2023 Honda Civic Si - Is This The Perfect Civic?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2023
- There's a sedan, a hatchback, a sport, a touring, an Si and a Type R. With so many options for Honda's eleventh generation Civic which one do you choose? The Civic Si has long been a favourite for those wanting to up their driving engagement and this latest one definitely elevates the Civic. Maybe not as much as the ground pounding track ready Honda Civic Type R but with increased horsepower, sport tuned suspension, 6 speed manual transmission and limited slip differential, this could be the perfect Civic.
There is a catch though which is that the new Civic Si only comes in a 6 speed manual transmission which in my option is perfect, allowing you to to feel even more connected however those not wanting to row their own gears will have to move on perhaps to an Acura Integra which can be optioned with a CVT. @Honda @HondaCanadaInc #civic #civicsi - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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I think the Type R is more for people who will track the car a lot. The Si is more for your everyday driver that wants a good solid start that doesn't break the bank. I honestly might get the Si over the Gr 86
The SI is for sure a better daily than the GR86.
What’d you end up with?
Going for Civic Si just have to find one now lol@@kevinc2332
wish i thought about this
The main buyer of this car is 40-50 year old. Who will then allow their teenage boy to drive it to school and back home. 😂
We love our '23 Si. Feeling the Honda vibes from the '80s and '90s. Everything you need, done really well and nothing you don't.
I’ve got the ‘22 Si and I’m at 55,7xx miles and it’s a blast. Doing a stable 100mph you can still get 30mpg. Backroad driving is spectacular. Really wish it had a little more power but that’s the fun with the aftermarket. Plan on doing a full set of 27WON bolt on parts.
Had a '17 SI. Loved it.Totally fun and reliable. But the seats became very uncomfortable over time. Whereas the seats in my '18 Type R are world class. Throw in no rev hang, a higher rev limit, the hatch, and even better braking, cornering and acceleration, and it was worth it to me to trade up.
That said, the SI is the second best car I have ever owned, after the Type R. Highly recommended.
I love my 23 Si, my #1 complaint is that the U.S version does not get a coolant temp gage. Giving us the blue and red idiot lights for engine coolant temp is total bullshit..
Language
Could not agree anymore. I personally could care less about the lack of a heat steering wheel, fog lights, or shift lights. I want to see my coolant temps, particular when I’m doing some spirited driving
Yea same. Its the main thing missing. Next is the tire pressure. They really cheaped out on those 2 things. Other than that its a great car n fun especially when tuned
Would 25 year
Model fix these missing functions?
I’ve never seen someone so happy to drive a manual transmission. Makes me proud. Lol
TH-cam is FULL of drivers gushing over driving a manual
Sized like the 90s accords now, yet faster and more fuel efficient!
Its actually a bit smaller than the 99 model accord
But better space inside
The new sizes for the new civics will forever be a negative it’s a civic I want a compact car not some accord
Makes sense, Americans themselves are getting bigger
I love how the made it look like the Accord. It's a more serious car now ❤
@@Red-ev8ls not the same size as the accord man.
You can see how smart and sharp it looks compared to the accord boat
I remember having my 1991 Honda Civic Si back in 91’ 🎉
1993 Civic for me, with a JMD B18 engine swap. (the one that rev to 9000 rpm.) One of the most fun cars I've had, right after my current GTI.
That was my first car!!! Loved my EF Hatch
Big ups to Canadian reviews!!! 🔥🔥🔥
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Good video, still keeping my 2015 k24
Love my 9th gen Si!
Great review.
Personally I Like The 2020 Si with The HFP Kit Installed!
Will this come to Europe also ? It's looking like a great daily with a tad bit of performance and driving pleasure
My daily driver is an '18 SI which I bought new for 22k in the US. It gets really good MPG (35-37), handles like a dream, and for whatever reason at around 50k the engine started getting noticeably stronger. It now has 72k with absolutely no problems whatsoever and if I were looking for a daily driver, I would definitely consider the 11th gen SI. Great review!
Go for it and trade in your current Si.
The best compact car under $35K you can buy today
No hatchback in North America. Dealbreaker. I'd rather have a GTI.
@@a_single_white_female a hatchback 23 si would've been great!
I traded a previous gen M240 xDrive for a '22 Si. The Si is actually _more fun_ to drive.
@ribbles1699 thank you for nailing it.
Folks wearing for Hatchback Si is like asking for a lion that lays eggs.
Stack your money up and go and get a TypeR if you want that else, the Si's sedan is Honda's sleekest till date.
I am surprised McDonalds was able to give you an ice cream! That thing is always down. Great video. I don't have the SI but i have the 2023 Civic Ex and i love it. maybe upgrade on the next one.
It's Canada. Things are just run better there.
@@goranyordanoff2472 lucky cuz in the us the ice creams r about half that size
Just don't tune it. Rods, rod bolts, and head studs Do NOT have the margins for more boost.
Great car in stock form though!
Very underrated comment.
But hondata said but KTuner said....
Damn maybe i shouldnt have been running ethanol all this time🥲
Loved the 2012 SI, Loved the 2019 SI and getting the 2024 SI next month! Looking forward to it!
SICKK. Does the sunroof also pop up like that on the 2024 si?
That’s my dream car! One day is going to be mine
Really nice car,would love to have one!!
I spent 2 years searching out a low miles 10thgen '20 si cause in the states the 11th gen skimped on WAY too many features compared to what y'all got in Canada
Just go get a Canadian version plus it’s cheaper technically. That’s what I’m planning on doing since u get more for less. And yes you can do it it isn’t hard u just need to know what your doing when getting a car from a different region.
Honda’s manual is so easy and forgiving to operate that, even someone with no legs can drive one.
I agree, you almost feel like it's an automatic it's so easy to drive.
Kids these days never learned to drive a manual 😂 they don't realize they have a worse driving experience
I wish Honda add the coup version with 2.0T and Automatic transmission (not the CVT, just to feel safe about the increased torque).
Automatic drivers, pee while sitting down
Have 17k on my 22’ si and has been a solid fun daily! Ya dig
This will be like the only new car I get if I actually pick one up
Do you know if the oil dilution problem has been fixed? I want one
The American version dropped the ball hard compared to the Canadian version
16 year old boys couldn’t care less. Seeing that their parents bought it for them and probably have no idea a Canadian model even exists.
Ya, im 16 trying to get my first car, im loving the si but no heated seats is a BIG deal breaker for me unfortunately 😢and im paying for it too so I want everything I need
@@cpt_anthonyIt's cloth seats so you won't really need it. Makes it lighter too. Heated steering wheel is much more important for me personally. I'd still get it!
The Canadian spec Si is a no brainer. Of course you get it.
Thanks Honda for not going with the weird center exit exhaust.
Still jealous we don't have this in the Philippines :(
this is like my childhood dream car. lol 🤣
USA does not get heated steering wheel and a few other options that Canada does.
My 2022 Honda Civic. S I just turned 28000 miles on it. I'm averaging around thirty two thirty four. M p h. Mine is white which I prefer over any other color.
I live in vancouver and have ordered a 25 hybrid camry that i should have before the year 2030. Is this worth getting instead since it's not hybrid but still gets good gas milage. Was getting the camry for reliability, and of course, the 44 mpg
You'll have lot more fun with this one thats for sure. Camry is decent but its no Si :)
I love my 2023 Si only thing that seems weird is how light the clutch is. It’s my first civic but coming from a mini cooper with a 13lb clutch it feels way too light
Yes!! I test drove both an Si and Sport Touring and instantly noticed how light the clutch was. Coming from a 2011 WRX, it seems like everything else at this point is lighter 😅
I’m going to test drive one tomorrow, and I know it’s going to be weird to have a light clutch. I have a 94 boosted eg with a stage 3 quite heavy clutch 😂
I had narrowed my choices down to this and an awd Altima… sadly I had to choose the Altima because my wife refused to let me get a manual transmission car… since she’s the money maker in the household.
Best car ever!
The civic sport can be had with a manual also. Look great too. Probably not as fun as the the Si though. Si competition: Vw gti, but pricey. Wrx base, fuel thirsty.
5:53 Does the 23 Civic not come with the Right-side blindspot camera?
No blindspot cameras. But there are blind spot sensors with an alarm.
My 20 has it and I love it. Can't imagine living without it.
Please Honda bring back the 2 door you’re killing me !
About the specs between the 1 trim level. The specs are much less in the US spec...
Can we compare this with Focus St 2016
My goodness..ill take any color.
I wish theyd make another crx just like this only shorter and lighter 2 seat hatch
They should bring back the CRZ with this powertrain.
How’s the interior space for the si? Would this be ideal for a bigger person?
If you won’t need to seat someone behind you, plenty of space. I’m 6’1”, so not huge, but it has far more than enough room for me.
I’m 5’10” with long legs. When I get in the back seat, after I’ve driven, I have plenty of leg room. There’s more head room in the 23 civics than in the 05 ones, for what it’s worth.
It’s BIG for a civic.
How much do you think the mark up is going to be for the si??
I’ve seen 5k-10k markup. It’s redicoulus. :(
I notice this si has the full digital cockpit with the little car animation , as well as wireless charging where all the other ones I’ve seen have half analog half digital and don’t have the little car animation . Why is that ?
Canadian version gets the goodies
Is this a Canadian version of this vehicle? The U.S. version does not have these features. :(
Yea Canadian
Isn't the 1.5 turbo problematic for Honda's? How about the Civic sport normally aspirated 2.0 hatch with the six speed?
The 1.5L turbo is only a problem if you skimp out on the maintenance or do long maintenance intervals. The 2.0l NA is fine for a fuel economy engine. Shorter maintence intervals will help both engines last longer. Other than that. I drove both the 2018 K20C2 and the 2023 L15CA hard on the streets. No engine issues.
Not really unless u drive it like a idiot and also don’t maintain it like u should since its turbo and requires shorter oil change intervals. I have my 22 tuned on ethanol and have had zero issues but i dont beat on it, do -5k oil, dont boost at low rpm
That cone is $1 with the app thru the summer, apparently.
You know it!
As an owner of a 22' Sport with manual transmission, I'm wondering if the added Hp of the SI is worth the trade in
Id trade it in tbh . Just dont let them hit u over the head for it. But if u got 10k layin around , Get a 9 th gen thats been maintained 😁 Vteccc
It is. The LSD, exhaust, auto rev match is unnatched!
You get more hp, the diff, better suspension, stronger internals
my 2020 veloster n begs to differ ...@@1anre
My last Honda is a 19. Since the 80s I've been with civics. Now Honda cdn prices I've got to say goodbye
You don't count the oil used to grill the chicken?
Brian would you pick an SI or WRX manual for a daily?
If you live somewhere where it snows, I would personally suggest the wrx. However if the weather isn’t a factor, choose the si. For daily commutes, can’t go wrong with either one. (My personal opinion.) Now if you’re looking to race and take on a track, idk which one to suggest lol.
200hp is not quite enough nowadays with many EV on the road. SI with mark up while WRX with mark down, they are about the same price. I love my '22 WRX.
@@rcstreet personally, I’m with you on the wrx as the elements where I live are pretty harsh but I disagree on the 200hp not being enough for just regular daily driving.
@@shudigg2023 WRX is atrocious on the eyes.
AWD capability or not, I'd rather go with something else
@@1anre i agree, it definitely needs some cosmetic work. But Im only going by the 2 options given by the OP.
I want you to do video on hood fans for kitchen
I wish the Si came with a hatchback.
Get an integra
The Sport Touring is pretty much an Si hatchback. You can get it in a manual as well I believe.
20 less hp @@desimo147
Not getting the SI until the US version comes with all the extra's the Canadian version does.
The problem with this car is that most dealers want $36k for it with all the added on dealer installed options. That puts it at the range of a standard plus Tesla Model 3. Is this better and faster than Model 3?
It’s apples and oranges. So hard to compare between gas and EV.
Guaranteed the honda will be on the road a lot longer.
Honda Civic SI vs Honda Civic LX Sport Manual with 2.00 Liter 4 cylinders....which one is better ?
Si all day
@@1anre But this guy like Honda Civic Hatchback Manual with 2.0 liter 4 cylinders.....SI cost him too much...th-cam.com/video/ijqpk2GrazU/w-d-xo.html
I just bought an Elantra N line which is a direct competitor to the Civic Si even down to the red stitching. Both look like fun cars to drive.
Dang I'm sry to hear man 😢
N or N Line? The N Line is not an Si competitor.
@@mhuppman72The Elantra N Line is comparable to the Civic Si (both are ~200hp). Where the Elantra N (~275hp) is comparable to the Civic Type R (~300hp). I'd still take Honda over Hyundai.
@@prepare3envelopes If I had to choose between Elantra N and Type R, I'd choose the N simply because it is significantly cheaper for similar performance. I'd have to do more research for sure but it seems pretty solid from what I've looked at
@@youraveragegamer8832 N is definitely cheaper, especially with dealers marking up the R. Also take in to account depreciation, at the R will do better there than the N.
No heated seats wow
Went to the dealership here in aventura south Florida. They were going to give me $8000 for my 2014 civic si coupe which I currently have the title for….with $2000 down payment on top. So I’m giving $10k and they said I’m financing a remaining $31,480….so close to $600 a Month. Bro that’s a joke. I’m still paying OVER msrp. America is getting out of hand with everything not just dealers. It truly is. So sad. I can get it but its not the point…that is just a huge rip off. Then sell my car for $16k or more. 😂😂😂😂 I left.
A couple other reviews have stated to get the sport instead of the si. Save a few bux and the 20hp isnt all that significant. Hmmmm
My first choice would be the Sport Sedan with a manual, but that’s not an option.
I looked for a Si, but all the dealers that had one wanted 3-4k over MSRP. I refuse to pay over sticker. Ended up just settling for a Sport with CVT
Same here but the biggest culprit is the dealerships allowing out of state purchases. That widens the net of people who will ACTUALLY pay over sticker for a Civic. I live in the suburbs outside of Philadelphia and someone from NEW YORK put a deposit on a Civic Si that was in transit to my local Honda dealership. I go to my local Mazda and Subaru dealership and they don't except out of state purchases. Thats good for the locals, shame on my Honda dealership. I would have bought one if I had a chance to drive it! They are so greedy they can't even let it touch there showroom floor before selling it to someone who will never go to there dealership after purchase.
Lol
@@ramonbriones4487 Yea, it's so hilarious one of the few manual cars still available are scarce and overpriced 🙄
You missed out and will have your jaw open anytime an Si passes you.
Should've picked the Si up and known you had one of the rare Civics around.
Nothing like dealer markup in Canada.
You guys in America are really getting shafted for real
@@1anre I see the Si's go by. They do look sharp in certain colors but my jaw certainly does not drop ahah. It's just a sporty civic. Buying a car without driving it is a little crazy to me. I drove the new Civic sport and the ride was mediocre and interior was overhyped. Had to get in the Si before moving forward. I test drove the WRX and although that is more expensive it was exhilarating to drive! I love the sound too! If the money is right one day I either would get a civic si for economical fun or go WRX for year round fun!
Stick shift is the best. I hope Honda never offers this in automatic.
You can't really buy this car for 35k. Dealers here in Edmonton charging up to 43k.
Yeah definitely dont pay the extra mark up… dealers are out of their minds.
You’d think Canada would have a gouging law to protect consumers from these types of markups.
damn bro bought mine in lethbridge and it was only 37k :(
Having the Si for 5 months now. Love the driving but man so many many rattles inside. Radio , pillars , inside doors , inside seatbelts ajuster rattle , very desapointed for thoose.. does’nt feel like a new car . My old 65000km had less rattles . Hopefully honda will fix that ,
How is the clutch holding up?
@@JT1652 car still new so cluch is all good for now
Do you use the auto rev match?
@@1anre nahh
@@1anreI do. Why would you not? It’s only on the downshift btw.
I want this car but I gotta learn how to drive manual first
learn on the Si, you got it
Waiting to finish my car payment, debating on 23 Or 20 19
I would love to sell my accord and buy the SI, but I never learned how to drive standard, will have to learn how
Its not hard. Especially in the civic. I bought my old 350z and didnt know how to drive it. I practiced and within afew days i was out driving on the streets. Id stall once in awhile but thats part of the learning process. Its so much more enjoyable to drive a manual over a quicker automatic car. The only bummer is if u drive in a lot of traffic often cuz that can get annoying. The 11th si can be very fun and it loves to be driven aggressively on curvy roads
@chorizojuice Really only a few days it took for you to learn?
@@chorizojuice Thanks for letting me know, I feel more motivated now
@@jclar7210 it is easy. Some people get discouraged cuz they try to learn on a harder car. The 350z was tough but i didnt give up. The civic si is so much easier. I was even teaching my wife on it and she was getting the hang of it. Plus it has hill assist which helps hold the car from rolling when ur on a hill so u have time to work the pedals and rev match which on a downshift it revs it to the correct rpm for u. Its almost like cheating
@chorizojuice The last time I tried to learn how to drive stick shift was like 34 years ago actually, I was a teenager, my friend had a small Datsun pickup truck standard, it didn't go well, I gave up lol
too bad canadian version doesnt come wit blue color n thats ma fav color
Boost Blue is coming for the 24 model year!
If you want the sedan over the hatchback, the manual, extra performance or the tweaked 1.5L turbo and LSD, by all means get the Si. If you hsve a Mexican friend ask if he should getvthis, tell him Si, senor! 😂
The 11th Generation Si is a lot nicer and much improved over the previous 10th Generation, and much more amenities, especially the Bose Stereo.
The sunroof is nice, but if it's my choice, I would prefer to delete it if I could do so, for the onproved weight savings, structural rigidity, and less potential mechanical and water leak problems when it gets older, plus the vulnerability of the glass bring damaged.
Ditto for the power adjust seats, one more thing to go wrong. Like the Sport Sedan or Hatchback, it has all the basic goodies without the extra cost items I don't veany, or can do without. Like leather seat I like, but don't have to have, and it's a given that the Si is goingbto have the traditional cloth logi seats, as dies yhe Type R.
It's also nice that the Si has the slanted fron fascis nose fromnthe Hatchbacks islnstead of the normal squared edge piece from the Sedan trims.
IMHO, I don't likevred cards in general or red keather interior. But yhe Si seats are fine. O eould orefer the Aegean Blue Netallic, Sonic Greal Pearl or the Orange, exclusively with the Si that looks fire with the full HPD add on package.
It's not going to happen, but ideally, the Si should have the detuned 2.0L tirbo from the Accord Sport snd this rngine should be in the Touring Sefan and Sport Touring Hatchback. As well bas in a Sport Touring trim for the HR-V.
What irks me is that the black exterior emblems would look great on the Si, but you can't get matching black trimmed Si badges. The alternative is to just replace the front, rear and horn button Honda H-Mark emblems eithbthe nicer JDM style ones that cone on the Type R thatvisvavailable aftermarket.
Along with certain OEM and aftermarket accessories, like anodized aluminum tire valve stem caps, black metal license plate frames and vlear covers, legsl snoke tint windows, maybe the HPD packagr, nice dashcam, or performance mods, there's not much else I would add to this
i love my 2023 si🩷
Now pushing almost $40,000 plus tax…ouch. Would be worth it if it had the 2.0T. If they bring the Civic hybrid here…
Crazy i bought a 19' type r new for 3k more than this si. Glad i bought one when i did but the si is over priced. Glad I have my 8th gen SI and S2k. I hope Honda can somehow make electric cars fun
You are very lucky. Here very used type rs are low 30k. Very low mileage fk8 are closer to the new type rs msrp. The fl5 is closer or over 60k
I wish the Si came in a hatchback version.
the integra a spec is a si sedan.
Nah, will look weird. Leave that for the Type R
This guy gets a lot of hate for being a homosexual, but what does it really matter?
His videos are still entertaining.
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6 reasons 💪💪💪
wish it has more power. that can actually compete with the gti
hyundai n line
this how Silva Boss Panden look like in western view...this Honda if you lives in US is like Honda with front conversion Dodge Charger
I want this car, but the APR is just so expensive.
What %?
I don't think that the US spec Civic Si has the heated seats or steering wheel.
I have a 2019 Si sedan, cashed out and no payments. I’m sorry but I’m not paying $60k for a Type R. Which is slightly faster, if it was $10k more than the Si, sure. Not double, not worth it 3:29
What happened to 2 door civics?
At least they still have a manual transmission
A couple years ago I test drove a new civic si. I was so disappointed. It handled very good, but thats where it ended. No torque at all, no pull, nothing. I hit 5 grand and could hardly tell, pushed in the clutch, and then came the rev hang. The worst I've ever seen. Needless to say I returned to the dealer handed them the keys....on to the next.
I got a 2023 si and I don’t have the shift lights wtf I live in California
No hatchback in North America. Dealbreaker. I'd rather have a GTI.
YOU GOT LUMBAR SUPPORT IN THAT SI ?
Priced gouged beyond belief! I can’t wait till the dealers all go out of business! And stop paying 10k + for vehicles.. that is why this shit continues
I want to love the 11th gen Civic Si, but Honda failed us. When Honda decided to put a economy car engine in the Si, killed it it for me. The L15 is a weak engine, with a flawed build that will not allow Si fans to modify this engine without major consequences. Be warned the 1.5t (L15) is a economy engine with weaker internals. I went 10th Gen Accord 2.0t because I don't want to deal with the head gasket issue that the 1.5t owners are seeing.
Waiting for a mid cycle refresh to see if they fix some of the many complaints there is about this car.
vanilla iceream vanilla blend cAr
But Muh leaking cylinder head gasket⁉🤣
Why pay for the type r when you can get an si and boost it lol
The Si is dead, there’s no more Si this is just an high end Civic, that’s all
1.5! That sucks
It would have been my ideal car, only if it had Type-R's engine that's tuned for more efficiency for street use. Instead, the1.5T has the efficiency but not enough fun factor to justify Si's wonderful chassis. My less powerful 2017 LX Sedan with 6MT is more fun then the turbo Si, simply because it had K20 engine (..Type-R has the turbo version of this engine). I'm convinced that the 10th generation Civic Sedan, with the 6MT, K20 engine and curb weigh of about 2700lb is the best Civic ever made. Hopefully, the kids pick up on this and use it as a gateway into the weekend track scene.
@@jackiemcmillan8390 it’s got some internals to be an all round better engine, but virtually the same. The Turbo doesn’t make this k20 a better engine. Just more power.
You're wrong there.
The 1.5T really messes other cars up while dailying it. It's brisk and gives you cheap grins while driving on the streets
How can you expect the TypeR powerplaht for the bargain price of the Si? You humans are simply insatiable
The 11th gen Si ticks all the right boxes fir a fun 4-door daily.
You can't list 6 cars from 2022-2023 that are in its price range that beat it. I'd wait
@@1anre It's not 1.5T that make 11th Si, it's the beefed-up front suspension/drive axel, multi link rear suspension and durable 6MT transmission. That being said, 3 cars come to mind with similar traits. At about 10% more, Elantra N will destroy Si while still returning good economy (6MT version), VW GTi for less and for significantly less (but not as quick) Sentra which is less then 3/5 the price of Si, but still come with 6MT, Multi Link rear and has a racing serious dedicated to this car. Japanese (especially Honda) are operating in a bubble which works for the clueless buyers.
@@user-dj5fu5on7n But you can list up to 3 at least then?
@@user-dj5fu5on7n So you mean the Si is the best in its class for a 4-door?
I prefer the civic over the weird looking accords.
Same here. They look like boats now
sadly the european hybrid hatch is better in every way.