you looking at other ways of making the blook more efficient at capturing the oxygen available to it? It seems like a weird statement but this is sort of the time for blood dopers to bring their knowledge out of the shadows to be put to work for betterment of everyone.
Normocytic anemia.
The wide spread adoption of SpO2 via pulseoximetery has degraded the quality of clinical dx and management. The ABG should be the standard. I was hoping you would define what you call diffusion hypoxia- HASH is the more common. The line is the A-a gradient. This author just wants to make a case for hyperbaric tx. Disappointed.
Hey Adam. Couldn't agree with more on loss of clinical dx and management using Spo2 and blood gas is far superior. There are some tools being developed noninvasivly measuring mitochondrial O2 uptake which i believe can be even more clinically relevant.
Microwave-Induced Interfacial Nanobubbles?
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Yeah, that extra oxygen has to be multiplied by .003! Oxygen Delivery depends directly on Hgb and cardiac index. Why not transfuse them all to 13 or 14? What's the Hgb of a resident of the altiplano? This is basic physiology, guys?!
Cytokine storms.
Triggered. by nano transmitters attached to cytoskeleton of some of the virus to excite cytokine storms
Now come vit D is working .
Stop talking about it and do it hyperbaric chamber increase oxygen and pressure like someone recovering from the bends
How many hyperbaric chambers are there in the US? Less than 1400. If that's the only treatment a lot more people are about to die
@@OldAltaLifty I'm 62 have a heart condition acute angina emphysema, high cholesterol, 230 lb and I smoke. Heart attack in 09 and eleven. Everyday is a beautiful day above the ground! Stay healthy
Put a rat in the microwave for 15 seconds...look at its blood under a microscope...any similarity?
Unfortunately there are 3 problems with this experiment. I don't have a rat, I don't have a microwave and I don't have a microscope. Otherwise, not a bad idea.
@@bdschannel4733 rat probably disagree with us. Use Nancy Pelosi instead.
Please I think its Cryptosporidiosis just take a look!
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I find it quite disingenuous that you call yourself doctor when you only have a chiropractic degree. You are clearly trying to sell a service and take advantage of peoples fears.
Thank you for your feedback Zach. You clearly know me well and have me pegged.
4 year physiology degree
4 year doctor of chiropractic degree
Diplomate in kinesiology
Diplomate in cinical nutrition
certified in functional medicine
certified hyperbaric technician
certfied hyperbaric practitioner
practicing chiropractic and func med for 16 years
practicing hyperbaric medicine for 12 years
wrote 2 books
on the board and faculty of the IHA and MedMaps lecturing to Drs of all disclpilnes all over the country.
Waking up at 4 am to read newly published articles, trying to make sense of this pandemic and share quality information with the public.
Feel free not to listen, my feelings will not be hurt.
So in fact I am trying to have a converation about solutions and help calm people's fears.....
What value are you bringing to the conversation?
Zach geer is a bitchhhhhh hahahaha biacchhhhh
@@HBOTUSA I am happy to hear that you have multiple degrees and and have written some books. I also don't doubt that you have a strong understanding of human physiology. None of this changes the fact that you are not a medical doctor and that I, personally, find this to be a bit deceptive, especially when discussing medical issues and recommending treatment. This seems to be a common theme among many alternative care practitioners on social media.
I have now heard you mention on multiple videos that COVID-19 is attacking hemoglobin. Can you point me to any research outside of the Chinese pre-print paper that is based on computer models? I am also unsure if you are saying this infection should be handled in the same manner as HAPE or that the symptoms are only similar. Can you please clarify your stance on this. I have seen far too many responses from laypeople regarding hemoglobin binding and acetazolamide treatment for HAPE that just don't seem to be based in reality or strong evidence.
As for what I do and bring to the conversation, I am an ICU nurse. I've been working with these patients every day.
@@winstonscully4255 A very reasonable response. I couldn't agree more.
@@zgeer Right only "MD's" are capable of comprehending anatomy and physiology as taught through THE SAME TEXT BOOKS as chiropractors, and commonly by the SAME PROFESSORS.
You clearly have no clue about what you're talking about, troll.