It makes sense to me. The universe isn't even very old (13.7 billion years) yet we're finding Ultramassive black holes such as Ton 618 which is a staggering 66 billion solar masses. How could a black hole have gained so much mass, so quickly? Just today we have a new verification of a supermassive black hole at 38 billion solar masses.
If you remember that at one point the universe was a dense hot soup of quarks and gluons, then it cooled down enough so electrons could interact with them and form atoms, and atoms are dust a solid, so the instant this soup cooled down enough to be atoms they gained the higgs boson particle and mass was created in that instant, and if most of the atoms formed from a soup they are together at the instant they gain mass, then all that mass in one place can only do one thing, be a black hole.. so if most of the mass in the universe formed at once all together it never had a chance to be dust or become a star or asteroid, it was instantly crushed by all the mass surrounding it into super massive black holes, and the only reason we are travelling at speed through the universe, is because between those instant blackholes with mass billions of times larger than stellar ones probably most of the universes mass in total is because dust was trapped in Lagrange points between them in a tug of war and that dust is eventually pulled away from one blackhole by either a bigger one or closer one pulling it towards itself as it travells away from the other and the other one pulling back on the dust gave the dust angular momentum as it was pulled towards the winning black hole which is all dust needs to land in orbit around it instead of falling in , then that dust orbiting the first instant super massive black holes are what was left to form galaxies.. and this is probably why cmb photos show it patchy, patchy blotches are more dense so those areas are probably the black holes that caused that ..
@@4kays160 pretty sure that’s what primordial black holes which are an understood theory and nothing like this (and are wildly different from this cause that’s what was possible possibly) but as far as we know there are a lot of principles we do understand that suggest that’s not actually how the early universe worked
@@Souledex Primordial Black Holes could form as soon as the end of the INFLATION epoc, almost inmediatly after the BigBang itself. .This ones would only happen after hundred of millons of years (post-C.M.B.); since it requires neutral hidrogen gas to "move" (fall) distances of many light_years to concentrate enough to create thid pseudo-star (solar system sized... mere light_hours). -> Only THEN the black hole at the core would form, taking still millons of years to grow.
You inspire me so much! I am currently studying in university for nuclear engineering and I am really passionate about this subject. I look forward to watching more of your videos and possibly learning from you!
Your comment warms my heart 😊 Thank you very much! I wish you all the best in your studies and career - I know it is a challenging and rewarding field!
fun fact: the entirety of the black hole's shadow (aka the dark spere) is basicly one large mouth . . and altho that would make for a realy weird character . . it would be more fitting concidering these objects seem to defy logic in more than one way
I wouldn't call it a stretch at all. Purely theoretical, of course, but the math works, and it's a very functional cosmological hypothesis in that it solves more problems than it raises. The only question they raise is how the band Soundgarden predicted such a possible future of cosmological studies. 😂😂
And if this found out to be true that each supermassive was once a star then that technically makes each galaxy in the universe just a bigger solar system
It's not only the animation that's awesome, that music plays a very important role in the video. :D Also, note that in this "older" videos, they said "dark matter" as a binding / encircling force, but in the more recent videos, dark matter is what pushes everything away.
I always just assumed in the early universe the density of stars was that they collided almost daily and that blackholes must have done the same and grew super massive.. the more you have in a confined space the more you bump into stuff.. this is why im not a scientist 😂
@@StonedDragons i mean at the exact moment the big bang cooled enough so that electrons could join in with quarks and gluons and firm actual atoms, in that very microsecond that happened everything changed from being a hot charged soup to being atoms, and because they were a hot charged soup expansion of the universe would not have seperated much of the soup out into the universe as it expanded, the soup would have stayed together as a soup.. but as soon as atoms formed and the higs boson is created giving each atom mass, the mass would have been very dense where the soup was a microsecond ago, so most of the universe as it turned into an atom and obtained mass was together and all that mass in one spot would have instantly created a black hole billions maybe trillions of times larger than stellar black holes, instantly.. and after considering this ive always assumed that this mustve happened in patches where some areas had thicker soup thus more mass forming potential, leaving thinner sections in-between areas with supper massive black holes surrounding them and all the mass trapped between the Lagrange points between those black holes is probably what the universe we see today is made from, the dust between the black holes trapped in a tug of war between them until they drift further apart and the dust is captured by either the bigger one or the closest one and is pulled into its orbit , thus the building blocks of galaxies... well thats what ive always assumed, and the more i think of it the more it makes sense
Apparently "quasi-star" is the preferred term, but "black hole star" is also acceptable, and these were first proposed in the 1960's. But it's only with James Webb that we have a chance of looking far enough back into the universe to see them. Nothing else we've had up until that had enough resolution to even have a chance of seeing far enough back.
Likely born of primordial black holes at the beginning of the universe after the cloudy stuffs cooled down. There would have been such massive amounts of matter yet unbound for these black holes to suck in with most of it ending up in orbit, that is for black holes that didnt imediatly eat themselves to death; They would grow to a balanced point between its mass, the mass of the matter it is eating, and the diference between pressure of hawking radiation pushing out and gravity pulling stuff in. A lot of the orbiting matter might even avoid falling in which might be what makes it possible in the first place. I think black hole stars are more likely to exist in the beginning then naked primordial black holes.
They're possible mathematically. Ive heard Neil Tyson and another TH-camr Physicist Dylan J. Dance, he said its possible but its mostly likely a more boring explanation. He said this is just one of obviously many theories. Its a badass theory tho, for sure. He also agreed with you that the visuals were fantastic.
What if...some galaxies were born of a black hole star fostering a super massive black hole that burps hard enough to upset the balance enough for the star to spin itself apart and scatter. As it grows into the size of a galaxy and turns all spirally, angular momentum would be preserved and the spinning would slow enough for the hot gas to birth new stars and capture rocks. I can imagine, being around a black hole's ergosphere, all that matter would be spinning pretty feck'n quick :3
According some sources on the internet, there are some black holes that reach 0⁰K and even fewer reach negative Kelvin. For a quick fact "Nothing can be colder than absolute zero (0K)! Negative Kelvin temperatures are hotter than all positive temperatures - even hotter than infinite temperature." And yet some (less than 1% of 1% of black holes) can reach Negative Kelvin because of the strange fact about Black Holes that they do NOT follow natural reality, and at their core (or Singularity) is where ALL matter, light, energy, EVERYTHING is compressed down to an infinitely small point, that defies all reality and laws and will create an infinite amount of heat, cold, and energy, that is not possible to EVER be made by ANY sentient species for an EXTREME amount of years, probably close to the Heat-Death of the UNIVERSE is when some kind of sentient life will figure out how to utilize or MAYBE create that Blackhole's energy
in order to reach 0 kelvin, a black hole would have to be completely and totally stationary, which is impossible (and no black holes do this even if it were possible). in order to reach negative kelvin, a black hole would have to have negative motion, which is so impossible it doesn't even make any sense. there's not really any amount of rule-breaking you can do to achieve that level of nonsensicalness, and therefore this information is almost certainly false. "some sources on the internet" are almost never good sources
here's a tip for improvement: Speak into your mic, rather than having it 3 feet away. Not only will you be more easily heard, you'll also not sound like you're speaking through a tube.
It makes sense to me. The universe isn't even very old (13.7 billion years) yet we're finding Ultramassive black holes such as Ton 618 which is a staggering 66 billion solar masses. How could a black hole have gained so much mass, so quickly? Just today we have a new verification of a supermassive black hole at 38 billion solar masses.
Everything was relatively close together back then. Hence a greater chance of denser clumps forming into this
If you remember that at one point the universe was a dense hot soup of quarks and gluons, then it cooled down enough so electrons could interact with them and form atoms, and atoms are dust a solid, so the instant this soup cooled down enough to be atoms they gained the higgs boson particle and mass was created in that instant, and if most of the atoms formed from a soup they are together at the instant they gain mass, then all that mass in one place can only do one thing, be a black hole.. so if most of the mass in the universe formed at once all together it never had a chance to be dust or become a star or asteroid, it was instantly crushed by all the mass surrounding it into super massive black holes, and the only reason we are travelling at speed through the universe, is because between those instant blackholes with mass billions of times larger than stellar ones probably most of the universes mass in total is because dust was trapped in Lagrange points between them in a tug of war and that dust is eventually pulled away from one blackhole by either a bigger one or closer one pulling it towards itself as it travells away from the other and the other one pulling back on the dust gave the dust angular momentum as it was pulled towards the winning black hole which is all dust needs to land in orbit around it instead of falling in , then that dust orbiting the first instant super massive black holes are what was left to form galaxies.. and this is probably why cmb photos show it patchy, patchy blotches are more dense so those areas are probably the black holes that caused that ..
@@4kays160 pretty sure that’s what primordial black holes which are an understood theory and nothing like this (and are wildly different from this cause that’s what was possible possibly) but as far as we know there are a lot of principles we do understand that suggest that’s not actually how the early universe worked
And Phoenix A is estimated to be over 100 billion solar masses
@@Souledex Primordial Black Holes could form as soon as the end of the INFLATION epoc, almost inmediatly after the BigBang itself.
.This ones would only happen after hundred of millons of years (post-C.M.B.); since it requires neutral hidrogen gas to "move" (fall) distances of many light_years to concentrate enough to create thid pseudo-star (solar system sized... mere light_hours).
-> Only THEN the black hole at the core would form, taking still millons of years to grow.
You inspire me so much! I am currently studying in university for nuclear engineering and I am really passionate about this subject. I look forward to watching more of your videos and possibly learning from you!
Your comment warms my heart 😊 Thank you very much! I wish you all the best in your studies and career - I know it is a challenging and rewarding field!
I love your openness to new information and curiosity. These videos are very enjoyable
Thanks so much!
Love your content man, hope your channel blows up in the future!
Thanks so much for watching! I appreciate that!
fun fact:
the entirety of the black hole's shadow (aka the dark spere) is basicly one large mouth . . and altho that would make for a realy weird character . . it would be more fitting concidering these objects seem to defy logic in more than one way
"blows up"
Heh.
@@UnsoberIdiot you mean "that coment from 4months ago" XD
I wouldn't call it a stretch at all. Purely theoretical, of course, but the math works, and it's a very functional cosmological hypothesis in that it solves more problems than it raises.
The only question they raise is how the band Soundgarden predicted such a possible future of cosmological studies. 😂😂
black hole sun, wont you come, and wash away the rain
black hole sun, wont you come, wont you come, wont you come
Thank gosh I wasn’t the only who thought of that
These objects are also known as Quasi Stars
That’s a cool name!
And if this found out to be true that each supermassive was once a star then that technically makes each galaxy in the universe just a bigger solar system
It's not only the animation that's awesome, that music plays a very important role in the video. :D
Also, note that in this "older" videos, they said "dark matter" as a binding / encircling force, but in the more recent videos, dark matter is what pushes everything away.
That's dark energy - dark matter creates large gravity wells.
I always just assumed in the early universe the density of stars was that they collided almost daily and that blackholes must have done the same and grew super massive.. the more you have in a confined space the more you bump into stuff.. this is why im not a scientist 😂
I mean, you aren't wrong either. You had allot more excessively large stars producing black holes at the same time and thus all of that also happened.
@@StonedDragons i mean at the exact moment the big bang cooled enough so that electrons could join in with quarks and gluons and firm actual atoms, in that very microsecond that happened everything changed from being a hot charged soup to being atoms, and because they were a hot charged soup expansion of the universe would not have seperated much of the soup out into the universe as it expanded, the soup would have stayed together as a soup.. but as soon as atoms formed and the higs boson is created giving each atom mass, the mass would have been very dense where the soup was a microsecond ago, so most of the universe as it turned into an atom and obtained mass was together and all that mass in one spot would have instantly created a black hole billions maybe trillions of times larger than stellar black holes, instantly.. and after considering this ive always assumed that this mustve happened in patches where some areas had thicker soup thus more mass forming potential, leaving thinner sections in-between areas with supper massive black holes surrounding them and all the mass trapped between the Lagrange points between those black holes is probably what the universe we see today is made from, the dust between the black holes trapped in a tug of war between them until they drift further apart and the dust is captured by either the bigger one or the closest one and is pulled into its orbit , thus the building blocks of galaxies... well thats what ive always assumed, and the more i think of it the more it makes sense
Never ask if we dont like the video , theres videos on other channels for them.. no body dislikes a kursgesagt video its not possible..
Lol! Glad you liked it!
Somewhere out there, Soundgarden is saying "Told ya so"
That will be loud universe because the sound will always travels in gas 😂😂 4:53
To me it seems like the only way to explain super massive black holes, then again, I don't study space
didn't know that the workers of a nuclear reactor can also react
Apparently "quasi-star" is the preferred term, but "black hole star" is also acceptable, and these were first proposed in the 1960's. But it's only with James Webb that we have a chance of looking far enough back into the universe to see them. Nothing else we've had up until that had enough resolution to even have a chance of seeing far enough back.
Likely born of primordial black holes at the beginning of the universe after the cloudy stuffs cooled down. There would have been such massive amounts of matter yet unbound for these black holes to suck in with most of it ending up in orbit, that is for black holes that didnt imediatly eat themselves to death; They would grow to a balanced point between its mass, the mass of the matter it is eating, and the diference between pressure of hawking radiation pushing out and gravity pulling stuff in. A lot of the orbiting matter might even avoid falling in which might be what makes it possible in the first place. I think black hole stars are more likely to exist in the beginning then naked primordial black holes.
They're possible mathematically. Ive heard Neil Tyson and another TH-camr Physicist Dylan J. Dance, he said its possible but its mostly likely a more boring explanation. He said this is just one of obviously many theories. Its a badass theory tho, for sure. He also agreed with you that the visuals were fantastic.
What if...some galaxies were born of a black hole star fostering a super massive black hole that burps hard enough to upset the balance enough for the star to spin itself apart and scatter. As it grows into the size of a galaxy and turns all spirally, angular momentum would be preserved and the spinning would slow enough for the hot gas to birth new stars and capture rocks. I can imagine, being around a black hole's ergosphere, all that matter would be spinning pretty feck'n quick :3
Wonderfull and nightmarish material.....
Science is amazing
please keep on reacting to those videos!
According some sources on the internet, there are some black holes that reach 0⁰K and even fewer reach negative Kelvin.
For a quick fact "Nothing can be colder than absolute zero (0K)! Negative Kelvin temperatures are hotter than all positive temperatures - even hotter than infinite temperature." And yet some (less than 1% of 1% of black holes) can reach Negative Kelvin because of the strange fact about Black Holes that they do NOT follow natural reality, and at their core (or Singularity) is where ALL matter, light, energy, EVERYTHING is compressed down to an infinitely small point, that defies all reality and laws and will create an infinite amount of heat, cold, and energy, that is not possible to EVER be made by ANY sentient species for an EXTREME amount of years, probably close to the Heat-Death of the UNIVERSE is when some kind of sentient life will figure out how to utilize or MAYBE create that Blackhole's energy
in order to reach 0 kelvin, a black hole would have to be completely and totally stationary, which is impossible (and no black holes do this even if it were possible). in order to reach negative kelvin, a black hole would have to have negative motion, which is so impossible it doesn't even make any sense. there's not really any amount of rule-breaking you can do to achieve that level of nonsensicalness, and therefore this information is almost certainly false. "some sources on the internet" are almost never good sources
here's a tip for improvement: Speak into your mic, rather than having it 3 feet away. Not only will you be more easily heard, you'll also not sound like you're speaking through a tube.
Thanks for the tip!
awesome video, but could tou raise the volume of you and or lower the volume of the videos you react to?
Soundgarden.
Man they missed out. They could have called this a zombie star. A star that’s dead and yet…..still moving and able to be seen? Eh?!! 🤔🤔
always looking to what .. sorry it was just so quiet XD..
wow it is really huge good thing you reacted on someones video.
Low audio on mic ... please balance mic with foreground video 🎚
Wow so cool but actually hot because the star is hot 10:34 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ask me any question as long as it is on 9th grade levle some on even university
Your sound is super low :(
Yo mama.
10x
he said 690 like 69 with a 0 lol (Kurzgesagt)