Death Guard 10th Ed Competitive Fundamentals Part Three: Characters Deep Dive

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  • @johnhildenbrand2642
    @johnhildenbrand2642 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That Rhino in the updates slide was fucking awesome man, kudos to the lad/lass who painted that thing up

  • @austinstate
    @austinstate ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Timestamps:
    Typhus: 4:04
    Mortarion: 11:02
    Lord of Virulence: 17:02
    Lord of Contagion: 21:18
    Chaos Lords (both kinds): 25:12
    Terminator Sorcerer: 30:05
    Daemon Prince on foot: 33:38
    Daemon Prince w/ Wings: 37:07
    Malignant Plaugecaster: 39:56
    Foul Blightspawn: 43:14
    Biologus Putrifier (AKA the best Foetid Virion 💯): 46:10
    Tallyman: 50:29
    Noxious Blightbringer: 53:02
    Icon Bearer: 55:35
    Plague Surgeon (I'd say RIP, but this dude was dead in 9th too. Please GW, allow him to join terminators, pleease): 58:54

  • @bugggit
    @bugggit ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Picked up death guard at end of 9th and this series couldn’t have come at a more perfect time to get back into the hobby. Listened to the last few videos a few times each now as I pick up more stuff on each listen.

  • @hobbithubby5076
    @hobbithubby5076 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    GW missed an opportunity to buff the LoC by allowing him an aura that procs a second contagion effect. Imagine a unit that stacks the -ws/bs and -save?

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be an awesome ability

    • @william3958
      @william3958 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What if the next detachment doesn’t have extra contagions tho

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@william3958 hopefully by then it's our codex and finally a chance to rewrite the LoCs rules to something more impactful

    • @lcgmaniac5270
      @lcgmaniac5270 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or something like before, just +3 inch to his aura. Then we could stack with the enhancement for a +6 inch aura. Deep strike him round 2 to get a 12 inch aura or round 3 to get a 15 inch aura. That alone would make him great. But I agree that he does nothing right now :/

  • @thorgod22
    @thorgod22 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If the plague surgeon could take a page out of the tech marine rulebook and get lone operator if near a unit and be allowed to heal or resurrect in any unit. Would be great to chase terminators around.

  • @Monstein
    @Monstein ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have found I really like the Chaos lord in termiantor armor for my 3rd terminator character. With the extra contagion range he feels really useful.

  • @TheButlerboy89
    @TheButlerboy89 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve been watching all of these Aiden!
    Thankyou so much for putting it all out there. Fantastic quality from someone who clearly loves the faction! 💚

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the kind words i do indeed love this faction very much :D

    • @TheButlerboy89
      @TheButlerboy89 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      May I ask you to confirm something please?
      You mention about the Tallyman not being able to do his CP farm while in a transport which is correct.
      But if you see page 11 in the Rules Commentary under ‘reserve units’ the last sentence reads as if the tallyman can CP farm while he’s off the board in reserves!? 😂

  • @pewdiepievn8986
    @pewdiepievn8986 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i think the surgeon should have ability to heal any model in our army as a techmarine because our vehicles actually are living creatures along with lone op if near daemon unit

  • @CrashTheChao
    @CrashTheChao ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really love the Icon Bearer because since their ability applies to the ENTIRE UNIT they love hanging out with their Bell buddy so they can spread their -2LD further as well. Chaos Space Marines will reconsider their Dark Pacts (possibly)

  • @memnactor
    @memnactor ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just started watching and I'm as excited as a child on Christmas Eve.

  • @christophergorman6431
    @christophergorman6431 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chaos lord in termie armor is sooo sick with blightlords, just park their ass at midpoint and force em to do something about it

  • @Lee-xl4tw
    @Lee-xl4tw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just started playing Death Guard :) thank you for an indepth view!! awesome video.

  • @tacotots_132
    @tacotots_132 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great info man! Thank you!

  • @Deathguarddave
    @Deathguarddave ปีที่แล้ว +6

    great job Aiden with this series!

  • @austinstate
    @austinstate ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Heyyyyy Aidan, this was a great video! Can you do us a favor? In videos like this, it'd be great to add Chapters to this video to make it easier for people to find the information they want about the specific characters. I'd love to reference this video with the specific timestamps for people when they have questions on the Facebook Group/Discord/Reddit about certain characters and whether or not they're worth taking, and it'd be easier to find those specific timestamps if you had chapters set up for each character.
    As for what I'd like to hear next; I'd love to hear more about your ideas and examples of how your tournament list is evolving post-dataslate.

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey! Thanks for the feedback and the timestamps in your comment i have added chapters to the video hope this is better and ill try to remember this going forward! - Aiden

    • @austinstate
      @austinstate ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deathguarddisgustinglyresilien I look forward to sharing portions of this video with our community for months to come. :)

  • @Prometheus_Williams
    @Prometheus_Williams ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent work Aiden. Thank you so much.

  • @dragma907
    @dragma907 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We're absolutely spoiled for choice now, and at those points you can choose a lot

  • @Sikag-fj5cy
    @Sikag-fj5cy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the in depth look, you've seriously helped me become a better player (especially with DG) Thanks for the help and good work!

  • @Borhamus
    @Borhamus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need this series to learn more.
    Im new on here, learning w40k, and i just love Death Guard theme, even if itsnot in his best shape(as you say) i wanna learn to play this factions, just look badass.
    I really trying to push the Miasmic Malignifier to the table to morph the map to my favor, its really intresting 😂.
    Right now im playing only 1k armys cos need to learn all about the game but, wanna say, thanks for the time on make this videos, i really apresiated.

  • @hobbithubby5076
    @hobbithubby5076 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this series. Looking forward to the rest of it.

  • @TheEr910
    @TheEr910 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great deep dive

  • @alextrollming6588
    @alextrollming6588 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have picked up a big knight with a 10 man pm unit in melee after the buffs with the biologus + strat combo to sustained and lethal on 5+

  • @nikolashug4619
    @nikolashug4619 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for these oxford tier death guard lectures. Who needs over powered rules when you can learn the ins and out from the best. Cheers mate. One thought maybe do an addendum video for balanced dataslates to kinda speak on how this changes your opinion on things in the future. Just a thought. Keep it up and have a wonderful day

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Thanks for the kind words! Yeah i'm planning on making an addendum to the first video to take in the new rules from the balance dataslate!

  • @matthewpennebaker1254
    @matthewpennebaker1254 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another excellent deep dive, sir!
    I always pick up another new nuance i wasn't taking advantage of every time i watch one.
    To touch on your point about un-attached characters. I gave party bus a try this weekend and realized i wasn't ready to manage so many activations efficiently -- but I'd love to go over some real world examples of how you'd attack a situation with any given unit, especially good characters. Set up a board, put some kind of normal game situation into motion and lets break down strategies of death guard against .
    Who are our best matchups? worst matchups? Hows a deployment look against them? When should you deepstrike vs not
    Love to pick your brain more

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey! I'm hoping to make a series focused on faction by faction specific match ups! Just need a bit more free time but i'm hoping ill get there soon!

  • @MsTrollzor
    @MsTrollzor ปีที่แล้ว

    I consider myself a DG fiend reping them since I started Warhammer with them in 8th and I thought I've thought of everything. Until you mentioned the BS using his advance weapon for the rhino to action is fucking brilliant

  • @ZeckShuck01
    @ZeckShuck01 ปีที่แล้ว

    With Random secondaries and having gone first; My unit of Plague marines with a Noxious Blightbringer and an Icon bearer I was able to charge with the unit and their Land Raider, with 1CP to reroll the charge was able to max out 'Behind Enemy Lines' turn one and my opponent was unable to take me off of his homefield objective for the entire game.

  • @revenant7492
    @revenant7492 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job. Any chance you would consider doin a brief vid on lists you're tryin out? Maybe a series of how its changing as you play more games...

  • @themegagromp
    @themegagromp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the content keep it coming

  • @TheBlightspawn
    @TheBlightspawn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great episode, best DG content this side if Barbarus.

  • @JumpyWizard00
    @JumpyWizard00 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep the good advice coming bud! :)

  • @Gumby777
    @Gumby777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the insights, very helpful

  • @EnginesofNurgle-ku9ug
    @EnginesofNurgle-ku9ug ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree that the loc is a little bad in terms of movement, since he’s not great at killing two things, but what he does touch is just dead with deathshroud, & it forces my opponent to pour into him.

  • @marcarthur100
    @marcarthur100 ปีที่แล้ว

    ty ur work is amazing

  • @gingerlyza
    @gingerlyza ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Poor, poor, plague surgeon. The only virion that I have never used in a game!

  • @D6Mafia
    @D6Mafia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is Cass Lord plus icon bearer with a small group of plague marines in a rhino possibly a thing?

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its definitely worth testing extremely large auras of mortals contagions etc on a big unit footprint

  • @MrEnvvii
    @MrEnvvii ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you clarify some things about the biologist putrifier? Specifically, how is it able to give its assault keyword to the rhino through the firing port and the rhino can still do actions? Wouldn't firing with the purifiers grenades prevent it from being eligible to shoot and therefore to do actions?

    • @claudiocecere7884
      @claudiocecere7884 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think (not sure tho) that firing deck means "chose 2 weapons of models embarked: the rhino counts as having those weapons in addition to his" instead of "the rhino can shoot with those weapons". Since the rhino is equipped with an assault weapon, he can advance and do an action instead of shooting with the big grenade.

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว

      So looking into this myself its coming down to TO rulings atm as its being played differently in different rulings, Some say as cladio has stated you are equipped with it and therefore can use the assault keyword but also others are ruling you aren't equipped with it until firing therefore now unable to be eligible to shoot etc. As always ask your TO if your unsure :)

    • @theberachi
      @theberachi ปีที่แล้ว

      Where do you see firing deck on the data sheet? I wanna make sure I do this correctly in friendly games and have a way to back it up

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theberachi on the rhino abilities it has firing deck 2. Firing deck is a core rule that allows you to pick upto X weapons equipped by models inside the transport and the transport can fire them as If it was its own weapon

  • @Prometheus_Williams
    @Prometheus_Williams ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you use two icon Bearers? If one gets himself perished- you could still have a chance to pop the banner elsewhere?

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You definitely can! Could even put 3 in a rhino and send one to his "true purpose" every turn (pop banner then die horribly)

  • @benny.boy8889
    @benny.boy8889 ปีที่แล้ว

    This series is great 👌🏻👍🏻

  • @paulbridge6063
    @paulbridge6063 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving this series, am a new Dg player, never played Dg before, so am enjoying it so far, quick question on Mortarion, how does his aura work vs things like a Ctaan, with half damage?

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว

      You get to laugh at him and ignore that nonsense :)

    • @paulbridge6063
      @paulbridge6063 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deathguarddisgustinglyresilien really, I am playing my mate who has Necrons and he has a hard time accepting it, so in plain words how can I mansplain it to him, plz

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paulbridge6063 both UKTC and WTC which are the largest tournament organisers in Europe and the UK have in their rulings clarified that any modifier to damage, ap etc to weapons equipped by a model cannot be modified. These can be found with a Google search. But the tldr is that the rule halves the damage of the weapon ergo changing its characteristic therefo it cannot be modified whether subtraction or division per mortys aura

    • @paulbridge6063
      @paulbridge6063 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deathguarddisgustinglyresilien cheers.

  • @ac_clone1300
    @ac_clone1300 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Aiden could you change the rating for the lord of contagion now that you’ve tried him and because he’s great for the cost. Also because he’s in my opinion the best model In the range(besides Morty)

  • @marcarthur100
    @marcarthur100 ปีที่แล้ว

    purgy is now turing in two a nurgal sporn

  • @seanalonzo9244
    @seanalonzo9244 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played 3 games with the DP until someone pointed out that his FNP doesn't work on himself. Haven't played him since.

    • @alexlerouge1170
      @alexlerouge1170 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did the same thing even worse I thought he gave it to everything so I was rolling him giving Rhinos and MBH's FnP ... then I learned it was only infantry and he's been missing from my army ever since

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว

      When the sad realisation kicks in

  • @byrongotcha
    @byrongotcha ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your wall example for the surgeon is even more pointless because of sticky objectives. Don't need to resurrect to hold the objective

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah so its even more niche you have to do it on a non stickied objective. I tried to throw the man a bone and still he disappoints us. Damn you plague surgeon!

  • @kazanekagari5209
    @kazanekagari5209 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aiden, thanks for all the info !!
    Just wanna know if a PBC moved and i use Boilblight, do they still hit on 2s if they are within 6" of Morty ignore aura ?

  • @tombolton2140
    @tombolton2140 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would say you've changed your mind on the Lord of Contagion?

  • @ALazerChicken
    @ALazerChicken ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NICE.

  • @bugggit
    @bugggit ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s your username on nurgles mansion Aidan? And have you posted any lists based on the new points?

  • @Prometheus_Williams
    @Prometheus_Williams ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do we support Disgustingly Resilient podcast?

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Likes, subs, comments, shares. Outside of that we dont really have anything set up not sure if thats something i should look into

    • @Prometheus_Williams
      @Prometheus_Williams ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deathguarddisgustinglyresilien You most certainly should look into it. The content is so useful. It doesn’t have to be elaborate- a way to tip, a buck or two a month membership. Models and paints are expensive-we want you to have all the goods you need. You are the Death Guard ambassador.

    • @Prometheus_Williams
      @Prometheus_Williams ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deathguarddisgustinglyresilien keep sharing all the cool content with you community- but give those who want to pitch in for CherryAid a chance to get you a cold one. There’s nearly 2K of us here.

  • @garybartlett2064
    @garybartlett2064 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a way to reach out to you directly?

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Gary, Im on the Nurgles mansion Discord group as Voltinus or you can find me on Facebook on any of the Death Guard groups just search my name and you should find me

  • @btomtom5465
    @btomtom5465 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, I'm new to 40k 10th ed. If you use the sorcerers once per game strat to increase ap and damage, you said you roll 2d6s. Thats alot of rolls for hazardous? He will die with two rolls of 1 with 3 mortals per roll of 1? Is this correct and if hes in a unit, won't they take the rest of the mortals if you roll more??

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey, apologies what i was saying is that when you use the once per game you want to use the hazardous profile as this will give you 2d6 shots. It is just 1 dice for hazardous regardless of the shot amount :)

    • @btomtom5465
      @btomtom5465 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien thanks i am loving the info mate. Learning so much!

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@btomtom5465 Glad its useful mate!

  • @LovelyLarissa48
    @LovelyLarissa48 ปีที่แล้ว

    You said that Mortarions ignore modifier aura ignores AP, although the ability states, that it exculdes modifiers to saving throws. Im pretty sure, that AP is a modifier to the throw and not the characteristic. Or am i wrong here?

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi sorry you may of misunderstood me. Mortarion allows you to ignore abilities that reduce the AP of your attack towards the enemy. Such as Armor of Contempt stratagem for space marines. He doesn't allow you to ignore the AP of incoming enemy attacks. Hope this clarifies what i meant for you :)

    • @LovelyLarissa48
      @LovelyLarissa48 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deathguarddisgustinglyresilien Ah yes that makes much more sense thank you! Sounds very powerful actually.

  • @khornebread4802
    @khornebread4802 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would a Chaos Lord with a Pllague Combi and exalted weapon work ok when leading a batch of Plague marines?

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Id reccomend a plague fist if possible but his main value is in his aura so dont worry if you dont have him modelles with a fist

    • @khornebread4802
      @khornebread4802 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deathguarddisgustinglyresilien What about the weapon? Should I do the normal combi bolter with the attachments or the new plague combi-bolter? How many Plague Marines should I have it attached to?

  • @crazykev5
    @crazykev5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think they are too strong? Are we going to see some nerfs?

  • @ryanba3
    @ryanba3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s the test list look like with the chaos lord tech?

    • @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien
      @deathguarddisgustinglyresilien  ปีที่แล้ว

      Morty
      LoV
      Termie lord
      Termie Sorc
      Typhus
      2x10 cultists
      20 poxwalkers
      2x3 Deathshroud
      Helbrute
      Predator Annihilator
      3 pbcs
      2x3 nurglings

  • @roadtoblack
    @roadtoblack 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Death Guard

  • @TheMATTUMBO
    @TheMATTUMBO ปีที่แล้ว

    Please GW just let us take viron in terminator squads

  • @The_skeleton_king
    @The_skeleton_king ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is sponsored by cherryade

  • @alexbamford4033
    @alexbamford4033 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only a true Death Guard player would drink the most cursed of all the aids.
    Such good advice thank you so much!

  • @acetylsalicilique
    @acetylsalicilique ปีที่แล้ว +1

    77777