Exactly what im looking for. Thank you. Just state the information in a way that informs those that are inquiring. Hope these reports stay clean, clear and precise just like this one. Great work and THANK YOU!🦋🦋🙏🏼🙏🏼
The legal expert (a defense attorney) is providing a good legal education to a small part of a trial. I hope she continues to be a commentator. The two reporters who were onsite at the trial were also great at letting us know what Day 1 of the trial was like. I just found this channel, and will continue to watch these daily summaries because what I found here is so good.
It's the law even though federal trials aren't televised they are required to allow spectators to maintain transparency . It RA is convicted he will get a new trial on appeal because of Judge Gull's God complex and hatred towards R.A defense attorneys.
🤔Why is this case such a SeCrEt?...srsly? People are murdered evey day and court cases are streamed...Something dosent sit right with me in this case...Too secret🤫🤫
Thank you Bob and Emily for your factual reporting and all the hard work that's being put into this. This is exactly what I was looking for, the fact that not even audio is allowed to the public just makes it even more sus, we need great reporters such as yourself so that we may know the truth and to raise awareness about this case.
@@michelewallace3628 I don’t think so because the courts are not there to entertain us., they are there for justice. Justice is a process and to bring cameras in there would impact that process. I personally wouldn’t see a problem with having cameras in there and showing us the trial after the verdict, but I totally disagree. A camera should be showing us the action as it happens before the verdict is ever reached or before the jury goes to make a decision.
Whythe male journalist is so biased? You sounded like as if you were going to cry for Richard Allen. Do you think the prosecution didn’t know the hair didn’t belong to Allen? The defense can play whatever cause they have but the mountain evidence is valuable. He is the killer.!
These girls should be women right now. It’s so senseless that they aren’t alive. This case particularly bothers me bc they died so needlessly. It doesn’t make sense.
What is with people a comments like this? Yeah, they would be older just like everyone else would be. They died needlessly just like anyone else who has been murdered yet THIS is the particular case that bothers you? So you don't care about others who were murdered needlessly?
@@AK-pq7wb I totally agree. It’s such a shame and just so hard to understand…./we are left imagining what those girls must’ve went through and how their parents will for the rest of their lives. If we look for understanding, we will never be satisfied because even if the person comes forward and says exactly why he did it, it will not make sense to anyone except his own twisted soul
@@nemonucliosis to some degree, you have a point, but I think what the person means is that there is no way these girls challenged a person, offended the person, it was not a crime of passion, it was not road rage, it was not vengeance….. it was simply a blood thirsty human and abnormally in all of life where an animal kills not for food, or not for protection, not in defense, their own or defense of their territory, just simply for the enjoyment of killing
He was there, wore the same clothes, his home weapon matches with the ejected round found at the crime scene AND admitted to the crime multiple times to multiple people and gave information ONLY THE KILLER WOULD KNOW the rest is just noise.
And also don’t forget! Someone saw the killer and the girls. She got bad vibes from him and decided to just go back to her car and leave. A group of girls saw a man matching the description said “hi” and he gave them a scow. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were called as witnesses, this could make or break the case.
Most of those facts about the case have been known for a long time. Its strange, nowadays it seems there are large amounts of people that somehow want to believe many of these sickos are innocent.
Facts only the killer would know? You are privy to this how, exactly? Right. Let the objectivity reign supreme. This was a shotty investigation. Soooo much neglected. But you wouldn’t appreciate that level of due diligence cuz, ya know, that’s just “noise”. Yikes, keep this guy off a jury 🤞
If they were not on the trail at the same time as him then how did the girls take a video of him walking towards them on the bridge plus capturing his voice saying down the hill??? The bridge guy is clearly RA same nose and everything if you zoom into the pictures and look closely you can see clearly its him which places him there on the trail with them at the exact aane time the video picture doesn't lie!
He was only "under duress" due to his own actions - never, in my lowest moment in life, would I EVER say I killed someone if I didn't - and I think that's a fundamental human behaviour that 99% of us share.
Nonsense, 20 percent of murders are proven wrongful and confessions adjoin an overwhelming majority of those. God help you or your loved ones from ever being wrongfully accused. You are not as strong under duress as you believe, I promise you.
@@nemonucliosisyeah, you the type. Want someone, anyone to pay, then have the audacity to denounce the omnipotent one. Sounds about right. Let logic lead, not emotions-isn’t that the leg atheists hang their hat on? Free will exists. The free will that gives you the ignorance to proclaim such a defiance is that same which compels evil men to do evil deeds. It is the same that drives confirmation bias and shotty investigations. Don’t imbibe naysaying dogma to explain one evil act or another. Just be on the right side, all one can do. None of that means I am ok with tragedy, I just know I would rather focus my energy in fighting it and not God (denial of something is in turn belief in that something). We as a society could do ALOT more to protect this from happening to young victims. But I will save expounding on all that from this feed.
I know, I find it bizarre there are so many people adamant he's innocent? I have read/watched a lot about this case, the pic def looks like RA, as well as a bullet (although unspent near the bodies), he admitted he was on the trail at the same time as the girls. I'm not saying I'm 100% sure, but it's surprising that people believe that in such a publicised crime prosecutors etc would take it this far on circumstantial evidence. They have something we don't know I think.
A blurry photo aint crap, you need hardcore evidence, and sadly they do not, nothing match's him, not dna, Yea a bullet found nearby. But not the same caliber, that killed the girls, so not his gun, it just doesn't make sense
RA is praying for himself and his family and how it has impacted his marriage!!! How about how it impacted the victims families and friends and the impact on the whole damn country? He makes me physically ill. He definitely committed this diabolical crime without a doubt! Please keep him behind those bars and treat him like the animal that he is!
It does worry me that it took seven years to bring this case to trial. Small towns with these kinds of horrendous crimes take time. Especially when they don't have the resources right away. Thank you for covering this case. May Abbey and Libby get the justice they deserve, along with their families. ⚖️
@@pauline_raabe do you think this is exclusive to small towns? I think you better check, because murder trials like this I’ve been known to take a long time even in our largest cities.
@@usakiwi1986 too much secrecy? How many people do you think go to prison under this cloud you’re calling secrecy? How many of the people sitting on death row and in prison for life had trials broadcasted by national media agencies?….
They should have gotten Richard Allen to walk along the bridge, film it and then compare it to the footage on the girl's phone. No good now since he's lost all the weight. I am still not convinced he was involved, and I will absolutely never support suspected child killers! Something is very off about this case. I think it was botched.
Lord I think you folks who say you’re not convinced it’s him are strange like it looks like the guy walking on the bridge he confessed and he played mental health the lying psycho
Witnesses placed him at the scene of the crime; but so did Richard Allen himself. He admitted to being on that trail and offered that to investigators mere days after the murders. So, it sounds like the only thing prosecutors have as to why they arrested Allen is their claim that "a spent bullet matches his gun." Again, remember, the "confessions" occurred long after he was arrested and had been incarcerated. So, those confessions are absolutely irrelevant as to the evidence law enforcement had PRIOR to his arrest and had nothing to do with why they chose to arrest him for these murders. I hope that the prosecutors have more than simply a bullet. However, if they do, you would think that they would have brought that up in their opening statement. Right? They didn't. Idk.
@@sethstine4698 well you can correct me because I haven’t been following this trial but you make it sound like they don’t have much so tell me where I’m wrong Don’t they have pictures of a guy that resembles this man that was on the phone of the girls ? Don’t they have a similar bullet between the scene and the suspect ? Don’t they have eyewitnesses that said he was on the trail ? Don’t they have an initial statement from him prior to the confession where he put himself on the trail as well ? Based on the sexual content of the crimes and how bodies removed, doesn’t that indicate it was a male and the suspect is also a male ? Isn’t there other suspicious behavior by him such as the changing of his looks and conversations with his wife? I would also imagine that there is evidence by the prosecution that hasn’t been released to the public
@francostacy7675 nothing you cite proves that he is the murderer. Resembling bridge guy is not a crime. Changing one's behavior or looks is not a crime. Being on that trail or spotted on that trail by eyewitness does not prove he is guilty of these murders. And yes, he voluntarily went to law enforcement and said he was on the bridge that day. That doesn't make him guilty. They found a 40 caliber unspent bullet in the woods. They are going to try to argue that it came from his gun. But I still don't know if they can 100% prove it came from the exact gun that he owns.
Me too. If he IS guilty they’re risking a mistrial. If he is innocent a man’s life is pretty much over because know no one will be like “oopsies sorry” and the killer is still out there free to hunt.
@@francostacy7675 are you kidding? Solitary confinement, psychotropic drugs and being interviewed while under them, he being treated as if he were guilty from the get and that sets anyone up for failure.
@@juniorjohnson5961but defense claims they were killed and brought back later . No way any killer goes back to put dead bodies in that spot they were found
The leading theory for now that Abby was killed where she fell due to blood pooling and whatever evidence they haven’t released yet. Libby on the other hand is assumed to have been killed closer to the river and dragged back to where Abby lay. People assume they were posed but if you drag someone by their arm and just drop it, it would look posed too. I feel for these girls. I hope that they gave the killer hell, at least in the last few moments, imagining how scared and lonely they felt is gut wrenching.
I think the judge did the correct thing although incorrectly. She’s trying to mitigate how many people are damaged emotionally by this case and the girls dignity needs to be spared at all costs. This cannot be an easy case to be part of on any side, to be faced by the monstrosity humanity is capable of, and possibly being in the same room as them is enough to haunt anyone.
Im sorry you guys. I do not think this was their first crime. Double murder from strangers is so rare. He had to known what to do and how to keep them fighting for each other
@@kelleewolfe2834 tomato tamahtoe, we really doing this? You missed the forest for the trees there ma’am. Go back and capture the point. But touche, the trails are part of “Delphi Historic Society”, NOT a national park. So go ahead and throw the baby out with the bathwater 🤔 Ps I got more analogies if you like 👍
@@jordanscherer7661 it was on a wooded trail during cold-weather, you think that’s a busy place at that time of the day, that time of the week and that time of the year
@@rosemary6907 to protect the integrity of the courtroom and the process of justice… Cameras in the court room are from private companies, wanting to make money off of the ratings . The victims are minors and why if this guy is found innocent, then they have exposed the details of the murder and that would take away from ever finding who the killer was… If you remember the OJ trial, we saw how public opinion can change the outcome of a trial .
cameras SHOULD be allowed in ALL COURT ROOMS in this day and age !!! especially for such a high profile highly scrutinized case !! the JUDGE should DEMAND IT !! but what's even worse here is NOT providing a closed circuit option for LOCALS to watch !! absolute disgracia !!!!! the community deserves better as do the victims !!!
No the documents and pleadings are public record. The courtroom is accessible. This is what is guaranteed. It is not a requirement to allow the medias cameras in the courtroom. You want information they are providing that. You’re upset because they cannot sensationalize and turn their murder into entertainment. The family deserve that respect.
@@dakenny1282 Trials are public events and viewing them is a public right. The age of the victims has no impact on this public right. What this Judge and the State is doing to make it virtually impossible to view proceeding is wrong and would not be acceptable in most other States. I feel for the community and the victims families but there is a public right to view this trial and this is not happening absent coverage from WTHR and others.
Her name is Katie Jackson-Lindsey and she's the legal expert for 13News. She'll be joining WTHR's coverage of the Delphi trial regularly. Keep watching on WTHR+, Channel 13 or on this channel for more.
Actually confessions are tossed depending on the mental state of the person. Inebriated, drugs, etc... He was/is? on a strong anti psychotic. A lot of the weird confessions he made were AFTER the legit sounding ones and he didn’t start acting around with his bodily fluids until his confession to his wife got leaked.
@@dgatsf who do you think would challenge it? Do you think the parents of the two girls want it broadcasted? Do you think a suspicious middle-age white guy walking alone in the same area wants it broadcasted? …. Exactly who do you think would challenge this that has any irons in the fire.
For those in a hurry, I didn't have 33 minutes to watch - I read the transcripts in 5 min. My analysis, there is no note worthy information to be found. I look for news not commentator opinions
Exactly. And confident people don't talk more than they need. This woman doesn't seem to know about their Odin theory and all the motions they filed prior to the trial.
Wasn't it quite windy, which was said is standard for February? I thought they said that leaves that had been there the evening before had blown away, revealing the bodies and tracks so the search team could see them from the creek side.
Dude.....Im in like Flin! Great job, guys, and we shall see if he is he is guilty or not real soon. Imo, a good defense team could get him off. Im a bit worried that the prosecutions case is weak.
@@jordanscherer7661 …. Based on White? Where are you getting your INFO? Have you been in the courtroom or have you reviewed the case files and all the evidence? You only know what you’ve been fed and the rumors that you believe and then your imagination
Omg the way my eyes are gonna get stuck in the back of my head one of these days when I hear “It was a small town where nobody felt like they needed to lock their doors” Because bad guys are allergic to small towns or something 🙄ffs
The judge seems so biased against Allen. No Odinism, no cameras, bringing in jurors instead of moving the trial. Why not allow Odinism? Is she one? He should be allowed to use any defense he wants.
@@atlantisnance5944 Doesn’t matter if he is or not, he’s innocent until proven guilty. But his due process is being violated and he’s not allowed to put up his defense the way he wants. It’s up to the jury to decide, but it’s only prosecution evidence they get to hear. That’s against his constitutional rights.
why no cameras in court room? Its so unfair that the public cant watch this trial live. There r very few that a judge doesnt allow cameras and this judge is not following the law
Nothing but possitive comments. Something about this entire case has raised my spidey sense. And I am a resident of Indiana and close to Delphi. I am far from convinced that this guy is the right person. God bless these girls and their families.
@@marygoodwin858 are you that worried about all of the people in prison that went to a trial without audio and video…. Or just the juicy ones where you want to hear all the details.
@francostacy7675 I have someone in the court room taking notes so no big deal. I am talking about transparency for the public . Please stop with the snarky remarks directed at me.
Was the bullet fired from his gun or could have been a old shell from times before he had been out there? Since it was found between the girls. Where they even shot?
I'm sorry this comment will probably receive a lot of criticism. I honestly feel cameras should not be in the courtroom. Too often it creates a carnival atmosphere that does not allow justice to be served for the victims or the charged defendant.
I have watched several high profile cases televised and not one of them was any more than a stationary camera, audio and video of the court room. Its not a television production where camera men are walking around capturing different angles and all of that. Any kind of carnival atmosphere comes from social media where people states their feelings just like you have on here.
In Australia we are not allowed cameras in the court. Room and I’m glad they don’t I was a juror in a murder trial for four months and it’s the worst thing I think I’ve ever been through it was just terrible
@lisatodd8420. I have watched a number of cases online. The judge is in charge of his/her courtroom. No judge should allow a carnival-like atmosphere in court. The judge can throw out any person who causes a disruption.
Does CVS give all patrons their pictures for free if those pictures are for their loved ones' funeral, or did Richard Allen just decide to do that on his own for these family's ?
RA had no prior knowledge that those girls would be there, he is a family man who doesn't even have a police record. If they can find a definite motive or prior connection, I won't question his guilt. However, the niggling question is: which unseasoned murderer of smaller stature would, on the spur of the moment, take 2 young, strong teenage girls hostage not knowing whether they have family or friends in close proximity? And for what reason? If they were sexually assaulted, where is the direct DNA evidence? Why did the judge exclude any mention of Odinism - which is widely practiced in the area by groups such as the Vinlanders including by some members of the prison staff - possibly even the police? Why did one of the first investigators resign unless there was a threat of retribution by Odinists/Vinlanders? Was this a drug related killing against perhaps, family members involved in drugs? These happen all the time now in the US. When exactly was that "Down the hill" video taken or was it manufactured beforehand as false evidence and placed on Libby's phone to befuddle the case? Somebody lured those kids to that bridge on that day at that time. They were abducted by someone who knew they would be there. It was planned. Question is: who all knew A & L would be at the bridge at exactly that time? There is no doubt that the girls were abducted and killed elsewhere by others, but why? They were more than likely placed there and RA was framed by people who have the knowledge and means to do so. The bullet was only found AFTER RA himself told police he was on the bridge that day. Furthermore police interviews with key people of interest were lost. Why did the suspect sketches vary? First it was a young guy, then suddenly it was an older man. How can a fair trial take place with only partial evidence available? How high and how deep does this cult go within the system? These are questions that must be answered before convicting the state's suspect who was not even a suspect until long after. Something stinks higher than the Monon Bridge in this case. It's either drug, gang or cult related. Will we ever know the truth? Why has it taken this long unless someone in the system is covering for someone else.
@@MollieMcCordthat’s NOT how that works. The bullet also matched another gun from one of the land owners but we’re ignoring that. Why? Because it’s not real science. Unless they have a finger print on that bullet, fiber, dna, or actual serialized lot numbers that match HIS stock. It’s not real evidence.
Judge C.Gull has made every effort to assist the Prosecution in this case denying almost every one of the Defence's motions and denying the public coverage of the trial.
The man in the photo was a mile away, THEY ADMIT THE PHOTO WAS ENHANCED. THIS GUYS BEEN FRAMED IM TELLING YOU MORE THAN ONE PERSON COMMITTED THOS CRIME.
Libbey's phone was probably in a pocket of her clothing and when Abby was dressing herself in Libby's clothes the phone feĺl out of the pocket and Abby was able hide the phone under body without RA seeing her do it. He probably was looking for the phone but was interrupted by whatever and left the area quickly without the phone.
Or it’s bc they are preparing to show the video with a female character involved outside of the girls. I strongly believe Richard Allen is innocent. Have said it since day one of his arrest. The man who owned the property where the girls were found, died in 2021 from Covid. He was an abusive partner, had a false alibi that he had his cousin lie (later admitted it was a lie to police) during the time the girls were at the bridge, prior to known missing - this is a coverup to a poor investigation and delayed justice. Richard Allen’s life is RUINED due to these horrific decisions and lack of action from law enforcement.
I think they were trying to figure out which girl was recording. It was Libby’s phone but found under Abby and they could both unlock it because they were best friends.
The lady journalist aid "right" 857 times in one video. She is extremely hard to watch, very annoying. She interrupts, and fights to be the "star" of the show.
27:15 To me it tells the exact opposite. 30:00 This person 'thinks' too much but doesn't a lot about this case. This "bombshell revelation" was already mentioned in the Franks motions and doesn't hold water due to the witness statements, including Richard Allen's.
Exactly what im looking for. Thank you. Just state the information in a way that informs those that are inquiring. Hope these reports stay clean, clear and precise just like this one. Great work and THANK YOU!🦋🦋🙏🏼🙏🏼
Same. Just clear, factual, and to the point without sensationalism. Perfect.
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Came here to say the same thing. 😊
Agreed! if looking for full in length details, in court details!.. Lawyer Lee on YT is reporting nightly! 👍
Fore sure, hi from scotland.
Same here.
The legal expert (a defense attorney) is providing a good legal education to a small part of a trial. I hope she continues to be a commentator. The two reporters who were onsite at the trial were also great at letting us know what Day 1 of the trial was like. I just found this channel, and will continue to watch these daily summaries because what I found here is so good.
Too bad there isn't a legal expert (prosecutor) who provides good legal education as well. Otherwise the "legal education" is one sided.
She actually use to be a prosecutor Katie is one of the best
Katie use to be a prosecutor as well she’s amazing
@@atlantisnance5944cool that she knows both sides
So glad they did allow some news people into the courtroom. Love your reporting on this trial!!
It's the law even though federal trials aren't televised they are required to allow spectators to maintain transparency . It RA is convicted he will get a new trial on appeal because of Judge Gull's God complex and hatred towards R.A defense attorneys.
I’ve followed this case from Australia, from day 1. Thank you for your coverage
🤔Why is this case such a SeCrEt?...srsly? People are murdered evey day and court cases are streamed...Something dosent sit right with me in this case...Too secret🤫🤫
Same from scotland.
Hi I am from Australia and I’ve been following this case as well 🇦🇺
It really is nice that people from all over the world care about the case. I'm sure the support is nice for the families.
Thank you for an excellent job covering this very sad case.
Thank you all, this was ideal coverage for me
Thank you Bob and Emily for your factual reporting and all the hard work that's being put into this. This is exactly what I was looking for, the fact that not even audio is allowed to the public just makes it even more sus, we need great reporters such as yourself so that we may know the truth and to raise awareness about this case.
Thank you for such a good summary of what was said (and what we can't hear or see)!
Best recap of the trial I’ve seen on YT
That old train track bridge is terrifying itself.
Have you seen recent pictures where they reconstructed most it?
@@jemsmom97it's only a memorial now, the unfinished part is on private property & will not be finished.
Actually the area is a great scenery. It's not terrifying. People in social media with conspiracy theories make it terrifying.
63 ft up in the air. Scary enough for me.
I would never have allowed my children to go anywhere near that bridge
Excellent reporting!
I think cameras should be in every court room
@@michelewallace3628 I don’t think so because the courts are not there to entertain us., they are there for justice. Justice is a process and to bring cameras in there would impact that process. I personally wouldn’t see a problem with having cameras in there and showing us the trial after the verdict, but I totally disagree. A camera should be showing us the action as it happens before the verdict is ever reached or before the jury goes to make a decision.
Excellent coverage. Keep up the great work
Excellent coverage, thank you
Whythe male journalist is so biased? You sounded like as if you were going to cry for Richard Allen. Do you think the prosecution didn’t know the hair didn’t belong to Allen? The defense can play whatever cause they have but the mountain evidence is valuable. He is the killer.!
Great reporting, WTHR. 👍
Thank you for this. Great job breaking things down so we can understand.
Very good review. Thank you.
These girls should be women right now. It’s so senseless that they aren’t alive. This case particularly bothers me bc they died so needlessly. It doesn’t make sense.
What is with people a comments like this? Yeah, they would be older just like everyone else would be. They died needlessly just like anyone else who has been murdered yet THIS is the particular case that bothers you? So you don't care about others who were murdered needlessly?
@@AK-pq7wb I totally agree. It’s such a shame and just so hard to understand…./we are left imagining what those girls must’ve went through and how their parents will for the rest of their lives.
If we look for understanding, we will never be satisfied because even if the person comes forward and says exactly why he did it, it will not make sense to anyone except his own twisted soul
@@nemonucliosis to some degree, you have a point, but I think what the person means is that there is no way these girls challenged a person, offended the person, it was not a crime of passion, it was not road rage, it was not vengeance….. it was simply a blood thirsty human and abnormally in all of life where an animal kills not for food, or not for protection, not in defense, their own or defense of their territory, just simply for the enjoyment of killing
Thank you for your subtitles. They help me a lot! ❤
Great reporting!
I’ll be following daily thank you
I would NEVER EVER let my kids, let alone girls, to venture into a place like this.
Following from New Zealand from day 1 and waiting for justice ❤
Really great reporting. This is the only channel I’m watching for this coverage. Very concise and no sensationalism.
He was there, wore the same clothes, his home weapon matches with the ejected round found at the crime scene AND admitted to the crime multiple times to multiple people and gave information ONLY THE KILLER WOULD KNOW the rest is just noise.
Facts🎉
And also don’t forget! Someone saw the killer and the girls. She got bad vibes from him and decided to just go back to her car and leave. A group of girls saw a man matching the description said “hi” and he gave them a scow. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were called as witnesses, this could make or break the case.
Not only all that but now it’s been confirmed he interfered with the girls they have his DNA.
Most of those facts about the case have been known for a long time. Its strange, nowadays it seems there are large amounts of people that somehow want to believe many of these sickos are innocent.
Facts only the killer would know? You are privy to this how, exactly? Right.
Let the objectivity reign supreme. This was a shotty investigation. Soooo much neglected. But you wouldn’t appreciate that level of due diligence cuz, ya know, that’s just “noise”. Yikes, keep this guy off a jury 🤞
Thank you 13 😊 great explanation of what’s happening!
I pray justice will be served for these beautiful lives who didn't deserve the evil done to them.
Wow it's been 7 years...
I heard 8
And the sheriff picked a rando mentally I’ll guy to get re-elected
@@alancoker1459 8 years in Feb 2025
If they were not on the trail at the same time as him then how did the girls take a video of him walking towards them on the bridge plus capturing his voice saying down the hill??? The bridge guy is clearly RA same nose and everything if you zoom into the pictures and look closely you can see clearly its him which places him there on the trail with them at the exact aane time the video picture doesn't lie!
You can not see facial features when you zoom in and ive never heard RA’s voice. Have you?
He's said he was there.
how do u know "its him" in video or recording?? .. theres NO 💯 proof of that & Not one witness fingered him.. so be careful accusing!
@@juniorjohnson5961😂 many were there, and many in same sort of attire...
@@akaRadar Just look at the picture omfg better yet zoom into the picture it's the guy!
He was only "under duress" due to his own actions - never, in my lowest moment in life, would I EVER say I killed someone if I didn't - and I think that's a fundamental human behaviour that 99% of us share.
🎉truth
Nonsense, 20 percent of murders are proven wrongful and confessions adjoin an overwhelming majority of those. God help you or your loved ones from ever being wrongfully accused. You are not as strong under duress as you believe, I promise you.
@@jordanscherer7661 God didn't help abby and libby. So keep someone who doesn't exist out of the conversation.
Well they're going to hear the voice, aren't they? Will there be gasps from the gallery?
@@nemonucliosisyeah, you the type. Want someone, anyone to pay, then have the audacity to denounce the omnipotent one. Sounds about right.
Let logic lead, not emotions-isn’t that the leg atheists hang their hat on? Free will exists. The free will that gives you the ignorance to proclaim such a defiance is that same which compels evil men to do evil deeds. It is the same that drives confirmation bias and shotty investigations. Don’t imbibe naysaying dogma to explain one evil act or another. Just be on the right side, all one can do. None of that means I am ok with tragedy, I just know I would rather focus my energy in fighting it and not God (denial of something is in turn belief in that something).
We as a society could do ALOT more to protect this from happening to young victims. But I will save expounding on all that from this feed.
How anyone can look at the picture Libby took and not realize it is Richard Allen is beyond me
I know, I find it bizarre there are so many people adamant he's innocent? I have read/watched a lot about this case, the pic def looks like RA, as well as a bullet (although unspent near the bodies), he admitted he was on the trail at the same time as the girls. I'm not saying I'm 100% sure, but it's surprising that people believe that in such a publicised crime prosecutors etc would take it this far on circumstantial evidence. They have something we don't know I think.
Thank you!!!
A blurry photo aint crap, you need hardcore evidence, and sadly they do not, nothing match's him, not dna,
Yea a bullet found nearby. But not the same caliber, that killed the girls, so not his gun, it just doesn't make sense
I agree!
RA is praying for himself and his family and how it has impacted his marriage!!! How about how it impacted the victims families and friends and the impact on the whole damn country? He makes me physically ill. He definitely committed this diabolical crime without a doubt! Please keep him behind those bars and treat him like the animal that he is!
i also think cameras should of been in there too.
It does worry me that it took seven years to bring this case to trial. Small towns with these kinds of horrendous crimes take time. Especially when they don't have the resources right away. Thank you for covering this case. May Abbey and Libby get the justice they deserve, along with their families. ⚖️
@@pauline_raabe do you think this is exclusive to small towns? I think you better check, because murder trials like this I’ve been known to take a long time even in our largest cities.
Why did it take so long?
Bless the Families. I have the most respect for the judge, not televising the trial. Heartbreaking
IMO this case is so lopsided. Too much secrecy and still too many questions.
@@usakiwi1986 too much secrecy? How many people do you think go to prison under this cloud you’re calling secrecy? How many of the people sitting on death row and in prison for life had trials broadcasted by national media agencies?….
They should have gotten Richard Allen to walk along the bridge, film it and then compare it to the footage on the girl's phone. No good now since he's lost all the weight. I am still not convinced he was involved, and I will absolutely never support suspected child killers! Something is very off about this case. I think it was botched.
Lord I think you folks who say you’re not convinced it’s him are strange like it looks like the guy walking on the bridge he confessed and he played mental health the lying psycho
Witnesses placed him at the scene of the crime; but so did Richard Allen himself. He admitted to being on that trail and offered that to investigators mere days after the murders. So, it sounds like the only thing prosecutors have as to why they arrested Allen is their claim that "a spent bullet matches his gun." Again, remember, the "confessions" occurred long after he was arrested and had been incarcerated. So, those confessions are absolutely irrelevant as to the evidence law enforcement had PRIOR to his arrest and had nothing to do with why they chose to arrest him for these murders. I hope that the prosecutors have more than simply a bullet. However, if they do, you would think that they would have brought that up in their opening statement. Right? They didn't. Idk.
There’s SO much we don’t know yet the case has been sealed they have their guy
They have absolutely nothing. Zero. Maybe, they should have arrested ELVIS!
@@sethstine4698 well you can correct me because I haven’t been following this trial but you make it sound like they don’t have much so tell me where I’m wrong
Don’t they have pictures of a guy that resembles this man that was on the phone of the girls ?
Don’t they have a similar bullet between the scene and the suspect ?
Don’t they have eyewitnesses that said he was on the trail ?
Don’t they have an initial statement from him prior to the confession where he put himself on the trail as well ?
Based on the sexual content of the crimes and how bodies removed, doesn’t that indicate it was a male and the suspect is also a male ?
Isn’t there other suspicious behavior by him such as the changing of his looks and conversations with his wife?
I would also imagine that there is evidence by the prosecution that hasn’t been released to the public
@francostacy7675 nothing you cite proves that he is the murderer. Resembling bridge guy is not a crime. Changing one's behavior or looks is not a crime. Being on that trail or spotted on that trail by eyewitness does not prove he is guilty of these murders. And yes, he voluntarily went to law enforcement and said he was on the bridge that day. That doesn't make him guilty. They found a 40 caliber unspent bullet in the woods. They are going to try to argue that it came from his gun. But I still don't know if they can 100% prove it came from the exact gun that he owns.
Excellent!!!
I’m so thankful for this coverage. I am disheartened that RA is not being treated fairly.
Me too. If he IS guilty they’re risking a mistrial. If he is innocent a man’s life is pretty much over because know no one will be like “oopsies sorry” and the killer is still out there free to hunt.
Sigh he’s not innocent AT ALL
@@dhernandez4386 …. What is your evidence that he has been mistreated?
@@francostacy7675 are you kidding? Solitary confinement, psychotropic drugs and being interviewed while under them, he being treated as if he were guilty from the get and that sets anyone up for failure.
My Sunday has been even spent watching you tube lol
have they ever said a motive as to why they were killed? Were they assaulted or just killed for whatever reason?
Ritualistic killing..
I don't believe they were raped but that was the intent.
SA - sexually motivated
Sick!
Not yet.
If the murders were staged, where were they killed?
It's been said by Law enforcement that they were killed where they were found .
@@juniorjohnson5961but defense claims they were killed and brought back later .
No way any killer goes back to put dead bodies in that spot they were found
@@techdeathhippie6319 That's Ridiculous 👍
The leading theory for now that Abby was killed where she fell due to blood pooling and whatever evidence they haven’t released yet. Libby on the other hand is assumed to have been killed closer to the river and dragged back to where Abby lay. People assume they were posed but if you drag someone by their arm and just drop it, it would look posed too. I feel for these girls. I hope that they gave the killer hell, at least in the last few moments, imagining how scared and lonely they felt is gut wrenching.
@@dhernandez4386 no staging at all
I think the judge did the correct thing although incorrectly. She’s trying to mitigate how many people are damaged emotionally by this case and the girls dignity needs to be spared at all costs. This cannot be an easy case to be part of on any side, to be faced by the monstrosity humanity is capable of, and possibly being in the same room as them is enough to haunt anyone.
Im sorry you guys. I do not think this was their first crime. Double murder from strangers is so rare. He had to known what to do and how to keep them fighting for each other
It’s almost as if it’s just too perfect for one man to conduct in the middle of daylight amidst a bustling busy national park. Hmmm 🤔
That's not a national park?!
Lol!!? Have you not followed this at all?
@@kelleewolfe2834 tomato tamahtoe, we really doing this? You missed the forest for the trees there ma’am. Go back and capture the point. But touche, the trails are part of “Delphi Historic Society”, NOT a national park. So go ahead and throw the baby out with the bathwater 🤔
Ps I got more analogies if you like 👍
@@jordanscherer7661 it was on a wooded trail during cold-weather, you think that’s a busy place at that time of the day, that time of the week and that time of the year
this case has more red flags than the soviet union.
@@bearants and exactly what would be those red flags?
@@francostacy7675 sorry i dont write essays in YT comments.
We from Kokomo,In and it's changed things for here, because of what happened there‼️😭🙏🙏
I don’t understand why it’s such a fucking secret wtf
Should be atleast allowed to audio record .
no
@@amandalowery377 …. The integrity of the courtroom and the process of justice is more important than our curiosity and our entertainment.
Does this Judge refuse to have Cameras in her Court Room all the Time? WHY?
@@rosemary6907 to protect the integrity of the courtroom and the process of justice…
Cameras in the court room are from private companies, wanting to make money off of the ratings . The victims are minors and why if this guy is found innocent, then they have exposed the details of the murder and that would take away from ever finding who the killer was…
If you remember the OJ trial, we saw how public opinion can change the outcome of a trial .
cameras SHOULD be allowed in ALL COURT ROOMS in this day and age !!! especially for such a high profile highly scrutinized case !! the JUDGE should DEMAND IT !! but what's even worse here is NOT providing a closed circuit option for LOCALS to watch !! absolute disgracia !!!!! the community deserves better as do the victims !!!
These are minor children
@@dakenny1282Even more of a reason to publicize this trial.
No the documents and pleadings are public record. The courtroom is accessible. This is what is guaranteed. It is not a requirement to allow the medias cameras in the courtroom. You want information they are providing that. You’re upset because they cannot sensationalize and turn their murder into entertainment. The family deserve that respect.
@@dakenny1282 Trials are public events and viewing them is a public right. The age of the victims has no impact on this public right. What this Judge and the State is doing to make it virtually impossible to view proceeding is wrong and would not be acceptable in most other States. I feel for the community and the victims families but there is a public right to view this trial and this is not happening absent coverage from WTHR and others.
@@victoriaanne5987 exactly, thank you
Will,(after this trial is over) the trancripts be open for public view? That will be the only way we know if this is a fair trial.
Is the trial not televised
No, the judge ruled no cameras.
Truth is if cameras were allowed, people would be searching the jurors addresses and it would probably end in a mistrial
All that information is private.
@@MollieMcCord you don't know. Look what happened to the first judge
@@Daily_Survivor i do know. That information is private. Unless a juror says they're a jurors publicly then it's private.
@Daily_Survivor. No matter where the courtroom, jurors are never shown on camera.
@libbyworkman3459 Yet the media got in trouble for filming the jury 😏
Who is that lady at the end in the maroon dress? I love her and her input! I’d like to see her more throughout this trial!😃
Her name is Katie Jackson-Lindsey and she's the legal expert for 13News. She'll be joining WTHR's coverage of the Delphi trial regularly. Keep watching on WTHR+, Channel 13 or on this channel for more.
Katie Jackson she’s amazing she was a prosecutor and now a private defense attorney
If the State uses the "confessions" they have to use ALL of them, not cherry pick the few that most match what they want it to.
Actually confessions are tossed depending on the mental state of the person. Inebriated, drugs, etc... He was/is? on a strong anti psychotic. A lot of the weird confessions he made were AFTER the legit sounding ones and he didn’t start acting around with his bodily fluids until his confession to his wife got leaked.
He was on the medicine until AFTER the confession when he tried to play mental health the confession is in didn’t you hear what the news channel said
Why the media blackout? Security? Arbitrary decision by the court? Can it be challenged?
@@dgatsf who do you think would challenge it? Do you think the parents of the two girls want it broadcasted?
Do you think a suspicious middle-age white guy walking alone in the same area wants it broadcasted? …. Exactly who do you think would challenge this that has any irons in the fire.
For those in a hurry, I didn't have 33 minutes to watch - I read the transcripts in 5 min. My analysis, there is no note worthy information to be found. I look for news not commentator opinions
Don't watch this if you are looking for day 1 of the trial. There's hardly any trial shown at all.
Im horrified what the person did to them. So painful and terrifying😢 nokne around to help them. Sp many mn are sick and perverted
Baloney - Defense attorney's always make promises they can't keep. Seen it many times.
Exactly. And confident people don't talk more than they need. This woman doesn't seem to know about their Odin theory and all the motions they filed prior to the trial.
@@Unicornfarmonstrawberryisland oh am sorry the oden theory support their argument. I am sorry you want innocent man to go to prison ?
Yes!!
@@Aboma2012 The Odin theory doesn't support anything - it's complete nonsense.
@@Unicornfarmonstrawberryislandclearly you haven’t covered these motions. It’s called exculpatory evidence and it flirted with Brady.
Wasn't it quite windy, which was said is standard for February? I thought they said that leaves that had been there the evening before had blown away, revealing the bodies and tracks so the search team could see them from the creek side.
Dude.....Im in like Flin! Great job, guys, and we shall see if he is he is guilty or not real soon. Imo, a good defense team could get him off. Im a bit worried that the prosecutions case is weak.
Astute of you. It is incredibly weak.
@@jordanscherer7661 …. Based on White? Where are you getting your INFO? Have you been in the courtroom or have you reviewed the case files and all the evidence?
You only know what you’ve been fed and the rumors that you believe and then your imagination
Some woman recognized those clothes. Someone knew. Daughter?
The wife knew I think
This guy will never see the like of harm, he brought to the babys.
Yes hello Jackson. Supremec court. I recognize your voice
Huh?
Omg the way my eyes are gonna get stuck in the back of my head one of these days when I hear “It was a small town where nobody felt like they needed to lock their doors” Because bad guys are allergic to small towns or something 🙄ffs
How about some focus on the prosecution's case instead of arguing for the defense already?
The judge seems so biased against Allen. No Odinism, no cameras, bringing in jurors instead of moving the trial. Why not allow Odinism? Is she one? He should be allowed to use any defense he wants.
Sigh you guys are strange to think he’s innocent
@@atlantisnance5944 Doesn’t matter if he is or not, he’s innocent until proven guilty. But his due process is being violated and he’s not allowed to put up his defense the way he wants. It’s up to the jury to decide, but it’s only prosecution evidence they get to hear. That’s against his constitutional rights.
why no cameras in court room? Its so unfair that the public cant watch this trial live. There r very few that a judge doesnt allow cameras and this judge is not following the law
If you've been following, she ABSOLUTELY has done things that are in complete violation!!!! Just wait til this is all over, she'll be applying for EBT
Nothing but possitive comments. Something about this entire case has raised my spidey sense. And I am a resident of Indiana and close to Delphi. I am far from convinced that this guy is the right person. God bless these girls and their families.
I personally believe he is the right guy but will not be convicted.
Not having a camera in the courtroom is ridiculous. Should have 1 camera at least .Audio at least would be more transparent
You’ll have court transcripts 😊
@@marygoodwin858 are you that worried about all of the people in prison that went to a trial without audio and video…. Or just the juicy ones where you want to hear all the details.
@francostacy7675 I have someone in the court room taking notes so no big deal. I am talking about transparency for the public . Please stop with the snarky remarks directed at me.
Since both of the girls were found with their throats slit, I’m wondering why the reporter kept saying that the defendant had a gun.
Well the girls were supposed to say gun on the video that will be played but RA confessed he cut their throats with a box cutter from CVS
@atlantisnance5944 no he didn't!! He said he shot them. Good gawd stop speaking bullsht
Also Logan voice sounds like voice on recording. An he did have record and was physical with his ex so seems to me he was a violent man.
Also his alibi didnt add up
Was the bullet fired from his gun or could have been a old shell from times before he had been out there? Since it was found between the girls. Where they even shot?
It was never fired, it was an unspent bullet, possibly accidentally ejected
He denied tò ever be There. And if he was There as a hunter he would use a different weapon.
Boy is the world going to shit when this trial is over.
No DNA linking him to the crime = innocent. You don't do what happened to those 2 girls and leave no DNA.
There was a family killed no dna they prosecuted the father then found out there were a group of guys who did it who knew everything about the crime.
Well if there’s no DNA then someone DID do what they did and left no DNA.
What day are you scheduled to testify, giving your expert opinions? I’ll make sure to circle the date so I don’t miss your riveting insights.
So.. everyone jailed before we had DNA technology should be considered innocent? 😂
DNA just wasn't found. Law enforcement has bungled this case from the start. I wouldn't expect miracles from them.@@dragonmummy1
I'm sorry this comment will probably receive a lot of criticism. I honestly feel cameras should not be in the courtroom.
Too often it creates a carnival atmosphere that does not allow justice to be served for the victims or the charged defendant.
I agree this is not Netflix 👍
I have watched several high profile cases televised and not one of them was any more than a stationary camera, audio and video of the court room. Its not a television production where camera men are walking around capturing different angles and all of that. Any kind of carnival atmosphere comes from social media where people states their feelings just like you have on here.
In Australia we are not allowed cameras in the court. Room and I’m glad they don’t I was a juror in a murder trial for four months and it’s the worst thing I think I’ve ever been through it was just terrible
@lisatodd8420. I have watched a number of cases online. The judge is in charge of his/her courtroom. No judge should allow a carnival-like atmosphere in court. The judge can throw out any person who causes a disruption.
@@donnamills79. I once served on a jury when the uncle raped the teenage girl and the grandmother sided with her son. It was truly awful.
How did they ultimately die? I thought for some reason it was a nice but now I hear gun.
Does CVS give all patrons their pictures for free if those pictures are for their loved ones' funeral, or did Richard Allen just decide to do that on his own for these family's ?
Ii wear my emotions on my sleeve. I remember. Samantha josephson, a kind and l9ving child. And she loved that doggy,
RA had no prior knowledge that those girls would be there, he is a family man who doesn't even have a police record. If they can find a definite motive or prior connection, I won't question his guilt. However, the niggling question is: which unseasoned murderer of smaller stature would, on the spur of the moment, take 2 young, strong teenage girls hostage not knowing whether they have family or friends in close proximity? And for what reason? If they were sexually assaulted, where is the direct DNA evidence? Why did the judge exclude any mention of Odinism - which is widely practiced in the area by groups such as the Vinlanders including by some members of the prison staff - possibly even the police? Why did one of the first investigators resign unless there was a threat of retribution by Odinists/Vinlanders? Was this a drug related killing against perhaps, family members involved in drugs? These happen all the time now in the US.
When exactly was that "Down the hill" video taken or was it manufactured beforehand as false evidence and placed on Libby's phone to befuddle the case? Somebody lured those kids to that bridge on that day at that time. They were abducted by someone who knew they would be there. It was planned. Question is: who all knew A & L would be at the bridge at exactly that time? There is no doubt that the girls were abducted and killed elsewhere by others, but why? They were more than likely placed there and RA was framed by people who have the knowledge and means to do so. The bullet was only found AFTER RA himself told police he was on the bridge that day.
Furthermore police interviews with key people of interest were lost. Why did the suspect sketches vary? First it was a young guy, then suddenly it was an older man. How can a fair trial take place with only partial evidence available? How high and how deep does this cult go within the system? These are questions that must be answered before convicting the state's suspect who was not even a suspect until long after. Something stinks higher than the Monon Bridge in this case. It's either drug, gang or cult related. Will we ever know the truth? Why has it taken this long unless someone in the system is covering for someone else.
I AGREE!!!! Thank you!!! I couldn’t have said it better 💯
Are you the wife undercover 😂🤦🏽 wtf
💯💯
THIS !! Thank you.
This guy was framed. LOOK INTO THIS PEOPLE WE NEED TO STAND UP FOR ONE ANOTHER AGAINST CORRUPT JUDICIARY.
Such bs “evidence” has kept the guy in jail. Guy should be on home arrest AT WORST. Pathetic law system
Why couldn’t we have cameras in the cour room grrrr
And the bullet could have come out of the police gun but was not checked...why not
Um... it was tested and showed that it was cycled through Richard Allen's gun.
@@MollieMcCord it could have passed through the police gun too but Was not tested..that is what is said
@@rosemarieniesmarkham625 that's not how that works...
@@MollieMcCord ah ok
@@MollieMcCordthat’s NOT how that works. The bullet also matched another gun from one of the land owners but we’re ignoring that. Why? Because it’s not real science. Unless they have a finger print on that bullet, fiber, dna, or actual serialized lot numbers that match HIS stock. It’s not real evidence.
Judge C.Gull has made every effort to assist the Prosecution in this case denying almost every one of the Defence's motions and denying the public coverage of the trial.
Is Lindsay licensed in Ohio?
5:49 That's what they spent their time with in the 21st century🤦♀
So the whole community of parents were victims, along with their girls.
The man in the photo was a mile away, THEY ADMIT THE PHOTO WAS ENHANCED. THIS GUYS BEEN FRAMED IM TELLING YOU MORE THAN ONE PERSON COMMITTED THOS CRIME.
Libbey's phone was probably in a pocket of her clothing and when Abby was dressing herself in Libby's clothes the phone feĺl out of the pocket and Abby was able hide the phone under body without RA seeing her do it. He probably was looking for the phone but was interrupted by whatever and left the area quickly without the phone.
I have a 14 year old Granddaughter who lives with us ,and I rise her , that's she can't do or go some places because of this shit‼️🧐
Maybe the prosecutor asked Abby’s mother what the sound of Abby’s voice sounded like because she’s the one who said “gun” in the video.
Or it’s bc they are preparing to show the video with a female character involved outside of the girls.
I strongly believe Richard Allen is innocent. Have said it since day one of his arrest.
The man who owned the property where the girls were found, died in 2021 from Covid. He was an abusive partner, had a false alibi that he had his cousin lie (later admitted it was a lie to police) during the time the girls were at the bridge, prior to known missing - this is a coverup to a poor investigation and delayed justice.
Richard Allen’s life is RUINED due to these horrific decisions and lack of action from law enforcement.
I think they were trying to figure out which girl was recording. It was Libby’s phone but found under Abby and they could both unlock it because they were best friends.
RON GOLDMAN DID IT,,,,, I TOLD YOU THAT OVER AND OVER. NOW GIVE ME MY 200K REWARD ........ I WANT MY MONEY./
The lady journalist aid "right" 857 times in one video. She is extremely hard to watch, very annoying. She interrupts, and fights to be the "star" of the show.
Not guilty !
Julianne Margiles.
Poor guy should be innocent
Shame on you for defending a child killer.
27:15 To me it tells the exact opposite. 30:00 This person 'thinks' too much but doesn't a lot about this case. This "bombshell revelation" was already mentioned in the Franks motions and doesn't hold water due to the witness statements, including Richard Allen's.