We had a deposit on a new Telluride X-Pro to replace our Highlander. Unfortunately, Kia does not offer a factory receiver hitch and wiring harness even though they advertise the 5,500 lb towing capacity. The dealer also had no idea of when one would be offered. We tow a small camper so that was a major disappointment and we pulled our deposit.
We pull cargo trailer and been going to burning man and no issues what so ever. Ride comfort is better way than full size trucks, full van. You name it. If you can’t find 3rd party to install aftermarket, then it’s your problem not able to find it. Highlander? Nice just like Corolla station wagon but Highlander is more like wallpaper. Blend in nice and unnoticeable and boring and…boring
5th gen 4Runner owner here, for literally any activity other than off-roading, I would take this over my 4Runner any day. And if "off-roading" was just dirt roads, probably rather have this for that too.
@@robertyoung8289 It beats the 33 year old Depressing Grey or Death Black interior colors that became popular in 1990. It’s a proven fact that when there’s civil unrest, wars and rumors of wars, shaky economy, people run to dark, drab, depressing, boring colors. But when the future looks bright, there’s civil rest, stable economies, peaceful outlook, people desire cheerful, bright openness in choosing the colors of their automobiles, the interior of them look classy, bright, open. Over 1/2 the houses in America are Gloomy Grey with white trim. Interior Motif colors are grey, black, drab, dark colors. Most of the automobiles are silver, grey, charcoal grey, black, dark burgundy, dark blues, greens, etc. We finished building our dream home in 19. We chose to paint it a nice shade of Yellow with white trim. Our motif colors are tan, with splashes of burgundy, light greens. Cheerful colors because we tend to see the glass 1/2 full instead of 1/2 empty. We bought 1/4 of a Mountain in north central WA state and built our home 1/2 way up our Mountain. Our friends bought the other 1/4 of the mountain and behind our properties is National Forest. A neighbor who lives on the Canyon floor complained to me that our house is too cheerful. They are both alcoholics, their house is gloomy grey with dark grey, black interior motifs. There vehicles are black with black interior and the other one is charcoal grey with black interior. His company van is black with charcoal gray interior. They never have a kind word to say about anything. She owns 2 bars and has a mouth on her that would make a Trucker blush. The other 3 alcoholic neighbors have Gloomy Grey houses with White trim. Their vehicles are also death black or Gloomy Grey. Over 1/2 my life Depressing Grey or Death Black interior colors have been shoved down everyone’s throats. So I’m sorry you’re depressed and have a crappy outlook on life , but that’s your problem, and Thankfully not ours. And if you haven’t figured it out by now, I’m a retired Psychologist. Enjoy your day…, if you can 🤣
So 500 for skid plate, 350 for 2inch lift, 1100 for 18inch method wheels, and 800 for Firestone AT2 tires, and maybe 300 for labor to install these things... guess I'm just gonna stick to that with my 2021 Telluride.
I’d like to hear what other crossover vehicles make it through the course besides Subarus, like Bronco Sport Badlands, Maverick trims, GM vehicles, Toyota, Honda etc..
This is a fairly new course and we haven’t run a lot of vehicles through it yet. I did attempt the Cadillac XT5: th-cam.com/video/SuICyVQgA0s/w-d-xo.html
Old school here I guess……a lot ohhhs and ahhhs interior wise, since we’ve grown accustomed to the apple toys. Computer graphics, 360 view, tracking vehicles in front back, etc etc but for me how reliable is the vehicle? Can it adequately tackle some off road or horrible road conditions in winter? Will it las beyond 80,000 miles? I’m not so sure with this Kia…. Toyota and Subaru seem to check more boxes on and off the grid
I have a 21 sx telluride.. great car for long trips and hauling the kids around.. but it is not for off road by any means.. get a 4 runner or bronco if u want off road..
The new honda pilot trailsport seemed to have a much better awd system. Do you think it would have any issues on this coarse? Can you compare the crawl ratio with the honda pilot trailsport and this telluride?
@@moloono1 The Tundra is seen by many as second rate compared to.the big 3. I think the gen 2 Tundra is a killer truck. I love towing our RV with it. It is a beast. Thanks for the comment.
@@mikefoehr235 I had a 2008 Tundra, engine/transmission was fine, the repeated rear axle bearing and front diff bearing failures were huge negatives for me for what Toyota pretends to be a "heavy" half ton truck, it couldn't even handle light duty stuff that I occasionally needed it to do. I can't remember what year it was but I think 2012 was the year they changed bearing manufacturers and all those bearing problems were corrected, but like Toyota always is, they're way too slow at fixing anything, they had TSBs out for all the problems related to the front diff howl/growl issues (requires replacing the front diff), and rear axle bearing howling which requires pulling the axle shafts and replacing the bearings. Too bad they went to the turbo undersized engine crap, otherwise another Tundra would have been in my driveway in the near future....The only thing I noticed when towing with my 08 is it seemed to excessively hunt between gears, I just got to where I'd manually drop it to 4th and leave it there when I was towing on anything but flat ground...towed great, plenty of power....they had a TRD supercharger option for a while, but dang I'm not sure why you'd need it LOL. I wish Toyota would have left the 5.7L V8 as an option, instead of discontinuing it altogether...stupid move on their part, at least Ford still lets you get the F150 with the 5L V8. Maybe in a year or so Toyota will wake up and give us the V8 back.
The Telluride could have easily made it over that rock on the last course. In my humble opinion, I do not believe you exhausted all options. Perhaps you did not want to cause any damage? In any case, great video! Thanks for your review.
From what I saw, I have to agree. I saw no attempts of backing up and giving a tiny bump, nor any attempts to really turn the wheels(which may defeat the purpose of the test, but in a real world scenario I wouldn't just stay in the same position that clearly I'm not moving in with my current methods).
If it had a capable AWD system it should’ve been able to send power to the rear wheel that had traction. For the price they’re charging for this vehicle, Kia should implement an actual torque vectoring rear different instead of the cheap braking method they’re using.
@@Fadic4 I respectfully disagree. The rear tires were clearly spinning and looking for traction-it was visible on the video. The issue is the Telluride was out of kilter. You cannot expect a single wheel to grab the terrain and propel a 5,000 pound vehicle; that’s unrealistic. The issue had nothing to do with Kia’s AWD system.
@@WhoWeAre1311 Not sure where you saw the tire with the most load on it, spinning. The tire that was lifted which has the least traction was getting the majority of the power. You can clearly see at 22:17 the tire that has most load/traction is not even getting enough power, but with a torque vectoring rear differential, that tire would’ve gotten more power.
@Fadic4 to be fair, subaru uses the same method of torque vectoring, the use of braking the wheel with least traction is a very common torque vectoring solution these days. The difference becomes the center diff styles and gearing/power. And as I said, during that test a simple bump would have made it over that rock, the tires on the ground even spun a few times so the torque vectoring was working, the vehicle didn't have the traction and gearing to pull over the obstacle.
Latest land rover defender is also unibody with independent suspension, yet its off road performance is amazing, off roading is simply not in the goal/objective of Huawei/KIA, so they should stop embarrassing themselves with monikors like trail ready or xpro...etc..
Why don’t people realize that the commercials for these vehicles are huge over exaggerations of their capabilities….stop being a victim of marketing. 😂
interesting that in the Subaru you turned the steering wheel left and right, but in the Kia you left the steering wheel straight. You know that when you turn left the system sends more power to the right wheels. You didn't use all the possibilities at Kia, but probably at Subaru. Beautiful video
There were concerns about scratching the wheels on the Kia. For the Subaru we didn't care. (The Subaru was leaving the fleet and we had clearance to scratch.) That technique can cause serious scratching when applied on rocky inclines.
I thought about this. But because not all possibilities are used, the car may receive a lower mark because of this, and in other cars where you use all possibilities, it will be seen much better. I have seen many such videos. I know that all this does not depend on you, but I think that these comparisons should be rethought a bit.
I saw something interesting on: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Telluride maybe it helps The Telluride has four driving modes - Smart, Eco, Sport and Comfort. Snow and AWD Lock modes are also available for specific driving conditions, and the on-demand electro-hydraulic AWD system with multi-plate clutch disc constantly redistributes power to both axles. In Eco and Smart modes, power is directed entirely to the front wheels, while Sport mode splits power 65% front, 35% rear.
@@cristiplatica we’ve had discussions with the engineers that designed the system in Hyundai and Kia vehicles. That is not an accurate description of how it works.
Solid review, you make a great point that if a manufacturer offers an offroad package, it should be more than just tires. I like the reduced gear ratios subaru puts on the Wilderness lineup and the 24 Trailsport Passport does seem to check those boxes too. The KIA/HY offerings are looking for market capitalization on an unsuspecting consumer and that's where your reviews shine.
Sorry but you cant have the name PRO on your badge unless you have propper skid plates ....and a off road mode for more aggresive awd shifting power left to right
X pro is biggest waste of money, if someone wants that off road performance from a crossover then new pilot is 100x better. Telluride really shines in SX prestige trim.
Love the video ! They didn’t give it an off-road mode because they know no one in their right mind will take a Telluride off the beaten path. Thing is a joke off-road!
Agree. While I appreciate the video and effort it goes into this test, this is essentially a minivan for people that are embarrassed to say they own a minivan.
@@MaGiKRat420 Why would anyone buy the X-Pro if they were truly after off-road capability? They just want to show off their X-Pro badge to be “better” than all the other Tellurides. But I definitely agree with you, who’s out there showing off in a Kia, LMFAO!
@@gs98999 Exactly. My wife wanted to get a minivan and I refused. We compromised on this. Waiting for the order to come through. It seems like it will be fine on light trails. We ordered the skid plate add-on just in case. This is just for some casual adventuring on road trips, while 95% of its use will be around town and on the highway, like most SUVs.
I have the latest forester in sport trim. I looked first at a wilderness trim as well as an outback but after driving them both I like the shorter length of the forester for navigating tight trails and decided to ditch the wilderness trim on the forester and simply get some knobby tires for the sport trim. I really like how it's working out. Capable yet not very costly to own and run. A great balance. If you do not need the extra space of the outback or the power of the turbo four, get the forester. It's a little mountain goat light on its feet and surprisingly entertaining to drive with momentum through narrow twisty roads. Nearly no body roll
@@steveryder6733 Forester definitely then to avoid the turbo nonsense....thank you for the insight. I don't really go offroad, just up to camping spots which are on gravel backroads, although the camping spots are usually just dirt...but most of those trips are during the late spring, summer, and early fall before the roads get too messy...but more so I'll use it as a daily driver with the normal winter snow storms. I don't need much room, its just me if they still made a Subaru Justy it would work just fine too LOL.
@William Sevier it's perfect for all that and more if you need it to be. Won't let you down. The 2.5 liter engine will last for the long haul as well. Took me many years and many cars to learn there is no replacement for displacement. The driving position as well was something I enjoyed. Great visibility. Always a blast having a good camping adventure with some funny stories to tell afterwards.
@@steveryder6733 Thanks. I'm right there with you on the no replacement for displacement, those tiny little turbo engines in what are supposed to be work trucks don't last when you actually request that they give you the work truck power needs all the time...they might be fine for the weekend warrior crowds who take their camp trailer out a few times a year, but for those of us who use our vehicles to haul/tow and keep them for longer than the warranty period, the larger engine is definitely the best way to go, you lose a bit of economy overall, but you gain that loss back in longevity and less failure points. My aunt works at a dealership, she gets to see all those tiny little engine vehicles coming in all the time on wreckers with catastrophic failures, not only due to the lack of engine, but due to people skipping regular maintenance, and it costs them dearly in the end. Those little turbo 4 and 6 cylinder engines don't take kindly to skipped oil/filter changes.
Honestly I would LURVE to know what percentage of people don't have legs and torso proportionate that are also discriminated against by the cars they buy
Its a nice vehicle for sure. What i dont understand is people not just getting a damn 4x4 if your plan is to go offroad. AWD cant hold a candle to a proper 4 wheeler.
Lets take the Honda Pilot Trailsport and show Telluride X-Pro how its done? Maybe? Or Subaru Ascent "Wilderness" with X-mode2 if Subaru builds it? Maybe for model year 2024? It would definitely be a good battle between Honda and Subaru as Honda has real torque vectoring awd with clutch pack in the rear vs Subaru completely rely on the ABS system.
A Subaru Ascent Wilderness would really be a good future option for their lineup for sure. Wish they'd build something like the Brat with an old school 4WD/low range setup, I'd buy one instead of buying a UTV.
@@wildbill23c Subaru having 4WD/low range in the past I guess the marketing dept said lets go behind mpg wars and just give CVT with a clutch based AWD (since CVT cannot handle a low range) 😥Since nowadays there are fuel efficient 9 speed / 10 speed automatics I really hope atleast they look at automatic transmissions just like Nissan did and skip the Crappy Vague Transmissions.
@@LionRunner Subaru was using CVTs clear back in the 80's, the "Automatic" option in the Subaru Justy was a CVT. Nothing new, other manufacturers toyed with them for a while too and gave up....although there are some of the hybrids that use some form of a CVT...except Toyota's Hybrid system I believe.
Again, Kia's off-road capabilities are pretty weak. Their vehicles abilities to transfer power appropriately need a ton of work. I've got a 2021 Sorento x-line on 32in all terrains, and it does well until it doesn't lol. Get a Subaru or Toyota if you off-road.
I went on a adventure a bit more challenging with my ford explorer and there was one obstacle a little more difficult then where the telluride got stuck but the explorer managed it’s way through much better then the telluride
How old is your Explorer? The new ones from what I can tell went back to a more rear wheel drive based AWD system, so probably a better setup...my Explorer is much older, so I still have auto, high lock, and low range 4WD and the 4.6L V8...even at that they're still more of a street car than anything you'd really take offroad.
Nice review. Somehow they made the facelifted Telluride look older than the first release Telluride. Maybe it's the removal of the distinct orange driving lights or maybe the look is just aging but at 8:39 it already looks like an old design. Seems to be dog$hit off-road too. That's a pass for me.
If it supposedly to resemble any "adventurous" trim, the front attack angle should be more aggressive. As it is now 0.4 inch ground clearance is a joke.
I hope Kia watches this video and uses it to improve the next model. Add skid plates, a real locker and a selectable low range or mode that can replicate it. Hopefully the new Chevy Traverse will be more offroad capable than this. Disappointing.
What really shocked me was the fact the wheels in the vehicle for this trial are pretty good wheels and still it failed the last obstacle! I owns a Subaru Ascent (my wife) and a Crosstrek Sport. I know for sure that my Crosstrek with those wheels will eat all the obstacles. Not so sure about the Ascent. Beside it’s my wife car and if I scratch it, I am doomed!
I'm not so sure any small wheel awd car would do it when you stop on front of bolder by each diagonal wheel like that and try to start rolling uphill over them... I would like to see if Crosstrek would do exactly same, maybe it was clutch limitation on this specific vehicle although it did good on 3 wheel slip test
@@tallll70 there is one. Check it in his TH-cam channel. You will be surprise how good is the Subaru Crosstrek Sport, and now there will be a new and even more capable Crosstrek Wilderness for 2024. What is even more important than anything else on these vehicles is the high clearance. The Subaru Crosstrek ground clearance is 8.7 inches. Even higher than this Telluride vehicle. The new one will have 9.4 inches clearance.
“Oh look, there is climate control. It’s up there. I guess that means short kids can’t reach it” Haha, that was fun. I personally appreciate the fact that a smaller child wouldn’t be able to reach it. Less things for them to just mess around with
Exactly. Kia’s historically have one of the highest depreciation in the industry. This bubble can’t be sustained forever. When the bubble bursts pennies on the dollar is certainly going to be accurate.
Fk KIA , mine just got the engine seized 3 months after the warranty expired, aperently there is a recall but mine is not aligible even though the same thing happened to the aligable for recall cars.. The car is 2013 kia sportage.. Buy buy kia.. I used to love it.. now never again.. will be getting a 4runner..
Wondering which 3 row suv you would give the best off road rating of these four: telluride xpro, pathfinder rock creek and pilot trail sport, explorer timberline.
Not a fair offroad review. You keep the wheels straight with the telluride and does not move and with the subaru you turn them a few times until it grips the rock and climbs out.
Not many buyers will be disappointed with the off-road capabilities of the X-Pro in the Olive Garden parking lot.
BEST comment. Hysterical! 🏆😂🥇
Exactly
My X-pro is Olive Garden color to 😅
@@gmoto2380 Oof…sorry to hear you paid extra for the X-Pro 💀
Dam
We had a deposit on a new Telluride X-Pro to replace our Highlander. Unfortunately, Kia does not offer a factory receiver hitch and wiring harness even though they advertise the 5,500 lb towing capacity. The dealer also had no idea of when one would be offered. We tow a small camper so that was a major disappointment and we pulled our deposit.
Maybe due to the trailer harness fire hazard recall affecting up to 2022 Tellurides? Maybe they stopped selling them at all pending a redesign.
These are easy to find in the aftermarket. That way you get more options also.
Don't waste your money on xpro package. Get SX prestige instead.
We pull cargo trailer and been going to burning man and no issues what so ever. Ride comfort is better way than full size trucks, full van. You name it.
If you can’t find 3rd party to install aftermarket, then it’s your problem not able to find it. Highlander? Nice just like Corolla station wagon but Highlander is more like wallpaper. Blend in nice and unnoticeable and boring and…boring
Buy a subaru
5th gen 4Runner owner here, for literally any activity other than off-roading, I would take this over my 4Runner any day. And if "off-roading" was just dirt roads, probably rather have this for that too.
You say that, but I've driven on a lot of off-road/forest service roads and never once seen a Kia.
There is no way anyone would trade their 4Runner for a KIA...
You so correct! I was thinking the same thing during the video 😂😂😂
@M azen he owns a 4 Runner. He has talked about how good it is many times. Watch the show.
I LOVE that Brown interior.
It looks like the same color as is in my Forester Touring
If you crap your pants it will not show. 🤔
@@robertyoung8289 It beats the 33 year old Depressing Grey or Death Black interior colors that became popular in 1990.
It’s a proven fact that when there’s civil unrest, wars and rumors of wars, shaky economy, people run to dark, drab, depressing, boring colors.
But when the future looks bright, there’s civil rest, stable economies, peaceful outlook, people desire cheerful, bright openness in choosing the colors of their automobiles, the interior of them look classy, bright, open.
Over 1/2 the houses in America are Gloomy Grey with white trim. Interior Motif colors are grey, black, drab, dark colors.
Most of the automobiles are silver, grey, charcoal grey, black, dark burgundy, dark blues, greens, etc.
We finished building our dream home in 19. We chose to paint it a nice shade of Yellow with white trim.
Our motif colors are tan, with splashes of burgundy, light greens.
Cheerful colors because we tend to see the glass 1/2 full instead of 1/2 empty.
We bought 1/4 of a Mountain in north central WA state and built our home 1/2 way up our Mountain.
Our friends bought the other 1/4 of the mountain and behind our properties is National Forest.
A neighbor who lives on the Canyon floor complained to me that our house is too cheerful.
They are both alcoholics, their house is gloomy grey with dark grey, black interior motifs.
There vehicles are black with black interior and the other one is charcoal grey with black interior. His company van is black with charcoal gray interior. They never have a kind word to say about anything. She owns 2 bars and has a mouth on her that would make a Trucker blush.
The other 3 alcoholic neighbors have Gloomy Grey houses with White trim. Their vehicles are also death black or Gloomy Grey.
Over 1/2 my life Depressing Grey or Death Black interior colors have been shoved down everyone’s throats.
So I’m sorry you’re depressed and have a crappy outlook on life , but that’s your problem, and Thankfully not ours.
And if you haven’t figured it out by now, I’m a retired Psychologist.
Enjoy your day…, if you can 🤣
I love it in my tundra 1794 edition.. peanut butter trim 😂
So 500 for skid plate, 350 for 2inch lift, 1100 for 18inch method wheels, and 800 for Firestone AT2 tires, and maybe 300 for labor to install these things... guess I'm just gonna stick to that with my 2021 Telluride.
First!! Any thoughts on the 24 seltos please?
I’d like to hear what other crossover vehicles make it through the course besides Subarus, like Bronco Sport Badlands, Maverick trims, GM vehicles, Toyota, Honda etc..
This is a fairly new course and we haven’t run a lot of vehicles through it yet. I did attempt the Cadillac XT5: th-cam.com/video/SuICyVQgA0s/w-d-xo.html
After watching this, I would just skip the X-pro and just go with the X-line until Kia can deliver a proper off-road-worthy SUV.
i like the way the music comes on when your stuck lol
Kia does it again! 5k towing without a hitch even!
Old school here I guess……a lot ohhhs and ahhhs interior wise, since we’ve grown accustomed to the apple toys. Computer graphics, 360 view, tracking vehicles in front back, etc etc but for me how reliable is the vehicle? Can it adequately tackle some off road or horrible road conditions in winter? Will it las beyond 80,000 miles? I’m not so sure with this Kia…. Toyota and Subaru seem to check more boxes on and off the grid
I have a 21 sx telluride.. great car for long trips and hauling the kids around.. but it is not for off road by any means.. get a 4 runner or bronco if u want off road..
The new honda pilot trailsport seemed to have a much better awd system. Do you think it would have any issues on this coarse? Can you compare the crawl ratio with the honda pilot trailsport and this telluride?
keep killing it man.
Love the 'Chicken Coop get off my Road' test.
Pretty sure this is the Prestige X-Pro line based on the terracotta leather interior trim, no?
Chicken at 2:50 was legs-torso proportionate
2023 Honda CRV Hybrid review?
I’ll be sticking to our GX460. Peace of mind, V8, real off-road chops.
Keep my Tundra TRD OR...love the 5.7 v8.
@@mikefoehr235 🤘 I respect the hell out of Tundras. That legendary 5.7 is amazing. Enjoy many, trouble-free miles in that thing!
@@moloono1 The Tundra is seen by many as second rate compared to.the big 3. I think the gen 2 Tundra is a killer truck. I love towing our RV with it. It is a beast. Thanks for the comment.
@@mikefoehr235 I had a 2008 Tundra, engine/transmission was fine, the repeated rear axle bearing and front diff bearing failures were huge negatives for me for what Toyota pretends to be a "heavy" half ton truck, it couldn't even handle light duty stuff that I occasionally needed it to do. I can't remember what year it was but I think 2012 was the year they changed bearing manufacturers and all those bearing problems were corrected, but like Toyota always is, they're way too slow at fixing anything, they had TSBs out for all the problems related to the front diff howl/growl issues (requires replacing the front diff), and rear axle bearing howling which requires pulling the axle shafts and replacing the bearings. Too bad they went to the turbo undersized engine crap, otherwise another Tundra would have been in my driveway in the near future....The only thing I noticed when towing with my 08 is it seemed to excessively hunt between gears, I just got to where I'd manually drop it to 4th and leave it there when I was towing on anything but flat ground...towed great, plenty of power....they had a TRD supercharger option for a while, but dang I'm not sure why you'd need it LOL.
I wish Toyota would have left the 5.7L V8 as an option, instead of discontinuing it altogether...stupid move on their part, at least Ford still lets you get the F150 with the 5L V8. Maybe in a year or so Toyota will wake up and give us the V8 back.
@@wildbill23c Blame it on government mandates and stricter emissions rules. We got to live in the hay day of gasoline engines.
It needs a rear diff locker. What's that beeping sound it keeps making?
I'm starting to think that all kia vehicles suck off-road
The Telluride could have easily made it over that rock on the last course. In my humble opinion, I do not believe you exhausted all options. Perhaps you did not want to cause any damage? In any case, great video! Thanks for your review.
From what I saw, I have to agree. I saw no attempts of backing up and giving a tiny bump, nor any attempts to really turn the wheels(which may defeat the purpose of the test, but in a real world scenario I wouldn't just stay in the same position that clearly I'm not moving in with my current methods).
If it had a capable AWD system it should’ve been able to send power to the rear wheel that had traction.
For the price they’re charging for this vehicle, Kia should implement an actual torque vectoring rear different instead of the cheap braking method they’re using.
@@Fadic4 I respectfully disagree. The rear tires were clearly spinning and looking for traction-it was visible on the video. The issue is the Telluride was out of kilter. You cannot expect a single wheel to grab the terrain and propel a 5,000 pound vehicle; that’s unrealistic. The issue had nothing to do with Kia’s AWD system.
@@WhoWeAre1311 Not sure where you saw the tire with the most load on it, spinning. The tire that was lifted which has the least traction was getting the majority of the power.
You can clearly see at 22:17 the tire that has most load/traction is not even getting enough power, but with a torque vectoring rear differential, that tire would’ve gotten more power.
@Fadic4 to be fair, subaru uses the same method of torque vectoring, the use of braking the wheel with least traction is a very common torque vectoring solution these days. The difference becomes the center diff styles and gearing/power. And as I said, during that test a simple bump would have made it over that rock, the tires on the ground even spun a few times so the torque vectoring was working, the vehicle didn't have the traction and gearing to pull over the obstacle.
Latest land rover defender is also unibody with independent suspension, yet its off road performance is amazing, off roading is simply not in the goal/objective of Huawei/KIA, so they should stop embarrassing themselves with monikors like trail ready or xpro...etc..
Lack of low range, the brake lock differentials can't transfer enough torque to the wheels with traction
Why no mention regarding android compatibility? There are more android phones sold then apple ones.
I can’t imagine buying a Kia or Hyundai with all the issues they’ve been having lately.
Well...at least it looks kinda nice.
Must do test with the rock creek
So far Nissan has not allowed us to test one.
Why don’t people realize that the commercials for these vehicles are huge over exaggerations of their capabilities….stop being a victim of marketing. 😂
Strange that an Outback Wilderness with a cvt do better then this 8 speed torq converter...🤣
interesting that in the Subaru you turned the steering wheel left and right, but in the Kia you left the steering wheel straight. You know that when you turn left the system sends more power to the right wheels. You didn't use all the possibilities at Kia, but probably at Subaru. Beautiful video
There were concerns about scratching the wheels on the Kia. For the Subaru we didn't care. (The Subaru was leaving the fleet and we had clearance to scratch.) That technique can cause serious scratching when applied on rocky inclines.
I thought about this. But because not all possibilities are used, the car may receive a lower mark because of this, and in other cars where you use all possibilities, it will be seen much better. I have seen many such videos. I know that all this does not depend on you, but I think that these comparisons should be rethought a bit.
I saw something interesting on: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Telluride
maybe it helps
The Telluride has four driving modes - Smart, Eco, Sport and Comfort. Snow and AWD Lock modes are also available for specific driving conditions, and the on-demand electro-hydraulic AWD system with multi-plate clutch disc constantly redistributes power to both axles. In Eco and Smart modes, power is directed entirely to the front wheels, while Sport mode splits power 65% front, 35% rear.
@@cristiplatica we’ve had discussions with the engineers that designed the system in Hyundai and Kia vehicles. That is not an accurate description of how it works.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Because it knew the KIA couldn't stop it from reaching the other side!
Rumor has it this is the best off-road vehicle never.
Also, thou shall not compare this vehicle to the almighty land cruiser.
Amen.
Why not put it in normal
looks nasty!! or zesty??
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$55k for a KIA???? 4runner and GX460 all the way amongst that price range.
Trade a 4 runner for that? Lol
It's way nicer than a 4Runner for daily driving.
So, you are not a fan!
"Killed In Action" KIA. Who names a car Killed in Action?
It certainly was in this video lol
Poor Kia/Hyundai really don't like.. well much at all except pavement. Lol I do love watching how horrible they are though. X enthusiasts.. lol!!
Meh...
I'm impressed with the rugged capabilities of the Telluride X-Pro, it's a force to be reckoned with.
Said no one ever.
Solid review, you make a great point that if a manufacturer offers an offroad package, it should be more than just tires. I like the reduced gear ratios subaru puts on the Wilderness lineup and the 24 Trailsport Passport does seem to check those boxes too. The KIA/HY offerings are looking for market capitalization on an unsuspecting consumer and that's where your reviews shine.
Some people don’t care at all. They just want the look and that’s it.
@@willr1796 weird, sounds like you had a bad engine or maintenance was lacking, good luck with your trucks!
Sorry but you cant have the name PRO on your badge unless you have propper skid plates ....and a off road mode for more aggresive awd shifting power left to right
Finally have the xpro review!! Love it! How about an xpro vs pilot trailsport comparison!
Thanks
Yes this!!
Yes please
X pro is biggest waste of money, if someone wants that off road performance from a crossover then new pilot is 100x better. Telluride really shines in SX prestige trim.
They can give it whatever name they want. X Pro X amateur. Names don't mean anything. Not one thing.
Love the video ! They didn’t give it an off-road mode because they know no one in their right mind will take a Telluride off the beaten path. Thing is a joke off-road!
Agree. While I appreciate the video and effort it goes into this test, this is essentially a minivan for people that are embarrassed to say they own a minivan.
100% agree. People who buy this are just posers looking for a badge.
@moloono1 I'd believe that out of an audi or bmw... but a kia? A badge? That's a little off of an assessment if you ask me.
@@MaGiKRat420 Why would anyone buy the X-Pro if they were truly after off-road capability? They just want to show off their X-Pro badge to be “better” than all the other Tellurides. But I definitely agree with you, who’s out there showing off in a Kia, LMFAO!
@@gs98999 Exactly. My wife wanted to get a minivan and I refused. We compromised on this. Waiting for the order to come through. It seems like it will be fine on light trails. We ordered the skid plate add-on just in case. This is just for some casual adventuring on road trips, while 95% of its use will be around town and on the highway, like most SUVs.
Hoping you’re going to test the 2023 Ascent on this course! Love to see how many of the crossovers do.
Especially since the 2023 now has dual mode X-Mode. The Ascent is truly the only Subaru I’d consider. I need 3 rows.
I second to that.
The more I follow this channel, the more I am happy with my forester.
Ryan has done great showing Subaru's true capabilities....when my 2005 Ford Taurus dies I'm getting a Subaru Forester or Outback Wilderness model.
I have the latest forester in sport trim. I looked first at a wilderness trim as well as an outback but after driving them both I like the shorter length of the forester for navigating tight trails and decided to ditch the wilderness trim on the forester and simply get some knobby tires for the sport trim. I really like how it's working out. Capable yet not very costly to own and run. A great balance. If you do not need the extra space of the outback or the power of the turbo four, get the forester. It's a little mountain goat light on its feet and surprisingly entertaining to drive with momentum through narrow twisty roads. Nearly no body roll
@@steveryder6733 Forester definitely then to avoid the turbo nonsense....thank you for the insight. I don't really go offroad, just up to camping spots which are on gravel backroads, although the camping spots are usually just dirt...but most of those trips are during the late spring, summer, and early fall before the roads get too messy...but more so I'll use it as a daily driver with the normal winter snow storms.
I don't need much room, its just me if they still made a Subaru Justy it would work just fine too LOL.
@William Sevier it's perfect for all that and more if you need it to be. Won't let you down. The 2.5 liter engine will last for the long haul as well. Took me many years and many cars to learn there is no replacement for displacement. The driving position as well was something I enjoyed. Great visibility. Always a blast having a good camping adventure with some funny stories to tell afterwards.
@@steveryder6733 Thanks. I'm right there with you on the no replacement for displacement, those tiny little turbo engines in what are supposed to be work trucks don't last when you actually request that they give you the work truck power needs all the time...they might be fine for the weekend warrior crowds who take their camp trailer out a few times a year, but for those of us who use our vehicles to haul/tow and keep them for longer than the warranty period, the larger engine is definitely the best way to go, you lose a bit of economy overall, but you gain that loss back in longevity and less failure points. My aunt works at a dealership, she gets to see all those tiny little engine vehicles coming in all the time on wreckers with catastrophic failures, not only due to the lack of engine, but due to people skipping regular maintenance, and it costs them dearly in the end. Those little turbo 4 and 6 cylinder engines don't take kindly to skipped oil/filter changes.
I’ll be sticking with my OBW. 😊
Got my Crosstrek as my first subaru. Has taken me places I feel I shouldn’t have been able to go with a lifted car. It is a beast in the snow too.
@@traviscollins3249 Happens to the best of us, I go places I really shouldn't go all the time with my 'Ru!
They're far more capable than they look LOL.
Awesome video! Now I know Telluride is out of the question on off-road capabilities.
Out of the question for long term reliability too.
@@Rockmachine99 lol how so?
@@mikeossola6397 its korean lol
@@Rockmachine99 theres been tellurides over 100k miles lmao
Shouldn't have been in question at all 😂. Only pilot trailsport should be in this class.
Honestly I would LURVE to know what percentage of people don't have legs and torso proportionate that are also discriminated against by the cars they buy
what's the annoying beeping noise I'm hearing while you're driving on the offroad course?
Parking sensors.
@@drivingsports ok thanks, that's what i figured. Can those be turned off while driving?
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork yup!
Its a nice vehicle for sure. What i dont understand is people not just getting a damn 4x4 if your plan is to go offroad. AWD cant hold a candle to a proper 4 wheeler.
Lets take the Honda Pilot Trailsport and show Telluride X-Pro how its done? Maybe? Or Subaru Ascent "Wilderness" with X-mode2 if Subaru builds it? Maybe for model year 2024? It would definitely be a good battle between Honda and Subaru as Honda has real torque vectoring awd with clutch pack in the rear vs Subaru completely rely on the ABS system.
A Subaru Ascent Wilderness would really be a good future option for their lineup for sure. Wish they'd build something like the Brat with an old school 4WD/low range setup, I'd buy one instead of buying a UTV.
@@wildbill23c Subaru having 4WD/low range in the past I guess the marketing dept said lets go behind mpg wars and just give CVT with a clutch based AWD (since CVT cannot handle a low range) 😥Since nowadays there are fuel efficient 9 speed / 10 speed automatics I really hope atleast they look at automatic transmissions just like Nissan did and skip the Crappy Vague Transmissions.
@@LionRunner Subaru was using CVTs clear back in the 80's, the "Automatic" option in the Subaru Justy was a CVT. Nothing new, other manufacturers toyed with them for a while too and gave up....although there are some of the hybrids that use some form of a CVT...except Toyota's Hybrid system I believe.
Ryan created Kia's new slogan, 'It was good until it wasn't'.
100%
Exactly!!! Untill the engine seized right after warranty expired
Love your videos, I’ve been huge fan for years now keep up the great content.
Again, Kia's off-road capabilities are pretty weak. Their vehicles abilities to transfer power appropriately need a ton of work. I've got a 2021 Sorento x-line on 32in all terrains, and it does well until it doesn't lol. Get a Subaru or Toyota if you off-road.
I went on a adventure a bit more challenging with my ford explorer and there was one obstacle a little more difficult then where the telluride got stuck but the explorer managed it’s way through much better then the telluride
How old is your Explorer? The new ones from what I can tell went back to a more rear wheel drive based AWD system, so probably a better setup...my Explorer is much older, so I still have auto, high lock, and low range 4WD and the 4.6L V8...even at that they're still more of a street car than anything you'd really take offroad.
Nice review. Somehow they made the facelifted Telluride look older than the first release Telluride. Maybe it's the removal of the distinct orange driving lights or maybe the look is just aging but at 8:39 it already looks like an old design. Seems to be dog$hit off-road too. That's a pass for me.
If it supposedly to resemble any "adventurous" trim, the front attack angle should be more aggressive. As it is now 0.4 inch ground clearance is a joke.
I hope Kia watches this video and uses it to improve the next model. Add skid plates, a real locker and a selectable low range or mode that can replicate it. Hopefully the new Chevy Traverse will be more offroad capable than this. Disappointing.
I lost interest after "on demand AWD system", which translates to mostly FWD. Just make it Torsen, is it that hard
What really shocked me was the fact the wheels in the vehicle for this trial are pretty good wheels and still it failed the last obstacle! I owns a Subaru Ascent (my wife) and a Crosstrek Sport. I know for sure that my Crosstrek with those wheels will eat all the obstacles. Not so sure about the Ascent. Beside it’s my wife car and if I scratch it, I am doomed!
I'm not so sure any small wheel awd car would do it when you stop on front of bolder by each diagonal wheel like that and try to start rolling uphill over them... I would like to see if Crosstrek would do exactly same, maybe it was clutch limitation on this specific vehicle although it did good on 3 wheel slip test
@@tallll70 there is one. Check it in his TH-cam channel. You will be surprise how good is the Subaru Crosstrek Sport, and now there will be a new and even more capable Crosstrek Wilderness for 2024. What is even more important than anything else on these vehicles is the high clearance. The Subaru Crosstrek ground clearance is 8.7 inches. Even higher than this Telluride vehicle. The new one will have 9.4 inches clearance.
You have great AWD drive SUVs. Subarus are amazing! Enjoy the off roading if you go…..you’ll have no problems. VIVA Subaru 🏆🥇
Felt like I was watching a mini-van off road test
Totally worthless for any off-road use. The drive system is a joke!
I don't know how you can design an off road oriented vehicle with a multiple mode selector and not include an off-road mode.
Right?!
Kia doing Kia things
for some reason they don't give us mud or sand mode in america but canada has it
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 Agree, but at least it did better than previous KIAs Ryan had on the channel. Lol. They were hopeless.
I've yet to see a all wheel drive that looked at home in the dirt. I just don't get them.
Bronco Sport Badlands comes the closest.
@@0HOON0 Yes. I would agree with that. 👍
Plus $20k dealer mark up
When I test drove a telluride it was clear it was more minivan than SUV.
i don't think that's a true representation of a road in Washington there no coffee shop along the road 🤣
“Oh look, there is climate control. It’s up there. I guess that means short kids can’t reach it”
Haha, that was fun. I personally appreciate the fact that a smaller child wouldn’t be able to reach it. Less things for them to just mess around with
Agreed!
What's the missile/ammo loadout in the event of a full blown chicken horde event?
Kia is being honest. Right in its name is "X" pro. It USE to be a pro but not anymore. 😢
More Kia's and Hyundais with recalls. Never buy one.
Damn that's disappointing. I love everything about it, but I need something that can handle camping and snow.
Clearly he use some momentum and drove right up that little incline. And put in sport mode to apply more power. Not snow
Hyundai Kia fined by Canada government for being slow on recalls. Can’t trust that company with everything I have heard about them.
Is this an X-PRO?
Naw. It's an X-Amateur.
Honestly anybody buying this prob is never gonna see a dirt road
Blows me away how little articulation these fake off-roaders have.
Lots of articulation tends to make for sloppy handling on the road.
Too bad the Telluride failed the updates side impact crash test by IIHS.
55k for a Kia💀 I rather get a 4 runner TRD offroad for about the same price
To be fair, he has it fully tricked put, all the bells and whistles.
The base model is way cheaper and the driving is pretty much the same.
X-Pro? Looks like X-Fail
Anyone who wants to do that will buy a jeep or a bronco. The Telluride is the best bang for the buck in the family suv market.
Not bad. I’m saving my cash for the coming crash where these babies will be going for Pennies on the dollar.
Exactly. Kia’s historically have one of the highest depreciation in the industry. This bubble can’t be sustained forever. When the bubble bursts pennies on the dollar is certainly going to be accurate.
You're right. Best part of Yours reviews for me is off-road test. And those are great. Greetings
Im just laughing because my 2nd gen Honda Passport (Isuzu Rodeo) can manage this type of terrain on worn tires without ever engaging the 4wd.
Fk KIA , mine just got the engine seized 3 months after the warranty expired, aperently there is a recall but mine is not aligible even though the same thing happened to the aligable for recall cars..
The car is 2013 kia sportage..
Buy buy kia.. I used to love it.. now never again.. will be getting a 4runner..
Wondering which 3 row suv you would give the best off road rating of these four: telluride xpro, pathfinder rock creek and pilot trail sport, explorer timberline.
Junk....have to tip toe around, zero protection, why do these manufactures advertise as rugged without making them rugged
It’s like testing the off-road capabilities of a shopping cart. Oddly interesting but not really relevant to how 99% will be used.
Ryan, were you able to get the brown stain off the seat after tipping the vehicle on 2 opposing wheels????
Hahah if Ryan doesn’t heart this comment then I’m done lol
0.4" additional height? that's insignificant with no additional wheel suspension travel
The XPRo is a joke, its not any kind of off road vehicle.
Nothing like a Subaru
Not a fair offroad review. You keep the wheels straight with the telluride and does not move and with the subaru you turn them a few times until it grips the rock and climbs out.
Nice looking vehicle but I think I’ll stick with my Outback.
Subaru is legendary in the AWD department.
My friend are you feeling ok? You DO NOT have enough ground clearance to be doing that type of off roading with the Telluride.