98% of drivers make 8 to 12 an hour on a Good day...minus gas and wear n tear on car...most importantly...dealing with 100s of bad dangerous stupid drivers on the road🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕
@@hectorelmexican4014 Right this week so far 8 hours on their clock 4 hours actually working 85.00 but I declined all craziness 12 miles for 5 ...lol I wish I could send an emoji when they send dumb crap...like really would Mr DD take this order???
@@SoulforSale I fully agree in most cases, but for someone like me coming back from a long term disability nobody will give me a callback for an office job
DoorDash was at its peak around 2017-2021 them were the best years for me! Especially around Covid time! I was pulling of 300 a day in a 6-8 hour shift! Nothing but good orders, Large Orders.. hell I even got tips! After Covid DoorDash fell off hard.. it’s taking me a long ass time to hit my 100 and I get nothing but shit for orders… gotta cherry pick the hell outta orders just to get good ones! DoorDash really don’t care for us drivers getting the food, waiting for the food and bringing the customers the food… like shit 2 dollars is disrespectful but DoorDash is okay with allowing customers even pay that bs… and they wonder why I can’t maintain a high AR… I’m never going to pick up shit orders… I’m refuse to move for less than 7 bucks and I won’t move if the miles aren’t worth the pay! If DoorDash doesn’t start improving anytime soon Ima just delete the mf because this ain’t kool
@@FrankyGuyMan i started 100% platinum - got the exact same trash orders. All that AR% bs is just that. It's a mechanism designed to make weak minded people slave harder for less pay because some arbitrary metric goes up and delivers a dopamine hit.
The Tier Program killed me. I used to receive 2-3 Catering offers per day, haven’t gotten one since Tier Program started and I’ve been with this company since 2018 - they’re happy to have migrants taking the $2-$4 orders, they don’t care and they especially don’t care about the Veteran drivers.
I wonder how the migrants can be profitable doing $2-4 orders, they still gotta pay GAS. With gas prices being so high, they can't be making any money on $2-4 orders.
@@carmanjun4859 I’m in Chicago and we have a lot of them doing delivery here - they’re using multiple accounts like their wives, husbands and other family members and they’re pooling all their money together. At least that’s what I’ve seen and from what they’ve told me. A lot of times you see 3-4 of them in one car as well all Doordashing together in one vehicle, not too sure how they work that but it’s happening 🤷🏽♂️
They have housing vouchers for rent, and they get snap benefits for like 300 a month, and they also get 1k a month cash. So this is supplemental income. If you notice they all got a line on hybrid cars too.
the single biggest problem is the base pay.. 2.00$ is not enough aT All. In 2015 when door dash was just getting started the base pay was 6.00$ It worked pretty well when base pay was 6.00$ all the other things you said are really spot on. but the base pay is the biggest problem.
@@MikeLockheart back when base pay was $6 they were stealing our tips and I still made much more money when they were stealing our tips! What I used to make in one day I now make in one week - DoorDash is OVER as far as I’m concerned
You are correct. As a customer, I canNOT understand why base pay can be $2. People deliver with cars, not bicycle. How on earth they expect anyone to deliver a $2 or $3 order? It's so ridiculous now with post-covid inflation. $2 today is like $1 before covid.
@carmanjun4859 The orders are getting delivered with $2 base pay, why would the gig app companies pay us $5? This is largely the fault of drivers willing to work for peanuts.
@@carmanjun4859 yes, before 2019, you could tip zero and I would still get 6.00$ for delivering you your food, which was low but still more than it cost for gas to drive the order... now I don't understand how door dash can get away with it.
Wow everything you said is EXACTLY what I've been thinking. I've been moving around experimenting with different markets hoping to find a spot to boost my income but this hustle feels played out everywhere
The algorithm is only going to allow you to make so much? Regardless, it's not work harder anymore or location only. They truly know how they program their algorithm
@@TheDecider2024 Unless your area is very busy your earnings are capped. You get a big payout and nothing comes to your phone for the next 30-40 minutes when you know orders are out there.
One thing I heard about DoorDash that is absolutely 100% accurate is that why you do still interact with restaurant employees for the most part there’s a lot of time that you just spent in your car by yourself and it is lonely and it’s not the same as working a regular 9 to 5 W-2 job Where you’re working with multiple people even if it’s only one other person. There is a mental toll that comes with the job which revolves around loneliness, which I don’t really think is discussed enough when it comes to these gig, economy, delivery driver applications.
I literally got a new job yesterday! I quit because of everything I've mentioned. When I started in 2022 it paid bills orders were decent but now with fresh new immigrants (LA) with 4 different phones it's almost impossible to make enough just to exist, especially in major cities like LA. I even into debt because it happened quick. So f.u.c.k that it's time to say thanks for the experience but gotta go.
I feel you on that one. I was supposed to start my new job a week ago, but unfortunately we had inclement weather hurricane Milton down here in Florida screwed it for me so now hopefully I can start this Monday and start getting into the workforce. We’ll see what $20 an hour can do for me to get me out of debt since DoorDash has Landed me in it
@@bobg3221 I'm so sorry! Can't even imagine what you guys going through there.. I hope u are safe and taking care of yourself! I'm not sure how expensive is Florida but literally 20$ in LA is nothing I'm only staying here because I have free place to live for a year got very lucky. But as soon I'm done with my dept I'm getting out here. I just wanna stay away from major cities. Because rent is getting out of control, gas and all essentials are getting so expensive. Anyway I hope everything is going well with your new job! Wish you all luck. You're not alone 🫂
You do understand that if you do nothing you get nothing! This is a Business with customers. They give you the choice to succeed or fail by your own decisions... For every one person that decline, there is fifteen that except! You not hurting their business, you're only hurting yourself!
This is a timeless classic when it comes to driver pay and vehicle wear and tear. In my time delivering I have never found the gig apps to do anything helpful for the driver. Pay is what matters. Pay us well and keep all the trinkets. Russ
The thing is, if I'm using my car and having to hustle from location to location, that comes at a cost in any other job. Except this. The things that normally come at a premium are just your working conditions as it pertains to food delivery apps. If at the end of the night, the hour per dollar ratio works out, that's one thing. But to accept those conditions only to find you're making what the lowest paid worker at a restaurant is getting at the end of the night, where they didn't have to go through half of what you did is hard to stomach. I just don't think this model can hold up. It's just broken.
What I'm noticing is the double or triple pick up and drop off offers on EBT with short distance trips while keeping you from being "active" a full hour. In between those you'll get one going 16 miles and once it's delivered your dash ends because you're in a dead zone. 🙄 I've only made $18,000 destroying my car and after dealing with bad customers who lie and complain, horrible drivers, employees with attitudes, restaurants that use cheap containers that leak out, all of the AR and tier system crap, low base pay with zero tips - I'm trying to get out of it. Plus, I owe taxes and don't know what that's going to be like having to owe money to Uncle Sam.
I'm a Dasher, and I'm Platinum. I'm in an average sized city, if that makes sense. Me being Platinum definitely helps me. I make around $35 an hour plus tips. Yes, I have tasks that aren't great, but around 80% of tasks are good. I never worry about tips. I look at the amount, mileage, and keep things very basic. I don't cherry pick, it wastes time to me. I don't complain about Doordash. If i wanna work, I work. If not, I won't. I focus on the benefits. I access my pay the same day. I have superior flexibility with my schedule. I also find being accommodating to customers and polite gets things going a lot smoother daily. Can't please all customers, though.
Straight cappin. There's absolutely no way your making $35 before tips. Doordash $2 base pay means you'd have to take 17.5 deliveries an hour to make that much money. Completing a delivery every 3 and a half minutes. Completely impossible. If you're gonna lie, at least make it someone believable.
I've noticed this last week, I started a shift around 10:30am stopped around 1 or 2, doing both Uber and door dash and literally got one order that whole shift worth $10 then received nothing from door dash in a hot zone during a prime time. Then Uber offered nothing but low ball orders😩
@lafamilia6155 i am on gold. Not platinum yet. Going to see if it's better. Will be platinum by tomorrow. Hitting 20 orders a day yesterday, today and tomorrow.
I think the problem is that everybody has this endless obsession with earning a certain amount per hour. It’s much easier to make money when you don’t add a time limit to it. There is plenty of money out there. Instead of going out to doordash, go out to listen to music in your car.
I havent dashed in a year and a half. Noticed my area started going downhill with a quickness beginning of 2023. I just opened the app today for the lulz. My area orders were so bad my AR is at 18% i have been online now in dash now for the past hour and i havent gotten a single order in that time. I likely was going to decline regardless but not the point.
Great analysis. I am a former economics teacher. I recently retired and been doing Uber eats/grub hub full time for over three years (mostly because I want to say active). When I first started right after Covid …the market seemed to favor the driver. Gradually over the past three years it had turned in the opposite direction. Basically less deliveries and the ones we do…get paid less. Overall, it is not sustainable. As inflation increases, the payouts and deliveries decrease.
Im a part time Platinum Dasher, occasionally my AR drops to 65% due seeing bad orders (4-7 in a row in a couple sets). But that being said, opportunities have changed in my area, and the payouts are less than they were... but I have a theory. Even among the platinum dashers, if you are over 80% there is opportunity for the greater pay orders...but customers are not spending and tipping as much as they used to. I would say that make this part of your stream of income, but not the only one.
I think your right, people must be noticing the wear and tear on their cars and wondering if travailing long distant runs are worth it and are they dropping their high AR ratings as fast as most of us by declining offers . AR rating is a joke. As much I decline offers I should be in the teens or single digits but I;m still in the twenty percent range. Their AI system is just learning what each person will be willing to do and what they wont do.
It's junk...I've been saying that for a few years now.... outside of major metro areas, it's a complete loss. You forgot to mention the fast food places that purposely ignore, or put off, delivery drivers and food app orders. Door dash really expects the driver to just wait and wait for a $5 job
It's simply doordash will never put a cap on how many dashers they hire for each market. Like many others,two markets I work used to be really good. In the last two months, I've noticed way more dashers in both areas and still seeing hiring ads from doordash in each market. Tony's concern is quick deliveries regardless if dashers are doing well or not. And of course lower tips or no tips (trash offers). In the end, doordash is thriving, but most drivers are not. I'm platinum, and mostly just get recycled trash. I actually do better with earn by time overall. Believe it or not. Be aware of how Tony pays you. Higher the tip,less the doordash contribution. I had a $14 delivery going 9 miles. 12 tip,2 doordash pay. For 9 miles, only 2 doordash pay. Everything has been set up to benefit the company and it's customers. Not the drivers. They knew most drivers would want to be platinum,so how many true platinum offers can go around?
In my area Food delivery was still good last year, I used to get 2 orders for 18 dollars non stop every weekend on Uber eats. Now days theres too many drivers and I’ve notice a lot of those rich whitefolks I used to deliver too Go pick up their own food from the restaurants. I just hustle other apps on my cargo van and still make good money.
Yes on some of that she said but if door dash would raise there minimum dash rate from $2 and $2.50 to maybe $3 or $4 starting plus tip we could all make a little bit of money. Door dash gets around $6.50 and up for every order yet they only offer us $2.50 and they keep $4 and we do all the work. And the freedom they say we have to choose is a lie cause if you choose good one's and decline bad one's you get down graded and even kicked off not right.
I started doing DD a few days ago just to see how it is. I don’t really need DD because I make way more money going to casinos and using my freeplay. It’s a longer drive but well worth it. I’m not suggesting that all people gamble but in my case I have self control and discipline to know when to walk away and it’s been working for me. FYI My You Tube channel doesn’t make me money.. I’m not monetized. DD is just like most other greedy companies that say they care for their drivers but it’s all a bunch of BS sweet talk.
I keep getting garbage offers like $11 for 18.5 miles to the middle of nowhere. Sorry, but I'm not driving 30 miles round trip for $11. And yeah I wait for hours at a time.
Door dash is a joke, I only did maybe 20 orders, didn’t take me long to figure it’s not worth the wear and tear on your vehicle. Just get a regular job
I have to do this garbage because of emergency. I literally don't touch any of these apps unless it's a dire situation like right now. I understand wanting to work on your own and being independent but the economy is not the that right now especially these crap apps.
How many drivers know the actual cost of running their vehicle? How many “full time” dashers have looked up the median household income in their market? There are factors that equal probable success and some that equal possible failure. Know your operating cost and know your market. DoorDash just might not be right for you where you live.
Yep, you can expect to make a living on being a DoorDash or you’re better off to go to college and get a career or trade. Be someone who helps elderly people to appointments. That’ll get out and get that wheelchair out and wheel that person to and from wherever they need to go. At least you have a better opportunity of somebody saying hey this person was wonderful. They come and help me all the time. I don’t have anybody I’m gonna will them my home and all of my property because I have no one else to give it to! So that person don’t get something because God is whether you believe in God or not, and he makes things right and punishes those who do wrong and things for the wrong reason! Just remember that in a little tiny space in the back of your head😅 Becoming a nail tech become a hairdresser have a little mobile station where you go around and you help elderly people you go pick them up and bring them to appointments or you bring it to their home and give them a perm or somebody who needs their nails painted or acrylic nails or whatever they’re so many options of different things you can do to make better money in tips! You just have to think outside of the box. I used to have a local pet groomer come into my home to cut my pugs nails! The pugs weren’t being they just did not like their nails cut and put a lot of stress on them to take them out and to the dog parlor!😅 Another thing is if you’re DoorDash Uber whatever, get to know your customers, and have your customers to call you when they’re getting ready to put in a Walmart food order or whatever to be home delivered! They tip you good and you’ll always know that you can take care of that that’s one person that you know That knows you will call you every time they need food delivered so that’s good! And I say this because I’m one of those people !!!👍 I have a wonderful lady that a lot of times picks up my Walmart order and delivers to my home. So I reached out to this woman said would you be willing to do this? If you would be willing to do this then I will order my food around within a window time and I will let you know ahead of time I’m putting in an order, if they wanna run and pick it up and bring it to me even if it’s off or whatever, I will and I’m only 2 miles or less from Walmart more like about 30 small blocks I can almost walk up there. I could definitely ride my ride a bike up there to Walmart. But I’m older so I don’t like to get out and drive especially in the winter so I well my grocery bills are usually around $200 every week and a half to two weeks and I tip anywhere from $10-$20. Also, I like jets pizza and that’s about three or 4 miles from me and there’s just wonderful Christian guy that comes out and delivers it and he is the kindest sweetest young man and so I make sure I tip him extra and I put a amount into my order and then I tip them again when he delivers ! Because I appreciate the people who try to make a living that bring out my food. The only downside to having somebody go into the store and shop for you is a lot of people don’t know how to shop they don’t understand that the freshest food is at the back of the shelf so if you have a shelf of a can of peaches, the freshest newest ones go in the back in the ones that are closer to expiring they rotate to the front. So when you’re shopping for delivery for someone grab the stuff in the back or take an extra second to look at the expiration date, especially on eggs and bread and milk and yogurt and stuff like that that has a short shelflife . I mean, take a glance over make sure there’s no mold on it real quick and you can whiz right through these things. I know that this delivery person who went and shopped for me extra time to get me the best products and the highest quality of that product, and that means a lot to me so an extra extra tip is always warranted For those people!👍
This is a Business, with executives that watch these videos! A few decades ago, you start a job and to move up you work your buns off and move up in pay, experience, ECT. This is the same today, exactly, you work in a business, you get paid for your service, the economy grows and so do you. Example, truck driver, if he turns down loads, the dispatchers and planner's will have that person sitting for days, this a business with customers just like Door Dash is. Deny an order, your choice but also you choose your own consequences and end up weeding yourself out of the business by getting mad and quitting! When you really sabotaged yourself by not performing your best inside of the BUSINESS! So, you guys can listen to this person if you want to....... Reap what you sow, Do nothing also receives nothing.
Correct, this is a business. The objective when running a business is to maximize profits. Are you saying drivers should take unprofitable orders and operate at a loss?
@@KevinT7274 I also drive a semi, 4-5 miles per gallon! Unlike your cars, 14-30 mpg. If a driver takes a low mile paying load, it does hurt us others wanting to take the load for good pay. My point is like us, you really have no choice, someone will run the orders, the Dash has no worries and you'll just be out there sitting waiting on an order longer.
@arthursmith5409 I'm a truck driver for my day job. I don't like sitting and waiting, but at the same time I'm not going to accept unprofitable orders. The key is knowing the right areas and right times to work them.
4.000 del. top dasher and platinium dasher for last 2 years.. In my area platinium is require %80AR… this is unfair.. left platinum 3 weeks ago.. this week left DD. 0 deliveries.. DD couldnt keep me in as a full time dasher! UE launchs same system, copy paste mistake..
Everything she said is what we all think and wish but not true. Truth is more dashers than ever. Everyone clawing for every opportunity. Many many desperate people.
I think it depends on the area your in how much you make in how it's doing financially. This week I've made $227 on 11 and half hours of work. I stillade made more delivering for dominos around here but left there because of lousy management of the place who thought I should give them extra hours of work each week without base pay. All ofbthe major pizza places will try to robbed you of hours worked even if like me I worked to get the job done and not jerk off too much. Right now doordash is working for me but the area isn't easy to drive here in mountainous east tennesee. I know what they mean by having to put up with bad drivers especially the ones around here who drive too fast on very curvy roads going 20 mph plus on these roads. I just don't want give up my only money source right now to get a job like pizza delivery places where someone will come along in each place you work and will start causing you problems one way or another. I go to work and do what I suppose to do but some people have a problem with that... it's too difficult too handle for some people.
This is my thing. Every complains as if thia was created by the government. It's a random app a random person made that people turned into a job. Its 7 million active dashers and a group of yall can't make your own app to make the changes yall complain about
The completion rate is accurate. Once you accept the order, you should complete it. You took that responsibility when you accepted it. If the restaurant doesn't have the order, or you have extremely long wait, that doesn't count against your completion rate.
Eat shit asshole. Why should I do charity work for billionaires in the hope that maybe they will pay me fair on A DIFFERENT ORDER maybe sometime in the future. They have 8 billion for mergers and acquisitions and 2 billion for stock buybacks but I am supposed to take 2 dollar offers and play these tier system games?
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98% of drivers make 8 to 12 an hour on a Good day...minus gas and wear n tear on car...most importantly...dealing with 100s of bad dangerous stupid drivers on the road🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕
@@hectorelmexican4014 Right this week so far 8 hours on their clock 4 hours actually working 85.00 but I declined all craziness 12 miles for 5 ...lol I wish I could send an emoji when they send dumb crap...like really would Mr DD take this order???
The bad drivers it's something nobody talks about
They could always go get a j-o-b
@@SoulforSale I fully agree in most cases, but for someone like me coming back from a long term disability nobody will give me a callback for an office job
@@urdaty me either.
They don't care about drivers. All they care about is how much profit they can get
Corporate greed exists
Facts.
Decline decline decline. Do offers that make sense. DD will figure it out if their orders are not getting delivered.
DoorDash was at its peak around 2017-2021 them were the best years for me! Especially around Covid time! I was pulling of 300 a day in a 6-8 hour shift! Nothing but good orders, Large Orders.. hell I even got tips! After Covid DoorDash fell off hard.. it’s taking me a long ass time to hit my 100 and I get nothing but shit for orders… gotta cherry pick the hell outta orders just to get good ones! DoorDash really don’t care for us drivers getting the food, waiting for the food and bringing the customers the food… like shit 2 dollars is disrespectful but DoorDash is okay with allowing customers even pay that bs… and they wonder why I can’t maintain a high AR… I’m never going to pick up shit orders… I’m refuse to move for less than 7 bucks and I won’t move if the miles aren’t worth the pay! If DoorDash doesn’t start improving anytime soon Ima just delete the mf because this ain’t kool
You are just like me, 7 dollars is my limit. Anything under isn’t worth my gas, and I’m in a Lexus….. gas ain’t cheap
Illegals with fresh accounts, cheap ass customers, little to no pay - all of this is a total waste of time.
Not only that but if you do not hit 70% or higher you're pretty much done you cannot do anything
@@FrankyGuyMan i started 100% platinum - got the exact same trash orders. All that AR% bs is just that. It's a mechanism designed to make weak minded people slave harder for less pay because some arbitrary metric goes up and delivers a dopamine hit.
The Tier Program killed me. I used to receive 2-3 Catering offers per day, haven’t gotten one since Tier Program started and I’ve been with this company since 2018 - they’re happy to have migrants taking the $2-$4 orders, they don’t care and they especially don’t care about the Veteran drivers.
I wonder how the migrants can be profitable doing $2-4 orders, they still gotta pay GAS. With gas prices being so high, they can't be making any money on $2-4 orders.
@@carmanjun4859 I’m in Chicago and we have a lot of them doing delivery here - they’re using multiple accounts like their wives, husbands and other family members and they’re pooling all their money together. At least that’s what I’ve seen and from what they’ve told me. A lot of times you see 3-4 of them in one car as well all Doordashing together in one vehicle, not too sure how they work that but it’s happening 🤷🏽♂️
They have housing vouchers for rent, and they get snap benefits for like 300 a month, and they also get 1k a month cash. So this is supplemental income. If you notice they all got a line on hybrid cars too.
the single biggest problem is the base pay.. 2.00$ is not enough aT All. In 2015 when door dash was just getting started the base pay was 6.00$ It worked pretty well when base pay was 6.00$ all the other things you said are really spot on. but the base pay is the biggest problem.
@@MikeLockheart back when base pay was $6 they were stealing our tips and I still made much more money when they were stealing our tips! What I used to make in one day I now make in one week - DoorDash is OVER as far as I’m concerned
You are correct. As a customer, I canNOT understand why base pay can be $2. People deliver with cars, not bicycle. How on earth they expect anyone to deliver a $2 or $3 order? It's so ridiculous now with post-covid inflation. $2 today is like $1 before covid.
@carmanjun4859 The orders are getting delivered with $2 base pay, why would the gig app companies pay us $5? This is largely the fault of drivers willing to work for peanuts.
@@carmanjun4859 yes, before 2019, you could tip zero and I would still get 6.00$ for delivering you your food, which was low but still more than it cost for gas to drive the order... now I don't understand how door dash can get away with it.
Wow everything you said is EXACTLY what I've been thinking. I've been moving around experimenting with different markets hoping to find a spot to boost my income but this hustle feels played out everywhere
It's done and berried.
The algorithm is only going to allow you to make so much? Regardless, it's not work harder anymore or location only. They truly know how they program their algorithm
@@TheDecider2024 Unless your area is very busy your earnings are capped. You get a big payout and nothing comes to your phone for the next 30-40 minutes when you know orders are out there.
@@TheDecider2024Seems like there is a cap on how much you can make daily, dash sharing perhaps
One thing I heard about DoorDash that is absolutely 100% accurate is that why you do still interact with restaurant employees for the most part there’s a lot of time that you just spent in your car by yourself and it is lonely and it’s not the same as working a regular 9 to 5 W-2 job Where you’re working with multiple people even if it’s only one other person. There is a mental toll that comes with the job which revolves around loneliness, which I don’t really think is discussed enough when it comes to these gig, economy, delivery driver applications.
Most dashers could not make it to work by 9am
@@SoulforSale 😂
I literally got a new job yesterday! I quit because of everything I've mentioned. When I started in 2022 it paid bills orders were decent but now with fresh new immigrants (LA) with 4 different phones it's almost impossible to make enough just to exist, especially in major cities like LA. I even into debt because it happened quick. So f.u.c.k that it's time to say thanks for the experience but gotta go.
I feel you on that one. I was supposed to start my new job a week ago, but unfortunately we had inclement weather hurricane Milton down here in Florida screwed it for me so now hopefully I can start this Monday and start getting into the workforce. We’ll see what $20 an hour can do for me to get me out of debt since DoorDash has Landed me in it
@@bobg3221 I'm so sorry! Can't even imagine what you guys going through there..
I hope u are safe and taking care of yourself!
I'm not sure how expensive is Florida but literally 20$ in LA is nothing I'm only staying here because I have free place to live for a year got very lucky. But as soon I'm done with my dept I'm getting out here. I just wanna stay away from major cities. Because rent is getting out of control, gas and all essentials are getting so expensive. Anyway I hope everything is going well with your new job! Wish you all luck. You're not alone 🫂
Door dash stinks. I work between 14-16 hours to make 200$ I wouldn’t recommend anybody to do DoorDash
My AR is 1%. They send me nothing but trash.
Hope you learned that way before i did
@@tyharris9994 i was at 0% for 5 days
You do understand that if you do nothing you get nothing! This is a Business with customers. They give you the choice to succeed or fail by your own decisions... For every one person that decline, there is fifteen that except! You not hurting their business, you're only hurting yourself!
@@arthursmith5409 simp! Are you a paid shill or just extra stupid?
@@arthursmith5409 also, English. Learn it.
You are right! Stay tuned for a great movement that is about to happen.
This is a timeless classic when it comes to driver pay and vehicle wear and tear. In my time delivering I have never found the gig apps to do anything helpful for the driver. Pay is what matters. Pay us well and keep all the trinkets. Russ
The thing is, if I'm using my car and having to hustle from location to location, that comes at a cost in any other job. Except this. The things that normally come at a premium are just your working conditions as it pertains to food delivery apps. If at the end of the night, the hour per dollar ratio works out, that's one thing. But to accept those conditions only to find you're making what the lowest paid worker at a restaurant is getting at the end of the night, where they didn't have to go through half of what you did is hard to stomach. I just don't think this model can hold up. It's just broken.
The costs still exist people not standing on business. They accepting every order for $2-$3
What I'm noticing is the double or triple pick up and drop off offers on EBT with short distance trips while keeping you from being "active" a full hour. In between those you'll get one going 16 miles and once it's delivered your dash ends because you're in a dead zone. 🙄
I've only made $18,000 destroying my car and after dealing with bad customers who lie and complain, horrible drivers, employees with attitudes, restaurants that use cheap containers that leak out,
all of the AR and tier system crap, low base pay with zero tips - I'm trying to get out of it. Plus, I owe taxes and don't know what that's going to be like having to owe money to Uncle Sam.
I'm a Dasher, and I'm Platinum. I'm in an average sized city, if that makes sense. Me being Platinum definitely helps me.
I make around $35 an hour plus tips. Yes, I have tasks that aren't great, but around 80% of tasks are good. I never worry about tips. I look at the amount, mileage, and keep things very basic. I don't cherry pick, it wastes time to me. I don't complain about Doordash. If i wanna work, I work. If not, I won't. I focus on the benefits. I access my pay the same day. I have superior flexibility with my schedule. I also find being accommodating to customers and polite gets things going a lot smoother daily. Can't please all customers, though.
Straight cappin. There's absolutely no way your making $35 before tips. Doordash $2 base pay means you'd have to take 17.5 deliveries an hour to make that much money. Completing a delivery every 3 and a half minutes. Completely impossible. If you're gonna lie, at least make it someone believable.
@@justinrodgers1485Yea..I'm Platnium in a very robust area in the North East..Most I make is $230 in 14 hrs
I've noticed this last week, I started a shift around 10:30am stopped around 1 or 2, doing both Uber and door dash and literally got one order that whole shift worth $10 then received nothing from door dash in a hot zone during a prime time. Then Uber offered nothing but low ball orders😩
Worked 15 hours yesterday. Made $100. But.... that cost me a full tank of gas, which cost me $50 to fill up. So..... $50 for 15 hours?!?!? What a joke
15 hrs for 100 dollars? where the hell you live lol
@@lafamilia6155 houston tx
@lafamilia6155 im at $400 for the week. At 40 hours dashing and 65 hours active. That's $10 an hour.
You can’t be serious? $100 for 15 hours?
@lafamilia6155 i am on gold. Not platinum yet. Going to see if it's better. Will be platinum by tomorrow. Hitting 20 orders a day yesterday, today and tomorrow.
I think the problem is that everybody has this endless obsession with earning a certain amount per hour. It’s much easier to make money when you don’t add a time limit to it. There is plenty of money out there. Instead of going out to doordash, go out to listen to music in your car.
I havent dashed in a year and a half. Noticed my area started going downhill with a quickness beginning of 2023. I just opened the app today for the lulz. My area orders were so bad my AR is at 18% i have been online now in dash now for the past hour and i havent gotten a single order in that time. I likely was going to decline regardless but not the point.
I just quit today.
Lul
Great analysis. I am a former economics teacher. I recently retired and been doing Uber eats/grub hub full time for over three years (mostly because I want to say active). When I first started right after Covid …the market seemed to favor the driver. Gradually over the past three years it had turned in the opposite direction. Basically less deliveries and the ones we do…get paid less. Overall, it is not sustainable. As inflation increases, the payouts and deliveries decrease.
In my market there's constantly new drivers. Waiting for orders means too many people.
Im a part time Platinum Dasher, occasionally my AR drops to 65% due seeing bad orders (4-7 in a row in a couple sets). But that being said, opportunities have changed in my area, and the payouts are less than they were... but I have a theory. Even among the platinum dashers, if you are over 80% there is opportunity for the greater pay orders...but customers are not spending and tipping as much as they used to. I would say that make this part of your stream of income, but not the only one.
I'm my platinum Dasher, been for a few monthe.the Orders are crap
My AR is 9 percent and I made $278 today. AR rate and platinum crap does not mean anything. I am in Phoenix AZ.
@mk696 it is but in my area you're not gonna be able to dash if you're not platinum
I think your right, people must be noticing the wear and tear on their cars and wondering if travailing long distant runs are worth it and are they dropping their high AR ratings as fast as most of us by declining offers . AR rating is a joke. As much I decline offers I should be in the teens or single digits but I;m still in the twenty percent range. Their AI system is just learning what each person will be willing to do and what they wont do.
The gig apps are definitely turning into trash and they make our worth feel like Pennies
May be time to go back to that 9-5
I prefer 6-2
you are right, 2 dollars base pay, is very low and no tip customer, dasher need pay anything whit they self.
It's junk...I've been saying that for a few years now.... outside of major metro areas, it's a complete loss. You forgot to mention the fast food places that purposely ignore, or put off, delivery drivers and food app orders. Door dash really expects the driver to just wait and wait for a $5 job
It's simply doordash will never put a cap on how many dashers they hire for each market. Like many others,two markets I work used to be really good. In the last two months, I've noticed way more dashers in both areas and still seeing hiring ads from doordash in each market. Tony's concern is quick deliveries regardless if dashers are doing well or not. And of course lower tips or no tips (trash offers).
In the end, doordash is thriving, but most drivers are not. I'm platinum, and mostly just get recycled trash. I actually do better with earn by time overall. Believe it or not.
Be aware of how Tony pays you. Higher the tip,less the doordash contribution. I had a $14 delivery going 9 miles. 12 tip,2 doordash pay. For 9 miles, only 2 doordash pay. Everything has been set up to benefit the company and it's customers. Not the drivers. They knew most drivers would want to be platinum,so how many true platinum offers can go around?
In my area Food delivery was still good last year, I used to get 2 orders for 18 dollars non stop every weekend on Uber eats. Now days theres too many drivers and I’ve notice a lot of those rich whitefolks I used to deliver too Go pick up their own food from the restaurants. I just hustle other apps on my cargo van and still make good money.
Yes on some of that she said but if door dash would raise there minimum dash rate from $2 and $2.50 to maybe $3 or $4 starting plus tip we could all make a little bit of money. Door dash gets around $6.50 and up for every order yet they only offer us $2.50 and they keep $4 and we do all the work. And the freedom they say we have to choose is a lie cause if you choose good one's and decline bad one's you get down graded and even kicked off not right.
I started doing DD a few days ago just to see how it is. I don’t really need DD because I make way more money going to casinos and using my freeplay. It’s a longer drive but well worth it. I’m not suggesting that all people gamble but in my case I have self control and discipline to know when to walk away and it’s been working for me. FYI My You Tube channel doesn’t make me money.. I’m not monetized. DD is just like most other greedy companies that say they care for their drivers but it’s all a bunch of BS sweet talk.
The low AR takes away the dash now button that's only thing that handcuffs us
I keep getting garbage offers like $11 for 18.5 miles to the middle of nowhere. Sorry, but I'm not driving 30 miles round trip for $11. And yeah I wait for hours at a time.
I hear you, it takes me 14hrs on Platnium to make $220 in a robust area daily
Doordash isn't worth it
Door dash is a joke, I only did maybe 20 orders, didn’t take me long to figure it’s not worth the wear and tear on your vehicle. Just get a regular job
I quit 6 months ago it’s just not worth it
I have to do this garbage because of emergency. I literally don't touch any of these apps unless it's a dire situation like right now. I understand wanting to work on your own and being independent but the economy is not the that right now especially these crap apps.
How many drivers know the actual cost of running their vehicle? How many “full time” dashers have looked up the median household income in their market? There are factors that equal probable success and some that equal possible failure. Know your operating cost and know your market. DoorDash just might not be right for you where you live.
I've slowly moving over to GH and Amazon flex. In my area, GH pays well. No bells and whistles tier crap.
DoorDash is a waste of time now
I agree with everything you said except it being physically hard I mean come on man you're picking up food and dropping it off at people's houses
I agree with everything you said 💯
Here in Australia it's booming. On door dash I'm not driving long distances and I'm earning around $30-$32 an hour.
Yep, you can expect to make a living on being a DoorDash or you’re better off to go to college and get a career or trade. Be someone who helps elderly people to appointments. That’ll get out and get that wheelchair out and wheel that person to and from wherever they need to go. At least you have a better opportunity of somebody saying hey this person was wonderful. They come and help me all the time. I don’t have anybody I’m gonna will them my home and all of my property because I have no one else to give it to! So that person don’t get something because God is whether you believe in God or not, and he makes things right and punishes those who do wrong and things for the wrong reason! Just remember that in a little tiny space in the back of your head😅
Becoming a nail tech become a hairdresser have a little mobile station where you go around and you help elderly people you go pick them up and bring them to appointments or you bring it to their home and give them a perm or somebody who needs their nails painted or acrylic nails or whatever they’re so many options of different things you can do to make better money in tips! You just have to think outside of the box.
I used to have a local pet groomer come into my home to cut my pugs nails! The pugs weren’t being they just did not like their nails cut and put a lot of stress on them to take them out and to the dog parlor!😅
Another thing is if you’re DoorDash Uber whatever, get to know your customers, and have your customers to call you when they’re getting ready to put in a Walmart food order or whatever to be home delivered! They tip you good and you’ll always know that you can take care of that that’s one person that you know That knows you will call you every time they need food delivered so that’s good!
And I say this because I’m one of those people !!!👍 I have a wonderful lady that a lot of times picks up my Walmart order and delivers to my home. So I reached out to this woman said would you be willing to do this? If you would be willing to do this then I will order my food around within a window time and I will let you know ahead of time I’m putting in an order, if they wanna run and pick it up and bring it to me even if it’s off or whatever, I will and I’m only 2 miles or less from Walmart more like about 30 small blocks I can almost walk up there. I could definitely ride my ride a bike up there to Walmart. But I’m older so I don’t like to get out and drive especially in the winter so I well my grocery bills are usually around $200 every week and a half to two weeks and I tip anywhere from $10-$20.
Also, I like jets pizza and that’s about three or 4 miles from me and there’s just wonderful Christian guy that comes out and delivers it and he is the kindest sweetest young man and so I make sure I tip him extra and I put a amount into my order and then I tip them again when he delivers !
Because I appreciate the people who try to make a living that bring out my food.
The only downside to having somebody go into the store and shop for you is a lot of people don’t know how to shop they don’t understand that the freshest food is at the back of the shelf so if you have a shelf of a can of peaches, the freshest newest ones go in the back in the ones that are closer to expiring they rotate to the front. So when you’re shopping for delivery for someone grab the stuff in the back or take an extra second to look at the expiration date, especially on eggs and bread and milk and yogurt and stuff like that that has a short shelflife . I mean, take a glance over make sure there’s no mold on it real quick and you can whiz right through these things. I know that this delivery person who went and shopped for me extra time to get me the best products and the highest quality of that product, and that means a lot to me so an extra extra tip is always warranted For those people!👍
How about when a restaurant is out of something and you have to call the customer with no answer. Too much hassle for a $5 pay
Its all about being online for 14 hours and driving your car around for about 2 hours of pay . Its like breaking even
Just multi app. Follow the money. Cherry pick enough and they'll change things when their completed orders drops.
This is a Business, with executives that watch these videos! A few decades ago, you start a job and to move up you work your buns off and move up in pay, experience, ECT. This is the same today, exactly, you work in a business, you get paid for your service, the economy grows and so do you. Example, truck driver, if he turns down loads, the dispatchers and planner's will have that person sitting for days, this a business with customers just like Door Dash is. Deny an order, your choice but also you choose your own consequences and end up weeding yourself out of the business by getting mad and quitting! When you really sabotaged yourself by not performing your best inside of the BUSINESS! So, you guys can listen to this person if you want to....... Reap what you sow, Do nothing also receives nothing.
Correct, this is a business. The objective when running a business is to maximize profits. Are you saying drivers should take unprofitable orders and operate at a loss?
@@KevinT7274 I also drive a semi, 4-5 miles per gallon! Unlike your cars, 14-30 mpg. If a driver takes a low mile paying load, it does hurt us others wanting to take the load for good pay. My point is like us, you really have no choice, someone will run the orders, the Dash has no worries and you'll just be out there sitting waiting on an order longer.
@arthursmith5409 I'm a truck driver for my day job. I don't like sitting and waiting, but at the same time I'm not going to accept unprofitable orders. The key is knowing the right areas and right times to work them.
Location might be a factor... And yeah . .. company cars
4.000 del. top dasher and platinium dasher for last 2 years.. In my area platinium is require %80AR… this is unfair.. left platinum 3 weeks ago.. this week left DD. 0 deliveries.. DD couldnt keep me in as a full time dasher! UE launchs same system, copy paste mistake..
My wife just quit she wants to work but with the new tier system she can't do 100 a month because no schedule available it's always only Grey
Door dash cares about the 💰
Damn i was thinking about starting back. I made pretty good back in 2019. Was making 250 a day on Saturday and Sunday
Don’t do it it is a waste of time anymore. Trust me.
All of the smart drivers quit 2 years ago
Their stocks are at record highs, especially door dashes
Everything she said is what we all think and wish but not true. Truth is more dashers than ever. Everyone clawing for every opportunity. Many many desperate people.
I try and dash and then get offered 7 dollars for 15 miles so I turn it off. I get way better tips on uber eats and instacart
I dash part time still working for me
Ya I get on to do a few that’s it I rather do uber if they wanna make me drive far
I’m averaging $26 an hour on DD. My market is awesome.
Where do you live?
@@rachaelcaruso7096He is not going to tell you where he lives Rachael. Love you boo
I think it depends on the area your in how much you make in how it's doing financially. This week I've made $227 on 11 and half hours of work. I stillade made more delivering for dominos around here but left there because of lousy management of the place who thought I should give them extra hours of work each week without base pay. All ofbthe major pizza places will try to robbed you of hours worked even if like me I worked to get the job done and not jerk off too much. Right now doordash is working for me but the area isn't easy to drive here in mountainous east tennesee. I know what they mean by having to put up with bad drivers especially the ones around here who drive too fast on very curvy roads going 20 mph plus on these roads. I just don't want give up my only money source right now to get a job like pizza delivery places where someone will come along in each place you work and will start causing you problems one way or another. I go to work and do what I suppose to do but some people have a problem with that... it's too difficult too handle for some people.
When DD makeschangesits to benefit them, not the dasher.
This is my thing. Every complains as if thia was created by the government. It's a random app a random person made that people turned into a job. Its 7 million active dashers and a group of yall can't make your own app to make the changes yall complain about
Who not quitting its just getting deactivated for no reason or lier customer
I'm hoping for a uptick soon with seasonal demand. Do you happen to have the stats during your season experiences?
Money, the end
up the base pay DD
Why would they? The orders are getting delivered.
100% true 😢❤😂😅😊
100 percent
shii ian done im making good money yall quit so i can stay out there🤣🤣
Hmmm...
The completion rate is accurate. Once you accept the order, you should complete it. You took that responsibility when you accepted it. If the restaurant doesn't have the order, or you have extremely long wait, that doesn't count against your completion rate.
DoorDash is great to don’t listen to her
Become a platinum dasher and stop cherry picking and u will make money
Tony love his servant like you!! 😂
@@delusionalz8707 yep and that's OK and I be making my money and paying my bills
by keep losing money?
LMFAO🤘
Eat shit asshole. Why should I do charity work for billionaires in the hope that maybe they will pay me fair on A DIFFERENT ORDER maybe sometime in the future. They have 8 billion for mergers and acquisitions and 2 billion for stock buybacks but I am supposed to take 2 dollar offers and play these tier system games?
com on ? its never been about drivers its always been about doordash