I honestly never understood why killing walkers on the fence wasn't a main priority in the prison. Sure, it sucks, but dirty jobs will always exist and especially one that important should have been carried out at ALL times. We see Rick farming and there's just a horde piled up on the fence with no one taking care of it, no wonder they got sick. Also, Alpha's camp was a joke, imagine being in the woods. There you go, that's it. How in the hell did anyone follow her? "Hey guys lets run around in the woods with corpses, smell like shit, treat each other terribly, and kill our babies" Psh yeah right.
I'd like to think of the Prison is meant to be a lesson for Rick and the group not to get too comfortable and lazy within the confines of the home base. The relied too much on the fence for security and that hubris lead to them not constantly mopping up the hordes of zombies and getting rid of the corpses outside the parameters, which slowly weakened not only the fence over time, but their sense of danger outside of the fence. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it and it looked like a cool set piece to have in the back whenever they were outside.
they followed alpha for 2 reasons: -they used to have another leader who may have run things differently -they never seemed to die from walkers or other stuff like the rest of the communities. when people can't fight or grow stuff, they're pretty much worthless so they can't really start a community themselves because they can't clear a building and they also can't help in any other meaningful way to put things into working condition, because they can cook or clean but a farmer can do that too, so they only serve a purpose in a well established setting
The sad thing about the vatos is that they were fighting a losing war. Once gang members, they chose to do good, even in a world that would punish them for doing so…
Should be included, the Greene's farm is at the middle of nowhere with swamps around (making zombies *cough cough* WALKERS- get stuck), good farming and silent, so walkers would probably turn around and never break in if you keep the lights off... (Sorry any english mistakes, btw)
It was the golden Era of the walking dead. This was during the times where we would be dying for the next episode and huddling up to the TV when the new episode came on its my favorite Era too
@gregoryellory9760 not to mention the story has just gotten tired. When it first came out it was new and special but 13 years later these new seasons feel like every other zombie show/movie made today
@powcod7455 I think they should of just stuck with the Rick Grimes movies plan because they could've spaced them out which would be more time for production values
The kingdom eventually fell tho, that was the whole point of them leaving was beacuse the kingdom became unsustainable. I forgot specifically how it happened but they everually lost water and agriculture i believe
It was structure issues because they were built around a school and didn’t have anyone to keep up with maintaining the plumbing properly. But this is 10 years into the apocalypse so they did pretty well for a long time.
the water system failed because it was too old to repair and even then they didn't have any plumber or even proper parts, so a fire destroyed a big part of it. they lost agriculture because there was a pest they couldn't get rid of which caused them to burn everything and start from scratch. they only lost food because they didn't think of separating crops enough for them to not all catch that thing
Honestly, I think the remains of each group should have just flocked to one place and set up a mega colony after the Savior wars. Every group lost people and infrastructure, alot of people, and they should have just looted what was useful from the bases not selected for all of them to live at. Granted, they would have to decide what place to completely fortify, and the tension between the remaining saviors and the other survivors hadn't simmered at all, but it would ultimately be the right choice. Dangerous to put all your eggs in one basket, but you'd have all the resources going to one location, not spread out between all the other ones.
but they were though. lol. community simply means group of people. generally i think it means "community" also having fixed location. being that they roamed over everything their community was simply roaming walkers lol
Good to have you back Captain! I always like that one of the biggest political advantages the Kingdom had during the saviors reign was that they were paired with Gavin, the one 'reasonable' Savior general. Who allowed second chances and the arrangement to go on largely behind-the-scenes at Ezekiels wishes. Also, Tiger
@@TheRealCaptainGoldSimon did a very bad job with the scavengers. Dude may as well have enslaved them and the saviours could have dozens of new slaves to do the worst tasks while KING NEGAN is as kind as it gets and relieves some of his lower ranking subjects from harsh labour.
I think if you could pick up Alexandria and place it into Georgia you would have the best place to live by far, but given its geography in the show being so close to rival groups and the amount of Hordes it’s had problems with… I think I’d take Woodbury, like you said there’s no rival groups (if not for the Gov going loco at the prison) 😅 fantastic video I love these ranking videos 👍🔥
im pretty sure he didn't talk about the reapers because they weren't much of a community, just a murderous group that didn't necessarily take anyone in.
@@First-Name--Last-Name They did take people in. One of the questions they'd ask survivors is if they'd dine on LONG PIG to survive lol. If the survivor said yes then they'd take them in.
@@First-Name--Last-NameTerminus literally was a hive of cannibals who lived in their own homes and waited for unsuspecting people to come. They took in the strong people who willingly joined them
@@GiuseppeDeRosa2001 I didn’t consider them a community. If they were, I’d probably place them somewhere in Silver. They got s*** done despite their lack of raw manpower.
I personally would love to see you cover the spinoffs! I need to know I’m not the only one who watched them 😭 I got into twd to get to know my brother better, and over about the last 18~ months we have consumed nearly every piece of twd media. We have seen all webisodes with the exception of the Althea tapes, all of world beyond, all of dead city, 7.5 seasons of fear, all of the main show, all of Daryl Dixon, all of the ones who live, and have both played survival instinct. We are yet to play dead reckoning or any of the other cannon games to the show and have not seen tales yet. Edit: I also have some recommendations if anyone is interested in watching some of them. Just ask!
I like The Kingdom. Their community was both rural and suburban combined, originally a military fort and had farm crops. The only downside was that the fire eventually broke out.
God this is such a cool list. I think you could do a follow up of all these communities fighting each other & seeing who wins. I mean, it probably comes down to the Whisperers & Saviors. I know our boy Gold poo poo's on the Whisperers. And while I tend to agree with his points. In universe the Whisperers were a literal major threat to our fully formed coalition. It's even partially implied that the death of Alpha is the only reason our heroes survived. Seemingly if Alpha lived to lead the full war the Whisperers likely would've won. I still think the Saviors simply had the military might to beat the Whisperers. So my bet being the Saviors edging that fight. But still seeing where they all rank against each other in combat could be cool. Damn this was a fun video! I do want to see more! The Spin Offs offer some fun enough new communities. I think Fear had enough variety of communities that you could do a video solely based on that 1 spin off. But all the other spin-offs at most have 2 seasons & limited groups per show. It's like max 3 communities worth talking about per show so all the other spin offs could be covered in their own video. That would at least give you 2 vids to make & make this a 3 part series. 4 part if you dedicate a final video to the bigger communities like commonwealth, CRM, Maybe even the regular military as seen at the start of the apocalypse? I would also point out you missed the Reapers. While disappointing I think they were far better than anyone in shit or bronze. Also the Wolves, The Claimers & what not weren't mentioned. Maybe you can argue these groups are more nomadic raiders than communities which I'd tentatively agree with, in which case maybe a nomadic groups tier list would be fun?
I been watching you for a while now and i gotta say, i like your way of thinking and your views on certain ethical topics, keep up the good work Captain Gold 😁
Whisperers at the bottom of the list and the Kingdom on Top. Very based. Also I know for some spinoffs, it might be too early. But, I wouldn't mind a list comprising of the communities in the Walking Dead spinoffs.
Great video but I’d like to see where you would rank Martinez’s group with their trenches and the apartment building where Negan began to redeem himself in Maggie’s eyes by saving her kid. Also, might be a stretch to call one guy a “community,” but Gabriel’s church is interesting simply because of his huge food stores that lasted him over a year and his complete inability to fight the dead.
Woodbury is gold, but Prison is silver... this is insane. Ricks group snuck into Newberry once a week and had no fighting abilities outside of like 5 dudes. Yeah, the prison needed a stronger fence. The fence in the mean time was fine. Id just prioritize burying either scavenged 4x4's or just tree trunks in front of it and tie it to the fence, double reinforcement itd be like colonial forts. As they rotted they could just be replaced. Some extra chain link poles that you can find everywhere would've also helped. Also you can do a make shift sugi ban with a bonfire and old motor oil to drastically slow the wood rot. Sickness comes with every growing community, but you can limit with quarantine and mandatory cell lockups at night so if someone turns they can't kill the whole cell block. The only true critique about the prison is the optics, every scumbag in the state knows about the place and what it has and will think to go there. Its a good idea and so the PR would make it uninhabitable. Functionally, it's platinum tier though. Those things have workshops, infirmary, armory, kitchen, library, huge yards, isolation wards, plenty of beds, clothes, facilities, power generators, communication abilities, watch towers, fortifications, vehicles. But no, a 4 block town is better equipped...
They only managed to sneak into Woodbury because Michonne had used her time there to find a way back in. By the end of the next day they had found the weak point they used and reinforced it as well as other potentially weak areas. Rick and the group were also far above the capabilities of average survivors by that time. If the Governor had defeated the prison then his new training regiments would have seen the majority of Woodbury become capable fighters. They also had far more room for expansion and facility adaptability than the prison as they were already planning on adding new space in the town of Woodbury as well as their overall territory of influence.
This is why I don’t like communities like the CRM and Commonwealth. They just feel unrealistic to me. If you expect me to believe that modern military could fall to zombies just for groups with (let’s be generous) half of the power and equipment of the military to rise and create essentially whole cities. I just don’t buy it. I much prefer the more grounded communities we see throughout the first couple of seasons. It just felt more realistic that these people would make communities like those
thé CRM is the national gaurd of the state is Pennsylvania they changed their name to the CRM because they where not under american government control and order but their own sovereign state
Half the power of the US military? The CRM started as the philly national guard who opted out of operation cobalt. It was a city state that thrived with an effective army. Military command broke and resorted to mass bombardments instead of making dedicated strong points and arming it with an entire unit of NG. CRM thought of this, rebelled, formed their own command, structure and laws with some of THE best quality of life. It isnt too far fetched.
Tbf with FTWD and TOWL lore in mind it seems like there was basically a civil war between the National Guard/Airforce and the rest of the US military during the early outbreak, which contributed to it falling. It wasn’t just the zombies.
Did you know one of the Volta gang one of the survivors made it to Woodbury if you watch it the one holding glen on the roof is also one of the governors right hand man so I wonder if Woodbury wiped out the gang but also imagine if the prison had the wolves from Alexandria would be the best place ever great content 🤘
Wood berry would have been the best except for the crazy guy running it. If not for Phillip, that town would have likely played a huge role in humanities comeback.
Just subscribed to your channel. I honestly was sick of TWX because I was there for season 2-7, heard from friends about season 1 and was there for the Taletell series. I prefer Invincible more. However, watching the Telltale series and stumbling onto your channel made like it again.
If you recall though, the truck itself didnt actually breach the wall. The wall only got breached because the tower next to the wall collapsed onto the wall.
Personally the Prison was the best settlement; if only there was an option and time to actually replace the chain link fence with fortified timber or cement walls with catwalks for perimeter overlook.
I knew you were going to put the Kingdom at the top, because they had the best thriving community when introduced . If Negan wasn’t Negan , which caused damage , and then the whispers they could’ve survived indefinitely, once they got their water situation together.
But the whisperers do their business out of their camps as Alpha said when Negan went up to her and apologized she said that it was for hygiene purposes not privacy but yea everything else was really bad and it also doesn’t make sense that the people from terminus decided to just change to agriculture or some other way to get food after all that time also great vid
As someone that used to work in a retirement home. I couldn't imagine just leaving them there and fucking off. The Vatos if for nothing else were honorable to the end.
The one thing that gets me about the later episodes, where we run into the Commonwealth and especially the CRM, is a complete lack of any tactical thinking by the people in charge. We see the CRM hauling shit around in Chinooks. All they need to do is locate a herd, ferry in a few sturdy cages that can hold ten or twenty troops, and drop them on the edge of the herd. The dead would swarm the cages, be unable to do anything, and just get butchered. When there's enough of them dead, hook the damn cages up to a chopper and fly the troops inside out. Better use of resources than gassing people to death for no reason. I guess they just had to go OTT for the big villain in The Ones Who Lived but it was ridiculous. Even the smaller communities could have done something similar by luring herds into a pre-prepared kill zone with an easy escape route, like a river, or the damn ocean with the settlement beside the sea. You'd clear so many dead. Then again, it was always about humans being more dangerous than the zombies.
Yo, just discovered your channel. Great video, i agree with most of it but FINALLY (!!!!) someone who shares my opinion of Maggie 🙏 Shes worthless, a bad leader, a liability and absolutely easy to hate
An interesting idea I just had. Why didn't any of the groups take water from the streams and use a camp fire to sanitize it? They could have used that for cleaning at minimum.
Captain gold two places you missed. The Reapers and also that one place where neagan found his wife. Otherwise completely agree with you on everything.
really good list with great points, i never noticed terminus had any crops in it, the only thing i would say is you down played the hospital a bit because they had crops on the roof and in the dump im sure they all had shipping containers to sleep in, and you were Right about the whisperers they could be taken out by some non lethal weapon of some kind because you just need to let the walkers do the work for you after that then you can do your redirecting tactics to take care of them, they probably did wild food foraging mostly and some hunting to stay alive and taking from communities that they beat
Tbh I think he downplayed the whisperers just a tad. Okay they're a bit weird and don't have a great standard of living but their ability to deal with and even control zombies is second to none. No other community except maybe the commonwealth and civic republic come anywhere close to their effectiveness and in the latters case it's only because they have an experienced, large and well stocked military. The whisperers walk among and control the herd at their disposal. Realistically nobody is getting close to their camps as to do so they need to go through thousands of zombies to do so. Their philosophy isn't too great, sure, but its worked well enough.
@@Powergenetic The greatest advantage they have is stealth among zombies. If enemy targets 1 of them and that person gets hit he or she is done but rest can move on. The issue with them is that what they do isn't living. They merely survive. They do not live like humans and at some point they will be more like animals than humans. It is great to be able to control zombies ngl.
@@gerardmcquade9102 Tbf to Daryl and the main cast like their plot armour is so thick that they would survive a massive explosion using nothing but a wet tarp ... Wait a second ... Controlling zombies was always something that annoyed me though post whisperers. They knew it worked, they'd seen it work, they had a veteran whisperer among the community in Lydia but rarely ever tried to employ those methods for herding zombies. It made ZERO sense. Like, if you're on a looting run why wouldn't you just loot somewhere while disguised as a walker? Or at least clear said area with the disguise?
Alexandria ain't well safe as you said... It is literally surrounded by trees, bushes and places to hide, during Wolf's (stupid arc btw, but anyway) attack, one of watchouts soldiers got burned by a cocktail Molotov and didn't even saw that coming, also, they break through the walls with a truck... But besides all the exterior problems, Alexandria also had interiors problem, with all it's inhabitants being untrained (since Alexandria used to be a militar safe-zone, so they never had to fight) and they only managed to stay around because the zombies used to fall and get stuck at that quarry a few miles away (Sorry any english mistakes by the way, I'm learning).
the kingdom is barely gold. the plumbing was too old which ended up making it fall, and the crops died from a single pest they couldn't get rid of because they grew stuff too close to each other, which is a fatal mistake that didn't happen to hilltop or alexandria, who were taught to farm by actual farmers
It was mainly the plumbing issue and the boilers breaking, causing fires at the worst time. The Kingdom fell to a series of unfortunate events, not due to anything inherently wrong with it.
@TheRealCaptainGold having all the crops near each other is clearly a big issue and it affects them even without a pest around them, which is one of the two main reasons they fell, and the plumbing/boilers breaking is an inherent flaw to a place. you wouldn't buy a house that needs to be half torn down to be repaired so it doesn't destroy the whole building in 10 years or less, and it's even worse in the end of the world because you can't access the parts or the knowledge to do the swap. this wouldn't be an issue if the place itself could be rebuilt with chimneys and better insulation, but that would've been too hard and the place already had fire damage so there was no time
@ That’s fair. I’m just saying what happened within the lore - those were the main reasons for the fall. The fires caused from the boilers breaking and the pipes rupturing left the kingdom ruined. You could argue the crop situation could be worked around via trade. All the communities after the Savior War tended to help each other. For the most part. Things got less cordial after Rick left for some odd reason and they never expanded on it.
Really love this. But MAN do I not like seeing the prison below Woodbury! I think the prison wasn’t capitalized on. The forest surround it could have been felled to bolster defenses and offer more sightlines. The biggest issue is the fence. HOW DID THEY NOT HAVE PEOPLE SMOKING WALKERS ON THAT FENCE 24/7?! Do it in shifts with a sharp branch ffs, prison is the goat for potential with cook aesthetics
If you had the choice would you live in one if these communities which would you choose? Or would you solo it? I'd love to see a video of other communities as well please.
As historians mention about siege warfare. Dig ditches. Lots and lots of ditches. Now food may usually not be enough but in some cause they do have enough food and I simply don't understand why they can't build a deep ditch that would inevitably hold off zombies even halt a small horde. Perhaps it be useful against rival communities by having bridge so to lift it and enemy has to waste some time in order to go over the ditch. Deep holes hidden by grass, tree branches and so on here and there around perimeter would also be useful to screw with invading community.
Not a community. Literally just a house with 3 people briefly living in it. No fences, broken door, and no steady access to food and water. Hardly a shelter at that point.
I hated the garbage people so much smh. I hated how they talked the most. It was so fun seeing their leader break character and her ego fade after Simon and the saviors took their weapons and started killing them.
Ranked from Best to Worst in terms of suitable living conditions: 1) Woodbury 2) Alexandria 3)The Commonwealth 4( The Kingdom %) The Sanctuary 6)The Prison 7)Terminus
Simple: Civic Republic was (or is) best. At least in terms of old world standards. I mean the reformed Civic Republic (Military) we see at the end of the Rick/Michonne show. Highest living standard for the most people.
I honestly never understood why killing walkers on the fence wasn't a main priority in the prison. Sure, it sucks, but dirty jobs will always exist and especially one that important should have been carried out at ALL times. We see Rick farming and there's just a horde piled up on the fence with no one taking care of it, no wonder they got sick.
Also, Alpha's camp was a joke, imagine being in the woods. There you go, that's it. How in the hell did anyone follow her? "Hey guys lets run around in the woods with corpses, smell like shit, treat each other terribly, and kill our babies" Psh yeah right.
They honestly should've barricaded the prison more and built around it
I'd like to think of the Prison is meant to be a lesson for Rick and the group not to get too comfortable and lazy within the confines of the home base. The relied too much on the fence for security and that hubris lead to them not constantly mopping up the hordes of zombies and getting rid of the corpses outside the parameters, which slowly weakened not only the fence over time, but their sense of danger outside of the fence. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it and it looked like a cool set piece to have in the back whenever they were outside.
they followed alpha for 2 reasons:
-they used to have another leader who may have run things differently
-they never seemed to die from walkers or other stuff like the rest of the communities.
when people can't fight or grow stuff, they're pretty much worthless so they can't really start a community themselves because they can't clear a building and they also can't help in any other meaningful way to put things into working condition, because they can cook or clean but a farmer can do that too, so they only serve a purpose in a well established setting
If the writers had any logic show wouldn't be terrible,
to be fair they didnt even consider they could get sick from walkers, and if the fence is holding no need to waste energy
The sad thing about the vatos is that they were fighting a losing war. Once gang members, they chose to do good, even in a world that would punish them for doing so…
3:46 "the Governor's aggressive foreign policy" is certainly one way to put it 💀
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He conducted a Special Military Operation against the Prison
Communities is the coolest things about post apoc stories they all come in diffrent shapes and sizes
Immortan joe’s army from mad max would solo all of these communities ngl
It's especially fun to see most of them all united together, almost like a government
Heh it’s you from the cooldee video
@@ELPez276hehe yes
Ikr they’re so skibidi
Take a drink every time he drops an F bomb in this video
damn i might try that
Idk why I expected Hershel's Farm to be on this list lmao.
Definitely felt like a community but it was more like the motel in the Telltale game
Should be included, the Greene's farm is at the middle of nowhere with swamps around (making zombies *cough cough* WALKERS- get stuck), good farming and silent, so walkers would probably turn around and never break in if you keep the lights off...
(Sorry any english mistakes, btw)
Woodbury and the prison will always have a special place in my heart
@@gregoryellory9760 sameee
It was the golden Era of the walking dead. This was during the times where we would be dying for the next episode and huddling up to the TV when the new episode came on its my favorite Era too
@powcod7455 plus there was a bit more mystery to the storylines I hate the amount of "leaks" that happen nowadays
@gregoryellory9760 not to mention the story has just gotten tired. When it first came out it was new and special but 13 years later these new seasons feel like every other zombie show/movie made today
@powcod7455 I think they should of just stuck with the Rick Grimes movies plan because they could've spaced them out which would be more time for production values
The kingdom eventually fell tho, that was the whole point of them leaving was beacuse the kingdom became unsustainable. I forgot specifically how it happened but they everually lost water and agriculture i believe
it got burned down
It was structure issues because they were built around a school and didn’t have anyone to keep up with maintaining the plumbing properly. But this is 10 years into the apocalypse so they did pretty well for a long time.
I think the snowstorm caused irreparable damage.
the water system failed because it was too old to repair and even then they didn't have any plumber or even proper parts, so a fire destroyed a big part of it. they lost agriculture because there was a pest they couldn't get rid of which caused them to burn everything and start from scratch. they only lost food because they didn't think of separating crops enough for them to not all catch that thing
Honestly, I think the remains of each group should have just flocked to one place and set up a mega colony after the Savior wars. Every group lost people and infrastructure, alot of people, and they should have just looted what was useful from the bases not selected for all of them to live at. Granted, they would have to decide what place to completely fortify, and the tension between the remaining saviors and the other survivors hadn't simmered at all, but it would ultimately be the right choice. Dangerous to put all your eggs in one basket, but you'd have all the resources going to one location, not spread out between all the other ones.
Alexandria's top of the list IMO 7-8 years after the Savior War Kingdom couldn't sustain anymore yet Alexandria and everyone else left did.
The only community that should be beating it, is the Commonwealth.
honestly wasn't expecting such a good video, many people don't really effectively analyze this show, you did great!
This guy says “fuck” or “fucking” for emphasis like 15 times and i laughed every one😭
Thats what makes it genuinely good to watch. No holding back on feelings on walkers lol
I wouldn't even count The Whisperers as a community anymore than I would count The Claimers as one.
but they were though. lol. community simply means group of people. generally i think it means "community" also having fixed location. being that they roamed over everything their community was simply roaming walkers lol
They’re basically the same ? Moving around /setting up camps? Not only where they a Bigger group but also had territory
Good to have you back Captain!
I always like that one of the biggest political advantages the Kingdom had during the saviors reign was that they were paired with Gavin, the one 'reasonable' Savior general. Who allowed second chances and the arrangement to go on largely behind-the-scenes at Ezekiels wishes. Also, Tiger
@@jiggycalzone8585 Yeah, they really lucked out with Gavin. Dude should’ve honestly been Negan’s right hand instead of Simon.
@@TheRealCaptainGoldSimon did a very bad job with the scavengers. Dude may as well have enslaved them and the saviours could have dozens of new slaves to do the worst tasks while KING NEGAN is as kind as it gets and relieves some of his lower ranking subjects from harsh labour.
I think if you could pick up Alexandria and place it into Georgia you would have the best place to live by far, but given its geography in the show being so close to rival groups and the amount of Hordes it’s had problems with… I think I’d take Woodbury, like you said there’s no rival groups (if not for the Gov going loco at the prison) 😅 fantastic video I love these ranking videos 👍🔥
bros swearing like a middle schooler that just learned swear words
Yeah, it's super cringe.
@ “rick fUcKiNg grimes”
like dude who is this for
You are cooking with this content, awesome video! 🤝
Yeeeea, I’ve been waiting on this one!
I love watching some captain gold while doing some hw…
Surprised he didn’t add the reapers.
im pretty sure he didn't talk about the reapers because they weren't much of a community, just a murderous group that didn't necessarily take anyone in.
@@capitolcircleslike terminus took anyone in
@@First-Name--Last-Name They did take people in. One of the questions they'd ask survivors is if they'd dine on LONG PIG to survive lol. If the survivor said yes then they'd take them in.
@@First-Name--Last-NameTerminus literally was a hive of cannibals who lived in their own homes and waited for unsuspecting people to come. They took in the strong people who willingly joined them
@@GiuseppeDeRosa2001 I didn’t consider them a community. If they were, I’d probably place them somewhere in Silver. They got s*** done despite their lack of raw manpower.
I personally would love to see you cover the spinoffs! I need to know I’m not the only one who watched them 😭
I got into twd to get to know my brother better, and over about the last 18~ months we have consumed nearly every piece of twd media. We have seen all webisodes with the exception of the Althea tapes, all of world beyond, all of dead city, 7.5 seasons of fear, all of the main show, all of Daryl Dixon, all of the ones who live, and have both played survival instinct. We are yet to play dead reckoning or any of the other cannon games to the show and have not seen tales yet.
Edit: I also have some recommendations if anyone is interested in watching some of them. Just ask!
Rank them please.
I like The Kingdom. Their community was both rural and suburban combined, originally a military fort and had farm crops. The only downside was that the fire eventually broke out.
my man swears so politely w insane elegance
1:51 😂the fossils is crazzzy
Brutal . Heartless . 😂😂
I look forward to your awesome twd content and scenarios/explainers. Keep up the good work Captain Gold!
Dbz music in a walking dead video? A man of culture I see
God this is such a cool list. I think you could do a follow up of all these communities fighting each other & seeing who wins. I mean, it probably comes down to the Whisperers & Saviors. I know our boy Gold poo poo's on the Whisperers. And while I tend to agree with his points. In universe the Whisperers were a literal major threat to our fully formed coalition. It's even partially implied that the death of Alpha is the only reason our heroes survived. Seemingly if Alpha lived to lead the full war the Whisperers likely would've won. I still think the Saviors simply had the military might to beat the Whisperers. So my bet being the Saviors edging that fight. But still seeing where they all rank against each other in combat could be cool. Damn this was a fun video!
I do want to see more! The Spin Offs offer some fun enough new communities. I think Fear had enough variety of communities that you could do a video solely based on that 1 spin off. But all the other spin-offs at most have 2 seasons & limited groups per show. It's like max 3 communities worth talking about per show so all the other spin offs could be covered in their own video. That would at least give you 2 vids to make & make this a 3 part series. 4 part if you dedicate a final video to the bigger communities like commonwealth, CRM, Maybe even the regular military as seen at the start of the apocalypse?
I would also point out you missed the Reapers. While disappointing I think they were far better than anyone in shit or bronze. Also the Wolves, The Claimers & what not weren't mentioned. Maybe you can argue these groups are more nomadic raiders than communities which I'd tentatively agree with, in which case maybe a nomadic groups tier list would be fun?
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I’ll be doing a Whisperers vs Saviors vid in the future
You are one of my fav TH-cam channels for the walking dead with amazing content!!
I been watching you for a while now and i gotta say, i like your way of thinking and your views on certain ethical topics, keep up the good work Captain Gold 😁
Whisperers at the bottom of the list and the Kingdom on Top.
Very based.
Also I know for some spinoffs, it might be too early. But, I wouldn't mind a list comprising of the communities in the Walking Dead spinoffs.
I appreciate the dragon ball music from the games definitely gave me some nostalgia
Great video but I’d like to see where you would rank Martinez’s group with their trenches and the apartment building where Negan began to redeem himself in Maggie’s eyes by saving her kid. Also, might be a stretch to call one guy a “community,” but Gabriel’s church is interesting simply because of his huge food stores that lasted him over a year and his complete inability to fight the dead.
Hershel's farm was the most peaceful one
Woodbury is gold, but Prison is silver... this is insane. Ricks group snuck into Newberry once a week and had no fighting abilities outside of like 5 dudes. Yeah, the prison needed a stronger fence. The fence in the mean time was fine. Id just prioritize burying either scavenged 4x4's or just tree trunks in front of it and tie it to the fence, double reinforcement itd be like colonial forts. As they rotted they could just be replaced. Some extra chain link poles that you can find everywhere would've also helped. Also you can do a make shift sugi ban with a bonfire and old motor oil to drastically slow the wood rot. Sickness comes with every growing community, but you can limit with quarantine and mandatory cell lockups at night so if someone turns they can't kill the whole cell block. The only true critique about the prison is the optics, every scumbag in the state knows about the place and what it has and will think to go there. Its a good idea and so the PR would make it uninhabitable. Functionally, it's platinum tier though. Those things have workshops, infirmary, armory, kitchen, library, huge yards, isolation wards, plenty of beds, clothes, facilities, power generators, communication abilities, watch towers, fortifications, vehicles. But no, a 4 block town is better equipped...
They only managed to sneak into Woodbury because Michonne had used her time there to find a way back in. By the end of the next day they had found the weak point they used and reinforced it as well as other potentially weak areas. Rick and the group were also far above the capabilities of average survivors by that time. If the Governor had defeated the prison then his new training regiments would have seen the majority of Woodbury become capable fighters. They also had far more room for expansion and facility adaptability than the prison as they were already planning on adding new space in the town of Woodbury as well as their overall territory of influence.
Wolf's easily got onto Alexandria. BEST FOOD SOUCE WAS HERSHALS FARM 🚜
another amazing captain gold video, keep up these videos bro
Made my weekend Captain Gold!
This is why I don’t like communities like the CRM and Commonwealth. They just feel unrealistic to me. If you expect me to believe that modern military could fall to zombies just for groups with (let’s be generous) half of the power and equipment of the military to rise and create essentially whole cities. I just don’t buy it. I much prefer the more grounded communities we see throughout the first couple of seasons. It just felt more realistic that these people would make communities like those
thé CRM is the national gaurd of the state is Pennsylvania they changed their name to the CRM because they where not under american government control and order but their own sovereign state
Half the power of the US military? The CRM started as the philly national guard who opted out of operation cobalt. It was a city state that thrived with an effective army. Military command broke and resorted to mass bombardments instead of making dedicated strong points and arming it with an entire unit of NG. CRM thought of this, rebelled, formed their own command, structure and laws with some of THE best quality of life.
It isnt too far fetched.
Both are plausible
Those communities didn't rise up from scratch. They survived the initial apocalypse and continued to thrive and adjust to the new world
Tbf with FTWD and TOWL lore in mind it seems like there was basically a civil war between the National Guard/Airforce and the rest of the US military during the early outbreak, which contributed to it falling. It wasn’t just the zombies.
Did you know one of the Volta gang one of the survivors made it to Woodbury if you watch it the one holding glen on the roof is also one of the governors right hand man so I wonder if Woodbury wiped out the gang but also imagine if the prison had the wolves from Alexandria would be the best place ever great content 🤘
Lmaoo It’s funny that I can see the hospital from my window
The addition of "Fucking" to Rick's full name should be canonized.
The Budokai Tenkaichi music in the background 🔥
It’s awesome to hear you cuss in your videos. Great video .
Very underrated channel also i loved this video!
I would enjoy the spin offs being ranked to get a full picture
Would love to see where The Tower made. Loved Strand's ''Negan'' arc... ''Fear's Sanctuary'' making the same exact spot would be dope, heh
Wood berry would have been the best except for the crazy guy running it. If not for Phillip, that town would have likely played a huge role in humanities comeback.
Just subscribed to your channel.
I honestly was sick of TWX because I was there for season 2-7, heard from friends about season 1 and was there for the Taletell series. I prefer Invincible more.
However, watching the Telltale series and stumbling onto your channel made like it again.
im so obsessed with TWD lore
9:58 or human error (5x15), or a semi truck moving at a moderate speed (6x01)
If you recall though, the truck itself didnt actually breach the wall. The wall only got breached because the tower next to the wall collapsed onto the wall.
Personally the Prison was the best settlement; if only there was an option and time to actually replace the chain link fence with fortified timber or cement walls with catwalks for perimeter overlook.
I knew you were going to put the Kingdom at the top, because they had the best thriving community when introduced . If Negan wasn’t Negan , which caused damage , and then the whispers they could’ve survived indefinitely, once they got their water situation together.
But the whisperers do their business out of their camps as Alpha said when Negan went up to her and apologized she said that it was for hygiene purposes not privacy but yea everything else was really bad and it also doesn’t make sense that the people from terminus decided to just change to agriculture or some other way to get food after all that time also great vid
As someone that used to work in a retirement home.
I couldn't imagine just leaving them there and fucking off.
The Vatos if for nothing else were honorable to the end.
the vatos, while weakest, were definitely the best and morally correct group. They didn't deserve to die like that.
Exactly. They refused to give in to the selfishness of the post apocalyptic world and tried to protect those who cannot protect themselves.
8:59 song is called challengers from dbz budokai 2
the dbz budokai soundtrack just solidified you as a goat
The one thing that gets me about the later episodes, where we run into the Commonwealth and especially the CRM, is a complete lack of any tactical thinking by the people in charge. We see the CRM hauling shit around in Chinooks. All they need to do is locate a herd, ferry in a few sturdy cages that can hold ten or twenty troops, and drop them on the edge of the herd. The dead would swarm the cages, be unable to do anything, and just get butchered. When there's enough of them dead, hook the damn cages up to a chopper and fly the troops inside out. Better use of resources than gassing people to death for no reason. I guess they just had to go OTT for the big villain in The Ones Who Lived but it was ridiculous. Even the smaller communities could have done something similar by luring herds into a pre-prepared kill zone with an easy escape route, like a river, or the damn ocean with the settlement beside the sea. You'd clear so many dead. Then again, it was always about humans being more dangerous than the zombies.
Yo,
just discovered your channel. Great video, i agree with most of it but FINALLY (!!!!) someone who shares my opinion of Maggie 🙏 Shes worthless, a bad leader, a liability and absolutely easy to hate
An interesting idea I just had. Why didn't any of the groups take water from the streams and use a camp fire to sanitize it? They could have used that for cleaning at minimum.
For real I was thinking maybe if there is a bunch of dead bodies in it idk only reason I could think of
Or just the chance of getting sick and dying from dysentery in the apocalypse would suck 😂
@@bleath2111still, no bacteria can survive being boiled.
@@bleath2111weren’t they already infected?also wouldn’t boiling the water kill the bacteria?
They did that in the quarry camp in season one. The old rock quarry had a huge supply of water that they were drawing from and boiling daily.
You forgot the wolves and how they easily breeched Alexandria security.
Using dragon ball raging blast soundtrack in the background is wild but noticed😂
I don't know why but this video reminded me of the Flash game Rebuild
So... the kingdom is higher than Alexandria even when we saw it fall in season 9?
Captain gold two places you missed. The Reapers and also that one place where neagan found his wife. Otherwise completely agree with you on everything.
Fuck yeah new captain gold video
Someone finally acknowledging Dawn being a hottie 🔥
My head cannon is that the vatos got killed by the governor when he found Merle in Atlanta
I feel like the whisperers combat power should at least raise them a tier.
You do a good review, but why do you have to curse to prevent it?
really good list with great points, i never noticed terminus had any crops in it, the only thing i would say is you down played the hospital a bit because they had crops on the roof and in the dump im sure they all had shipping containers to sleep in, and you were Right about the whisperers they could be taken out by some non lethal weapon of some kind because you just need to let the walkers do the work for you after that then you can do your redirecting tactics to take care of them, they probably did wild food foraging mostly and some hunting to stay alive and taking from communities that they beat
Tbh I think he downplayed the whisperers just a tad. Okay they're a bit weird and don't have a great standard of living but their ability to deal with and even control zombies is second to none. No other community except maybe the commonwealth and civic republic come anywhere close to their effectiveness and in the latters case it's only because they have an experienced, large and well stocked military.
The whisperers walk among and control the herd at their disposal. Realistically nobody is getting close to their camps as to do so they need to go through thousands of zombies to do so.
Their philosophy isn't too great, sure, but its worked well enough.
@@Powergenetic Henry was in there, Daryl was in there and Maggie Daryl and Negan learned how to control them and Elijah
@@Powergenetic The greatest advantage they have is stealth among zombies. If enemy targets 1 of them and that person gets hit he or she is done but rest can move on. The issue with them is that what they do isn't living. They merely survive. They do not live like humans and at some point they will be more like animals than humans. It is great to be able to control zombies ngl.
@@gerardmcquade9102 Tbf to Daryl and the main cast like their plot armour is so thick that they would survive a massive explosion using nothing but a wet tarp ... Wait a second ...
Controlling zombies was always something that annoyed me though post whisperers. They knew it worked, they'd seen it work, they had a veteran whisperer among the community in Lydia but rarely ever tried to employ those methods for herding zombies. It made ZERO sense. Like, if you're on a looting run why wouldn't you just loot somewhere while disguised as a walker? Or at least clear said area with the disguise?
@@Powergenetic the wet tarp wasn't for the explosion it was to block the gas out so they don't breath it
ig the kingdom proves monarchism is the most effective political system in a zombie ridden world
Would love to hear about the spin off communities
Alexandria ain't well safe as you said...
It is literally surrounded by trees, bushes and places to hide, during Wolf's (stupid arc btw, but anyway) attack, one of watchouts soldiers got burned by a cocktail Molotov and didn't even saw that coming, also, they break through the walls with a truck...
But besides all the exterior problems, Alexandria also had interiors problem, with all it's inhabitants being untrained (since Alexandria used to be a militar safe-zone, so they never had to fight) and they only managed to stay around because the zombies used to fall and get stuck at that quarry a few miles away
(Sorry any english mistakes by the way, I'm learning).
It would have been easier to follow if you'd started from the bottom and gone up.
The click bait says TERMINUS. Oh you mean the place Carroll single handedly WIPED from existence 😂🤣
due to questionable writing
Carol singlehandedly wiped out is not only a lie but very delusional
putting the sanctuary over alexandria is nuts imo
the kingdom is barely gold. the plumbing was too old which ended up making it fall, and the crops died from a single pest they couldn't get rid of because they grew stuff too close to each other, which is a fatal mistake that didn't happen to hilltop or alexandria, who were taught to farm by actual farmers
It was mainly the plumbing issue and the boilers breaking, causing fires at the worst time. The Kingdom fell to a series of unfortunate events, not due to anything inherently wrong with it.
@TheRealCaptainGold having all the crops near each other is clearly a big issue and it affects them even without a pest around them, which is one of the two main reasons they fell, and the plumbing/boilers breaking is an inherent flaw to a place. you wouldn't buy a house that needs to be half torn down to be repaired so it doesn't destroy the whole building in 10 years or less, and it's even worse in the end of the world because you can't access the parts or the knowledge to do the swap.
this wouldn't be an issue if the place itself could be rebuilt with chimneys and better insulation, but that would've been too hard and the place already had fire damage so there was no time
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That’s fair. I’m just saying what happened within the lore - those were the main reasons for the fall. The fires caused from the boilers breaking and the pipes rupturing left the kingdom ruined. You could argue the crop situation could be worked around via trade. All the communities after the Savior War tended to help each other. For the most part. Things got less cordial after Rick left for some odd reason and they never expanded on it.
Really love this. But MAN do I not like seeing the prison below Woodbury! I think the prison wasn’t capitalized on. The forest surround it could have been felled to bolster defenses and offer more sightlines. The biggest issue is the fence. HOW DID THEY NOT HAVE PEOPLE SMOKING WALKERS ON THAT FENCE 24/7?! Do it in shifts with a sharp branch ffs, prison is the goat for potential with cook aesthetics
Perfect just rolled a joint ❤
finna smoke a few bowls🔥
Nice video.
If you had the choice would you live in one if these communities which would you choose? Or would you solo it?
I'd love to see a video of other communities as well please.
Woodbury, Alexandria or The Kingdom.
All they had to do was take care of the gates and upgrade them making them stronger and sturdier and the prison would've been the last base
As historians mention about siege warfare. Dig ditches. Lots and lots of ditches. Now food may usually not be enough but in some cause they do have enough food and I simply don't understand why they can't build a deep ditch that would inevitably hold off zombies even halt a small horde. Perhaps it be useful against rival communities by having bridge so to lift it and enemy has to waste some time in order to go over the ditch. Deep holes hidden by grass, tree branches and so on here and there around perimeter would also be useful to screw with invading community.
It was was to big, they only stayed mainly on one side, would’ve been way too big to fully secure
Where is the house in which Rick ,Carl and later Michonne chilled after the prison fell?
Ummm that wasn't a community? Even Hershel's farm wasn't here and you expect a regular house? Very retarded!
Not a community. Literally just a house with 3 people briefly living in it. No fences, broken door, and no steady access to food and water. Hardly a shelter at that point.
@@Philliwolf5you don‘t get it do you?💀
I think more TH-camrs should say “fucking” all the time. It’s refreshing. Too many people online censor them self.
I wouldve put kingdom at the bottom of gold/top of silver since it eventually did fall/become unlivable
There’s still more communities. Also yes spin-offs too
I hated the garbage people so much smh. I hated how they talked the most. It was so fun seeing their leader break character and her ego fade after Simon and the saviors took their weapons and started killing them.
can you do ones of these but for the comics and games please 🙏🙏
0:44 what about the union of hope. Oh never mind. 0:54 looking forward to Padre. And Victor Tower. In fear
My own personal headcanon is that the governor killed the vatos
Woodbury should be on the top of gold just because they had a tank
Ranked from Best to Worst in terms of suitable living conditions:
1) Woodbury
2) Alexandria
3)The Commonwealth
4( The Kingdom
%) The Sanctuary
6)The Prison
7)Terminus
Make a video about Daryl vs Rick pleaseee
MVC3 Phoenix Wright Theme in the background
13:08 King easy kill? 😭
Please do fear TWD too bro
Simple: Civic Republic was (or is) best. At least in terms of old world standards.
I mean the reformed Civic Republic (Military) we see at the end of the Rick/Michonne show. Highest living standard for the most people.
Talk about the garbage people being weird. The whisperers were weirder😂😂😂
Why didn't they digged a trench at prison? Why didn't they learned from the first attack? 😭
captain gold so fire
8:57
Budokai music??
Please do the spinoff's