Thank you so much Bruce, your comment is worth a few button pushes to me. Hope next Friday you can press the button on my new video. Thanks for watching, Gary
Turned two bowls and amazed at the results. Perfect 12 degree wedges don't seem to be critical. They all smoosch together and adhere. the cables don't work well but rubberbands seem to do the trick. A great product and great video
Thanks Gordon. That is the cool thing about it. The angle does not have to be perfect. Like you said they just slide in place. It is a matter of the side angle changing just a little. Thanks for watching, Gary
Hi Gary... Beautiful bowl... I can see why you were so excited about this one.. I thought that it must be special after you mentioned it on the last video... And you didn't disappoint... Great video as always... Take care...All the best.....Andy
Thanks so much Andy. Yes it was really fun and I was looking forward to trying it. This week will be back to basics while I think on another idea. Thanks for watching, Gary
Wow Gary, your work is amazing!! You should submit this to AAW magazine, I bet they show it in the magazine. Thank you so much using the lacquer and using our paste in a different manner, we appreciate everything yo do for us!!!
Thank you very much Tom. I find that using the abrasive paste works great for me and much easier than the buffing wheels do for me. Thanks for watching, Gary
Thank you Josh. I think you know how much I enjoy figuring how to do something. Probably why I try to move on to something else. Not to say I will not do this process. But I will use the idea to make something that looks much difference. Thanks for watching, Gary
I have already closure that you are a magnificent teacher, Gary. Now I’m quite convinced that you are also a bona fide genius. That is absolutely beautiful, my friend. I’m sure there will be many turners grabbing this idea. This video is a winner in every way, buddy. Thanks for sharing. You really do have remarkable knowledge! 👍👍👍😃😃🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦 Happy turning, …..Gord
Wow Gord I do not know what to say for all those kind words other than.............THE CHECKS IN THE MAIL LOL Seriously I do appreciate everything you said more than I can say. It is a fun project and plan to expand on it a little. Take care and Happy turning as well my friend, Gary
They just keep getting better, Gary! Amazing to me how you figured out the angles of each piece and the cone center, but you did and it came out to perfection! Nice job of turning and a great design to the overall shape. Really well done, my friend! Phil
Thank you Phil! Well as I said at the beginning this will seem like a magic trick, I remember as a kid learning a simple magic trick and was amazed when it worked. Same thing happened here LOL. I knew it would work but was pretty happy with how well it worked. I rewarded myself with a simple but pretty bowl today. But I do add a little trick in the process to keep it from being to boring. Thanks for watching my friend and be well, Gary
Great to see a video, that's very hands on and very instructive, And where the instructor, doesn't chew one's ear off, with irrelevant chit-chat. Very well presented Pops!!
That is completely amazing!! **Stands up on chair applauding** I have been waiting to see how something like this is done. Ever since I started watching segmented bowl videos, I knew something like this was possible, I just couldn't figure out how. You have not only showed how, you showed how easy it is to get a result like that. I can't wait to try it out myself. The only question I have is what is the angle of the cone you used for the center plug? Seems like that would be a critical dimension. Awesome Gary! You have outdone yourself again. And that is not an easy accomplishment. Thank you very much.
Thank you Mark for your very kind words. For sure it is a very cool process. And yes it is pretty easy. So the cone...well I have no idea what the angle is and I will tell you why. When I had the rubber bands around it I opened the top to see if it would do what I wanted. Then I took a piece I use as a jam chuck and poked it into the hole. Gave me a starting point. I then put a piece in the lathe and turned a random cone based on what I saw. Tried it out and then cut the smaller end down even more. Tried and saw I could get the pieces to close up. So it could have been anything and opening the top or the bottom a little and you can make the joints fit. Kind of like the magic trick I spoke of. If that does not make a lot of sense you can contact me and I will explain more. Gary
Well, you were not kidding when you said it was like magic watching this thing come to life. That was amazing! What pleases me the most about this entire project is that you got your idea from an old magazine. I love new technology and the development of all crafts and hobbies and industries, but there's something satisfying about the old being just as good as the new, if not better.
Thank you Jay. It sure felt like magic when all those joints closed up and had the cool twist to them. I have discovered that this went back even farther to a 1944 Popular Mechanics. So the article in the magazine 70 years newer saying he developed it was not aware it had already been done. But that is the case with many things. I once thought I designed a tool to remove a bronze bear from the rear of a transmission. Then went to the auto parts store to find out they had one there to rent. But I had no idea and I am sure that happens a lot. Thanks for watching my friend, Gary
@@ThePapa1947 That is very interesting. There is no new thing under the sun. My dad was a heavy duty mechanic for his career. He has a similar story about a jig they had adapted to switch plow blades from summer duty to snow plows. Normally, it was done on a schedule, in time for the season. An early blizzard made a quick fleet switch necessary. The jig saved a lot of time and was used every season after that. Years later, he encountered a similar jig at a different shop, operating on the same principles. It should have been written into the standard equipment manual.
Wow Gary that is just so gorgeous. I really appreciate how you show every step in how you make your unique segmented pieces such as this one as well as others that you’ve done and how you explain why and how you are doing certain things. This is certainly something that I will have got to try. Magnificent work and great video.
Thank you Scott. I am happy you enjoy my videos and I believe that sharing is something we can do for free and the rewards can be priceless. Thanks for watching, Gary
Thank you Terry, very happy you liked it and Phil did as well. Thats fine because a few people have called me Phil and I take it as a compliment😊 Gary from Oregon
Thanks so much Kevin I appreciate your comment. The next one will not be an experiment and I have some ideas to make it look different. Thanks for watching, Gary
Papa, You have managed to create a master piece out of an “experiment”! Many thanks for the hours you put in to bring us a few minutes of pleasure and excellence. Happy New Year and many happy returns thereof 🎆.
I am impressed by your "vision" and tenacity to try new things, venture into new territories as well as giving rebirth to forgotten designs and methods.
I really love this! You did an amazing job explaining the geometry of how it works. Thank you so much! I always enjoy watching your videos. You really do amazing work!
Thanks so much Art. That will make a nice present for sure. My wife sure loves it. So just take your time and do not glue anything together until you know the joints are perfect. Let me know if you have any questions. Take care, Gary
Ya never cease to amaze me, Gary! That is a really neat wood turning. You provide me with so much food for thought on what I would like to do in turning wood.👍👍👍👍👍
Stunning! I had to watch this three times to make sure of the math and steps involved in the glue-up procedure. As always, your instructions are clear and precise. I really like the way you show how to create and set up your measuring tools/rigs. Those angles came out so perfect! The finish was pure genius. Looking forward to more of these. Thank you!
WOW! This is really a nice-looking piece. I like the wood and color combination. The skew makes it stand out with a very interesting look - especially since the inside and outside seem to have two different patterns even though they both came from the same glue-up. I am also retired and am in the process of building a woodshop and hope to be turning soon.
Wow, what a stunning result! I've never tried segmented bowls but this may make me take the bait. :) . So it begs a couple questions. The angle on the center cone is this a certain angle for a reason or would any angle work? Would there be any advantage (or disadvantage) to having you initial blocks cut sideways so you not turning away end grain to hollow the bowl. Too many questions but absolutely love the result of your "experiment".
Thank you Larry and you have a lot of very good questions. Yes the angle is important to create the look as well as making sure all the joints close up. So I opened the piece by hand looked at how the pieces fit. Taking a guess I turned the cone and used it. It showed me that if I took 2 pieces out the joints would all close up. If it didn't I could adjust the cone till they did. Because the 2 types of wood it was important that they be removed in pairs. If I would have ran the grain the other way I would have had end grain completely around the outside of the bowl and lost all the beautiful grain. the only way to avoid that would be using some 4 inch thick planks of wood and have all the end grain be the glue joints. Hope that all makes sense and if not let me know. Thanks for watching, Gary
@@ThePapa1947 Thanks for the great answers. Was missing what the other result would be so I am glad you explained it to me. Definitely need the wood grain exposed and not end grain on the side of the bowl. Going to have to give this a try. Absolutely love the result. Thanks again for sharing this "experiment". :)
Another great idea Gary, sometimes I really wonder where you get your inspiration from. Did you really do the math on that compound angle or was it merely a guesstimated fit? I've got something new to try. Thnx for sharing! 😎
Thank you Leo. The math was easy if the pieces were radial but knowing they would change as I opened the shape up I had not idea what it would be for sure. When I opened it up 30 pieces no longer fit so I took two out and they fit fine. So I did the math on the angle using 28 pieces. I do have software that will do compound angles and need to reload it (had to get a new computer)and I will see what it comes up with. It is cool how they sort of self fit as you change the taper. Thanks for watching, Gary
I looked at the other comments and realized I cannot come up with a superlative that hasn't already been mentioned. That said, this was the nicest "experiment" I've ever seen and feel just bold enough to try something like this myself. Thank you for the inspiration!
Thank so much for your comment. For sure try something like this. I have gotten pictures already from someone who has tried it after watching and was very successful. Thanks again for watching and commenting. Gary
Thank you very much Dana. I have always loved math...except for algebra. Which I don't think I ever got! Geometry and trig...that is another story. At work I always wore out the tan. button on my calculators. It was like magic when I found out how easy it was to layout perfect angles. Thanks for watching, Gary
Thank you Dallas. I do my best to have the best joints I can get. I would say the most important thing go do is a dry fit and if it does not look right sometimes swapping the pieces around can help. Thanks for watching and commenting, Gary
Hi Garry, thank you for showing us your amazing way of gluing segments together. You did a great tutorial on how to make this, and I used that info to make a glued segments project. Cheers, Hans Stay safe and keep turning
My dad always said it looks good at 55 mph.i other words it looks good to anyone driving by at 55.lol .that bowl is absolutely beautiful n stunning to look at.very cool project gary.nice work.
Thank you! There was a guy at work that really did not care if what he made looked good or not as long as he got a paycheck. He always said "Looks good from my house" It became a common phrase. I like that 55 MPH one as well. I might have to use that, Thanks for watching, Gary
I have worked with wood all my life. My love affair with wood what makes me appreciate your share videos like this. Learning so much and plan to try it myself. Thanks
Thank you Steve. I have had a love affair with wood since 1960 in a grade school shop class. I went on to be a wood pattern maker and worked with wood everyday. Never got bored of it and after almost 10 years of retirement still have not. Best of luck when you do give it a try. Thanks for watching, Gary
Mysterious puzzle solved 😃 Finaly, finaly! I was waiting for this video from a long time. Not so long as You Gary, but here it is. First time I have seen a video how to get that pattern on segmented bowl. Idea is very simple as You said, just a bit of work and a cone. My mind couldn't figure out that without a video. Beautiful work and thank You for sharing with us this knowledge 🤝😀 Take care my friend 👍 Rav
Thanks so much Rav. I think you know how much fun I had making this one! If you do decide to put this on your list I have no doubt you will be successful. Happy turning my brother from afar.. Gary
@@ThePapa1947 I have this project on my to do list from long time. Now I have Your incredible video. Fun will be prima sort. At first need to make a jig to cut angled boards and this will be a good fun too 😁 If I will have problems with it I will back to You asking for help. Be safe soulmate 🙏 Rav
@@ThePapa1947 Oh gosh sorry you just sound so like him! And I should have said... the bowl is absolutely outstanding - the design and that finish - wow! x
Incredible!!! Thank you again. Usually I think 🤔 “Gary makes the amazing look simple “. Listening to you talk about the math... I realize if I was that smart I’d be dangerous.
Thank you Barry! I got a good chuckle over your last comment. Hopefully this will help others understand with out the math. I remember early on in my apprenticeship how to use trig to my advantage and it sure made my job easier. Thanks for watching, Gary
Brillaint and very clever how you worked out a method from just a picture. If this was an 'experiment' your gallery pieces must be unbelievable! Just kiddin. Experiments often turn out better than we might have expected and even when they don't they lead to ideas for something even better. Well done Gary.
Thank you Ray! I love working from a picture and not watching how it might be done. I had a doctor that was a wood turning and he showed me a photo of a multi axis turning he made so I studied the photo and made it with methods I knew would work. That is where the challenge comes from. Thanks for watching, Gary
@@ThePapa1947 Hi Gary, your reply got me to think: What/where is the challenge? I've only been turning a few years. At first the challenge was: Can I use these tools to do what i want them to do effectively, safely and well? (I still have some learning to do on that score!) And then it was: Can I make whatever it was - box, bowl, vase, offset, textured, etc etc. (Still lots to learn there!) And then I found what really appealed was doing something I'd not done before, examples 3 cornered bowl, square bowl, offset twig pot and could I do so to gallery standard? (still learning). Now? I quite like the challenge of: What the heck do I do with this? It's almost starting from zero with a lump of wood and transforming it . . . to something very different from what one started with. Sometimes it ends up as smaller piece of firewood but, hey, one has still learned! Other times, well, it's just such a transformation and it tells a story. And people are different, my wife likes plain and simple (i hope that excludes me!), whereas an arty friend likes 'character' in a piece. I guess folks are different and challenges differ for different folks and over time. I appreciate you sharing your challenges and appreciate even more the great job that you do.
I really love watching how you went from idea to execution. The end product is a real thing of beauty! Watching the amazing color ṕop'from the wood when you ar finishing it really blew me away. Seriously thinking of looking to find a beginner wood turning class somewhere nearby and have a crack at this myself. Think it could be very relaxing and rewarding :)Thank you for sharing.
Thank you very much for your comments. It is very relaxing and finding someone who can help you get started is a good idea. This is not your standard segmented turning but not all that hard do do. There are a few who do classes on segmented turning but just getting started in the basics is a good idea. Best of luck and thanks for watching, Gary
Another beauty Gary, amazing design and execution. your explanations are very clear. Thanks again, I really appreciate all the effort you put into your videos. Kevin
Hi Prof, Papa. A Nice technical challenge, with simple well thought out solutions. The end result looks great. I think I will have to dig out my old Magazines and search for some inspiration from the past. God Bless, stay safe. Tony
Thank you Tony! I learned something very interesting. The magazine I saw this in gives credit to the idea to the person in the article. That was 2014. A viewer pointed me to a Popular Mechanics magazine from 1944 of this same idea. So like I have said many times there are not very many things that have not been done before. And so many of these new ideas came from what we see in nature. God Bless my friend, Gary
I am so very impressed! I was inspired by your video on the triple axis turning and I tried that today. I'm relatively new to turning and I'm using a mini lathe made for pens and such. But I was able to follow your instructions and mathematics. It's not perfect but still nice considering. I can't wait to upgrade to a bigger lathe and try a bowl like this one. Great job!!!
Thank you very much. Happy to hear you were able to do the 3 axis turning. I am sure you will love getting a bigger lathe but have fun on the one you have. You can do the same thing but just a little smaller. Gary
Gary, I think this bowl is amazing and it would make a great candy dish for my grandchildren (hint hint) keep up the great work, I enjoy watching you work..
Thank you Gary, I suppose with a very good blade and a slow cut you might be able to. It might take a bit of sanding. If so I would use a sheet of sandpaper on a flat board and hold the piece against it and sand it by hand. You could give it a try and see if it is worth it. Best of luck, Gary
Candy bowl for a member of Round Table club. Super "experiment" Gary . Choice of woods makes it. Have you ever seen the router bit they use for making hollow masts and booms. They interlock and eventually make a circle or oval if you insert a straight section. I bought one and used it to make the top of a "Hope Chest" for my grandson's 21st birthday. Looks like a pirates trunk. All done in walnut with custom made brass banding, corners, hinges and latch. The bit came from Lee Valley tools here in Canada. I'm sure with alternating woods a fine bowl or vase could be turned. Thanks for posting.
Thank you Ron. I looked up what I think you are talking about. Does it make a birds mouth joint? Your chest reminds of of toy box I made our kids years ago. I staved it up and it is sort of half chest half barrel. It is still around as well as the circus style toy box I made them Thanks for watching and commenting. Gary
Fantastic technique and it didnt look too hard. Had to try for my self and got pretty satisfyed. Many parts to fit. Next time I Will use a slower glue🙃
Thank you and it is fairly easy. I used Titebond lll. I also try not to use much clamping pressure till all the pieces are in place. Thanks for watching. Gary
Thank you Diana. Well I used a lot of geometry in my job as a wood pattern maker. And had to design in 3D what the engineers came up with. So that does help. Thanks for watching, Gary
Wow, Gary, this bowl is just the stark-naked miracle, as we would say in Swiss German!!! Breathtakingly beautiful, really really creative, Gary's segmented bowl master-class, supreme level! Not bad at all for an experiment, yes sir! Absolutely love it... I will call this Gary's Aladdin Bowl... Be sure to have a good wish ready, just in case you rub on it and let the genie out of the bowl... Can't wait to see more of your segmented work, Gary, thank you for sharing! PS: I have the same veggie steamer thingy, and it is super practical, I use it all the time... You are right, same principle, still I think your bowl is a lot cooler!
Thanks so much for your wonderful comments I enjoyed them all. Stark- Naked Miracle is a new one. As I was rubbing on it I did see something coming out...but that was the dust from the sand paper LOL. Yeah as soon as I put that cone in the opening I knew it reminded me of something then I figured it out. We have 2 of those steamer thingies and they get used a lot. Thanks for watching and all your comments. Gary
Gary, thank you for the time you invested in producing not just the bowl, but the video, A+ on the pace of the video, your instructions, and the views we got to see. I recently picked up a used Jet lathe as a “pandemic hobby.” I haven’t turned since high school wood shop, and I remember it as a highlight of HS, and have been playing with some simple bowl projects. Your video inspires me to push my skill set and consider more difficult projects. Last, it sounds like you enjoyed (had fun) with the project which is awesome. Your are the Yoda of turning!
Thank you so much Dave! Very happy you enjoy my videos and appreciate you commenting. Also happy you decided to get yourself lathe. You will really enjoy it. I have loved the wood lathe since a grade school shop class in 1961 Thanks again and have fun! Oh, your name says In Sandy? Is that where you live? We have a Sandy Oregon here where I live. Just wondering. Gary
@@daveinsandy After asking you I looked at you channel and saw David Douglas High School so I knew it had to be Sandy Oregon. Yes I live in Garden Home Oregon. It is sandwiched between Portland, Tigard and Beaverton. I was born in Vanport and we left there when our house floated down the Columbia in the big flood.
Hi Gary, Superb piece, I really like the design and the shape of the bowl, also the choice of wood species gives us a nice contrast 👍👍 and congratulations for the 👏👏take care finish Morgan
Thank you very much Jeffery and welcome to the world of wood turning. Here is one you might want to try before this one here. th-cam.com/video/YYUa9w59BzY/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ThePapa1947 Thanks for watching, Gary
Thank you very much. I appreciate your comment. I like to break things down to the simplest way I can. And then do each step without getting to far ahead but still thinking about it. I am working on something else that I have to prove out if it will and how it does. I found out that it will and had to get the pencil and paper out to figure out why it works the way it does. It will be coming soon. Thanks for watching, Gary
I’m sorry, I could only press the like button once. This one deserves several!
Thank you so much Bruce, your comment is worth a few button pushes to me. Hope next Friday you can press the button on my new video.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947
Excellent. I must give it a try.
Thank you Joe. Best of luck! They are lots of fun and not all that hard.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Gary, thank you for posting this video, I can only think of one word to describe this bowl “magnificent” even that doesn’t do it justice. Ian
Thank you so much Ian! I really appreciate your comment and thanks for watching.
Gary
One of the coolest segmented bowls I have ever seen.
Thanks so much, Happy you enjoyed it and thanks for watching.
Gary
Really great video, Gary, that bowl is gorgeous!
Thank you Rod, I appreciate you watching.
Hope you have a very Happy New Year.
Gary
I have to agree Rod!!
Well Bullwinkle, you did pull a rabbit out of your hat! Wow that’s a very cool bowl. Thanks again for sharing that Gary.
Cheers, Rick
Thank you Rick(or is that Rocky LOL)
This one was very fun to do. I love doing new things and really love it when it works.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Turned two bowls and amazed at the results. Perfect 12 degree wedges don't seem to be critical. They all smoosch together and adhere. the cables don't work well but rubberbands seem to do the trick. A great product and great video
Thanks Gordon. That is the cool thing about it. The angle does not have to be perfect. Like you said they just slide in place. It is a matter of the side angle changing just a little.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Awesome video!! Thank you for posting it. One question, what are the dimensions for the plug in the middle?
Thanks,
Raymond
Hi Gary...
Beautiful bowl...
I can see why you were so excited about this one..
I thought that it must be special after you mentioned it on the last video...
And you didn't disappoint...
Great video as always...
Take care...All the best.....Andy
Thanks so much Andy. Yes it was really fun and I was looking forward to trying it.
This week will be back to basics while I think on another idea.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Wow Gary, your work is amazing!! You should submit this to AAW magazine, I bet they show it in the magazine. Thank you so much using the lacquer and using our paste in a different manner, we appreciate everything yo do for us!!!
Thank you very much Tom. I find that using the abrasive paste works great for me and much easier than the buffing wheels do for me.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
I'm not sure which is more impressive, the final piece or the ability to figure out how to make it!
Thank you Josh. I think you know how much I enjoy figuring how to do something. Probably why I try to move on to something else. Not to say I will not do this process. But I will use the idea to make something that looks much difference.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
I have already closure that you are a magnificent teacher, Gary. Now I’m quite convinced that you are also a bona fide genius. That is absolutely beautiful, my friend. I’m sure there will be many turners grabbing this idea. This video is a winner in every way, buddy. Thanks for sharing. You really do have remarkable knowledge! 👍👍👍😃😃🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Happy turning,
…..Gord
Wow Gord I do not know what to say for all those kind words other than.............THE CHECKS IN THE MAIL LOL
Seriously I do appreciate everything you said more than I can say.
It is a fun project and plan to expand on it a little.
Take care and Happy turning as well my friend,
Gary
Let my wife see you do this now I have to make one. Brilliant just Brilliant. Thanks
Thank you Pete. Well that is a good thing! You get to turn and she gets a nice gift.
Take care,
Gary
They just keep getting better, Gary! Amazing to me how you figured out the angles of each piece and the cone center, but you did and it came out to perfection! Nice job of turning and a great design to the overall shape. Really well done, my friend!
Phil
Thank you Phil! Well as I said at the beginning this will seem like a magic trick, I remember as a kid learning a simple magic trick and was amazed when it worked. Same thing happened here LOL. I knew it would work but was pretty happy with how well it worked.
I rewarded myself with a simple but pretty bowl today. But I do add a little trick in the process to keep it from being to boring.
Thanks for watching my friend and be well,
Gary
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Very nice. Thanks
What a candy dish! Wouldn't the trick or treaters be impressed with this!
Thank you Tom...maybe filled with some Peppermint Twist!
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Absolutely beautiful. Thank you for going to the effort of recording all your exploits!
Thank you very much Richard and thanks for watching.
Gary
Great to see a video, that's very hands on and very instructive, And where the instructor, doesn't chew one's ear off, with irrelevant chit-chat. Very well presented Pops!!
Thank you very much Michael. I appreciate your comments.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
That is completely amazing!! **Stands up on chair applauding** I have been waiting to see how something like this is done. Ever since I started watching segmented bowl videos, I knew something like this was possible, I just couldn't figure out how. You have not only showed how, you showed how easy it is to get a result like that. I can't wait to try it out myself. The only question I have is what is the angle of the cone you used for the center plug? Seems like that would be a critical dimension. Awesome Gary! You have outdone yourself again. And that is not an easy accomplishment. Thank you very much.
Thank you Mark for your very kind words. For sure it is a very cool process. And yes it is pretty easy.
So the cone...well I have no idea what the angle is and I will tell you why.
When I had the rubber bands around it I opened the top to see if it would do what I wanted. Then I took a piece I use as a jam chuck and poked it into the hole. Gave me a starting point. I then put a piece in the lathe and turned a random cone based on what I saw. Tried it out and then cut the smaller end down even more. Tried and saw I could get the pieces to close up. So it could have been anything and opening the top or the bottom a little and you can make the joints fit.
Kind of like the magic trick I spoke of.
If that does not make a lot of sense you can contact me and I will explain more.
Gary
Well, you were not kidding when you said it was like magic watching this thing come to life. That was amazing! What pleases me the most about this entire project is that you got your idea from an old magazine. I love new technology and the development of all crafts and hobbies and industries, but there's something satisfying about the old being just as good as the new, if not better.
Thank you Jay. It sure felt like magic when all those joints closed up and had the cool twist to them.
I have discovered that this went back even farther to a 1944 Popular Mechanics. So the article in the magazine 70 years newer saying he developed it was not aware it had already been done. But that is the case with many things.
I once thought I designed a tool to remove a bronze bear from the rear of a transmission. Then went to the auto parts store to find out they had one there to rent. But I had no idea and I am sure that happens a lot.
Thanks for watching my friend,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 That is very interesting. There is no new thing under the sun. My dad was a heavy duty mechanic for his career. He has a similar story about a jig they had adapted to switch plow blades from summer duty to snow plows. Normally, it was done on a schedule, in time for the season. An early blizzard made a quick fleet switch necessary. The jig saved a lot of time and was used every season after that. Years later, he encountered a similar jig at a different shop, operating on the same principles. It should have been written into the standard equipment manual.
Absolutely beautiful. Thank you for sharing. I am going to try this.
Thank you Gaynor and have fun making it.
Gary
That is probably the quietest lathe I have ever seen. Very cool project and results.
Thank you! Every now and then I need to blow the dust off the drive belt because it will squeak after awhile.
Wow Gary that is just so gorgeous. I really appreciate how you show every step in how you make your unique segmented pieces such as this one as well as others that you’ve done and how you explain why and how you are doing certain things. This is certainly something that I will have got to try. Magnificent work and great video.
Thank you Scott. I am happy you enjoy my videos and I believe that sharing is something we can do for free and the rewards can be priceless.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Phil, It looks excellent from the UK well done to you sir
Thank you Terry, very happy you liked it and Phil did as well.
Thats fine because a few people have called me Phil and I take it as a compliment😊
Gary from Oregon
Gary, yes you are a master at segmented turning. I love the effects of your experimental bowl. Good job.
Thanks so much Kevin I appreciate your comment. The next one will not be an experiment and I have some ideas to make it look different.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
You make it look so easy , and it looks amazing in the end fantastic workmanship
Thank you Frank I appreciate your comment.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
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Thanks so much Gammy Bear❤💛💙🖤💖
Papa,
You have managed to create a master piece out of an “experiment”! Many thanks for the hours you put in to bring us a few minutes of pleasure and excellence.
Happy New Year and many happy returns thereof 🎆.
Thank you Paul, it is very nice to hear you enjoy my videos and I appreciate it a lot.
Happy New Year,
Gary
I am impressed by your "vision" and tenacity to try new things, venture into new territories as well as giving rebirth to forgotten designs and methods.
Thank you very much Jack. Yes I love trying something new and am always looking for it.
Take care,
Gary
I really love this! You did an amazing job explaining the geometry of how it works. Thank you so much! I always enjoy watching your videos. You really do amazing work!
Thank you very much. Happy you enjoy watching. And thanks for you kind words.
Take care,
Gary
Beautiful Piece and interesting process. Hope you and your family are having a good weekend. Full View and Like 👍
Thank you very much Allen, it has been a great weekend and looking forward to a great week.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
WOW, all I can say is you have created a masterpiece! Your knowledge of turning must be infinite! Extremely well done and thanks!
Cheers Al
Thank you so much Al. I appreciate your comments and thanks for watching.
Gary
ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS !!!! I have just GOT to try this as a present for my wife !! I KNOW she'll LOVE it as much as I do !! Wish me luck !!
Thanks so much Art. That will make a nice present for sure. My wife sure loves it.
So just take your time and do not glue anything together until you know the joints are perfect.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Take care,
Gary
Ya never cease to amaze me, Gary! That is a really neat wood turning. You provide me with so much food for thought on what I would like to do in turning wood.👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you very much. Happy it gave you something to think about and how you have success should you try.
Take care,
Gary
One of my favorite wood turning TH-cam projects!
Fantastic job!
Thank you sir
Thank you very much! I appreciate you watching and commenting and subscribing.
Gary
Stunning! I had to watch this three times to make sure of the math and steps involved in the glue-up procedure. As always, your instructions are clear and precise. I really like the way you show how to create and set up your measuring tools/rigs. Those angles came out so perfect! The finish was pure genius. Looking forward to more of these. Thank you!
Thank you Abe! I will be doing another soon. It will take a new cutting jig and should be interesting. Still thinking on it.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Very interesting project. The illusion makes the wood look curved, not just slanted. Very nice.
Thank you Mark. I need to make more. Fun, take very little material and not all that hard to do.
Take care,
Gary
Absolutely beautiful! I’m just starting my wood turning adventure! I’m definitely going to try this bowl! Thanks!!!
Steve thank you very much and thanks for watching,
Best of luck,
Gary
It is addictive! And so therapeutic!
@@tripped42 very true!
What a fun lovely bowl. It reminds me of the circus for some reason. Good memories.
Thank you Judith, a circus sounds like a lot of fun. Been years since I was at one.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 me too
WOW! This is really a nice-looking piece. I like the wood and color combination. The skew makes it stand out with a very interesting look - especially since the inside and outside seem to have two different patterns even though they both came from the same glue-up. I am also retired and am in the process of building a woodshop and hope to be turning soon.
Thank you very much. On the inside the boards are not as wide plus they show up more on the bottom.
Have fun in the new workshop.
Gary
You are truly a genius man and a professional artist
Thank you. That is very kind of you to say.
Gary
Wow, what a stunning result! I've never tried segmented bowls but this may make me take the bait. :) . So it begs a couple questions. The angle on the center cone is this a certain angle for a reason or would any angle work? Would there be any advantage (or disadvantage) to having you initial blocks cut sideways so you not turning away end grain to hollow the bowl. Too many questions but absolutely love the result of your "experiment".
Thank you Larry and you have a lot of very good questions.
Yes the angle is important to create the look as well as making sure all the joints close up. So I opened the piece by hand looked at how the pieces fit. Taking a guess I turned the cone and used it. It showed me that if I took 2 pieces out the joints would all close up. If it didn't I could adjust the cone till they did. Because the 2 types of wood it was important that they be removed in pairs.
If I would have ran the grain the other way I would have had end grain completely around the outside of the bowl and lost all the beautiful grain. the only way to avoid that would be using some 4 inch thick planks of wood and have all the end grain be the glue joints.
Hope that all makes sense and if not let me know.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 Thanks for the great answers. Was missing what the other result would be so I am glad you explained it to me. Definitely need the wood grain exposed and not end grain on the side of the bowl. Going to have to give this a try. Absolutely love the result. Thanks again for sharing this "experiment". :)
Looks like the experiment was a success. Beautiful!
Thank you Carmen. I do love trying something different now and then.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Another great idea Gary, sometimes I really wonder where you get your inspiration from.
Did you really do the math on that compound angle or was it merely a guesstimated fit?
I've got something new to try. Thnx for sharing! 😎
Thank you Leo. The math was easy if the pieces were radial but knowing they would change as I opened the shape up I had not idea what it would be for sure. When I opened it up 30 pieces no longer fit so I took two out and they fit fine.
So I did the math on the angle using 28 pieces. I do have software that will do compound angles and need to reload it (had to get a new computer)and I will see what it comes up with.
It is cool how they sort of self fit as you change the taper.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
I looked at the other comments and realized I cannot come up with a superlative that hasn't already been mentioned. That said, this was the nicest "experiment" I've ever seen and feel just bold enough to try something like this myself. Thank you for the inspiration!
Thank so much for your comment. For sure try something like this. I have gotten pictures already from someone who has tried it after watching and was very successful. Thanks again for watching and commenting.
Gary
Wow. I actually thought that I would not have had a reply and you replied so quickly and helpfully. Thank you so very much.
Thank you Robert. I read all my comments and if there are questions I am happy to answer them.
Hope to see you around on all my videos,
Gary
Gary you are a magician! What a beautiful piece. I also wish you could have been my trig teacher when I was in high school. I might have passed! lol
Thank you very much Dana. I have always loved math...except for algebra. Which I don't think I ever got! Geometry and trig...that is another story. At work I always wore out the tan. button on my calculators. It was like magic when I found out how easy it was to layout perfect angles.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
your glue ups amaze me you never have the tiniest gaps between any of your piece just great work and its another beautiful piece
Thank you Dallas. I do my best to have the best joints I can get.
I would say the most important thing go do is a dry fit and if it does not look right sometimes swapping the pieces around can help.
Thanks for watching and commenting,
Gary
Hi Garry, thank you for showing us your amazing way of gluing segments together.
You did a great tutorial on how to make this, and I used that info to make a glued segments project. Cheers, Hans
Stay safe and keep turning
Thank you Hans! Happy to hear you had success with this process. I bet it looks great!
Take care,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 thank you Garry, I think it worked out well.
I am still working on the video but I will post it tomorrow.
WOW! Another eye-popper! I just love how the colors just rise and shine when the finish is applied. You make lovely things and I like em. 🥸👍👀❗️
Thank you Joe. Happy you enjoyed the video.
Gary
My dad always said it looks good at 55 mph.i other words it looks good to anyone driving by at 55.lol .that bowl is absolutely beautiful n stunning to look at.very cool project gary.nice work.
Thank you! There was a guy at work that really did not care if what he made looked good or not as long as he got a paycheck. He always said "Looks good from my house" It became a common phrase.
I like that 55 MPH one as well. I might have to use that,
Thanks for watching,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 your welcome to use it.that would be funny.have a great day.
Amazing design and great finishing,👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you very much Gao! I still am not getting your notifications so I will check out why.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
That is a great piece. Thanks for the clear step-by-step to make this! Much appreciated.
Thank you Karl and thanks for watching,
Gary
I have worked with wood all my life. My love affair with wood what makes me appreciate your share videos like this. Learning so much and plan to try it myself. Thanks
Thank you Steve. I have had a love affair with wood since 1960 in a grade school shop class. I went on to be a wood pattern maker and worked with wood everyday. Never got bored of it and after almost 10 years of retirement still have not.
Best of luck when you do give it a try.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
How beautiful is that? You have a natural gift in wood turning. Thank you for sharing.
@@blacknight1003 thank you for your kind words and for watching.
Gary
gary you are creating some furture trouble for me,great bowl,love the finish
Gee Fran I am sorry😁. But I know you will enjoy doing this.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Amazing bowl Gary. What a beautiful pattern this is.
👍Frank.
Thank you very much Frank. Happy you enjoyed it.
Take care,
Gary
Mysterious puzzle solved 😃 Finaly, finaly! I was waiting for this video from a long time. Not so long as You Gary, but here it is. First time I have seen a video how to get that pattern on segmented bowl. Idea is very simple as You said, just a bit of work and a cone. My mind couldn't figure out that without a video. Beautiful work and thank You for sharing with us this knowledge 🤝😀
Take care my friend 👍
Rav
Thanks so much Rav. I think you know how much fun I had making this one! If you do decide to put this on your list I have no doubt you will be successful.
Happy turning my brother from afar..
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 I have this project on my to do list from long time. Now I have Your incredible video. Fun will be prima sort. At first need to make a jig to cut angled boards and this will be a good fun too 😁
If I will have problems with it I will back to You asking for help.
Be safe soulmate 🙏
Rav
Great project, Gary great idea I love the bowl. keep the videos coming. Cheers, Dave
Thank you very much Dave!
Looking forward to your next video.
Gary
Hi Captain Lee I was just watching you on below deck and now here you are doing a woodturning video! x
Good one Gill😀😀
@@ThePapa1947 Oh gosh sorry you just sound so like him! And I should have said... the bowl is absolutely outstanding - the design and that finish - wow! x
@@ThePapa1947 by the way is that just regular wood glue you use to hold them together?
Incredible!!! Thank you again. Usually I think 🤔 “Gary makes the amazing look simple “. Listening to you talk about the math... I realize if I was that smart I’d be dangerous.
Thank you Barry! I got a good chuckle over your last comment. Hopefully this will help others understand with out the math. I remember early on in my apprenticeship how to use trig to my advantage and it sure made my job easier.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Beautiful peice Gary. These type of turnings are really fun to watch. Well done and thanks for posting.
Thank you very much. These type of turnings are fun to do as well.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Gary
Really nice I like how all your wedge joints are tight. A good-looking Bowl. Thanks Tim
Thank you Tim. I am happy with the joints as well.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
That turned fabulous. I'm going to do that soon as the weather warms up a little.
Thank you David and best of luck when it warms up.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
The bowl is gorgeous, and watching you make it was interesting.
Thank you very much Martin I appreciate your comments.
Gary
That's one hell of an experiment. Turned out fantastic!
Thank you very much. I plan on doing another one soon.
Thanks again,
Gary
Brillaint and very clever how you worked out a method from just a picture. If this was an 'experiment' your gallery pieces must be unbelievable! Just kiddin. Experiments often turn out better than we might have expected and even when they don't they lead to ideas for something even better. Well done Gary.
Thank you Ray! I love working from a picture and not watching how it might be done. I had a doctor that was a wood turning and he showed me a photo of a multi axis turning he made so I studied the photo and made it with methods I knew would work. That is where the challenge comes from.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 Hi Gary, your reply got me to think: What/where is the challenge? I've only been turning a few years. At first the challenge was: Can I use these tools to do what i want them to do effectively, safely and well? (I still have some learning to do on that score!) And then it was: Can I make whatever it was - box, bowl, vase, offset, textured, etc etc. (Still lots to learn there!) And then I found what really appealed was doing something I'd not done before, examples 3 cornered bowl, square bowl, offset twig pot and could I do so to gallery standard? (still learning). Now? I quite like the challenge of: What the heck do I do with this? It's almost starting from zero with a lump of wood and transforming it . . . to something very different from what one started with. Sometimes it ends up as smaller piece of firewood but, hey, one has still learned! Other times, well, it's just such a transformation and it tells a story. And people are different, my wife likes plain and simple (i hope that excludes me!), whereas an arty friend likes 'character' in a piece. I guess folks are different and challenges differ for different folks and over time. I appreciate you sharing your challenges and appreciate even more the great job that you do.
Well said Ray. I think we all have those things going on to one degree or the other.
HI gary beautifully made. I think not just u r happy I think all ur viewers r super happy. really beautiful.
Thank you so much Manjit. I am happy that others are happy with it.
Thanks for watching my friend,
Gary
Spectacular bowl Gary and great video. Take care, John
Thank you very much John, happy you enjoyed it.
Take care my friend,
Gary
I really love watching how you went from idea to execution. The end product is a real thing of beauty! Watching the amazing color ṕop'from the wood when you ar finishing it really blew me away. Seriously thinking of looking to find a beginner wood turning class somewhere nearby and have a crack at this myself. Think it could be very relaxing and rewarding :)Thank you for sharing.
Thank you very much for your comments.
It is very relaxing and finding someone who can help you get started is a good idea. This is not your standard segmented turning but not all that hard do do.
There are a few who do classes on segmented turning but just getting started in the basics is a good idea.
Best of luck and thanks for watching,
Gary
I am a lathe Turner,
I enjoyed your video.
I will give this a try!!
Also, maybe in different diameters. Yes, I subscribed to your TH-cam......
Thank you Joseph and let me know how it goes.
Gary
Hi Gary. Wow just like a camera shutter! What a neat effect, well done.
Hi Mark, yes indeed it is like a camera lens. Guess I should have known that I have used and SLR since 1968.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Love it Gary! Love your videos! Gettin all crazy 😜 with the tangents! 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you Bruce. Don't you just love that word? TANGENT
I know I did and used so many times at work.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 yes I do, I’m going to use it all next week at work, hahaha 🤣
Another beauty Gary, amazing design and execution. your explanations are very clear. Thanks again, I really appreciate all the effort you put into your videos. Kevin
Thank you Kevin I appreciate your comments.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Hi Prof, Papa. A Nice technical challenge, with simple well thought out solutions. The end result looks great. I think I will have to dig out my old Magazines and search for some inspiration from the past. God Bless, stay safe. Tony
Thank you Tony! I learned something very interesting. The magazine I saw this in gives credit to the idea to the person in the article. That was 2014. A viewer pointed me to a Popular Mechanics magazine from 1944 of this same idea.
So like I have said many times there are not very many things that have not been done before. And so many of these new ideas came from what we see in nature.
God Bless my friend,
Gary
Another great video Gary! I wish I had all your cutting and gluing jigs LOL.
Thank you Jim, I am running out of room so I may have to get rid of some LOL.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Hat's off to you. 🤩 You said, "it is amazing".
Thanks so much Khan! Happy you like it.
Gary
I am so very impressed! I was inspired by your video on the triple axis turning and I tried that today. I'm relatively new to turning and I'm using a mini lathe made for pens and such. But I was able to follow your instructions and mathematics. It's not perfect but still nice considering. I can't wait to upgrade to a bigger lathe and try a bowl like this one. Great job!!!
Thank you very much. Happy to hear you were able to do the 3 axis turning.
I am sure you will love getting a bigger lathe but have fun on the one you have. You can do the same thing but just a little smaller.
Gary
Gary, I think this bowl is amazing and it would make a great candy dish for my grandchildren (hint hint) keep up the great work, I enjoy watching you work..
Thank you very much Michael. For sure it would make a great candy dish. Maybe for those Peppermint sticks😄
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Wowza! You is the Papa of wood turning.
Thank you very much Roy. I appreciate your comment and thanks for watching.
Gary
what a finish you got there, haven't got a bandsaw could i cut them with a scroll saw, beautiful that is.
Thank you Gary, I suppose with a very good blade and a slow cut you might be able to. It might take a bit of sanding. If so I would use a sheet of sandpaper on a flat board and hold the piece against it and sand it by hand.
You could give it a try and see if it is worth it.
Best of luck,
Gary
Candy bowl for a member of Round Table club. Super "experiment" Gary . Choice of woods makes it.
Have you ever seen the router bit they use for making hollow masts and booms. They interlock and eventually make a circle or oval if you insert a straight section. I bought one and used it to make the top of a "Hope Chest" for my grandson's 21st birthday. Looks like a pirates trunk. All done in walnut with custom made brass banding, corners, hinges and latch. The bit came from Lee Valley tools here in Canada. I'm sure with alternating woods a fine bowl or vase could be turned.
Thanks for posting.
Thank you Ron. I looked up what I think you are talking about. Does it make a birds mouth joint?
Your chest reminds of of toy box I made our kids years ago. I staved it up and it is sort of half chest half barrel. It is still around as well as the circus style toy box I made them
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Gary
Fantastic technique and it didnt look too hard. Had to try for my self and got pretty satisfyed. Many parts to fit. Next time I Will use a slower glue🙃
Thank you and it is fairly easy.
I used Titebond lll. I also try not to use much clamping pressure till all the pieces are in place.
Thanks for watching.
Gary
Yes, it is looking pretty nice for an experiment. Well done!
Thank you very much Joe and thanks for watching,
Gary
What a creative and clever piece. I will be trying this with some scraps tonight
Thanks so much and scraps are a wonderful thing to try something new with.
Best of luck.
Gary
Truly inspirational, but won’t attempt it for quite a while. I’ll refer back to this in a couple years and during warmer weather.
Thanks so much and for sure warmer weather is a good thing.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Really cool bowl... can’t wait to others in the future.
Julian thank you very much and thanks for watching,
Gary
That is genius Gary, lovely bowl and a really interesting video, thanks.
Thank you Tom, happy you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching.
Gary
wow that is so beautiful. You must be an engineer to come up with these wonderful calculations. I am amazed. diana
Thank you Diana. Well I used a lot of geometry in my job as a wood pattern maker. And had to design in 3D what the engineers came up with. So that does help.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
you always out do the last,what talent
Thank you very much Donald for your kind words.
Take care,
Gary
Well that experiment went well! Another beauty Gary!👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you Mike I really had fun making it.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
It's so beautiful piece & finishing is awesome take care my friend.
Thank you Sagar, very happy you liked it.
Take care buddy,
Gary
I enjoy all of your video's they are full of insperation. Keep up the great work
Thank you Neil! I will try my best.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Wow, Gary, this bowl is just the stark-naked miracle, as we would say in Swiss German!!! Breathtakingly beautiful, really really creative, Gary's segmented bowl master-class, supreme level! Not bad at all for an experiment, yes sir! Absolutely love it... I will call this Gary's Aladdin Bowl... Be sure to have a good wish ready, just in case you rub on it and let the genie out of the bowl... Can't wait to see more of your segmented work, Gary, thank you for sharing!
PS: I have the same veggie steamer thingy, and it is super practical, I use it all the time... You are right, same principle, still I think your bowl is a lot cooler!
Thanks so much for your wonderful comments I enjoyed them all. Stark- Naked Miracle is a new one. As I was rubbing on it I did see something coming out...but that was the dust from the sand paper LOL.
Yeah as soon as I put that cone in the opening I knew it reminded me of something then I figured it out. We have 2 of those steamer thingies and they get used a lot.
Thanks for watching and all your comments.
Gary
Gary, thank you for the time you invested in producing not just the bowl, but the video, A+ on the pace of the video, your instructions, and the views we got to see. I recently picked up a used Jet lathe as a “pandemic hobby.” I haven’t turned since high school wood shop, and I remember it as a highlight of HS, and have been playing with some simple bowl projects. Your video inspires me to push my skill set and consider more difficult projects. Last, it sounds like you enjoyed (had fun) with the project which is awesome. Your are the Yoda of turning!
Thank you so much Dave! Very happy you enjoy my videos and appreciate you commenting.
Also happy you decided to get yourself lathe. You will really enjoy it.
I have loved the wood lathe since a grade school shop class in 1961
Thanks again and have fun!
Oh, your name says In Sandy? Is that where you live? We have a Sandy Oregon here where I live. Just wondering.
Gary
@@ThePapa1947 What? You are in the Oregon area? Yes I am in Sandy Oregon! We live about six miles east of Sandy toward the mountain.
@@daveinsandy After asking you I looked at you channel and saw David Douglas High School so I knew it had to be Sandy Oregon.
Yes I live in Garden Home Oregon. It is sandwiched between Portland, Tigard and Beaverton.
I was born in Vanport and we left there when our house floated down the Columbia in the big flood.
Hi Gary,
Superb piece, I really like the design and the shape of the bowl, also the choice of wood species gives us a nice contrast 👍👍
and congratulations for the 👏👏take care finish
Morgan
Hi Morgan,
Thank you for your comments. Happy you enjoyed it.
Take care my friend,
Gary
Super results Gary...! You are Blessed with talent..
Thank you very much. All that we have is a blessing.
Thanks for watching.
Gary
Gary great work, and thanks for showing the jigs that you made to be able to make this.
Thank you Byron, I will need to make a new jig for the next one of these I do. It will not be cut the same way.
Thanks for watching.
Gary
Wonderful turning Gary.
Thank you very much Jack and thanks for watching,
Gary
Being a beginner wood turner for a couple months now, I must say simply beautiful! It's on my list of something to try. Thanks a bunch!
Thank you very much Jeffery and welcome to the world of wood turning.
Here is one you might want to try before this one here.
th-cam.com/video/YYUa9w59BzY/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ThePapa1947
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Thanks, it really looked like you had a good time turning your bowl.
Thank you very much Richard and I did have a great time making this.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
Great job ! Thanks for sharing the technique and showing the band saw jig.
Thank you Mark and I will have more in the works.
Thanks for watching,
Gary
It is amazing, Agree with Phil and many other followers of yours. You made it beautiful, delivered elegant and simple way. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you very much. I appreciate your comment. I like to break things down to the simplest way I can. And then do each step without getting to far ahead but still thinking about it.
I am working on something else that I have to prove out if it will and how it does. I found out that it will and had to get the pencil and paper out to figure out why it works the way it does. It will be coming soon.
Thanks for watching,
Gary