Im emotionaly and mentaly a pretty tough person and i believe that if i were accused of a brutal double murder if two teen girls and i was innocent and put in a maximum security prision in solitary confinement for 18 months or even one month being strapped to a chair and given medication against my will i just might lose my shit too. Richard Allen was treated as though he'd been convicted of double murder. He was subjected to heinous treatment. Hes been convicted of nothing thus far. I've never in my 56 years heard of a person being held in a prision treated the way he was treated before trial. This doesnt even sound legal
BRAVO 👏 how is it that an unassuming little man from nowhere just go out & on a whim decide to risk killing the 1st ppl He came upon in a dicey area. A one off offence, goes back home, to work minds his own business, continues along with his NORMAL life with wife, family, relatives & work colleagues just plodding on. It's Ludicrous 🙏🏼
Justice for the Girls: Rest In Peace 🌸Abigail "Abby" Joyce Williams (June 23, 2003 - February 13, 2017) and Liberty "Libby" Rose Lynn German (December 27, 2002 - February 13, 2017)
I love this reporting sooo much better than the true crime shows. I know people like them but I prefer this - it cuts through the chase and isn’t biased.
@@chumchum4393it’s not the truth what’s been going on in our community is not being told and the truths are and have been hiding. Research all the strange deaths murders and suicides fire deaths and the shit load of unsolved arsons and corrruptions . Read woodhouse vs Delphi and Carroll county!!! Watch Delphi the reckoning Jessi snider!!! Research known groomer judge fouts and the Lafayette good old boys club. The Randle scandal . The flora 4 and on and on and on
Digitalgems9000 It’s ironic because that’s exactly what you’re doing. You don’t care about truth freedom or justice, go drink some more tap water and go hack to sleep.
@@Digitalgems9000 Allen has not been convicted yet so he isn't a child killer. The whole law enforcement investigation is/was a disgrace as well as the treatment he got from the prison system.
I just don’t think Allen is the guy. I think he went crazy from being arrested and absolutely reviled by the jailers, the people in the community, and the entire world watching. A person that would be capable of murdering these two young girls for no apparent reason other than brutally killing them, would not be behaving how Allen is. They would be savvier, they’d be tougher, they wouldn’t be consumed with guilt. It was 5 years with a damn video of the killer and they could not catch him. They needed a fall guy.
The people you speak of are usually strong minded and never give up their secrets of where bodies are buried etc. He's mentally weak, doesn't take a tough guy to kill two children and if he's so inclined mentally, why is it so hard to believe he'd commit crimes if he's not all there? I personally wouldn't put it past him, all this mental nonsense makes him look worse imo
@@Dris899no he's completely right. They had a picture of the suspect in the store where he worked and nobody pointed him out in 5 years? Really?! It was an election year for the sheriff's office so they had to get somebody to make themselves look good. This is a complete miscarriage of justice because he's not the man. In the Bridge Guy video that voice sounds like one of the sheriff's to me. I know that voice and it's him. The same one who was standing at the podium.
I am by no means saying RA is innocent, but when you see all the stuff that gets drug out and out on display for people in your own community, it really shines a light on how, even if you didn’t do it and you’re acquitted, your life is practically over after that. I suppose you could move to another state and start over but the psychological damage is gonna always be there.
Even if he is guilty, there were too many adverse conditions that affected his confessions with the result being that all of it seems tainted. Therefore not admissible or at least seriously questionable.
@@tracymonroe6001 What is wrong is that they put a suspect, who has not been proven guilty, in an isolation cell in a maximum security prison and tortured him. That is WRONG. That is CRIMINAL. Now he is unfit to be tried and they've literally destroyed any "evidence" he might have brought to the table. Anything he says is useless now. It went against all protocol. Why would they do that??
Usually people aren't arrested until after they confess. Otherwise they are arrested after the person gets caught up and can't talk themselves out of the contradictions they put themselves in.
What about Kegan and Tony Kline? It was Kegan's phone that communicated with Libby through the Anthony Shots account to meet up on that day. Something is missing, or something is being covered up.
I always believe they were all in it together to cat fish the girls to the Bridge and RA went there to meet at least one of the Girls ,Not expecting the other Girl to be there that day ,I think there is a lot more involved in this but has to be proven on their part but RA is the Bridge Guy!
I must say, WTHR, this is masterful coverage of this trial. As much as the state’s botching of this case has made me ashamed to be a Hoosier- - WTHR’s expert coverage of this case has restored my hope quite a bit. When a corrupt State is hellbent on railroading an innocent man, it is sane and methodical reporting like this that will bring it ALL to light.
so he was on LIbby's video ,, or you think another guy wearing the exact same clothes was there? such rubbish .. he did it .. he and his family are all crazy .
yeah the cops definitely botched this and they are trying to force a few too many pieces to fit. I am not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt at this point. That Brad Weber guy is a little sus and maybe Richard saw his van because he witnessed it this happening versus being the one who did it......
They violated their own protocol. Allen should have been sent to New Castle Pendleton, or Wabash Valley if the couldn't accommodate him in jail as he awaited trial.
@kmgreves I agree. Unfortunately, like Casey Anthony, RA will likely be acquitted (or hung jury). Too many people will believe conspiracy theories instead of using common sense. I, personally, think karma will happen regardless of the verdict, but I feel terrible for the victims’ families.
Hopefully, the Jury will render a guilty verdict. Remember they live in that area, many of them may have daughters, I wouldn't let him walk. No way, imo
@@justicejane2429I'm glad you are not a juror because he's not guilty. My question is where is any evidence that he actually did it. It's not guilty before proven innocent in case you forgot that. It's funny how the FBI and his first attorney both believed that ritualistic odinism is involved. And that's why they won't let it be talked about in the case because it would point to the actual killers. They're all covering up for each other because they're all in on it.
Honestly if RA is convicted at this point I would be shocked. Im not saying he is innocent or guilty but the state really dropped the ball on this one.
I've been following for years, I now say RA is innocent and I am appalled at what the state has done just to get a conviction. They know he's innocent!😡
I'm also betting on hung jury or acquittal, but I can't rule out a conviction. Confessions are hard for most people to overlook, however flawed, incomplete, or compromised they are. Most are not familiar with how often false confessions happen, even under much less strenuous circumstances than RA's. People just assume that nothing and no one could make them confess to something they didn't do, which ironically is exactly what RA said in his police interviews.
What is wrong with gaining sympathy from the jury?!! Exactly!! They are trying to make the jury UNDERSTAND the terrible state of mind he was in during his incarceration!! For God’s sake, he was being tortured!
B.S. he was under suicide watch and being protected from inmates who would murder him. He was not mentally ill, other than being a psychopath) when he killed the girls
@@burntpopcorn7543 Thank gawd we can finally do away with the time, expense, and effort put into trials! We have burntpopcorn to make all those tough decisions for us!
Exactly! I never knew you could legally keep out things that could help prove someone is innocent just like not allowing DNA evidence (different cases not this one)is mind boggling to me and seems so unfair makes me really question how many are wrongfully incarcerated because of stuff like this😢
A Defense team cannot accuse/throw names and groups out there without evidence. They were unable to show valid evidence at pre-trial hearings. LE looked into many people’s alibis. Just because the D-team leaked theories to the public, doesn’t mean it comes into a trial.
If you have not been paying attention to know why you should do your research. There are a lot of factual reasons. But your going to have to do you due diligence and research like the rest of us if you really want to know. It's been years of typing out explanations. I'm not doing that any more
He could be. But the state put on an expert that said she thought he was malingering. Although, to be fair, she also testified she’s now not sure about that. The problem with that is if he is malingering, why did he also keep confessing? Doesn’t make sense. So it’s either he had a break and falsely confessed, or he had a break and truthfully confessed.
You're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. Since when do you be put into a solitary confinement in a prison before being found guilty of a crime that wasn't even brought to court yet. ! So much stinks about this it's not even funny I think they're covering up for somebody else that they know who done it. !
@ well because the last time I checked, you are innocent until proven guilty and since he hasn’t got a verdict yet he still sits there at the events table as an innocent man
They’ve done a good job garnering sympathy for RAs plight of MH issues, while awaiting trial. Most of which were exasperated after the girls were found. Anxiety, depression, and guilt can do a number on one’s mind. I still see corroborating evidence that he placed himself with the girls during the crime. 🙏🏻🪦🪦☮️
@@nemonucliosis I pay attention to the lawyers. Has nothing to do with me. But no, it doesn't look as if he's innocent. But I really don't know. Let's let the jury decide.
It seems to me that it's getting weirder and weirder, and sloppier and sloppier. It feels like they're desperately trying to make this fit. There was so much misinformation fed to the public, and gaping holes in the investigation. Who's DNA was found in the hand of Libby German? How did this person slip by 7 years ago?
This stinks what is going on in that town needs to be Investigated there’s something going on with the people this is a pure set up I believe he was tortured into confession maybe give mood our mind altering drugs
@ I don’t know about his life style however I don’t think he is telling everything about what he seen or did not see something not right him could be owned by the cops
I'm confused, I'm originally from Indiana and a gun owner. Please explain to me how in the heck was Richard Allen able to legally own a Gun when that's one of the questions that's asked when you fill out the application to become a gun owner. That question specifically states have you ever been diagnosed with mental illness. I will tell everyone on here something isn't right here. If R.A has been diagnosed with mental illness growing up there's no way he should've been legally allowed to own a fire arm.🤔
There's no actual evidence he was ever diagnosed with any mental illness. While in prison, he probably relayed to the defence psychiatrist that at various points growing up he was depressed or anxious - which we all are at some point. And then boom - you now theoretically have a history of mental illness - which is very convenient if you have to stand trial.
Maybe I'm wrong buy AFAIK, he purchased that gun long before he was ever diagnosed with anything. And his only diagnosis before being put in WCU was major depression, for which he was medicated. Depression is pretty common and I don't think that it's even a legal impediment to owning a firearm if you have that diagnosis.
oh so there was someone with the same clothes on as the BG called Rick there and he was heard and seen ob a video,,, oh yeah ,,, if this little drunk gets off they will be setting a child killer free
Innocent until proven guilty. If he really is innocent, there are a lot of people to be held accountable for this man essentially losing his mind. It might take a long time of psychological help for him to be himself again. Not to mention a trauma that potentially can’t be undone.
@@GrammyTammy13 sounds like they’ve truly broken his spirit and mind. Maybe they wanted to push him a little so he would confess but instead they’ve gone too far. Maybe he tried to convince himself that he did it so he could somehow accept his fate or thinking they would ease up on him. The illusion of it all has quite clearly damaged him beyond repair.
She is extremely biased towards the state. I think there’s reasonable doubt but if he’s convicted he’ll probably get a retrial cuz of her. Terrible judge.
@@bunnyluver2176it's been shocking how much she has helped the prosecution, yesterday she was quibbling about Brad weber's dna not being at the scene or on the girls so he cannot be part of a 3rd party culprit defense, Richard Allen's dna has been found nowhere amongst the girls or the crime scene either. This could be used as part of a appeal already.
He was imprisoned a tiny cell with lights on overhead around the clock /24/7! A sleep deprivation set-up and he was recorded likewise by camera (s). Sleep deprivation as punishment is abuse and a human rights violation, if not, it ought to be.
It's a mind breaking tactic called psychological warfare ! A cia project ! first used in ww11 designed to destroy your mental capacity they used loud sirens over loud speakers in the villages in Europe day and night no end for 35 days and by the time they turned it off lots of people committed suicide
Magnificent coverage of the trial yet again. I'm in awe by the intriguing and captivating analysis and storytelling that keep getting delivered day after day. Hats off to the top-notch panel, says a devoted new fan from Scandinavia. 🏆👍
Richard Allen 's wife kathy said to him "you told me you didn't go to High Bridge that day." Why would she ask him if he went to the bridge in the first place? Did she recognize him when the photo of Bridge Guy came out? I think she did.
Ron Logan’s ex girlfriend just did an interview with News nation and she said that the man who said “Down the hill” was in fact Ron Logan and they were found on His property he also allegedly owned a weapon that matches the one RA had. Then there is the Kline men they are dirty, nasty men.
That mistake originated with Bob Segal, the WTHR reporter. They've since retracted it and Segal apologized in person to Kathy Allen and her daughter the other day.
Yet,, all prisoners go thru this with incompetency in mh care,, then released to the public with no follow thru after??? I think I CVS has hired others who eat their shat, and fill our rxs????? That's scary!!!!
Katie Jackson Lindsay could be explaining how to properly cook a box of Kraft macaroni and cheese, and I would find her absolutely fascinating. This coverage is award-worthy journalism and I really do hope it gets the recognition it deserves. Watching everyday from Long Island, New York.
the states side in this case is corrupt. this allen guy is innocent. there are 3 sketches and they are all distinctly different. he is indeed one of the 3 men that were there that day but not the one implicated in this crime.
The sketches were from witnesses memories, but the take away is they all saw only One man on the bridge, corroborating the video taken by Libby, and RA’s own admission he was present. He places himself near the trails with the girls by seeing a white van pulling into a driveway across from an access road. He describes being spooked, and then M them. A lot of detail in this confession, from a Perp’s vantage point. A person can have a psychotic episode, and still be truthful. Too much detail given to be dismissed.
The sketches were from witnesses memories, but the take away is they all saw only One man on the bridge, corroborating the video taken by Libby, and RA’s own admission he was present. He places himself near the trails with the girls by seeing a white van pulling into a driveway across from an access road. He describes being spooked, and then M them. A lot of detail in this confession, from a Perp’s vantage point. A person can have a psychotic episode, and still be truthful. Too much detail given to be dismissed.
The sketches were from witnesses memories, but the take away is they all saw only One man on the bridge, corroborating the video taken by Libby, and RA’s own admission he was present. He places himself near the trails with the girls by seeing a white van pulling into a driveway across from an access road. He describes being spooked, and then M them. A lot of detail in this confession, from a Perp’s vantage point. A person can have a psychotic episode, and still be truthful. Too much detail given to be dismissed.
The sketches were from witnesses memories, but the take away is they all saw only One man on the bridge, corroborating the video taken by Libby, and RA’s own admission he was present. He places himself near the trails with the girls by seeing a white van pulling into a driveway across from an access road. He describes being spooked, and then M them. A lot of detail in this confession, from a Perp’s vantage point. A person can have a psychotic episode, and still be truthful. Too much detail given to be dismissed.
The sketches were from witnesses memories, but the take away is they all saw only One man on the bridge, corroborating the video taken by Libby, and RA’s own admission he was present. He places himself near the trails with the girls by seeing a white van pulling into a driveway across from an access road. He describes being spooked, and then M them. A lot of detail in this confession, from a Perp’s vantage point. A person can have a psychotic episode, and still be truthful. Too much detail given to be dismissed.
I remember when RA was first arrested, his wife had a public Facebook account, and she had pictures posted of RA and his daughter on the bridge. I think she deleted her account, or she made it private because there were a lot of comments and they were not nice.
Prosecution: "You're trying to make Richard Allen out to be the victim here!" YES, Richard Allen is indeed an innocent victim, and he was abused by you for 2 years😨😨
I think his mental status and confessions in prison are irrelevant to his guilt. The girls recorded bridge guy for a reason. BG is their killer. And Richard Allen is clearly bridge guy.
Wasn't the bridge guy some pagan with a criminal record and time in prison. What about that creepy dude with Anthony shots cat fish profile preying on childern? Richard allen has no history of degenerate behavior, does he?
Have you seen the other 3rd party culprit suspects, including Abby’s bf’s daddy, Brad Holder? He looks like bridge guy too. Most white middle aged men look like bridge guy Sherlock. 😂
Everyone should be concerned by this case because even if he's found guilty, there's enough basis now to have his entire trial thrown out in the future.
💯 Only then RA and Libby and Abby's families will get dragged back into court so the state and Judge Gull can have a crack at bamboozling another jury. What a nightmare. And in all likelihood, the real killers are somewhere laughing their asses off this entire time.
How much sense does it make that RA would see a van so he DIDNT have time to SA the girls, but DID have enough time to kill 2 girls. We can assume he’s never killed before so how would he know how quickly he could kill 2 girls? Then why would he move Libby? All that takes time. Doesn’t make sense.
Wow, I've never thought of that, that makes so much sense! And also, the timelines don't even match. The police said they saw what looked like Allen's car on cctv around 1.27, leaving the scene. Well, didn't the van arrive at 2.30? It just doesn't hold up!
Gray Huges Investigates has a good time line animated video that's very interesting. All these times with each person is hard to keep straight unless you are doing a time line on paper. I follow a couple of defense attorneys, prior journalists, a retired CSI and some other random youtube channels on this case. What I care about is Abby & Libby and their families get justice and RA gets a fair trial.
The COPS didn't 'screw-up' ths case. They are doing a COVER-up of the CRIME perpetrated-by a 'well-connected' person (politician, lawyer, etc.) ORrrr..., it wuz done by anuther COP!! WHYYYY iz NO-one discussing ths 'option'/LIKELIHOOD??
I'd suffer psychosis too if I was in jail for murdering two young girls. He is faking most of it. Trying to change his appearance and make himself look crazy.
His daughter & sis saying they were never molested means nothing. My cousins father was creepy. He was very touchy feely with my cousin. She spent summers & vacations with him because he lived in another state. She came home acting strange after every visit. As young as 6 & 7 she sexualized everything. Always talking about & touching the private parts of her siblings & cousins. My mother confronted hers after an incident where she was caught touching her cousin. Up until 20 she denied her father was hurting her & would flip & cut ppl off for mentioning him in a negative light. When he was arrested for getting caught in the act molesting his new wife’s daughters she still defended him. It was only when the defense wanted her to testify for her father did she break & tell he molested her as far back as she can remember.
This is so sad to hear. I hope your cousin is ok now. I can't imagine how tramatic that would be. I hope too that if RA did do something to his daughter in this case and it's true she didn't have to lie about anything happening for him.
If she was young, it's very possible she doesnt remember OR maybe he's fantasised about it when they were young and it came out during his psychosis, if he's so mental to say things like this is it so hard to believe he wouldn't do it in real life? I believe he's guilty for sure.. he's an absolute head case..
The point here is that Allen CONFESSED to molesting his sister and daughter, but both of them are testifying that that never happened either. At the point of his "confessions" Allen would have confessed to killing JFK if they asked him
he sees the van and decides to get out of the area and cut it short. yet he takes the time to undress the girls and then redressed one of them in other clothing
And drags 200 lbs of dead weight 20 feet or so without leaving any drag marks. Then according to Sarah Carbaugh, walks nonchalantly down a very high traffic road 🤷♀Everything about this "case" is rotten.
I just want to know if he’s in psychosis now? Because he was just threatening to kill jailers last week. Yet sits in court everyday acting normal. Is he a fragile egg??? Or playing the part…
I’m starting to think they tried to test him to get a confession but they’ve gone too far and broken him, his spirit and mind. It drove him insane enough to think “if I just say I did it maybe they’ll ease up on me”. Imagine having to arrive at that place in your mind knowing you didn’t do it but knowing they think you did and you’re never getting out of this nightmare. If Allen is innocent then he’s just become the third victim of this horrendous crime. They’ve essentially killed him - he’s lost touch with who he even is anymore. They’ve used every psychological trick in the book to make even himself believe that he did it. They broke him. They broke his mind. And he may never come back from that. That too, in a way, is death.
By his own admission, He just happened to be on the bridge when the girls were there, and happened to confess he was spooked by a white van before he M them. He can have MH issues and still have committed the Ms. He can be in a psychotic state, and still confess to facts only known by the perpetrator.
You're gullible. Allen confessed because he began reading the bible and wanted to make things right with God and apologize to the girls families. Once his wife alerted the defense team and they intervened, he started believing that maybe a 'not guilty' verdict was possible after all. The typical instruction from lawyers is to start acting crazy and to start mixing up your confessions with nonsense to discredit everything you've already said. Which is what he did.
He didn’t molest Abby and Liberty either 🙄 what’s his alibi? He didn’t bother telling his,wife he was where the missing girls were that same exact day and place! He didn’t other to call police until his famous bridge guy photo was released, then he picks up the phone to tell police he was there and wore the exact same clothes! Then, he describes the white van that stopped him from doing more and made his cross the creek to Ron Logan’s land. Just stop! He’s totally guilty
How do you know that it wasn't Ron Logan?? His alibi didn't pan out. His ex-girlfriend said he was abusive with women & a FBI agent was thoroughly convinced that it was him. Plus, the bodies were found on his property.
It's not a question if guilty/not guilty. It's about whether justice is being carried out and it's not because of all the dodgy unethical stuff occurring in this case!
Richard Allen desperately needed to unload his guilt . And he needed reassurance from his mother and wife that they would still love him. Unfortunately, every time he tried to confess and unburden himself they kept telling him he didn't do it. That drove him crazy.
No idiot why didnt he unload his guilt under pressure of the Reid technique during his interrogation? Why all of a sudden AFTER being over a year in the SHU and no contact with his wife or mother did he "confess." I feel like you only look at 1 part of the case you have to put it all together and say "does it make sense" and tbh it doesnt
@@moisesmontecillo7570 Does it make sense? Richard Allen stated in his original interview that he went to the trails and walked past a group of girls and that a couple of them looked like sisters. He said he had his head down looking a stock ticker app on his phone. A group of girls say they had a man walk past them with his head down, a couple of those girls were sisters. The man was heading in the direction of the high bridge. That was a while after 1:30pm because the girls took a photo on their phone on the trail at that time. Richard claims he went to the high bridge to look at fish and he was in the area for 2hrs. Another person on the trail that day took images of the water at the high bridge. It was like thick green pea soup. Fish would not be visible. Richard described himself as wearing a blue jacket, blue jeans and a head covering. Abby and Libby took video of a short chubby man wearing blue jeans, blue jacket and a head covering walking towards them and instructing them to go down the hill. That was at 2:12pm. What do you think he was really doing up that area for 2hrs? Put it together it makes perfect sense.
Just read about the hair wrapped around Abby's fingers with the root attached, as in pulled out. The DNA matches Kelsey, but that wasn't tested or told for almost 7 years? I'm sure if it was RA, it woukd have been made public immediately. She supposably was the last person with them before their deaths? If this is a fact, there's reasonable doubt.
His wife is the one that encouraged him to call in the first place way back in 2017. I bet she regrets that now. The sad lesson of this case is don't try to "help" the police. You can't afford it.
What about his life between the murders and the time he was arrested?…..I think he held down a sensible job? …..was he crazy with delierium or is this just convenient for diminished responsibility ….did he have major depressive disorder when he murdered the girls did he have psychosis?…..what was going on in his life during this time?
@@tomas746yeah but he shouldn't be. If we're locking people up based on evidence there are men from that area who had actual contact with the girls online and in person. But they are somehow not suspects. Very interesting...
Let's be real: Richard Allen's prison conditions were inhumane!! No wonder he was trying to give confessions to try and get out of solitary. No forensics place him at the scene and none on his belongings either which is surprising given how bloody and messy the scene was. He's not guilty. They've broken him.
These are the most relevant facts in this entire scenario. But let these internet experts tell it, there is nothing but evidence against him, and he hasn't been mistreated. This trial has truly exposed the depravity so common in society. This man was obviously held without any hard evidence, and tortured until he ever gave any confession. The harm done to him has been obvious for a long time now, yet people are sooooo willing to accept the abuse as his due for a crime there is no proof he committed. I just read a comment where they swear things were said in a video....that I know for a fact were never said. It makes me hate people.
Every separate department of authority who have had input into this prosecution should be ashamed of themselves. But considering their collective treatment of Richard Allen from day 1, they are of course not capable of shame. And what about the families of the victims? Where on earth does this leave them? Surely, like the rest of us, they can see what is going on here?
The white van drives by very close in broad daylight, and the girls are savvy enough to videotape BG, yet they don't run and scream toward the van as it enters the driveway for help. It makes no sense.
@ Sure, Libby probably said "gun" for the fun of it and the sound heard on the video was probably something else and the bullet at the crime scene right by her foot was probably just already there. Derp.
But it looks like defense lawyers and their paid 'experts' don't care about victims. Against the facts. Each criminal employs a psychologist these days to manipulate the facts and try to get them go away with crimes.
I feel like the whole reason this trial is going on is because two beautiful girls were murdered … the focus is never on them 🥲… it’s all about poor Richard Allen . It’s a shame they are being forgotten 🩵💜
My opinion is he guilty... he was on bridge same time and day they were murder... problem is it took 5 years to find RA bc one man put away that he said, he was on bridge between 12:30 until like 2:30, some lady find it don't remember her name (?) ... his defence is trying to make jury believe bc he was crazy he said, he did it, he has to be crazy to had murder two beautiful little girls 😮 J/S
I watched another channel and could not comment because I was not a subscriber, but the following question came up in my mind? How deep is the creek? The killer should have known the creek very well to have known where it was shallow enough to be able to cross it to the other side. Would that not maybe have been something the owner of the property would have known? If time was so limited the killer had to be able to go to that cross over spot immediately.
Is it so hard to believe that a guy with long standing mental health issues wouldn't go and assault two kids when he's drunk and happened to be at the scene or was there another mental case there that day? I think all this stuff makes him look worse..
None of his longstanding mental health issues lead to violence. And if his long standing mental health issues did lead him to violence how come in all the years before the murders he has zero criminal record and in the 5 years after the murders he again has zero criminal record. You are pulling at straws to try to support guilt rather than asking "Am I sure beyond any reasonable doubt that this man killed those 2 girls." Does the evidence presented make you feel sure? Cause I certainly don't.
If I were a juror on this trial I would not be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt of RA guilt. Which is sad because Abby and Libby deserve justice. It’s also crucial that we get this dangerous person out of our society so they can’t hurt anyone else. I’m just not convinced that RA is the person who did it. Everyone should listen to a podcast called “ Murderville”. It’s a fantastic story about the collateral damage caused by convicting the wrong person for a crime with little to no physical evidence tying them to the crime.
Let’s don’t forget the Odenism theory. It may not be allowed in court, but the guards that were watching him had Oden patches on their vest. So he could’ve had a lot of intimidation going on from them, as well as they could’ve been feeding him information about the crime scene if indeed, that theory is true.
It's obvious then bridgeguy is really brian Weber because he clearly left work just in time to catch the girls at the end of the bridge. RA simply saw a white van driving when he was on the bridge however didnt see libby or abby cross the bridge. Must have been too busy with the stock ticker and watching fish
The bigger question is, do you actually trust this Walla lady? She broke ethical rules and was fired because of it, AND she had memberships in all the guilty-leaning TH-cam true crime channels that had running theories of the van. I don’t trust her “confessions” at all.
He did one better than that. He did not make any true confessions. All confessions came with the caveat of " I Think", " I said", etc. None were truly declarative or conclusive.
@@OpalineAndTheBeanI believe one confession to wife after he confessed and she was telling him he didn't or don't say that he said, No I killed Libby & Abby.
But one thing that he said, and that was he referenced the White Van when that piece of evidence wasn’t public news….he made it known that he panicked when he saw the van.
Did the detectives mention the white van during interrogation? Was he asked "Did you see the white van? Is that why you ran?" Some cops do these kinds of things.
Richard Allen was calm and cool in his confessions not having any meltdowns… almost ALL people WHO MURDER have some sort of mental illness or everyone would be doing it !! Smh!! The van sealed the deal … he had details that only the murderer would know . In my opinion he’s guilty … yes he was held too long in seg but that does not mean he still did not murder them !! Justice for Abby and Libby!! 🩵💜
maybe he was faking to save his own life, they have the death penalty there. extreme behavior is sus. He already admitted he was there on the bridge at the time of the murders. He had the same gun as the ejected shell, he lost the only phone that he was supposedly he was carrying at the time of the crime, his car was there at the scene. He admitted to the ranger that took his original statement that he was wearing the same kind of clothes that BG in the photo was wearing. He doesn't have an alibi for the time of the murders.
Im emotionaly and mentaly a pretty tough person and i believe that if i were accused of a brutal double murder if two teen girls and i was innocent and put in a maximum security prision in solitary confinement for 18 months or even one month being strapped to a chair and given medication against my will i just might lose my shit too. Richard Allen was treated as though he'd been convicted of double murder. He was subjected to heinous treatment. Hes been convicted of nothing thus far. I've never in my 56 years heard of a person being held in a prision treated the way he was treated before trial. This doesnt even sound legal
It's a violation of his 8th Amendment right. It's not legal.
Yes, you might lose your shit….but would you eat it?
Exactly! What the hell is going on in Delphi. Why are they hiding? How can they continue the trial ?
BRAVO 👏 how is it that an unassuming little man from nowhere just go out & on a whim decide to risk killing the 1st ppl He came upon in a dicey area. A one off offence, goes back home, to work minds his own business, continues along with his NORMAL life with wife, family, relatives & work colleagues just plodding on. It's Ludicrous 🙏🏼
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The Delphi Debrief has been very well done so far. You're winning some awards for this coverage.
@@justindougherty450 I agree...even-handed coverage, professionally delivered.
Hidden True Crimes is a great channel in court, and Gray Hughes investigates is a great channel to show you everything laid out
@@justmissjameyAndrea Burkhart is thee best, most detailed coverage
@justmissjamey GRAY HUGHES IS A LIAR AND HE IS TOTALLY BIASED , HE SUPPORTS THE PROSECUTION 100 %.
I'm from the uk 🇬🇧 and only listen to this channel.
Justice for the Girls: Rest In Peace 🌸Abigail "Abby" Joyce Williams (June 23, 2003 - February 13, 2017) and Liberty "Libby" Rose Lynn German (December 27, 2002 - February 13, 2017)
There will not be any justice for the girls with this trial as Richard Allen is innocent
I love this reporting sooo much better than the true crime shows. I know people like them but I prefer this - it cuts through the chase and isn’t biased.
I agree! It’s a much more concise summary
Truth🎉
@@chumchum4393it’s not the truth what’s been going on in our community is not being told and the truths are and have been hiding. Research all the strange deaths murders and suicides fire deaths and the shit load of unsolved arsons and corrruptions . Read woodhouse vs Delphi and Carroll county!!! Watch Delphi the reckoning Jessi snider!!! Research known groomer judge fouts and the Lafayette good old boys club. The Randle scandal . The flora 4 and on and on and on
I cant hardly watch anything else. It's all done up as entertainment and it really shouldn't be entertainment.
@@Sweetie_PieLodo you think WTHR isn’t making money off of this?
wow, i dont know if i would be able to say he's guilty, theres too much doubt and not enough evidence
stop defending a child killer. yikes
Digitalgems9000 It’s ironic because that’s exactly what you’re doing. You don’t care about truth freedom or justice, go drink some more tap water and go hack to sleep.
@@Digitalgems9000 Allen has not been convicted yet so he isn't a child killer. The whole law enforcement investigation is/was a disgrace as well as the treatment he got from the prison system.
@@Digitalgems9000have you got evidence that we don’t know about this is a show for you step away and look at logic and reasoning
@@Digitalgems9000are your eyes and ears open, or you sleep walking.
I just don’t think Allen is the guy. I think he went crazy from being arrested and absolutely reviled by the jailers, the people in the community, and the entire world watching. A person that would be capable of murdering these two young girls for no apparent reason other than brutally killing them, would not be behaving how Allen is. They would be savvier, they’d be tougher, they wouldn’t be consumed with guilt. It was 5 years with a damn video of the killer and they could not catch him. They needed a fall guy.
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Conspiracy theory bullshit
The people you speak of are usually strong minded and never give up their secrets of where bodies are buried etc. He's mentally weak, doesn't take a tough guy to kill two children and if he's so inclined mentally, why is it so hard to believe he'd commit crimes if he's not all there? I personally wouldn't put it past him, all this mental nonsense makes him look worse imo
@@Dris899no he's completely right. They had a picture of the suspect in the store where he worked and nobody pointed him out in 5 years? Really?! It was an election year for the sheriff's office so they had to get somebody to make themselves look good. This is a complete miscarriage of justice because he's not the man. In the Bridge Guy video that voice sounds like one of the sheriff's to me. I know that voice and it's him. The same one who was standing at the podium.
oh.....he's the guy alright
I am by no means saying RA is innocent, but when you see all the stuff that gets drug out and out on display for people in your own community, it really shines a light on how, even if you didn’t do it and you’re acquitted, your life is practically over after that. I suppose you could move to another state and start over but the psychological damage is gonna always be there.
Even if he is guilty, there were too many adverse conditions that affected his confessions with the result being that all of it seems tainted. Therefore not admissible or at least seriously questionable.
@@jay_rubyx Move to to the mountain in California…
He will need to sue the city, the state, anyone he can. Lost his home, his possesions, his job,/career.
His dignity, his basic human respect.
How would RA be injuriously affected once he realized that he acknowledges to himself that it was he who killed the girls. If not him, then who?
Guilty or not, as a society we CAN NOT ALLOW people to be treated the way Richard Allen has been treated!
Even if he is found guilty, this whole situation is WRONG. Needs to be investigated.
What is wrong? What needs to be investigated? What I want to know is, why are people so quick to claim some sort of conspiracy?
Prison is not a club house to enjoy yourself. Tougher laws = less crimes.
How is there NO DNA evidence?
@@tracymonroe6001 What is wrong is that they put a suspect, who has not been proven guilty, in an isolation cell in a maximum security prison and tortured him. That is WRONG. That is CRIMINAL. Now he is unfit to be tried and they've literally destroyed any "evidence" he might have brought to the table. Anything he says is useless now. It went against all protocol. Why would they do that??
Right people act like RA had feces thrown at him. No he chose to eat and roll in his own feces. Jail is hard . Nobody abused RA.
Katie Jackson-Lindsay has been so good during this trial! Her knowledge and insight are top-notch! 👏👏👏
I believe he was purposely sent to prison to torture him into a false confession. Why was he not allowed to stay in jail until trial??!! So shady !!
It's sad that people can be as thick as you are
🤦🏻♀️ You sound like a idiot
Usually people aren't arrested until after they confess. Otherwise they are arrested after the person gets caught up and can't talk themselves out of the contradictions they put themselves in.
Agreed.
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What about Kegan and Tony Kline? It was Kegan's phone that communicated with Libby through the Anthony Shots account to meet up on that day. Something is missing, or something is being covered up.
Apparently they had nothing to do with it somehow.
Definitely a cover up
I always believe they were all in it together to cat fish the girls to the Bridge and RA went there to meet at least one of the Girls ,Not expecting the other Girl to be there that day ,I think there is a lot more involved in this but has to be proven on their part but RA is the Bridge Guy!
@@mistyjackson1745 why would the prosecution not call them if that was the case. That whole angle hasn't been explored and it's so weird.
@@mistyjackson1745 Bridge guy looks and sounds way more like TK than RA does
I must say, WTHR, this is masterful coverage of this trial.
As much as the state’s botching of this case has made me ashamed to be a Hoosier-
- WTHR’s expert coverage of this case has restored my hope quite a bit.
When a corrupt State is hellbent on railroading an innocent man, it is sane and methodical reporting like this that will bring it ALL to light.
@@hencecovers just where have they been seen, sanely, to be doing that?
He might not be innocent but they sure don't have near enough to convict him
@@DR.DisInfect exactly the state has the burden to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt RA is the one that committed these murders
he's as guilty as the day is long
@bobbyswain7049 luckily for him days are very short after daylight savings
I’m leaning towards Not Guilty.
so he was on LIbby's video ,, or you think another guy wearing the exact same clothes was there? such rubbish .. he did it .. he and his family are all crazy .
@@kmgrevesthe guy in the video is 5 inches taller and 75 lbs heavier. Jeans and a blue jacket isn’t uncommon.
yeah the cops definitely botched this and they are trying to force a few too many pieces to fit. I am not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt at this point. That Brad Weber guy is a little sus and maybe Richard saw his van because he witnessed it this happening versus being the one who did it......
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@@kmgrevesI have the same jacket, so does just about everyone else in Indiana. Maybe we all did it. 🙄
They violated their own protocol. Allen should have been sent to New Castle Pendleton, or Wabash Valley if the couldn't accommodate him in jail as he awaited trial.
Absolutely. That choice of prison for pre-trial detention (against all logic) is what piqued my attention here to begin with
he was violent and would have been in the same situation anywhere ,,
@@kmgreves Uh, no. He verbally screamed at guards when he was precluded from phone calls with family, but that's it.
@kmgreves
I agree. Unfortunately, like Casey Anthony, RA will likely be acquitted (or hung jury). Too many people will believe conspiracy theories instead of using common sense. I, personally, think karma will happen regardless of the verdict, but I feel terrible for the victims’ families.
DanielleS-d2c You just proved you have no common sense. Your blind faith trust in blatant corruption is the ultimate conspiracy theory.
This trial has one of the most attentive and hardest working juries I've ever heard about.
Hopefully that will insure that the trial is as fair as possible with a judge who has already made up her mind
Hopefully, the Jury will render a guilty verdict. Remember they live in that area, many of them may have daughters, I wouldn't let him walk. No way, imo
@@justicejane2429I'm glad you are not a juror because he's not guilty. My question is where is any evidence that he actually did it. It's not guilty before proven innocent in case you forgot that. It's funny how the FBI and his first attorney both believed that ritualistic odinism is involved. And that's why they won't let it be talked about in the case because it would point to the actual killers. They're all covering up for each other because they're all in on it.
@@justicejane2429 So you'd like them to convict someone who's probably innocent even if it lets the real culprits off the hook?
Honestly if RA is convicted at this point I would be shocked. Im not saying he is innocent or guilty but the state really dropped the ball on this one.
I've been following for years, I now say RA is innocent and I am appalled at what the state has done just to get a conviction. They know he's innocent!😡
I've said the same thing. He's been treated unfairly by this judge.
They apparently didn't even have any solid evidence at all.
I'm also betting on hung jury or acquittal, but I can't rule out a conviction. Confessions are hard for most people to overlook, however flawed, incomplete, or compromised they are. Most are not familiar with how often false confessions happen, even under much less strenuous circumstances than RA's. People just assume that nothing and no one could make them confess to something they didn't do, which ironically is exactly what RA said in his police interviews.
@Libbathegreat great observation.
What is wrong with gaining sympathy from the jury?!! Exactly!! They are trying to make the jury UNDERSTAND the terrible state of mind he was in during his incarceration!! For God’s sake, he was being tortured!
B.S. he was under suicide watch and being protected from inmates who would murder him. He was not mentally ill, other than being a psychopath) when he killed the girls
@@burntpopcorn7543 Thank gawd we can finally do away with the time, expense, and effort put into trials! We have burntpopcorn to make all those tough decisions for us!
@@burntpopcorn7543 Thank you
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@@burntpopcorn7543he is still innocent until proven guilty. He hasn't even been proven guilty yet.
The best coverage of this trial. Excellent reporting.
I agree. It’s no nonsense and unbiased!
Thankyou Bob, Sam, and the crew for bringing these awesome breakdowns
I still dont understand how a judge can say NO you cant use your main defense. This is biased and fixed.
Exactly! I never knew you could legally keep out things that could help prove someone is innocent just like not allowing DNA evidence (different cases not this one)is mind boggling to me and seems so unfair makes me really question how many are wrongfully incarcerated because of stuff like this😢
A Defense team cannot accuse/throw names and groups out there without evidence. They were unable to show valid evidence at pre-trial hearings. LE looked into many people’s alibis.
Just because the D-team leaked theories to the public, doesn’t mean it comes into a trial.
What did they exclude? Sorry I haven't been keeping up.
Judge gave the defense an opportunity to show evidence, they had none except hearsay. Not allowed.
@HeatherTr Does the prosecution have evidence?
This channels coverage is a must following this trial. Thank you for your dedication and hard work bringing this info to us!
How come he can’t be guilty and have also had a psychotic break? Honestly, just asking.
Good point
If you have not been paying attention to know why you should do your research. There are a lot of factual reasons. But your going to have to do you due diligence and research like the rest of us if you really want to know. It's been years of typing out explanations. I'm not doing that any more
You poise the exact question I would be asking if I was a juror.
He could be. But the state put on an expert that said she thought he was malingering. Although, to be fair, she also testified she’s now not sure about that. The problem with that is if he is malingering, why did he also keep confessing? Doesn’t make sense. So it’s either he had a break and falsely confessed, or he had a break and truthfully confessed.
The issue is there is no evidence to say he is guilty. The prosecution is hingeing their case on these false confessions.
You're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. Since when do you be put into a solitary confinement in a prison before being found guilty of a crime that wasn't even brought to court yet. ! So much stinks about this it's not even funny I think they're covering up for somebody else that they know who done it. !
I agree
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At the least, they definitely saw RA as the most vulnerable person they could go after. Brad Weber sounds more suspicious to me than RA.
I'm impressed with the defense attorneys and how they are handling the case... and themselves.
That's because you think RA is innocent.
@ well because the last time I checked, you are innocent until proven guilty and since he hasn’t got a verdict yet he still sits there at the events table as an innocent man
They’ve done a good job garnering sympathy for RAs plight of MH issues, while awaiting trial.
Most of which were exasperated after the girls were found.
Anxiety, depression, and guilt can do a number on one’s mind.
I still see corroborating evidence that he placed himself with the girls during the crime. 🙏🏻🪦🪦☮️
@@nemonucliosis I pay attention to the lawyers. Has nothing to do with me. But no, it doesn't look as if he's innocent. But I really don't know. Let's let the jury decide.
It seems to me that it's getting weirder and weirder, and sloppier and sloppier. It feels like they're desperately trying to make this fit. There was so much misinformation fed to the public, and gaping holes in the investigation. Who's DNA was found in the hand of Libby German? How did this person slip by 7 years ago?
The more I hear about this case. The more it seems like a setup. It just doesn't make sense . I sure hope the truth comes out somehow.
This stinks what is going on in that town needs to be Investigated there’s something going on with the people this is a pure set up I believe he was tortured into confession maybe give mood our mind altering drugs
@@BrendanODonovan-c5z conspiracy theorists abound in here 🙄
@ it stinks 😷 everything is not being told
@@BrendanODonovan-c5zit was them odin dudes with criminal records
@ I don’t know about his life style however I don’t think he is telling everything about what he seen or did not see something not right him could be owned by the cops
I'm confused, I'm originally from Indiana and a gun owner. Please explain to me how in the heck was Richard Allen able to legally own a Gun when that's one of the questions that's asked when you fill out the application to become a gun owner. That question specifically states have you ever been diagnosed with mental illness. I will tell everyone on here something isn't right here. If R.A has been diagnosed with mental illness growing up there's no way he should've been legally allowed to own a fire arm.🤔
People lie ..that’s why 😊
Military buddy
There's no actual evidence he was ever diagnosed with any mental illness. While in prison, he probably relayed to the defence psychiatrist that at various points growing up he was depressed or anxious - which we all are at some point. And then boom - you now theoretically have a history of mental illness - which is very convenient if you have to stand trial.
Maybe I'm wrong buy AFAIK, he purchased that gun long before he was ever diagnosed with anything. And his only diagnosis before being put in WCU was major depression, for which he was medicated. Depression is pretty common and I don't think that it's even a legal impediment to owning a firearm if you have that diagnosis.
They are railroading him. He is not the killer
oh so there was someone with the same clothes on as the BG called Rick there and he was heard and seen ob a video,,, oh yeah ,,, if this little drunk gets off they will be setting a child killer free
@@kmgreveswhere did you hear his name on any recording?
@@kmgrevesNasty and untrue . No name was mentioned and most men’s jeans and jackets are blue .
@@kmgrevesRick? Where?
They had “better” person of interests to railroad. Most likely they believe he is the guy.
Innocent until proven guilty. If he really is innocent, there are a lot of people to be held accountable for this man essentially losing his mind. It might take a long time of psychological help for him to be himself again. Not to mention a trauma that potentially can’t be undone.
He will Never fully recover
@@GrammyTammy13 sounds like they’ve truly broken his spirit and mind. Maybe they wanted to push him a little so he would confess but instead they’ve gone too far.
Maybe he tried to convince himself that he did it so he could somehow accept his fate or thinking they would ease up on him. The illusion of it all has quite clearly damaged him beyond repair.
The judge should have been on trial
Horrendous! She needs voted OUT!
She is extremely biased towards the state. I think there’s reasonable doubt but if he’s convicted he’ll probably get a retrial cuz of her. Terrible judge.
@@bunnyluver2176it's been shocking how much she has helped the prosecution, yesterday she was quibbling about Brad weber's dna not being at the scene or on the girls so he cannot be part of a 3rd party culprit defense, Richard Allen's dna has been found nowhere amongst the girls or the crime scene either. This could be used as part of a appeal already.
If Brad Weber was seen in his van by RA, how could he have been at the crime scene?
They blame Odinists, and now Weber 🙄
Brad Weber seems like the one who did it to me.
He was imprisoned a tiny cell with lights on overhead around the clock /24/7! A sleep deprivation set-up and he was recorded likewise by camera (s). Sleep deprivation as punishment is abuse and a human rights violation, if not, it ought to be.
The lights never shut off for anyone in jail or prison.......... thats how it is lol
It's a mind breaking tactic called psychological warfare ! A cia project ! first used in ww11 designed to destroy your mental capacity they used loud sirens over loud speakers in the villages in Europe day and night no end for 35 days and by the time they turned it off lots of people committed suicide
@@islandergal4970 The hall lights stay on always but the cell lights go off at shutdown not lockdown
Anyways who cares his guilty as f
debbiebrookes You’re not very bright but let’s hope you’re never a juror. Some unthinking hater.
Magnificent coverage of the trial yet again. I'm in awe by the intriguing and captivating analysis and storytelling that keep getting delivered day after day. Hats off to the top-notch panel, says a devoted new fan from Scandinavia. 🏆👍
Richard Allen 's wife kathy said to him "you told me you didn't go to High Bridge that day." Why would she ask him if he went to the bridge in the first place? Did she recognize him when the photo of Bridge Guy came out? I think she did.
When did we learn that she said that to him, if you can remember? I must have missed it
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@@amya6902I believe it was while they were alone in the police interview room.
Ron Logan’s ex girlfriend just did an interview with News nation and she said that the man who said “Down the hill” was in fact Ron Logan and they were found on His property he also allegedly owned a weapon that matches the one RA had. Then there is the Kline men they are dirty, nasty men.
@@GrammyTammy13 nothing more reliable than ex girlfriends. LOL
People kept posting in chats that RA’s daughter said she didn’t love him. However, this was NEVER SAID! Liars in chat trying to mess with the FACTS!
That mistake originated with Bob Segal, the WTHR reporter. They've since retracted it and Segal apologized in person to Kathy Allen and her daughter the other day.
I would not let an animal live in the condition that RA was forced to.
Yet,, all prisoners go thru this with incompetency in mh care,, then released to the public with no follow thru after??? I think I CVS has hired others who eat their shat, and fill our rxs????? That's scary!!!!
Depression doesn't mean you can't be truthful, Amen
Katie Jackson Lindsay could be explaining how to properly cook a box of Kraft macaroni and cheese, and I would find her absolutely fascinating. This coverage is award-worthy journalism and I really do hope it gets the recognition it deserves. Watching everyday from Long Island, New York.
Fellow long islander here. Obsessed with this case from the start.
the states side in this case is corrupt. this allen guy is innocent. there are 3 sketches and they are all distinctly different. he is indeed one of the 3 men that were there that day but not the one implicated in this crime.
The sketches were from witnesses memories, but the take away is they all saw only One man on the bridge, corroborating the video taken by Libby, and RA’s own admission he was present. He places himself near the trails with the girls by seeing a white van pulling into a driveway across from an access road. He describes being spooked, and then M them.
A lot of detail in this confession, from a Perp’s vantage point.
A person can have a psychotic episode, and still be truthful. Too much detail given to be dismissed.
The sketches were from witnesses memories, but the take away is they all saw only One man on the bridge, corroborating the video taken by Libby, and RA’s own admission he was present. He places himself near the trails with the girls by seeing a white van pulling into a driveway across from an access road. He describes being spooked, and then M them.
A lot of detail in this confession, from a Perp’s vantage point.
A person can have a psychotic episode, and still be truthful. Too much detail given to be dismissed.
The sketches were from witnesses memories, but the take away is they all saw only One man on the bridge, corroborating the video taken by Libby, and RA’s own admission he was present. He places himself near the trails with the girls by seeing a white van pulling into a driveway across from an access road. He describes being spooked, and then M them.
A lot of detail in this confession, from a Perp’s vantage point.
A person can have a psychotic episode, and still be truthful. Too much detail given to be dismissed.
The sketches were from witnesses memories, but the take away is they all saw only One man on the bridge, corroborating the video taken by Libby, and RA’s own admission he was present. He places himself near the trails with the girls by seeing a white van pulling into a driveway across from an access road. He describes being spooked, and then M them.
A lot of detail in this confession, from a Perp’s vantage point.
A person can have a psychotic episode, and still be truthful. Too much detail given to be dismissed.
The sketches were from witnesses memories, but the take away is they all saw only One man on the bridge, corroborating the video taken by Libby, and RA’s own admission he was present. He places himself near the trails with the girls by seeing a white van pulling into a driveway across from an access road. He describes being spooked, and then M them.
A lot of detail in this confession, from a Perp’s vantage point.
A person can have a psychotic episode, and still be truthful. Too much detail given to be dismissed.
I remember when RA was first arrested, his wife had a public Facebook account, and she had pictures posted of RA and his daughter on the bridge. I think she deleted her account, or she made it private because there were a lot of comments and they were not nice.
They would have had to keep very low profiles.
So cruel really. She isn't accused.
If he is innocent......if he truly is, then this is soooo bad. I just hope the full truth comes to see the day....
Prosecution: "You're trying to make Richard Allen out to be the victim here!"
YES, Richard Allen is indeed an innocent victim, and he was abused by you for 2 years😨😨
um.....no
I sort of think allen was abusive to them actually.
I think his mental status and confessions in prison are irrelevant to his guilt. The girls recorded bridge guy for a reason. BG is their killer. And Richard Allen is clearly bridge guy.
Absolutely
Exactly what I thought
Wasn't the bridge guy some pagan with a criminal record and time in prison. What about that creepy dude with Anthony shots cat fish profile preying on childern?
Richard allen has no history of degenerate behavior, does he?
Have you seen the other 3rd party culprit suspects, including Abby’s bf’s daddy, Brad Holder? He looks like bridge guy too. Most white middle aged men look like bridge guy Sherlock. 😂
There is no Bridge guy. It was a planted evidence on Libbie phone . No Bridge guy. FREE RICHARD ALLEN 💙
GIVE WTHR AN AWARD FOR THE DELPHI CASE COVERAGE!!!
He confessed to slashing their throats. That info had not been released. Regardless of horrid jail treatment, he IS guilty
He was also given the photos and information on the crime scene to be able to include this information in his "confessions"
He saw the evidence by that point with his attorney
That information is public knowledge. People have known since the girls funeral.
It’s so bizarre how people will just randomly make up a lie publicly like this.. So sheepish.
The psychologist ALSO spoke with him on the case and She looked up details
My go-to coverage on this trial is HERE. Excellent work. Thank you.
Everyone should be concerned by this case because even if he's found guilty, there's enough basis now to have his entire trial thrown out in the future.
💯 Only then RA and Libby and Abby's families will get dragged back into court so the state and Judge Gull can have a crack at bamboozling another jury. What a nightmare. And in all likelihood, the real killers are somewhere laughing their asses off this entire time.
How much sense does it make that RA would see a van so he DIDNT have time to SA the girls, but DID have enough time to kill 2 girls. We can assume he’s never killed before so how would he know how quickly he could kill 2 girls? Then why would he move Libby? All that takes time. Doesn’t make sense.
Wow, I've never thought of that, that makes so much sense! And also, the timelines don't even match. The police said they saw what looked like Allen's car on cctv around 1.27, leaving the scene. Well, didn't the van arrive at 2.30? It just doesn't hold up!
Gray Huges Investigates has a good time line animated video that's very interesting. All these times with each person is hard to keep straight unless you are doing a time
line on paper. I follow a couple of defense attorneys, prior journalists, a retired CSI and some other random youtube channels on this case. What I care about is Abby & Libby and their families get justice and RA gets a fair trial.
One of the most blundering cases..ever
You all are doing a great job covering this!
The COPS didn't 'screw-up' ths case. They are doing a COVER-up of the CRIME perpetrated-by a 'well-connected' person (politician, lawyer, etc.) ORrrr..., it wuz done by anuther COP!! WHYYYY iz NO-one discussing ths 'option'/LIKELIHOOD??
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Weather he did it or not I just don’t agree that they have met burden of the proof 🤷🏻♀️
I'd suffer psychosis too if I was in jail for murdering two young girls. He is faking most of it. Trying to change his appearance and make himself look crazy.
Agree. He’s guilty as heck. He says he did it but people stil went to say he’s innocent.
I dont understand why people are all for him being innocent. It's evident he did it!!!
@@vincedidiana5781 It's those calls that convince me. I think he was genuinely trying to confess but his wife kept pushing back.
Even the DOC's own psych people don't think he was "faking". How do you fake your eyes bulging out of your head for four months?
I'm glad to hear that good news. Thanks for the update.
This has been excellent coverage. Thank you for your professional work.
His daughter & sis saying they were never molested means nothing. My cousins father was creepy. He was very touchy feely with my cousin. She spent summers & vacations with him because he lived in another state. She came home acting strange after every visit. As young as 6 & 7 she sexualized everything. Always talking about & touching the private parts of her siblings & cousins. My mother confronted hers after an incident where she was caught touching her cousin. Up until 20 she denied her father was hurting her & would flip & cut ppl off for mentioning him in a negative light. When he was arrested for getting caught in the act molesting his new wife’s daughters she still defended him. It was only when the defense wanted her to testify for her father did she break & tell he molested her as far back as she can remember.
This is so sad to hear. I hope your cousin is ok now. I can't imagine how tramatic that would be. I hope too that if RA did do something to his daughter in this case and it's true she didn't have to lie about anything happening for him.
If she was young, it's very possible she doesnt remember OR maybe he's fantasised about it when they were young and it came out during his psychosis, if he's so mental to say things like this is it so hard to believe he wouldn't do it in real life? I believe he's guilty for sure.. he's an absolute head case..
That’s one case. Not everyone acts alike.
The point here is that Allen CONFESSED to molesting his sister and daughter, but both of them are testifying that that never happened either. At the point of his "confessions" Allen would have confessed to killing JFK if they asked him
he sees the van and decides to get out of the area and cut it short. yet he takes the time to undress the girls and then redressed one of them in other clothing
And drags 200 lbs of dead weight 20 feet or so without leaving any drag marks. Then according to Sarah Carbaugh, walks nonchalantly down a very high traffic road 🤷♀Everything about this "case" is rotten.
I just want to know if he’s in psychosis now? Because he was just threatening to kill jailers last week. Yet sits in court everyday acting normal. Is he a fragile egg??? Or playing the part…
Ohhhh he's playing the part, like he's been told to do 😏
Thank you Team WTHR! ROLE MODELS!!!
this coverage better win an emmy!
I’m starting to think they tried to test him to get a confession but they’ve gone too far and broken him, his spirit and mind. It drove him insane enough to think “if I just say I did it maybe they’ll ease up on me”. Imagine having to arrive at that place in your mind knowing you didn’t do it but knowing they think you did and you’re never getting out of this nightmare. If Allen is innocent then he’s just become the third victim of this horrendous crime. They’ve essentially killed him - he’s lost touch with who he even is anymore. They’ve used every psychological trick in the book to make even himself believe that he did it. They broke him. They broke his mind. And he may never come back from that. That too, in a way, is death.
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By his own admission, He just happened to be on the bridge when the girls were there, and happened to confess he was spooked by a white van before he M them.
He can have MH issues and still have committed the Ms. He can be in a psychotic state, and still confess to facts only known by the perpetrator.
You're gullible. Allen confessed because he began reading the bible and wanted to make things right with God and apologize to the girls families. Once his wife alerted the defense team and they intervened, he started believing that maybe a 'not guilty' verdict was possible after all. The typical instruction from lawyers is to start acting crazy and to start mixing up your confessions with nonsense to discredit everything you've already said. Which is what he did.
@Kristin2885
Exactly.
@dianealarcon8304
I agree.
He didn’t molest Abby and Liberty either 🙄 what’s his alibi? He didn’t bother telling his,wife he was where the missing girls were that same exact day and place! He didn’t other to call police until his famous bridge guy photo was released, then he picks up the phone to tell police he was there and wore the exact same clothes! Then, he describes the white van that stopped him from doing more and made his cross the creek to Ron Logan’s land. Just stop! He’s totally guilty
Do you know if they were able to find the clothes he was wearing that day in the picture?
How do you know that it wasn't Ron Logan?? His alibi didn't pan out. His ex-girlfriend said he was abusive with women & a FBI agent was thoroughly convinced that it was him. Plus, the bodies were found on his property.
It's not a question if guilty/not guilty. It's about whether justice is being carried out and it's not because of all the dodgy unethical stuff occurring in this case!
He spoke with police 3 days after. BG photo came out waaay after that.
Get your facts straight.
Great job! Thank u
Richard Allen desperately needed to unload his guilt . And he needed reassurance from his mother and wife that they would still love him. Unfortunately, every time he tried to confess and unburden himself they kept telling him he didn't do it. That drove him crazy.
No idiot why didnt he unload his guilt under pressure of the Reid technique during his interrogation? Why all of a sudden AFTER being over a year in the SHU and no contact with his wife or mother did he "confess." I feel like you only look at 1 part of the case you have to put it all together and say "does it make sense" and tbh it doesnt
True words 🙌
@@moisesmontecillo7570not your words.
@@moisesmontecillo7570 Does it make sense?
Richard Allen stated in his original interview that he went to the trails and walked past a group of girls and that a couple of them looked like sisters. He said he had his head down looking a stock ticker app on his phone.
A group of girls say they had a man walk past them with his head down, a couple of those girls were sisters. The man was heading in the direction of the high bridge. That was a while after 1:30pm because the girls took a photo on their phone on the trail at that time.
Richard claims he went to the high bridge to look at fish and he was in the area for 2hrs. Another person on the trail that day took images of the water at the high bridge. It was like thick green pea soup. Fish would not be visible.
Richard described himself as wearing a blue jacket, blue jeans and a head covering. Abby and Libby took video of a short chubby man wearing blue jeans, blue jacket and a head covering walking towards them and instructing them to go down the hill. That was at 2:12pm. What do you think he was really doing up that area for 2hrs?
Put it together it makes perfect sense.
One ☝🏼 of the sketches look like their mayor,Evans
Just read about the hair wrapped around Abby's fingers with the root attached, as in pulled out. The DNA matches Kelsey, but that wasn't tested or told for almost 7 years? I'm sure if it was RA, it woukd have been made public immediately. She supposably was the last person with them before their deaths? If this is a fact, there's reasonable doubt.
Mr Allen’s wife & mother covering for him. They knew it was him. There was never going to be a call to law enforcement from those two
His wife is the one that encouraged him to call in the first place way back in 2017. I bet she regrets that now. The sad lesson of this case is don't try to "help" the police. You can't afford it.
What about his life between the murders and the time he was arrested?…..I think he held down a sensible job? …..was he crazy with delierium or is this just convenient for diminished responsibility ….did he have major depressive disorder when he murdered the girls did he have psychosis?…..what was going on in his life during this time?
The psychosis was caused by him being forcibly injected with drugs at the prison.
How did it result on diminished responsibility? He’s literally on trial for murder.
@@tomas746yeah but he shouldn't be. If we're locking people up based on evidence there are men from that area who had actual contact with the girls online and in person. But they are somehow not suspects. Very interesting...
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Let's be real: Richard Allen's prison conditions were inhumane!! No wonder he was trying to give confessions to try and get out of solitary. No forensics place him at the scene and none on his belongings either which is surprising given how bloody and messy the scene was. He's not guilty. They've broken him.
Forensics really don’t place anyone at the scene …all inconclusive dna samples ..guess nobody did it???
These are the most relevant facts in this entire scenario. But let these internet experts tell it, there is nothing but evidence against him, and he hasn't been mistreated.
This trial has truly exposed the depravity so common in society. This man was obviously held without any hard evidence, and tortured until he ever gave any confession. The harm done to him has been obvious for a long time now, yet people are sooooo willing to accept the abuse as his due for a crime there is no proof he committed.
I just read a comment where they swear things were said in a video....that I know for a fact were never said. It makes me hate people.
Every separate department of authority who have had input into this prosecution should be ashamed of themselves. But considering their collective treatment of Richard Allen from day 1, they are of course not capable of shame. And what about the families of the victims? Where on earth does this leave them? Surely, like the rest of us, they can see what is going on here?
The white van drives by very close in broad daylight, and the girls are savvy enough to videotape BG, yet they don't run and scream toward the van as it enters the driveway for help. It makes no sense.
He did have a gun....
@@amya6902oh, bullshit. Naive peole .
@@amya6902we don't know that he had a gun
@ Sure, Libby probably said "gun" for the fun of it and the sound heard on the video was probably something else and the bullet at the crime scene right by her foot was probably just already there. Derp.
I have a lot of doubt about his guilt but that's not a good argument.
I'm sure the parents of Abby and Libby are suffering worse than this guy.
But it looks like defense lawyers and their paid 'experts' don't care about victims. Against the facts. Each criminal employs a psychologist these days to manipulate the facts and try to get them go away with crimes.
Judge's and politicians should have to know just how Richard Allen was treated. He was convicted before a trial .
Sam is a terrific addition to the team and adds a lot to the already great coverage.
So many people protecting the perp....
It's trendy to protect the perps and blame the victims. Snowflakes are perfect at this.
“Perv” 😮 lol
It sickens me!
I'm not protecting him but I do think there's insufficient evidence.
I feel like the whole reason this trial is going on is because two beautiful girls were murdered … the focus is never on them 🥲… it’s all about poor Richard Allen . It’s a shame they are being forgotten 🩵💜
My opinion is he guilty... he was on bridge same time and day they were murder... problem is it took 5 years to find RA bc one man put away that he said, he was on bridge between 12:30 until like 2:30, some lady find it don't remember her name (?) ... his defence is trying to make jury believe bc he was crazy he said, he did it, he has to be crazy to had murder two beautiful little girls 😮 J/S
I watched another channel and could not comment because I was not a subscriber, but the following question came up in my mind?
How deep is the creek?
The killer should have known the creek very well to have known where it was shallow enough to be able to cross it to the other side. Would that not maybe have been something the owner of the property would have known? If time was so limited the killer had to be able to go to that cross over spot immediately.
Really starting to think he didn’t do it
Can we keep Samantha? It's amazing to not have to listen to you been talked over or cut off while she tries to finish your sentences constantly!
Why don’t you guys talk about his wife calling the police to his house when he had his gun in his mouth?
It's beyond the scope
Casey Anthony can go free? And if this man gets GUILTY, I will loose ALL FAITH in this system! He did not do it!
Excellent coverage. Fed up of five hour livestreams with an agenda.
Is it so hard to believe that a guy with long standing mental health issues wouldn't go and assault two kids when he's drunk and happened to be at the scene or was there another mental case there that day? I think all this stuff makes him look worse..
None of his longstanding mental health issues lead to violence. And if his long standing mental health issues did lead him to violence how come in all the years before the murders he has zero criminal record and in the 5 years after the murders he again has zero criminal record. You are pulling at straws to try to support guilt rather than asking "Am I sure beyond any reasonable doubt that this man killed those 2 girls." Does the evidence presented make you feel sure? Cause I certainly don't.
EXACTLY
If I were a juror on this trial I would not be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt of RA guilt. Which is sad because Abby and Libby deserve justice. It’s also crucial that we get this dangerous person out of our society so they can’t hurt anyone else. I’m just not convinced that RA is the person who did it. Everyone should listen to a podcast called “ Murderville”. It’s a fantastic story about the collateral damage caused by convicting the wrong person for a crime with little to no physical evidence tying them to the crime.
If searches were being done day and night, did nobody come across anything? Strange!
Let’s don’t forget the Odenism theory. It may not be allowed in court, but the guards that were watching him had Oden patches on their vest. So he could’ve had a lot of intimidation going on from them, as well as they could’ve been feeding him information about the crime scene if indeed, that theory is true.
This is so sad. The Justice System in this country is in tatters. I think he is innocent and being used to make someones "reputation".
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Thank you for providing professional coverage.
Why would Allen mention the van if he never saw it?
It was all over Reddit for years and since that Wala was also all over Reddit she may have told him
It's obvious then bridgeguy is really brian Weber because he clearly left work just in time to catch the girls at the end of the bridge. RA simply saw a white van driving when he was on the bridge however didnt see libby or abby cross the bridge. Must have been too busy with the stock ticker and watching fish
The bigger question is, do you actually trust this Walla lady? She broke ethical rules and was fired because of it, AND she had memberships in all the guilty-leaning TH-cam true crime channels that had running theories of the van. I don’t trust her “confessions” at all.
@@snooopydooo he was recorded 24/7 the defense would be playing them telling him about redditt.
@@kristenmerrill-nl2dhwtf ! Really! This is redicilous. How come a pchychologist to be part of you tube Crime Channels 🤔. No good.
You definitely are the most professional coverage on this trial, I no longer bother with others who just present innuendo and fake outrage.
He did one better than that. He did not make any true confessions. All confessions came with the caveat of " I Think", " I said", etc. None were truly declarative or conclusive.
Wrong..not “all” many of them were definitively stated ..”I did it..I k!lled them..” etc.. spreading false information benefits no one
@@OpalineAndTheBeanI believe one confession to wife after he confessed and she was telling him he didn't or don't say that he said, No I killed Libby & Abby.
This lady is so much better than the previous. No interrupting, no over talk and very respectful listening.
The other lady reminded me of “”the onion- autistic reporter””
Prettier too 😄
Thank u for reporting on TH-cam can’t believe they haven’t got cameras I was gutted because we all wanted to support the families
But one thing that he said, and that was he referenced the White Van when that piece of evidence wasn’t public news….he made it known that he panicked when he saw the van.
Did the detectives mention the white van during interrogation? Was he asked "Did you see the white van? Is that why you ran?" Some cops do these kinds of things.
From what I have heard, he didn't say "white" in his statement - he only said a van scared him.
Stop with the white van bs. Everyone knew about it on podcasts reddit and other platforms. More interesting was BW has a brother?
37:40?
@downtonviewer no the detective didn't have that information until August of 2024.
Brad Webber walks funny. And he doesn't want to be filmed.....
Looks like Bridge Guy as much or more than Allen
That walk from brad weber
....!!!! Miss Emily on show .
He's just a man that was at the wrong place at the wrong time
Richard Allen was calm and cool in his confessions not having any meltdowns… almost ALL people WHO MURDER have some sort of mental illness or everyone would be doing it !! Smh!! The van sealed the deal … he had details that only the murderer would know . In my opinion he’s guilty … yes he was held too long in seg but that does not mean he still did not murder them !!
Justice for Abby and Libby!! 🩵💜
The van was known about 2 years ago.
@ I know
What a railroad job the state has done
Killing two little girls could make you go crazy also. He's guilty.
Facts
maybe he was faking to save his own life, they have the death penalty there. extreme behavior is sus. He already admitted he was there on the bridge at the time of the murders. He had the same gun as the ejected shell, he lost the only phone that he was supposedly he was carrying at the time of the crime, his car was there at the scene. He admitted to the ranger that took his original statement that he was wearing the same kind of clothes that BG in the photo was wearing. He doesn't have an alibi for the time of the murders.
Maybe he's both guilty and crazy double trouble
The sweater is pink, not orange